WEBVTT - Bed Bugs & Beyond (with Clark Jones)

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<v Speaker 1>I had no idea. Fred to Blackness said that, and

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<v Speaker 1>I wont every Black History munch for at my church

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<v Speaker 1>when I was twin Well, your church was trashed. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>start there. Your church wasn't doing good Black history and

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<v Speaker 1>they weren't incorporating the Texas. It's the same Martin Luther

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<v Speaker 1>King speech every year. But I'll be honest, they weren't

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<v Speaker 1>doing enough. And that's on you. That's on you, That's

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<v Speaker 1>on the church that you belong. My chips in your

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<v Speaker 1>us racist also money, many stuff I can't tell me.

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<v Speaker 1>Bang bang bang, skeet, skeet skeet. The area is Ladies

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<v Speaker 1>and gentlemen, Welcome to another phenomenon devastating episode of My

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<v Speaker 1>Mama Told Me, the podcast where we dive deep, deep

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<v Speaker 1>into the conspiracies of the black community and we finally

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<v Speaker 1>worked to prove that Irma Pete Hall may have lost

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<v Speaker 1>her leg in the movie So Food, but I assure

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<v Speaker 1>you ain't. Nothing happened to that ass. You're sitting on

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<v Speaker 1>something sturdy, big Mama, and I want to eat mac

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<v Speaker 1>and cheese off of it every Sunday. That's right, Irma

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<v Speaker 1>pe Hall, come and find me, sweetheart. I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 1>see what that meat do. It's meat. Your host leg

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<v Speaker 1>stan kermy the man yelling sexual comments that irma pe Hall.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm into. You should know that about me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very excited today our guests. A phenomenal comedian, a

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<v Speaker 1>dear friend, a man who I've known longer than almost

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<v Speaker 1>anybody I can think of in my my journey as

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<v Speaker 1>a comedian. He was one of the first comedians I

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<v Speaker 1>ever met. He hysterically, you know I'm from Comedy Central.

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<v Speaker 1>You know I'm from r I P That NBC. Uh

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<v Speaker 1>what was that ship? Go? Well, what is it not

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<v Speaker 1>Quimby the one before? Yeah, see so r I PC. So,

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<v Speaker 1>But goddamn did he have a funny set on there

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<v Speaker 1>that NBC couldn't maintain because they didn't invest right in

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<v Speaker 1>to see so? But this motherfucker's funniest shit. A dear friend.

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<v Speaker 1>Give it up for Clark Jones, everybody that's up for

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<v Speaker 1>everybody were here. Don't be bad that Chicago got to promote.

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<v Speaker 1>I got to entro myself. Yeah, my credit was a defunct.

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<v Speaker 1>My credit was a worst version of Quimby. Well that's

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<v Speaker 1>not true. See so I had a lot of good

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<v Speaker 1>things that they just didn't give a funk about and

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<v Speaker 1>uh let die. Yeah it was. It was ran by NBC.

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<v Speaker 1>I wish NBC knew about see so that I wish

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<v Speaker 1>they knew, Like there's like see so it was like

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<v Speaker 1>some money they found in the couch. Oh that's ours.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh oh oh ship. We were supposed to be in

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<v Speaker 1>charge of that. Wait wait us, NBCTV the thing Bill

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<v Speaker 1>cos you tried to buy Okay, all right, and now

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<v Speaker 1>I see maybe we were responsible for his downfall. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>this whole thing was right. Bill didn't like that. I mean, damn,

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<v Speaker 1>we need this. We need another reboot. We need this

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<v Speaker 1>Cheers reboot to pop. We needed money for that. We

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<v Speaker 1>have to drop C so we had to drop it.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you, dude? Man, I'm never as good as

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<v Speaker 1>I say that I am on the podcast. Sure, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what. Let me say this. I appreciate your

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<v Speaker 1>your transparency in this. A lot of people are like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm great, and it's like, no, you're not. You're crumbling inside.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm never I mean even more so today. I had

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<v Speaker 1>a terrible experience this morning, and I'm just it's one

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<v Speaker 1>of those things that I took care of. But just

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<v Speaker 1>because you put the fire out. That don't mean it

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<v Speaker 1>didn't cause damage. Right, I'm dealing with that. But I'm here.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad to be here, glad to be talking to

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<v Speaker 1>you man, and not a complete stranger. Hell yeah on

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast saying I'm great. If if you were a stranger,

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<v Speaker 1>I would be like, I'm great, man, Let's do it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm excited. Yeah, And it was me. You're like, hey man,

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<v Speaker 1>things are crumbling, but tell you a little jokes. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>let's get to it. This is just a FaceTime that

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<v Speaker 1>uh that we haven't that's recorded with a secret person. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm excited, if nothing else, to get into your conspiracy theory,

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<v Speaker 1>because very rarely on this podcast does somebody come to

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<v Speaker 1>me with a conspiracy theory. I've never heard of before

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<v Speaker 1>in my life. This is a brand new one to me,

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<v Speaker 1>and not in a bad way. I'm it's one that

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<v Speaker 1>I heard and I was like, I don't know, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>quite possibly. I'm listening, and I want to make it clear.

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<v Speaker 1>You said, my mama told me the mattress industry intentionally

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<v Speaker 1>introduced a bad Bucks outbreak in order to sell more mattresses.

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<v Speaker 1>You nailed it, that's it, Yes, tell me more. Where

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<v Speaker 1>does this come from where what I lived in New

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<v Speaker 1>York from through ten nineteen, and when we moved there,

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<v Speaker 1>there was no outbreak and about they were just everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>And then they went from New York and all of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden it was across the country. And then we

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<v Speaker 1>just stopped hearing about it. And I would go to

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<v Speaker 1>Times Square and I would just see, like why is

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<v Speaker 1>like the mattress company like Prime real estate elevators like

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<v Speaker 1>Red Carpet, and they just kept popping up. They kept

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<v Speaker 1>popping because you know, you take advantage, Like I think

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<v Speaker 1>O c D is one of the biggest affliction that

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<v Speaker 1>it's taking advantage of people who like, oh that has

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<v Speaker 1>a spect of earth, Let's get it out of here.

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<v Speaker 1>The bugs motherfucker's was like you go up and down Brooklyn,

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<v Speaker 1>you just saw poorly plastic wrapped mattresses all of the

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<v Speaker 1>down Pulsey Avenue. It wasn't just the big companies like

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<v Speaker 1>you you walk down the block in a little march

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<v Speaker 1>like one um, I forget the name of it, but like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>just all these little shops was just open. That's interesting. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>You're you're digging into two things that I think are

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<v Speaker 1>are really important here Number one, How the fuck does

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<v Speaker 1>a mattress company get real estate in times squared? Like,

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<v Speaker 1>what did y'all do that made it that you could

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<v Speaker 1>be next to the eminem store Square mattresses? Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>go to a nick game, didn't get a seey postopedic

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<v Speaker 1>was just there's something off here, There's something something isn't

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<v Speaker 1>And so to that point, maybe there's a possibility that

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<v Speaker 1>this is, uh the way that somebody's washing their money.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe this is a big wealthy person who is figuring

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<v Speaker 1>out a way to clean up the otherwise corrupt money

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<v Speaker 1>that they bring in. Or these companies are figuring out

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<v Speaker 1>a way to get money where in places and in

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<v Speaker 1>ways that maybe are normal for regular mattress companies. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>you know, people needing a new mattress, you do that

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<v Speaker 1>whatevery like five to ten years tops broadcast comics having

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<v Speaker 1>like it wasn't even like, oh this is extra money,

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<v Speaker 1>Like no, I got to get because not only the infestation,

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<v Speaker 1>the stigma, right, And I lived in a bowl in Bushwick,

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<v Speaker 1>Like bushw Week is built like a bowl, And yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I was wondering why we were able to afford it

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<v Speaker 1>is because we lived at the bottom of a bowl.

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<v Speaker 1>So whenever range, and it stormed a lot. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>even storm know it stormed that much in New York.

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<v Speaker 1>But everybody's insects, dirt, whatever, slid down to the bottom

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<v Speaker 1>of the boat and the basement in Bushwick with no windows.

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<v Speaker 1>You were literally the lowest point of Bushwick. We were

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<v Speaker 1>that that last that last Oreo cookie Cereal, the last

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<v Speaker 1>soggy one that was that was you, And therefore you

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<v Speaker 1>were getting the runoff of everybody else's ship. Think of it, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like a Cereal boat, like that last Captain crunch as

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<v Speaker 1>all the cherry, the crunch berry read all over it.

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<v Speaker 1>That was our apartment. So we got flooded, we got

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<v Speaker 1>big bugs, and I had to get into mattress. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and so naturally you went to a place to buy

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<v Speaker 1>a new mattress post bed bugs p B D or

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<v Speaker 1>p B B pete what is it? But you go,

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<v Speaker 1>you get this new mattress, and do they try to

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<v Speaker 1>upsell you? Are they like then like, hey, you need

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<v Speaker 1>this bad bug resistant mattress. I had no idea what

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<v Speaker 1>it would even cost. So yeah, I mean, like, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't if if the demand went up, then the price

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<v Speaker 1>go up. It wasn't even it was the mattress. And

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<v Speaker 1>it was like, oh and you need this special. You

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<v Speaker 1>need a big cover, you know, a mattress. Uh cover

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<v Speaker 1>too because then the bad bugs then they go like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh man, you should protect it. We can get it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh mantel supposed to get in there. We got we

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<v Speaker 1>need we need indoor. They just they got us on

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<v Speaker 1>the outside of the bed. That's not good. And they

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<v Speaker 1>like that. And you know what you else saw? What

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<v Speaker 1>else you saw on the telephone poles, like the big

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<v Speaker 1>thing you see when you see like bad bug. We

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<v Speaker 1>take care of bid bugs, cocoa dog just like everywhere

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<v Speaker 1>everywhere you went, and you saw that, and like the

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<v Speaker 1>Dollar store had to praise so like in front of

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<v Speaker 1>the store. It used to be to your point, there

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<v Speaker 1>there starts to become a thriving industry around bedbugs. Anything

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<v Speaker 1>bad but related was selling it. And and in your

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<v Speaker 1>mind based on your conspiracy, because I do think and

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<v Speaker 1>and let's clarify this is something you genuinely believe. Okay, cool,

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<v Speaker 1>you said it in a very matter of fact way,

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<v Speaker 1>like what kind of fool would ask that kind of question?

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<v Speaker 1>And I will for our listeners at home, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to be clear. Yeah, the fool. The fool who believes

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<v Speaker 1>it is Clark. The question is always why wouldn't they Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>now I'm listening because that's how they get you. I

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<v Speaker 1>I hear you. That is how they get you. That's

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<v Speaker 1>how they get you. But okay, so what you're saying

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<v Speaker 1>is is that somewhere along the lines, this outbreak happens,

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<v Speaker 1>and in your mind, the big mattress, the mattress industry,

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<v Speaker 1>knows that they can gain resources from this whole experience.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess my question for you is do you believe

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<v Speaker 1>that this mattress industry created the outbreak to start off?

