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Speaker 2: Harrison dies for the up zone. He's in Touchdown What

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Speaker 2: For a loss by guess who? Collias Campbell.

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Speaker 1: The latest news and notes from the insiders who cover

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Speaker 1: the team.

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Speaker 2: Touchdown Trey McBride. Heck of a play by the all

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Speaker 2: world tight end Tray McBride. Oh, that was nasty right there,

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Speaker 2: right swam the ground by Budda Baker like a torpedo.

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Speaker 2: He came flying into the backfield. I ain't scared of nobody.

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Speaker 1: Here's Paul Calvic.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's just sort of video. There's a comfort in

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Speaker 2: knowing that at anytime, if I'm trailing this episode of

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Speaker 2: Cardinals Underground, that I can opt for the on side

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Speaker 2: kick at any point, not just wait for the very end,

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Speaker 2: all right in desperation Paul Kelvec, Darren Irvan, Danny Sirek,

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Speaker 2: who's already I can tell it is already contemplating game planning,

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Speaker 2: strategizing right now. At any point the on side kick

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Speaker 2: had on a swivel.

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Speaker 3: You still need to declare it, but you no longer

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Speaker 3: have to be the trailing team in the fourth quarter

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Speaker 3: to have an onside kick.

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Speaker 2: See. I'm not ready to declare it because I was

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Speaker 2: opting for maybe another intro. I wasn't sure whether to

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Speaker 2: go with the twelve tons of kit kats that have

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Speaker 2: been stolen, but that might step on getting your culture.

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Speaker 2: I don't know you know yours truly. I'm a sucker

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Speaker 2: for a good ipa. You know a good palm, right,

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Speaker 2: And I don't discriminate on palm, veal, chicken or eggplant,

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Speaker 2: all the above. And I'm a sucker for solid Italian

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Speaker 2: sucker for a good headline. Here's a good one. I

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Speaker 2: just saw the panic over tech neck and the race

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Speaker 2: for a cure. Tech neck definition a name for the

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Speaker 2: horizontal lines that develop across your neck with age and

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Speaker 2: apparently worsen with incessant smartphone use and scrollings.

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Speaker 3: I always thought tech neck was the back of your neck,

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Speaker 3: like almost having the hunch because you're constantly looking down

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Speaker 3: at your phone. Maybe there's multiple definitions, just somewhere on

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Speaker 4: I guess, don't you just naturally get wrinkles in your

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Speaker 4: neck as you get older? What's that about you do?

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Speaker 3: But now the twenty something, so sometimes I try to

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Speaker 2: You might, yeah, you might want to increase that. You

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Speaker 2: might want to get you know, the the selfie stick in.

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Speaker 3: Actually, no, no, just selfie sticks.

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Speaker 2: I just read it's in the Wall Street Journal. I

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Speaker 2: just I just flipped through it. Apparently there's a twenty

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Speaker 2: five year old famous inflame Winzer who's fifty five year

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Speaker 2: old mother came up to her and said, you have

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Speaker 3: Yikes.

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Speaker 4: Maybe that she's just a bad mom, I mean, yikes.

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Speaker 2: So, and by the way, the back of the neck

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Speaker 4: How is somebody supposed to know what they look like

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Speaker 3: Well, usually a photo.

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Speaker 2: Someone has to tell you. It's tough.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you see a photo that you're in of a

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Speaker 4: I's taking a lot of pictures.

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Speaker 3: There, I can start snapping photos of you.

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Speaker 2: So we all just got back from the league meetings

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Speaker 3: Reportedly not reportedly, that's what he was.

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Speaker 4: And then I heard him telling another person.

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Speaker 3: Yes, so, poor Todd Monkin, in his first year as

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Speaker 4: Now, I did hear him say when he was talking

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Speaker 2: But see that is such a first time head coach

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Speaker 3: Someone else was missing in that group photo, Sean McVay,

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Speaker 4: I'd be I don't know. I ever heard him quoted

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Speaker 4: but it's also the most loose in terms of like timing.

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Speaker 4: And like there was a coach, a non Cardinals coach

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Speaker 4: to go do this other thing. So I'm like trying

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Speaker 4: to track him down. He goes he knows you're coming,

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Speaker 2: The other thing for the pr person, by the way,

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Speaker 2: other thing that's you're never quite sure when the job

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Speaker 3: For those that don't know or need to refresh to,

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Speaker 3: the Owner's meetings happen every year between X and Palm Beach,

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Speaker 3: and it's where owners, general managers, head coaches, executives all

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Speaker 3: that's when the league shares new initiatives. They share statistics

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Speaker 3: a lot of mingling and networking that goes on in between.

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Speaker 3: But yes, pretty much everyone with any sort of power

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Speaker 4: It'll be back at the Biltmore again next year.

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Speaker 2: Two years in a row.

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Speaker 4: Really years in a row. Did not know that. Okay,

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Speaker 4: that's the first time I've heard of being someplace two

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Speaker 2: We'll have some NFC West news a little bit later

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Speaker 2: as we look over the block wall into the backyard

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Speaker 2: of our neighbors. But in terms of big takeaways and

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Speaker 2: just start with a couple of the rule changes, because

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Speaker 2: really there wasn't that much. The on side kick by

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Speaker 2: the trailing team, yes, Danny, you must declare it, but

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Speaker 2: can be attempted at any point during the game, So

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Speaker 2: there was that. I know. There was also some provisions

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Speaker 2: back into NFL games twenty twenty six. Right, so now

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Speaker 2: they're allowing the replay Center in New York to consult

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Speaker 2: with on field officials when considering ejections for both flagrant

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Speaker 2: football acts and non football acts that weren't called on

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Speaker 2: the field, maybe otherwise known as the DK Metcalf versus

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Speaker 4: That's to me the most fascinating one, because now you

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Speaker 3: Guy's out, or some might say Big Brothers always watching.

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Speaker 4: That's also true, which it always was. They just didn't

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Speaker 2: By the way, someone did a story, really good story

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Speaker 2: on the replacement refs twenty twelve. I honestly forgot this.

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Speaker 2: It was the first three weeks of that season. It

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Speaker 2: wasn't just the fail Mary, oh yeah, but the fail

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Speaker 2: Mary was in week three, after three full slates of games,

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Speaker 2: and it was far from the only gaff someone cited.

