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Speaker 6: hurry back to make it to talk to the Champ.

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Speaker 6: So if you're a fan of the Sweet Science like

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Speaker 6: I am, the term champ just can't be thrown around loosely.

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Speaker 6: There's only one champ at a time. There's a lot

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Speaker 6: of fighters, a lot of champions. Yeah, but there's only

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Speaker 6: one champ. Camp is the pounds a pound champ undisputed? Yes, correct,

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Speaker 6: So we have the champ Terrence crawd for in the building.

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Speaker 6: Bud just came off the biggest fight of the year,

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Speaker 6: very impressive fight. I knew you was gonna win, but

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Speaker 6: I didn't think that it was going to be in

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Speaker 6: that fashion shot the el Spence. But just I think

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Speaker 6: you want every single round except for the first one maybe.

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Speaker 6: And now you're undefeated forty and oh, I believe you

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Speaker 6: are pound for pound best fighter in the game.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 4: Uh. You have four.

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Speaker 6: Belts including the Rainbilt five belts, and you're just at

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Speaker 6: the top of the world right now. So we're gonna

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Speaker 6: talk about a variety of different things. But first and foremost,

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Speaker 6: thank you for joining us. Appreciate it, Appreciate you having me. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: for sure, for sure shamp No we interview Floyd, that's true,

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Speaker 6: but he's not. I mean, he's retired. This is the champ,

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying great, all time, great, active. I want

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Speaker 5: Of it, not just the biggest fight of the year,

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Speaker 5: the most dominant fight of the year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was crazy. I had it on pay per view.

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Speaker 3: It was that was like wow, it was just a

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Speaker 6: We definitely both picked you to win. So let's talk

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Speaker 6: about this. I want to talk were Gonn talk about

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Speaker 6: the business? Were going to talk about a variety different things,

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Speaker 6: but let's start with the obvious. You just came off

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Speaker 6: that fight. What's the mindset going into that fight? A

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Speaker 6: lot of people did not pick you to win, said

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Speaker 6: I ain't seen anybody disrespect you, but a lot of

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Speaker 6: but you want an extremely convention fashion. So what's the

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Speaker 6: mindset of you in training camp leading up to this fight,

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Speaker 6: knowing that that's going to be the biggest fight of

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Speaker 7: Well, my mindset is always win at all costs. Make

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Speaker 7: nobody else. A lot of people ask me, you know

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Speaker 7: just say, be myself. I always say that because I

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Speaker 3: So as I mean, first round, they didn't give to

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Speaker 5: Is that the turning point in your mind? Like, all right,

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Speaker 5: he hit me with something, this is all you has.

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Speaker 7: I don't really think he hit me with nothing telling

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Speaker 7: neither one of us really was doing too much in

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Speaker 6: So I always wondered this as a fighter, right, there

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Speaker 6: Like not only can you lose, but you can potentially

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Speaker 7: Well, everybody getting nervous. You know when these fighters say

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Speaker 7: I wouldn't say like it crossed your mind in training

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Speaker 7: you got to push it harder in training camp when

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Speaker 5: But in my head, I'm thinking to myself, are you

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Speaker 3: I've dominated this fight so much? Like who is my next?

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Speaker 5: Because I seen there was some talk from the ring

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Speaker 3: Right after that? Like I just put him down? Who's next?

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Speaker 7: My, my, my, mentor was just just what you're seeing.

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Speaker 7: I went straight to the next next champion in the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I see that. I'm like, first I'm like, who's

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Speaker 5: I'm like, all right, automatically, I've done this in your minds,

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Speaker 5: because originally he was supposed to fight Alvarez.

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Speaker 3: That kind of didn't work. So like he's fighting. I

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Speaker 3: thought it was his twin brothers. No, no, no, that's him.

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Speaker 3: Okay's fighting. So after he does that, that is that

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Speaker 6: So, but the rematch clause is up to spent if

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Speaker 6: don't see why he Wouldn't you think about what weight

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Speaker 6: you this. Some people say he was dehydrated and drained.

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Speaker 6: That's why it looked so lopsided because he came down

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Speaker 7: Well, you gotta understand my whole career people being giving

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Speaker 7: You know, a lot of people say, oh, man, you

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Speaker 7: Spence Junior, you will see that I always said, once

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Speaker 7: But once a fighter getting the ring with me and

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Speaker 7: this is the reason why you know he lost like that,

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Speaker 7: not giving me my credit and saying that he knocked

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Speaker 5: Him now that this fight was highly anticipated was something

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Speaker 5: to exercise the rematch clause. How did that business work out?

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Speaker 5: Where like, who's the A side, who's the B side?

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Speaker 5: I'm not the B side. How did that work between

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Speaker 7: It, Well, I really didn't care the A side or

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Speaker 7: Long as the business behind closed doors was right, then

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Speaker 7: we had to fight. You know, I didn't really care

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Speaker 7: if the poster said Spence Crawford Crawford Spence. At the

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Speaker 7: you know the business is right now, I'm cool with it.

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Speaker 6: So look, over the last five years, we've been seeing

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Speaker 6: that was a knock on boxing for a long time

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Speaker 6: that the fights that the public wanted to see were

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Speaker 6: not taking place. What do you credit that to? I

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Speaker 6: see you guys kind of thank each other for making

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Speaker 7: I credit the fighters, you know, I really believe me

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Speaker 7: and Spence was a big part of making this fight happen.

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Speaker 7: You know, if me and him wasn't wouldn't have gotten

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Speaker 6: So so that's an excuse when boxes say, like talk

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Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, God won't fight with me. A guy

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Speaker 4: And it happened plenty of times.

