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Speaker 1: Ridiculous Crime is a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Yo, Elizabeth Dutton, Yo, Zaren Burnette.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I've been looking for you all over. I'm glad

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Speaker 3: you're here because I'm tired. My back hurts. So I

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Speaker 3: had a question for you. Can you sit down for

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Speaker 3: a second? All right?

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Speaker 2: Fine?

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Speaker 3: Alright, you see it? You comfortable? Okay? Do you know

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Speaker 3: what's ridiculous? I do? Okay, Well then you go.

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Speaker 2: Okay. So what's ridiculous is? I got a couple aspects

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Speaker 2: of this. It's ridiculous. One, it's ridiculous how much I

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Speaker 2: love to lurk on Reddit?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Two?

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Speaker 2: This ai t a am I the a whole Oh okay,

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Speaker 2: it's a subreddit. It's ridiculous. How much good content there

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Speaker 2: is there? And this particular post is absolutely peak ridiculous. Okay,

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Speaker 2: so I'm going to read it to you. Oh please,

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Speaker 2: My twenty eight year old female So she's twenty eight

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Speaker 2: year old female. Boyfriend who's twenty nine year old male?

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Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, So she's twenty eight, she's a woman, he's a.

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Speaker 2: Boy correct okay of two years, will not stop speaking

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Speaker 2: in a fake Italian American act and keeps making up

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Speaker 2: foreign words. The ambientation, so you're gonna find Oh okay,

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Speaker 2: to preface this, I love my boyfriend and he is

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Speaker 2: super sweet, nice, smart guy that I feel lucky to have,

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Speaker 2: but his behavior lately is freaking me out and makes

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Speaker 2: me worried for the future. Oh yeah, I need to

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Speaker 2: also say this is old. This is not a new

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Speaker 2: post about something that It's ridiculous. It keeps coming into

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Speaker 2: my head all the time, so.

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Speaker 3: You just think about this. This is something that's like

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Speaker 3: an earworm from read.

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Speaker 2: It pops into my head. So to continue, My boyfriend

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Speaker 2: loves movies, especially mob movies.

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Speaker 3: I'm with them.

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Speaker 2: He has all of the Sopranos DVDs at his place

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Speaker 2: and I'm pretty sure he still watches them that way.

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Speaker 2: That's fine, obviously, you can watch and enjoy whatever you want.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she's open like that.

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Speaker 2: But last week he saw the Irishman with some friends

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Speaker 2: and since then he will not stop talking in like

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Speaker 2: a fake stereotypical mobster accent. We were in an uber

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Speaker 2: the other night after going out to dinner, and admittedly

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Speaker 2: the driver was going a little fast, but my boyfriend

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Speaker 2: kept muttering things like who's this guy?

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Speaker 3: Eh?

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Speaker 2: They learn not don over here and shouting ho as

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Speaker 2: we took corners. He would not shut up, and even

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Speaker 2: gave the driver a one star review, saying it was

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Speaker 2: about respect. Everyone has their quirks. I get it, and

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Speaker 2: they can be what makes someone special. At first, it

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Speaker 2: was even kind of cute, funny, but I just can't

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Speaker 2: really understand this shift all of a sudden. It's been

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Speaker 2: a week and he continues to make asides in this voice,

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Speaker 2: and when he gets drunk he speaks and made up

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Speaker 2: Italian like. We were having dessert at my sister's and

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Speaker 2: he came up to me and said, hey, Ma, I

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Speaker 2: got to get home and hit the draupini. I'm the

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Speaker 2: designated driver. I don't drink. So I asked him why

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Speaker 2: response was, you know, like a shower. Draupini is not

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Speaker 2: a word in any language. He also never called me

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Speaker 2: be a permanent feature of his personality?

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Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 2: I know this sounds incredibly stupid compared to some of

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Speaker 2: the other serious issues on here, but I am really

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Speaker 2: just nervous about what this means. About his personality slash

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Speaker 2: mental health. He really is a sweet, loving guy with

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Speaker 2: a wonderful family and we have a lot in common.

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Speaker 2: But just like, I don't even know how to begin

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Speaker 2: be like, why do you keep doing this voice? Can

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Speaker 2: you please stop? We don't live together, so thankfully it's

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Speaker 2: not a constant thing, but like what if it did?

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Speaker 2: What if we did, and what if it was? You

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Speaker 1: Edit.

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Speaker 2: I just want to add that he's not Italian at

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Speaker 2: all either, So I'm also worried people will get offended

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Speaker 2: when we're out or something. So that's ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: That is very ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: Am I the ahole.

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Speaker 3: Post rent free in your head?

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Speaker 2: As they say all the time, I always want to

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Speaker 2: hitting the drapini, you know, so just say it into

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Speaker 3: So could I get away with this? Because this sounds

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Speaker 3: like just do it.

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Speaker 2: Let's see what happens, to see where this goes, huh.

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Speaker 3: I want the update from their girlfriend of like, okay,

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Speaker 3: he stopped doing it after he got beaten up. By

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Speaker 3: a bunch of Italians in Philadelphia. We were there for

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Speaker 3: a gaming.

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Speaker 2: P didn't happen.

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Speaker 3: Oh man, that is great. I know. Well if you

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Speaker 3: got a second, I got something for you.

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Speaker 2: Sure.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Okay. Imagine a frontman for a band. Okay, okay,

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Speaker 3: now the same person though, the same front man. They've

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Speaker 3: never performed live before. Okay.

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Speaker 2: Well you know everyone has to perform.

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Speaker 3: Everyone the first time, right, Yeah. And they've never recorded

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Speaker 3: even a single song before, okay. And all they really

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Speaker 3: have is a dream. They're a front man with a dream,

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Speaker 3: and so they reach for that dream and they decide

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Speaker 3: to build themselves a crime Ledder to the Stars.

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Speaker 2: Oh I love that.

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Speaker 3: This is ridiculous crime a podcast about absurd and outrageous capers,

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Speaker 3: heists and cons. It's Ahlways ninety, motor free and ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: Elizabeth Ar. Okay, this dude's name was Rob and okay, wait, no,

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Speaker 3: first we got to get through Rob. That is a

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Speaker 3: O and then a B and another B. Rob middle

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Speaker 3: name Tall, But wait, that's not just tall like you

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Speaker 3: might imagine. That's a capital T and a lowercase A

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Speaker 3: followed by five capital l'say. Yeah, it's like he knew

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Speaker 3: rest of his life. Oh god, I hadn't last name university.

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Speaker 2: Rob Tall University.

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Speaker 3: I think it's university for like you feel like a

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Speaker 3: mashup where it's like, Okay, your first name is the

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Speaker 3: him up this Rob Tall University. He once launched a

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Speaker 3: it worked. Okay, yeah, well until it did not work.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, that's why we're talking about him today. But God,

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Speaker 3: bless God, bless job blessed is brought up now before

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Speaker 3: we dive into today's dish of criminal deliciousness. Have you

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Speaker 3: ever heard of Sarah Howe?

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Speaker 2: I think so.

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Speaker 3: I Okay, this is not somebody I knew. Sarah Howe.

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Speaker 3: It was a dame, was ahead of her time. She

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Speaker 3: once had her own bank. It was called the Ladies

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Speaker 2: Never heard.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a big deal because it was a

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Speaker 3: bank for unmarried women's huge and that was necessary.

