Speaker 1: Well, well, well we are back. The playoffs are the
Speaker 1: best they've ever been. In my opinion, I am still
Speaker 1: coming in off the high of a Celtics loss. I
Speaker 1: answered the question what feels better six Ers win or
Speaker 1: Celtic's loss.
Speaker 2: Yes, Celtics loss.
Speaker 1: For me, because yeah, I felt real good after that.
Speaker 1: It's been an amazing playoffs. Lebron, a d Jimmy Butler.
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about it all on this week's episode,
Speaker 1: featuring a first timer from fan duel Ken Rudolph. On
Speaker 1: today's episode, I am Jack O'Brien and I'm Jabari and
Speaker 1: for Miles, and this is Miles.
Speaker 3: Davis, lebron and be driving Spinny Curry a three.
Speaker 4: Steph Curry from don Tell again be honest with the
Speaker 4: terror look out.
Speaker 2: Shut time you go.
Speaker 1: Ken, thank you so much for joining us FanDuel analysts
Speaker 1: former Sacramento based radio hosts. What's going on?
Speaker 4: Everything?
Speaker 1: Everything?
Speaker 5: Thanks going on?
Speaker 1: Yes it is.
Speaker 5: My squad's got a good game five, So that's all
Speaker 5: I'm focused.
Speaker 4: Well that in the Derby.
Speaker 5: The Kentucky Derby's coming up too, so that's part of
Speaker 5: my job for FanDuel TV. But that and of course
Speaker 5: getting ready for this game five, messing with the Warriors
Speaker 5: and the Kings.
Speaker 4: I'm gready.
Speaker 1: Do you go to the Kentucky Derby?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 5: Not this year. I've done this so many times.
Speaker 4: I opted out.
Speaker 2: You're over. It's pretty great about that.
Speaker 5: I opted back to stay in the studios in Los Angeles, California,
Speaker 5: and my colleagues they all hit the road near in
Speaker 5: Kentucky right now, getting ready for everything.
Speaker 1: Oh man, little blast. Well, it has to be an
Speaker 1: exciting time to be a Kings fan, just overall feelings.
Speaker 1: I mean, also maybe a pessimistic time. I don't know,
Speaker 1: how are you feeling ahead of Game five, which is
Speaker 1: happening tonight as we're recording this, so listeners will know
Speaker 1: what happened in Game five? We do not, but you know,
Speaker 1: obviously dearon Fox with a broken finger, bummer, but he's
Speaker 1: going to play. He's gonna gut through it. How are
Speaker 1: you feeling?
Speaker 4: Not good?
Speaker 1: All right? Uh?
Speaker 5: Because look, everybody in Sacramento has deep insecurities, and I
Speaker 5: think that you can see that in the social media
Speaker 5: activity from every single fan, every single analyst, anybody who's
Speaker 5: got anything to do with this team. We know that
Speaker 5: we've never won anything, and in order for people to
Speaker 5: respect us, we have to win something.
Speaker 1: So it starts here.
Speaker 4: So we needed to take the three one lead. We
Speaker 4: had to do that.
Speaker 5: We needed to sweep this team. To be honest with you,
Speaker 5: if we really wanted it to be a factor, we
Speaker 5: needed to sweep this team. And now that we have not,
Speaker 5: we are in trouble. And then we got our point
Speaker 5: guard with his tip of his left finger like, come on, man, like,
Speaker 5: are you serious?
Speaker 1: Sports gods?
Speaker 5: Really y'all want to do this to us right now?
Speaker 1: Come on, man, now, it sounds like you're mad at
Speaker 1: the sports gods, as opposed to Stephen A. Smith, who
Speaker 1: seems to get mad at the players who get injured.
Speaker 6: It seems to be his approach where he's just like,
Speaker 6: Kawhi is a disgrace. Ad ad La will never forgive
Speaker 6: him if he gets injured in this playoff.
Speaker 5: He's kind of got a point about some of that,
Speaker 5: in the sense that these are these especially those two
Speaker 5: players you talk about ad and Kawhi. Man I love
Speaker 5: Kawhi because he's just so under the radar, but these
Speaker 5: are two marquee players who, with all due respect, you
Speaker 5: can't count.
Speaker 4: On when you need them.
Speaker 2: Like what is that.
Speaker 5: Like, so I get what he's saying, but it's pretty
Speaker 5: tough to put it back the onus back on the player,
Speaker 5: like they don't have.
Speaker 2: The heart, they don't have crime.
Speaker 4: Just well, stuff's just not working out for them. It's tough.
Speaker 4: That's exactly where I would even go with this. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 4: it's one thing to point out the fact that they're
Speaker 4: not available. It's a whole other thing to say like, oh,
Speaker 4: you piece of junk, you know, or make it sound
Speaker 4: like that, Yeah.
Speaker 5: That's not cool at all, because we know whys got
Speaker 5: heart and we know he's got that dog in him,
Speaker 5: as they say, we know that, dude, Yeah it's around.
Speaker 5: So if he can't go, man, there must be something
Speaker 5: really going on. But then again, we got the problem
Speaker 5: of dealing with the legacy of Kobe, and so we
Speaker 5: saw a guy like Kobe play through whatever, right and
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, it didn't matter what was
Speaker 5: happening with Kobe. He's like, oh no, I'm playing, this
Speaker 5: is happening right now. I'm like, so we're trying to
Speaker 5: measure all these other great players up to that, and
Speaker 5: that's impossible.
Speaker 4: There's no way that anytime we are trying to compare.
Speaker 4: You know, anybody that's all time at something, if you know,
Speaker 4: and he would have been all time, you know, not
Speaker 4: just on the court, but at specifically playing through pain.
Speaker 4: It's going to be difficult to compare. It really is.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, But I feel like Darreon Fox is
Speaker 5: he's a really special He's really really special, and people
Speaker 5: don't understand what it feels like for these young players
Speaker 5: at the age of twenty one twenty two to be
Speaker 5: quote unquote handed the keys to a franchise and then
Speaker 5: have the confidence to look in the mirror and look
Speaker 5: at that owner's face and be like, I got you,
Speaker 5: let's go, and then to take you there. Man, Can
Speaker 5: you imagine what that's like as a young person, the
Speaker 5: confidence that's like Darren Fox took those keys from the
Speaker 5: VEC round of Dvans and I got you, boss, let's go.
Speaker 5: And then four or five years later, here we are
Speaker 5: and he had to make a lot of improvements. I
Speaker 5: have to say one personal thing about the Aaron Fox that.
Speaker 3: I really really like.
Speaker 5: Two seasons ago on social media, we were talking myself
Speaker 5: my friends in Sacramento who do radio with the Kings,
Speaker 5: and I was saying look, I just need one thing
Speaker 5: from my point guard. I need my point guard to
Speaker 5: make his free throws in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 4: That would be great. That was my tweet.
Speaker 5: The Aaron Fox came through and liked that tweet, and
Speaker 5: I was like, that dude right there knows exactly what's
Speaker 5: supposed to happen. He knows exactly what his responsibility is.