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Speaker 5: So as a competitor after the fight, does the business

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Speaker 3: Are you looking at that saying, all right, we hit

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Speaker 7: We were looking at everything, you know, at this point

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm thinking to myself, right, because I mean, that's

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Speaker 5: They're saying, oh, wait, well Tank for Garcia and that

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Speaker 5: But in your mind, was there a number that was

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Speaker 7: I wasn't too too worried about that because I knew

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Speaker 3: Be like, oh did you see that? Did you see that?

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Speaker 4: You know? It was yeah, it was it was It

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Speaker 7: And I don't feel like, you know, two grown men

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Speaker 7: And I believe that me and him prove that. Well,

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Speaker 7: what's your relationship with Bob Aron? I don't have no

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Speaker 6: The business model of boxing is like difficult for business

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 6: Is that something that you see more in your opinion

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Speaker 4: I would like it to happen.

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Speaker 7: But at the same time, you got to understand, you know,

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Speaker 7: at this level where you're gonna fight at. How you're

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Speaker 4: You know, if.

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Speaker 4: You stuck?

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Speaker 7: You stuck in the box where you got all this talent,

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Speaker 4: Do you think a boxing league can never be, can

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Speaker 7: Of course, if you know a lot of these old

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Speaker 3: Six hundred dollars as an amateur, that's what you will

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Speaker 5: People who knew about money. I had no idea about money,

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Speaker 7: Of course, So first, first and foremost, I surrounded myself

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Speaker 5: When you were going through the process of trying to

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Speaker 7: No, that was just something that I always wanted to do,

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Speaker 7: And I just always knew if I brought an event

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Speaker 7: I think it would be big.

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Speaker 4: They really too much didn't believe me.

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Speaker 7: Bob them said you win the title, we're gonna bring

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Speaker 7: it back to Omaha. So once I won, they wanted

442
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Speaker 7: to take it to Iowa where the casinos it's only

443
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Speaker 7: like what ten minutes away, five minutes away.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, no, I'm not fighting there.

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Speaker 7: I just had to stand my ground, like listen, it's

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Speaker 7: Omaha on nothing because ten thousand people, it's going to

447
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Speaker 7: be way more than that. And they was looking like,

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Speaker 7: all right, we're gonna see So once once the fight

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Speaker 7: got announced with me and Gambol and they seen them

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Speaker 7: agnitude and the support of the people that came out

451
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Speaker 7: the support me and cheer me on. They was like, man,

452
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Speaker 7: this is this is crazy, this is incredible. And I'm like,

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Speaker 7: I told you, well, you you are the illness.

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Speaker 3: That's a fact.

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Speaker 5: From Nebraska. Yeah, there's another two from Nebraska. If I'm

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Speaker 5: at the blow the business, the oracle of the Oracle

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Speaker 5: of Omaha. Yes, so I'm wondering, as you're sending in

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Speaker 5: your career boxing, is the oracle watching you?

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Speaker 3: And of course he is watching.

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Speaker 4: He likes boxing.

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Speaker 3: I know, what's the first time he reaches out.

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Speaker 4: Well, he never reached on you know.

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Speaker 7: He came to a couple of my fights in Omahall

464
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Speaker 7: came backstage, you know, showed support and love. Uh, weren't

465
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Speaker 7: always been cool. Like I sit down meet with him.

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Speaker 7: We're trying it up for hours.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 3: This is stuff that people pay million dollars to do.

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Speaker 3: That's a fact and big fact.

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Speaker 7: And we sitting here just chopping it up about whatever,

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Speaker 7: you know, And I'm just like, man, this dude, like

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Speaker 7: one of the most popular dudes on the planet down there,

473
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Speaker 7: and he's sitting here chopping it up with me. And

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Speaker 7: we take a picture and he's like, man, put me

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Speaker 7: in a headlock. I'm like, huh. I'm like, man, like,

476
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Speaker 7: put me in a headlock. I'm like, put me come here,

477
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Speaker 7: you know what i mean. Just joking around, you know.

478
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Speaker 7: And I was just like, man, this due real life chill.

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Speaker 7: And I didn't got the got the opportunity to sit

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Speaker 7: down with him, and you don't have conversation with him

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Speaker 7: multiple times, And I think that was real dope.

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Speaker 4: What's anything that you that you might have learned picked

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Speaker 4: up from him?

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Speaker 7: Oh man, just a little certain investments, But it was

485
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Speaker 7: stuff that I was already invested in, you know. I

486
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Speaker 7: was just like, you know, what, what do he think

487
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Speaker 7: about this? What do he think about that? And he

488
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Speaker 7: gave me his opinion, and his main thing was, you know,

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Speaker 7: get you a team that you can count on. His

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Speaker 7: main thing was having a strong team. And he stressed

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Speaker 7: that he wouldn't been able to accomplish all the things

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Speaker 7: that he done accomplished if it wasn't for his team,

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Speaker 7: you know.

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Speaker 4: And I was like, how can I be a part

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Speaker 4: of your team on their.

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean, Charlie, we can get this

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Speaker 3: thing going.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's cool though.

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Speaker 6: So I saw a post you talked about how you

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Speaker 6: spent your first million dollars? Can you talk about that

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Speaker 6: a little bit?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? We did.

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Speaker 7: We did the show, Uh how I spent my first

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Speaker 7: million dollars? And it was just that, you know, my

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Speaker 7: first million, most of it I spent on my family

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Speaker 7: and you know, trying to make sure everybody is it's

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Speaker 7: said cool.

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Speaker 4: You know I was. I was the type of person

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Speaker 4: that I really didn't care too much about shit.

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Speaker 3: For me.

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Speaker 7: I cared about my family, my sisters, my mom, my nieces,

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Speaker 7: my nephew, my kids. How they was. So I used

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Speaker 7: to always just save my money and they were like, man,

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Speaker 7: you can't take.

