Speaker 1: I had no idea. Fred to Blackness said that, and
Speaker 1: I wont every Black History munch for at my church
Speaker 1: when I was twin Well, your church was trashed. Let's
Speaker 1: start there. Your church wasn't doing good Black history and
Speaker 1: they weren't incorporating the Texas. It's the same Martin Luther
Speaker 1: King speech every year. But I'll be honest, they weren't
Speaker 1: doing enough. And that's on you. That's on you, That's
Speaker 1: on the church that you belong. My chips in your
Speaker 1: us racist also money, many stuff I can't tell me.
Speaker 1: Bang bang bang, skeet, skeet skeet. The area is Ladies
Speaker 1: and gentlemen, Welcome to another phenomenon devastating episode of My
Speaker 1: Mama Told Me, the podcast where we dive deep, deep
Speaker 1: into the conspiracies of the black community and we finally
Speaker 1: worked to prove that Irma Pete Hall may have lost
Speaker 1: her leg in the movie So Food, but I assure
Speaker 1: you ain't. Nothing happened to that ass. You're sitting on
Speaker 1: something sturdy, big Mama, and I want to eat mac
Speaker 1: and cheese off of it every Sunday. That's right, Irma
Speaker 1: pe Hall, come and find me, sweetheart. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: see what that meat do. It's meat. Your host leg
Speaker 1: stan kermy the man yelling sexual comments that irma pe Hall.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm into. You should know that about me.
Speaker 1: I'm very excited today our guests. A phenomenal comedian, a
Speaker 1: dear friend, a man who I've known longer than almost
Speaker 1: anybody I can think of in my my journey as
Speaker 1: a comedian. He was one of the first comedians I
Speaker 1: ever met. He hysterically, you know I'm from Comedy Central.
Speaker 1: You know I'm from r I P That NBC. Uh
Speaker 1: what was that ship? Go? Well, what is it not
Speaker 1: Quimby the one before? Yeah, see so r I PC. So,
Speaker 1: But goddamn did he have a funny set on there
Speaker 1: that NBC couldn't maintain because they didn't invest right in
Speaker 1: to see so? But this motherfucker's funniest shit. A dear friend.
Speaker 1: Give it up for Clark Jones, everybody that's up for
Speaker 1: everybody were here. Don't be bad that Chicago got to promote.
Speaker 1: I got to entro myself. Yeah, my credit was a defunct.
Speaker 1: My credit was a worst version of Quimby. Well that's
Speaker 1: not true. See so I had a lot of good
Speaker 1: things that they just didn't give a funk about and
Speaker 1: uh let die. Yeah it was. It was ran by NBC.
Speaker 1: I wish NBC knew about see so that I wish
Speaker 1: they knew, Like there's like see so it was like
Speaker 1: some money they found in the couch. Oh that's ours.
Speaker 1: Oh oh oh ship. We were supposed to be in
Speaker 1: charge of that. Wait wait us, NBCTV the thing Bill
Speaker 1: cos you tried to buy Okay, all right, and now
Speaker 1: I see maybe we were responsible for his downfall. Maybe
Speaker 1: this whole thing was right. Bill didn't like that. I mean, damn,
Speaker 1: we need this. We need another reboot. We need this
Speaker 1: Cheers reboot to pop. We needed money for that. We
Speaker 1: have to drop C so we had to drop it.
Speaker 1: How are you, dude? Man, I'm never as good as
Speaker 1: I say that I am on the podcast. Sure, sure,
Speaker 1: you know what. Let me say this. I appreciate your
Speaker 1: your transparency in this. A lot of people are like,
Speaker 1: I'm great, and it's like, no, you're not. You're crumbling inside.
Speaker 1: I'm never I mean even more so today. I had
Speaker 1: a terrible experience this morning, and I'm just it's one
Speaker 1: of those things that I took care of. But just
Speaker 1: because you put the fire out. That don't mean it
Speaker 1: didn't cause damage. Right, I'm dealing with that. But I'm here.
Speaker 1: I'm glad to be here, glad to be talking to
Speaker 1: you man, and not a complete stranger. Hell yeah on
Speaker 1: the podcast saying I'm great. If if you were a stranger,
Speaker 1: I would be like, I'm great, man, Let's do it.
Speaker 1: I'm excited. Yeah, And it was me. You're like, hey man,
Speaker 1: things are crumbling, but tell you a little jokes. Let's
Speaker 1: let's get to it. This is just a FaceTime that
Speaker 1: uh that we haven't that's recorded with a secret person. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm excited, if nothing else, to get into your conspiracy theory,
Speaker 1: because very rarely on this podcast does somebody come to
Speaker 1: me with a conspiracy theory. I've never heard of before
Speaker 1: in my life. This is a brand new one to me,
Speaker 1: and not in a bad way. I'm it's one that
Speaker 1: I heard and I was like, I don't know, maybe
Speaker 1: quite possibly. I'm listening, and I want to make it clear.
Speaker 1: You said, my mama told me the mattress industry intentionally
Speaker 1: introduced a bad Bucks outbreak in order to sell more mattresses.
Speaker 1: You nailed it, that's it, Yes, tell me more. Where
Speaker 1: does this come from where what I lived in New
Speaker 1: York from through ten nineteen, and when we moved there,
Speaker 1: there was no outbreak and about they were just everywhere.
Speaker 1: And then they went from New York and all of
Speaker 1: a sudden it was across the country. And then we
Speaker 1: just stopped hearing about it. And I would go to
Speaker 1: Times Square and I would just see, like why is
Speaker 1: like the mattress company like Prime real estate elevators like
Speaker 1: Red Carpet, and they just kept popping up. They kept
Speaker 1: popping because you know, you take advantage, Like I think
Speaker 1: O c D is one of the biggest affliction that
Speaker 1: it's taking advantage of people who like, oh that has
Speaker 1: a spect of earth, Let's get it out of here.
Speaker 1: The bugs motherfucker's was like you go up and down Brooklyn,
Speaker 1: you just saw poorly plastic wrapped mattresses all of the
Speaker 1: down Pulsey Avenue. It wasn't just the big companies like
Speaker 1: you you walk down the block in a little march
Speaker 1: like one um, I forget the name of it, but like, yeah,
Speaker 1: just all these little shops was just open. That's interesting. Okay,
Speaker 1: You're you're digging into two things that I think are
Speaker 1: are really important here Number one, How the fuck does
Speaker 1: a mattress company get real estate in times squared? Like,
Speaker 1: what did y'all do that made it that you could
Speaker 1: be next to the eminem store Square mattresses? Yeah, you
Speaker 1: go to a nick game, didn't get a seey postopedic
Speaker 1: was just there's something off here, There's something something isn't
Speaker 1: And so to that point, maybe there's a possibility that
Speaker 1: this is, uh the way that somebody's washing their money.