Speaker 5: He didn't shy away from that. He didn't send some
Speaker 5: comment to me. He just liked that tweet. I think
Speaker 5: he just kind of recorded the fact that he needed
Speaker 5: to do that. I wasn't being personal. I wasn't talking
Speaker 5: about his mama. I wasn't talking about his family. I
Speaker 5: wasn't talk about nothing but him making free throws in
Speaker 5: the fourth quarter as the point guard. That was it,
Speaker 5: And I was like, you know what, Okay, he knows
Speaker 5: what's happening. He knows what he needs to do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right. Well, before we get to the Western Conference,
Speaker 1: the Eastern Conference has been entertaining unpredictable this week. Let's
Speaker 1: check in Keap Bucks. Giannis has missed a couple games,
Speaker 1: missed Game two and Milwaukee was able to win it,
Speaker 1: but then up to one. Jimmy Butler comes through in
Speaker 1: Game four, puts up twenty four in the first half.
Speaker 1: This game, Yannis is back, and I'm gonna say this
Speaker 1: is maybe the best individual performance in a playoff game
Speaker 1: I've seen since either Yiannis against the Suns in the finals,
Speaker 1: or maybe even Lebron against the Celtics that one year
Speaker 1: where he just came in, like completely locked in, came
Speaker 1: into Boston and just twenty twelve kind of assassinated them.
Speaker 1: But I don't know, it was really like a singular
Speaker 1: experience watching him in that fourth quarter where the Bucks
Speaker 1: knew what was happening, He knew what was happening. He
Speaker 1: was the only person he just fully put his team
Speaker 1: on his back. And there's something that like did you
Speaker 1: see the postgame interview where the sideline reporter was like, why,
Speaker 1: how do you make it look so easy? And he
Speaker 1: was like, it's not easy. Yeah, he doesn't make it
Speaker 1: look easy. He makes it look hard. And that's what's
Speaker 1: like crazy is he always looks like I don't know,
Speaker 1: it reminds me of how im fast and furious when
Speaker 1: Vin Diesel like appears to just be like driving harder
Speaker 1: than the other person, Like he's just like.
Speaker 2: Flexing, like holding the wheel and then he.
Speaker 1: Just like presses the like like it's like the harder
Speaker 1: you press the pedal, the faster the car goes. But
Speaker 1: like that's what Jimmy Butler actually feels like. It feels
Speaker 1: like he is playing like he's just decided, like, all right,
Speaker 1: I have twenty extra percent to give and I'm going
Speaker 1: to try that much harder to make it go in.
Speaker 1: And he looks like he's using every last cell of
Speaker 1: energy in his body. But it's just never been as
Speaker 1: effective as it was in a game that Like, I
Speaker 1: don't think anybody thought they were gonna win. They were,
Speaker 1: they were down, and then suddenly they were up one.
Speaker 4: So look, I'm gonna be completely honest with you. When
Speaker 4: I heard that quote, I thought, well, how the heck
Speaker 4: is that possible? Like not, you know, not that it
Speaker 4: you know, not that he makes it like the impossible happen,
Speaker 4: But it very much looks like he's working and grinding
Speaker 4: for each one like he's basketball Tupac. Remember how Tupac
Speaker 4: like in every lyric, it's just like.
Speaker 2: Felt intent.
Speaker 4: You felt like Pa could just be coming on the
Speaker 4: on the track with a regular thing, but it just
Speaker 4: felt a little different. That's how it feels for Jimmy
Speaker 4: with me when I'm watching him, especially in the postseason.
Speaker 3: Yeah, probably looks that way because he's doing it by himself.
Speaker 4: Yeah Yeah, it looks hard for sure. Man.
Speaker 1: So we were looking at the history of three to
Speaker 1: one comebacks in NBA playoffs. There hasn't been any since
Speaker 1: the Bubble. I don't think where the Nuggets did it twice,
Speaker 1: but it's pretty rare. And yet I feel like we're
Speaker 1: about to get a three to one comeback. As much
Speaker 1: as I wish it was the Hawks, It's probably not
Speaker 1: gonna be the Hawks, but I could really see Milwaukee
Speaker 1: coming back from this. This reminds me of last season's
Speaker 1: heat Celtic's Eastern Conference Finals, where it felt like Jimmy
Speaker 1: Butler was the only person who could like really do
Speaker 1: anything in that and like he only had a finite
Speaker 1: amount of energy and intensity to give and he just
Speaker 1: like kind of saved it all for the very end
Speaker 1: of Game seven, and it just like wasn't enough. It
Speaker 1: was like two inches short of being enough. I just
Speaker 1: wonder if he's gonna have another game like that in him,
Speaker 1: And if he doesn't, then how do they beat Milwaukee?
Speaker 1: And again, they might have already and did the series
Speaker 1: by the time people are listening to this. But I
Speaker 1: just I don't feel like it's wild. They are up
Speaker 1: three to one and twelve point underdogs tonight.
Speaker 4: That's unheard of.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the Heat series.
Speaker 2: No big deal.
Speaker 1: Just one of the best performances I've ever seen from
Speaker 1: an individual player in the history of the NBA Knicks Cavs. Again,
Speaker 1: I have no idea what's going to happen in this series.
Speaker 1: What we did. We've delayed the recording this week and
Speaker 1: the day that we chose to record on has four
Speaker 1: playoff games that are all close out games except for
Speaker 1: except for the Kings series. So three three of the
Speaker 1: four close that games. So basketball gods, Well.
Speaker 4: Let me let me ask this. You know, to the
Speaker 4: point that you've been making, Jack, if we were to
Speaker 4: pick a series that we could see the team coming
Speaker 4: back from three to one, I hear you when you
Speaker 4: say it's probably not going to be the Subjects. But
Speaker 4: you know, as as funny as it seems, they being
Speaker 4: the Hawks, you know they're the one team that has
Speaker 4: at least started to reverse course. You know they're down
Speaker 4: three to two. But Ken, I'm interested in your opinion.
Speaker 4: Do you think any of the other three one series
Speaker 4: that the team that's behind has a chance.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, obviously in Milwaukee, they definitely have a
Speaker 3: chance to turn that around. That's the only twelve yeah,
Speaker 3: else WHENNA be, Milwaukee's the only thing. Milwaukee's the only team.
Speaker 3: I feel like they can turn that around because of
Speaker 3: the just the way that team plays, and of course
Speaker 3: the presidence of Joanna. If he's ready to go and
Speaker 3: get the things going in his direction, meaning he's dominating
Speaker 3: down there low, he's athletic and moving around, I think
Speaker 3: Minnesota can turn I mean, Milwaukee's use me could turn
Speaker 3: that thing around entirely because they've got that championship DNA.
Speaker 3: Everybody else I really don't know. And I gotta be
Speaker 3: honest with you. I do not pay attention to anybody
Speaker 3: else except the Sacramento King. I'm the opposite of the
Speaker 3: national media, So the national media pays attention to everybody
Speaker 3: plus the King. I pay attention to the King and
Speaker 3: nobody else. I don't care about nobody diding fifty points
Speaker 3: in the playoffs if your team doesn't win the championship.