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Speaker 2: I'm imagining this is in the olden times.

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Speaker 3: Eighteen seventy eight.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is when women didn't have any guaranteed property

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Speaker 3: rights right right, or secured financial rights. It's just basically

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Speaker 3: the Jane Austen days but America. So Sarah how she

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Speaker 2: The lady Bank. It just makes me think of when

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Speaker 2: they they gender products, like you know, there'll be like

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, little pink screwed, little pink camera, a little

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Speaker 3: So this this pink Lady Bank, right, she's running for

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Speaker 3: the less fortunate women. There was something else about this bank.

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Speaker 3: neighborhood eight percent. Oh that's eight percent per month. Well,

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Speaker 3: a surprise, surprise, there was no Quaker charity. There were

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Speaker 3: no eight percent returns on the investment. And the heck,

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Speaker 3: there was no bank it was all a scam, and

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. Now it took two years for her scam

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Speaker 3: a story. Sarah how was promptly busted, tried, convicted. She

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Speaker 3: So she went and became a fortune teller, and she

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Speaker 3: compared to the man who would come to be the

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Speaker 3: name associated with these types of crimes. Oh, Charles Ponds, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: do you know anything about his deal? Why we call

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Speaker 3: the Ponzi with it?

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Speaker 2: Right? Yeah, In the.

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Speaker 3: Nineteen twenties, dude was running. He's a Boston based con man.

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Speaker 3: He's he had he'd been telling his investors, right, Oh,

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Speaker 3: double your money right, just give me ninety days, give

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Speaker 3: with a bunch more. And they're like, I don't know

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Speaker 3: what am I investing in? He's like, okay. Turns out

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Speaker 3: if you take international postal stamps, you can buy these

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Speaker 3: and then redeem thement. He came up with this abstract

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Speaker 3: people are like, oh, okay, He's like, just give me

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Speaker 3: a little bit of time now. In seven months time,

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Speaker 3: This dude, like, I'm just blown away how much he

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Speaker 3: did in seven months time without the internet, without like

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Speaker 3: school cars. So this Ponzi scheme that he'd done, this

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Speaker 3: is how it works. Basically, it's a simple one two three.

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Speaker 3: So one Ponzi would promise that he could double his investors' money,

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Speaker 3: so we covered that, and then his claim would in

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Speaker 3: some investors, he takes their money. He then uses this

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Speaker 3: the first round of investors, right, and then word spreads it.

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Speaker 3: The first people got their money back. Then this more

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Speaker 3: people come in with that third round and fourth round,

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Speaker 3: he pays off the second round of investors. By this time,

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Speaker 3: the fifth round is a huge group of people ready

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Speaker 3: have like a float time, right, so to quote my

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Speaker 3: man Louis Anderson from coming to America, and that's when

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Speaker 3: the big bucks start rolling in. So Charles Ponzi's pyramid

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Speaker 3: scheme noted him eight million dollars in seven months, and

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Speaker 3: then in those days, that's in those days that would

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Speaker 2: Light over Paris.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna play some later so you can just

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Speaker 3: get into the lyrics and the music, all of it,

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Speaker 3: less talented Liam Gallagher want to be? Who? You know?

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Speaker 3: We decided to cut a bunch of banks in, divesting

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Speaker 3: Great question, Elizabeth, really is and thank you for asking

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Speaker 3: the answer. A highly focused Ponzi scheme, Elizabeth. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 3: that's why we're talking about my man, Rob Tall University.

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Speaker 3: like eight million dollars please. No, that's but that's actually

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Speaker 3: He slapped down paperwork from the investment firm Charles Schwab,

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Speaker 2: Because he was wearing eyeliner.

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Speaker 3: Well, the paperwork he slapped down stated that the frontman

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Speaker 3: And the account statement also reported that the frontman had

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say, why didn't they want a digital.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well what happens? Yeah exactly, like like we're gonna

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you told me they were, I was

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Speaker 3: Well, as you know, banks prefer the people's start businesses.

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Speaker 3: That make sense. If they were they're gonna dabble in

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Speaker 3: But like rock Star, how do we dabble in that?

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Speaker 3: We don't even know that one? Where do we put

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Speaker 3: but they're still undecided because they're bankers. Right. So he's like, oh,

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Speaker 3: due diligence, right right. One problem, Rob Tall University has

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Speaker 3: And they're like, oh, you're one of those gray so

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Speaker 2: Weren't they concerned as it was called Mike Selazar Studios.

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Speaker 3: to finish construction on a new recording room in the studio.

433
00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:46,000
Speaker 3: And that was what sounded perfectly reasonable to the bank examiners,

434
00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:47,959
Speaker 3: and thus they gave him the three million dollars. So

435
00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:50,960
Speaker 3: they're like, boom, here these are three million dollars loan, sir.

436
00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:54,520
Speaker 3: And now now he is about to start becoming a

437
00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:57,800
Speaker 3: real rockstar because he got rockstock. Cat's right, Let's take

438
00:19:57,800 --> 00:19:59,640
Speaker 3: a little break and then I'll tell you how he's

439
00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:02,000
Speaker 3: going to blow through this money and get himself like

440
00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:25,920
Speaker 3: a rock star into billboards, you know, top charts. What. Yeah,

441
00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:29,320
Speaker 3: all right, So now my man, Rob Tall University is

442
00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:31,920
Speaker 3: a real funded, almost want to be rockstar guy.

443
00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a three millionaire exactly the big time.

444
00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:37,320
Speaker 3: I told you the real big money's gonna come rolling in.

445
00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:39,520
Speaker 3: Now he's got the big bucks. So that first loan

446
00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,159
Speaker 3: application that went well, right, Sure he walked him through

447
00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,240
Speaker 3: the fake studio or actually the real studio. But I'm

448
00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:46,840
Speaker 3: pretending to be his So Rob Tall University, what's he

449
00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:48,639
Speaker 3: gonna do now, He's like, I should do that again.

450
00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,480
Speaker 3: So he goes and does it again, and then again

451
00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,960
Speaker 3: and then again. He went to work scamming banks like

452
00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,800
Speaker 3: he ironically was far better at scamming banks than being

453
00:20:57,800 --> 00:20:59,840
Speaker 3: a rockstard. He should have been a bank scammer. That's

454
00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:00,959
Speaker 3: what he should have turned pro at.

455
00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:01,960
Speaker 2: It sounds like he was.

456
00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:03,680
Speaker 3: I don't know if you can if you get like

457
00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:06,639
Speaker 3: groupies for being a bank scammer, but anyway, if he could,

458
00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:08,359
Speaker 3: you know, I think what it does to jail.

459
00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,800
Speaker 2: He'll have all those gals who like write in the

460
00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:12,359
Speaker 2: oh good point.

461
00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:14,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, we tend to get some journalists to interview him.

462
00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:15,240
Speaker 3: He's good.

463
00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,760
Speaker 2: He's got the rock Star cell Block Rockstar.