Speaker 1: Maybe this is a big wealthy person who is figuring
Speaker 1: out a way to clean up the otherwise corrupt money
Speaker 1: that they bring in. Or these companies are figuring out
Speaker 1: a way to get money where in places and in
Speaker 1: ways that maybe are normal for regular mattress companies. Maybe
Speaker 1: you know, people needing a new mattress, you do that
Speaker 1: whatevery like five to ten years tops broadcast comics having
Speaker 1: like it wasn't even like, oh this is extra money,
Speaker 1: Like no, I got to get because not only the infestation,
Speaker 1: the stigma, right, And I lived in a bowl in Bushwick,
Speaker 1: Like bushw Week is built like a bowl, And yeah,
Speaker 1: I was wondering why we were able to afford it
Speaker 1: is because we lived at the bottom of a bowl.
Speaker 1: So whenever range, and it stormed a lot. I didn't
Speaker 1: even storm know it stormed that much in New York.
Speaker 1: But everybody's insects, dirt, whatever, slid down to the bottom
Speaker 1: of the boat and the basement in Bushwick with no windows.
Speaker 1: You were literally the lowest point of Bushwick. We were
Speaker 1: that that last that last Oreo cookie Cereal, the last
Speaker 1: soggy one that was that was you, And therefore you
Speaker 1: were getting the runoff of everybody else's ship. Think of it, Yeah,
Speaker 1: like a Cereal boat, like that last Captain crunch as
Speaker 1: all the cherry, the crunch berry read all over it.
Speaker 1: That was our apartment. So we got flooded, we got
Speaker 1: big bugs, and I had to get into mattress. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and so naturally you went to a place to buy
Speaker 1: a new mattress post bed bugs p B D or
Speaker 1: p B B pete what is it? But you go,
Speaker 1: you get this new mattress, and do they try to
Speaker 1: upsell you? Are they like then like, hey, you need
Speaker 1: this bad bug resistant mattress. I had no idea what
Speaker 1: it would even cost. So yeah, I mean, like, I
Speaker 1: don't if if the demand went up, then the price
Speaker 1: go up. It wasn't even it was the mattress. And
Speaker 1: it was like, oh and you need this special. You
Speaker 1: need a big cover, you know, a mattress. Uh cover
Speaker 1: too because then the bad bugs then they go like,
Speaker 1: oh man, you should protect it. We can get it.
Speaker 1: Oh mantel supposed to get in there. We got we
Speaker 1: need we need indoor. They just they got us on
Speaker 1: the outside of the bed. That's not good. And they
Speaker 1: like that. And you know what you else saw? What
Speaker 1: else you saw on the telephone poles, like the big
Speaker 1: thing you see when you see like bad bug. We
Speaker 1: take care of bid bugs, cocoa dog just like everywhere
Speaker 1: everywhere you went, and you saw that, and like the
Speaker 1: Dollar store had to praise so like in front of
Speaker 1: the store. It used to be to your point, there
Speaker 1: there starts to become a thriving industry around bedbugs. Anything
Speaker 1: bad but related was selling it. And and in your
Speaker 1: mind based on your conspiracy, because I do think and
Speaker 1: and let's clarify this is something you genuinely believe. Okay, cool,
Speaker 1: you said it in a very matter of fact way,
Speaker 1: like what kind of fool would ask that kind of question?
Speaker 1: And I will for our listeners at home, I want
Speaker 1: to be clear. Yeah, the fool. The fool who believes
Speaker 1: it is Clark. The question is always why wouldn't they Okay,
Speaker 1: now I'm listening because that's how they get you. I
Speaker 1: I hear you. That is how they get you. That's
Speaker 1: how they get you. But okay, so what you're saying
Speaker 1: is is that somewhere along the lines, this outbreak happens,
Speaker 1: and in your mind, the big mattress, the mattress industry,
Speaker 1: knows that they can gain resources from this whole experience.
Speaker 1: I guess my question for you is do you believe
Speaker 1: that this mattress industry created the outbreak to start off?
Speaker 1: That they are the ones that incited the outbreak. Here's
Speaker 1: the thing. I think people took advantage of it, and yes,
Speaker 1: I do think this was intentional. Wow. Yes, So like
Speaker 1: Dr Seeley of Seeley Post repeated Mr Alvin certa recast
Speaker 1: was now whenever they were doing to get rid of
Speaker 1: bad bugs because they're like, oh, dirty motherfucker's just started
Speaker 1: coming to New York and right they didn't start how
Speaker 1: to getting through Now they stronger coming from coming from
Speaker 1: the old country. No disrespect, no disrespect to all my
Speaker 1: older listeners who might have come from the old country. Country.
Speaker 1: I just mean to state the ferry. Did they hop
Speaker 1: off the ferry and decide like, oh this is nice?
Speaker 1: Did they just take their way to Brooklyn? Like no,
Speaker 1: and it's such a commuter city. Yang, how come I
Speaker 1: could go to the Upper east Side and it wasn't crazy? Right? Yeah,
Speaker 1: to that point, we're all constantly on trains, were all
Speaker 1: constantly bumping up against each other. In theory. If I'm
Speaker 1: sitting at home with bad bugs, so should this uh
Speaker 1: this Upper east Side, Max Sinista, if you will? And
Speaker 1: instead she's not getting it, But I am every man
Speaker 1: on the Upper east Side come from Crown Heights. Mhmm,
Speaker 1: so the ones I would let watch kid? Right, If
Speaker 1: your nanny ain't Jamaican, what did you even do this for? What?
Speaker 1: What are you in the game for? If you ain't
Speaker 1: gonna get a Jamaican woman to raise your children, You
Speaker 1: might as well live in Brooklyn. You might as well
Speaker 1: live there. Ye from there, you might as well live there.
Speaker 1: You might be there. You should be a name if
Speaker 1: if you're Jamaican. I love that. I love that line
Speaker 1: of Jeff Foxworthy jokes where he's just like, you should
Speaker 1: be a Jamaican living in Brooklyn you might be a
Speaker 1: Jamaican nanny if you to grammars. Oh, Jeff, when are
Speaker 1: you going to stop being funny? You know? That's all
Speaker 1: I want? Man, I think I need to come up
Speaker 1: with something like that, but I forget to write it
Speaker 1: in my notes. App so sure, like all my million
Speaker 1: dollar ideas. That's the only difference between you and Jeff
Speaker 1: Foxworthy is he he doesn't forget to write it down.
Speaker 1: He wrote one thing down. He was like, I gotta
Speaker 1: keep this big going. This is tight. You killing right now.
Speaker 1: So okay, you said something interesting, because this is something
Speaker 1: that I, in hearing your conspiracy theory, was sort of
Speaker 1: struggling with. I thought, for a second you were suggesting
Speaker 1: that the mattress companies had sort of bio engineered these
Speaker 1: bed bugs. But I think what you're saying, and correct
Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong. I think what you're saying is
Speaker 1: they in fact, just stopped doing everything they could to
Speaker 1: protect us against the bedbugs, thus allowing them to come
Speaker 1: into our lives, thus increasing their revenue. Yes, they didn't
Speaker 1: do everything they could to protect us or stop them,
Speaker 1: including releasing them, unto so what you're saying, and I
Speaker 1: just be you're saying that, like when I go to
Speaker 1: a mattress store, and specifically in New York City, and
Speaker 1: what you're saying is somebody is intentionally picking up a
Speaker 1: bed bug in a pair of tweezers and placing that
Speaker 1: bad boy right smack dab in the middle, and presuming
Speaker 1: that that bad bug will, over a course of time,
Speaker 1: lay eggs and repopulate inside my mattress, thus making it
Speaker 1: necessary for me to go back to them a year
Speaker 1: later and be like, hey, I got the ship. There
Speaker 1: there's a that this could be manifested, including and I'm
Speaker 1: not saying this to be sure because I didn't I
Speaker 1: don't have the facts, but including pretending to be sweeping
Speaker 1: as an exterminator of other bugs and planting who hold
Speaker 1: up way to goddamn minute, hold the hold the motherfucking phone, Clark.