Speaker 4: So it's Ring or Bust or Sacramento or bust got it?
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, like Jimmy Buckets can get fifty poet team
Speaker 3: while he wants to when they're gonna win a championship
Speaker 3: in Miami with him, what are they gonna have?
Speaker 4: So I'm was like, oh, man.
Speaker 1: Out right this year, but we'll no, Well, they got
Speaker 1: their second best score is as a broken hands. So yeah,
Speaker 1: Nick's Calves. I mean, my friends who are Cavs fans
Speaker 1: think that this might be the one that's coming back
Speaker 1: from three to one. I don't think that necessarily, but
Speaker 1: we'll see. Uh. Yeah, it seemed more evenly matched heading
Speaker 1: in than it has looked to this point.
Speaker 4: And that's the thing, you know, coming in, you know,
Speaker 4: we we went back and forth about this, uh you're
Speaker 4: heading into the postseason, Like specifically, we thought the Calves
Speaker 4: would fare well. Not that not that we were discounting
Speaker 4: the Clippers, but given the fact that the Calves had
Speaker 4: all of those, you know, the offensive weapons, we thought,
Speaker 4: you know, in a series in particular, that might make
Speaker 4: a difference. But we just haven't seen that. And even
Speaker 4: though the Knicks they haven't gotten great performances out of
Speaker 4: you know, out of Julius Randall, they haven't even gotten
Speaker 4: great stuff out of IQ. If I'm not mistaken, he's
Speaker 4: actually out for Game five. They have still found a
Speaker 4: way to you know, grit and grind it, I guess.
Speaker 4: And that's really a testament to Tom Thibodeau and the
Speaker 4: defense that he has those guys playing.
Speaker 1: And I mean, oh, le Brunson is you know, he's
Speaker 1: been good all season, but like now we're looking at
Speaker 1: where the Knicks are versus where the MAVs are without him,
Speaker 1: Like and I just feel like he's got that game
Speaker 1: manager and that dog in him, both things, but like
Speaker 1: game manager to the degree that like, you know, not
Speaker 1: not an insult, but more of a Tom Brady type
Speaker 1: game manager, where like game manager and really like an
Speaker 1: effective player who might end up being something absolutely special.
Speaker 1: He just gets wins. Yeah, I would take him on
Speaker 1: the Sixers. You would I would take him.
Speaker 4: You know, I know it's crazy, but I would take
Speaker 4: Jalen Brunson.
Speaker 1: Knicks fans, you heard it here, if you want to
Speaker 1: get the talk started, we would take him with the Sixers.
Speaker 1: Speaking of the Sixers, this is my team. I do
Speaker 1: pay attention to other teams because I can't. I can't
Speaker 1: put all my eggs in this basket ken. It's it's
Speaker 1: too painful. This is as pessimistic as I've ever been
Speaker 1: heading into the second round with since I became a
Speaker 1: Sixers fan. And they've never made it out of the
Speaker 1: second round in my you know, in modern history, and
Speaker 1: none of those have been a surprise, and yet this
Speaker 1: is as pessimistic as I've ever been. I also think
Speaker 1: this is as pessimistic as I've ever seen a fan
Speaker 1: base coming out of a sweep.
Speaker 4: The only team that swept, the only team that.
Speaker 1: Swept, and every Sixers fan I talked to is like,
Speaker 1: we're screwed, man, this is terrible, Like the Celtics are
Speaker 1: gonna kill us. And also when I say that to
Speaker 1: people who aren't Sixers fans, they're like, yeah, man, you guys,
Speaker 1: the Celtics are going to kill you. And I will
Speaker 1: just say it. All of that being said, I've never
Speaker 1: wanted them to defeat a team as much as I
Speaker 1: want them to beat the Celtics. The last time I
Speaker 1: can remember something like that is the year that the
Speaker 1: Red Sox went down three to zero to the Yankees,
Speaker 1: and they had just gotten beat by the Yankees over
Speaker 1: and over and over again. And you know, as a
Speaker 1: Red Sox fan, we were just like it's it's over,
Speaker 1: it's not happening. But there was just like the sheer
Speaker 1: amount of like belief and want and like desire from
Speaker 1: the fan base just like kind of carried that fan
Speaker 1: like that's the only thing I'm having to resort to,
Speaker 1: like cross sports magical thinking here, but like that, that
Speaker 1: is what it feels like. And when you listen to
Speaker 1: like Bill Simmons talking about Embiid getting hurt on his
Speaker 1: podcast with just an audible like beaming grin on his
Speaker 1: face and like he had Heralabos vulgaris like the guy
Speaker 1: who is like a professional gambler. He was like, well,
Speaker 1: the Sixers aren't a serious team. Like just every six
Speaker 1: every Celtics fan you hear from, is so dismissive the Sixers.
Speaker 1: He gave him the logan, Roy that you're not serious people,
Speaker 1: Like he was like, the Sixers aren't a serious team,
Speaker 1: Like they're not. I think the thing that is painful
Speaker 1: is that I agree with him, but I really would love,
Speaker 1: would love for them to give the Celtics a serious
Speaker 1: and his Torchard, Yeah, it is painful.
Speaker 4: Well, kN Ken, you just you just alluded to something.
Speaker 4: Jack and I were discussing in the pre show, what
Speaker 4: is it about Doc that because you said you try,
Speaker 4: you sure out said it's their coach. To this point,
Speaker 4: he's done pretty good, you know, pretty well this season
Speaker 4: this season. Yes, man, I don't know what it is
Speaker 4: about Doc.
Speaker 3: I don't know why he can't get over the hump,
Speaker 3: and I think a lot of it might be for
Speaker 3: some reason he's still in his mind. Like if you
Speaker 3: listen to him talk, he still references Boss. Yes, he's
Speaker 3: still references There wasn't hurt. We would have won. Like, Bro,
Speaker 3: if you can't get your team to push through without
Speaker 3: your big man, that that closed things up in the
Speaker 3: middle there. If you can't find a way to get
Speaker 3: that team to push on through, then I don't know
Speaker 3: why you're still referencing that series. And then you know
Speaker 3: just the history that he has. I don't know if
Speaker 3: to be honest with you, I'm obviously not a coach,
Speaker 3: but we've all watched enough basketball to be able to
Speaker 3: build these things around. I feel like I don't know
Speaker 3: if he makes Ajustice yeah right, like if things aren't
Speaker 3: working for his team. I haven't seen a situation where
Speaker 3: Doc Rivers went into the locker room and made an
Speaker 3: adjustment that made a difference he needed the second half
Speaker 3: of the game or the second half of the series,
Speaker 3: and he has to be able to do that. He's
Speaker 3: been a coach for thirty years, so he must be
Speaker 3: incredible at something. I just don't know if that is
Speaker 3: the thing that he does well.