464
00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,400
Speaker 3: So Raptail University. He gets the initial three million from Comerica,

465
00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:22,639
Speaker 3: right then he went and scams in additional seven hundred

466
00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:24,800
Speaker 3: and fifty thousand from Bank of America, then a cool

467
00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,359
Speaker 3: half million from Zion's Bank, and lastly there was a

468
00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:30,440
Speaker 3: sizeable sum he peeled two point four million from JP

469
00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:34,920
Speaker 3: Morgan Chase. Wow. Yeah, so that's about seven million in total. Okay,

470
00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,200
Speaker 3: so then he apparently re upped on a couple of

471
00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,080
Speaker 3: those loans. He pulled in a couple more and brings

472
00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:40,520
Speaker 3: it up to eleven million in total.

473
00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:41,240
Speaker 2: Wow.

474
00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,959
Speaker 3: His eventual lawyer Al Jaron would later argue, quote, all

475
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:46,800
Speaker 3: of a sudden, he was trapped in a situation that

476
00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,800
Speaker 3: got out of his control. Yeah, oh yeah, I bet

477
00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:50,440
Speaker 3: it did.

478
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:54,600
Speaker 2: I just like, eleven million dollars with nothing behind it

479
00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:55,439
Speaker 2: is just nuts.

480
00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:57,680
Speaker 3: Oh dude, I like the It's like this just got

481
00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,640
Speaker 3: out of control. What's the internet name? Well, well, well

482
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,920
Speaker 3: it's isn't my old friend the consequences of my actions.

483
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,400
Speaker 3: It's like it's him and out.

484
00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:09,080
Speaker 2: Of control, like at any point he could have Yeah.

485
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:13,160
Speaker 3: Whatever, he's a victim of himself, Elizabeth.

486
00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:14,879
Speaker 2: Look what I did hard for him. It's hard to

487
00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:15,680
Speaker 2: be Rob Tall.

488
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,760
Speaker 3: Why are these banks doing this to me? So before

489
00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:20,960
Speaker 3: the legal reality set ind of what he had done,

490
00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,320
Speaker 3: robbed all University went to work being a rock star.

491
00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:24,919
Speaker 3: And that's what we want to talk about, right, So

492
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,960
Speaker 3: how did he start blowing this money? Well, you know, well,

493
00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,199
Speaker 3: first I need to just show you what he looks like.

494
00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:34,280
Speaker 3: I haven't really done a good job. This is him

495
00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:37,439
Speaker 3: with the world's most interesting man. Now that's not the

496
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,320
Speaker 3: actual world's most interesting man. That's a cardboard cutout of

497
00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:44,119
Speaker 3: the world's most interesting man heavens. So yeah, and he's

498
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,080
Speaker 3: not a very tall guy. And you know, nothing wrong

499
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:47,639
Speaker 3: with you know, him not being tall. I was a

500
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:49,479
Speaker 3: short kid. I grew late I have you know, But

501
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,879
Speaker 3: my man, if you're gonna name yourself Rob Tall and

502
00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,040
Speaker 3: then and call attention to that, and then put in

503
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:58,560
Speaker 3: five capital l's to make sure you don't miss it anyway. Whatever,

504
00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:02,159
Speaker 3: So old Rob not exactly Tall University, his suddenly stacked

505
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,640
Speaker 3: bank account right, He's just things get ridiculous for him.

506
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,639
Speaker 3: So he rents an apartment in a downtown LA he

507
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,159
Speaker 3: guess he finds his luxury condo building. He gets a

508
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,679
Speaker 3: place on the thirty fifth story. He's like, you know,

509
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 3: why would he do this? Because that's a rock star.

510
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 3: So later on he would then move places because that

511
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 3: wasn't I guess rockstar enough. So he went up to

512
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 3: the Hollywood Hills, right, because that's a rock star. And

513
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,480
Speaker 3: his rent was ten five hundred dollars a month. What

514
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 3: does he care?

515
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:28,720
Speaker 2: It's not his money, that's true.

516
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:30,879
Speaker 3: So Rob would also he loved to take trips. He

517
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:32,200
Speaker 3: was a guy I like to bounce around the world,

518
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:33,679
Speaker 3: because why, that's what rock stars do.

519
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:35,440
Speaker 2: He's a citizen of the world exactly.

520
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,320
Speaker 3: You go down the Caribbean, you go to South America

521
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 3: to be able.

522
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,240
Speaker 2: To put all them flags in his Instagram.

523
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:41,879
Speaker 3: He had the big map, yeah, and he wanted all

524
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:45,440
Speaker 3: the pens so well, I would imagine that he would

525
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 3: tell himself, I'm going to go out there and like

526
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,639
Speaker 3: find my fans, like the ones in South America Europe

527
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:51,400
Speaker 3: that are waiting for me. But I can't even get

528
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 3: myself through that sentence So anyway, Rob, he was like

529
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,720
Speaker 3: the kind of guy who liked, you know, all the

530
00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 3: beautiful and expensive things in life. Right. I don't know

531
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:01,360
Speaker 3: if he did that because he liked rocks. They thought

532
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 3: that was what rock stars did and he just needed

533
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 3: to be in the glamorous places or he him stuff

534
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,399
Speaker 3: liked it, but he spent his money that way, or

535
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,879
Speaker 3: rather the bank's money that right. So after spending a

536
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,640
Speaker 3: decade or so dreaming of becoming the next Blink one

537
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,200
Speaker 3: eighty two, because that was his inspiration.

538
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:16,440
Speaker 2: Oh you're kidding.

539
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:18,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, the dude was like, honey, he'd been down there

540
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,479
Speaker 3: in so Kyle dreaming of being like, you know whatever,

541
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:27,399
Speaker 3: Travis and uh, Tom and Mark right one of the

542
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 3: guy that's all yeah, exactly, yeah, I think that's the

543
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 3: Tom one. Anyway, Tom DeLong. Here we go. Okay, So

544
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 3: this dude's a He's like, okay, I want to be

545
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:38,560
Speaker 3: a rock star. He spending ten years trying to do it.

546
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 3: He can't do it, so he turns to crime. Right now,

547
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,439
Speaker 3: now he's got the money, he's blowing stuff like as

548
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:44,880
Speaker 3: fast as he can. So he's like, oh, what else

549
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 3: do I need? Like I got my rock star house.

550
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 3: I needed tour bus.

551
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 2: Did he have other people in his band?

552
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,440
Speaker 3: Oh, we'll get to that, okay, So it's like, okay,

553
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 3: oh yeah, that's why I haven't mentioned them his band,

554
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,360
Speaker 3: So his tour he gets the tour bus right, seven

555
00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 3: hundred fifty thousand dollars. This is not a normal tour bus.

556
00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,240
Speaker 3: You not for all roped a university. Oh yeah, like

557
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,119
Speaker 3: a full this dumb bunny's tour bus. It was so

558
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 3: tricked out that Limo Digest wrote about it. Okay, Limo Digest,

559
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 3: it sounds like a magazine someone to write for, like

560
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 3: in a rom com in the nineties. I feel right

561
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 3: for Limo Digest. That's why I'm here on that.

562
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:16,639
Speaker 2: It's like a Hallmark movie.

563
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,160
Speaker 3: Yes exactly. It makes no sense, but writing.

564
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,200
Speaker 2: For Limo Digest and I have to go back home,

565
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,159
Speaker 2: you know, my parents. If he wanted to be like

566
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:25,880
Speaker 2: Blinkoin eighty two, he should have gotten an old.