Speaker 1: I think you just got us into a segment that
Speaker 1: I want to call talk that Talk, And in Talk
Speaker 1: that Talk, I'm gonna give you thirty seconds because you
Speaker 1: just got into something terrifying if true, horrifying if true,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you thirty seconds. I'm gonna play some music.
Speaker 1: I would love for you to fully unpack what you
Speaker 1: just said. About the possibility of the exterminators being in
Speaker 1: on this whole thing thirty seconds whenever you're ready. In
Speaker 1: the words of Giuliani, this could be anything. This is
Speaker 1: deep thing. Why wouldn't they You have no idea what
Speaker 1: they're doing. When they knock on your door and say, hey,
Speaker 1: we're from the landlord you never talked to, and we're
Speaker 1: coming to just phrase some stuff. They could be unleashing
Speaker 1: whatever bugs because look, if they got rid of all
Speaker 1: the bugs, there would be no organ man. The point
Speaker 1: is to have something to exterminate NonStop. It's like Chris
Speaker 1: Rocks get about medicine. You don't cure anything. They keep
Speaker 1: it going so they have an industry. Damn, damn, goddamn
Speaker 1: motherfucking boys complain nothing about that goddamn game. Tell you
Speaker 1: it's no point in getting rid of all the bugs
Speaker 1: if you're trying to make money. Wow, listen, that's devastating.
Speaker 1: If it's true, that's fucking devastating that this entire industry
Speaker 1: is built on the maintenance of keeping infestations in people's
Speaker 1: homes because that's how they make their money. I'm listen.
Speaker 1: I didn't start this podcast fully on your side, but
Speaker 1: I'm getting pretty close to it. I'm I'm coming around.
Speaker 1: Why would they not keep it going? Okay, let's take
Speaker 1: this a step back for a second, because I think
Speaker 1: this is important for for everyone to be able to
Speaker 1: make sense of all of this. Where did this come from?
Speaker 1: For you personally? Are there other people in your life
Speaker 1: who support this theory? Are you alone ranger in this fight?
Speaker 1: Where are we at having bus right? Which? Get it?
Speaker 1: You're nasty, but I'm saying, are there are there other
Speaker 1: people who you've run this past who are now on
Speaker 1: the on the bedbug conspiracy train? Literally everybody who are
Speaker 1: presented this to win? You know? Oh, is this a bit?
Speaker 1: That's what they said first, Yeah, potentially if we can
Speaker 1: workshop it. And then they went there's nothing. There's nothing
Speaker 1: to workshop because I believe it so much. It's not funny, right,
Speaker 1: They're like, look, if this is what your comedy has
Speaker 1: turned into, if you're more of a truth teller at
Speaker 1: this point, I'm off the train. I'm not. That's not
Speaker 1: the kind of comedy I'm subscribing to. So look, man,
Speaker 1: if you want to do a ted X, I'll support
Speaker 1: you in that, But what you're doing right now is
Speaker 1: just spitting them hard, real facts, and I ain't trying
Speaker 1: to hear nothing else. Tedex sounds like somebody who comes
Speaker 1: in to remove bugs, but they don't just spreading bugs.
Speaker 1: That little is either that or it's a white dude
Speaker 1: who went to one Nation of Islam meeting and uh,
Speaker 1: you felt real inspired. One more house and he's Ex
Speaker 1: also known as ted X. He just shows up like, Hey,
Speaker 1: did y'all know there's racism out here? Don't report no more?
Speaker 1: Just out of nowhere, just at the rib shop, eating sides.
Speaker 1: And honestly, it's more because it upsets his stomach than
Speaker 1: it is because he's actually passionate about like the health
Speaker 1: and rules of religion. But he's like, nah, you know,
Speaker 1: if black people said that I'm down, I'll do it.
Speaker 1: But he's wearing the same color scheme from Belly, the
Speaker 1: black white with the black tie. So you believe them,
Speaker 1: are You're like, okay, Well his life different? He don't.
Speaker 1: He don't you don't do beer cake stands no more. So.
Speaker 1: He wears a boat tie, but it's a vine your
Speaker 1: vines bow tie, and you know he ain't fully down.
Speaker 1: Before ted X says anything, he takes his glasses off
Speaker 1: points I would like apartment. Yeah, I loved TEDx. Listen.
Speaker 1: I think you're you're hitting something really important here that
Speaker 1: so many of the industries in our country, in the
Speaker 1: world are built on necessity, right that like there there
Speaker 1: is no job that can't exist without a a need,
Speaker 1: uh a want on the side of the consumer. And
Speaker 1: so with that, extermination is exactly the same, and mattresses
Speaker 1: are exactly the same. If we're not replacing our mattresses
Speaker 1: every year, then presumably these mattress companies either have to
Speaker 1: sell mattresses for insane prices, which they already do, that's
Speaker 1: already a well known fact. But then on top of that,
Speaker 1: they also have to find a way to keep refilling
Speaker 1: that consumer base, and the best way to do that
Speaker 1: is by making our mattresses fail us in various ways,
Speaker 1: potentially through infestations. Here's the thing that really sells it
Speaker 1: for me about any conspiracy period. That's what I heard,
Speaker 1: but I'm not always sure treat. And also, this is
Speaker 1: a big industry, and people are always are attempted to
Speaker 1: be nervous about exposing things. But I'm always like, even
Speaker 1: if it's true, what can I do about it? Right?
Speaker 1: That's that's the beauty of a wide sweeping plot to
Speaker 1: take advantage of everyday America. There's nothing we can do
Speaker 1: about it, even if it is true. Right, So, so
Speaker 1: to your point, when you're sort of like exposing big
Speaker 1: mattress for their ties to bed bugs, you, I guess
Speaker 1: to some extent, are admitting you're pretty weak in this.