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Speaker 2: And I didn't remember this Week one Cardinals Seahawks twenty twelve,

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Speaker 2: My favorite was there was another Week three game over

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Speaker 2: time the officials enforced a penalty from the wrong forty

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Speaker 2: a drive that ended with a twenty seven yard game

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Speaker 2: winning field goal. So people are going into the archives

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Speaker 2: and maybe, just maybe it'll move the meter on both

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Speaker 2: sides and the owners in the league will reach a

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Speaker 4: No skeptical well, because the motivation for the officials that

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Speaker 4: what's how is that motivating them?

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Speaker 2: Well, they're enacting rules changes which we started with, right,

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Speaker 2: they're going to start, the AP says, And I don't

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Speaker 2: know if there's multiple reports. I did see the AP

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, I understand that.

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Speaker 2: But like again, I'm just saying, there seems to be

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Speaker 2: ample motivation, perhaps on both sides to reach an agreement.

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Speaker 2: The league is moving. Well, that's that's better implementation of

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Speaker 2: Here's here's.

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Speaker 4: The problem when you talk about the referees, and this

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Speaker 4: having the full time officials. All of these guys have jobs.

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Speaker 4: It's not like they're not going to have paychecks of

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Speaker 4: some sort if they use it replacement officials.

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Speaker 2: By the way, did I see it correctly? I did

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Speaker 2: not know this. The average salary of an NFL official

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Speaker 4: I saw three fifty.

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Speaker 2: Is that like the back judge the side judge.

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Speaker 3: You got me, Paul's interested in making a career check.

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Speaker 2: But I mean, but I know I know the numbers

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Speaker 2: down there already.

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Speaker 4: Why not I know? I know. This is the numbers

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Speaker 4: I saw. I think they said the NFL was offering

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Speaker 4: six and a half percent raise and the officials the

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Speaker 4: union wants ten percent. Yes, So again I go back

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Speaker 4: to your saying both sides. I don't know if the

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Speaker 4: because if you're the union, you may say, go ahead,

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Speaker 4: use replacement refs. Look how terrible was the first time,

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Speaker 4: and then you'll see how important we are, you know.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to spend too much time on this

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Speaker 4: because people say we don't give a crap, but they

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Speaker 4: will when there's a fail married Part two.

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Speaker 2: The other one I saw. I never remember this at all,

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Speaker 2: and this this is grounds for a thirty for thirty

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Speaker 2: the NFL had to remove a side judge when it

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Speaker 4: That's that's never.

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Speaker 3: Ye can't post everything on social media, ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 2: That's right, all right, let's let's get let's get down

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Speaker 3: He ended up right next to his brother Smack dab

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Speaker 3: I was seated just after seven. He spoke at seven

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Speaker 2: I was there at seven fifteen, small table, seven fifteen

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Speaker 4: And the reality is also although and I lost, depends

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Speaker 4: I mean, let's face a Paul, like, our group alone had.

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Speaker 3: That was what everybody wanted to hear from the head coach.

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Speaker 4: But I will say this. I know everybody's like, oh,

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Speaker 4: I've been talking about, look, it's time to move on.

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Speaker 4: It's time to move on for both sides, for both sides.

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Speaker 4: Of why would they have said it earlier? Gosh, it

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Speaker 3: It seems like he's obviously was with the team, but

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Speaker 4: I mean, we're going to go back to when Danny

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Speaker 3: He essentially said a quarterback that will be tough, stay

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Speaker 3: was what he praised Jacoby Brissette for. When he continued

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Speaker 4: I think, look, none of this is and we all

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Speaker 4: the result of that. And there's a number of people

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Speaker 4: was interesting that Michaelafluer singled out Tip Ryman as a

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Speaker 4: So we'll see where that goes.

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Speaker 3: Fans are entitled to feel however they want to feel.

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Speaker 3: I truly believe that you are using your time, your effort,

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Speaker 3: one hundred percent. When it comes to Jacoby Bresset, the

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Speaker 3: least is nobody is on record saying that Jacoby Weresett

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Speaker 3: My perspective at least is, well, let's see what persec

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Speaker 3: Kyler Murray go sign somewhere else. It's it's just where

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Speaker 4: Right now, the nuanced word. I'm glad you said that.

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Speaker 4: That's what I was thinking about. It wasn't necessarily what

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Speaker 4: saying Jacoby Brissette is Lamar Jackson or Josh Allen. I'm

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Speaker 4: We can argue about Kyler Murray. I'm waiting to see

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Speaker 2: Well, can I say this, and you guys can agree

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Speaker 4: And he had done some things that Jacoby.

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Speaker 2: He had taken Cincinnati to the playoffs where he got

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Speaker 2: Dang I wanted to say.

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Speaker 3: I like how Paul started the podcast talking about how

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Speaker 4: Hey, we're just talking about taking clips out of contest.

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Speaker 2: But when Michae Lafleur said to you, toughness, that was

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Speaker 2: Minshew based And we can talk about what Michae Lafloor

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Speaker 2: Their connection twenty nineteen Senior ball, right, and how he

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Speaker 4: Yes.

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Speaker 3: Lafloor was on the coaching staff when Minshew was going

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Speaker 2: So to me, whether it's Ty Simpson number three overall

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Speaker 4: Making a visit. Let's not get over our ski's on visits.

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Speaker 2: Throw that in there. I understand, well, bit, you know,

436
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Speaker 2: give me half a light on the Carson Beck. I've

437
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Speaker 2: been on the Carson No.

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Speaker 4: No, I mean, I'm not going to rule anything out.

439
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:29,960
Speaker 4: I don't the Carson Beck thing. He's We've talked about

440
00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,840
Speaker 4: this before, like he's got all that experience, but unfortunately

441
00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:37,159
Speaker 4: he hasn't. The inconsistency has been shown often because of

442
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,080
Speaker 4: all that experience. So Chemo Van Ollhoffen.

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Speaker 2: By the way, there you go, oh man, who, by

444
00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,159
Speaker 2: the way, would be thrown out of a game for

445
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Speaker 2: that low hit below the knees of Carson Palmer at

446
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Speaker 2: this point in fact, I mean you be thrown out

447
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,760
Speaker 2: by the iron thrown out by New York.

448
00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,399
Speaker 4: Carson Palmer's probably like, oh yeah, but you had to

449
00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:58,480
Speaker 4: wait until Tom Brady had that happen to him before

450
00:22:58,480 --> 00:22:59,440
Speaker 4: he made a rule against it.

451
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:04,159
Speaker 2: So there was the quarterback talk by Mike Lafleur at

452
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Speaker 2: the league meetings and the Gardner Minshew. So he spent

453
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 2: a lot of time talking about Gardner Minshew. His other

454
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Speaker 2: longest answer was on Kendrick Bourne. Obviously he loves himself

455
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 2: some Kendrick Bourne, so definitely those two are best. He's

456
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 2: you know, going way back, and you figure Kendrick Bourne

457
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Speaker 2: is going to sort of represent that Mike laflora culture

458
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:27,680
Speaker 2: at least initially you would think. And so there was that.

