1
00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:12,000
Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to this episode. To keep it positive, sweety,

2
00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:14,760
Speaker 1: I'm Christaph n Aint Hazlet, and today I have my

3
00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:17,960
Speaker 1: good good friend at Chester Trade Rogers with me. We

4
00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,600
Speaker 1: are talking about all things, just all things life. How

5
00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:21,079
Speaker 1: are you doing.

6
00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:24,799
Speaker 2: I'm doing great, good, good. Thank you for you know,

7
00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:27,600
Speaker 2: blessing me with your platform. I just want to say,

8
00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:30,040
Speaker 2: I'm proud of you. Everything going so thank you.

9
00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:31,479
Speaker 1: I'm proud of you too. That's why I wanted you

10
00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:33,120
Speaker 1: on the sofa, had to get to you on the

11
00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:35,160
Speaker 1: couch so we can really talk about everything, because people

12
00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:37,680
Speaker 1: need to know your story. I feel like they really do.

13
00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:42,919
Speaker 1: It is time, you know. When I think about you,

14
00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:46,199
Speaker 1: I think about transitions, and since I've known you, it's

15
00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:48,959
Speaker 1: been a transitional period in your life. And I think

16
00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:52,480
Speaker 1: about the quote that says many speak of opportunities when

17
00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:56,040
Speaker 1: one door closes, another one opens, but rarely about the hallway,

18
00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:59,160
Speaker 1: the transition, the end between where you are and where

19
00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:02,080
Speaker 1: you're headed. The hallway doesn't have to be a scary, dark,

20
00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:05,440
Speaker 1: endless confusion. It can be a space of massive transformation,

21
00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,800
Speaker 1: great memories and peace. And that's where I feel like

22
00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:09,400
Speaker 1: you are right now.

23
00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:10,119
Speaker 2: That's a good one.

24
00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:15,320
Speaker 1: Absolutely yes, So, Trey, you are from Huntsville, Alabama. You

25
00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:20,320
Speaker 1: are an active an actor and an NFL player, entrepreneur

26
00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:23,280
Speaker 1: and investor. When I first met you, we were in

27
00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:27,280
Speaker 1: the gym. We had the same trainer, and you were

28
00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:29,319
Speaker 1: trying to think it's all season, but you are also

29
00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,200
Speaker 1: just kind of getting your feet wet back into the

30
00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:32,760
Speaker 1: acting world.

31
00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:35,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think we had just started filming season two

32
00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:36,600
Speaker 2: of BMF when I started at the gym.

33
00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:40,880
Speaker 1: Wow season that was season two. Oh my goodness. Okay,

34
00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:44,480
Speaker 1: so we're gonna take it back. You started acting as

35
00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:46,880
Speaker 1: a child, so tell us about that because a lot

36
00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:49,720
Speaker 1: of people know you as the NFL player, where they

37
00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:52,200
Speaker 1: don't know that you also was a childhood star.

38
00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:55,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I started back in two thousand and five.

39
00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,080
Speaker 2: I was around the age of ten when I first

40
00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,800
Speaker 2: got my first audition, which what's for the movie Constellation

41
00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:06,160
Speaker 2: directed by Jordan Walker Perman, when I played the young

42
00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:09,360
Speaker 2: Billy d Williams. So how that came about was I

43
00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:11,280
Speaker 2: was sitting at the dinner table with my family and

44
00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:13,960
Speaker 2: you know, we watching the news and it comes across

45
00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:16,680
Speaker 2: as an open car audition for this movie. Really, so

46
00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:18,880
Speaker 2: this wasn't nothing that I was preparing for it, right.

47
00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,120
Speaker 2: I was just always, you know, like the life of

48
00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:24,320
Speaker 2: the party, the class clown, and I saw the opportunity

49
00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:25,920
Speaker 2: and we laughed about it, and my parents was like,

50
00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:27,799
Speaker 2: you want to do it? I was like, let's do it.

51
00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:30,440
Speaker 2: And the thing was I had had a basketball game

52
00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:32,520
Speaker 2: that same day, but I was like, no, let's let's

53
00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:34,520
Speaker 2: you know, let's go to it. Let's try My parents

54
00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:36,560
Speaker 2: I don't think they thought I was serious about it.