Speaker 1: You don't have any real power to be able to
Speaker 1: stop what's happening. Nothing you can do about it. You
Speaker 1: just gotta buy a new mattress. Wow. And so do
Speaker 1: you then go and buy a new mattress? Are you
Speaker 1: then just like you just buy it begrudgingly, but you
Speaker 1: do it? Wow? That well, that just okay. Now that's
Speaker 1: upsetting me here, Clark. It feels like you, being sort
Speaker 1: of a person on the ground floor, in the bottom
Speaker 1: of the bowl, if you will, of this whole thing,
Speaker 1: would want to create a new system where we don't
Speaker 1: sleep on mattresses anymore. Now you you Japanese, Now you
Speaker 1: sleep on them weird you know floor pads that they like, Yeah,
Speaker 1: exactly like you. You. I would think that you would
Speaker 1: want to explore new options, but you're saying no, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm still fully invested in in capitalism. And all of
Speaker 1: its tricks. Who enjoys? Who? Who can go without a
Speaker 1: decent night of sleep? Who of you doesn't need to
Speaker 1: sleep well? Sure if if you can do that, especially
Speaker 1: in New York City. You've been on the train, you've
Speaker 1: been at work, You're going to open mics, you're going
Speaker 1: to two twos for a late night wrong, you're getting
Speaker 1: a drink. All these things. I'm just showing out at
Speaker 1: this point, just something very specific to you. You're over
Speaker 1: the Jeff's house. You hang out with him for about
Speaker 1: thirty five to eighty minutes, it depends if Jeff's in
Speaker 1: the mood. Then you head over to the It's Saturday,
Speaker 1: so you go by green Point and you think about
Speaker 1: taking it skateboarding class. But then you're like, come on, dog,
Speaker 1: you thirty five? What you mean skateboarding class? Get over this.
Speaker 1: It's too late, you promise yourself. So you walk back
Speaker 1: a little bit. But that Dunking Donuts is calling your name.
Speaker 1: You could just get a stale blaze, Oh ship matchup
Speaker 1: still going, No, they're done, So you scirm me around
Speaker 1: you know, some artisanal ship, and then you just that's
Speaker 1: your day. Sure, And to your point, that is a
Speaker 1: very long day. That's a an arduous day, and therefore
Speaker 1: you need a good rest at the end of that.
Speaker 1: Bad boy. Now here's my concern, and here's where I
Speaker 1: will challenge you, is that I do, in fact think
Speaker 1: that maybe there's an alternative to a good night's sleep
Speaker 1: that we haven't discovered that is sort of absent of
Speaker 1: the mattress companies. That maybe the mattress companies have a
Speaker 1: hold on our minds in a way that we don't know.
Speaker 1: We could have a good night's sleep without them. Bitches,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Okay, I would love to
Speaker 1: hear that, because it isn't even cool like in other cities.
Speaker 1: No cities where it's safe to catch some sleep on
Speaker 1: the train have a train mm hmm. All the cities
Speaker 1: that have trains, it's very unsafe to catch forty wings on.
Speaker 1: So if the conspiracy is bigger than just like mattresses,
Speaker 1: they look at every single angle like you have to
Speaker 1: get that that rest. When you get home, you can
Speaker 1: knowing you have been bugs. We are, especially in places
Speaker 1: like New York City, you are living in a sleepless
Speaker 1: prison that you are never going to be allowed to
Speaker 1: get the proper rest that you need, and so you
Speaker 1: are clinging to these mattresses because of the salvation that
Speaker 1: they offer more than just uh, they are a nice
Speaker 1: way to go to bed at night. You know the
Speaker 1: worst thing about New York City with that it's overcrowded
Speaker 1: all day year around people. Your bid is the one place,
Speaker 1: one place where you can be alone, not with bed bugs.
Speaker 1: You've got company. God damn this, well, this hurts my
Speaker 1: feelings and it makes uh, it makes me. I'm spiraling.
Speaker 1: I don't really know what to do. But we need
Speaker 1: to take a break. We're gonna take a break. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna get my ship together. Hopefully Clark's gonna keep spending
Speaker 1: that hard truth that we need and we'll be back
Speaker 1: with more Clark Jones and more. And my mama told me,
Speaker 1: and we are back. Yeah, we're back here with more
Speaker 1: of my mama told me more. Clark Jones. Were still
Speaker 1: talking about the way that Big Mattress has constructed an
Speaker 1: impossible nights rest without their involvement, and thus all of
Speaker 1: the bedbugs and pests and night ruining, evening, ruining, life
Speaker 1: ruining potentially things that they throw in the mix in
Speaker 1: our own lives. Do you think that there was like
Speaker 1: a singular meeting, Like do you think there was just
Speaker 1: a meeting of the minds where they all sat down
Speaker 1: and we're like, hey, sales are dipping across the board.
Speaker 1: We gotta do something, and then that's when the bedbugs
Speaker 1: idea came or do you think it was more like
Speaker 1: a gradual process to that. There's there's board of investors
Speaker 1: if you if you follow and find out who had
Speaker 1: when he invested in Certa and seeley and then that
Speaker 1: sh wow. So you're saying that potentially there's like, uh,
Speaker 1: there's a Jeff Bezos on the other side of this,
Speaker 1: There's a there's a Koke Brothers on the other side
Speaker 1: of whatever this is that basically is now planning growing
Speaker 1: their profits from the destruction of our lives. You don't
Speaker 1: name names per se, but I watch a lot of
Speaker 1: I watch a lot of Drill Chicago Get Back YouTube videos.
Speaker 1: So I don't name names, and it might even be
Speaker 1: names we don't even know. That's the thing about it,
Speaker 1: because there's there's a yang to being woke. You know.
Speaker 1: Beginner's like, oh man, you get the funk after protests, right,
Speaker 1: But the yang is there's nothing you can do about
Speaker 1: the thing that you're now woke about. Right. Frederick Douglas
Speaker 1: and his and his Slave Narratives talks about this a
Speaker 1: little bit where he says that the worst thing you
Speaker 1: could do to a slave is to teach them how
Speaker 1: to read, because ultimately you are enabling them to now
Speaker 1: understand the language of their imprisonment, of their slavery, as
Speaker 1: opposed to before when they're ignorant, they're trapped, but they
Speaker 1: don't quite understand what that trapped is. But now they
Speaker 1: understand every detail of that experience. And I think to
Speaker 1: your same point, once you've woken up to the fact
Speaker 1: that big mattress, once you dead, or at least once
Speaker 1: you sleepless, there's no way you can go back. That
Speaker 1: is crazy, man, That just that, just because I've always
Speaker 1: thought like that, And I didn't know me and Frederick
Speaker 1: Douglas were both geniuses. I thought it was just him.
Speaker 1: I love that, man, Damn. I didn't know Frederick Douglas
Speaker 1: was deep like me. So you mean to tell me
Speaker 1: Freddy Ducks was retweeting my thoughts before I was born.
Speaker 1: That's crazy. Oh man, Okay, that's what it is, man, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's that's a great point. Like, did you know,
Speaker 1: like the whole walker thing, this is just a sidebar,
Speaker 1: but like, um, the idea of what is it on
Speaker 1: the Walking Dead? Those are called zombies. Zombie zombies came
Speaker 1: from slaves thinking that like if they killed themselves, then
Speaker 1: they would just live forever as slaves as zombies. Wait,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, because I don't Okay, I'm listening. You're
Speaker 1: saying that the original conception of zombies came from slaves
Speaker 1: fear that in dying in slavery, they would remain slaves forever,
Speaker 1: and if they killed themselves, they would just remain as
Speaker 1: the zombie slaves forever. That was the hell they would
Speaker 1: have to be slaves. Wow, And this is this is
Speaker 1: you're saying the original zombie like that's where the whole
Speaker 1: thing came from. Whoa if true? Devastating? I don't listen.
