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Speaker 1: Around the NFL Podcast Kills It at Trivia Night. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan hanss joined in a room filled

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Speaker 1: with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, and Greg Rosenthal. What

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Speaker 1: is a boise? Hey, Dan, that's actually a good point.

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Speaker 1: I feel like if we never did this right now,

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Speaker 1: it's twenty five cabs locations, what's a good point. If

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Speaker 1: uh the local trivia night down at the Motor? Is

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Speaker 1: uh only been there, Like we pull the we pull

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Speaker 1: the garage. That is a very crowded field of trivia

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Speaker 1: we can dominate. That's the that's that's big fish, small

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Speaker 1: Who's in I'd be It's not a hard sell. I

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Speaker 1: Let's listen to this, all right. People who really want

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Speaker 1: to have a good time won't come to a slaughterhouse.

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Speaker 1: And we've got entirely too many troublemakers here, too many

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Speaker 1: a forty year old adolescens, felons, power drinkers, and trustees

431
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Speaker 1: of modern chemistry. He's going to change it sounds like

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Speaker 1: our London trip. So there is he cleans up another

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Speaker 1: locker room. I mean he's put his fingerprints all over

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Speaker 1: two of the worst teams in the n FC. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's job accompanied I need to see roadhouse. You have

436
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Speaker 1: to see roadhouse. I think you would appreciate it. I

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Speaker 1: actually think you would. Uh. He came in there, he

438
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Speaker 1: told the Bills get your act together. After team he's

439
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Speaker 1: half on the road. He's in his Mercedes. He's driving

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Speaker 1: to the next slaughterhouse. He galvanized the troops. Were they

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Speaker 1: using him for Jet specific information, because that would explain

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Speaker 1: a very surprising rump. That's that's potential. Although judging off

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Speaker 1: what we're hearing about Rrel prior, was he paying attention

444
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Speaker 1: when he was on the Jets? Are Uh? Let's move on.

445
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Speaker 1: The Cleveland Browns are coming off their best win of

446
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Speaker 1: the season. However, they're doing it with an interim coach uh,

447
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Speaker 1: Greg Williams UH and John Dorsey the general manager. His

448
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Speaker 1: job is to figure out who is the next guy

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Speaker 1: who is going to be in a full capacity. UH.

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Speaker 1: To take this as you will, but he is keeping

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Speaker 1: Greg Williams in mind, at least publicly, he said. When

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Speaker 1: asked if the list includes Greg Williams, Uh, Dorsey responded,

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Speaker 1: I think he deserves that, and UM, there's not too

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Speaker 1: much to make of that, but it does get back

455
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Speaker 1: to what a huge decision mark this is coming up

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Speaker 1: for the Browns, but just don't hire Greg Williams. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'd be kind of shocked if the answer was anything

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Speaker 1: other than a very keep the piece. Yes, he'll get

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Speaker 1: an interview, because every interim coach, for the most part,

460
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Speaker 1: is thrown into the interview cycle and then usual almost

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Speaker 1: always quickly. Ever been an interim coach who didn't get

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Speaker 1: an interview right right, and I and I listen, I

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Speaker 1: don't think Jovi has ever Well, that was that was

464
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Speaker 1: a different type of it had a couple of different interims,

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Speaker 1: Dan Campbell, j Dan Campbell, Cambell. They did give him

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Speaker 1: an interview. Campbell got pop. Greg Williams will never be

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Speaker 1: the head coach of this team. But I I do

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Speaker 1: think that the one thing I've heard a few times

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Speaker 1: that their practices when when Hugh Jackson went to the

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Speaker 1: Senior Bowl and it was described to some of the

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Speaker 1: worst practices the Senior Bowls ever had, that they were

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Speaker 1: disorganized in a big mess, which was a red flag

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Speaker 1: to me. They have talked about and I don't even

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Speaker 1: know what does this even mean, we don't even know

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Speaker 1: on the outside, but their practices have been much more

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Speaker 1: organized and much more focused, and the players have and

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Speaker 1: gotten more out of them. So it's just to go

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Speaker 1: to from here to the end of the year. I'd

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Speaker 1: rather have that than what was going on before. Finally,

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Speaker 1: in the news, UM, Joe Flacco has a hip injury

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Speaker 1: that seems troublesome. UH. It seems like something that could

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Speaker 1: shelve the quarterback for an extended amount of time. He's

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Speaker 1: not practicing to start the week, and it seems like

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Speaker 1: a possibility that he's gonna miss time, maybe extended time.

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Speaker 1: This injury is that at the end of the Joe

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Speaker 1: flacar on Baltimore, we shall see Robert Griffin, the third

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Speaker 1: who has really been a off the radar UH in

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Speaker 1: the NFL for a couple of years. Now. There's a

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Speaker 1: chance he even starts greg the next UH in the

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Speaker 1: next week or so, or even on Sunday. That is

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Speaker 1: very much a play. And Lamar Jackson was you know,

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Speaker 1: when this story first popped up during the Ravens bye week,

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Speaker 1: the thought was immediately, Okay, it's it's time to fly

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Speaker 1: with Lamar Jackson. We're gonna see what happens. But The

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Speaker 1: Athletic reported on on Wednesday that the Ravens have been

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Speaker 1: mentioning r G three as as a possible starter, and

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Speaker 1: so we don't know if they're just trying to keep

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Speaker 1: it vague so that you know their opponents can't prepare.