567
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 3: Van, oh totally and played the music and all the stuff.

568
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 3: If he should have done the other part of the

569
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 3: rock star. So anyway, Limo Digest as a feature story

570
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 3: on dudes Bus, the new bus for rock band lights.

571
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:42,400
Speaker 2: Over Paris, and it's also fake.

572
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 3: The dude had taste, not good taste, but he had taste, right,

573
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,200
Speaker 3: So I went and I looked. The bus was designed

574
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 3: to look like an airplane, right, And on the side

575
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,479
Speaker 3: of the bus he had he had these exterior awnings

576
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 3: which when you expanded them to like airplane wings. Inside

577
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,159
Speaker 3: the bus he had all these little airplane like like

578
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 3: fake wings like for the knobs of the faucet or whatever. Right, yeah,

579
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 3: everything exactly so luxurious. Master suite, custom built master bedroom.

580
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 3: Suite also has a recording studio in it with Privacy Glass.

581
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 3: I watched a YouTube video from the makers of this

582
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 3: tour bus because they were so proud of the work

583
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 3: that they did, and it's still love. You can't find

584
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 3: a lot of stuff from this guy, but you can

585
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,719
Speaker 3: find the tour bus. So he actually had like a

586
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,200
Speaker 3: there's a wine cooler in there. There was a custom

587
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 3: red iron granite countertops. The forward lounge for his bandmates.

588
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 3: It boasted a three D Sony TV, which was a

589
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 3: big deal for the time. There were also bunks for

590
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 3: his quote bandmates which had their own TVs and game systems.

591
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:38,679
Speaker 3: On the side of the bus, it was painted the

592
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,120
Speaker 3: words lights over Paris. You know that way people would

593
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 3: know who the hell was inside the finish bus. It

594
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 3: looks like, you know, I don't know, like if hot

595
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 3: topic in Miami. Right was handing out the company's like

596
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 3: first romance novel and it was like complete with Neon

597
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 3: cover fonts. And someone was like, you know what, this

598
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,919
Speaker 3: would make a great tour bus. That's what it looks like. Well,

599
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 3: I'll just show you.

600
00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 2: Oh you're show and tell what. Oh and if if

601
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 2: that is not what I was picturing?

602
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and this is what you would see if

603
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:10,119
Speaker 3: you happen to be stuck behind this bust in traffic. Yeah,

604
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 3: oh yeah, they got He's got a picture of himself

605
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 3: and a bunch of the band mates. My fingers are

606
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 3: in the air cone like it's a giant cone that

607
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 3: it's supposed to look like a ship like a plane, like

608
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 3: like the concord or something. It's super extended blast out

609
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 3: front and on the back. It looks like it should

610
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:31,640
Speaker 3: be like we are the band cruise ship magicians. It's amazing, right,

611
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,119
Speaker 3: So I don't know who owns this now, I actually

612
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,159
Speaker 3: do not know. I could not find that, but uh,

613
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 3: but you may be wondering, right, Okay, so he's got

614
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 3: this tour bust for like being Abbert Adam Lambert's opening

615
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 3: act right, and he's like, everything's set, but he does

616
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 3: he have a band, like who are the cruise ship? Right? Well,

617
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 3: Elizabeth as you find it out when I think it's right.

618
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 3: If you have a bus looks like an airplane, that's

619
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,360
Speaker 3: not what you need to become led Zeppelin. You need

620
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,359
Speaker 3: other things. So Rob Tall University is like, well, I'm

621
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 3: just gonna get me a so he gets a bunch

622
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 3: of session musicians.

623
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 2: The he got the tour bus first, yeah, and then

624
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 2: got the band.

625
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 3: So it gets like the session musicians and then he

626
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 3: like has them like, oh, man write the album with him. Man,

627
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 3: he writes all these songs right, and then he goes

628
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:14,439
Speaker 3: out and he's like, oh, I'm gonna I need to

629
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 3: do videos, right, So he's making videos before the album's

630
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,199
Speaker 3: come out. So he's making videos. And so there was

631
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 3: one of these Lights of her Paris music videos. Well,

632
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:24,880
Speaker 3: there was a guy who his name is Brian Knight.

633
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 3: He went on twenty twenty to talk about this, like

634
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 3: when he was trying to describe his experience on a

635
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 3: Lights of Her Paris video set, and I quote it

636
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 3: was crazy. There was a lot happening. There was a

637
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 3: lot of booze and a lot of champagne, and the

638
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 3: hotel sweet ended up getting trash at the end of

639
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 3: the trip. So that's all just rock star stuff, right mostly,

640
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 3: But then he goes into remember this is the video

641
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 3: of Vixen era in hip hop. This is early two

642
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 3: thousand oh right, So back to Brian King, I have

643
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 3: no idea where all the women came from. He'd get

644
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 3: a woman to sit in the middle of the buffet

645
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 3: table and hand people sushi off of her body. Oh god,

646
00:28:58,160 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 3: now why would he have a naked woman with a

647
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 3: buffet on her belly? That's what rock stars of course,

648
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 3: or maybe they don't because they actually.

649
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 2: Have class off of someone's gross skin.

650
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, you maybe don't. My god, completely raw fish off

651
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 3: of warm skin. It's just like, this is not what

652
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 3: glitter on it. You got the cool side cool and

653
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 3: that warm side warm. Anyway, you can't have a music

654
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 3: video without a song, and you've asked what they sound like, right, Well,

655
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 3: some of the bank's money went into the studio time right.

656
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 3: He paid for session musicians to record his Lights Over

657
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 3: Paris album. He hired a lush string section. It was

658
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 3: like he was doing his best impression of Charlie Parker

659
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 3: with strings. He's like, I need strings, Like, bro, you're

660
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 3: not Charlie Parker. He's like, no, my cheesy, forgettable pop

661
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 3: songs needs stringing. So his whole bands they said session musicians.

662
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 3: So there's no band yet, but his store bought band.

663
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 3: They do record albums and uh.

664
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 2: No albums.

665
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 3: Sorry, songs for the album. Should say yeah, songs for

666
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 3: the album, right, but I like, is that one of

667
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 3: the songs? Like the first single, I guess it was

668
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 3: called turn on Off the Lights. Now, the band's name

669
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 3: is Lights Over.

670
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 2: Parents, Lights Over Pairs? Are you okay? Do you need

671
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 2: to talk to someone?

672
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 3: I'm not the fake rock star here.

673
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 2: Everyone check on Lights Over.

674
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 3: They're sending mixed signals turn off the Lights. So for

675
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 3: their EP, turn Off the Lights, the first that they named.

676
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 2: The lights or just something totally different.

677
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 3: Not just a song, they're they're single. They also named

678
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 3: the EP turn Off the Light Lights a genius yes,

679
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,479
Speaker 3: So that the band decides to make the visually stunning

680
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 3: music video. They're like, we need to get, you know,

681
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 3: the best stuffs. They hire actors, actresses and the main

682
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 3: bikini clad actress Olivia Hart was suspicious of where this

683
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 3: talentless band and this talentless singer got the money to

684
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 3: hire someone like her. So she went up and just

685
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 3: asked the dude. She's like, how do you have the

686
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 3: mighty to do? Yeah, what's going on here? Robb Tall University.