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<v Speaker 1>That they are the ones that incited the outbreak. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>the thing. I think people took advantage of it, and yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I do think this was intentional. Wow. Yes, So like

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<v Speaker 1>Dr Seeley of Seeley Post repeated Mr Alvin certa recast

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<v Speaker 1>was now whenever they were doing to get rid of

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<v Speaker 1>bad bugs because they're like, oh, dirty motherfucker's just started

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<v Speaker 1>coming to New York and right they didn't start how

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<v Speaker 1>to getting through Now they stronger coming from coming from

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<v Speaker 1>the old country. No disrespect, no disrespect to all my

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<v Speaker 1>older listeners who might have come from the old country. Country.

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<v Speaker 1>I just mean to state the ferry. Did they hop

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<v Speaker 1>off the ferry and decide like, oh this is nice?

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<v Speaker 1>Did they just take their way to Brooklyn? Like no,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's such a commuter city. Yang, how come I

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<v Speaker 1>could go to the Upper east Side and it wasn't crazy? Right? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>to that point, we're all constantly on trains, were all

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<v Speaker 1>constantly bumping up against each other. In theory. If I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sitting at home with bad bugs, so should this uh

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<v Speaker 1>this Upper east Side, Max Sinista, if you will? And

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<v Speaker 1>instead she's not getting it, But I am every man

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<v Speaker 1>on the Upper east Side come from Crown Heights. Mhmm,

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<v Speaker 1>so the ones I would let watch kid? Right, If

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<v Speaker 1>your nanny ain't Jamaican, what did you even do this for? What?

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<v Speaker 1>What are you in the game for? If you ain't

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get a Jamaican woman to raise your children, You

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<v Speaker 1>might as well live in Brooklyn. You might as well

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<v Speaker 1>live there. Ye from there, you might as well live there.

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<v Speaker 1>You might be there. You should be a name if

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<v Speaker 1>if you're Jamaican. I love that. I love that line

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<v Speaker 1>of Jeff Foxworthy jokes where he's just like, you should

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<v Speaker 1>be a Jamaican living in Brooklyn you might be a

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<v Speaker 1>Jamaican nanny if you to grammars. Oh, Jeff, when are

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<v Speaker 1>you going to stop being funny? You know? That's all

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<v Speaker 1>I want? Man, I think I need to come up

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<v Speaker 1>with something like that, but I forget to write it

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<v Speaker 1>in my notes. App so sure, like all my million

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<v Speaker 1>dollar ideas. That's the only difference between you and Jeff

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<v Speaker 1>Foxworthy is he he doesn't forget to write it down.

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<v Speaker 1>He wrote one thing down. He was like, I gotta

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<v Speaker 1>keep this big going. This is tight. You killing right now.

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<v Speaker 1>So okay, you said something interesting, because this is something

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<v Speaker 1>that I, in hearing your conspiracy theory, was sort of

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<v Speaker 1>struggling with. I thought, for a second you were suggesting

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<v Speaker 1>that the mattress companies had sort of bio engineered these

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<v Speaker 1>bed bugs. But I think what you're saying, and correct

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<v Speaker 1>me if I'm wrong. I think what you're saying is

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<v Speaker 1>they in fact, just stopped doing everything they could to

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<v Speaker 1>protect us against the bedbugs, thus allowing them to come

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<v Speaker 1>into our lives, thus increasing their revenue. Yes, they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>do everything they could to protect us or stop them,

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<v Speaker 1>including releasing them, unto so what you're saying, and I

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<v Speaker 1>just be you're saying that, like when I go to

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<v Speaker 1>a mattress store, and specifically in New York City, and

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<v Speaker 1>what you're saying is somebody is intentionally picking up a

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<v Speaker 1>bed bug in a pair of tweezers and placing that

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<v Speaker 1>bad boy right smack dab in the middle, and presuming

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<v Speaker 1>that that bad bug will, over a course of time,

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<v Speaker 1>lay eggs and repopulate inside my mattress, thus making it

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<v Speaker 1>necessary for me to go back to them a year

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<v Speaker 1>later and be like, hey, I got the ship. There

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<v Speaker 1>there's a that this could be manifested, including and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not saying this to be sure because I didn't I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have the facts, but including pretending to be sweeping

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<v Speaker 1>as an exterminator of other bugs and planting who hold

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<v Speaker 1>up way to goddamn minute, hold the hold the motherfucking phone, Clark.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you just got us into a segment that

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<v Speaker 1>I want to call talk that Talk, And in Talk

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<v Speaker 1>that Talk, I'm gonna give you thirty seconds because you

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<v Speaker 1>just got into something terrifying if true, horrifying if true,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna give you thirty seconds. I'm gonna play some music.

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<v Speaker 1>I would love for you to fully unpack what you

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<v Speaker 1>just said. About the possibility of the exterminators being in

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<v Speaker 1>on this whole thing thirty seconds whenever you're ready. In

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<v Speaker 1>the words of Giuliani, this could be anything. This is

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<v Speaker 1>deep thing. Why wouldn't they You have no idea what

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<v Speaker 1>they're doing. When they knock on your door and say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we're from the landlord you never talked to, and we're

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<v Speaker 1>coming to just phrase some stuff. They could be unleashing

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<v Speaker 1>whatever bugs because look, if they got rid of all

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<v Speaker 1>the bugs, there would be no organ man. The point

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<v Speaker 1>is to have something to exterminate NonStop. It's like Chris

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<v Speaker 1>Rocks get about medicine. You don't cure anything. They keep

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<v Speaker 1>it going so they have an industry. Damn, damn, goddamn

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<v Speaker 1>motherfucking boys complain nothing about that goddamn game. Tell you

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<v Speaker 1>it's no point in getting rid of all the bugs

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<v Speaker 1>if you're trying to make money. Wow, listen, that's devastating.

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<v Speaker 1>If it's true, that's fucking devastating that this entire industry

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<v Speaker 1>is built on the maintenance of keeping infestations in people's

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<v Speaker 1>homes because that's how they make their money. I'm listen.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't start this podcast fully on your side, but

0:17:24.680 --> 0:17:27.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm getting pretty close to it. I'm I'm coming around.

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<v Speaker 1>Why would they not keep it going? Okay, let's take

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<v Speaker 1>this a step back for a second, because I think

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<v Speaker 1>this is important for for everyone to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>make sense of all of this. Where did this come from?

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<v Speaker 1>For you personally? Are there other people in your life

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<v Speaker 1>who support this theory? Are you alone ranger in this fight?

0:17:46.000 --> 0:17:51.600
<v Speaker 1>Where are we at having bus right? Which? Get it?

0:17:51.680 --> 0:17:57.200
<v Speaker 1>You're nasty, but I'm saying, are there are there other

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<v Speaker 1>people who you've run this past who are now on

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<v Speaker 1>the on the bedbug conspiracy train? Literally everybody who are

0:18:05.560 --> 0:18:09.680
<v Speaker 1>presented this to win? You know? Oh, is this a bit?

0:18:09.840 --> 0:18:14.160
<v Speaker 1>That's what they said first, Yeah, potentially if we can

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<v Speaker 1>workshop it. And then they went there's nothing. There's nothing

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<v Speaker 1>to workshop because I believe it so much. It's not funny, right,

0:18:22.240 --> 0:18:24.439
<v Speaker 1>They're like, look, if this is what your comedy has

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<v Speaker 1>turned into, if you're more of a truth teller at

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<v Speaker 1>this point, I'm off the train. I'm not. That's not

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<v Speaker 1>the kind of comedy I'm subscribing to. So look, man,

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to do a ted X, I'll support

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<v Speaker 1>you in that, But what you're doing right now is

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<v Speaker 1>just spitting them hard, real facts, and I ain't trying

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<v Speaker 1>to hear nothing else. Tedex sounds like somebody who comes

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<v Speaker 1>in to remove bugs, but they don't just spreading bugs.

0:18:49.840 --> 0:18:53.000
<v Speaker 1>That little is either that or it's a white dude

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<v Speaker 1>who went to one Nation of Islam meeting and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you felt real inspired. One more house and he's Ex

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<v Speaker 1>also known as ted X. He just shows up like, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>did y'all know there's racism out here? Don't report no more?

0:19:09.520 --> 0:19:12.359
<v Speaker 1>Just out of nowhere, just at the rib shop, eating sides.

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<v Speaker 1>And honestly, it's more because it upsets his stomach than

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<v Speaker 1>it is because he's actually passionate about like the health

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<v Speaker 1>and rules of religion. But he's like, nah, you know,

0:19:22.520 --> 0:19:25.080
<v Speaker 1>if black people said that I'm down, I'll do it.

0:19:25.400 --> 0:19:28.359
<v Speaker 1>But he's wearing the same color scheme from Belly, the

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<v Speaker 1>black white with the black tie. So you believe them,

0:19:31.119 --> 0:19:33.360
<v Speaker 1>are You're like, okay, Well his life different? He don't.

0:19:33.600 --> 0:19:36.480
<v Speaker 1>He don't you don't do beer cake stands no more. So.

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<v Speaker 1>He wears a boat tie, but it's a vine your

0:19:38.760 --> 0:19:41.359
<v Speaker 1>vines bow tie, and you know he ain't fully down.

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<v Speaker 1>Before ted X says anything, he takes his glasses off

0:19:45.200 --> 0:19:55.720
<v Speaker 1>points I would like apartment. Yeah, I loved TEDx. Listen.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're you're hitting something really important here that

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<v Speaker 1>so many of the industries in our country, in the

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<v Speaker 1>world are built on necessity, right that like there there

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<v Speaker 1>is no job that can't exist without a a need,

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<v Speaker 1>uh a want on the side of the consumer. And

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<v Speaker 1>so with that, extermination is exactly the same, and mattresses

0:20:21.480 --> 0:20:24.679
<v Speaker 1>are exactly the same. If we're not replacing our mattresses

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<v Speaker 1>every year, then presumably these mattress companies either have to

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<v Speaker 1>sell mattresses for insane prices, which they already do, that's

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<v Speaker 1>already a well known fact. But then on top of that,

0:20:37.160 --> 0:20:39.560
<v Speaker 1>they also have to find a way to keep refilling

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<v Speaker 1>that consumer base, and the best way to do that

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<v Speaker 1>is by making our mattresses fail us in various ways,

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<v Speaker 1>potentially through infestations. Here's the thing that really sells it

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<v Speaker 1>for me about any conspiracy period. That's what I heard,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm not always sure treat. And also, this is

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<v Speaker 1>a big industry, and people are always are attempted to

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<v Speaker 1>be nervous about exposing things. But I'm always like, even

0:21:11.920 --> 0:21:16.040
<v Speaker 1>if it's true, what can I do about it? Right?