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Speaker 4: It with you.

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Speaker 3: And I'm like, yeah, you're right.

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Speaker 7: So I just started spending, spending, spending, and I'm like,

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Speaker 7: all right now, like I need to fight.

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Speaker 4: So then it got to a point where you know,

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Speaker 4: I got more you know, reasonable.

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Speaker 7: With my spins and stuff like that, and you know,

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Speaker 7: sisters houses, sisters cars, cousins cars, nephew cars. You know,

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Speaker 7: remodeled my mom whole house twice, you know, bought her car.

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Speaker 7: I bought my grandma car. Then I bought me a house,

525
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Speaker 7: you know, me a vehicle and stuff like that. So

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Speaker 7: I took care of everybody.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: One of the other things that was impressive, and again

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Speaker 5: it speaks to the character is that you started to

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Speaker 5: be in be academy for you know, people to create

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Speaker 5: in a gym for the youth of your hometown.

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Speaker 3: You said that you're independent.

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Speaker 5: Now from the standpoint of promoting boxing, are you looking

534
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Speaker 5: to want to create your own team of fighters?

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Speaker 3: And is that was that division when you created B

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Speaker 3: and B.

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Speaker 7: No, that definitely wasn't the vision. But we definitely got

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Speaker 7: our own team. It's called B and B Promotions. That's

539
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Speaker 7: where me and Bryan I'm TBC Promotions. That's a different entity.

540
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Speaker 7: But my thing was I got kicked out of the

541
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Speaker 7: gym that I once was at CW Youth Resource Center

542
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Speaker 7: because I wouldn't sign a contract to pay them every

543
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Speaker 7: month because I was turning pro and I was like,

544
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Speaker 7: nobody else was met with the contract. So I was like, man,

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Speaker 7: I'm not signing nothing, and uh, the owner just basically

546
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Speaker 7: said if you don't sign this, you out go.

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Speaker 4: And I was like, all right, I'm leaving. So basically

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Speaker 4: I just left.

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Speaker 7: And I just was like, man, I don't want that

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Speaker 7: to ever happen to another fighter again. You know, you're

551
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Speaker 7: forcing him to do something that you know is against

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Speaker 7: what he believed in.

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Speaker 4: And he's been there since he was seven years old.

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Speaker 7: So basically, y'all trying to, you know, get over on him,

555
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Speaker 7: you know, y'all trying to take advantage of him. And

556
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Speaker 7: we start going to a different gym, and me and

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Speaker 7: Bo came up with the idea of and.

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Speaker 4: Then let's just get our own, Jim, we.

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Speaker 7: Ain't got to go to nobody else gym, we don't

560
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Speaker 7: got to follow nobody else's rules. Let's get our own gym.

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Speaker 7: And at the time, I think it was twenty twelve,

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Speaker 7: we found the warehouse that was just full of old

563
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Speaker 7: storage stuff. We rented one side out. You know, we

564
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Speaker 7: didn't have nothing in it. We was just rented out,

565
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Speaker 7: but still using that gym, and like every time I fight,

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Speaker 7: we'll put a little bit in it. Put a little

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Speaker 7: couple of friends that was helping out. You know, my

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Speaker 7: boy Many, he was paying the rent. He was like,

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Speaker 7: you know what, y'all focus on box. I'm gonna pay

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Speaker 7: the rent for eight months that y'all ain't got to

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Speaker 7: worry about it. Then at that time, you know, we

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Speaker 7: just kept putting money in it. Then we got the ring.

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Speaker 7: Once we got it to where the bags and everything

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Speaker 7: I was like, I don't want them to have to

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Speaker 7: come in get a workout. They don't got a box.

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Speaker 7: They can just come for health health as well. They

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658
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Speaker 7: The other side, made it one big gym and half

659
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 7: the side that we once was on, we made it

660
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 7: a wrestling room.

661
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 4: So yeah, it's free for all the kids and everything.

662
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:35,760
Speaker 4: You still got ties to wrestling, definitely, so my kids wrestling.

663
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 6: Speaking of wrestling on the ww East side, right, this

664
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 6: goes back to boxing.

665
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 4: You a very male manned person.

666
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,839
Speaker 6: You said, like the last fight, you didn't have to

667
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 6: do a lot of like antics to try to promote

668
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 6: the fight. But the fighters that have always excelled have

669
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 6: always taken on all to egos. We seen Floyd, he said, like,

670
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 6: you know, when he was pretty boy Floyd, he was

671
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 6: a star when he was when he may whether that's

672
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 6: when he became the icon.

673
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 4: Muhammad Ali.

674
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 6: Everybody knows how loud and voiterous he was, even Mike Tyson,

675
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 6: Mike Tyson wasn't really that loud, but.

676
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 4: He just had a very special orga.

677
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 3: It was crazy. Yeah, he just had to take over.

678
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 3: I mean, you're right, Golden Boys change it.

679
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, so this is all right?

680
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 6: So do you ever think about that, like, all right,

681
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 6: maybe I should just do a little bit more add

682
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,800
Speaker 6: a little bit more flash or are you just comfortable

683
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:31,240
Speaker 6: just staying in your lane?