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Speaker 1: But when this flack Old story first popped up, I

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Speaker 1: gotta admit my my antenna was up. It just seemed

501
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Speaker 1: a little it seemed a little strange and convenient that

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Speaker 1: suddenly Flacco has this injury that came out of nowhere

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Speaker 1: right during the bye week. I don't know, it just

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Speaker 1: something that's going on. Something what's going on is I

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Speaker 1: don't know what's going on. Is he's injured, and their

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Speaker 1: coach says, if he can play, he's gonna be out

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Speaker 1: there normally. If you're normally, if you're just trying to

508
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Speaker 1: push push him away, you're not gonna say now if

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Speaker 1: he's capable of planing in is it's something that he's

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Speaker 1: been playing through. And they're just like, look, Joe, you

511
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Speaker 1: need to get this, you need to get this ready,

512
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Speaker 1: You need to get this right before you play again,

513
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Speaker 1: because you're playing through it and and it's not helping us.

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Speaker 1: And in mind, hey week, right, and in their mind

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Speaker 1: it's like, hey, we have our bye week, gra at

516
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Speaker 1: four and five, this is our last stand. You know,

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Speaker 1: maybe it's just the thing to get r G three

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Speaker 1: in there. Well, here's my other thing. I thought you

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Speaker 1: were going in a different direction. My antenna raised a

520
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Speaker 1: little bit because I was like, why wouldn't the obvious move,

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Speaker 1: uh be to put in the number one pick? And

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Speaker 1: I think the same reason at the end of the

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Speaker 1: preseason when they came out publicly and said, if something

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Speaker 1: happens to Flacco, it will be RG three under center,

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Speaker 1: not Lamar jacks Well, I don't necessarily buy that r

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Speaker 1: G three is this would be the starter Sunday. I

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Speaker 1: first of all, I would kind of expect they would

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Speaker 1: both be out there if r G three played, and

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Speaker 1: we don't. We don't know right now. It's it's competing reporting.

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Speaker 1: If I would just say, you, rookie quarterbacks playing all

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Speaker 1: over the league, that's why, what's why not put Lamar

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Speaker 1: Jackson in there here in late November and give him

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Speaker 1: a shot. He's had plenty of weeks of practice in preparations.

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Speaker 1: You're trying for a playoff run, right, If he's not

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Speaker 1: ready to run the offense, which is a lot different

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Speaker 1: than taking a trick play every so I would say, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I would say his last time we saw RG three

538
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Speaker 1: play a major role on the team, he was nothing special.

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Speaker 1: It's not like they somebody saw both of these quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: playing in the preseason. R G three was much better

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Speaker 1: than Lamar Jackson, who didn't look like he could run

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Speaker 1: the Ravens offense. It's it's fascinating, right, I mean, you

543
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Speaker 1: either can run the offense or you can't. It's also

544
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Speaker 1: been too it's been two months, so we don't know,

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Speaker 1: we don't know what's different. It is a fascinating moment though,

546
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Speaker 1: for John Harbaugh and just this raven staff, because you

547
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Speaker 1: really do feel like if they don't make the playoffs,

548
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Speaker 1: he's probably gone. And and he's keeping a good attitude.

549
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,680
Speaker 1: He did the whole like, uh, animal house. You know,

550
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Speaker 1: was it over when Germans bomb Pearl Harbor bit at

551
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Speaker 1: his John press conference this week? And you know, so

552
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 1: he's keeping a light tone, but it's it's big. It's

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Speaker 1: ten times. Uh. Mike Francesca used to call that whistling

554
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Speaker 1: past the Graveyard. I believe that was a song. There's

555
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Speaker 1: maybe it's just the Patriots fan in me. But there

556
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Speaker 1: is something about the Ravens that I I sort of

557
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 1: expect they will find a way that it's not over

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Speaker 1: for them, and they they're gonna they're gonna be in

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Speaker 1: the mix. It'll be over in weeks seventeen or maybe

560
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Speaker 1: it'll be over soon enough. Are they one of the

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Speaker 1: teams on I mean, we had that conversation about the

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Speaker 1: Ravens every year. I if I had to pick who

563
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Speaker 1: gets that sixth seed, I think it's either. I think

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Speaker 1: it's either it's one of those AFC South teams or

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Speaker 1: it's the Ravens. Those are the favorite. If was if

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Speaker 1: what you're saying, which makes sense and you're basing it

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Speaker 1: on where we when we saw these guys in action,

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Speaker 1: Um that r G three is the better option. That

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Speaker 1: makes sense. But if you're John Harborne, you kind of

570
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Speaker 1: need a Hail Mary to say your job a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Is r G three the better solution? Or do you

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Speaker 1: throw this kid that's a fantastic talent in the fire

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Speaker 1: and see if he gets hot. Uh. I don't have

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Speaker 1: enough information to say if that makes sense, but just

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Speaker 1: logically you would feel like for a team that's fading

576
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Speaker 1: inject some energy and youth and Steve Crazy, who would

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Speaker 1: scare you more if you were an imposing defense having

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Speaker 1: to prepare. I thank RG three. I just think there's

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Speaker 1: a difference between running trick plays and running an offense.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know which one of these guys is

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Speaker 1: more ready. But what the Ravens all, everything the Ravens

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Speaker 1: have given us suggests to me that RG three would

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Speaker 1: be the guy. That's what's happening in the news. Okay,

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Speaker 1: before we get to the t NF preview. Uh, this

585
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Speaker 1: is something that came up. We were watching Sunday Night Football.