Speaker 1: When we were looking up all the teams that came
Speaker 1: back from three to one down, I will just say,
Speaker 1: as the person whose team currently has Doc Rivers as
Speaker 1: a coach, was not promising to see how many of
Speaker 1: the teams that were the victims of people coming back
Speaker 1: from through one down. We're coached by him, and I
Speaker 1: think that is the That is the rap that you
Speaker 1: hear is that he doesn't make adjustments, so you know
Speaker 1: they can get three wins, but then the other team
Speaker 1: figures something out and he doesn't in turn figure something
Speaker 1: out on top of that, and so you have situations
Speaker 1: like with the Clippers twice or with Orlando or yeah,
Speaker 1: it almost happened. The year that he won with the Celtics,
Speaker 1: they had a really rocky road through the playoffs, like
Speaker 1: they almost didn't they like go to the game seven
Speaker 1: and round one, like against Chicago. I feel like like
Speaker 1: Chicago was giving them.
Speaker 4: During that run.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they were dominant, like they should have been dominant.
Speaker 1: But anyways, even in round one, even in the series
Speaker 1: that they swept against the Nets, they looked incredibly Embiid
Speaker 1: looked bad in every game that he played in because
Speaker 1: they kept sending a double team and they didn't try
Speaker 1: anything different. Every time they sent a team at him,
Speaker 1: they didn't try anything different, and it was just he
Speaker 1: looked exactly the same every game, which was a little
Speaker 1: bit confused. I mean, he had like a game where
Speaker 1: it was just, yeah, it's it's not confidence inspiring, gives
Speaker 1: me nice resentment which will fuel me to uh root
Speaker 1: really hard. And round two when they face the Celtics,
Speaker 1: I guess.
Speaker 4: Jack, I'm going to stick with this. I still say
Speaker 4: that Embiid he knows how to pass out of the
Speaker 4: double team. They've got plans for, you know, like how
Speaker 4: to counter that. They were just holding back because they
Speaker 4: knew the think we got this. You know, we're up two, oh,
Speaker 4: we're up three to oh, we got this series. We
Speaker 4: want to hold you know, hold this back to stun
Speaker 4: or surprise the Celtics with it, you know, as a
Speaker 4: strategy I'll go out on a limit, say it for you.
Speaker 4: If Embeid is healthy enough to play, you guys are
Speaker 4: going to win that series. The Celtics are going down
Speaker 4: next round.
Speaker 1: You don't put like ten thousand dollars on it.
Speaker 4: I won't put ten thousand, but I'll put ten dollars.
Speaker 2: All right, I'll put ten dollars with you.
Speaker 3: If you measure those by the way that Nicole a joke,
Speaker 3: it's jumped. Those are ten sacks. When do we get
Speaker 3: to the hater segment?
Speaker 1: All right, we're about to, We're about to get there.
Speaker 2: We'll be We're going to take a quick break.
Speaker 1: We'll come back and we'll hit on some of the
Speaker 1: Western Conference matchups and we're back and all right, you
Speaker 1: asked Ken, when when do we get to the hater section?
Speaker 1: During the break? This is the hater section? What are
Speaker 1: your thoughts on Joel Embiid? He's your m v P.
Speaker 1: You were saying during the break, just elaborate on Now
Speaker 1: you're saying you're not a fan, never have been, and
Speaker 1: even you don't get it, which I feel like he's
Speaker 1: pretty easy to underst stand the appeal of a seven
Speaker 1: foot two person with feathery touch, bo what your your thoughts.
Speaker 1: Your thoughts are that he's fools.
Speaker 3: Gold, Okay, he's not. He's obviously got game right, there's
Speaker 3: no doubt about that. You don't even get to this
Speaker 3: level of you don't have games. But for what he's
Speaker 3: supposed to be, which is the franchise player, right league MVP,
Speaker 3: the big man that goos to carry you through the playoffs, right,
Speaker 3: I don't see him doing that enough. I don't see
Speaker 3: him dominating in the playoffs. I know I'm gonna sound
Speaker 3: like Shack on TND three man as what's going maybe,
Speaker 3: But he's supposed to do that, man Joel MB when
Speaker 3: we get to the playoffs, he's supposed to dominate everything
Speaker 3: that's happening inside there. He shoots way too many jump shots,
Speaker 3: and he doesn't just take everything on his back in
Speaker 3: the fourth quarter and say I'm going to the hole,
Speaker 3: foul me. I'm gonna make you foul me. Fucking get
Speaker 3: these shots. He will bail them out with a jump
Speaker 3: shot and then he's hurt all the time. So I'm
Speaker 3: not quite sure what's happening with the modern day player.
Speaker 3: I don't know how many games the chem Olaju want missed,
Speaker 3: but I don't think he knows anything in those two
Speaker 3: year run for the Rocket. And the point is is
Speaker 3: your big man has to be durable, he has to
Speaker 3: be dominant, he has to be a force in the playoffs.
Speaker 3: And I don't see that with Joel indeed at all.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, all right.
Speaker 1: And now Nikola Jokic.
Speaker 3: Like he's different though, because his game has never been
Speaker 3: anything about anything other than finetse. There's nothing physical about
Speaker 3: Jokic at all, and he doesn't pretend to be a
Speaker 3: physical player.
Speaker 1: Defense very little uh physical.
Speaker 3: About that exactly. So I don't expect him all of
Speaker 3: a sudden in the playoffs to be this dude that's
Speaker 3: going to bully you down low. He's just gonna fineesh
Speaker 3: you all the way through and then get his teammates
Speaker 3: into the game. So asking him to be something other
Speaker 3: than what he is in the regular season, or asking
Speaker 3: him to be a different version of what he is
Speaker 3: in the regular season when he comes to the playoffs
Speaker 3: not fair at all. But for Embeed, there are times
Speaker 3: during the regular season where he is a brute force
Speaker 3: down low, he is physical, and then he gets away
Speaker 3: from it and he goes back to then he gets
Speaker 3: away from it again, and I'm like, why do you
Speaker 3: keep doing that? And why does Stot let him do that? Yeah,
Speaker 3: Doc should be like get down there and sit in
Speaker 3: the paint and don't move till I tell you to
Speaker 3: come out of there, or yeah after three seconds one
Speaker 3: of those two. And you know, I feel like he
Speaker 3: just needs to do a lot more. And it's the
Speaker 3: process is just the end, yeah, Gi at the end.
Speaker 1: This is supposed to be the end result, all right.
Speaker 1: On the Nuggets right now they are into the second
Speaker 1: round where they will be facing the Suns. I do
Speaker 1: just want to, you know, say a fond farewell to
Speaker 1: Anthony Edwards who was doing on both ends to avoid
Speaker 1: the sweeping Game four. And his defense has been on
Speaker 1: some like I've never seen that, like with anticipation with
Speaker 1: the blocks, like that block Jamari that you linked off
Speaker 1: to where where he like comes down the dude jumps
Speaker 1: into him and like he jumps before the ball handler
Speaker 1: jumped to like put up the shot and blocks it
Speaker 1: on the way down. Like it's just the craziest, this
Speaker 1: is the wildest thing. But he like there's something he's
Speaker 1: doing defensively, like this season, increasingly at the end of
Speaker 1: the season, wasn't enough for them to salvage their season,
Speaker 1: but with like anticipation steals in blocks, like he was
Speaker 1: doing some things at times where I was like, I've
Speaker 1: never really seen somebody look that dominant defensively, just in
Speaker 1: terms of like anticipation and like just stealing, like intercepting
Speaker 1: things like it was pretty cool. I'm still super excited
Speaker 1: about where he's going.