0:21:16.560 --> 0:21:21.520
<v Speaker 1>That's that's the beauty of a wide sweeping plot to

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<v Speaker 1>take advantage of everyday America. There's nothing we can do

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<v Speaker 1>about it, even if it is true. Right, So, so

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<v Speaker 1>to your point, when you're sort of like exposing big

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<v Speaker 1>mattress for their ties to bed bugs, you, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>to some extent, are admitting you're pretty weak in this.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't have any real power to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>stop what's happening. Nothing you can do about it. You

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<v Speaker 1>just gotta buy a new mattress. Wow. And so do

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<v Speaker 1>you then go and buy a new mattress? Are you

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<v Speaker 1>then just like you just buy it begrudgingly, but you

0:21:55.280 --> 0:21:59.320
<v Speaker 1>do it? Wow? That well, that just okay. Now that's

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<v Speaker 1>upsetting me here, Clark. It feels like you, being sort

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<v Speaker 1>of a person on the ground floor, in the bottom

0:22:07.920 --> 0:22:10.520
<v Speaker 1>of the bowl, if you will, of this whole thing,

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<v Speaker 1>would want to create a new system where we don't

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<v Speaker 1>sleep on mattresses anymore. Now you you Japanese, Now you

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<v Speaker 1>sleep on them weird you know floor pads that they like, Yeah,

0:22:24.280 --> 0:22:26.880
<v Speaker 1>exactly like you. You. I would think that you would

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<v Speaker 1>want to explore new options, but you're saying no, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still fully invested in in capitalism. And all of

0:22:32.840 --> 0:22:37.000
<v Speaker 1>its tricks. Who enjoys? Who? Who can go without a

0:22:37.080 --> 0:22:42.720
<v Speaker 1>decent night of sleep? Who of you doesn't need to

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<v Speaker 1>sleep well? Sure if if you can do that, especially

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<v Speaker 1>in New York City. You've been on the train, you've

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<v Speaker 1>been at work, You're going to open mics, you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to two twos for a late night wrong, you're getting

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<v Speaker 1>a drink. All these things. I'm just showing out at

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<v Speaker 1>this point, just something very specific to you. You're over

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<v Speaker 1>the Jeff's house. You hang out with him for about

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<v Speaker 1>thirty five to eighty minutes, it depends if Jeff's in

0:23:09.680 --> 0:23:14.240
<v Speaker 1>the mood. Then you head over to the It's Saturday,

0:23:14.320 --> 0:23:16.879
<v Speaker 1>so you go by green Point and you think about

0:23:16.920 --> 0:23:21.560
<v Speaker 1>taking it skateboarding class. But then you're like, come on, dog,

0:23:21.600 --> 0:23:25.360
<v Speaker 1>you thirty five? What you mean skateboarding class? Get over this.

0:23:25.680 --> 0:23:28.400
<v Speaker 1>It's too late, you promise yourself. So you walk back

0:23:28.400 --> 0:23:30.640
<v Speaker 1>a little bit. But that Dunking Donuts is calling your name.

0:23:30.920 --> 0:23:35.320
<v Speaker 1>You could just get a stale blaze, Oh ship matchup

0:23:35.359 --> 0:23:39.639
<v Speaker 1>still going, No, they're done, So you scirm me around

0:23:41.000 --> 0:23:44.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, some artisanal ship, and then you just that's

0:23:44.359 --> 0:23:47.040
<v Speaker 1>your day. Sure, And to your point, that is a

0:23:47.160 --> 0:23:50.840
<v Speaker 1>very long day. That's a an arduous day, and therefore

0:23:50.920 --> 0:23:53.120
<v Speaker 1>you need a good rest at the end of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Bad boy. Now here's my concern, and here's where I

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<v Speaker 1>will challenge you, is that I do, in fact think

0:24:00.520 --> 0:24:03.520
<v Speaker 1>that maybe there's an alternative to a good night's sleep

0:24:03.560 --> 0:24:07.159
<v Speaker 1>that we haven't discovered that is sort of absent of

0:24:07.200 --> 0:24:10.280
<v Speaker 1>the mattress companies. That maybe the mattress companies have a

0:24:10.280 --> 0:24:13.360
<v Speaker 1>hold on our minds in a way that we don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>We could have a good night's sleep without them. Bitches,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. Okay, I would love to

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<v Speaker 1>hear that, because it isn't even cool like in other cities.

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<v Speaker 1>No cities where it's safe to catch some sleep on

0:24:27.200 --> 0:24:31.639
<v Speaker 1>the train have a train mm hmm. All the cities

0:24:31.640 --> 0:24:35.840
<v Speaker 1>that have trains, it's very unsafe to catch forty wings on.

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<v Speaker 1>So if the conspiracy is bigger than just like mattresses,

0:24:41.240 --> 0:24:43.919
<v Speaker 1>they look at every single angle like you have to

0:24:43.960 --> 0:24:47.040
<v Speaker 1>get that that rest. When you get home, you can

0:24:47.640 --> 0:24:51.760
<v Speaker 1>knowing you have been bugs. We are, especially in places

0:24:51.840 --> 0:24:54.880
<v Speaker 1>like New York City, you are living in a sleepless

0:24:55.040 --> 0:24:58.240
<v Speaker 1>prison that you are never going to be allowed to

0:24:58.280 --> 0:25:01.520
<v Speaker 1>get the proper rest that you need, and so you

0:25:01.600 --> 0:25:05.959
<v Speaker 1>are clinging to these mattresses because of the salvation that

0:25:06.040 --> 0:25:10.160
<v Speaker 1>they offer more than just uh, they are a nice

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<v Speaker 1>way to go to bed at night. You know the

0:25:12.640 --> 0:25:16.600
<v Speaker 1>worst thing about New York City with that it's overcrowded

0:25:16.680 --> 0:25:19.960
<v Speaker 1>all day year around people. Your bid is the one place,

0:25:20.640 --> 0:25:23.639
<v Speaker 1>one place where you can be alone, not with bed bugs.

0:25:23.880 --> 0:25:27.800
<v Speaker 1>You've got company. God damn this, well, this hurts my

0:25:27.880 --> 0:25:32.200
<v Speaker 1>feelings and it makes uh, it makes me. I'm spiraling.

0:25:32.280 --> 0:25:34.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't really know what to do. But we need

0:25:34.320 --> 0:25:36.000
<v Speaker 1>to take a break. We're gonna take a break. I'm

0:25:36.000 --> 0:25:39.080
<v Speaker 1>gonna get my ship together. Hopefully Clark's gonna keep spending

0:25:39.119 --> 0:25:41.840
<v Speaker 1>that hard truth that we need and we'll be back

0:25:41.840 --> 0:25:44.120
<v Speaker 1>with more Clark Jones and more. And my mama told me,

0:25:53.200 --> 0:26:06.520
<v Speaker 1>and we are back. Yeah, we're back here with more

0:26:06.560 --> 0:26:09.400
<v Speaker 1>of my mama told me more. Clark Jones. Were still

0:26:09.440 --> 0:26:13.080
<v Speaker 1>talking about the way that Big Mattress has constructed an

0:26:13.119 --> 0:26:18.439
<v Speaker 1>impossible nights rest without their involvement, and thus all of

0:26:18.520 --> 0:26:22.960
<v Speaker 1>the bedbugs and pests and night ruining, evening, ruining, life

0:26:23.040 --> 0:26:27.159
<v Speaker 1>ruining potentially things that they throw in the mix in

0:26:27.240 --> 0:26:31.480
<v Speaker 1>our own lives. Do you think that there was like

0:26:31.520 --> 0:26:35.000
<v Speaker 1>a singular meeting, Like do you think there was just

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<v Speaker 1>a meeting of the minds where they all sat down

0:26:37.320 --> 0:26:40.240
<v Speaker 1>and we're like, hey, sales are dipping across the board.

0:26:40.280 --> 0:26:43.520
<v Speaker 1>We gotta do something, and then that's when the bedbugs

0:26:43.600 --> 0:26:45.680
<v Speaker 1>idea came or do you think it was more like

0:26:45.760 --> 0:26:50.400
<v Speaker 1>a gradual process to that. There's there's board of investors

0:26:50.800 --> 0:26:54.200
<v Speaker 1>if you if you follow and find out who had

0:26:54.480 --> 0:26:59.359
<v Speaker 1>when he invested in Certa and seeley and then that

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<v Speaker 1>sh wow. So you're saying that potentially there's like, uh,

0:27:05.760 --> 0:27:08.359
<v Speaker 1>there's a Jeff Bezos on the other side of this,

0:27:08.600 --> 0:27:11.800
<v Speaker 1>There's a there's a Koke Brothers on the other side

0:27:11.840 --> 0:27:16.119
<v Speaker 1>of whatever this is that basically is now planning growing

0:27:16.200 --> 0:27:19.640
<v Speaker 1>their profits from the destruction of our lives. You don't

0:27:19.720 --> 0:27:25.119
<v Speaker 1>name names per se, but I watch a lot of

0:27:25.200 --> 0:27:30.360
<v Speaker 1>I watch a lot of Drill Chicago Get Back YouTube videos.

0:27:30.480 --> 0:27:32.679
<v Speaker 1>So I don't name names, and it might even be

0:27:32.800 --> 0:27:35.240
<v Speaker 1>names we don't even know. That's the thing about it,

0:27:35.680 --> 0:27:39.520
<v Speaker 1>because there's there's a yang to being woke. You know.

0:27:39.960 --> 0:27:43.520
<v Speaker 1>Beginner's like, oh man, you get the funk after protests, right,

0:27:43.880 --> 0:27:46.760
<v Speaker 1>But the yang is there's nothing you can do about

0:27:46.760 --> 0:27:51.920
<v Speaker 1>the thing that you're now woke about. Right. Frederick Douglas

0:27:51.960 --> 0:27:54.800
<v Speaker 1>and his and his Slave Narratives talks about this a

0:27:54.840 --> 0:27:58.240
<v Speaker 1>little bit where he says that the worst thing you

0:27:58.280 --> 0:28:01.040
<v Speaker 1>could do to a slave is to teach them how

0:28:01.040 --> 0:28:05.760
<v Speaker 1>to read, because ultimately you are enabling them to now

0:28:05.960 --> 0:28:10.040
<v Speaker 1>understand the language of their imprisonment, of their slavery, as

0:28:10.080 --> 0:28:13.359
<v Speaker 1>opposed to before when they're ignorant, they're trapped, but they

0:28:13.400 --> 0:28:16.840
<v Speaker 1>don't quite understand what that trapped is. But now they

0:28:17.040 --> 0:28:20.119
<v Speaker 1>understand every detail of that experience. And I think to

0:28:20.160 --> 0:28:23.000
<v Speaker 1>your same point, once you've woken up to the fact

0:28:23.080 --> 0:28:26.280
<v Speaker 1>that big mattress, once you dead, or at least once

0:28:26.359 --> 0:28:30.359
<v Speaker 1>you sleepless, there's no way you can go back. That

0:28:30.560 --> 0:28:33.600
<v Speaker 1>is crazy, man, That just that, just because I've always

0:28:33.640 --> 0:28:36.719
<v Speaker 1>thought like that, And I didn't know me and Frederick

0:28:36.760 --> 0:28:42.600
<v Speaker 1>Douglas were both geniuses. I thought it was just him.