684
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,879
Speaker 7: Always being comfortable with standing in my line? I never

685
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 7: wanted to be like nobody else, you know what was

686
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:43,919
Speaker 7: meant for me I have. You know, if they couldn't

687
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 7: you know, respect me for being authentic in myself, then

688
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 7: it wasn't meant to be. You know, I never wanted

689
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 7: to put on a show for for ones entertainment. I'm

690
00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 7: entertaining in the ring now outside the you know, you're

691
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 7: paying for what I'm doing to these guys in the ring,

692
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 7: not for what I'm saying and hopping up and down

693
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 7: on the stage. You know, when you look at all

694
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 7: those guys that you just name, you know, look at

695
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 7: what comes with what they've done negativity. They got to

696
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 7: have all these security guards around them. They gotta you know,

697
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,879
Speaker 7: watch they back because so many people want to do

698
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 7: harmful things to them. Just because of their actions, and

699
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 7: not only that, now they start getting into it with

700
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,360
Speaker 7: people outside of the ring because.

701
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 4: Of their character, you know.

702
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 7: So yeah, I never want to be something that I'm

703
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 7: not because you know, what you see is what you get.

704
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:52,360
Speaker 5: You built the gym, I believe you said it was

705
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,879
Speaker 5: one hundred thousand inn. But even in that story when

706
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,800
Speaker 5: you spent your first million, the most important pieces that

707
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 5: you were buying with real estate, right is that something

708
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 5: and even the renovation part that's something that you know

709
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 5: that's hands on. How evolved are you in terms of

710
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,720
Speaker 5: the real estate portfolio, because I'm sure at this point

711
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:12,399
Speaker 5: it is growing. We just talked about, you know, you're

712
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,800
Speaker 5: doing a new build, how involved you in that process?

713
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 3: And you enjoy it?

714
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 4: Heavy? Heavy, you know what I mean. Like it's crazy.

715
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 7: I just closed on, you know, a housewipe before this fight,

716
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:30,800
Speaker 7: and I closed on, you know, a big old building,

717
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 7: you know, right in the middle of this. Like I

718
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 7: got probably like over forty houses in Nebraska. In Nebraska,

719
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 7: probably like six seven apartment complexes. You know, I got land,

720
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 7: I got you know, storefronts. So I'm heavy. I'm heavy

721
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 7: in the real estate.

722
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 6: Talk about the land. How lot A lot of people

723
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 6: are interested in real estate right now. But why is

724
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 6: important for you to own land? God ain't making no

725
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 6: more land, you know. So if you can buy some

726
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 6: land that's in in a great area and.

727
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 7: You can you can build on it, you can sell it,

728
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,320
Speaker 7: you can rent it, you can do multiple things with it,

729
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 7: you know, or you can just hold on to it

730
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 7: till you figure out what you're gonna do with it,

731
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 7: you know, because the world is constantly shifting, you know,

732
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 7: and it may it may shift from one area to

733
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 7: another area because that area is already you know, to

734
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 7: to flooded, so you know, you got to move elsewhere.

735
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 7: So you know, I got some some real valuable properties, you.

736
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 4: Know that I'm a build on and.

737
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, and it's gonna accumulate general wealth, generational wealth.

738
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 4: I would say, you know, you got a lot going on.

739
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 6: Do you have somebody like that it's like running those

740
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 6: day to day operations of your real estate portfolio.

741
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 4: Yeah.

742
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 7: Well, I'm a partner with my guy Mark and my

743
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 7: girl she handled all my homes and stuff like that.

744
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 7: And I got people that give me advice on you know,

745
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 7: things to buy that's that's hot, that's not even on the.

746
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 4: Market, you know, And whatnot.

747
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 7: So I got I got a lot of great opportunities

748
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 7: for you know, great business adventures.

749
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 3: When we think Omaha, we think Nebraska.

750
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 5: I wonder from a standpoint of real estate, is there

751
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 5: an agricultural play as well, because we know a lot

752
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,760
Speaker 5: of farm land, a lot of resources come from middle

753
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 5: of America. Are you looking at from that standpoint or

754
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 5: are you looking at it from a commercial standpoint where

755
00:40:56,560 --> 00:41:00,320
Speaker 5: I can bring additional businesses to add to the appreciation.

756
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 7: All you know, I got, like I said, I got,

757
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 7: I got twenty acres. You know that I'm building on

758
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 7: right now, you know, and I can I can do

759
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 7: all that there.

760
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 4: You know.

761
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 7: I can build a greenhouse out in the back of

762
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:19,800
Speaker 7: my yard. I can put some cows and stuff horses

763
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 7: in the back of my yard.

764
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 4: You know.

765
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 7: That's that's That's not anything that I can't do. I

766
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:31,479
Speaker 7: already have the store fronts and all that. So yeah,

767
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 7: like the sky's the limon. Let's talk about boxing.

768
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,879
Speaker 6: If you what all right, if you had to give

769
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 6: advice with some a young fighter coming up right, what path?

770
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 6: Because it's like I think your path you've signed with

771
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,320
Speaker 6: a promotional company and then you go independent. That's pretty

772
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 6: common with a lot of boxes, and then it's like

773
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:56,320
Speaker 6: do you just do one off deals? We saw Canelo

774
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 6: he did a major deal with the streaming service. I

775
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 6: don't know ever watching these fights though, but he's getting

776
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 6: paid regardless. There's different strategies, Like what do you think,

777
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 6: like one off deal's the streaming service way, the long

778
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 6: term partnership with a promoter, Like what do you think

779
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 6: is the best way to go about it?

780
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 7: Well, it's hard for you to say that because, like

781
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 7: I said, you know, what part and what part in

782
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 7: their career are we talking? Are we talking when you

783
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 7: first start, or when you become champion or when you.

784
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 6: Like as a champion, Like once you're established already, it's

785
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:35,319
Speaker 6: now you got leverage, right, You don't have leverage when

786
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 6: you first start. So I guess you have to go

787
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:37,320
Speaker 6: with a promoter.

788
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 4: It depends on It depends on how your name is.