459
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Speaker 2: What else stood out about what he had to say

460
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Speaker 2: there was the joint practices, which I think he went

461
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Speaker 2: into right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, is it had been reported and so it was

463
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Speaker 3: asked straight up of the Cardinals and Packers were going

464
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Speaker 3: to have joint practice and the answer was yes, it's

465
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Speaker 3: not quote unquote officially official until the league stamps off

466
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Speaker 3: on it, but Micha Lfluor did confirm that the Cardinals

467
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Speaker 3: and Packers would be having joint practices. He went on

468
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,960
Speaker 3: to say all the reasons he loves having joint practices

469
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Speaker 3: of seeing a different scheme, which is funny because the

470
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Speaker 3: defense to scheme, at least that he's implying, is about

471
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:06,119
Speaker 3: Jonathan Gannon's defense with the Packers and the fact that

472
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Speaker 3: you know, his team gets to hit players on a

473
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Speaker 3: different team, and you also get out of the heat,

474
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,359
Speaker 3: you get up North and Paul, when you and I

475
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Speaker 3: were speaking with the Form, we asked, you know who

476
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,119
Speaker 3: made that phone call? Did did Mike call Matt? Did

477
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Speaker 3: Matt call Mike and say, hey, let's do joint practice?

478
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Speaker 3: And he said he didn't even know. They talked so

479
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,440
Speaker 3: often that they probably thought about it. At the same time.

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Speaker 4: I thought it was interesting. I ran into mattlaflor and

481
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Speaker 4: and he also, like, for something that's not confirmed, it's

482
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Speaker 4: very confirmed, you know. It's it's kind of funny, like

483
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Speaker 4: I mean, they're both openly talking about it and planning.

484
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Speaker 2: They're already planning it. So yes, John, look, the NFL

485
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 2: better than any league on the planet, and this is

486
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 2: not a hot take. What do they do better when

487
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:54,639
Speaker 2: it comes to scheduling storylines in angles? So if you

488
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 2: can have a joint practice made by the league, this

489
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Speaker 2: would be it.

490
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 3: Bros that are head coaches, defensive coordinator, the former head

491
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Speaker 3: coach for one of those teams on.

492
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Speaker 2: The opposite sideline for a couple of days in Green Bay.

493
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Speaker 2: In fact, you know, this has been talked about before,

494
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 2: and I think it's going to And we talked a

495
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 2: little bit about this on Red Sea Report, and you

496
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 2: hear this kicked around on various NFL related talk shows

497
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:25,360
Speaker 2: and so forth, that whether the joint practices will begin

498
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Speaker 2: to replace preseason games, not only in the minds and

499
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Speaker 2: eyes of the coaches and the decision makers. Like last

500
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,920
Speaker 2: couple of years, what have we heard there are gms

501
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:40,120
Speaker 2: and coaches who value the joint practices more in making

502
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Speaker 2: roster decisions than the games themselves.

503
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Speaker 4: The problem is you can't sell tickets per se to

504
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Speaker 4: the joint practice.

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Speaker 3: AHA eighteen game season.

506
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Speaker 2: This is where the plot thickens. Darren. I put it

507
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 2: to you, if you put Cardinals Packers at Lambeau joint practice,

508
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 2: you don't think that.

509
00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:01,680
Speaker 3: Would sell more than preseason game you in addition.

510
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,680
Speaker 4: To a preseason anything in Green Bay sells out, so

511
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 4: that's going to do that. That's not a good comparison.

512
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,919
Speaker 2: But okay, I mean if you put Cardinals Packers at

513
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 2: State Farm Stadium for a joint practice Saturday, come on

514
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 2: out and they're actually hitting, not to the ground, not

515
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,879
Speaker 2: full tackling, but you're gonna see O line D line drills.

516
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,479
Speaker 2: I could see the NFL start to develop this well.

517
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,639
Speaker 2: I don't know sell even preseason TV packages still a

518
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 2: local station.

519
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 3: There's always a huge turnout when the Cardinals do have

520
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:33,119
Speaker 3: those open practices on the weekend of back together weekend.

521
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Speaker 4: Maybe have you guys seen the TV ratings for preseason

522
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 4: games for real? Like you get preseason games still get

523
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 4: really good ratings compared to most sporting events.

524
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Speaker 3: People are so desperate for football at that point.

525
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Speaker 2: Well, and what I'm saying, I'm not saying to replace

526
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Speaker 2: preseason games, but if we're already inevitably on the course

527
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Speaker 2: to eighteen regular season games in two preseason games, and

528
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,399
Speaker 2: if they're looking for more inventory, if you will in August,

529
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Speaker 2: I can see where the joint practice would be evolve

530
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 2: to the point where they add at least one Marquee

531
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 2: joint practice. Celtickets, televise it, market it, I'm wondering.

532
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:12,160
Speaker 3: So the preseason broadcasts, more times than not, are are

533
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 3: all self contained. It's it's the team putting on the

534
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:16,880
Speaker 3: local broadcast, unless it's a national.

535
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Speaker 4: What a fantastic job you guys do by that, thank you.

536
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 3: It's it's one of my favorite parts of the job. Truthfully.

537
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 3: I'm just I'm just thinking, no, listen, listen, I'm going

538
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:26,879
Speaker 3: somewhere with this. I promise if if we get to

539
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 3: a point of televising these joint practices if they're not national,

540
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 3: and those are also self contained. I'm just imagining Paul

541
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 3: up in the booth a little bit early ahead of

542
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 3: those preseason games and he's calling out players from two

543
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 3: teams for joint practice.

544
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,399
Speaker 2: Danny, we'd be deployed down on the field. You know,

545
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 2: they'll bring you want to go in the boot for broadcast,

546
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 2: They'll bring a day Pash, the heavy hitter, and then

547
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 2: you know we'll be down as sideline reports.

548
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 3: So what if we do TV and radio?

549
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 2: It's true, I didn't think about that.

550
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 3: You're right, Paul might be saying, actually, let's not televise

551
00:27:58,680 --> 00:27:59,640
Speaker 3: these joint practicing.

552
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna get my head around that. Danny.

553
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 2: You're gonna take it away here, let's do it all right.

554
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 2: Here we go getting cultured. Uh, Danny will segue.