0:28:44.680 --> 0:28:48.120
<v Speaker 1>I love that, man, Damn. I didn't know Frederick Douglas

0:28:48.160 --> 0:28:51.320
<v Speaker 1>was deep like me. So you mean to tell me

0:28:51.400 --> 0:28:55.320
<v Speaker 1>Freddy Ducks was retweeting my thoughts before I was born.

0:28:55.400 --> 0:29:00.600
<v Speaker 1>That's crazy. Oh man, Okay, that's what it is, man, Yeah,

0:29:00.680 --> 0:29:03.600
<v Speaker 1>that's that's that's a great point. Like, did you know,

0:29:03.680 --> 0:29:06.360
<v Speaker 1>like the whole walker thing, this is just a sidebar,

0:29:06.480 --> 0:29:10.520
<v Speaker 1>but like, um, the idea of what is it on

0:29:10.640 --> 0:29:14.840
<v Speaker 1>the Walking Dead? Those are called zombies. Zombie zombies came

0:29:14.920 --> 0:29:19.280
<v Speaker 1>from slaves thinking that like if they killed themselves, then

0:29:19.280 --> 0:29:25.200
<v Speaker 1>they would just live forever as slaves as zombies. Wait,

0:29:25.360 --> 0:29:28.960
<v Speaker 1>wait a minute, because I don't Okay, I'm listening. You're

0:29:29.000 --> 0:29:33.880
<v Speaker 1>saying that the original conception of zombies came from slaves

0:29:34.360 --> 0:29:38.920
<v Speaker 1>fear that in dying in slavery, they would remain slaves forever,

0:29:39.880 --> 0:29:42.800
<v Speaker 1>and if they killed themselves, they would just remain as

0:29:43.120 --> 0:29:46.520
<v Speaker 1>the zombie slaves forever. That was the hell they would

0:29:46.520 --> 0:29:50.520
<v Speaker 1>have to be slaves. Wow, And this is this is

0:29:50.600 --> 0:29:53.959
<v Speaker 1>you're saying the original zombie like that's where the whole

0:29:54.000 --> 0:29:59.320
<v Speaker 1>thing came from. Whoa if true? Devastating? I don't listen.

0:29:59.480 --> 0:30:02.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't have the research, and you didn't know basic

0:30:02.600 --> 0:30:07.360
<v Speaker 1>Frederick Douglas quotes, so I can't trust you wholeheartedly. But

0:30:07.440 --> 0:30:10.920
<v Speaker 1>that is just the idea that that's where it came from.

0:30:10.920 --> 0:30:14.320
<v Speaker 1>As fucking devastating in that Yeah, to your point, it's

0:30:14.440 --> 0:30:17.760
<v Speaker 1>it's we're trapped in this forever and always in a

0:30:17.800 --> 0:30:21.960
<v Speaker 1>way that like it is inescapable or more more suicide

0:30:21.960 --> 0:30:26.000
<v Speaker 1>would have occurred. Mm hmmm, that's how ingrained it had

0:30:26.040 --> 0:30:31.200
<v Speaker 1>to be. Like why wouldn't you just say, man, this right, Like,

0:30:31.280 --> 0:30:34.680
<v Speaker 1>there's no reason to stay in this life of servitude

0:30:34.840 --> 0:30:37.880
<v Speaker 1>unless they can figure out a way to make you

0:30:38.080 --> 0:30:44.280
<v Speaker 1>fear even leaving the worst version of this experience. Wow,

0:30:44.760 --> 0:30:47.840
<v Speaker 1>all right, Wow, okay, let's get into this. We didn't

0:30:47.840 --> 0:30:51.840
<v Speaker 1>even Yeah, I didn't know either, and uh not to

0:30:51.960 --> 0:30:56.000
<v Speaker 1>look it up. As I'm telling you, it's all out

0:30:56.160 --> 0:30:58.520
<v Speaker 1>that that was out there, so you can look that up.

0:30:59.000 --> 0:31:02.400
<v Speaker 1>Hell yeah, okay. Let's talk a little bit about bed

0:31:02.440 --> 0:31:07.120
<v Speaker 1>bugs um and and their history, particularly in this country.

0:31:07.400 --> 0:31:10.400
<v Speaker 1>Bed Bugs have apparently been around for thousands of years.

0:31:10.560 --> 0:31:14.560
<v Speaker 1>There's even evidence that like the ancient Egyptians, like we're

0:31:14.560 --> 0:31:17.880
<v Speaker 1>writing different stories about how to get rid of these

0:31:17.960 --> 0:31:22.320
<v Speaker 1>pesky little monsters whatever. Right, so for thousands of years

0:31:22.360 --> 0:31:26.479
<v Speaker 1>they bothered humans. But to your earlier point about us

0:31:26.480 --> 0:31:29.520
<v Speaker 1>sort of starting to resolve the problem with bed bugs.

0:31:29.520 --> 0:31:34.880
<v Speaker 1>In nineteen thirty nine, this Swiss chemist named Paul Herman

0:31:35.040 --> 0:31:39.920
<v Speaker 1>Mueller discovered a pesticide called d d T which proved

0:31:39.960 --> 0:31:43.280
<v Speaker 1>to be super effective against bed bugs. It was a

0:31:43.280 --> 0:31:47.000
<v Speaker 1>triple H finishing move. No, not triple hs, although he

0:31:47.040 --> 0:31:48.880
<v Speaker 1>did use it quite a bit, but it was a

0:31:48.920 --> 0:31:51.760
<v Speaker 1>finishing move in the w W E. And then it

0:31:52.240 --> 0:32:02.560
<v Speaker 1>also was apparently super effective in killing bed bugs. Uh yeah, okay,

0:32:02.680 --> 0:32:05.880
<v Speaker 1>So d d T Apparently the way that it's so

0:32:05.960 --> 0:32:09.240
<v Speaker 1>effective is because more than any other chemical, it has

0:32:09.280 --> 0:32:13.200
<v Speaker 1>the ability to stay on surfaces for a really long time,

0:32:13.280 --> 0:32:15.640
<v Speaker 1>like it linkers for a really long time, and it

0:32:15.720 --> 0:32:19.160
<v Speaker 1>attacks the nervous system of the bed bugs, so it

0:32:19.320 --> 0:32:23.560
<v Speaker 1>just like basically melts their fucking insides. But then in

0:32:23.720 --> 0:32:27.400
<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy two, d d T is banned in the

0:32:27.560 --> 0:32:33.200
<v Speaker 1>US because apparently it also has cancer causing agents in it.

0:32:33.200 --> 0:32:36.840
<v Speaker 1>It's like a carcinogen, and it becomes like this super

0:32:36.960 --> 0:32:40.840
<v Speaker 1>dangerous thing for them to be uh putting in people's

0:32:40.880 --> 0:32:44.000
<v Speaker 1>homes just to get rid of insects. So one of

0:32:44.040 --> 0:32:47.120
<v Speaker 1>the services it could it would remain on is your loans,

0:32:48.040 --> 0:32:51.840
<v Speaker 1>h right, Like you couldn't get rid of this, Yes, exactly,

0:32:52.440 --> 0:32:55.000
<v Speaker 1>You're sitting in here and your bed bugs are their

0:32:55.160 --> 0:32:57.960
<v Speaker 1>insides are melting, and apparently your insides are melting to

0:32:58.200 --> 0:33:03.000
<v Speaker 1>just a little bit slower than the bedbug bugs. Yeah, Okay.

0:33:03.240 --> 0:33:07.720
<v Speaker 1>Now here's where your your suggestion starts to get really interesting,

0:33:08.040 --> 0:33:12.440
<v Speaker 1>because even after nineteen seventy two, there's not like immediately

0:33:12.520 --> 0:33:16.040
<v Speaker 1>this massive outbreak of bed bugs. Once we start banning

0:33:16.120 --> 0:33:19.840
<v Speaker 1>d d T, right, it more or less kind of

0:33:19.880 --> 0:33:25.440
<v Speaker 1>stays under control until around the nineteen eight mid nineteen

0:33:25.480 --> 0:33:29.080
<v Speaker 1>eighties to mid nineteen nineties. But and then this is

0:33:29.120 --> 0:33:31.640
<v Speaker 1>where it really gets interesting. In the in the year

0:33:31.680 --> 0:33:36.560
<v Speaker 1>two thousand, there's this massive uptick in people claiming to

0:33:36.680 --> 0:33:40.520
<v Speaker 1>have bed bugs because and this is the claim, is

0:33:40.600 --> 0:33:44.520
<v Speaker 1>that there is now a d d T resistant strain

0:33:44.600 --> 0:33:47.560
<v Speaker 1>of bed bugs that suddenly pops up out of nowhere.

0:33:47.880 --> 0:33:51.200
<v Speaker 1>Bad bugs just suddenly are no longer allergic to the

0:33:51.240 --> 0:33:55.880
<v Speaker 1>thing that otherwise kills humans and everything else, this thing

0:33:55.920 --> 0:34:00.640
<v Speaker 1>that was killing humans out of nowhere, the strained of

0:34:00.680 --> 0:34:04.360
<v Speaker 1>it that you can't kill that, like, humans, stop taking

0:34:04.360 --> 0:34:07.080
<v Speaker 1>this or you're dying. But the bad bugs like, are

0:34:07.120 --> 0:34:10.399
<v Speaker 1>we back? Yep? The bad bugs are like, no, we're good.

0:34:10.600 --> 0:34:12.520
<v Speaker 1>Give me a big old tall glass of d d T.

0:34:12.840 --> 0:34:20.120
<v Speaker 1>I I don't feel nothing, just chugging. What is this?

0:34:20.400 --> 0:34:23.600
<v Speaker 1>What is d d T stand for delicious, delicious tasty?

0:34:23.640 --> 0:34:26.640
<v Speaker 1>Because that's how I'm that I'm drinking it. I love

0:34:26.640 --> 0:34:31.319
<v Speaker 1>it this drank. I can't think of a T at two,

0:34:31.600 --> 0:34:34.600
<v Speaker 1>but this drank turned I'm a bad bug that talk

0:34:34.760 --> 0:34:44.719
<v Speaker 1>like uh talk like the year sixteen and I love this. Yeah.