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Speaker 1: Just to pull back the curtain. We record the bulk

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Speaker 1: of our Sunday Night show h leading in as the

588
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Speaker 1: Sunday Night game kicks off. We usually finish the hour long,

589
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Speaker 1: hour long taping around halftime, and then we we stay

590
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Speaker 1: in the studio together and we watched the re of

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Speaker 1: Sunday Night Football, and we use that time not only

592
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Speaker 1: to watch the games and converse and and greg to

593
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 1: four guys hanging out. You like, yeah, you don't need that.

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Speaker 1: Trivia's trivial, that's what you're saying. Uh. We also sometimes

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Speaker 1: we'll talk about plans for the show, and and Mark

596
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 1: was getting fired up about the Packers. I believe what

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Speaker 1: was the game we were watching. I'm trying to remember

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Speaker 1: the context of how we got into it. What was

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Speaker 1: the sing Eagles Cowboys? Okay, but anyway, the Packers came

600
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Speaker 1: up with the Rams came up, and there there's certain

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Speaker 1: teams that really Mark hates. They're honest radar and and

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Speaker 1: that's what we're gonna talk about. These are teams that

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Speaker 1: are in the mix, that are getting coverage, that are

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Speaker 1: in the playoff fight, but Mark don't like them. So

605
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 1: let's get going, Mark, what do you got? The Packers

606
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 1: are the obvious starting point because I feel like the

607
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 1: three of you adore the Packers and you have your

608
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Speaker 1: own reasons and you can we can next time do

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Speaker 1: the segment on why you love this team so much?

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Speaker 1: I and and this segment. It's probably happening in this segment.

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00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 1: I just it's this year especially. I don't understand why

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00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,959
Speaker 1: Packers teams, no matter what happens to them, they are

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Speaker 1: viewed as like, just send the train ticket straight to

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Speaker 1: the NFC title game. Well, I'm not buying it. This

615
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 1: year your four four and one, you're one three and

616
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 1: one against winning teams. You can't win on the road,

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00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 1: and everyone's just waiting for Aaron Rodgers to save the

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00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 1: day with a bunch of half milk toast parts around him.

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Speaker 1: I'm not buying it. The Packers to me do this

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00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 1: every year. You have not won of Super Bowl since

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Speaker 1: two thousand and ten, and I do not need to

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00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 1: to be part of this fantasy to just assumes they're

623
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Speaker 1: going to topple all these better teams in the NFC.

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Speaker 1: But you don't like them when they're good too. Whether

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00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 1: they're good or bad, you don't like them. I also

626
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 1: think that it's a fan base that's had excellent quarterback

627
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 1: play for decades, and it's I don't know, there's something

628
00:31:55,440 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 1: about the whole thing. But we let Mark explain why

629
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 1: he's angry angry about the team. Then we step in

630
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Speaker 1: and we try to diagnose what really is the root

631
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 1: cause of this. And I think you're hitting at it here.

632
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: The back to back five Rodgers thing has always annoyed

633
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 1: stuck in your crawl. It's just the whole experience that like,

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00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 1: I love Aaron Rodgers, he's a great player, it's not

635
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 1: there's nothing about There's there's nothing about that I'm not

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00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: critiquing this play. It's just this is just this. Have

637
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Speaker 1: you ever like when you were in school and every

638
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: guy in class like the same girl, and you're just like, no,

639
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: I'm not buying this one. Like I do not need

640
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 1: to be a huge Aaron Rodgers fan the way that

641
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 1: other people are. I just don't find this team. I

642
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 1: don't need this team on prime time as much as

643
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: they are. I am an outlier here. They annoy me

644
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 1: for some reason, and I am self trying to self

645
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 1: diagnose it half the time myself. I just don't buy

646
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 1: the strongman NFC title game argument, Like, are we not

647
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 1: supposed to cover any team unless they can make a

648
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 1: title game? We've seen with this team whenever Aaron Rodgers

649
00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: is healthy, they go to the playoffs, whether it's re

650
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 1: lax or run the table. And this team is no

651
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 1: worse than those teams. I think they're being to relax

652
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 1: all their way to eight seven and one of you.

653
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 1: The other thing, they lose in the playoffs when they should,

654
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 1: and also they go in with these stacked teams. I

655
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 1: think this started for me when they had that fifteen

656
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 1: in one campaign and got taken out by the Giants.

657
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 1: Go handle your business right, it happened. They they've had

658
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 1: at Patriots don't stumble in big spots in general. That's

659
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 1: not They've had an ornament amount of bad playoff losses,

660
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 1: but in their best seasons where they finished off the best,

661
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 1: they look terrible around week ten. So I don't I

662
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,479
Speaker 1: don't know if we can tell anything right now. There

663
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,239
Speaker 1: is an argument to me. And I don't even think

664
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,719
Speaker 1: of the Packers as like one of my five favorite

665
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 1: teams if I'm making a list. It's just that like

666
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is, you know, maybe the best player I've

667
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 1: ever seen and want. Maybe it's up there with the

668
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 1: most fun players I've ever got to watch. So I

669
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 1: like to watch them the most captivating, right So I

670
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 1: so I like them, And so yeah, I do root

671
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 1: from a little know how you always said West you

672
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 1: needed your women to have faults and flaws. He's too

673
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 1: perfect for me, Like I'd rather see him go through

674
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 1: some stuff. And it's just like I don't know he

675
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 1: has He's went through a lot. He's going through a lot.