789
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 7: Like I said that, that takes to where I was saying,

790
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 7: you can become a champion, but know, nobody really too

791
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 7: much care about who you are. You know, do you

792
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 7: got to name that's been marketed? Do you got a

793
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 7: name that's been pushed because some promoters they'll keep you

794
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 7: on this level where you need them on purpose, you

795
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 7: know what I mean. Yeah, they don't want you to

796
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 7: get to reach that. They don't want you to reach

797
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 7: too high. So you know what I mean, They ain't

798
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 7: gonna do certain things to push you to be this superstar,

799
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 7: because once you become a superstar.

800
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 4: You outgrow the belts, you outgrow in the promotional company.

801
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 7: Your name speaks for yourself, kind of like Floyd Mayweather,

802
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:27,280
Speaker 7: you know, Manny Pak y'all, Oscar delo Oya.

803
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,720
Speaker 4: You know, they can do anything in boxing.

804
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 7: When they was boxing and they didn't have to have

805
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 7: a title, they didn't have to be named champion. Those

806
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 7: sanctioned bodies wanted to be a part of them, like

807
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 7: Canelo right now, Canelo don't have to be a champion.

808
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 7: He's made a name for himself and he's earned the

809
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 7: right to do what he's doing right now, and that's

810
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 7: going to get a bag from here, going here, going here,

811
00:43:56,560 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 7: doing business with him, them them, because he's he's got

812
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 7: a name, and everybody know that if Canelo make a fight,

813
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,879
Speaker 7: then the people in Mexico is going to support them,

814
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,359
Speaker 7: the people in the United States is going to support them,

815
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 7: and it's going to be a big event.

816
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 5: When when you're I mean now as you're doing this

817
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 5: independently and for people who are not familiar with how

818
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 5: boxes make money, because that's why I rest up. They're

819
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 5: interesting that there was hedge funds that were willing to

820
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 5: put up the purse for you and dispense fight, which

821
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 5: is like, okay, it's a.

822
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 3: Lot of money. So like, how do our boxes getting

823
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 3: the money?

824
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 5: It's the purse, it's maybe percentage of the gate concessions.

825
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 3: How what are the streams of income?

826
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 7: It depends on, It depends, It depends on you know

827
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 7: what I mean. A fighter see in my case, you know,

828
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 7: I get it. I get a percentage of everything that

829
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 7: come in, everything, every penny that come in, I get

830
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 7: a percentage of it. You know, if you sign a guarantee,

831
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:01,359
Speaker 7: then that's all you you get. You know, one thing

832
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 7: about the heads fine that you know, I'm glad, I'm

833
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:10,400
Speaker 7: kind of glad that we didn't you know, sign that,

834
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:16,879
Speaker 7: given that we don't get paid until they make their

835
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 7: money back, you know what I mean. So once they

836
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 7: make their money back, then they get a percentage of

837
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 7: you know what I mean, everything that comes in. So

838
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:33,800
Speaker 7: it kind of take away from the fighters other towards

839
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 7: you know what I mean, us betting on ourselves. We're

840
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:40,760
Speaker 7: just like all right, whatever come in is gonna be us.

841
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 5: But like at this level that the marquee guys, like

842
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 5: the person is the guarantee money that they get win

843
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 5: or lose.

844
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 6: And then if you can, you could get more than

845
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 6: that if the pay per view numbers come back, right.

846
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 4: But you know what I mean, some people don't.

847
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:58,720
Speaker 7: Some people get like probably like eight percent nine percent

848
00:45:58,880 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 7: of a.

849
00:45:59,120 --> 00:45:59,919
Speaker 4: Pay per view fight.

850
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 7: They probably get like I was getting what six eight

851
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:07,400
Speaker 7: percent of the gate, you know what I mean? So

852
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 7: like I said, your promoter, he's getting all that.

853
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 3: So what I'm saying, you're getting six percent, then there's

854
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:16,959
Speaker 3: somebody that's in the ninety four percent.

855
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, I was getting six percent of the gate. I

856
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 7: was getting eight eight to six percent of the pay

857
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 7: per view shares after meet and meet, like a certain

858
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 7: number that it never never messy.

859
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 3: It's so crazy. Yeah.

860
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:39,800
Speaker 7: So that's what I mean by when I say boxing

861
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 7: is kind of shady, Well they ain't.

862
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:46,839
Speaker 6: Connoshated is so essentially all right, a kid sixteen years

863
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 6: old shows shows very promising career ahead of himself. I'm

864
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:52,839
Speaker 6: a promoter, right, I come in. I give the kid

865
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 6: five hundred thousand dollars. I signed him to an eight

866
00:46:55,920 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 6: year contract. Never huh never longer no never. You can't

867
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 6: sign nobody for a long five five all right, So

868
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 6: that standard. I signed for a five year contract as

869
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:13,720
Speaker 6: soon as he turns pro and I pay for his training,

870
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 6: I pay for a lot of the promotions, but I'm

871
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,839
Speaker 6: receiving the majority of the money I got it.

872
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 4: It's an investment for me because he might not even

873
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 4: work out.

874
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 6: But if he does work out, I'm gonna recoup all

875
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 6: of that money on the back end.

876
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 4: Times tand.

877
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:32,839
Speaker 6: So you really but it's really looking at it like

878
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 6: if I got ten fighters, nine of them probably not

879
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:38,320
Speaker 6: gonna work out. So the one fighter that does work out.

880
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 3: What you're gonna get.

881
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 7: But the thing is like this, you know you're not

882
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 7: gonna You know, you've been around boxing long enough.

883
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 4: So you can tell which one, you know what I mean?

884
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 7: Uh, what fighters bring to the table and what fighters

885
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 7: that you thought was gonna be something that they not,

886
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 7: because it's how you move them.