0:34:44.760 --> 0:34:48.520
<v Speaker 1>So the bed bugs apparently are now suddenly not allergic

0:34:48.680 --> 0:34:51.120
<v Speaker 1>to the d d T. And here's where it starts

0:34:51.120 --> 0:34:53.439
<v Speaker 1>to get this. This part turned me off and I'd

0:34:53.440 --> 0:34:55.600
<v Speaker 1>love to get your thoughts on this. One of the

0:34:55.680 --> 0:34:59.480
<v Speaker 1>reasons that they claim, or possible reasons that they claim

0:34:59.520 --> 0:35:04.080
<v Speaker 1>that these bad bugs are suddenly becoming uh DDT resistant

0:35:04.480 --> 0:35:08.319
<v Speaker 1>is that they may have come over from Africa, that

0:35:08.440 --> 0:35:12.640
<v Speaker 1>they were sort of these Africanized bed bugs that then

0:35:12.760 --> 0:35:16.400
<v Speaker 1>show up to America and now our d d T. Uh.

0:35:16.440 --> 0:35:19.760
<v Speaker 1>They're too strong. They're stronger than the average bed bug.

0:35:20.520 --> 0:35:23.520
<v Speaker 1>And that's when that's when I really started believing this.

0:35:23.960 --> 0:35:26.239
<v Speaker 1>When that when the when the thing turns to is

0:35:26.320 --> 0:35:29.839
<v Speaker 1>Africa they came. That's when I know a white man

0:35:29.920 --> 0:35:33.600
<v Speaker 1>did it. That's that's that I was like in ninety

0:35:33.640 --> 0:35:38.200
<v Speaker 1>seven percent. Now I'm at like night because as soon

0:35:38.280 --> 0:35:40.920
<v Speaker 1>as it was he came from Africa, they ain't nobody

0:35:40.960 --> 0:35:43.560
<v Speaker 1>going over there to find out. You know what, I'm saying,

0:35:43.840 --> 0:35:46.440
<v Speaker 1>like all the storm the tornadoes come from Africa, Like

0:35:46.560 --> 0:35:51.120
<v Speaker 1>come on, man, yeah, yeah, yeah, they It bugs me

0:35:51.840 --> 0:35:56.600
<v Speaker 1>whenever they start suggesting that, like the entire continent of

0:35:56.680 --> 0:36:00.480
<v Speaker 1>Africa is servicing up these like more power for more

0:36:00.640 --> 0:36:04.120
<v Speaker 1>dangerous versions of the things that we have in America.

0:36:04.400 --> 0:36:07.759
<v Speaker 1>The African eyes. B it's not a it's not a

0:36:07.760 --> 0:36:10.600
<v Speaker 1>more dangerous be It's just a bee with a vengeance

0:36:10.920 --> 0:36:14.520
<v Speaker 1>that you that you brought over here, white devil that

0:36:14.640 --> 0:36:17.879
<v Speaker 1>you introduced to your America and now you're sitting here

0:36:17.920 --> 0:36:21.600
<v Speaker 1>resentful that you didn't leave the motherfucker alone. Just leave

0:36:21.640 --> 0:36:24.000
<v Speaker 1>it alone. I mean, after all this time, like it's

0:36:24.000 --> 0:36:27.719
<v Speaker 1>white folks who went over there too, Like, but you

0:36:27.800 --> 0:36:31.280
<v Speaker 1>say it's from Africa, and people just assume it's from Africa,

0:36:31.800 --> 0:36:35.480
<v Speaker 1>right that that it is Africa's fault, when in fact,

0:36:35.880 --> 0:36:39.360
<v Speaker 1>in more cases than not, it is the white man's

0:36:39.400 --> 0:36:42.759
<v Speaker 1>fault for traveling to a space that was not his

0:36:42.960 --> 0:36:47.399
<v Speaker 1>and bringing back something that again did not belong to him.

0:36:47.800 --> 0:36:53.280
<v Speaker 1>Sierra Leone is a French name, no Nigga's name, Sierra

0:36:53.360 --> 0:37:01.880
<v Speaker 1>Leone exactly, and one of the things one of the

0:37:01.960 --> 0:37:06.080
<v Speaker 1>things that they argue for these bed bugs and for

0:37:06.239 --> 0:37:10.480
<v Speaker 1>The reason that these Africanized or foreign bed bugs sort

0:37:10.520 --> 0:37:14.040
<v Speaker 1>of make it to the US is that in the

0:37:14.080 --> 0:37:18.680
<v Speaker 1>eighties and nineties there is this massive uptick in national

0:37:18.719 --> 0:37:22.200
<v Speaker 1>and international travel by airplane, and so it's part of

0:37:22.239 --> 0:37:26.480
<v Speaker 1>the reason that we're getting these different species and strains

0:37:26.520 --> 0:37:30.440
<v Speaker 1>of these these insects traveling to different places is because

0:37:30.440 --> 0:37:35.160
<v Speaker 1>somebody goes to let's say, Sierra Leone, they hang out there,

0:37:35.239 --> 0:37:37.440
<v Speaker 1>and then they come back with now a different type

0:37:37.480 --> 0:37:40.360
<v Speaker 1>of bedbug, one that has built up a resistance to

0:37:40.480 --> 0:37:44.880
<v Speaker 1>d d T, largely because they're using in in Africa,

0:37:44.880 --> 0:37:48.440
<v Speaker 1>they're using mosquito nets that are laced with a different

0:37:48.520 --> 0:37:53.880
<v Speaker 1>type of protection of chemicals that basically built a strength

0:37:53.960 --> 0:37:57.120
<v Speaker 1>in the bed bugs that live over there. Yeah. I

0:37:57.200 --> 0:38:02.280
<v Speaker 1>wish I could go find out, you know what I'm saying, like, Yeah,

0:38:02.320 --> 0:38:05.799
<v Speaker 1>but there's no way. Who got time? Who got time

0:38:05.840 --> 0:38:11.520
<v Speaker 1>to find Yeah? Yeah, this further is my point, right,

0:38:12.000 --> 0:38:14.840
<v Speaker 1>I think So, I think it's it's definitely not hurting

0:38:14.880 --> 0:38:17.800
<v Speaker 1>what you're what you're building here. There's also an argument

0:38:17.840 --> 0:38:21.800
<v Speaker 1>that bed bugs over the years, through evolution, have built

0:38:21.840 --> 0:38:25.840
<v Speaker 1>up a thicker exo skeleton that because they're exo skeleton,

0:38:25.840 --> 0:38:29.080
<v Speaker 1>they're outside shell is getting harder and thicker. It is

0:38:29.160 --> 0:38:32.440
<v Speaker 1>making it harder for these chemicals that otherwise would have

0:38:32.560 --> 0:38:36.840
<v Speaker 1>killed them to penetrate their exo skeleton and thus melt

0:38:36.960 --> 0:38:41.600
<v Speaker 1>up their insides. But they're so tiny mm hmm. They're

0:38:41.719 --> 0:38:46.960
<v Speaker 1>like if they're living breathing organism, and these things can

0:38:47.120 --> 0:38:52.480
<v Speaker 1>harm us to that to to murder us. Yep, I

0:38:52.520 --> 0:38:56.600
<v Speaker 1>mean the droplets are bigger than the bad bugs. Sure,

0:38:57.400 --> 0:38:59.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm listening. I'm not sure what point you're making, but

0:38:59.640 --> 0:39:02.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm you know, what I'm saying is it ain't like

0:39:03.600 --> 0:39:07.799
<v Speaker 1>if it's like if it's there, it's being breathed them,

0:39:08.120 --> 0:39:10.600
<v Speaker 1>and you're this big. I don't give a funk how

0:39:10.600 --> 0:39:13.160
<v Speaker 1>big is a shell? Is there a shell over your nose?

0:39:15.840 --> 0:39:18.600
<v Speaker 1>If you have a living breathing organism, it's going into

0:39:18.640 --> 0:39:21.480
<v Speaker 1>your system, right, And so one of the things that

0:39:21.520 --> 0:39:25.000
<v Speaker 1>they're saying is that, uh and and this goes to

0:39:25.040 --> 0:39:27.240
<v Speaker 1>your earlier point, right. And this is where the research

0:39:27.280 --> 0:39:30.000
<v Speaker 1>I think really takes a turn in your favor, is

0:39:30.040 --> 0:39:32.920
<v Speaker 1>that if in keep in mind, so much of it

0:39:32.960 --> 0:39:38.359
<v Speaker 1>already has, but a multimillion dollar industry is born from

0:39:38.440 --> 0:39:42.640
<v Speaker 1>bedbug prevention that isn't d d T. The one thing

0:39:42.680 --> 0:39:47.960
<v Speaker 1>that they could confirm was capable of killing bedbugs is

0:39:48.000 --> 0:39:51.680
<v Speaker 1>now taken out. But then all these other industries are

0:39:51.760 --> 0:39:54.239
<v Speaker 1>born where they start to convince people that if you

0:39:54.320 --> 0:39:57.000
<v Speaker 1>buy this product, or if you invest in this thing,

0:39:57.120 --> 0:39:59.919
<v Speaker 1>or if you replace this thing with this thing you said,

0:40:00.120 --> 0:40:03.000
<v Speaker 1>Lee can get rid of these bed bugs. And this

0:40:03.040 --> 0:40:06.840
<v Speaker 1>goes to your original idea that there's no way that

0:40:06.960 --> 0:40:09.359
<v Speaker 1>they can actually confirm a lot of the things that

0:40:09.400 --> 0:40:12.200
<v Speaker 1>they're saying are killing the bed bugs in fact are

0:40:12.280 --> 0:40:14.960
<v Speaker 1>killing the bed bugs even with all this information that

0:40:15.120 --> 0:40:17.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, if you had a bed bug right now,

0:40:17.800 --> 0:40:20.600
<v Speaker 1>would you buy a new man? If I had one

0:40:20.719 --> 0:40:25.560
<v Speaker 1>right this second, would you buy a new mattress? It's tough, man. Listen,

0:40:25.920 --> 0:40:28.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be honest with you. It's pretty tough, and

0:40:28.280 --> 0:40:31.080
<v Speaker 1>and I'm gonna get into some reasons why right now.

0:40:31.200 --> 0:40:34.279
<v Speaker 1>But it's some of what I found is pretty devastating.