555
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 3: To you getting cultured with Danny. It is not just

556
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:14,160
Speaker 3: directed at Paul.

557
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 2: Am I the default uncultured philistine around here.

558
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 4: Yes, you got me very excited.

559
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 2: Now.

560
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 3: I am on social media and consume more at pop

561
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 3: culture than both of you combined.

562
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 2: I think I'm being unfairly profiled. But go ahead, what go.

563
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 4: I don't want to step on Danny, but I do

564
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 4: think that Cody got a little taken by surprise by

565
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 4: that intro there, Paul.

566
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 2: As we warned Cody, there can be an on side

567
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 2: kick called at any point in the game. That's on you.

568
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 2: It's on you.

569
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 4: It's true.

570
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 3: Shout out to Zach Erschman for filling in last week.

571
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 3: But I'm sure you both are happy. I'm back for

572
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 3: some getting cultured. So this unintentionally, I mean, you.

573
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 2: Hung really is did you just sort of undermine Zach?

574
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 2: Was that like one of those passive I'm just like

575
00:28:59,080 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 2: it was two months ago.

576
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 3: I'm assuming y'all missed me, did you not?

577
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 2: You were hanging out with Zach at the big cocktail

578
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 2: party at the league meetings? Tell us? Was there any

579
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 2: good gossip from the Was there any good gossip at

580
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 2: the league? At the party? Everyone was there?

581
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 3: So getting cultured organically? Whoa, we found a theme this

582
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 3: week and it was not my intention, although when I

583
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 3: was gathering all my information and it just ended up

584
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 3: being a food week.

585
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 2: So buckle up, gladly, Paul.

586
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 4: This is for you.

587
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 3: If you love taco bell and you love baseball, you're

588
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 3: in luck.

589
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 4: Do you love either one of those things?

590
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 2: My then sixteen year old punk used to work for

591
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 2: Taco Bell, so bring it up pretty good. This is

592
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 2: in my wheelhouse.

593
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 3: Whenever a four hundred and twenty plus foot home run

594
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,719
Speaker 3: is hit in the MLB, the next day you can

595
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 3: get a free Baja Blast from Taco Bell.

596
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 2: Do you know, ach sugar, isn't it a Baja Blast?

597
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 3: Don't tell the listeners, don't ruin. They're fun.

598
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 2: I haven't had a soda and thirty If I had

599
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 2: a Baja.

600
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 3: Blast, he would explode.

601
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 2: I wouldn't sleep.

602
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 3: Carbon.

603
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 4: You haven't had a thirty years at.

604
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 3: Least at least that is actually very interesting if you have,

605
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 3: I guess we'll I'm not even I'm not even a

606
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 3: Baja Blast fan because I'm not a big soda person.

607
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 3: But you can go online, you can sign up, and

608
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 3: then the next day you get a coupon in your inbox.

609
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 3: So that's fun. Fact.

610
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 2: Although if you put a Fago red Pop in front

611
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 2: of me, I might be tempted.

612
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 4: That's very Michie Little Detroit.

613
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 3: Well, Chick fil A is actually coming up with a

614
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:42,719
Speaker 3: solution to technically yes, they are offering certain locations are

615
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 3: offering free ice cream to families who agree to put

616
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 3: their phones away at the table to encourage less screen us,

617
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 3: you put your phone in a box and then you

618
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 3: come get your phone when you're done eating and you

619
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 3: get ice cream.

620
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 4: I like that.

621
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Speaker 2: No, I like that a lot. That's that's sort of

622
00:30:58,280 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 2: a good fan. You know, if you want to mark

623
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 2: your off as family friendly, that's good. I mean, you know,

624
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 2: anything where you can help parents get the kids to

625
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 2: everybody now put the phone down. Do you get can

626
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 2: you get.

627
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 4: Your kids to do that? I mean, I don't know,

628
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 4: with your kids being teenagers, I don't know how often

629
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 4: you eat together at this point.

630
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 2: I don't have many rules, at least not many that

631
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 2: are followed at COSAKELVC, but the no phone at the

632
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 2: dinner table is a strict one that is enforced.

633
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 4: I thought, Cheetoh does he get to use his phone

634
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 4: at the dinner table?

635
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 2: And anybody who feeds Cheetoh at the dinner table, you're

636
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 2: gonna go two minute penalty.

637
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 3: I don't have a note about Cheetos, but it might

638
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 3: be hard to break off a piece of that kick

639
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 3: cat bar. Paul mentioned it briefly earlier. If you're not

640
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 3: in the know, here you go. Twelve tons, yes, twelve

641
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:49,959
Speaker 3: tons of Kitcat products were stolen. I have not figured

642
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 3: out yet if it were stolen by the louver thieves,

643
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 3: could be so much else.

644
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 4: It wasn't that part of the world, though.

645
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 3: Ish twelve tons of kit cat products were stolen wall

646
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 3: in transit between their factory and Italy and the destination

647
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 3: in Poland. And what's been fun online is other companies

648
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 3: have been poking fun and they've been essentially implying that

649
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 3: they stole all these Kitkats and are like Applebee's right

650
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 3: out back steakhouse, putting things out on social media that

651
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 3: they stole all these cakes.

652
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 4: The official press release that KitKat put out, which is

653
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 4: dead serious, but it looks like an onion thing of like,

654
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 4: don't worry, like there the supply chain will not be disrupted.

655
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 4: And I will also say this, it's not like kitkats

656
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Speaker 4: are very heavy. That's a lot of damn kitkats and

657
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Speaker 4: twelve tons.

658
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Speaker 2: Another part of the statement said, while we appreciate the

659
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Speaker 2: criminal's exceptional taste, the fact remains that cargo theft is

660
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 2: an escalating issue for businesses of all sizes. And then

661
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 2: the stream of tweets from all the comedians out there,

662
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Speaker 2: including some comparing the oil shortage to KitKat shorts.

663
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Speaker 4: Okay, we have to assume right that it was in

664
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Speaker 4: an unmarked truck and they were just trying to steal something.

665
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 4: It happened to be Kitcats. No way, there's a giant

666
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 4: semi trailer that says KitKat on the side, and there's.

667
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 3: Why not dream big?

668
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 4: Well, because I've looked into the black market for KitKat.

669
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Speaker 4: It's not there. It doesn't exist.

670
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Speaker 3: And in preparation reeses maybe, but in preparation for the

671
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 3: Masters next week, I had to bring this up every

672
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Speaker 3: year and for my favorite times to talk about it.

673
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 3: The Master's dinner menu has been dropped courtesy of Rory McElroy.