887
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 4: You know, you you you got all this money invested

888
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 4: in him.

889
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 7: You're not about to get him beat You're not about

890
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 7: to put him in there with some crazy opponent. So

891
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 7: you you constantly room in them step by step, and

892
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 7: if you don't see what you you know what I

893
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 7: mean you want to see in them, then you're gonna

894
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 7: throw them to the wools and you're gonna have your

895
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 7: other fighter knock him off and you still make money.

896
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 7: You're gonna make as much money as you can with him.

897
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 7: You know why, you got him to recoup the money

898
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 7: that you invested in him. And then you're gonna get

899
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:33,959
Speaker 7: him knocked off. And then after that, after you can't

900
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 7: use him, you're gonna you're gonna cut him just like that.

901
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,319
Speaker 7: You're gonna say, oh, termination, we don't want you no more.

902
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 7: And I find that kind of messed up as well.

903
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 7: You know that a promotional company can say they can

904
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 7: terminate your contract like this, you know, but you can't

905
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 7: terminate the promotional contract like all right, I don't want

906
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 7: you to promote me no more.

907
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, So it's always a one way stress.

908
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 5: It's a so like even like the networks, like when

909
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 5: Showtime does a fighter, the HBO does a fight, they're

910
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 5: inside of that ninety four percent as well.

911
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 3: Right, if you're making six percent.

912
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:09,319
Speaker 7: Of you got to understand like when these networks, when

913
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 7: these networks go to a promotional company, they give a

914
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 7: promotional company a budget and they say, okay, well here

915
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:22,800
Speaker 7: this is for you know, this fight these two guys

916
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:26,399
Speaker 7: to fight, you know, and you don't know about that.

917
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 7: It could be ten million dollars, it could be five

918
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 7: million dollars. You know, they give you a million, they

919
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 7: give you a million and a half, and they just

920
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 7: parket the reds because it ain't like you can say, oh,

921
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 7: well what they put put it on the table, or

922
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 7: sometimes you don't know.

923
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 5: In terms of sponsorships, we've seen some fighters have deals

924
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:50,359
Speaker 5: with athletic companies. I wonder how you approach that right

925
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 5: like I've seen I remember when Roy Jones at the

926
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 5: Joining brand that was like, ooh, this is crazy. You

927
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 5: got to join a sneaker and then you know, Floyd

928
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:57,840
Speaker 5: did a quick thing with Reebok.

929
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:01,320
Speaker 3: What's that like for you? In terms of athletic brands

930
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 3: and sponsorships when it comes to to your portfolio.

931
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 7: It's it's very tough nowadays because a lot of those

932
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 7: big Mrquie brands is UH going to other sports like football,

933
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 7: basketball and the other other sports. So when you look

934
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 7: at UH, the Jordan brand. Andre Ward was the last

935
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 7: one to have a Jordan brand, right right, you know

936
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 7: when you look at the under armor, Canelo was the

937
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 7: last one. I had an under armored brand. Reebok Floyd

938
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:36,320
Speaker 7: was the last one.

939
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 3: Nike. I think Nike did something with PA.

940
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 4: Nike did somewhere pack y'all, and that was it.

941
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was it.

942
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 4: You know.

943
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 7: So you will see a lot of people wearing Nike.

944
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 7: You'll see a lot of people wearing Adidas, and Adidas give.

945
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 4: A little money.

946
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 7: Ever last, give a little money, but not to the

947
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 7: to the level of you know what I mean, what

948
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:57,399
Speaker 7: they was doing back then.

949
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:00,880
Speaker 4: So there's been reports that some fighters, like we just

950
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 4: programmed program weren't paid in full after that bouts. Have

951
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:08,839
Speaker 4: that ever? Has that ever happened to you?

952
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,439
Speaker 7: No, I believe he got his money, but I don't.

953
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 7: I don't know nothing about that. I heard about it,

954
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 7: but I don't know.

955
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 6: You've never seen that though, Yeah, okay, like a fighter

956
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 6: actually forough and then still then' it's like that's like

957
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:22,799
Speaker 6: going to a club performing.

958
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:25,359
Speaker 7: Especially if you got to guarantee you supposed to get

959
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:26,800
Speaker 7: paid right after my Why.

960
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 5: Feel comfortable if I owed your money you gotta pay

961
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 5: a boxer.

962
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like, this is not it's not gonna end.

963
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:39,839
Speaker 4: Well yeah, definitely, definitely. Well let me can we talk

964
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 4: about black Prime? Yeah, let's go. So did you sign

965
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:46,319
Speaker 4: for ten million dollars for.

966
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 3: All allegedly allegedly?

967
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 6: So what happened? What happened with what happened with that situation?

968
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 6: Because that's not even is it still around or yeah,

969
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:57,800
Speaker 6: it's still around. They still doing fights and all that. Okay,

970
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 6: They reached out to me. They wanted to do business, and.

971
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:08,359
Speaker 7: They was looking for the opportunity to step in on

972
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:11,359
Speaker 7: a on a bigger platform because they was on low,

973
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 7: low platform. And they shot me a number and I

974
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 7: was just like, huh all right, you know, and uh

975
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:24,319
Speaker 7: at that time, I was in negotiations with Arrow last

976
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 7: year and the negotiations was going south. You know, we

977
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:34,840
Speaker 7: wasn't we wasn't really getting anything accomplished. We was just

978
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 7: going back and forth. But I wasn't talking with ear.

979
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 7: I was just talking with his handlers and stuff like that.

980
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 7: And I was just like, look, and this is what

981
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:48,760
Speaker 7: needs to be put on the table for me to fight.

982
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 7: And they basically was like, look, take it or leave it.