687
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 3: He thought for a moment, ran his fingers through his air,

688
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 3: and he's like, yeah, well my grandpa died. He's like,

689
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 3: I took his money and I dropped six Yeah. Whatever.

690
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 2: Wait, and so she's walking around at a bikini. It

691
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 2: seems so outlandish to me when I think about how

692
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 2: videos used to be, Like, I just can't imagine a

693
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 2: band doing like a bikini babe video.

694
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no, except this one. I did my dude intelligence, Elizabeth.

695
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 3: I watched the video. I listened to the songs. Here's

696
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 3: a sample lyric. I have a sample lyric for you already.

697
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 3: This is Ah. I met a girl. She's super cool.

698
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 3: I love the city lights, she loves the pool. I'm

699
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 3: signing autographs she writes at school. She's taking photographs that

700
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 3: make me want to drool. I'm like, yeah, yeah, you know,

701
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 3: I'm into you. I did no music for that. It

702
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 3: doesn't need the music, the poetry, it's right there.

703
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 2: I momentarily lost the ability to speak. Wait, she's writing

704
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 2: at school exactly.

705
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 3: There's so many red flags. So I watched the videos

706
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 3: that school. So the video features him walking around a

707
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 3: rental La mansion as his girl is checking her makeup

708
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 3: on a floaty in the pool. She also reads a

709
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 3: book because you know that was in the lyrics, so

710
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 3: she's there's a shot, take a book. And the whole

711
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:16,959
Speaker 3: thing is about as the brainless the music video as

712
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 3: you've ever seen. It's as bad and as dumb as

713
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 3: the song. It's like pop punky, No, it's more like

714
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 3: justin Timberlake punk. You keep going, that's what it sounds

715
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 3: like to me, Like, but if you just take everything

716
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 3: out of that, you know, if you just dial down,

717
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 3: all the things that are talent or music are good

718
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 3: and just do you leave the stuff that is beat

719
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 3: and his string in his voice the holy ground exactly.

720
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 3: So when the dude in this music video, I was

721
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 3: like sitting there watching it, I'm like, I'd be willing

722
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 3: to bet shoot if I just like randomly thought of

723
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 3: an idea, it'd be better than this. So I was like, okay,

724
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 3: if you took like a camera, turned it on, put

725
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 3: it in like a red wagon, and just drug it

726
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 3: down the street. That would be a better music video

727
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 3: than this. If you took the camera, turned it on

728
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 3: and just kicked it down a flight of stairs, that

729
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 3: would be a better music video than this. But whatever,

730
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 3: the guy didn't do any of that because he's got

731
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 3: millions of dollars. He just threw millions of dollars at

732
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 3: the screen, right, So, now, chasing good money with bad,

733
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 3: the front man decided to guide his pretend band of

734
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 3: session musicians onto the pages of Billboard Magazine. His plan

735
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 3: works on the band's website. They're the band's website. Their

736
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 3: sound is described as quite a mix of melodic rock

737
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 3: hooks with pulsating dance rhythms and a taste of hip hop.

738
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 3: Yeah that taste of hip hop? I don't even know

739
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 3: that anyway, though, this mix works and Billboard names them

740
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 3: on their heat Seekers Albums chart stop it. Yeah, they

741
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 3: make it to number six and they were officially an

742
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 3: up and coming band.

743
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 2: So this just tells me that you can never trust anything.

744
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 2: Billboard Magazine ever says.

745
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, ever, they pretty much stepped in it on that.

746
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 3: Yeah they did, so, Now, well, is it. But they

747
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 3: are at officially an up and coming band, and Billboard

748
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 3: has basically proved and as you point out that they

749
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:05,239
Speaker 3: have no validity, zero credibility now and uh, well, you know,

750
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 3: what are you going to do with Rob Tall University

751
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 3: now that he is an actual rock star and he

752
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,240
Speaker 3: can point to himself in the pages of Billboard magazine.

753
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 2: Oh no, is he going to take the magazine to

754
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 2: the banks.

755
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,439
Speaker 3: He's going to go bigger. It's the year twenty ten,

756
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 3: and so things are changing, the cultures shifting. He's like,

757
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 3: I got to get ahead of things. So to keep

758
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 3: momentum going for his entirely pretend band, the frontman went

759
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 3: for the biggest gambit yet yet. He said, I need

760
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 3: to go bigger. I need to get stars involved. Yes, yes,

761
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,959
Speaker 3: So for his next video he ups the star power

762
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 3: and he hires out the rapper the Game. He asked

763
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 3: the Game to come over and star in his video

764
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 3: for his new latest Lights Over Paris Banger. I'm not

765
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 3: a gangster.

766
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 2: Wait no, like hearing the first lyrics set like that

767
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 2: and now I'm.

768
00:34:54,680 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 3: Not a Just imagine a Seth Green personating an impression

769
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 3: of Tom Cruise walking up to some girls in a bar.

770
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,839
Speaker 3: That's how the video starts. Well, no, sorry I left

771
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,760
Speaker 3: out apart. First video starts with like a girl's finger

772
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 3: fingering the buttons of an old school jukebox. Right, she

773
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 3: seductively presses as a button and the song starts, the

774
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 3: song that.

775
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:17,879
Speaker 2: We don't want to hear, I'm not a.

776
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 3: Gangst It comes out right, and then this, you know,

777
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 3: the pop backbeat drops And when I say drops, imagine

778
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 3: like a Kleenex landing on a bed of cotton balls.

779
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 3: It just dropped. So now you mentioned the lyrics from

780
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:30,959
Speaker 3: the last song.

781
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 2: Yes, I got more lyrics for your girl, Thank you.

782
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,760
Speaker 3: I need these, alady. Yeah, the lyrics go down in CALLI.

783
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 3: The girls drink until they go crazy and smoke until

784
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 3: they all get dizzy. She told me I could call

785
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 3: her my baby. None of them rhyme Callie crazy dizzy

786
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 3: baby rhymes, but whatever slant rhym so he keeps going,

787
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 3: Oh good, Yeah she could. She told me I could

788
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 3: call her my baby, but just for the night. We

789
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 3: were coasting all the way down to the ocean. And

790
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 3: then she slipped something inside my hand. Can you guess

791
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:04,359
Speaker 3: what she slipped inside his hand?

792
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 2: Elizabeth so scared of what baby slipped, the baby's kid

793
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 2: put in her hands.

794
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 3: I've got good news for you. I don't know what

795
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,839
Speaker 3: it is. He never says. He's like, who knows, who cares?

796
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 2: He was like he was afraid, there's no good way

797
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 2: to go with No, he's just let me a permission

798
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 2: slip for her to go on.

799
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 3: I mean, who knows. And I do not have a

800
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 3: bloody knife.

801
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 2: I mean, there's so many, so many ways I can

802
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 2: go with this.

803
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 3: Instead he keeps it ring.

804
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,760
Speaker 2: I mean I can keep going, I can keep going.

805
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,800
Speaker 3: So instead he just sings. And this is what I said.