Speaker 6: Off this steel Edward's trying to get back head because I.
Speaker 4: Want to rejection from Anthony Edwards.
Speaker 1: Now Edward's running to break euros and finishes a sensational
Speaker 1: two way highlight.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, at his age in particular, you know year three,
Speaker 4: you know you look at you look at swingman or
Speaker 4: you know, shooting guards in particular, the true greats that
Speaker 4: he is a you know, whether you feel it's fair
Speaker 4: or foul, has been compared to generally. Year three is
Speaker 4: that turner. Is that year where it's like, oh, you know,
Speaker 4: that was the case kind of with the way the
Speaker 4: case with Kobe, the case with you know, the other guys.
Speaker 4: And I only mentioned him because they've been mentioned before,
Speaker 4: not to put that pressure on him, but no, you're
Speaker 4: exactly right. You know, he's obviously showed promise in those
Speaker 4: first couple of years, but this year it definitely felt
Speaker 4: like he kind of turned it on. And I actually,
Speaker 4: I'll turn that to Ken. We made a lot, and
Speaker 4: by we I mean the general conversation. We made a
Speaker 4: lot about what they gave up for Gobert and them
Speaker 4: really going for it. And I recognize that offensively, it
Speaker 4: may it may still be a little bit clunky, and
Speaker 4: they probably need to figure out, you know, what to
Speaker 4: do moving forward. But on the defensive end, I think
Speaker 4: having a guy like Gobert back there for the first time,
Speaker 4: I think that can only help a young guard or
Speaker 4: a young you know, wing that is in particular trying to,
Speaker 4: you know, elevate on the defensive end. I know that
Speaker 4: you didn't pay attention to anybody else, but what did
Speaker 4: you see from that situation.
Speaker 3: Well, it's the thing about Minnesota is they were absolutely
Speaker 3: a problem for the king, and Anthony Edwards was a
Speaker 3: king Heller. We could not stop that dude. And I
Speaker 3: remember getting into like a debate or an argument every
Speaker 3: conversation I have with my friends in Sacramento, specifically my
Speaker 3: old radio partner Damian Barling, who still works in Sacramento.
Speaker 3: ESPN thirteen twenty. Every time we talk about basketball, we argue,
Speaker 3: and so he's like, yeah, man, Anthony Edwards is the
Speaker 3: future in Minnesota. I'm like, Manna, man, can't kill the
Speaker 3: dude did we were talking about and then I started
Speaker 3: watching him. Then this year, man, that dude put it
Speaker 3: on the kings and we could not stop him. If
Speaker 3: he's the Western Conference Jimmy.
Speaker 1: Butler, right, he feels like, yeah, tool strength.
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, and that will that that I hate this
Speaker 3: stupid phrase, but that dog that that makes little things
Speaker 3: like you just mentioned, making things happen in the passing lane,
Speaker 3: making things happen, anticipating other players and getting blocks and
Speaker 3: steels and all these things, getting this body in the
Speaker 3: way and then knocking down the key shot. Like there's
Speaker 3: something about that, dude. But as far as their defense
Speaker 3: is concerned, I think that it's going to just absolutely
Speaker 3: be improved because they have the bodies now, right, They've
Speaker 3: got that week stot shot blocking aspect and go who
Speaker 3: sits on the other side to do all that now
Speaker 3: when they're both on the flour together, and so that's
Speaker 3: what you want. You want that they call it a lurker.
Speaker 3: The go bear is just gonna lurk over there on
Speaker 3: the weeks SID and then come over and handle that business.
Speaker 3: I think it's gonna work out great. It's hard to
Speaker 3: kind of have all those pieces come together when you
Speaker 3: switch your whole style. You talked about giving us some
Speaker 3: offensive pieces in order to get that defensive stability. It
Speaker 3: takes a minute for that stuff to kind of gel together.
Speaker 3: I don't care about them losing that first series four
Speaker 3: games to one. I think that team's gonna be for
Speaker 3: real next year. I think they're gonna be a problem
Speaker 3: for all of us.
Speaker 4: How it develops.
Speaker 1: And I feel like maybe that was one of the
Speaker 1: less watched of the series, just because I think people
Speaker 1: had a sense that the Nuggets were gonna win it.
Speaker 1: But if if you missed it his last four games
Speaker 1: of the postseason, Anthony Edwards last four games were twenty
Speaker 1: nine points, thirty four points, thirty six.
Speaker 2: And forty one.
Speaker 1: So, yeah, Bed, he was doing some crazy stuff. Lakers
Speaker 1: grizz Warriors, Kings. They both both have games tonight that
Speaker 1: are going to severely swing how anybody feels about the Jabbari.
Speaker 1: You're confident in the Lakers closing it out. Yeah, tonight.
Speaker 1: Last night for the listener.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's one of those situations where this team has
Speaker 4: given me no reason whatsoever to be confident in them.
Speaker 4: Over the course of the year. You start out two
Speaker 4: and ten, you find a way to turn it around,
Speaker 4: that's great, but it was a grind. It has been
Speaker 4: a grind, not just for the players but for you
Speaker 4: fans of the team. But that said, for whatever reason,
Speaker 4: I do believe, and you know you have definitely swayed
Speaker 4: me a bit. I'm a little bit more pessimistic as
Speaker 4: a fan than I normally am, but I'm pushing away
Speaker 4: the Philly angst. I say the Lakers finish it off tonight,
Speaker 4: I'm actually more intrigued, and honestly, even if it doesn't happen,
Speaker 4: they're up three to two coming back home. But I'm
Speaker 4: more intrigued, admittedly by the two to two series. You know,
Speaker 4: the main reason why we brought Ken on near today.
Speaker 4: Do either of you still feel confident in the Kings
Speaker 4: coming out of this series?
Speaker 2: Confident?
Speaker 1: No. I think there's a scenario where this is the
Speaker 1: worst it looks for the Kings is to to coming
Speaker 1: off the two Warriors wins with Fox's broken finger, and
Speaker 1: then they just find a way to gut it and
Speaker 1: like keep the pace high, and Mike Brown continues to
Speaker 1: out coach Steve Kerr like at home and just like
Speaker 1: I think there's a world where like they've both been
Speaker 1: really good at home teams and the Warriors have been
Speaker 1: terrible on the road and have not been able to
Speaker 1: do it on the road, including in this series. And
Speaker 1: I don't know, I could definitely see it feels like
Speaker 1: the popular opinion has swung to this is the Warriors
Speaker 1: series because the popular opinion wanted to be that heading
Speaker 1: into this series, right, Like Klay Townsend was like, when
Speaker 1: we're healthy, I don't see anyone beating us, and everyone
Speaker 1: was like, yep, Clay spoke, that's that's our pick now
Speaker 1: in Vegas and everything because like, I don't know, man, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: the Kings looked really good and the Warriors were wildly
Speaker 1: frustrating all season, and every time you guys thought they
Speaker 1: were putting it together, they weren't. They turned around and
Speaker 1: did something inexplicable, usually on the road. So you know,
Speaker 1: the Kings still have home court advantage. I'm fifty to
Speaker 1: fifty on this one, but if I had to pick
Speaker 1: a team, I'd probably pick the Kings.