983
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 7: You ain't got nowhere else to go. So at that

984
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 7: point of time, I was just like, okay, all right,

985
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 7: see y'all in a minute, you know what I mean.

986
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 7: And I reached back out to be okay prime and

987
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 7: it was like, man, we with it. You know who

988
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 7: you want to fight? I'm like, I don't fight anybody.

989
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 7: So at the time, we picked the highest rating person

990
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 7: available and that was David Avenezian. He was ranked number

991
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 7: six in the division, you know. And we got the

992
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 7: fight done and I got paid, and you know, I

993
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 7: went back to the drawing board and went back to

994
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 7: the table and said, hey, look, you know, is we

995
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 7: gonna get this fight lined up?

996
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 4: Or is we gonna still keep waiting?

997
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 3: So the most important thing to you boxing is your career.

998
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 5: But the most important thing and it's evident every time

999
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 5: I watch the fights, I see that front row, I

1000
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 5: see that family and being a father. Talk about that

1001
00:53:56,760 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 5: inside of you know, the stringer was training of preparing

1002
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 5: for something that like a prize fight, because even after

1003
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 5: the fight, I know, you know, you're still about like

1004
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:08,400
Speaker 5: checking your kids schedule, like I gotta be at distract me,

1005
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:10,360
Speaker 5: So like talk about that for a little bit.

1006
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 7: Man, being a father is one of the greatest things

1007
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 7: that ever happened to me.

1008
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 4: You know.

1009
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 7: I always say being a father saved my life because

1010
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:24,359
Speaker 7: I was out on the streets getting shot, doing doing

1011
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:27,839
Speaker 7: the most, you know what I mean. And once I

1012
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:31,359
Speaker 7: had my first son, like that just changed my whole

1013
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 7: way of thinking, you know, uh, because I got to

1014
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 7: be here for him.

1015
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 4: I didn't want to.

1016
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 7: Be that selfish to be still doing the negative stuff

1017
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 7: that I was doing and end up in jail or day.

1018
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 7: And now you know, he's growing up without a father,

1019
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 7: and in this day and age.

1020
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 4: It wouldn't have been it wouldn't have been good for him,

1021
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:54,239
Speaker 4: you know.

1022
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:58,719
Speaker 7: So uh, yeah, I always strive to be there for

1023
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 7: my kids and every way, shape or form. Because my

1024
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 7: dad left when I was one years old. He was

1025
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 7: in the Navy, so he was always out to sea,

1026
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 7: he was always He lived in Virginia, so that's two

1027
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 7: different states, you know, and we didn't get to see

1028
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:22,400
Speaker 7: him as often. So yeah, like he wasn't there for nothing, really,

1029
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 7: you know. So I always told myself, I'm gonna be

1030
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:33,400
Speaker 7: there for everything my kids do, per days, holidays, everything

1031
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:37,319
Speaker 7: in that way, they don't never grow up and say

1032
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 7: dad wasn't there, or Dad didn't have time because the boxing,

1033
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:44,919
Speaker 7: or Dad this or Dad that. All they're going to say,

1034
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 7: Dad was there through through it all. Dad left training

1035
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 7: camp to go to our national wrestling matches. Dad left

1036
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:58,759
Speaker 7: training camp to go see us perform doing the national tracks,

1037
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:01,800
Speaker 7: like just all that stuff that means stuff to him.

1038
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 4: You know, I'm going to be there. So what's your walk?

1039
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:08,360
Speaker 4: What's your walking weight? Ship one forty seven?

1040
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 6: Why everybody asks me that? That's a common question you get.

1041
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:18,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, everybody want to know how so I'm skinny man.

1042
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 6: We talked about Trillo, but from a financial standpoint. This

1043
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 6: is why I asked you this question, because you might

1044
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:27,720
Speaker 6: have an advantage as far as the weight is concerned.

1045
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:30,319
Speaker 6: But the biggest fight that I think that could be

1046
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 6: made is Tank Davis on a catchweight situation. He I

1047
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 6: think he said that he felt confident that he would

1048
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 6: win that fight. So how you feel about that? How

1049
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:48,880
Speaker 6: you feel about that fight? Is it possible? Is it

1050
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:50,359
Speaker 6: even possible to catch weight?

1051
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 3: Now?

1052
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 7: Ain't no Catchway's no catchway? And you come up to

1053
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:59,760
Speaker 7: forty seven? Yeah, now entertaining and catchway?

1054
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 4: No, I'm not.

1055
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:04,839
Speaker 6: He's a champ though, too, undefeated and what cham He's

1056
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:10,239
Speaker 6: not champ. You don't have belts. Bet he's not even

1057
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:10,759
Speaker 6: a number one.

1058
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 4: Come on, man, tell me what bell you know boxing.

1059
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 3: I'm talking to a chim You forgot, you forgot.

1060
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 4: Devin Haney is under undisputed.

1061
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 3: They're still trying to get him a fight.

1062
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 4: Who undisputed? One thirty five? Devin Haney isn't. I want

1063
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 4: to ask you about Devin Hanes.

1064
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 7: Devin Haney got all the belts he did chance nobody

1065
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 7: else the chat.

1066
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:30,400
Speaker 4: But he's a bigger draw.

1067
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 7: Devon is the champ, but tanks the bigger draw. Oh yeah,

1068
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 7: definitely tank the bigger draw.

1069
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 4: So you're not you're not. You're not catching weight weight.

1070
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 4: It's weight classes for a reason. Levels level. Tell him,

1071
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 4: come on, I'm gonna come up here with the big boys.

1072
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 4: I'll welcome. I just got a few more just pure

1073
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 4: boxing questions.