0:40:34.360 --> 0:40:36.839
<v Speaker 1>So here's the reality with bed bugs. The reason they're

0:40:36.880 --> 0:40:40.040
<v Speaker 1>so difficult to kill is because number one, they lay

0:40:40.120 --> 0:40:45.239
<v Speaker 1>dormant for long periods, sometimes months, right and then on

0:40:45.320 --> 0:40:48.480
<v Speaker 1>top of that, they only come out during certain hours

0:40:48.520 --> 0:40:52.480
<v Speaker 1>in the night. Okay, so the bedbug can like lay

0:40:52.560 --> 0:40:55.800
<v Speaker 1>in the middle of your mattress undetected for a really

0:40:55.840 --> 0:40:58.560
<v Speaker 1>long time and you'll never catch it. So in theory,

0:40:58.680 --> 0:41:01.760
<v Speaker 1>if I find a bed bug, I have to presume

0:41:01.800 --> 0:41:06.200
<v Speaker 1>that my mattress could potentially be infested. Now I could

0:41:06.200 --> 0:41:08.480
<v Speaker 1>take the time, because they do say that there are

0:41:08.520 --> 0:41:12.080
<v Speaker 1>ways to kill bedbugs, right that, like through heat and

0:41:12.120 --> 0:41:15.120
<v Speaker 1>through uh suffocation and all the different things that you

0:41:15.160 --> 0:41:17.719
<v Speaker 1>can do to get rid of these bedbugs. I could

0:41:17.719 --> 0:41:19.839
<v Speaker 1>presume that maybe I do the work to get rid

0:41:19.880 --> 0:41:22.440
<v Speaker 1>of them, or I could presume that I go to

0:41:22.520 --> 0:41:25.120
<v Speaker 1>a mattress company and ask them to replace it. To

0:41:25.280 --> 0:41:30.120
<v Speaker 1>your earlier point. Though, there's now something in dealing with

0:41:30.160 --> 0:41:32.760
<v Speaker 1>the mattress companies where they pretty much are pretty open

0:41:32.840 --> 0:41:36.239
<v Speaker 1>that like recycling. I think they call it, like mattress

0:41:36.320 --> 0:41:40.040
<v Speaker 1>rejuvenation or some ship is a fully real thing that

0:41:40.120 --> 0:41:44.280
<v Speaker 1>like a reconditioned mattress is something that they basically claim

0:41:44.320 --> 0:41:46.879
<v Speaker 1>is something you you know, they stripped down and they

0:41:46.960 --> 0:41:50.759
<v Speaker 1>sterilize and they repurpose and sell to consumers and you

0:41:50.880 --> 0:41:54.359
<v Speaker 1>buy it knowing it's a reconditioned mattress. But they keep

0:41:54.400 --> 0:41:57.839
<v Speaker 1>those mattresses in the exact same places that they keep

0:41:58.000 --> 0:42:00.799
<v Speaker 1>new mattresses it's not as if like this is kept

0:42:00.840 --> 0:42:05.000
<v Speaker 1>in a separate area. So in theory, if these products

0:42:05.000 --> 0:42:08.520
<v Speaker 1>are as ineffective as they seem to be at killing

0:42:08.560 --> 0:42:11.640
<v Speaker 1>off the insect that is so hard to kill, in

0:42:11.800 --> 0:42:15.440
<v Speaker 1>buying a new mattress, I am simply reinvesting in a

0:42:15.560 --> 0:42:19.680
<v Speaker 1>new bedbug infestation, which I don't need. I'll go with

0:42:19.719 --> 0:42:26.680
<v Speaker 1>the ones I know. I'm just imagining Scrooge McDuck swimming

0:42:27.040 --> 0:42:31.719
<v Speaker 1>in bed bugless money. Yes, he re sells you at

0:42:31.719 --> 0:42:35.960
<v Speaker 1>the higher price the mattress you used to have. It's

0:42:35.960 --> 0:42:38.799
<v Speaker 1>it's devastating. There's an article I read that was on

0:42:38.960 --> 0:42:43.000
<v Speaker 1>NBC News where they basically tracked this mattress company as

0:42:43.040 --> 0:42:45.120
<v Speaker 1>they picked up a bunch of mattresses that were on

0:42:45.160 --> 0:42:48.120
<v Speaker 1>the street, and before they picked up the mattresses, they

0:42:48.200 --> 0:42:51.120
<v Speaker 1>checked each mattress for bed bugs. Found that one of

0:42:51.120 --> 0:42:53.560
<v Speaker 1>the nine of them that they watched, these this mattress

0:42:53.600 --> 0:42:57.320
<v Speaker 1>company pick up did in fact have a bedbug infestation.

0:42:57.600 --> 0:43:00.279
<v Speaker 1>They put it in the exact same pile as the

0:43:00.280 --> 0:43:04.719
<v Speaker 1>other mattresses. So maybe they did in fact sterilize this

0:43:04.880 --> 0:43:06.920
<v Speaker 1>and break it down and do everything they could to

0:43:06.960 --> 0:43:09.520
<v Speaker 1>get rid of it. But the point that NBC news

0:43:09.600 --> 0:43:12.440
<v Speaker 1>was making, and sort of the science behind it is

0:43:12.440 --> 0:43:16.240
<v Speaker 1>there's no way of a percent guaranteeing that you fully

0:43:16.280 --> 0:43:19.040
<v Speaker 1>have gotten rid of these things without like like cracking

0:43:19.040 --> 0:43:22.480
<v Speaker 1>the motherfucker open and like picking it out one by

0:43:22.520 --> 0:43:25.920
<v Speaker 1>one and so like, you don't know, you know what

0:43:26.040 --> 0:43:33.160
<v Speaker 1>else business thrive about this big as plastic rep Yes, yeah,

0:43:33.320 --> 0:43:36.879
<v Speaker 1>you had to wrap it before you consider it outside exactly.

0:43:37.000 --> 0:43:39.280
<v Speaker 1>And that's one of the things that they talk about

0:43:39.440 --> 0:43:43.399
<v Speaker 1>as like part of this multimillion dollar industry that that

0:43:43.719 --> 0:43:47.279
<v Speaker 1>came out of bed bugs. It's it's plastic wraps that

0:43:47.400 --> 0:43:50.960
<v Speaker 1>they claim can keep bed bugs from penetrating your mattress.

0:43:51.160 --> 0:43:53.680
<v Speaker 1>But one of the things that scientists say is that

0:43:53.719 --> 0:43:57.640
<v Speaker 1>bed bugs don't actually need to be in soft surfaces.

0:43:57.680 --> 0:44:00.440
<v Speaker 1>It's it's a ruse that they're selling you that like, oh,

0:44:00.480 --> 0:44:03.120
<v Speaker 1>if you cover your mattress, you'll be straight, when in fact,

0:44:03.160 --> 0:44:05.360
<v Speaker 1>bed bugs can live in the cracks in your walls,

0:44:05.680 --> 0:44:08.799
<v Speaker 1>they can live in the cracks in your mattresses, they

0:44:08.800 --> 0:44:11.640
<v Speaker 1>can live in literally the cracks of the foundation of

0:44:11.719 --> 0:44:14.520
<v Speaker 1>your floor. So even if you're able to get rid

0:44:14.560 --> 0:44:18.360
<v Speaker 1>of the bed bugs on your surface, you can't guarantee

0:44:18.400 --> 0:44:21.120
<v Speaker 1>you've gotten rid of them from your home entirely, or

0:44:21.160 --> 0:44:24.880
<v Speaker 1>even worse, from the entirety of your apartment building. And

0:44:24.960 --> 0:44:29.359
<v Speaker 1>I can't. I can't speak to the intellect of bed bugs, right,

0:44:30.160 --> 0:44:33.839
<v Speaker 1>and I can't imagine them on the bed and they

0:44:33.920 --> 0:44:37.839
<v Speaker 1>see you struggling mightily to wrap with that big as

0:44:38.480 --> 0:44:41.279
<v Speaker 1>m hmm, classic wrap and they just go there like DAMG,

0:44:41.320 --> 0:44:44.479
<v Speaker 1>I wonder what's gonna happen with that? Oh, they go

0:44:44.719 --> 0:44:47.759
<v Speaker 1>back into the crack until that new matches come in,

0:44:48.440 --> 0:44:51.920
<v Speaker 1>unless you fumigate, unless ted X comes to your apartment

0:44:52.760 --> 0:44:57.280
<v Speaker 1>and sprays the cracks or whatever. Ain' saying they all crooked.

0:44:57.800 --> 0:45:01.600
<v Speaker 1>You're saying that's one point of injury. I totally agree.

0:45:01.680 --> 0:45:04.399
<v Speaker 1>Here's another scary thing that I think you brought up

0:45:04.400 --> 0:45:09.360
<v Speaker 1>earlier was about the uptick that people saw in terms

0:45:09.400 --> 0:45:14.880
<v Speaker 1>of pest management. So a recent bed bug pest control survey,

0:45:14.960 --> 0:45:18.000
<v Speaker 1>this is them surveying the people who are in charge

0:45:18.000 --> 0:45:21.040
<v Speaker 1>of pest control where they can. It was conducted by

0:45:21.080 --> 0:45:26.480
<v Speaker 1>the National Pest Management Association, the mp m A. Apparently

0:45:26.560 --> 0:45:29.719
<v Speaker 1>it's a real thing, but they found that bedbug infestation

0:45:29.760 --> 0:45:33.320
<v Speaker 1>in the United States continued at a high at high rates,

0:45:33.440 --> 0:45:38.120
<v Speaker 1>with nine seven percent of pest control professionals having treated

0:45:38.160 --> 0:45:41.000
<v Speaker 1>for bed bugs in the past year, and that number

0:45:41.080 --> 0:45:45.080
<v Speaker 1>is significantly higher than fifteen years ago, when it was

0:45:45.200 --> 0:45:49.279
<v Speaker 1>only twenty a pest control professionals saying that they had

0:45:49.320 --> 0:45:51.839
<v Speaker 1>treated bed bugs in the past year. So it went

0:45:51.880 --> 0:45:58.040
<v Speaker 1>from twenty five to nineties seven in fifteen years. I'm no,

0:45:57.719 --> 0:46:05.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm but if my bank account went from to ninety seven, Yeah,

0:46:05.280 --> 0:46:09.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm worried about bucks no more. Sure you got that money,

0:46:09.320 --> 0:46:11.000
<v Speaker 1>got them? Got the Upper East album, We got that

0:46:11.120 --> 0:46:15.359
<v Speaker 1>Jamaican anybody you got that? And now and now your

0:46:15.480 --> 0:46:18.239
<v Speaker 1>kid has a weird accident. This is what we're all

0:46:18.280 --> 0:46:23.200
<v Speaker 1>striving for. This is the America that capitalism builds. This

0:46:23.280 --> 0:46:26.800
<v Speaker 1>is the danger that we're fighting against. Is potentially big

0:46:26.840 --> 0:46:29.719
<v Speaker 1>Mattress and all of the corruption that they've cooked up

0:46:29.719 --> 0:46:32.520
<v Speaker 1>that affects our entire lives, not just the ones that

0:46:32.640 --> 0:46:39.840
<v Speaker 1>we we can see on the surface. If you will, yeah, okay,

0:46:39.920 --> 0:46:41.840
<v Speaker 1>let me hit you with one last little piece of

0:46:41.880 --> 0:46:44.600
<v Speaker 1>information that blew my mind. One of the things that

0:46:44.640 --> 0:46:48.960
<v Speaker 1>they specifically say about these pest management companies and sort

0:46:49.000 --> 0:46:51.240
<v Speaker 1>of the bullshit that they're able to cook up around

0:46:51.239 --> 0:46:54.760
<v Speaker 1>bad bugs is because they can't guarantee that they're getting

0:46:54.840 --> 0:46:57.319
<v Speaker 1>rid of them. They start to offer all of these

0:46:57.360 --> 0:47:00.200
<v Speaker 1>alternatives for getting rid of them. So one of the

0:47:00.239 --> 0:47:03.279
<v Speaker 1>things that they started cooking up is, like we talked

0:47:03.320 --> 0:47:07.400
<v Speaker 1>about the mattress covers. Another thing was bed bugs. Sniffing

0:47:07.520 --> 0:47:11.279
<v Speaker 1>dogs is apparently a thing now, where like they say

0:47:11.320 --> 0:47:14.160
<v Speaker 1>that like they can train dogs to sniff out bed

0:47:14.200 --> 0:47:17.160
<v Speaker 1>bugs in your home or in your mattress. But I

0:47:17.200 --> 0:47:21.200
<v Speaker 1>started thinking, all right, if I'm a pest control company,

0:47:21.280 --> 0:47:25.440
<v Speaker 1>either I number one, get a dog and train it

0:47:25.480 --> 0:47:29.200
<v Speaker 1>to always smell bed bugs, whether they're there or they're not,

0:47:29.680 --> 0:47:33.040
<v Speaker 1>because then I get to fumigate and charge you extra money.