676
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 1: There's an argument that I don't cry for me, argentity.

677
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 1: I was thinking while while the Packers were struggling with

678
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 1: the Dolphins for a little bit watching that game. There

679
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 1: is an argument to be made that non Packers fans

680
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 1: that are Rogers fans, which I would consider you meet

681
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 1: Dan and West, that we just like watching play There's

682
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 1: an argument to be made you should almost root against

683
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,479
Speaker 1: them this year to finally get the stink of McCarthy off,

684
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 1: because I'm just I want to see I've been saying

685
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 1: this for a few years. I want to see him

686
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 1: with another coach and only missing the playoffs my accomplish.

687
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:42,359
Speaker 1: They went halfway with dom Capers. My um. My final

688
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 1: thought is that if I had to make a list

689
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 1: of the top ten top twenty games in the last decade,

690
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,280
Speaker 1: whether it was a win or loss for the Packers,

691
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 1: they're probably on that list more than any other team. Yes,

692
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 1: I'm not saying this is my part, all right? Who

693
00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:00,839
Speaker 1: else you got? Oh? The Rams? Okay? Oh my god?

694
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 1: Look it are they good? Yes? They are good, They're great.

695
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 1: They're gonna go right to the super Bowl. But I

696
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 1: for me, it reminds me when I was young and

697
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 1: at you live on the East Coast and the only

698
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 1: game you get at the four pm slot was that

699
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 1: Joe Montana or Steve Young Niners beating teams up forty

700
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 1: five to twenty every week, and so the Rams are

701
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 1: now the same thing every single week. Todd Gurley a

702
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,919
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty yards and two touchdowns. Oh, Jared Goff,

703
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 1: you threw for three touchdowns and zero interceptions. Again you

704
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 1: win twelve games, thirty eight to twenty four. I mean,

705
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 1: I telling you something. Are they good? Are they? Are

706
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 1: they equality team? Yes? But of course here because we

707
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: live in l A and an NFL network is super

708
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 1: cozied up to the Rams, We're gonna be working inside

709
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 1: their building a couple of years. We have to sit

710
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 1: here and lavish them with NonStop attention and love. And

711
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,720
Speaker 1: I like going to their games too and all this stuff.

712
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 1: But how about go through some adversity before I buy

713
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 1: a second of this? This is I want to see

714
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 1: a team go through some some downs. And every Rams

715
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 1: game is the same. I've covered like twelve of them

716
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:07,399
Speaker 1: for the sight. This counterpoint, the last six Rams games,

717
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 1: five lost, that was tied, thirty five and the fourth

718
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 1: quarter and thirty one wins. Right, let me ask you,

719
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 1: is actually the opposite of them. It's like, why can't

720
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 1: the Rams win by more than one score? Is what

721
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:26,840
Speaker 1: most people are at. How many Rams games have you

722
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 1: sat there and you're shivering, thinking they're gonna lose They

723
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,879
Speaker 1: if anything could pour on another ten or fourteen points

724
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: and they could have lost either of them. They that's

725
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 1: There's one game like that, which was the Broncos. They

726
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:39,919
Speaker 1: could have lost either of the Seahawks games. They could

727
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: have lost the Packers. They happen to win them. The

728
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 1: Vikings game we went to is a good example. The

729
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,840
Speaker 1: Vikings hung around. There was not a single second that

730
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 1: night when I thought, oh, Minnesota's gonna win this thing.

731
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,320
Speaker 1: Not at all. It's like their defense has some issues.

732
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 1: Like a ton of defenses in the NFL. The Rams

733
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 1: are constantly up here and then they're giving up a

734
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,399
Speaker 1: little bit here, a little bit less, and they win

735
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 1: these games by they look looser than they are. The

736
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 1: scores they've all been down in the last possession. I

737
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 1: agree with some of what you're saying, and I remember

738
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 1: growing up having the same feeling about those Juggernaut forty niners.

739
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 1: Teams got boring after a while. But but nobody in

740
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 1: this podcast studio was cozying up to the Rams just

741
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 1: because they're in l a right. It's because he took

742
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 1: over Jeff Fisher, the worst offense in NFL history according

743
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 1: to Football Outsiders, and then had the best one in

744
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 1: one year. And he's doing things like that. We haven't

745
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 1: quite seen Sean McVeigh that is, and it's exciting to

746
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 1: watch like a team do it in a different way.

747
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 1: For a team to turn Robert Woods into an afterthought

748
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 1: into one of the best receivers. They play an entertaining

749
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 1: brand of football? Why not like that? I gotta get

750
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 1: annoyed when teams are good for too long. The Patriots

751
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 1: the utmost obvious example, the Warriors in the NBA, and

752
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 1: other example maybe the Rams. They've literally won no playoff

753
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 1: games with this with the Rams become that team down

754
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:56,439
Speaker 1: the line in a couple of years. But I see

755
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 1: where you're coming from, Mark, I just don't know if

756
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 1: they're there yet where you could kind of eight on

757
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,760
Speaker 1: them for being too good because they really haven't accomplished anything.