806
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 3: I'm not a gangster, but I would ride for you,

807
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 3: and if it came down to it, I would die

808
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:49,240
Speaker 3: for you. I'm not a gangster, but I get high

809
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 3: with you. I would throw away my whole life for you. Okay. One,

810
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 3: I don't think he understands what a gangster his just

811
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 3: right off the bat. I'm just gonna take that. Two,

812
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 3: did he write this is a love song to his

813
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 3: own ego? Because man, that last line really turn out

814
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 3: to be prophetic. Yeah, I would ruin my whole life

815
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 3: or whatever. So and also three, this is where the

816
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 3: song really gets starts to get good. And why by

817
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 3: good I mean just not as bad. Right. So this

818
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 3: is when the rapper of the game shows up. Now

819
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 3: I'm guessing the game was like, well, if the check clears.

820
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:24,880
Speaker 2: I'm thinking it's like, I will soak this fella.

821
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 3: Apparently the check clear because Elizabeth, he was there. Yeah,

822
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 3: after the break, I will be back to tell you

823
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 3: all about what the game does on this video shoot.

824
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 3: I'm sure that it's gonna bend your brains. Okay, Elizabeth,

825
00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 3: I promised you the game on the set whites Over

826
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 3: Paris with my man Rob Tall University. Yes, now this

827
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 3: is gonna be so good. I'm just gonna need you

828
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 3: to just pretty much just close.

829
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 2: Your eyes they are closed, and picture it.

830
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 3: Yes, Downtown La, nighttime, the industrial section the arts district.

831
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 3: You are standing by a generator, drinking coffee with a

832
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 3: pair of Teamster truck drivers. You're in charge of a

833
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 3: Rolls Royce, part of the luxury vehicle rental package for

834
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 3: the music video shoot. You've never heard of the band.

835
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:31,359
Speaker 3: You could care less about the band. You don't even

836
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 3: care about this shoot. But when you heard that the

837
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,240
Speaker 3: game would be on the set, that's when you decided

838
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 3: you would be the one to take this gig. Normally

839
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,399
Speaker 3: you'd send over one of your coworkers for these late

840
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 3: night independent shoots. But you are a huge fan of

841
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:44,839
Speaker 3: the game, and ever since he first dropped his EP

842
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 3: back in the day on the label of JT the

843
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 3: Biga Figure, you have been down with the game. Now,

844
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 3: when he dropped his major label album, The Documentary, you

845
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 3: thought that album was a masterpiece. You still haven't forgiven

846
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 3: fifty cent for pushing the game out of docre Is

847
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 3: Aftermath Records. No, that is wrong.

848
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 2: I will never forgive him for that.

849
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:05,800
Speaker 3: But now this video shoot is your chance to finally

850
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 3: see the game up close personal. Oh yeah, Now at

851
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 3: the moment, one of the pair of Teamster truck drivers

852
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 3: is having a big chest rumble and chuckle. It's the

853
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,879
Speaker 3: spring of twenty eleven and you were all laughing about

854
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 3: the late night talk show host take on Obama ordering

855
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 3: the strike that took out Osama bin Laden.

856
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 2: Uh, that's funny.

857
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, And kim Old did a weekend at Bernie spoof

858
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 3: that had been lauden enjoy quote one last day in

859
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 3: the Sun. It's a weird time in the culture. Anyway.

860
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,240
Speaker 3: You see the game as he steps out of his trailer.

861
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 3: It's one of those rental star wagons trailers, the kind

862
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 3: that they're always on the streets of the valley for

863
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 3: real movie shoots. Whoever is paying for this music video

864
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:43,320
Speaker 3: shoot is going all out. I say, hey, babe, this

865
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 3: young production assistant tells you it's time to bring around

866
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 3: the Rolls Royce for this part of the shoot. But

867
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 3: you were already headed over to speak with the game. Yeah,

868
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 3: plan to tell him all about how much fifty cent

869
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 3: was a bum. But yes, you're like, I guess that

870
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 3: can wait, you think to yourself as you go wandering

871
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 3: over to the car. You are at work. You can

872
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 3: always speak with him later. Since you're the one who

873
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,399
Speaker 3: hearing the car around, he's supposed to be in the car,

874
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 3: so you will have a moment with him no matter what.

875
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,280
Speaker 3: So you go walking off on the soaked down streets,

876
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 3: the ones that are wedded to look the best for

877
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 3: a music video, and you splash through the puddles of

878
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 3: neon light, and then you hop in the whip and

879
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,319
Speaker 3: you do your best impression of driving Miss Daisy, and

880
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 3: you wheel that luxury auto around the late night downtown

881
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,359
Speaker 3: video shoot. And when you get back to the set

882
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 3: with the car. You hear the video playback booming the song.

883
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 3: It bounces off the downtown canyon walls. The lyrics you

884
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 3: hear are thankfully from the game's portion of the song,

885
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 3: but they are not good. Oh no, peace to my

886
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 3: old girl. Got me a new one. She's so hood,

887
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 3: she's so me. I love is like a drug and

888
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 3: we od cuz got me a winner. Charlie Sheen invited

889
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 3: us for dinner. Oh y, and we both went in

890
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 3: her and we both went our separate ways, and Charlie

891
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 3: had this to say, I'm not a gangsta.

892
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 2: Okay, someone needs to.

893
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:59,359
Speaker 3: Go get you. You're all out the window and park

894
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 3: the car. Sit there for a moment. You wonder if

895
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 3: this is really how you want to spend your one

896
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 3: wild life. You contemplate turning the Rolls Royce back on

897
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,280
Speaker 3: and just driving away, but you have bills to pay,

898
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 3: and so you're a boss is expecting his car back

899
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 3: at the rental place. So instead you tell yourself I'm

900
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 3: not a gangstuf. And then you open the door to

901
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 3: the Rolls Royce, step out and shut the door. You

902
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,320
Speaker 3: ask a production assistant, where can I find mister lights

903
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 3: over Paris? Okay?

904
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 2: Now, I'm just gonna go take a silk wood shower.

905
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 3: Get that off. You imagine the Charlie sheen of it all.

906
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 2: No, I can't. I don't want to.

907
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 3: At the start of twenty eleven, Rob Tay University is

908
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 3: on top of the world. You'd have to look up

909
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 3: to see him. Yeah. So he's the frontman of a

910
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 3: fake band. He has a very real custom to her bus.

911
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 3: He's got a spot on the Billboards chart for up

912
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 3: and coming new bands. He's got an album that's out there.

913
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 3: It's an EP. He's a couple of songs, but he's

914
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 3: got videos and the games in it, and you know

915
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 3: things are about to go boom for him. But then

916
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 3: the banks show up and they're like, hey, man, remember

917
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 3: when we gave that dude that money? Yeah? Yeah, has

918
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 3: he paid us back yet? No, I haven't heard from him. Right, Well,

919
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 3: they had expected their money back. It wasn't a donation, right.

920
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 3: So the trouble starts with a series of friendly calls.

921
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 3: Right now, these are not actually calls from Bank of America.

922
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 3: These are not quotes, but this is how I imagine

923
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 3: the calls I would have gone.

924
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 2: This is probably way better.

925
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, so sir, it's Bank of America calling. We keep

926
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 3: missing you. This is the fourth message we've left. We'd

927
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:25,359
Speaker 3: like to discuss your repayment schedule for your loans. Please

928
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 3: call your earliest convenience. You know a couple of days, sir,

929
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 3: Bank of America calling, so I haven't heard from you.