Speaker 1: I don't have the research, and you didn't know basic
Speaker 1: Frederick Douglas quotes, so I can't trust you wholeheartedly. But
Speaker 1: that is just the idea that that's where it came from.
Speaker 1: As fucking devastating in that Yeah, to your point, it's
Speaker 1: it's we're trapped in this forever and always in a
Speaker 1: way that like it is inescapable or more more suicide
Speaker 1: would have occurred. Mm hmmm, that's how ingrained it had
Speaker 1: to be. Like why wouldn't you just say, man, this right, Like,
Speaker 1: there's no reason to stay in this life of servitude
Speaker 1: unless they can figure out a way to make you
Speaker 1: fear even leaving the worst version of this experience. Wow,
Speaker 1: all right, Wow, okay, let's get into this. We didn't
Speaker 1: even Yeah, I didn't know either, and uh not to
Speaker 1: look it up. As I'm telling you, it's all out
Speaker 1: that that was out there, so you can look that up.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, okay. Let's talk a little bit about bed
Speaker 1: bugs um and and their history, particularly in this country.
Speaker 1: Bed Bugs have apparently been around for thousands of years.
Speaker 1: There's even evidence that like the ancient Egyptians, like we're
Speaker 1: writing different stories about how to get rid of these
Speaker 1: pesky little monsters whatever. Right, so for thousands of years
Speaker 1: they bothered humans. But to your earlier point about us
Speaker 1: sort of starting to resolve the problem with bed bugs.
Speaker 1: In nineteen thirty nine, this Swiss chemist named Paul Herman
Speaker 1: Mueller discovered a pesticide called d d T which proved
Speaker 1: to be super effective against bed bugs. It was a
Speaker 1: triple H finishing move. No, not triple hs, although he
Speaker 1: did use it quite a bit, but it was a
Speaker 1: finishing move in the w W E. And then it
Speaker 1: also was apparently super effective in killing bed bugs. Uh yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: So d d T Apparently the way that it's so
Speaker 1: effective is because more than any other chemical, it has
Speaker 1: the ability to stay on surfaces for a really long time,
Speaker 1: like it linkers for a really long time, and it
Speaker 1: attacks the nervous system of the bed bugs, so it
Speaker 1: just like basically melts their fucking insides. But then in
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy two, d d T is banned in the
Speaker 1: US because apparently it also has cancer causing agents in it.
Speaker 1: It's like a carcinogen, and it becomes like this super
Speaker 1: dangerous thing for them to be uh putting in people's
Speaker 1: homes just to get rid of insects. So one of
Speaker 1: the services it could it would remain on is your loans,
Speaker 1: h right, Like you couldn't get rid of this, Yes, exactly,
Speaker 1: You're sitting in here and your bed bugs are their
Speaker 1: insides are melting, and apparently your insides are melting to
Speaker 1: just a little bit slower than the bedbug bugs. Yeah, Okay.
Speaker 1: Now here's where your your suggestion starts to get really interesting,
Speaker 1: because even after nineteen seventy two, there's not like immediately
Speaker 1: this massive outbreak of bed bugs. Once we start banning
Speaker 1: d d T, right, it more or less kind of
Speaker 1: stays under control until around the nineteen eight mid nineteen
Speaker 1: eighties to mid nineteen nineties. But and then this is
Speaker 1: where it really gets interesting. In the in the year
Speaker 1: two thousand, there's this massive uptick in people claiming to
Speaker 1: have bed bugs because and this is the claim, is
Speaker 1: that there is now a d d T resistant strain
Speaker 1: of bed bugs that suddenly pops up out of nowhere.
Speaker 1: Bad bugs just suddenly are no longer allergic to the
Speaker 1: thing that otherwise kills humans and everything else, this thing
Speaker 1: that was killing humans out of nowhere, the strained of
Speaker 1: it that you can't kill that, like, humans, stop taking
Speaker 1: this or you're dying. But the bad bugs like, are
Speaker 1: we back? Yep? The bad bugs are like, no, we're good.
Speaker 1: Give me a big old tall glass of d d T.
Speaker 1: I I don't feel nothing, just chugging. What is this?
Speaker 1: What is d d T stand for delicious, delicious tasty?
Speaker 1: Because that's how I'm that I'm drinking it. I love
Speaker 1: it this drank. I can't think of a T at two,
Speaker 1: but this drank turned I'm a bad bug that talk
Speaker 1: like uh talk like the year sixteen and I love this. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So the bed bugs apparently are now suddenly not allergic
Speaker 1: to the d d T. And here's where it starts
Speaker 1: to get this. This part turned me off and I'd
Speaker 1: love to get your thoughts on this. One of the
Speaker 1: reasons that they claim, or possible reasons that they claim
Speaker 1: that these bad bugs are suddenly becoming uh DDT resistant
Speaker 1: is that they may have come over from Africa, that
Speaker 1: they were sort of these Africanized bed bugs that then
Speaker 1: show up to America and now our d d T. Uh.
Speaker 1: They're too strong. They're stronger than the average bed bug.
Speaker 1: And that's when that's when I really started believing this.
Speaker 1: When that when the when the thing turns to is
Speaker 1: Africa they came. That's when I know a white man
Speaker 1: did it. That's that's that I was like in ninety
Speaker 1: seven percent. Now I'm at like night because as soon
Speaker 1: as it was he came from Africa, they ain't nobody
Speaker 1: going over there to find out. You know what, I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like all the storm the tornadoes come from Africa, Like
Speaker 1: come on, man, yeah, yeah, yeah, they It bugs me
Speaker 1: whenever they start suggesting that, like the entire continent of
Speaker 1: Africa is servicing up these like more power for more
Speaker 1: dangerous versions of the things that we have in America.
Speaker 1: The African eyes. B it's not a it's not a
Speaker 1: more dangerous be It's just a bee with a vengeance
Speaker 1: that you that you brought over here, white devil that
Speaker 1: you introduced to your America and now you're sitting here
Speaker 1: resentful that you didn't leave the motherfucker alone. Just leave
Speaker 1: it alone. I mean, after all this time, like it's
Speaker 1: white folks who went over there too, Like, but you
Speaker 1: say it's from Africa, and people just assume it's from Africa,
Speaker 1: right that that it is Africa's fault, when in fact,
Speaker 1: in more cases than not, it is the white man's
Speaker 1: fault for traveling to a space that was not his
Speaker 1: and bringing back something that again did not belong to him.