758
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 1: I want to die. Can I doctor that act? Oh yeah,

759
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 1: I feel like there's probably a few doors. Yeah. My

760
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 1: uncle he's Dr Milner, but you know, uh, he's a psychotherapist.

761
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 1: So I think a lot of it stems from the

762
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 1: NFL networks impending move down to Inglewood and even some

763
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 1: of the relationship between the network and when the Rams

764
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 1: first moved here. Uh, that really bore out on NFL Network,

765
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 1: where we covered it quite a bit because it's in

766
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 1: our in our backyard, and it's a big deal for

767
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:43,280
Speaker 1: the NFL, and there's something about that that really grinds.

768
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: It does and again that is that is absolutely it,

769
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 1: and there's something else happening. I can walk to NFL

770
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,879
Speaker 1: Network in eight minutes from my house. And now now

771
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: it's like I have to uproot. That's I have to

772
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: uproot the entire family, or are like, I don't even

773
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 1: own a car right now, I had to go buy

774
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 1: a car. Now I had to go buy a car

775
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 1: and drive twenty eight minutes through ridiculous l A traffic

776
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 1: fair to some gigantic right I it's that's that's the

777
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 1: by car, and that is twelve minutes more than it's

778
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 1: taking me to get up and leisurely walk. You can

779
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 1: put a book bag on and take a bird. It's

780
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 1: just the development I did not need. All right, that

781
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 1: was diagnosed well, all right, I wish we got straight

782
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 1: to that, But that's not how psychotherapy takes. Time. Another one.

783
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:38,800
Speaker 1: The last one is the Panther, and the Panthers to me,

784
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 1: all right, look, they represent a bunch of teams. And

785
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 1: this is when Greg and I get into it too often,

786
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 1: I know, But the Panthers to me, were totally and

787
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 1: utterly exposed last Thursday night. And here it is. This

788
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,720
Speaker 1: team that we bandy about is a Super Bowl spoiler.

789
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 1: It's just a slow, steady march to failure. We're gonna

790
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 1: sit here and deal with them for the next six weeks.

791
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 1: Are gonna go on the road in the playoffs and

792
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 1: get totally whacked. I guarantee it. I guarantee they will

793
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 1: not achieve anything beyond the playoff loss. And we're just

794
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 1: sitting here and waiting for it to happen. It's a Now,

795
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 1: there's sixty days of dealing with this team. There's a

796
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 1: bunch of teams like this, and it gets me highly annoyed.

797
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 1: We want to go straight to the diagnosis. Yeah, le'

798
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 1: let's hear the diagnosis from doctor. Are all right? When

799
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 1: when the Steelers, especially are playing in a big primetime game.

800
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 1: You could maybe throw the Ravens, but especially the Steelers

801
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 1: in a big primetime game. Mark wants that opponent to

802
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 1: show up. He thinks he's seen it too many times

803
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 1: over the years, the same story as the season moves along,

804
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 1: that the Steelers end up starting rolling and it's another

805
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 1: a f C North nightmare. And so when the when

806
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 1: the Panthers showed up on Thursday night and didn't really

807
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: show up, that hurt you. And now the other fury

808
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 1: like the Sessler's score. The other thing was that I

809
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 1: had to sit in this office and watch that half

810
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 1: of it because we had to come up here for

811
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 1: ninety eight seconds to recap the game, which I could

812
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 1: do from my house on the phone. If I wanted

813
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,839
Speaker 1: to imagine doing it next year from Minglewood, you're gonna

814
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,399
Speaker 1: have to. I mean, I would see I was part

815
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 1: of I was part of this. So you why weren't

816
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 1: you able to watch it at the house. There was

817
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 1: something going at the house, wasn't there. It's there's yeah,

818
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 1: it's like it's not easy to It's fun to watch

819
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 1: games if I don't have to, really, if I can

820
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 1: kind of like let them go with my kids, I'm

821
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 1: really start to enjoy that. Actually, but that night we

822
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 1: got to focus and take notes and stuff. It's like,

823
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 1: so you gotta clear out. It's the sun's down, you

824
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: already put in a day of work, you're in the office,

825
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 1: and now you're sitting at your cubicle alone while everyone

826
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 1: else in your mind you're thinking, this is my Friday

827
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 1: night because that's where our schedule breaks. Eric is up

828
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 1: in West Hollywood like in her fourth martini, and I'm

829
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: sitting here watching the Panthers not show up on Thursday

830
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 1: night football, and you're sitting at your cubicle and you're

831
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 1: watching this game slip away and just want to get

832
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 1: games just a waste of time for me. It was

833
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 1: mad that you your Friday night essentially is being impacted

834
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 1: that may so I wanted to be clear in in

835
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 1: the parlance of our social media times, the Steelers have

836
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:15,720
Speaker 1: been sunning the Browns and Bengals for forty five freaking years,

837
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 1: and you want somebody to knock them off. So to

838
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 1: be clear, though, you said you gart because the Panthers

839
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 1: fans are a vindictive bunch, and you guaranteed a play

840
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 1: play it only has anything in the playoff last did

841
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:32,839
Speaker 1: you mean like they won't even win a playoff game.

842
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 1: It's an immediate playoff loss. What I'm guaranteeing is that

843
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 1: they are. They're going to hit January and be an

844
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,760
Speaker 1: ultra non factor when we look back on what ultimately

845
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 1: happened in the playoffs. The Panthers are like last season

846
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 1: where they went out in the first round, not meekly.