Speaker 3: I'm a kingsman, and I wouldn't even pick the Kings.
Speaker 4: In Best two or three. You're not you don't feel good.
Speaker 3: About oh way? Like, look, we were all grown man,
Speaker 3: and we've all been watching basketball since we were kids,
Speaker 3: and we could probably remember a certain series and when
Speaker 3: we became like intuitively aware of how things work with
Speaker 3: momentum and champions and how you just can't get past it.
Speaker 3: The first time I realized that there were sometimes things
Speaker 3: you just can't control was when Jordan and the Bulls
Speaker 3: faced Magic in the Lakers in the early ninety I
Speaker 3: love magics. I love magic, and at that time I
Speaker 3: hated Michael George. But when I watched them, I remember
Speaker 3: how the Lakers got away with Game number one. Sam
Speaker 3: parked into the three pointer or something like that, and
Speaker 3: they got away with a victory.
Speaker 1: There bloody devots hit a lay up and then ran
Speaker 1: around with his finger over his mouth. Yeah, I was.
Speaker 1: I was a huge Jordan fan, and that was burnt
Speaker 1: my memory.
Speaker 3: I was like no, But then after that it was
Speaker 3: a rapah And you could tell. When you got the
Speaker 3: Game three of that church, You're like, man, y'all, are
Speaker 3: y'all can't do nothing with the Bulls. And it's same
Speaker 3: thing when I remember in ninety three when the Suns
Speaker 3: played the bull and Barkley is playing his absolute brain out.
Speaker 3: I mean, he's just crazy every night. I'm just like, man,
Speaker 3: y'all can't beat the Bulls, dude. It's just one of
Speaker 3: the things you realized when you watch. You're like, now
Speaker 3: you just can't. You can't beat them. And so I
Speaker 3: have that feeling with the Kings and Warriors. I'm like, man,
Speaker 3: they got championship, DNA. We had them on the rope.
Speaker 3: You got to knock the champ out when you got
Speaker 3: to you gotta pan on the ropes. And we missed
Speaker 3: our opportunity. And now it's even and we're.
Speaker 4: Prob can we get a full on prediction?
Speaker 3: Well, I think it's one of those things where it's
Speaker 3: reason why we all have such anxiety and we hate
Speaker 3: the god's sports right because if the Aaron Fox doesn't
Speaker 3: have the issue with his fingertip, Kings fans are feeling
Speaker 3: supremely comfortable. But the fact he's got the issue with
Speaker 3: the fingertips, and it may be because of Draymond green Man,
Speaker 3: come on, unload the bus. Everybody fighting the parking lot.
Speaker 3: That's the only chance that we got to get anything.
Speaker 3: Everybody unloaded the bus and fight in the parking lot
Speaker 3: because man, we can't win on the court because they
Speaker 3: got away with their tricks and they got us. They
Speaker 3: just had to get the one or two games with
Speaker 3: their tricks and they got us, and now they got
Speaker 3: us what they wanted.
Speaker 1: It is wild how effective Draymond Green continues to be.
Speaker 1: If I was an NBA player, I would do nothing
Speaker 1: but study Draymond Green like game tape, because it feels
Speaker 1: like it's just things you can learn to do that
Speaker 1: like he just there's like a magic to it. And
Speaker 1: even I don't know, man's it really is crazy. He's
Speaker 1: so effective.
Speaker 4: So this is the funniest thing about Draymond Green, and
Speaker 4: I'm so glad that you brought that up. With all
Speaker 4: the antics and everything, you know, you know, people are
Speaker 4: going to have their opinions about him, but you're not
Speaker 4: gonna find You're not going to find very many smarter
Speaker 4: players out there. He knows the angles to take, he
Speaker 4: knows how to position himself, he knows what he can
Speaker 4: get away with. He knows where where the refs are
Speaker 4: are positioned, so that he can do certain things that
Speaker 4: are advantageous for himself and ultimately his team. But no,
Speaker 4: you're like, that's a great point. Like if I'm look,
Speaker 4: I don't care what level I'm at, but especially if
Speaker 4: I'm a guy that's struggling or trying to stay in
Speaker 4: the league, you know, that's the game tape that I
Speaker 4: would definitely be watching because yeah, yeah, it's a.
Speaker 3: Winning You guys, we all, like I said, we all
Speaker 3: grew up watching basketball. We also grew up playing basketball. Look,
Speaker 3: I'm not a very big guy at all, so it
Speaker 3: wasn't an option. I'm not quick. But here's a number
Speaker 3: one reason why I stopped messing around with pickup games
Speaker 3: because every five minute, somebody wants to do what they
Speaker 3: want to fight.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
Speaker 4: Right, you know that, don't you know?
Speaker 3: I'm not messing out there, no one. I'm like, man,
Speaker 3: this is my money maker. I'm not trying to have
Speaker 3: you mess with my money maker right now. So no
Speaker 3: elbows and punch me in the mouth. I'm out. But
Speaker 3: the NBA and all these dudes that had to play
Speaker 3: through all that toughness, you have to get to play
Speaker 3: some suffers at punts. Then you get to AAU you
Speaker 3: got to be tough on the court. High school, college,
Speaker 3: you have to be tough. Then you get to the NBA,
Speaker 3: that one dude dominate you in every aspect on the court.
Speaker 3: I'm like, what, how is this still happening in the NBA.
Speaker 1: Let's take a quick break. We'll come back and we
Speaker 1: will do the fastest segment of podcasting rapid fire.
Speaker 2: Uh uh.
Speaker 1: We will be right back and we're back, and I
Speaker 1: guess the one series we haven't really talked about is
Speaker 1: Suns closing out the Clippers. They will be facing the Nuggets.
Speaker 1: That's gonna be a great series. I feel like Booker
Speaker 1: is the story of that first round series. I like
Speaker 1: on the Sun side, the Clipper side was obviously a mess,
Speaker 1: but you know, it's injury stuff that I don't feel
Speaker 1: like is as fun to discuss as just how good
Speaker 1: Devin Booker is. They seemed like they are starting to
Speaker 1: put some things together on the Sun side, which makes
Speaker 1: me excited about that series because I thought I thought
Speaker 1: the Nuggets kind of had it wrapped up if they
Speaker 1: looked as bad as they did in like Game one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, from the Sun side of things, I won't lie.