930
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:34,280
Speaker 3: Please call back at the earliest convenience. Another week passes

931
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 3: Bank of America again. Look, man, you have millions of

932
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 3: dollars of our money and we expect you to pay

933
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 3: it back. You better call us back. Another week goes by,

934
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 3: still no hearing nothing from him. Bank of America gets

935
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 3: back on the phone. Hey man, Bank of America trying

936
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 3: to dodge us. You think that's gonna work out for you?

937
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 3: Bank of America is gonna get its money, pal, But

938
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 3: you know what you go, You run and hide. You

939
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 3: try to hide from us, because Bank of America is

940
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,399
Speaker 3: gonna find you. Your ass is grass and we are

941
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 3: the lawnmower. Good day, sir. Now that's just how I imagine.

942
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 3: That is not what Bank of America said.

943
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 2: That's their call center script.

944
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:08,800
Speaker 3: That's the vibe though, right. I've never worked in a

945
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 3: call center, but it seems like that's what they would say. Anyway,

946
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,720
Speaker 3: August twenty eleven rolls around. He's still managing to dodge

947
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 3: the banks as they're circling on him, going where's our

948
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 3: millions of dollars? So the front man eventually does have

949
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:22,399
Speaker 3: to call the banks back. So what does he say?

950
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 3: What's he going to tell them about the money and

951
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:28,359
Speaker 3: his rise to stardom? The investment's going great, guys were

952
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 3: on the billboards hot seekers album, well, he explained to

953
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 3: He calls him up and look, I know I missed

954
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 3: your guys calls, but I was on the road, man, rockstar,

955
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 3: I was on tour, you know what it is. And

956
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,919
Speaker 3: they're like, oh yeah, okay, Well, when are we gonna

957
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 3: get our money? He's like about that, man, I got updates.

958
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 3: Look okay, So I'm gonna put everything on the table

959
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 3: with you, guys. I was in a car wreck. I'm

960
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 3: on pills now, so things aren't going so well for me.

961
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 3: I'm dealing with an incredible amount of pain here, guys.

962
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,959
Speaker 3: That sounds like a pick exactly where's our money? Rob?

963
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 3: So he's like, look, and by the way, Lizabeth, just

964
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 3: to keep facts on the table. There was no car accident,

965
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,320
Speaker 3: and I don't know where it was on pills. But anyway,

966
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 3: so the banks are Yeah. So at this point, the

967
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:12,840
Speaker 3: banks are fully after up. So what does our amateur

968
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 3: ponzi scammer do next, Well, he keeps reaching for those

969
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:19,280
Speaker 3: stars and he's running out of time. But in October

970
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 3: twenty eleven, Lights Over Paris's booked to play a big

971
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 3: gig in.

972
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 2: La Right, Oh, yeah, is this their first gig?

973
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 3: No, he's playing like small gigs at this point. But

974
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 3: he's gonna play a gig at the Roxy. This would

975
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:31,280
Speaker 3: be like their first bank gig. Right. It's a club

976
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 3: up on the Sunset Strip and it's like, you know,

977
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 3: rock star Legends, so it's a space you want to

978
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 3: be in. Right. For some reason, I'm thinking he knew

979
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 3: the banks might know that he was going to be

980
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 3: there because he's lights Over Paris and he's worried that

981
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,359
Speaker 3: if I go somewhere Ritzman advertised, there's gonna be people

982
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 3: waiting for me. So what does he do? He sends

983
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 3: a DJ. He's like, just go hit play on like

984
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 3: the laptop. Yes, he sends a DJ to his biggest

985
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 3: gig yet. And yeah, then.

986
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 2: Were they playing like were they opening for somebody or no?

987
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 3: It was his gig, He just you be lights Over Paris.

988
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 2: To anyone buy ticket.

989
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:04,399
Speaker 3: I don't know the deal on that part.

990
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:05,879
Speaker 2: I have so many questions.

991
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 3: I'm going to call the Rocks. So he gets to

992
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 3: the gig, the DJ and a process server is there

993
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 3: to love it with court papers and he's like, are

994
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 3: you mister a lights Over Parison guys? I know, yeah,

995
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:18,319
Speaker 3: it says so, but I mean I just said that

996
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 3: on stage, but I'm not him. It's complicated, Like, well,

997
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 3: here and they hits him with the papers, right, the

998
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 3: papers are not from the bank, they're from his landlord.

999
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,839
Speaker 3: He's now being sued because he's months behind darn rent

1000
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 3: as well. He's pretty much blown the cash at this point,

1001
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 3: the millions are gone, right, So what does our man

1002
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 3: do now? Well, he finally does something smart, finally something

1003
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 3: I'm proud of. He leaves the country. He gets the

1004
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 3: hell of die.

1005
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 2: Thinking about like if I suddenly had all this money

1006
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 2: in my head, I'm like, okay, I could pay the electric,

1007
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I could pay water, no problem.

1008
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 3: This cat yeah no, he's he's in MAJORCA, so he's

1009
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 3: not I'm out of here. But then he does the

1010
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:57,919
Speaker 3: like another rob Tall University thing. He comes back, He comes,

1011
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 3: He comes back to America for god knows what reason.

1012
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 3: And in February twenty thirteen, he has a flight coming

1013
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 3: in from Buenos Aires and he touches down in Miami

1014
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,360
Speaker 3: International Airport. It was an auspicious day for him. It

1015
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 3: was his thirtieth birthday and his life was about to change.

1016
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 3: He was a man. Now, No, that's not what it was.

1017
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 3: When he walks into Miami International, there's a crowd of

1018
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 3: folks there to meet him. They it's like a real

1019
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 3: rock star returning home. It's all these people cameras. But no,

1020
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 3: it was a flock of Feds. The Feds are there

1021
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 3: to meet him at the airport. They arrest the front man,

1022
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,879
Speaker 3: and his rock star dreams were now officially done. Yeah,

1023
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 3: he was in court the very next day to be arraigned.

1024
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 3: And then what does he do. The day after that

1025
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 3: he's bailed out. He goes into a bank and he asks,

1026
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:37,359
Speaker 3: I can do not stop it. He has tried to

1027
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 3: defraud the bank from millions of dollars to pay off

1028
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 3: the banks that he's now in trouble for.

1029
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

1030
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:45,839
Speaker 3: According to the.

1031
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:49,800
Speaker 2: The day after he gets the day after.

1032
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,359
Speaker 3: He's arraigned the US Attorney's office, like they like when

1033
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 3: you read the reports, they're just like shocked. At one point,

1034
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 3: they're at quote the day after he pleads guilty, he

1035
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 3: goes into a credit you do Norrange County, California, and

1036
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,760
Speaker 3: it does exactly the same crime one more time. That's

1037
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 3: in the credit credit Like, do you guys have the

1038
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 3: same reporting as banks? So I don't know why he

1039
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 3: thinks he can get away with this. He's not good,

1040
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 3: but anyway, whatever, you know, he decides to go for it.