847
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 1: But I think they're better than last year. I don't know.

848
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 1: I think they have a shot. I think they're better

849
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 1: teams in the NFC than last ye think they have

850
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:56,760
Speaker 1: a shot to make some noise. I don't better teams,

851
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 1: and then the Panthers could win a game, and then

852
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:00,800
Speaker 1: who knows what can I don't know, Okay, I don't know.

853
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I get your point. I don't know, uh

854
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 1: if I'm really allowed to say this, but I am

855
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 1: with most of the players and saying I do not

856
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:12,439
Speaker 1: like Thursday night football, especially don't like when there's really

857
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 1: good games like that should have been a good game

858
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 1: and Mark, you've made a point of it on Thursday,

859
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 1: that probably would have been a great game. Last week's game, Um,

860
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 1: it was a Panthers and Steelers. Steelers would have been

861
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 1: a great game on Sunday at on CBS or or Fox. Instead.

862
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 1: Sometimes these teams don't show up, especially the road teams

863
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 1: and That's why I don't even put a ton of

864
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,240
Speaker 1: stock into that game. Like, I don't think they were exposed.

865
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 1: I think they got they the ball started rolling on

866
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 1: THEIM gonna turn into a snowball, and I just I

867
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 1: just say screw it. That game's gone, and I bet

868
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 1: they make a deep run in the p I like

869
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 1: this team a lot. I I think like the Thursday

870
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 1: night thing had a huge impact. I don't think that

871
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 1: result ever would have occurred. That's on Sunday at one

872
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 1: o'clock in Pittsburgh. But but they were exposed, though, I

873
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,240
Speaker 1: don't just give them a free pass. That's two football

874
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 1: teams that played each other and they were exposed. Steelers

875
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 1: have housed their last five opponents. It hasn't always showed

876
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 1: up on the scoreboard, but they've just they've been the

877
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 1: best team in football the last five weeks. They've been

878
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 1: as good as the Chiefs in the rain. But I

879
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 1: really believe just for five weeks St. St. St. Saints

880
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 1: are in the least. But I'm saying the Steelers to me,

881
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 1: just for that five weeks stretch are in that in

882
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 1: that league, you play five straight opponents and you physically

883
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 1: dominate all five of them that that's hard. Let's see

884
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:26,320
Speaker 1: how Carolina does against New Orleans. Steelers are playing with

885
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 1: three downs, Saints are playing with four? You good, Mark,

886
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938
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Speaker 1: can't find any tennis courts, al right, we need that

939
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:46,319
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940
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 1: down at the l A TC. I mean there's like

941
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Speaker 1: there's like fifty free tennis courts everywhere you look. Yeah,

942
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:55,800
Speaker 1: but this is a community. Greg the Green Bay Packers

943
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 1: who we just spoke about, and a lot of pressure

944
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 1: on the Packers to prove Mark wrong four four and

945
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 1: one spank the Dolphins last week. But here's a challenge.

946
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 1: They're going to Seattle to face the Seahawks. Seahawks who

947
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 1: are playing for their season right now. West Let's just

948
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 1: keep it real. They've lost two in a row. Their

949
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 1: four and five in a loaded NFC four and six

950
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 1: means goodbye. They are playing for their season. This is

951
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 1: a team that Greg has said repeatedly he views as

952
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 1: a playoff team, and they can run on anyone. He

953
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 1: saw they ran for almost three hundred yards and a

954
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 1: loss to the Rams. I think they're gonna run on

955
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:35,359
Speaker 1: the Packers. Question is gonna Packers keep up with them?

956
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 1: I think they can because the Packers play a style

957
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 1: where they lean on their quarterback, and the Seahawks play

958
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 1: a style where they're trying to hide their great quarterback,

959
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:53,760
Speaker 1: where Russell Wilson is such a secondary player in this offense.

960
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 1: I think they've gone too far. They're they're too in love.

961
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 1: That with the fact they've run for a hundred and

962
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 1: fifty yards six straight games, which is wild, like the

963
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 1: Seahawks are basically the best running team in football right now.

964
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 1: Even when Chris Carson was out I mean just by

965
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 1: the numbers, but I don't think I think over time

966
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 1: and you saw it. I think in last week's game,

967
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 1: and I know they ended up keeping it close with

968
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:16,320
Speaker 1: the Rams. Russell Wilson had about fifty nine yards passing

969
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 1: going into the fourth quarter. I just think that's that

970
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 1: makes your margin for air on third downs very tough.

971
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 1: It's a tough place to play, but I would rather

972
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:29,360
Speaker 1: have the team where you're relying on your quarterback. And

973
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 1: I think that the Seahawks are are a little too

974
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 1: in love with this run run past when their defense

975
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 1: is just okay, it's good. It's not great, it's it's

976
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 1: a fine defense. I like it if it's if it

977
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:41,919
Speaker 1: operates the way the Cowboys did in years past, where

978
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 1: you're taking Green Bay off the field by controlling thirty

979
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:48,320
Speaker 1: five plus minutes of the game. I don't see Seattle

980
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 1: doing that effectively week after week. They are running well,

981
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 1: but it's like you're not gonna just be able to

982
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:55,320
Speaker 1: play keep away from the Packers. One of the reasons

983
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 1: the Chargers won is because they started selling out and

984
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 1: they paid no respect to the receivers whatsoever after the

985
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 1: first quarter and just sold out knowing it was gonna

986
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 1: be run the whole game. I think you have to

987
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 1: mix it up just for predictability sake. Last week I

988
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 1: thought the Packers maybe it was just because they were ahead,

989
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 1: but they hit on an offense that makes sense to me.