Speaker 4: After Game one, I said, oh, well, maybe they're you know,
Speaker 4: maybe maybe I jumped the gun. Maybe they're not. But
Speaker 4: the rest of that series felt like a remember when
Speaker 4: Roy Jones came out with the rap album y'all must
Speaker 4: have forgot. I don't know if y'all remember, but I
Speaker 4: just love that song, and I you know, it might
Speaker 4: still get it, might still get bumped right now. In fact,
Speaker 4: Brian put this, put that track underneath what I'm saying
Speaker 4: right now. It felt like a y'all must have forgot
Speaker 4: series because so many of us, so many of us
Speaker 4: were guilty of this. We're like, hey, they got kat now,
Speaker 4: so kt is the guy. And Devin Booker while Katie
Speaker 4: is still fantastic and you want and you you want
Speaker 4: him on that wall, you need him on that wall.
Speaker 4: Devin Booker still the guy. Devin Booker is the best
Speaker 4: player on the Suns.
Speaker 1: And so many references in a row, that's all.
Speaker 2: I'm here, a few good men.
Speaker 1: So Roy Jones reference to his rap album that is
Speaker 1: not like about people overreaching, but it's just like that's.
Speaker 4: A good song. You know what, Jack, Just wait next
Speaker 4: time I've got a demolition Man reference. I'm gonna work
Speaker 4: it in there somehow.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's good stuff.
Speaker 1: Remember when Dennis Robmin was in that Van Damn movie, Well,
Speaker 1: his character once said something that I think it out
Speaker 1: all the time called double double team, something that no
Speaker 1: one ever did to Dennis Robins.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love me some Deennis Rovin. I mean, think
Speaker 3: about it, if you want to win, if you were
Speaker 3: coaching one and win, You're like, I need that dude.
Speaker 3: If I can just find a way to control that dude.
Speaker 3: Oh and then Bill Jackson realized I can't control them.
Speaker 3: Let him do whatever he wants.
Speaker 4: Just harness it.
Speaker 2: Just some other things.
Speaker 1: While watching Fox News, it would seem he did.
Speaker 4: He did, he and his posse.
Speaker 3: But with the with the Sun man, I mean, like,
Speaker 3: you know, KD is gonna be the difference maker. Even
Speaker 3: though Devin Booker is definitely trying to assert himself as
Speaker 3: the man, they're not gonna win and let KD, you know,
Speaker 3: comes through and he will have to steal the degal
Speaker 3: on a couple of those games.
Speaker 4: Ken, I'll put you like this not to push back,
Speaker 4: but to push back a little bit. I saw Devin
Speaker 4: Booker take a team to the finals.
Speaker 3: You also saw Devin Booker get swept after going up.
Speaker 4: I recognize that. And I'm saying it like that on
Speaker 4: purpose because Suns fans will get, you know, like a
Speaker 4: little upset about it. I saw Devin Booker take a
Speaker 4: team to the finals. KD has won some titles, yes, but.
Speaker 3: He's never led a team.
Speaker 1: You don't think, yeah, he led that Warriors team, right,
Speaker 1: I mean that.
Speaker 3: It doesn't you can't say that.
Speaker 4: Which is the reason why I said it like that,
Speaker 4: not not to you take the conversation into a terrible
Speaker 4: place because you know there's enough of that on NBA Twitter.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 4: And you know, bus driver versus non bus driver.
Speaker 1: But you won the finals MVP one year twice twice. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. It does feel like he is like
Speaker 1: I've heard, you know, certain commentators be like they don't
Speaker 1: know who's driving the bus, and like Katie's just kind
Speaker 1: of like it's kind of like the new guy at
Speaker 1: the bachelor party. You know what I'm saying, Uh, this
Speaker 1: is you'll never guess who I'm.
Speaker 4: Doing, Bill Simmons.
Speaker 1: You know, the new guy at the bachelor party doesn't
Speaker 1: really know like which which group he like fits him with,
Speaker 1: doesn't know his role. That's kind of how Katie is,
Speaker 1: Like I think he also might just be letting Devin
Speaker 1: Booker be the man, like understanding that he needs to
Speaker 1: let Devin Booker be Alpha and he can just be
Speaker 1: the greatest complimentary score of all time because he wants
Speaker 1: another ring.
Speaker 3: But if he does that, does he get any credit?
Speaker 3: You know, we don't. Players don't get credit for kind
Speaker 3: of taking the backseat sometimes and doing the other things.
Speaker 1: I think he's given up on that narrative stuff, hopefully
Speaker 1: for his insanity.
Speaker 4: You just hit it on the head like he knows,
Speaker 4: you know, what it is, is what it is. And ultimately,
Speaker 4: and here's the thing, they may not get credit in
Speaker 4: the moment. They may not get credit on you know,
Speaker 4: the bird app you we're on Twitter talking trash whatever,
Speaker 4: and you know, but ultimately, when we look back at it,
Speaker 4: we're gonna say KD was a champion. Like so like
Speaker 4: what I was saying earlier was a little bit tongue
Speaker 4: in cheek, We're not gonna, you know, like, at least me,
Speaker 4: I'm not going to say, oh, well he only did
Speaker 4: this or early did No. KD is one of the
Speaker 4: all time greats, and he's you know, the two or
Speaker 4: three time champion. Is how the story's gonna.
Speaker 3: Be conception is everything. I was watching a clip about
Speaker 3: Kobe Bryant was talking about the deception of his legacy oppositely,
Speaker 3: and he was talking about how when he had those
Speaker 3: three rings with Shack and then Shaq got the fourth
Speaker 3: ring in Miami. He's like, I absolutely has to get
Speaker 3: the next two rings or people are going to say
Speaker 3: the narrative about my career is I couldn't win without Check.
Speaker 3: He's like people say about Michael he couldn't win without Scotty, right.
Speaker 3: He's like, Okay, well, I have to find a way
Speaker 3: to win without Shack. He's like, I couldn't accept that
Speaker 3: as the narrative of my career. Kevin Durant has to
Speaker 3: do the same thing. He has to say, I can't
Speaker 3: accept the narrative of my career is that I'm a
Speaker 3: complimentary player that I've never let anything. He has to
Speaker 3: accept that that's how it's going to be unless he
Speaker 3: changes it, and he doesn't seem to be willing to
Speaker 3: change it.
Speaker 2: I think ultimately he doesn't care.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was gonna say, I think ultimately at the
Speaker 4: end of things, yes, that might bother him right here
Speaker 4: in the moment, or if he sees it on the timeline, right.
Speaker 4: I think it's good.
Speaker 1: It does bother him because he is one of my
Speaker 1: favorite just petty people like on Twitter, like I just
Speaker 1: love like some of the things he responds to and
Speaker 1: gets mad about. I'm just like, God, bless you, sir.
Speaker 1: You must have the worst digestion in the world if
Speaker 1: you pay attention to every negative thing people say say
Speaker 1: about you.