674
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Speaker 3: Master starts next Thursday. Here we go, bring it, Yeah,

675
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 3: let's go. Let's judge the menu. Here are the appetizer's. Paul, peach,

676
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 3: your ricotta flatbread?

677
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 4: I'd eat it.

678
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 3: Was that clean cut rock shrip tempora.

679
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 2: Sure, Darren, wy, don't you just sort of note when

680
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 2: you wouldn't eat it? Okay?

681
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 3: Peach and ricotta, flatbread, rock shrip tempora, bacon, wrapped dates

682
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 3: and grilled ex Elk sliders. It's the appetizers.

683
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 2: I could do without the dates otherwise, Okay, the.

684
00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 3: First course, you and your sugar yellowfin tuna apostio. Main

685
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 3: course choice of a wagoo, filet mignon or seared salmon. Okay,

686
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 3: pretty quite so far. Here are the sides. Traditional Irish

687
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 3: champ which is essentially mashed potatoes, saft ted Brussels sprouts,

688
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 3: blazed carrots with brown butter, and crispy onion rings. Dead silence.

689
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 3: Here's the dessert.

690
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 2: It's a lot better than some of the other menus.

691
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 3: I heard a lot better dessert. Sticky toffee pudding with

692
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 3: vanilla ice cream and warm toffee sauce and a whole

693
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 3: bunch of wine.

694
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 4: Wine is good. I honestly it would have been. It's

695
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 4: too bad this didn't come up when Zach was still here,

696
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 4: because I'd love to know what his master's dinner would be.

697
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 3: Chicken tenders, mac and cheese.

698
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 2: French fries, but basically off the kids menu.

699
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 3: I have no issues with that, and I did see online.

700
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 3: You can also order some of these quote tastes of

701
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 3: the master's hosting kits. If you're going to have a

702
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 3: hosting party. You can order a sense of the pimento

703
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 3: cheese the egg salad to serve. If you're having a

704
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 3: master's watching and you both have been cultured. I hope

705
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 3: you weren't too hungry. You welcome.

706
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 2: There's no way Rory McElroy did that on his own.

707
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 2: He had a professional give a little assistance. I think

708
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 2: he outsourced it, created it, actually make the food well

709
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 2: both you know the latter obviously, but the selection was

710
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 2: well done. I think that goes beyond just you know, Rory,

711
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 2: but that's just men.

712
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:21,879
Speaker 3: You everything on the menu.

713
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely absolutely. Now what are we in terms of

714
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 2: the mock draft fodder that's out there? Would you go

715
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 2: ahead and consume that? I mean the whole Ty Simpson

716
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 2: hype train that erupted late last week? Where are we

717
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 2: on that front? Was there any further discussion of that?

718
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 2: And when Ty Simpson is making bold proclamations that he's

719
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 2: a culture changer, a game changer, an organization changer, like

720
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 2: he said in response to one question at his pro day.

721
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Speaker 4: You know, it's it's funny. It's funny you say that.

722
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 4: I just I I had a brief conversation with Mike

723
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:06,280
Speaker 4: Laflor this morning and one of the things he doesn't

724
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 4: like to do, and he said it when he was

725
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 4: talking to us in the scrum yesterday was like he

726
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 4: doesn't like talking about himself, and I brought that up

727
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 4: again to him, and he was talking about the interview

728
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 4: process and like what makes you a good fit to

729
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 4: be the next in this case, the next head coach

730
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 4: of the Arizona Cardinals. And you just made like what

731
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 4: makes Ty Simpson that? I mean, I don't I don't

732
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 4: know what I would say if somebody asked me like that,

733
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 4: I'm like, well, know you need a quarterback. I'm a quarterback.

734
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 2: First off, Two questions, one follow up question to your

735
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 2: observation right there. You had a chance to talk with

736
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 2: the head coach again this morning, Well, can you tell

737
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 2: us about that, Darren?

738
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 4: I can tell you that he was he was hoping

739
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 4: that his brother was going to be off a TV

740
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 4: appearance a lot faster than he was because he's waiting

741
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:50,959
Speaker 4: for his brother.

742
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 2: I say, okay, I'll leave.

743
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 4: It at that.

744
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 2: I'm gonna dismiss Matt Lafleur for a minute. I'm going

745
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 2: to go directly to Kyle Shanahan. If work with me here,

746
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 2: If Ty Simpson's comp is Brock Party, and if Brock

747
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 2: Party is theoretically a perfect fit for Kyle Shanahan and

748
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 2: or Kyle Shanahan made him fit an offense that he

749
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:17,840
Speaker 2: devised around brock Party and brock Purty just got paid

750
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:22,280
Speaker 2: like an elite quarterback, which he did. Then why wouldn't

751
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,320
Speaker 2: Ty Simpson make sense for Mike.

752
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 3: Lafleur because brock Party was mister irrelevant, He was not

753
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 3: the number three overall pick.

754
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, so Kyle Shannan thought Trey Lance was a better

755
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 4: choice than brock Purty.

756
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 2: So you're saying that the Niners stumbled into brock Perty.

757
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 3: Not to discredit Party or what the Niners and Shanahan

758
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,800
Speaker 3: have done, but there there was a little bit of

759
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 3: luck in how things panned out.

760
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Speaker 4: And I want to ask this question counterpoint Paul, Okay,

761
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Speaker 4: what why are we saying Ty Simpson is brock Purty esque.

762
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 2: No, I'm bringing up the fact that the comp for

763
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 2: Tysonson everywhere is why is that?

764
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 4: So?

765
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:05,760
Speaker 2: It's a few things. The measurables are literally almost identical.

766
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 2: They're like an eighth of an inch difference one pound.

767
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 2: They weigh different at the combine supposedly the same caliber

768
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 2: of arm strength good enough, not great, not elite. You're

769
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 2: not throwing the hundred mile an hour fastball, but you

770
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,840
Speaker 2: have enough zip on the ball to go across the

771
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:30,800
Speaker 2: field when needed, enough mobility to have some escapability. But

772
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,359
Speaker 2: you're not gonna pull a Kyler, Murray, Lamar Jackson, even

773
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 2: Josh Allen and outrun DB's, you know, halfway down the field.

774
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 2: And then there's but then there's one huge separator. And

775
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 2: Dave Pash brought this up us filming with Wolf. We

776
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Speaker 2: had pass as a guest and new enough to ask

777
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Speaker 2: Dave about brock Purty versus Tye Simpson because he called

778
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,319
Speaker 2: both their college games, a lot of their college games.