0:47:33.160 --> 0:47:36.919
<v Speaker 1>Or alternatively, I get a dog that can't smell shit

0:47:37.520 --> 0:47:41.960
<v Speaker 1>and charge you for bringing the dog in. And then

0:47:42.160 --> 0:47:44.880
<v Speaker 1>the dog was like, I don't know, I don't smell nothing,

0:47:45.200 --> 0:47:47.759
<v Speaker 1>and then you just stick with bed bugs and I

0:47:47.840 --> 0:47:53.520
<v Speaker 1>still have to come and fumigate later. Or the dog okay,

0:47:53.600 --> 0:47:57.440
<v Speaker 1>it's a dog sniffing that dog killing uh huh. So

0:47:57.920 --> 0:48:00.920
<v Speaker 1>so you know the dog just like, yeah, got big bucks.

0:48:01.520 --> 0:48:05.640
<v Speaker 1>You're like, yeah, so okay, do something. I got fleas,

0:48:05.920 --> 0:48:11.799
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, now player, I got my own problems. Matter

0:48:11.800 --> 0:48:18.080
<v Speaker 1>of fact, you got fleas down too. Hey player, I

0:48:18.120 --> 0:48:20.640
<v Speaker 1>ain't gonna lie to you. You got some more problems

0:48:20.680 --> 0:48:22.560
<v Speaker 1>that you go. I have to deal with because I

0:48:22.600 --> 0:48:24.600
<v Speaker 1>got I got bad news, and I got worse news.

0:48:26.840 --> 0:48:30.240
<v Speaker 1>The bad news is the bites on your face are

0:48:29.760 --> 0:48:33.320
<v Speaker 1>a bad Bucks. The good news or the worst news

0:48:33.440 --> 0:48:35.520
<v Speaker 1>is you're gonna have some other bites on your face

0:48:36.880 --> 0:48:40.800
<v Speaker 1>be bad bucks, They're gonna be something else. The terrible

0:48:40.880 --> 0:48:47.719
<v Speaker 1>news is I gotta go shaking out fleas. And the

0:48:47.760 --> 0:48:50.160
<v Speaker 1>heartbreaking news is I can't be here no more. Man.

0:48:50.200 --> 0:48:51.799
<v Speaker 1>My owners said, I gotta get up out of here.

0:48:51.880 --> 0:48:54.719
<v Speaker 1>So I'm gonnall ad you good luck with your little

0:48:54.719 --> 0:48:58.959
<v Speaker 1>infestation wolf wolf and all that piece out? Which which

0:48:58.960 --> 0:49:04.600
<v Speaker 1>way is that decap? I got to go. I love

0:49:04.640 --> 0:49:06.920
<v Speaker 1>that the dog can sniff out bad bugs, but you

0:49:07.000 --> 0:49:09.360
<v Speaker 1>don't know which way the dick alp to stop it?

0:49:10.200 --> 0:49:17.080
<v Speaker 1>The misdirection. It's too hard. You don't known. Man. Here's

0:49:17.080 --> 0:49:19.239
<v Speaker 1>the last little bit that I'll give you. And this

0:49:19.280 --> 0:49:23.520
<v Speaker 1>heart made me feel especially sad is that more often

0:49:23.560 --> 0:49:27.280
<v Speaker 1>than not, when bed bugs are biting, when they're actually

0:49:27.360 --> 0:49:30.719
<v Speaker 1>like fucking people up with like those sort of infamous

0:49:30.960 --> 0:49:34.160
<v Speaker 1>bedbug bites that you see all over people's bodies and

0:49:34.160 --> 0:49:38.840
<v Speaker 1>faces that is in fact coming from an a allergic reaction.

0:49:39.360 --> 0:49:43.479
<v Speaker 1>That bed bug bites themselves don't show up very well

0:49:43.920 --> 0:49:46.960
<v Speaker 1>the first couple of rounds for for the average person

0:49:47.000 --> 0:49:49.799
<v Speaker 1>who isn't allergic to bed bugs. And so in a

0:49:49.880 --> 0:49:54.239
<v Speaker 1>lot of cases, people can have bedbugs and never know it,

0:49:54.360 --> 0:49:56.600
<v Speaker 1>or at least not know it for a very long

0:49:56.680 --> 0:50:00.840
<v Speaker 1>time because they're not having an allergic reaction into the bites.

0:50:01.600 --> 0:50:03.719
<v Speaker 1>So we all might have them. They might just all

0:50:03.920 --> 0:50:07.080
<v Speaker 1>the little good night, let don't let the bad bugs,

0:50:07.160 --> 0:50:11.839
<v Speaker 1>might might just be part of the deal good sorry,

0:50:11.960 --> 0:50:16.880
<v Speaker 1>so genetically like you're not even aware because you're not

0:50:16.960 --> 0:50:20.960
<v Speaker 1>allergic to him and I had it' isn't that crazy?

0:50:21.200 --> 0:50:29.720
<v Speaker 1>Between nineteen five I heard nothing of bad bugs from

0:50:29.760 --> 0:50:33.480
<v Speaker 1>from me hearing that song as a child, as a toddler.

0:50:34.320 --> 0:50:39.400
<v Speaker 1>Twenty it took twenty more years for it to return. Coincidence,

0:50:40.160 --> 0:50:43.400
<v Speaker 1>I think, I think by your argument, it is in

0:50:43.440 --> 0:50:47.160
<v Speaker 1>fact not a coincidence, and big bad bug is behind

0:50:47.239 --> 0:50:50.440
<v Speaker 1>this whole thing, and it's ultimately ruining our world. It's

0:50:50.520 --> 0:50:53.759
<v Speaker 1>ruining everything. It was a sad time in Brooklyn, man,

0:50:54.080 --> 0:50:56.600
<v Speaker 1>because that's all people talked about. But then nobody wants

0:50:56.600 --> 0:51:00.480
<v Speaker 1>to talk about it because as you called, you call

0:51:00.520 --> 0:51:04.520
<v Speaker 1>me dirt. Yes, Yes, the shame, it's it's a very

0:51:04.600 --> 0:51:07.440
<v Speaker 1>shameful thing. And everything that I read is is it

0:51:07.640 --> 0:51:12.600
<v Speaker 1>says how important that shame is in selling these products,

0:51:12.640 --> 0:51:17.160
<v Speaker 1>that it's always about discretion and keeping things quiet. And

0:51:17.239 --> 0:51:19.880
<v Speaker 1>even though they can't prove that these products work, people

0:51:20.320 --> 0:51:24.040
<v Speaker 1>grapple onto grabbing and buying these products because of the

0:51:24.120 --> 0:51:27.359
<v Speaker 1>possibility that maybe if I spread this stuff, or maybe

0:51:27.360 --> 0:51:30.319
<v Speaker 1>if I fumiligate this way, or if I get you

0:51:30.320 --> 0:51:32.840
<v Speaker 1>know this seat this dog who don't speak English to

0:51:32.920 --> 0:51:35.399
<v Speaker 1>come into my home and sniff them out, I can

0:51:35.440 --> 0:51:38.920
<v Speaker 1>avoid the shame of people realizing I am, in fact

0:51:39.239 --> 0:51:45.600
<v Speaker 1>a bedbug owner. Dude. The biggest people hoardering light, soul

0:51:45.840 --> 0:51:51.240
<v Speaker 1>and anti and disinfectant stuff. We're people who call COVID

0:51:51.280 --> 0:51:55.600
<v Speaker 1>of hoax. Yep, it's like COVID to hoax. Yeah, but

0:51:55.719 --> 0:51:57.600
<v Speaker 1>it's people who don't think that, and I know how

0:51:57.640 --> 0:52:00.560
<v Speaker 1>to take advantage of it. M h. There it is.

0:52:00.920 --> 0:52:03.480
<v Speaker 1>This is all just a big scheme. We're gonna take

0:52:03.520 --> 0:52:05.800
<v Speaker 1>one more break. We'll be back with more Clark Jones

0:52:05.840 --> 0:52:35.000
<v Speaker 1>and more. My mama told me, and we are bad. Yeah,

0:52:35.360 --> 0:52:38.440
<v Speaker 1>We're back here with more like Jones, more of my

0:52:38.560 --> 0:52:42.399
<v Speaker 1>mama told me. We're unpacking the way that capitalism has

0:52:42.440 --> 0:52:45.800
<v Speaker 1>strategized ways to ruin every part of our lives, including

0:52:45.800 --> 0:52:48.880
<v Speaker 1>our sleep. And now we're gonna play a game, Clark.

0:52:49.080 --> 0:52:51.719
<v Speaker 1>This is this is a fun game. I'm gonna introduce

0:52:51.760 --> 0:52:53.520
<v Speaker 1>to you a very fun game that I think you're

0:52:53.520 --> 0:52:57.319
<v Speaker 1>gonna enjoy. Its call white lies. Ugly. You're disgusting. I'm

0:52:57.320 --> 0:53:01.320
<v Speaker 1>gonna kill you. Give me two hundred dollars. Okay, white lies.

0:53:02.280 --> 0:53:04.440
<v Speaker 1>It's a very fun game in which I am going

0:53:04.520 --> 0:53:08.960
<v Speaker 1>to introduce to you a traditional white conspiracy, one that

0:53:09.000 --> 0:53:12.640
<v Speaker 1>white people have supported to some degree for years now.