Speaker 1: Sierra Leone is a French name, no Nigga's name, Sierra
Speaker 1: Leone exactly, and one of the things one of the
Speaker 1: things that they argue for these bed bugs and for
Speaker 1: The reason that these Africanized or foreign bed bugs sort
Speaker 1: of make it to the US is that in the
Speaker 1: eighties and nineties there is this massive uptick in national
Speaker 1: and international travel by airplane, and so it's part of
Speaker 1: the reason that we're getting these different species and strains
Speaker 1: of these these insects traveling to different places is because
Speaker 1: somebody goes to let's say, Sierra Leone, they hang out there,
Speaker 1: and then they come back with now a different type
Speaker 1: of bedbug, one that has built up a resistance to
Speaker 1: d d T, largely because they're using in in Africa,
Speaker 1: they're using mosquito nets that are laced with a different
Speaker 1: type of protection of chemicals that basically built a strength
Speaker 1: in the bed bugs that live over there. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: wish I could go find out, you know what I'm saying, like, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but there's no way. Who got time? Who got time
Speaker 1: to find Yeah? Yeah, this further is my point, right,
Speaker 1: I think So, I think it's it's definitely not hurting
Speaker 1: what you're what you're building here. There's also an argument
Speaker 1: that bed bugs over the years, through evolution, have built
Speaker 1: up a thicker exo skeleton that because they're exo skeleton,
Speaker 1: they're outside shell is getting harder and thicker. It is
Speaker 1: making it harder for these chemicals that otherwise would have
Speaker 1: killed them to penetrate their exo skeleton and thus melt
Speaker 1: up their insides. But they're so tiny mm hmm. They're
Speaker 1: like if they're living breathing organism, and these things can
Speaker 1: harm us to that to to murder us. Yep, I
Speaker 1: mean the droplets are bigger than the bad bugs. Sure,
Speaker 1: I'm listening. I'm not sure what point you're making, but
Speaker 1: I'm you know, what I'm saying is it ain't like
Speaker 1: if it's like if it's there, it's being breathed them,
Speaker 1: and you're this big. I don't give a funk how
Speaker 1: big is a shell? Is there a shell over your nose?
Speaker 1: If you have a living breathing organism, it's going into
Speaker 1: your system, right, And so one of the things that
Speaker 1: they're saying is that, uh and and this goes to
Speaker 1: your earlier point, right. And this is where the research
Speaker 1: I think really takes a turn in your favor, is
Speaker 1: that if in keep in mind, so much of it
Speaker 1: already has, but a multimillion dollar industry is born from
Speaker 1: bedbug prevention that isn't d d T. The one thing
Speaker 1: that they could confirm was capable of killing bedbugs is
Speaker 1: now taken out. But then all these other industries are
Speaker 1: born where they start to convince people that if you
Speaker 1: buy this product, or if you invest in this thing,
Speaker 1: or if you replace this thing with this thing you said,
Speaker 1: Lee can get rid of these bed bugs. And this
Speaker 1: goes to your original idea that there's no way that
Speaker 1: they can actually confirm a lot of the things that
Speaker 1: they're saying are killing the bed bugs in fact are
Speaker 1: killing the bed bugs even with all this information that
Speaker 1: you know, if you had a bed bug right now,
Speaker 1: would you buy a new man? If I had one
Speaker 1: right this second, would you buy a new mattress? It's tough, man. Listen,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest with you. It's pretty tough, and
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna get into some reasons why right now.
Speaker 1: But it's some of what I found is pretty devastating.
Speaker 1: So here's the reality with bed bugs. The reason they're
Speaker 1: so difficult to kill is because number one, they lay
Speaker 1: dormant for long periods, sometimes months, right and then on
Speaker 1: top of that, they only come out during certain hours
Speaker 1: in the night. Okay, so the bedbug can like lay
Speaker 1: in the middle of your mattress undetected for a really
Speaker 1: long time and you'll never catch it. So in theory,
Speaker 1: if I find a bed bug, I have to presume
Speaker 1: that my mattress could potentially be infested. Now I could
Speaker 1: take the time, because they do say that there are
Speaker 1: ways to kill bedbugs, right that, like through heat and
Speaker 1: through uh suffocation and all the different things that you
Speaker 1: can do to get rid of these bedbugs. I could
Speaker 1: presume that maybe I do the work to get rid
Speaker 1: of them, or I could presume that I go to
Speaker 1: a mattress company and ask them to replace it. To
Speaker 1: your earlier point. Though, there's now something in dealing with
Speaker 1: the mattress companies where they pretty much are pretty open
Speaker 1: that like recycling. I think they call it, like mattress
Speaker 1: rejuvenation or some ship is a fully real thing that
Speaker 1: like a reconditioned mattress is something that they basically claim
Speaker 1: is something you you know, they stripped down and they
Speaker 1: sterilize and they repurpose and sell to consumers and you
Speaker 1: buy it knowing it's a reconditioned mattress. But they keep
Speaker 1: those mattresses in the exact same places that they keep
Speaker 1: new mattresses it's not as if like this is kept
Speaker 1: in a separate area. So in theory, if these products
Speaker 1: are as ineffective as they seem to be at killing
Speaker 1: off the insect that is so hard to kill, in
Speaker 1: buying a new mattress, I am simply reinvesting in a
Speaker 1: new bedbug infestation, which I don't need. I'll go with
Speaker 1: the ones I know. I'm just imagining Scrooge McDuck swimming
Speaker 1: in bed bugless money. Yes, he re sells you at
Speaker 1: the higher price the mattress you used to have. It's
Speaker 1: it's devastating. There's an article I read that was on
Speaker 1: NBC News where they basically tracked this mattress company as
Speaker 1: they picked up a bunch of mattresses that were on
Speaker 1: the street, and before they picked up the mattresses, they
Speaker 1: checked each mattress for bed bugs. Found that one of
Speaker 1: the nine of them that they watched, these this mattress
Speaker 1: company pick up did in fact have a bedbug infestation.
Speaker 1: They put it in the exact same pile as the
Speaker 1: other mattresses. So maybe they did in fact sterilize this
Speaker 1: and break it down and do everything they could to
Speaker 1: get rid of it. But the point that NBC news
Speaker 1: was making, and sort of the science behind it is
Speaker 1: there's no way of a percent guaranteeing that you fully
Speaker 1: have gotten rid of these things without like like cracking
Speaker 1: the motherfucker open and like picking it out one by
Speaker 1: one and so like, you don't know, you know what
Speaker 1: else business thrive about this big as plastic rep Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: you had to wrap it before you consider it outside exactly.
Speaker 1: And that's one of the things that they talk about
Speaker 1: as like part of this multimillion dollar industry that that
Speaker 1: came out of bed bugs. It's it's plastic wraps that
Speaker 1: they claim can keep bed bugs from penetrating your mattress.
Speaker 1: But one of the things that scientists say is that
Speaker 1: bed bugs don't actually need to be in soft surfaces.
Speaker 1: It's it's a ruse that they're selling you that like, oh,
Speaker 1: if you cover your mattress, you'll be straight, when in fact,
Speaker 1: bed bugs can live in the cracks in your walls,
Speaker 1: they can live in the cracks in your mattresses, they
Speaker 1: can live in literally the cracks of the foundation of
Speaker 1: your floor. So even if you're able to get rid
Speaker 1: of the bed bugs on your surface, you can't guarantee
Speaker 1: you've gotten rid of them from your home entirely, or
Speaker 1: even worse, from the entirety of your apartment building. And
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't speak to the intellect of bed bugs, right,
Speaker 1: and I can't imagine them on the bed and they
Speaker 1: see you struggling mightily to wrap with that big as
Speaker 1: m hmm, classic wrap and they just go there like DAMG,
Speaker 1: I wonder what's gonna happen with that? Oh, they go
Speaker 1: back into the crack until that new matches come in,
Speaker 1: unless you fumigate, unless ted X comes to your apartment
Speaker 1: and sprays the cracks or whatever. Ain' saying they all crooked.