1041
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 3: And uh, he said he wanted to just you know,

1042
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 3: they said give all the money to the banks. He's like, oh,

1043
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,879
Speaker 3: I'm trying to defraud them to pay you guys. It's

1044
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 3: not screw them, right guys. But his lawyer, the guy

1045
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,400
Speaker 3: we already met, al Jaron, he claimed that his client

1046
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 3: was not the one who was at fault, right I

1047
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 3: already told yeah, he said he quote, he knowingly submitted

1048
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 3: false numbers on fraudulent documents, but the banks took them

1049
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 3: at face value. They kept upselling him. So he's claiming

1050
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 3: that the banks didn't do their job like his client.

1051
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:45,800
Speaker 3: He's like, they would have done their job. Client couldn't

1052
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 3: have gotten away with this. And then he said, then,

1053
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,360
Speaker 3: because they did give him, as they told you, additional loans.

1054
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 3: His lawyer says, quote, the banks were really eager to

1055
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 3: loan him a lot of money, and they did go

1056
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:00,880
Speaker 3: with him. They showed him around the recording student. They

1057
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 3: looked at face value what he was telling them and

1058
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 3: the documentation he was showing them, and they loan Rob

1059
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 3: the money. Damn it, Banks, Why did you do that? Rob?

1060
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 2: Is why the rest of us can't They can never

1061
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 2: get anything taken at face value.

1062
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 3: Oh my god. Completely Well the judge, of course threw

1063
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 3: this out. He just laughed at the face of it.

1064
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 3: He's like law. And then so his girlfriend comes into court.

1065
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:22,800
Speaker 3: She's trying to, like, you know, help him out. I

1066
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 3: don't know how he has a girlfriend, but he has

1067
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 3: a girlfriend someone like really loves and cares and believes

1068
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 3: in his dream. And she says, and I quote, I

1069
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 3: know that Rob knows what he did was wrong. But

1070
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 3: I also know is that a lot of what Rob

1071
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 3: did came from the passion of wanting to live out

1072
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Speaker 3: his dream, the dream of being a rock star. Starting

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Speaker 3: lights over Paris was not a selfish attempt at fame,

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Speaker 3: but rather a way to involve so many people in

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Speaker 3: a shared dream. I would love to imagine that. Now,

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00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 3: remember the brothers they were dragged in, the Salazar brothers, Yeah,

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00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 3: they were part of that shared dream. Well they got

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00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 3: their time in court as part of that share dream. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, so he broke some off for.

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00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 3: Them to one point seven millions for them. Yeah, and

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Speaker 3: so they had to plead guilty to loan fraud and

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Speaker 3: they also went to prison. Yeah, so thanks for that

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00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:15,280
Speaker 3: shared dream. Then there's lights over Paris. The band.

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Speaker 2: You can be wondering, what about the band?

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Speaker 3: How do we get that band back together? Well, the

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00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 3: keep in mind session musicians, right, we've got we've gone

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00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 3: over that. But the band is not calling it quits.

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00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:27,799
Speaker 3: I don't know what that means because there is no band.

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00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 3: But apparently a Japanese record label signed Rob and the

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00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 3: band to a recording contract. And this happened just before

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00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 3: he pleaded guilty. Right, so this was like he finally

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00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 3: got his dream, right he made he signed the record contract.

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00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:43,319
Speaker 3: So anyway, in the meantime, he can now write new

1094
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,840
Speaker 3: songs while he's behind bars. It worked out for Merle Haggard.

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00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:47,799
Speaker 3: I mean, like maybe this could do it. But at

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Speaker 3: the moment he's in a federal prison in El Paso, Texas,

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Speaker 3: a place called Latuna. If you were in a place

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Speaker 3: called Latuna, Texas, you are Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I'm just thinking like any he would ever make money

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Speaker 2: off of what he's doing, but like if he were

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Speaker 2: to make royal like royalties, it would go to restitution.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yep. So like he's gonna make royalty, Well,

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00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:13,799
Speaker 3: start right, you get all those pennies from YouTube, send

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Speaker 3: them that way. So dude spends his days now learning Spanish,

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Speaker 3: taking yoga classes, and fiddling around on the guitar. On

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Speaker 3: the guitar. SO twenty twenty caught up to him. They

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Speaker 3: did an interview from jail from prison rather Rob Tall

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Speaker 3: University said of his brief time as a rock star,

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Speaker 3: and I quote the thing I regret is kind of

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Speaker 3: losing control. My lifestyle was crazy, and I was open

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Speaker 3: deep down that I could rectify the situation and pay

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Speaker 3: these things back. It was crazy, man, crazy. You can

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Speaker 3: hear the music with the lyrics and how he talks.

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Speaker 3: He's just he's just right.

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Speaker 2: There, guyse it was so crazy what everyone made me do.

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Speaker 3: Could you believe that that was wild? Guse so It

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00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:55,799
Speaker 3: must have been like so far down in him that

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Speaker 3: that desire to rectify the situation that was just buried

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Speaker 3: by all of his burning desire.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, everything that was like a log jam.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he couldn't pay. Yeah, yeah, exactly all fluxed up there.

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Speaker 2: And who did that? Who did that to him?

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Speaker 3: Oh? The banks? Elizabeth, Do we have a ridiculous takeaway?

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Speaker 2: My ridiculous takeaway would be number one. I still don't

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Speaker 2: understand how these banks went ahead and made those loans.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I didn't think that a studio, even if

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00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:26,319
Speaker 3: it was making twelve million dollars, would be something that

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00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:27,839
Speaker 3: they would want to put a collateral and we're going

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Speaker 3: to give you three million.

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00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 2: Against Yeah, it makes no sense. And more than one bank.

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00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:33,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, do you want to get into the recording industry

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00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 3: as Bank of America?

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00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 2: Anyway?

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00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 3: Can you sell that to somebody? I don't think it's

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Speaker 3: worth that enough on paper that it's like it carries value.

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Speaker 2: So my takeaway is that this whole thing makes no sense.

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00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 3: No, there you go. Money is not real.

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00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:48,359
Speaker 2: No, it's not.

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00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 3: Well, thanks for that one, Zarin. You're welcome, Zarin. So

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Speaker 3: I'm just gonna do it for you, Elizabeth, you're not

1141
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 3: going to do it. I'm doing it for you, all right.

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Speaker 3: You can find us online if you'd like a ridiculous

1143
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:02,800
Speaker 3: I'm about Twitter and Instagram. We also have a pitching

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00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 3: new website, ridiculous Crime dot com. Emails if you like

1145
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:08,840
Speaker 3: a ridiculous crime at gmail dot com. Also, we do

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00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 3: talkbacks on the iHeart apps, so download that and talk

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Speaker 3: back at us well. Once again, thanks for listening. Thank you.

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Speaker 3: Ridiculous Crimes mostly by Elizabeth Dutton and Zarah Rinett, produced

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Speaker 3: and edited by lead singer and driver of the Winnebago

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Speaker 3: Dave Houston. Research is by Marissa Lights over Paris, Texas

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Speaker 3: Brown and Andrea Lights over Paris, Indiana. Song Sharpen Tear,

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Speaker 3: our theme song is by Thomas String, Daddy Lee and

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Speaker 3: Travis the Strings. She's Incident cover band director Dutton. Executive

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Speaker 3: producers are Ben We need a tour of Us Bowlin

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Speaker 3: and No No, we need a tour Train Brown Ridics

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Speaker 3: Why Say It One More Time?

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