Speaker 3: But feel like the thing with Kobe and like Barkley,
Speaker 3: I think they totally underscore the fact that, man, you've
Speaker 3: got to be aware of your legacy. Toby was aware
Speaker 3: of it, and Kobe said, I'm changing this storyline to
Speaker 3: that one. I'm no longer here. You know that I'm
Speaker 3: a champion. Barkley never put the investment, Like Jordan always said, Dude,
Speaker 3: you didn't put the investment. He didn't invest the time
Speaker 3: into changing the narrative of being a champion. Yeah, you
Speaker 3: just played basketball and I have a difference. And Barker's
Speaker 3: got to hear it every night, chet every night, every night.
Speaker 1: All right, rapid fire, let me stretch fast, fastest segment
Speaker 1: of podcasting. We're just looking for your immediate thought. We're
Speaker 1: just going to try and keep this one moving. No
Speaker 1: hesies on this one, Jabari, you want to take first?
Speaker 1: You want me to take first?
Speaker 4: Now you go first?
Speaker 2: You all right, deal this choice? Okay?
Speaker 1: Ken? First question, rapid fire. Is there a single NBA
Speaker 1: player you would take right now over the chance of
Speaker 1: taking Quemba Yama with the first pick the summer?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I think Aaron Bock all.
Speaker 1: Day, all right, all right.
Speaker 4: He said it for folks. He said it with a
Speaker 4: straight face. He's looking at me, mean mugging right now
Speaker 4: at the fact that at the fact that I'm saying
Speaker 4: stop it. But alight, if that's where we're going, I'm not.
Speaker 1: Mad at it's a generational player, okay, all right, Hey.
Speaker 4: They say a lot of things.
Speaker 1: Ben Simmons was a generational player. Oh yes, in fact,
Speaker 1: did I say no?
Speaker 4: I was just saying, well, but in fairness, I was
Speaker 4: a Ben Simmons guy. So I can't, like, I can't,
Speaker 4: you know, walk away sideways now simply because he's down
Speaker 4: a little bit. He's still coming back. He's still going
Speaker 4: to have that fantastic career. Just you know, I do that,
Speaker 4: all right, all right, but you know what, we've messed
Speaker 4: up because this is the fastest segment in podcasting, and
Speaker 4: you know we've been daily deadly, So keeping it going.
Speaker 4: Second question, what is your favorite NBA city to visit
Speaker 4: and what's your must have meal in that town?
Speaker 3: Wow, NBA city to visit? I had to say it,
Speaker 3: it's Los Angeles. There you go, unfortunately, just because LA
Speaker 3: does everything. Now the meal that I would have if
Speaker 3: I'm in LA, it's street tacos. Baby, Yes, I'm all
Speaker 3: about tacos.
Speaker 4: Yes, let me get it right outside of I was
Speaker 4: gonna say Staples, but yeah, we're still gonna call it
Speaker 4: right outside of Staples. Let me get a you know,
Speaker 4: a street taco, one of those Sonorian dogs, bacon wrap
Speaker 4: hot dogs. We are good to go.
Speaker 2: What are those? They're not Sonorian hot dogs?
Speaker 4: Well, in here in Arizona, they're called Sognoran dogs because
Speaker 4: they were they originated here, according to Arizona's.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, is Jalen Ros's hair too good to
Speaker 1: be true?
Speaker 3: Yes? Okay, everything about that brother is like too good
Speaker 3: to be true. It's career and he's still on television.
Speaker 3: All that stuff is.
Speaker 4: Too good to be true. I got you, all right,
Speaker 4: Keeping it going. You can go back and attend any
Speaker 4: game in NBA history. Which game are you choosing? Outside
Speaker 4: of Game four two thousand and two, right, come.
Speaker 3: Out there with a boodoo doll. I would have to say, Wow,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go. Believe it or not. Game seven Lakers
Speaker 3: and Celtics, the year that Kobe and Ron archest beats
Speaker 3: of Celtic twenty ten. I would have loved to have
Speaker 3: been at that because Kobe was pulling down rebounds, doing
Speaker 3: all this different stuff. That would have been a really
Speaker 3: intense game, and you knew Kobe needed to have it
Speaker 3: that night.
Speaker 4: I feel like that that game took two years off
Speaker 4: of my life and then gave me a year after
Speaker 4: the FED. So I'm right there with you. By the way, Jack,
Speaker 4: that was another series that Doc lost the three. He
Speaker 4: was up three to two in that series and then lost.
Speaker 1: But I'm sorry, Ke going yeah, all right, finally Jack
Speaker 1: or Jabari?
Speaker 3: What Jabari he's talking about? Although Jack, I gotta give
Speaker 3: it to you, man, You're pretty awesome. Hey, I like
Speaker 3: thank you so much, controlled and everything. I like that
Speaker 3: very much. Thank We go back from radio radio like
Speaker 3: five six years ago.
Speaker 4: Personally I would have gone with Jack, but I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know what I would have too, Ken,
Speaker 1: So thanks very much. All right, that is this week's
Speaker 1: episode of Matt Boosties Kem. Where can people find you?
Speaker 1: Follow you all that good stuff.
Speaker 3: I'm on the every single morning Monday through Friday on
Speaker 3: FanDuel TV. For fandel TV is a brand new sports
Speaker 3: betting network that was just rebranded from the old TVG network.
Speaker 3: TVD did only horse racing all day long, so now
Speaker 3: we're FanDuel TV. We do ever hang, ever, ever hang
Speaker 3: So I get to start in the morning, I bet
Speaker 3: horse racing, and I transition into setting the lines for
Speaker 3: basketball and transition into setting lines for baseball football. We
Speaker 3: have football shows with Kay Adams from NFL Network. We
Speaker 3: have basketball shows with Michelle Beetle and Shams and Eddie
Speaker 3: Gonzalez and Chandler Carsons. They're all part of the crew.
Speaker 3: I'll running back so it with all these original programs,
Speaker 3: and I'm on every single morning Monday through Friday, one
Speaker 3: o'clock twelve o'clock, just getting started on FanDuel TV. I
Speaker 3: just happened to be part of the rebranding and getting
Speaker 3: everything going to this new general, this new direction to
Speaker 3: sports betty.
Speaker 4: Nice man, I'll even give you a cat Williams reference
Speaker 4: in his.
Speaker 3: Answer, I don't Williams. That's my dude. Every day, I sink.
Speaker 1: Ever love it all right, Jabari, where can people find you?
Speaker 4: I'm simple, Jabari Davis NBA or you know Mad Boosties.
Speaker 4: You know, hassling people trying to get you and get
Speaker 4: you to interact. Make sure you guys follow us on
Speaker 4: Twitter at mad Boosties.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, what about you can find me on Twitter?
Speaker 1: Jack Underscore O Brian. That's gonna do it for us
Speaker 1: this week.
Speaker 2: We'll be back.
Speaker 1: We'll know more next week. I will, you know, be
Speaker 1: wearing all black and just and I make up like
Speaker 1: an Emo kid. If the if the Sixers or you know,
Speaker 1: down three to Oho or down two to oh to
Speaker 1: the Celtic, We'll see all right, Thanks guys, bye, go Sixers,
Speaker 1: Go Lakers.
Speaker 4: That's right, Go they go. Thanks, K A N G.
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Speaker 1: Mm hmmmmmm