Speaker 1: You're saying that's one point of injury. I totally agree.
Speaker 1: Here's another scary thing that I think you brought up
Speaker 1: earlier was about the uptick that people saw in terms
Speaker 1: of pest management. So a recent bed bug pest control survey,
Speaker 1: this is them surveying the people who are in charge
Speaker 1: of pest control where they can. It was conducted by
Speaker 1: the National Pest Management Association, the mp m A. Apparently
Speaker 1: it's a real thing, but they found that bedbug infestation
Speaker 1: in the United States continued at a high at high rates,
Speaker 1: with nine seven percent of pest control professionals having treated
Speaker 1: for bed bugs in the past year, and that number
Speaker 1: is significantly higher than fifteen years ago, when it was
Speaker 1: only twenty a pest control professionals saying that they had
Speaker 1: treated bed bugs in the past year. So it went
Speaker 1: from twenty five to nineties seven in fifteen years. I'm no,
Speaker 1: I'm but if my bank account went from to ninety seven, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm worried about bucks no more. Sure you got that money,
Speaker 1: got them? Got the Upper East album, We got that
Speaker 1: Jamaican anybody you got that? And now and now your
Speaker 1: kid has a weird accident. This is what we're all
Speaker 1: striving for. This is the America that capitalism builds. This
Speaker 1: is the danger that we're fighting against. Is potentially big
Speaker 1: Mattress and all of the corruption that they've cooked up
Speaker 1: that affects our entire lives, not just the ones that
Speaker 1: we we can see on the surface. If you will, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: let me hit you with one last little piece of
Speaker 1: information that blew my mind. One of the things that
Speaker 1: they specifically say about these pest management companies and sort
Speaker 1: of the bullshit that they're able to cook up around
Speaker 1: bad bugs is because they can't guarantee that they're getting
Speaker 1: rid of them. They start to offer all of these
Speaker 1: alternatives for getting rid of them. So one of the
Speaker 1: things that they started cooking up is, like we talked
Speaker 1: about the mattress covers. Another thing was bed bugs. Sniffing
Speaker 1: dogs is apparently a thing now, where like they say
Speaker 1: that like they can train dogs to sniff out bed
Speaker 1: bugs in your home or in your mattress. But I
Speaker 1: started thinking, all right, if I'm a pest control company,
Speaker 1: either I number one, get a dog and train it
Speaker 1: to always smell bed bugs, whether they're there or they're not,
Speaker 1: because then I get to fumigate and charge you extra money.
Speaker 1: Or alternatively, I get a dog that can't smell shit
Speaker 1: and charge you for bringing the dog in. And then
Speaker 1: the dog was like, I don't know, I don't smell nothing,
Speaker 1: and then you just stick with bed bugs and I
Speaker 1: still have to come and fumigate later. Or the dog okay,
Speaker 1: it's a dog sniffing that dog killing uh huh. So
Speaker 1: so you know the dog just like, yeah, got big bucks.
Speaker 1: You're like, yeah, so okay, do something. I got fleas,
Speaker 1: So yeah, now player, I got my own problems. Matter
Speaker 1: of fact, you got fleas down too. Hey player, I
Speaker 1: ain't gonna lie to you. You got some more problems
Speaker 1: that you go. I have to deal with because I
Speaker 1: got I got bad news, and I got worse news.
Speaker 1: The bad news is the bites on your face are
Speaker 1: a bad Bucks. The good news or the worst news
Speaker 1: is you're gonna have some other bites on your face
Speaker 1: be bad bucks, They're gonna be something else. The terrible
Speaker 1: news is I gotta go shaking out fleas. And the
Speaker 1: heartbreaking news is I can't be here no more. Man.
Speaker 1: My owners said, I gotta get up out of here.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonnall ad you good luck with your little
Speaker 1: infestation wolf wolf and all that piece out? Which which
Speaker 1: way is that decap? I got to go. I love
Speaker 1: that the dog can sniff out bad bugs, but you
Speaker 1: don't know which way the dick alp to stop it?
Speaker 1: The misdirection. It's too hard. You don't known. Man. Here's
Speaker 1: the last little bit that I'll give you. And this
Speaker 1: heart made me feel especially sad is that more often
Speaker 1: than not, when bed bugs are biting, when they're actually
Speaker 1: like fucking people up with like those sort of infamous
Speaker 1: bedbug bites that you see all over people's bodies and
Speaker 1: faces that is in fact coming from an a allergic reaction.
Speaker 1: That bed bug bites themselves don't show up very well
Speaker 1: the first couple of rounds for for the average person
Speaker 1: who isn't allergic to bed bugs. And so in a
Speaker 1: lot of cases, people can have bedbugs and never know it,
Speaker 1: or at least not know it for a very long
Speaker 1: time because they're not having an allergic reaction into the bites.
Speaker 1: So we all might have them. They might just all
Speaker 1: the little good night, let don't let the bad bugs,
Speaker 1: might might just be part of the deal good sorry,
Speaker 1: so genetically like you're not even aware because you're not
Speaker 1: allergic to him and I had it' isn't that crazy?
Speaker 1: Between nineteen five I heard nothing of bad bugs from
Speaker 1: from me hearing that song as a child, as a toddler.
Speaker 1: Twenty it took twenty more years for it to return. Coincidence,
Speaker 1: I think, I think by your argument, it is in
Speaker 1: fact not a coincidence, and big bad bug is behind
Speaker 1: this whole thing, and it's ultimately ruining our world. It's
Speaker 1: ruining everything. It was a sad time in Brooklyn, man,
Speaker 1: because that's all people talked about. But then nobody wants
Speaker 1: to talk about it because as you called, you call
Speaker 1: me dirt. Yes, Yes, the shame, it's it's a very
Speaker 1: shameful thing. And everything that I read is is it
Speaker 1: says how important that shame is in selling these products,
Speaker 1: that it's always about discretion and keeping things quiet. And
Speaker 1: even though they can't prove that these products work, people
Speaker 1: grapple onto grabbing and buying these products because of the
Speaker 1: possibility that maybe if I spread this stuff, or maybe
Speaker 1: if I fumiligate this way, or if I get you
Speaker 1: know this seat this dog who don't speak English to
Speaker 1: come into my home and sniff them out, I can
Speaker 1: avoid the shame of people realizing I am, in fact
Speaker 1: a bedbug owner. Dude. The biggest people hoardering light, soul
Speaker 1: and anti and disinfectant stuff. We're people who call COVID
Speaker 1: of hoax. Yep, it's like COVID to hoax. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: it's people who don't think that, and I know how
Speaker 1: to take advantage of it. M h. There it is.
Speaker 1: This is all just a big scheme. We're gonna take
Speaker 1: one more break. We'll be back with more Clark Jones
Speaker 1: and more. My mama told me, and we are bad. Yeah,
Speaker 1: We're back here with more like Jones, more of my
Speaker 1: mama told me. We're unpacking the way that capitalism has
Speaker 1: strategized ways to ruin every part of our lives, including
Speaker 1: our sleep. And now we're gonna play a game, Clark.