0:53:12.880 --> 0:53:15.759
<v Speaker 1>And I would love for you to unpack why you

0:53:15.800 --> 0:53:20.759
<v Speaker 1>think this conspiracy is so important to white people. What

0:53:20.840 --> 0:53:23.360
<v Speaker 1>do you think they're holding onto? What are these sneaky

0:53:23.400 --> 0:53:27.120
<v Speaker 1>motherfucker's up to? Do you know what I'm saying? Okay,

0:53:27.120 --> 0:53:29.920
<v Speaker 1>hell yeah, your conspiracy today. And this is my first

0:53:29.960 --> 0:53:32.759
<v Speaker 1>time hearing this one, but it's very exciting for me.

0:53:33.080 --> 0:53:38.759
<v Speaker 1>Your conspiracy today, uh comes from the movie Frozen. The

0:53:38.840 --> 0:53:43.399
<v Speaker 1>movie Frozen is where your conspiracy lives. But apparently there

0:53:43.400 --> 0:53:46.400
<v Speaker 1>are some people who believe I'm sure you've heard this before,

0:53:46.480 --> 0:53:50.560
<v Speaker 1>that that uh, Walt Disney froze his head, right that

0:53:50.680 --> 0:53:53.920
<v Speaker 1>when he when he died. There's a theory that Walt

0:53:53.960 --> 0:53:58.520
<v Speaker 1>Disney may have froken, had his head cryogenically frozen, so

0:53:58.560 --> 0:54:01.600
<v Speaker 1>that he could he could ring himself back in the

0:54:01.640 --> 0:54:06.200
<v Speaker 1>future at some point. Right. There are some people who

0:54:06.239 --> 0:54:10.800
<v Speaker 1>believe that the movie Frozen is in fact just a big,

0:54:11.520 --> 0:54:14.600
<v Speaker 1>a big ruse. It was written just as a way

0:54:14.640 --> 0:54:18.279
<v Speaker 1>to throw off the algorithm on Google, so that when

0:54:18.320 --> 0:54:21.920
<v Speaker 1>you type in Disney Frozen, the first thing that pops

0:54:22.040 --> 0:54:26.000
<v Speaker 1>up is not Walt Disney's frozen head. But it's in

0:54:26.080 --> 0:54:32.640
<v Speaker 1>fact this now multibillion dollar film and and subsidies and

0:54:32.719 --> 0:54:34.960
<v Speaker 1>all the things that were born out of it. My

0:54:35.160 --> 0:54:38.239
<v Speaker 1>question for you is why do you think white people

0:54:38.280 --> 0:54:43.920
<v Speaker 1>are so invested in this conspiracy? Well? Can I say

0:54:43.920 --> 0:54:49.520
<v Speaker 1>a couple of things. First, Yes, this is probably true.

0:54:51.840 --> 0:54:54.279
<v Speaker 1>You gotta say why. You can't just leave it at that.

0:54:54.760 --> 0:55:00.920
<v Speaker 1>Ted Williams is crogenically frozen. M hmmm. The baseball player, um, Boston,

0:55:01.040 --> 0:55:05.919
<v Speaker 1>where you have spent a lot of time. I thought

0:55:05.960 --> 0:55:07.680
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna say where you're from, and I was gonna

0:55:07.719 --> 0:55:14.120
<v Speaker 1>fistfight you VI where you learn how to do comedy.

0:55:15.520 --> 0:55:19.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't. It's hard to say. Let me just say

0:55:19.480 --> 0:55:21.520
<v Speaker 1>to the white people who are holding onto this, like,

0:55:22.120 --> 0:55:26.759
<v Speaker 1>you don't need to freeze walk Disney like his racism

0:55:26.800 --> 0:55:30.799
<v Speaker 1>is alive and well there's no there's no need. It's

0:55:30.840 --> 0:55:32.640
<v Speaker 1>like they're freezing them to say, oh, just in case

0:55:32.640 --> 0:55:37.680
<v Speaker 1>we run out of racism. Oh, nobody imagined racism the

0:55:37.719 --> 0:55:41.880
<v Speaker 1>way that Walt Disney him. He had a whimsical approach

0:55:42.280 --> 0:55:45.879
<v Speaker 1>makes it enjoyable. He wrote songs, He turned Mickey Mouse

0:55:45.960 --> 0:55:50.480
<v Speaker 1>into a caricature, did like it's it's fine, it's on

0:55:50.600 --> 0:55:56.759
<v Speaker 1>break part, it's on that new the racist Twitter. If

0:55:56.800 --> 0:55:59.960
<v Speaker 1>you holding onto it, you don't have to, it's it's fine.

0:56:00.239 --> 0:56:03.680
<v Speaker 1>It's well, so yeah, I think that's why they like,

0:56:03.840 --> 0:56:08.879
<v Speaker 1>just like whenever we just need man me, I'm sure

0:56:09.680 --> 0:56:17.279
<v Speaker 1>is somewhere is somebody locker literally right. So, so to

0:56:17.360 --> 0:56:21.000
<v Speaker 1>your point, this is them holding onto the whimsy of

0:56:21.160 --> 0:56:26.319
<v Speaker 1>like an antiquated racism and the belief that frozen was

0:56:26.400 --> 0:56:31.120
<v Speaker 1>somehow a protection against that is really just adding to

0:56:31.320 --> 0:56:36.000
<v Speaker 1>the mystique of Walt Disney and his his brilliance that like,

0:56:36.080 --> 0:56:39.839
<v Speaker 1>oh he planned that you know, eventually people would know

0:56:39.920 --> 0:56:41.840
<v Speaker 1>that his head was frozen and they would have to

0:56:41.880 --> 0:56:46.400
<v Speaker 1>protect his his identity or protect his choice via this film.

0:56:46.719 --> 0:56:50.000
<v Speaker 1>There's got to be a study on how many pages

0:56:50.120 --> 0:56:54.600
<v Speaker 1>deep people go on Google searches. Oh, it's gotta be

0:56:54.760 --> 0:56:58.440
<v Speaker 1>like on average people. I think I've at most, I've

0:56:58.480 --> 0:57:01.520
<v Speaker 1>gone to like the eighth thing age, Well you've gone

0:57:01.600 --> 0:57:05.160
<v Speaker 1>crazy D. That is deep, right, Yeah, that's what I thought,

0:57:05.160 --> 0:57:07.400
<v Speaker 1>Like eight pages is kind of I forgot what it

0:57:07.440 --> 0:57:10.319
<v Speaker 1>was for, but it was. Oh, I mean, you could

0:57:10.320 --> 0:57:12.759
<v Speaker 1>say it's born, this ain't a family show. You could

0:57:12.760 --> 0:57:16.960
<v Speaker 1>just say there's a there's a specific set of titties

0:57:17.080 --> 0:57:20.000
<v Speaker 1>that I I remember and I would love to see again.

0:57:20.480 --> 0:57:23.720
<v Speaker 1>Adam twenty two from the No Jumper podcast got a

0:57:23.800 --> 0:57:27.720
<v Speaker 1>video They used to be readily available. All of a sudden,

0:57:27.760 --> 0:57:31.160
<v Speaker 1>every fucking everybody deleted it. It can't be found. You

0:57:31.160 --> 0:57:34.280
<v Speaker 1>can't even buy it. That's how that it is. So

0:57:34.320 --> 0:57:38.040
<v Speaker 1>I went a pages D and I still can't find it.

0:57:38.560 --> 0:57:42.120
<v Speaker 1>So I think, like, if you type Disney frozen by

0:57:42.160 --> 0:57:44.760
<v Speaker 1>the ninth page, you should come up with something or

0:57:44.800 --> 0:57:49.160
<v Speaker 1>just skip to three. Sure, I think, and this is

0:57:49.200 --> 0:57:52.760
<v Speaker 1>what pr people are constantly. This is the whole point

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<v Speaker 1>of their job is that the Google algorithm. Actually, they

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<v Speaker 1>say that at the point that it's on the second page,

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<v Speaker 1>it no longer is an issue for people that like,

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<v Speaker 1>literally nobody goes past the first page for their Google searches.

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<v Speaker 1>So what you really want is to just get the

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<v Speaker 1>ship off the front page, and you're pretty much good

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<v Speaker 1>no matter what it is, including, you know, freezing your

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<v Speaker 1>head or forcefully coming on a lady in a way

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<v Speaker 1>that she didn't want to, whatever it may be. What

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<v Speaker 1>if what if Love Disney's head was one of the

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<v Speaker 1>fake audiences, like the NBA bubble. This is the ABC

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<v Speaker 1>partnership that they agreed to. You're gonna have to put

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<v Speaker 1>the froze a head front round, saluting Hitler, drawing, doing

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<v Speaker 1>all types of crazy walk duds and stuff. I would

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<v Speaker 1>love it if the frozen Walt Disney head was sitting

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<v Speaker 1>right next to Barack Obama when they forced him to

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<v Speaker 1>like give a motivational speech in the middle of the

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<v Speaker 1>NBA bubble where he was like, hey, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>remember the vote fellas and shocks, sitting there nodding like

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't understand what they time. He's underneath the Black

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<v Speaker 1>Lives Matter symbol just put just Walt Disney, he didin't

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<v Speaker 1>got no fingers, but he wants to flick you off.

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<v Speaker 1>You better believe you can get right. He's just sticking

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<v Speaker 1>his tongue out at Black Lives Matter pin in hand.

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<v Speaker 1>But just listen. I believe now. I'm I'm sold that

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<v Speaker 1>Walt Disney froze and said too, You're good at conspiracy theories. Clark.

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<v Speaker 1>You did it. You really nailed being a psychopath with me.

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<v Speaker 1>And I appreciate that. I'm in the basement. Hell yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so that part this was beautiful. Could you tell the

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<v Speaker 1>people at home where they can find you what cool

0:59:39.880 --> 0:59:42.160
<v Speaker 1>ship you have going on? Do I want it to

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<v Speaker 1>after this? Uh? At the Clark Jones t e Clark

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<v Speaker 1>Jones on on on Instagram and Twitter. We have some

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<v Speaker 1>fun over there, man. This has been really, really a

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<v Speaker 1>good time. And I haven't store Classic Black Customs. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Clark does some some dope ship, customizing clothes and shoes

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<v Speaker 1>and making everything look fly and and uh yeah, y'all

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<v Speaker 1>shoot check them out. Check out his et C store,

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<v Speaker 1>listen to his insane theories, and then go buy things

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<v Speaker 1>from him on Etsy. And as always, you can follow

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<v Speaker 1>me at Lengthston Kerman and please, if you have any drops,

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<v Speaker 1>if you have any additional conspiracy theories, if you have

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<v Speaker 1>any voicemails that you would like to send us, you

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<v Speaker 1>can send all of that to my mama pod at

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<v Speaker 1>gmail dot com. I would love to hear from you.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh yeah, by Chips, racist money can't tell me