779
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 2: Dave is the first doing mind and he said it again,

780
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,800
Speaker 2: I never saw Brock Party as a franchise quarterback, starting quarterback,

781
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 2: coming maybe a backup in the league.

782
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 4: Nobody did.

783
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 2: Brock Party started forty six career games in college ty Simpson,

784
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:12,399
Speaker 2: everybody now has started fifteen. So that is the huge

785
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 2: difference experience. Now, the agent, I presume, is the one

786
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 2: who's put out a whole series of calamities that hit

787
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,800
Speaker 2: Ty Simpson about two thirds of the way into last season,

788
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 2: including now they say he had gastritis. I have no

789
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 2: idea what gastritis is. I'm guessing it's not conducive to

790
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 2: playing high level football. I really don't know. But there's

791
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 2: other things. There's a back, there's an arm, there's a

792
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 2: whole series of injuries that apparently he was dealing with.

793
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 4: You know what's interesting, Paul is on all those measurables

794
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 4: and comparables and gastritis, you didn't mention brain processing, which

795
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 4: you can't because nobody's gonna know that. And that is

796
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,840
Speaker 4: part of what Brock makes brock Purty what he is.

797
00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:00,840
Speaker 4: And I just when you you talk about all the

798
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 4: things that brock party has that Ty Simpson has, those

799
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 4: are all things that made Brock Purty a seventh round pick.

800
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 4: And if he didn't have the brain power to make

801
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 4: it work, then he never would have panned out. And

802
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 4: that's the problem you have. You can't, in my opinion,

803
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 4: there's no way you can spend a top five pick

804
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:21,240
Speaker 4: on Tyson.

805
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 3: I wonder too how much of this is just given

806
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 3: the lack of other quarterbacks to talk about, right is

807
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 3: a lot of the question is okay, well, after Fernanda Mendoza,

808
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 3: whose quarterback number two to get drafted? And so I

809
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 3: think it's kind of snowballed when okay, sure Ty Simpson

810
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 3: doesn't necessarily mean that would make sense for a top five,

811
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 3: top ten pick now because you don't have a lot

812
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 3: of options based on what analysts and people who cover

813
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 3: college football really closely are predicting. Of Okay, if ty

814
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 3: Simpson is the best quarterback to take as the second

815
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 3: QB to draft, do you wait and you risk him

816
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 3: being there or not being there around two and so

817
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 3: that might quote unquote raise his draft stock, which I

818
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:07,240
Speaker 3: know you wrote about, Darren, of if Simpson is drafted

819
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,800
Speaker 3: in the first round, is that because people just didn't

820
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 3: want to lose the opportunity of him not being there later.

821
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Speaker 4: Well, again, I don't I've never really had any issues

822
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 4: if somebody's taking him the back half of the first round.

823
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 4: It's the front half of the first round that I

824
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 4: don't understand, and I understand people that would be like,

825
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 4: what are you talking about, Darren. If you're willing to

826
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 4: take them in the back half of the first round,

827
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 4: then why wouldn't you be willing to take them in

828
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,280
Speaker 4: the front half if you need them? Well, in my opinion,

829
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 4: if the higher up you're drafting, the more needs you have,

830
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 4: the more important needs, and the better players you're going

831
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 4: to be able to get.

832
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Speaker 2: What if we said there was intel that the Rams

833
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 2: were interested at thirteen, the Jets were interested at sixteen,

834
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 2: would that change your thinking?

835
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 3: No, No, because just greater needs.

836
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 4: Just just because there's interest in him doesn't mean he's

837
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 4: it makes him any better of a pick. That's that's

838
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 4: that's the thing that you kind of have to get passed.

839
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 4: And I understand you could be making a mistake. I

840
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 4: get that, but that that's the roll of the dice

841
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 4: you're doing with everybody. And if you if you go

842
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 4: and take a guy that universally is seen as a

843
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 4: not that guy at this point, and you roll the

844
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 4: dice on him and you miss.

845
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 2: Although just saying a single first round pick, albeit number

846
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:40,359
Speaker 2: three overall, is a lot easier to stomach in terms

847
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 2: of a miss than Trey Lance, where he gave up

848
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 2: three first round picks to take him number three over.

849
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Speaker 4: That's that's fair. But they're not in that position. They

850
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:53,760
Speaker 4: wouldn't be taking. It's not a choice of draft trading

851
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 4: a draft.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I just and by the way, two things

853
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 2: on the processing, No one truly knows until he gets

854
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 2: to the NFL, and you see NFL defensive schemes and

855
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 2: what NFL defensive coordinators try to do to you, and

856
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,919
Speaker 2: that skis is and pre and post snap etctera and more, etc.

857
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 2: He's the son of a college football head coach, so supposedly,

858
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 2: as you know elite football, IQ grew up with it.

859
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 2: And then the Dan Rolofski's of the world and some

860
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 2: other analysts have broken down his film where they took away,

861
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 2: you know, the bubble screens and the swing passes, and

862
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 2: they just analyze all the downfield throws, and supposedly he

863
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 2: scales very high in terms of the ability to go

864
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 2: through his progressions.

865
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Speaker 3: That that can all be true. But again to Darren's

866
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 3: earlier point, to a certain extent, when you're national media

867
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Speaker 3: and you have nothing to talk about besides the draft

868
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 3: for eight weeks, you're going to start looking for storylines,

869
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Speaker 3: right and correlated or not. Dane Brugler of The Athletic

870
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 3: who I know, we all highly respect, and he puts

871
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 3: out The Beast, which is hundreds of pages of work

872
00:43:54,360 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 3: on almost every single prospect that is entering the draft.

873
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 3: He put out a tweet that Darren had shared with

874
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 3: us a few weeks ago that quarterbacks with fifteen or

875
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 3: fewer college starts who went in the first round over

876
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 3: the last decade, which he says in the tweet it's

877
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 3: not a disqualifier, but still tough. In regards to Ty

878
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:22,360
Speaker 3: Simpson includes Anthony Richardson, Mitchell Trubisky, and Dwayne Haskins. Not

879
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 3: necessarily correlated. Not trying to, you know, put Ty Simpson

880
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,320
Speaker 3: down a bag, but when you're looking at the history

881
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 3: and how things have panned out, that's important things to

882
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 3: look at.

883
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 4: I always get worried the national stuff. In our mock

884
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 4: draft tracker, somebody one of the people that mocked Francis

885
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 4: mauiinoa to the Cardinals not a bad decision at three,

886
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 4: but in his descriptory he was talking about how it

887
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 4: gives them a chance to replace Christian Jones at right tackle.