Speaker 1: This is this is a fun game. I'm gonna introduce
Speaker 1: to you a very fun game that I think you're
Speaker 1: gonna enjoy. Its call white lies. Ugly. You're disgusting. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna kill you. Give me two hundred dollars. Okay, white lies.
Speaker 1: It's a very fun game in which I am going
Speaker 1: to introduce to you a traditional white conspiracy, one that
Speaker 1: white people have supported to some degree for years now.
Speaker 1: And I would love for you to unpack why you
Speaker 1: think this conspiracy is so important to white people. What
Speaker 1: do you think they're holding onto? What are these sneaky
Speaker 1: motherfucker's up to? Do you know what I'm saying? Okay,
Speaker 1: hell yeah, your conspiracy today. And this is my first
Speaker 1: time hearing this one, but it's very exciting for me.
Speaker 1: Your conspiracy today, uh comes from the movie Frozen. The
Speaker 1: movie Frozen is where your conspiracy lives. But apparently there
Speaker 1: are some people who believe I'm sure you've heard this before,
Speaker 1: that that uh, Walt Disney froze his head, right that
Speaker 1: when he when he died. There's a theory that Walt
Speaker 1: Disney may have froken, had his head cryogenically frozen, so
Speaker 1: that he could he could ring himself back in the
Speaker 1: future at some point. Right. There are some people who
Speaker 1: believe that the movie Frozen is in fact just a big,
Speaker 1: a big ruse. It was written just as a way
Speaker 1: to throw off the algorithm on Google, so that when
Speaker 1: you type in Disney Frozen, the first thing that pops
Speaker 1: up is not Walt Disney's frozen head. But it's in
Speaker 1: fact this now multibillion dollar film and and subsidies and
Speaker 1: all the things that were born out of it. My
Speaker 1: question for you is why do you think white people
Speaker 1: are so invested in this conspiracy? Well? Can I say
Speaker 1: a couple of things. First, Yes, this is probably true.
Speaker 1: You gotta say why. You can't just leave it at that.
Speaker 1: Ted Williams is crogenically frozen. M hmmm. The baseball player, um, Boston,
Speaker 1: where you have spent a lot of time. I thought
Speaker 1: you're gonna say where you're from, and I was gonna
Speaker 1: fistfight you VI where you learn how to do comedy.
Speaker 1: I don't. It's hard to say. Let me just say
Speaker 1: to the white people who are holding onto this, like,
Speaker 1: you don't need to freeze walk Disney like his racism
Speaker 1: is alive and well there's no there's no need. It's
Speaker 1: like they're freezing them to say, oh, just in case
Speaker 1: we run out of racism. Oh, nobody imagined racism the
Speaker 1: way that Walt Disney him. He had a whimsical approach
Speaker 1: makes it enjoyable. He wrote songs, He turned Mickey Mouse
Speaker 1: into a caricature, did like it's it's fine, it's on
Speaker 1: break part, it's on that new the racist Twitter. If
Speaker 1: you holding onto it, you don't have to, it's it's fine.
Speaker 1: It's well, so yeah, I think that's why they like,
Speaker 1: just like whenever we just need man me, I'm sure
Speaker 1: is somewhere is somebody locker literally right. So, so to
Speaker 1: your point, this is them holding onto the whimsy of
Speaker 1: like an antiquated racism and the belief that frozen was
Speaker 1: somehow a protection against that is really just adding to
Speaker 1: the mystique of Walt Disney and his his brilliance that like,
Speaker 1: oh he planned that you know, eventually people would know
Speaker 1: that his head was frozen and they would have to
Speaker 1: protect his his identity or protect his choice via this film.
Speaker 1: There's got to be a study on how many pages
Speaker 1: deep people go on Google searches. Oh, it's gotta be
Speaker 1: like on average people. I think I've at most, I've
Speaker 1: gone to like the eighth thing age, Well you've gone
Speaker 1: crazy D. That is deep, right, Yeah, that's what I thought,
Speaker 1: Like eight pages is kind of I forgot what it
Speaker 1: was for, but it was. Oh, I mean, you could
Speaker 1: say it's born, this ain't a family show. You could
Speaker 1: just say there's a there's a specific set of titties
Speaker 1: that I I remember and I would love to see again.
Speaker 1: Adam twenty two from the No Jumper podcast got a
Speaker 1: video They used to be readily available. All of a sudden,
Speaker 1: every fucking everybody deleted it. It can't be found. You
Speaker 1: can't even buy it. That's how that it is. So
Speaker 1: I went a pages D and I still can't find it.
Speaker 1: So I think, like, if you type Disney frozen by
Speaker 1: the ninth page, you should come up with something or
Speaker 1: just skip to three. Sure, I think, and this is
Speaker 1: what pr people are constantly. This is the whole point
Speaker 1: of their job is that the Google algorithm. Actually, they
Speaker 1: say that at the point that it's on the second page,
Speaker 1: it no longer is an issue for people that like,
Speaker 1: literally nobody goes past the first page for their Google searches.
Speaker 1: So what you really want is to just get the
Speaker 1: ship off the front page, and you're pretty much good
Speaker 1: no matter what it is, including, you know, freezing your
Speaker 1: head or forcefully coming on a lady in a way
Speaker 1: that she didn't want to, whatever it may be. What
Speaker 1: if what if Love Disney's head was one of the
Speaker 1: fake audiences, like the NBA bubble. This is the ABC
Speaker 1: partnership that they agreed to. You're gonna have to put
Speaker 1: the froze a head front round, saluting Hitler, drawing, doing
Speaker 1: all types of crazy walk duds and stuff. I would
Speaker 1: love it if the frozen Walt Disney head was sitting
Speaker 1: right next to Barack Obama when they forced him to
Speaker 1: like give a motivational speech in the middle of the
Speaker 1: NBA bubble where he was like, hey, by the way,
Speaker 1: remember the vote fellas and shocks, sitting there nodding like
Speaker 1: he didn't understand what they time. He's underneath the Black
Speaker 1: Lives Matter symbol just put just Walt Disney, he didin't
Speaker 1: got no fingers, but he wants to flick you off.
Speaker 1: You better believe you can get right. He's just sticking
Speaker 1: his tongue out at Black Lives Matter pin in hand.
Speaker 1: But just listen. I believe now. I'm I'm sold that
Speaker 1: Walt Disney froze and said too, You're good at conspiracy theories. Clark.
Speaker 1: You did it. You really nailed being a psychopath with me.
Speaker 1: And I appreciate that. I'm in the basement. Hell yeah,
Speaker 1: so that part this was beautiful. Could you tell the
Speaker 1: people at home where they can find you what cool
Speaker 1: ship you have going on? Do I want it to
Speaker 1: after this? Uh? At the Clark Jones t e Clark
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Speaker 1: if you have any additional conspiracy theories, if you have
Speaker 1: any voicemails that you would like to send us, you
Speaker 1: can send all of that to my mama pod at
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Speaker 1: And uh yeah, by Chips, racist money can't tell me