990
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 1: Aaron Jones getting of the snaps, Davante Adams getting quite

991
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 1: a bit of targets. Focus on your best players. Keep

992
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,239
Speaker 1: Jones on the field. I mean that guy, he kind

993
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 1: of defined shot out of a cannon. They we hear

994
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:29,399
Speaker 1: you hear shot out of a cannon a lot. When

995
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:30,880
Speaker 1: I hear shot out of a cannon. Right now, I

996
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 1: think Aaron Jones, well, hell to that ball when you

997
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:35,319
Speaker 1: come out of the cannon, though, helps and he's he's

998
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 1: facing lighter boxes in any running back in the league

999
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 1: earlier than am in. But I'm gonna lock it up

1000
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:46,800
Speaker 1: for the Packers. Another road team for Greg. I like it.

1001
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 1: You need this. It's goes home. I went home, and

1002
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna go. I'm home and I'm rooting. I

1003
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 1: found out that that I win a sandwich if if

1004
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 1: anyone but Mark, and so now I'm just rooting for

1005
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 1: west Or or Dan. I guess if Dan gets in

1006
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 1: the mix, I am in the mix and two games out.

1007
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 1: All right, fans in it well too, Yeah, I'm I

1008
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,840
Speaker 1: have the same record as Dance, so by technicality alone,

1009
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:14,280
Speaker 1: I'm also in it. Yeah, everyone's in the mix. Everyone.

1010
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 1: We just made that pick from his home. This feels

1011
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 1: like a juicy spot for a lock off, but I'm

1012
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:23,240
Speaker 1: not sure I can it is it is very tempting.

1013
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 1: Is this a Jimmy Graham revenge game? And there's no

1014
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 1: logic to it that the there's no logic. The Packers

1015
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 1: are banged up, it's a short week, they're missing two

1016
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 1: of the players in their secondary uh aren't traveling for

1017
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 1: this game. Nick Perry is not traveling for this game.

1018
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:39,719
Speaker 1: Why because he played He's struggling because Reggie Gilbert is

1019
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 1: a much better player than Nick Perry at this point

1020
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 1: in their careers. But I just I just have I

1021
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 1: just do believe that the Packers. It's just a gut

1022
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 1: feeling that they are gonna start magic on the road

1023
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:54,319
Speaker 1: in prime time. I don't think that's a I mean,

1024
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 1: let's it's also a must win game for them. You

1025
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:58,319
Speaker 1: can't go four or five and one in the NFC

1026
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:01,879
Speaker 1: right now. They they would have probably lost to play

1027
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:04,439
Speaker 1: with but I don't think you. I don't say they're

1028
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 1: definitely dead at four or five and not definitely dead,

1029
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:08,400
Speaker 1: but it's like, what are you What are you selling

1030
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:10,359
Speaker 1: us at that point? We've already been down this shrow,

1031
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 1: but your four or five and one? What are you

1032
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:13,320
Speaker 1: selling us? West? Yeah, you could be two and a

1033
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:16,920
Speaker 1: half back if the Vikings win that Sunday night. That's

1034
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:20,440
Speaker 1: a pretty big deficit. Um, Jimmy Graham, I may not

1035
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 1: win the sandwich prop that we have because I think

1036
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:24,440
Speaker 1: I set the yardage too low. But I stand by

1037
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 1: the fact that he's just not the same Well you

1038
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,280
Speaker 1: said it would be. He have to go under seven hundred,

1039
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 1: you got a shot at that. He's his pace is

1040
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 1: a little over seven. But I just don't think he's

1041
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 1: the same guy anymore. Greg nailed this one. Throughout the

1042
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:39,400
Speaker 1: off season. Aaron Rodgers is giving him so many chances

1043
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 1: to make plays and he hasn't made the plays. Yeah,

1044
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 1: one one last thing I wanted to mention that the

1045
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 1: just because sometimes you get really good players and then

1046
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 1: you just assume they're good and then they don't get

1047
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 1: mentioned for a while, Like Bobby Wagner is playing as

1048
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:55,879
Speaker 1: well as Bobby Wagner has ever played. I think he's

1049
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 1: the best middle linebacker in football. If you had to

1050
00:52:57,800 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 1: pick one, he would be the one I would pick.

1051
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 1: And he he's the number one reason why their defense

1052
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 1: has not fallen off too badly. Everybody wants to stick

1053
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 1: their claim to Bobby Wagner or Luke Keakley and then

1054
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 1: change their mind the next week. That's fine. I mean

1055
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 1: they're both, that's true. I guess whatever. They're both unbelievable

1056
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 1: but never misses a tackle. All right, there you go. Uh,

1057
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 1: let's pick this game. So Greg obviously has the Packers

1058
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 1: my NFC Super Bowl team. I'm so tempted to lock

1059
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 1: this up, but I just I don't know. It feels

1060
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:30,920
Speaker 1: too right now, it feels too a motion based and

1061
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Speaker 1: I always getting whacked on those. I'm gonna pick Seattle though.