888
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 4: As Christian Jones he played a full game. Yet what really,

889
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 4: I mean, these are the issues that I have when

890
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 4: you're talking about, oh my god, wetting these things together. Right,

891
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 4: I'll due respect to Christian Jones, Yeah, a good human being,

892
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 4: but he has not started at a right tackle.

893
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,799
Speaker 2: So okay, so twofold you guys have obviously then come

894
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 2: around to yours truly and Carson back in round three, right,

895
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 2: you've obviously that can circle. Or Sonny Style said number

896
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,359
Speaker 2: three overall? Have you either one of you? There wasn't

897
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 2: There wasn't assessment overall.

898
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:27,320
Speaker 4: Yeah. No.

899
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 3: When I heard Sunny Styles, I'm thinking you trade down

900
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,800
Speaker 3: maybe a few spots if somebody wants to snag Jeremiah

901
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:34,800
Speaker 3: Love from Tennessee.

902
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 4: Maybe that's really That's really the conversation we need to

903
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 4: have as we get closer, is is anybody going to

904
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 4: want to trade up for that pick?

905
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 3: You don't have a lot of quarterbacks. It makes it tough.

906
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 4: I don't think there's any way, But if we want

907
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 4: to keep this somewhat interesting.

908
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:54,280
Speaker 2: By the way, Carson back forty three total college starts,

909
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 2: and I would I would say, yes.

910
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 3: I think lighting the lamp for yourself, I.

911
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,800
Speaker 2: Think, MANI when doesn't he I think the light the

912
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 2: red phone is going to light up in the draft room.

913
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 2: Someone will call for number three overall just to kick

914
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,799
Speaker 2: the tires on Jeremiah Love. I do think that's gonna happen.

915
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 2: I do think there is a school of thought that

916
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 2: he is Bijon Robinson Saquon Barkley, and for that team

917
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 2: who considers themselves that weapon away that they be willing

918
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 2: based on the price, and maybe the price isn't that

919
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:29,800
Speaker 2: extreme if you're washing at seven and you want to

920
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 2: come up, you know, and Moni's pretty confident he's gonna

921
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 2: get one of the two tackles and or an edge

922
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 2: at seven and get an extra pick in there somehow,

923
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 2: maybe you don't have to pay through the nose if

924
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:43,839
Speaker 2: you're still in the back half of the top ten.

925
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 4: I just know that come the Cardinals underground the Tuesday

926
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:49,800
Speaker 4: after the draft, It's going to be really fun with

927
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,919
Speaker 4: me trying to backtrack when the Cardinals either take Love

928
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:55,360
Speaker 4: or Simpson with a number three overall pick, and.

929
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:57,399
Speaker 2: I'm going to have everybody on my ass we keep

930
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,800
Speaker 2: her seats well, at least you won't beyond hard knocks

931
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 2: like the Seahawks. Now, this came out of the this

932
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 2: is our NFC West Update desk here by the way,

933
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 2: looking over the black wall into the backyards of our neighbors.

934
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 2: So the Seahawks on hard knocks for the first time

935
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 2: ever in their team history for training camp yep for training.

936
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 2: So like, was this foisted upon them or you know,

937
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:25,959
Speaker 2: a Super Bowl? Chances do would they like be holding

938
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 2: to do this? Guy I saw new England is doing

939
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 2: it in twenty seven reportedly, So how was it the

940
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:34,320
Speaker 2: two Super Bowl combatants now are the next two hard knocks.

941
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:37,319
Speaker 4: I didn't do any kind of research on this because

942
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 4: I didn't find out about it until we were at

943
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 4: the Monday night party and somebody mentioned it that at

944
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 4: least we weren't on hard knocks, and I'm like, why,

945
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 4: how do you know that? And they mentioned those two teams.

946
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 4: I don't know. I know I know where hard knocks

947
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 4: have gone the last few years that it's become more

948
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 4: and more apparent that the league was going to have

949
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 4: to tell teams that were going to have to do

950
00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:59,839
Speaker 4: it because no teams really wanted to do it years.

951
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 3: I'd have to look and see if this is still true.

952
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:05,799
Speaker 3: I believe in years past it was if your team

953
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,840
Speaker 3: had a first year head coach or you had not

954
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 3: made the playoffs in say three to five years, you

955
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:14,879
Speaker 3: were allowed to say no. But I believe the other

956
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 3: teams it was not as easy to turn down the request.

957
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:21,839
Speaker 3: That could very well have been updated because now they

958
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 3: do the training camp, they do the season, They've done

959
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:27,359
Speaker 3: an entire conference for an entire season, so maybe those

960
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 3: boundaries or stipulations have changed over the years for Hard Knocks.

961
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 2: Personally, I can't wait to see how the Sam Donald

962
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 2: contract holdout is going to play out on a Hard Knocks.

963
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 2: So I'm looking forward to that all the inside and

964
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 2: the inside story when Sam Donald decides, wait a minute,

965
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 2: I just want you a Super Bowl. I'm getting paid

966
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 2: in the thirties, I need about another twenty per year

967
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 2: and I'm not showing up until you redo my contracts.

968
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,240
Speaker 2: So I think that'll that'll be good fodder for Hard Knocks.

969
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,760
Speaker 2: Just trying to speak that into existence. And then Kyle Shanahan,

970
00:48:57,920 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 2: it's funny. I'm just looking at this right now.

971
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:03,840
Speaker 4: The rule used to be if you had made it

972
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 4: to the playoffs, you couldn't you could turn it down, okay,

973
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 4: and so that's that's not a thing anymore. I think

974
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 4: they're at this point just telling people they got to

975
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 4: do it.

976
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 2: Sounds like someone told Kyle Shanahan he has to go

977
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:20,439
Speaker 2: to Australia because he wasn't really overjoyed about that news,

978
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 2: and no, he not happy to go to town Under.

979
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 2: It's it's no joke. I remember the local baseball team

980
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:30,840
Speaker 2: had to go to Australia and the clubhouse was not

981
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:34,400
Speaker 2: happy about it, and and there was definitely a fatigue

982
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 2: hangover the first two weeks of the season because starting

983
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 2: the year down Under. So it's it is not just

984
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:45,280
Speaker 2: going across the Atlantic to London. It is a whole

985
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:48,440
Speaker 2: different toll takes on your body via the time zones

986
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:51,799
Speaker 2: to go to Australia. So with that in mind, dear

987
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:55,319
Speaker 2: schedule makers, if you can have the Cardinals play either

988
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 2: the Rams of forty nine ers in week two, I

989
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 2: think everyone would really appreciate that.