1074
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 6: This is something that's always frustrated me speaking at Devin

1075
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 6: Haney and shot to him great champion, but a lot

1076
00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:00,080
Speaker 6: of people felt that he lost that last fight, including me.

1077
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:03,439
Speaker 6: I don't know, it's no I just think you lost.

1078
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 6: But I don't understand how boxing. You know how you

1079
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 6: watch the NBA, you know the score.

1080
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 4: You know that.

1081
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 6: Why can't boxing have each round the judges post this

1082
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 6: score so we know where we're at. No, because you

1083
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 6: might have you might not. You might think you're winning

1084
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:19,920
Speaker 6: and you're losing. You might think you're losing and you're winning.

1085
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 6: So in my brain, why don't you just have it

1086
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 6: each score each round and now the fans know who's

1087
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 6: winning and the boxes know who's winning as well.

1088
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:32,240
Speaker 4: They feel about that, that'd be crazy.

1089
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 7: Remind me of the amateurs when they was keeping score

1090
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 7: and letting us know round by round the score.

1091
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 4: But have you do like that idea? Yeah, it's cool.

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Speaker 3: I don't.

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00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 4: I don't.

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Speaker 7: I don't care about none of it, you know, to

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00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 7: be exact, cause I know I'm go in there and

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00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 7: do what I gotta do to make sure that I'm

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Speaker 7: winning decisively.

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Speaker 4: Not but like I think a lotle bitch, do you

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00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 4: think Lomach won that fight?

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Speaker 7: It was a good flight, It was a close it

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00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 7: was a close fight. Close, it was a close fight, Lomach.

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Speaker 5: I'm looking at that, but I'm thinking to myself, I

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00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 5: don't know if score cards mad to him. I feel

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00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 5: like you're going in there to knock somebody out. At

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00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 5: some point during the fight, there's going to be a

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00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 5: point and it's going to be decisive, and it's like

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00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 5: it's go time and there's another level you.

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Speaker 4: Can It's got to be frustrating and if you lose

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00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 4: a fight that you think you.

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Speaker 3: Want that I'm just saying for his like watching him.

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Speaker 4: It's the only sport that that can happen. That can't

1112
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 4: happen in basketball. It can't happen in tennis. You just win.

1113
00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 4: The person who has the most points win.

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00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 6: Boxing is left to a person making a judgment, and

1115
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:43,520
Speaker 6: that that could actually be corrupted.

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00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's definitely the bad and it's being bad and

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00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 7: you gotta do something about it. You know, you never

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00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:01,400
Speaker 7: you never seen a bad a bad judgment get or

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01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:05,439
Speaker 7: return either. I don't care how many times you watch

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Speaker 7: the fight and the whole world say this guy got robbed.

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01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 7: You never see they get overturned. So I think that

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01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:20,480
Speaker 7: that's something that needs to be fixed. I think there

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01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 7: should be certain qualifications to allow you to be a judge.

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Speaker 7: I think they should go through certain things that the

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01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:36,320
Speaker 7: fighters got to go through every every every time they

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01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 7: have the opportunity to rest or judge because they play

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01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 7: a big impact to these these fights where you know

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Speaker 7: these fighters is fighting their ass off and to get

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Speaker 7: it tooken away from the judges is heartbreaking.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and so well up times my brother.

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Speaker 5: One last question, I gotta I got a half of

1132
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Speaker 5: a statement because I want to know if my good

1133
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:08,840
Speaker 5: brother and our brother, after you looked at you in

1134
01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 5: your face and told you we're gonna lose, did Charlottage

1135
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:12,240
Speaker 5: reached out to you.

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Speaker 4: I'm going there in the more, but get back.

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Speaker 3: I want I want to see the look in the face.

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Speaker 4: All right.

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Speaker 6: My last question is who's your all time top five

1140
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:29,480
Speaker 6: pound for pound fighters?

1141
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:40,000
Speaker 4: Gotta be Roy Jones, Floyd Mayweather, Andre Wore, Sugar Ray Leonard,

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Speaker 4: Terrence Crawford.

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Speaker 3: Gotta be in the five. You got to be of course,

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01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 3: he was one of your favorites.

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Speaker 7: Easy, little Rose, I say that's your guy, listen.

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Speaker 3: I mean that's gonna be the Haney fight that should be.

1147
01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:58,120
Speaker 4: Then he's gonna be the next pound for pound number one.

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01:01:58,120 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 3: I can see how he's working with you.

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01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 4: He has that look, you know, he had that look

1150
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:05,600
Speaker 4: in his eyes after that AINI fight. That was interesting. Yeah.

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01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:10,000
Speaker 7: Man, he's so talented. Yeah, he's he's on a right path.

1152
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 7: Got his head clear. I don't see too many people

1153
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:16,720
Speaker 7: beating him. I see you know him and Devin, him

1154
01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:20,640
Speaker 7: and Tank being a great fight because they all three

1155
01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:23,360
Speaker 7: of them are talented, all three of them. You know,

1156
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:27,959
Speaker 7: I'm gonna be fighting for supremacy, but I just think

1157
01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:32,280
Speaker 7: boxing ability, his reflexes and this defense is gonna take

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Speaker 7: them to the next level.

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Speaker 6: Ope, my brother, appreciate you. Thank you for making the

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Speaker 6: fight happen and these fights happen. I think that you're

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Speaker 6: bringing the sport back a lot of other people as well.

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Speaker 6: But it's important because boxing has always been, you know,

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Speaker 6: one of these sports that doesn't get enough credit. And

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Speaker 6: I'm glad to see real boxes now like being champion.

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Speaker 6: So appreciate it, and yeah, continue to make history.

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Speaker 4: Appreciate it.

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Speaker 5: We will be at the next five front row guard

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Speaker 5: See love is love.

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