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Speaker 1: To win, Packers America needs score thirty one. I had

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Speaker 1: thirty seven for the Packers late field goal with the dub.

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Speaker 1: All right, before we go real quick, let's send out

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Speaker 1: a mailbag prompts. Have some fun. In fact, let's use

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Speaker 1: a little eight o'clock to light the keep. Because Mike

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Speaker 1: McCarthy out the Packers missed the playoffs. Marcus Dilley asks, yes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he go, Yes, Craig will make sure of it. Eleanor

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Speaker 1: ied last year. They should have listened Eleanor West. That

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Speaker 1: Selman asked, why did you fork the fork? It was

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Speaker 1: honestly my favorite segment. I love the fork doesn't have

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Speaker 1: to be we we haven't ruled that officially it died.

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Speaker 1: It died a natural death. The better forks are kind

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Speaker 1: of starting around this time of year, so we could

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Speaker 1: still we could still talk about not only the fork,

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Speaker 1: but Dan's funeral dirges. Jesper Waalburgh has to ask, or

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Speaker 1: chooses to ask, Aaron Rodgers plays his career under Belichick?

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Speaker 1: How many Super Bowls do they win? More or less

1079
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Speaker 1: than Brady Belichick? All of them less, exactly the same amount?

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Speaker 1: Was that four or five? I don't even like I

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00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:48,279
Speaker 1: don't like this question. Tom Marshall asking for a friend

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Speaker 1: who was a Jets man. Are we seeing evidence of

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady and Decline wes, Yes, I don't. I actually

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Speaker 1: think it's inarguable he's I'm not saying this is the end.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's a liability. I'm not saying he's

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Speaker 1: past too. You know he is he's just declined. He's

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Speaker 1: he's not the best quarterback in football anymore. And I

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Speaker 1: think you see it in his mobility, his arms cranked,

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Speaker 1: his unwillingness to take a hit. He's he's had his

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Speaker 1: worst stretched since. You know. Then he bounced back. He's

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Speaker 1: made a career out of slaying dragons, and it wouldn't

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Speaker 1: surprise me to see him slay another one. Mark Rich asks,

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Speaker 1: if we don't really die at the end, then what well?

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Speaker 1: I mean? I I've thought that question my whole life.

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Speaker 1: I think you'd probably move on to like it's a

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Speaker 1: computer sim or something, and you wake up to like

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Speaker 1: a everyone that you were in life with. You're in

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Speaker 1: some room and everyone's kind of shaking hands. Christopher, I

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Speaker 1: don't have an answer to that one, saying for the day,

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Speaker 1: who delivered some amazing Baco shop yesterday, Thanks Chris, best

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Speaker 1: Thanksgiving side dish. I like mashed potatoes, man, I'd love

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Speaker 1: potatoes stuff. He says, you gotta get rid of that.

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Speaker 1: How about Chardonnay a communist? Now you just gotta get

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Speaker 1: rid of the turkey and have a real nuffing stuffing solid.

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Speaker 1: I go with mashed potatoes as well. I think you

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Speaker 1: could put some spices. It's up to the It's up

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Speaker 1: to the person cooking the turkey. If you just want

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Speaker 1: to go boring, throw it at the Avid. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be bored. What do you think, Erica spice it up?

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Speaker 1: Definitely mashed potatoes? Bang, Greg from Chad Wicked? Is Matt

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Speaker 1: Stafford good? Candy d ms are underrated? Yes, Matthew Stafford

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Speaker 1: is good. I define good as better than average. He's

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Speaker 1: better than average starting quarterback. Absolutely, He's probably about in

1114
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Speaker 1: that twelve to fifte Mark Corey German, as is Nathan Peterman.

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Speaker 1: Actually the worst quarterback of all time? No time now

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Speaker 1: he's he's in the conversation, but no recency bias West.

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Speaker 1: If we don't really die at the end, then what man,

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Speaker 1: I've struggled with that one. I have really struggled with that. Alright,

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Speaker 1: well what you think? It's okay not to know the answer?

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Speaker 1: To save it for the Theology podcast will be back

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Speaker 1: uh on what is Today? What's Happen? Wednesday? We're doing

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Speaker 1: another show tomorrow. Tomorrow is like the can we can

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Speaker 1: we get one week where we can stop talking endlessly

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Speaker 1: about it? Has taken me thirty nine years but I'm

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Speaker 1: finally sick of hearing myself talk. Ay. One thing, the

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Speaker 1: two thousand nineteen Pro Bowl Vote is here. Which NFL

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Speaker 1: players do you want to see at the twenty nineteen

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl in Lovely Orlando. Vote today at NFL dot

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Speaker 1: com slash Pro Bowl Vote and yes, check us out

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Speaker 1: Thursday night. That's when the show goes live late Thursday

1131
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Speaker 1: early Friday. You'll have a recap of Packer Seahawks and

1132
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Speaker 1: then previewing all the week eleven matchups to come. Fun

1133
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Speaker 1: football stuff. Let's go Seahawks, Putter and Michael Dixon. That's

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Speaker 1: who I want to see in the Pro Bowl. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I like Dan hands Is signing off for Quiet Storm

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Speaker 1: oh Man, the old bossy Hollywood behind the Glass, Behind

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Speaker 1: the Glass. Thursday,