990
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 3: Can we can we go further for making requests and

991
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 3: if we're playing the forty nine ers in week two,

992
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 3: have it be at home. That's right, because when we

993
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 3: played their week three the last two years, I have melted.

994
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 2: Oh that's where the powerpole of incompetence all started, you know.

995
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 2: So in fact, the replacement refs might end up on

996
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 2: the power pole, the ray gun and replacement refs. That

997
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:24,880
Speaker 2: could be. That could be the impetus that.

998
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 3: We're going to go through the whole podcast without finding

999
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 3: a way to bring up Larry Fitzgerald Paul in the News.

1000
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:31,280
Speaker 3: He was around then.

1001
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:34,760
Speaker 4: All right, Larry, Now you guys love talking flag football.

1002
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 2: Here we go I've seen my you know, so fitz

1003
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 2: was there. Now, I heard Larry Fitzgerald junior. But Junior

1004
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 2: is already like in spring football for Notre Dame.

1005
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 4: I was, no, that's no, Larry Fitzgerald Junior. Is Larry

1006
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 4: Fitzgerald the Hall of Famer?

1007
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:55,399
Speaker 2: Oh it's Devin who's playing? Oh my gosh, edit that out. Okay,

1008
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 2: I'm sorry about that, My goodness. So Larry Fitzgerald Junior

1009
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:02,440
Speaker 2: was there? Yes, Okay, how old is Larry Junior? About?

1010
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 2: Is he a high school Wait?

1011
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 3: I'm confused.

1012
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:12,360
Speaker 4: Now, Okay, Larry Fitzgerald Junior went to pit and played

1013
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 4: seventeen seasons with the Cardinals.

1014
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 2: Going to the Hall of Okay, okay, I spent you

1015
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 2: were right there just calling him Larry Fitsher. Now it's

1016
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, it's it's.

1017
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:28,439
Speaker 3: Not We're forget about official press conference from the league

1018
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:30,840
Speaker 3: and their fits is one.

1019
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 4: Of the Danny had never met him.

1020
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 3: Yes, I started in September of twenty one, so I

1021
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 3: missed him by just about a few months. So I

1022
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 3: had a chance to meet him, which was really lovely.

1023
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:42,280
Speaker 3: He's one of the proponents, he's one of the people

1024
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:46,320
Speaker 3: champion what the league announced as a professional flag football

1025
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:48,800
Speaker 3: league which will be coming soon. They're going to launch

1026
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 3: it in conjunction with the LA Olympics coming up here

1027
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 3: in the next few years. So they will have a

1028
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 3: professional flag football league for men and women. And that's

1029
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:01,319
Speaker 3: been an initiative. Is flag ful ball at the young

1030
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 3: age going up to high school. The last few years

1031
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 3: Cardinals have really been at the forefront of that. So

1032
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 3: now they've partnered with Tomorrow Sports and there will soon

1033
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 3: enough be a professional flag football league. And fits is

1034
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 3: one of the not even just NFL players, but former

1035
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 3: current professional athletes that are championing this new league coming up.

1036
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:27,239
Speaker 2: Wasn't he also an early investor in pickleball, soy.

1037
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:30,919
Speaker 4: Pro pickleball owner, flag football owner. He said he wanted

1038
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 4: to be an owner.

1039
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 2: He's on the corporate board for Dick Sporting Goods. I know.

1040
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 2: So yeah, Larry doing more than just playing golf, you know,

1041
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 2: post playing days. So that's well done. Okay, Well, I

1042
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 2: mean look pickleball, flag football. Yeah, five years from now,

1043
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:52,719
Speaker 2: ten years from now, especially after all the exposure it

1044
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:55,800
Speaker 2: gets to the twenty twenty eight Summer Olympics flag football,

1045
00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 2: I can see where once again Larry any life right,

1046
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 2: buying low, selling high. Yes, there's a bright future what

1047
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 2: he does. It was interesting to hear Sean Payton though,

1048
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 2: say how it is a totally different game from NFL football,

1049
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 2: because Sean Payton was part of coaching in whatever that

1050
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 2: event was, the Fanatics.

1051
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:17,759
Speaker 4: Yes, Larry was one of the honorary coaches or something.

1052
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 2: And Sean Payton said, I'd be shocked if a single

1053
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 2: NFL player even makes Team USA Flag because it's two

1054
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:27,800
Speaker 2: totally different sports in so many ways.

1055
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:30,879
Speaker 4: I think that's fair. And we saw it that day

1056
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:33,360
Speaker 4: and it'll be interesting, and I will give the flag

1057
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:37,360
Speaker 4: the current USA Flag football players credit, like when the

1058
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:39,279
Speaker 4: NFL player said, oh, we want to all play and

1059
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 4: they're all like, don't don't ignore us. We're we're better

1060
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:44,400
Speaker 4: than you, and then they showed it.

1061
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:49,919
Speaker 2: All right, good anything else from Larry you know during

1062
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 2: the press conference that stood out, Okay.

1063
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:57,320
Speaker 3: All right, tomorrow's April fools. So keep your head on

1064
00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 3: a swivel you two.

1065
00:53:59,280 --> 00:53:59,879
Speaker 4: Is that a threat?

1066
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:03,400
Speaker 2: Take it as you wish, Darren, you can tell us

1067
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:06,400
Speaker 2: it's just us. Is Azycardinals dot Com gonna pull something?

1068
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 2: I mean, do we need to be aware? Is the

1069
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:11,360
Speaker 2: Cardinals social media going to pull something. I mean, should

1070
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 2: we be ready here?

1071
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 4: Should I repost my rod Tidwell story from April Fools

1072
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 4: of twenty six?

1073
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:18,799
Speaker 2: Iks right, Yes I should do We should do that. Yes,

1074
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 2: you should throw that out there.

1075
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 4: Okay, I wonder if people would actually appreciate it. And

1076
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:24,320
Speaker 4: when I mean people, I mean people that could be

1077
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:24,759
Speaker 4: mad at me.

1078
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:28,720
Speaker 2: Well, I've said it before, I'll say it again leading

1079
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:31,320
Speaker 2: up to the draft, especially now till the draft is

1080
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 2: officially silly season. So it's perfect that the month of

1081
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:36,880
Speaker 2: April actually begins with April Fools, considering everything we're going

1082
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 2: to hear over the next three to four weeks leading

1083
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 2: up to the draft, whether it's a certain quarterback or otherwise.

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Speaker 2: So after we're done editing out my brutal gaff a

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Speaker 2: few minutes ago, I think that'll do it for this

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