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Speaker 1: We're in studio right now with Colts defensive tack old

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Speaker 1: pro bowler DeForest Buckner is with us. I'm Matt Taylor Defoe.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back man to the off season workout program. How

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Speaker 1: you doing. I'm going good. I'm glad to be here absolutely.

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Speaker 1: How How are things with the off season workout program

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Speaker 1: so far? I mean just in terms of camaraderie? How

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Speaker 1: how freshening is this to be back with the guys,

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Speaker 1: even though it is the month of April and May here, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean it's it's it's a lot of fun being

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Speaker 1: back in the office, you know what I mean. I'm

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Speaker 1: having the guys back in town, you know, so it's fun.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of like a you know, first day of

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Speaker 1: school kind of vibes, you know what I mean. So

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Speaker 1: it's like that all the time. And um, you know,

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Speaker 1: just being able to grind, going through that grind together, um,

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Speaker 1: building that camaraderie like you were saying, you know, like

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Speaker 1: the d line. We were going to top golf tonight,

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Speaker 1: so that should be fun, you know, and you know,

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Speaker 1: see who got the best swing? You know all that? Sure,

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Speaker 1: you know, Grove kind of took the cake last year.

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Speaker 1: We did it. Yeah, it was insane. He had like

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Speaker 1: a happy Gilmour swing going on, and the craziest stuff

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Speaker 1: was happening. He said. The neighbors down the street is

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Speaker 1: that it probably, but it was. It was just insane,

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Speaker 1: and uh, you know, we had a lot of fun.

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Speaker 1: You know, just doing little things like that can go

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Speaker 1: a long way for the season. How's your golf game?

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Speaker 1: I mean, is that something you prioritize in the off season.

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Speaker 1: I try to in the wintertime and yeah, some warmer climates,

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Speaker 1: I try to go out as much as I can.

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Speaker 1: But you know, it getting having the second one, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know it kind of it kind of makes it

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Speaker 1: a little more challenging to get out there on the links.

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Speaker 1: I understand. I understand. Um with your off season, Now

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Speaker 1: that you're back, do you feel normal, so to speak, physically?

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Speaker 1: How long does it take for you in the off

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Speaker 1: season to get back to Uh? I mean I did

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Speaker 1: definitely took a little bit longer, you know, recovering and

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Speaker 1: stuff like that. You know, as you know, I'm getting

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Speaker 1: older or whatever it is. But um, yeah, I just

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Speaker 1: definitely took a little bit longer to you know kind

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Speaker 1: of stuff my feet get you know, recover a little

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Speaker 1: bit more, and my body's feeling good. Body's feeling great.

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Speaker 1: Um going into the off season, going into this off

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Speaker 1: season program, you know, feeling feeling pretty strong. Um. So

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Speaker 1: it's it's gonna be fun, you know, just being able

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Speaker 1: to get back to it, you know a little bit

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Speaker 1: more food throttle and getting on the field and moving around.

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I mean, like I said, a body feels good.

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Speaker 1: That's the Forrest buckner with us. And going along with that.

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Speaker 1: Towards the end of the season, you were battling in

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Speaker 1: that knee injury. I know that that kept you out

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Speaker 1: of the lineup, you know, full throttle there towards the

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Speaker 1: end of the season. I guess a two part question

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Speaker 1: A how tough was that to deal with? And then

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Speaker 1: be just how tough was it to compartmentalize. I'm not

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Speaker 1: able to give what I normally can give to this

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Speaker 1: team the way the season ended. Yeah, just like the

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Speaker 1: little Nixon things. Of course of the seasons was just

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Speaker 1: adding up towards the end of the season, and Um,

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Speaker 1: I was dealing with that knee and uh, you know

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Speaker 1: I just had a had assist that flared up on me. Um. Uh,

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Speaker 1: that got real bad. Like in the beginning of the week,

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Speaker 1: I could barely walk, you know, I was kind of, um,

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Speaker 1: you know, hobbling around the office, and uh, honestly, I'd like,

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Speaker 1: I'll try to get in my stance and run and

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Speaker 1: I couldn't. And you know, I just you know, they

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Speaker 1: And you know, um, I was, you know, I was

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Speaker 1: but I just didn't. I didn't feel a hundred you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean, it sucked. It was just a bad timing.

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Speaker 1: Also last year, I mean you were you were doubled,

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Speaker 1: double teamed almost seventy percent of the time. When you

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Speaker 1: look back at the analytics, how do you how do

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Speaker 1: you look at that? Do you look at that? Is

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Speaker 1: hey here I am I'm getting a ton of respect

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Speaker 1: or is it? Gosh, it's so frustrating because if I

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Speaker 1: reach even more havoc here. Yeah, I mean it's definitely

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I'm obviously I'm demanding a

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Speaker 1: I said, it's challenging, it's frustrating at times, but it

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Speaker 1: Also along with that unique in gockways here now coming

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Speaker 1: some some of those double teams away from you because

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Speaker 1: he is now he is here now on the end

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Speaker 1: that at defensive end on this defense. No, yeah, man,

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Speaker 1: know he uh, I said somewhere DeForrest Buckner is fist pumping,

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Speaker 1: you know, No, yan, he got he has elite talent

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Speaker 1: he's got it. And I'm excited, you know, to work

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Speaker 1: a lot of guys. And you know, a lot of

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Speaker 1: I'm excited. I had moving forward and what Jan's gonna

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Speaker 1: do for us this year? All right, new scheme, now,

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Speaker 1: new defensive coordinator, Gus Bradley. Your first impressions of Gus

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Speaker 1: does it affect you? You know, I my first conversation

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Speaker 1: And I can see why guys spoke so highly of him,

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Speaker 1: Scheme wise, is it is it different? Is it drastically

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Speaker 1: But having that matchup on the tight end, it should

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Speaker 1: the the freedom that the guys got up front a

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Speaker 1: little bit more. I know it's important every year, maybe

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Speaker 1: new scheme, a new defensive coordinator, it's new for everybody,

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Speaker 1: even the veterans. But this is your first time since

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Speaker 1: joining the Colts that you have a true traditional offseason

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Speaker 1: workout program. How beneficial is that for you with new teammates,

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Speaker 1: everybody had it. You know, everybody was going through it

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Speaker 1: the past two years on you know, not being able

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Speaker 1: it's it's a new team. You know, you got new faces,

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