55
00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:38,919
Speaker 2: I was up at like seven o'clock, like we're doing

56
00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,960
Speaker 2: it or not. So we go down to the audition

57
00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:44,520
Speaker 2: and there's hundreds and hundreds of kids. I didn't think

58
00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:47,200
Speaker 2: it was gonna be that it. I get in there

59
00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:49,200
Speaker 2: and I and I knock it out and ended up

60
00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,079
Speaker 2: blading my uh my first role. And I go from

61
00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:54,520
Speaker 2: this kid in what third or fourth grade? And my

62
00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:56,959
Speaker 2: life changed over night. I'm in the backseat of the

63
00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,919
Speaker 2: car with Gabrielle Union's and Billy D. Williams, like, you know.

64
00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,600
Speaker 1: Wow, what did that feel like you were ten years old?

65
00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:10,240
Speaker 1: Billy Let's first of all, Billy D. Williams and gab

66
00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:10,960
Speaker 1: Union Wow.

67
00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,400
Speaker 2: So you know I heard about Billy D. You know,

68
00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:20,280
Speaker 2: from all my aunties and wars and everything. So when

69
00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:22,480
Speaker 2: I landed that role, it was just major, but I

70
00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:25,079
Speaker 2: didn't know the magnitude that had behind it and where

71
00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:27,040
Speaker 2: it would take me. And I think like after, you know,

72
00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:29,200
Speaker 2: I landed the role and they saw like the charisma

73
00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:31,120
Speaker 2: had just the talent that I had, just from the

74
00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:32,600
Speaker 2: small part that I had, they were like, you got

75
00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:35,280
Speaker 2: to move this kid out of LA. So from there,

76
00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:37,960
Speaker 2: me and my mom we picked up and moved out

77
00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:39,680
Speaker 2: to LA my dad and my brother that stayed in

78
00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:41,280
Speaker 2: Alabama because he was in high school.

79
00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:44,160
Speaker 1: So you know, wow, So I knew you were young then,

80
00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,000
Speaker 1: but like, what was that like being away from your

81
00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:46,840
Speaker 1: brother and your dad.

82
00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:49,840
Speaker 2: That was tough, but it just kind of shows, you know,

83
00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:52,640
Speaker 2: the commitment we had as a family, Like we go sacrifice,

84
00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:54,400
Speaker 2: so we got to do. My dad he had his

85
00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:56,880
Speaker 2: own barbershop, and again my brother was in school, and

86
00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,040
Speaker 2: you know, for my mom to you know, sacrifice being

87
00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,360
Speaker 2: away from her other son and her husband, yeah, you know,

88
00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:03,680
Speaker 2: I just got to, you know, just give her all

89
00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:06,440
Speaker 2: the praise and Gloyd because you know, she sacrificed the

90
00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:06,880
Speaker 2: life for me.

91
00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:10,720
Speaker 1: I love your mom. Shout out as Tammy, amazing mother,

92
00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:15,400
Speaker 1: just an amazing woman as well. And I want to

93
00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:18,800
Speaker 1: make note about how family oriented you guys are. Yes,

94
00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:22,480
Speaker 1: like you guys are the epitome of family and I

95
00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:27,160
Speaker 1: absolutely love it. So you move out to LA. You're

96
00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:31,360
Speaker 1: a kid trying to pursue this acting career. What was

97
00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:32,760
Speaker 1: that like at that age? Because I know once you

98
00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:34,839
Speaker 1: got in LA, that's a different world than Alabama.

99
00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:38,560
Speaker 2: Absolutely, coming from Huntsville, Alabama going to LA, it was

100
00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:42,520
Speaker 2: definitely a culture shock. But you know, I kind of

101
00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:45,240
Speaker 2: fit right there. You know, I can adjust in any environment.

102
00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:48,800
Speaker 2: I feel like that's one of my my things, you know,

103
00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:51,680
Speaker 2: just adapting. So just being out there in that in

104
00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:55,200
Speaker 2: that spotlight, just being around other celebrities, other kid actors.

105
00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,240
Speaker 2: I went to a school out there that was mainly

106
00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:59,919
Speaker 2: for kid actors. We all stayed in this one apartment complex,

107
00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,240
Speaker 2: all the Oakwood apartments, and we went to school right

108
00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:05,680
Speaker 2: down the street. So it wasn't too tough of a

109
00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:07,400
Speaker 2: you know, but you.

110
00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:11,680
Speaker 1: Know, now what opportunities came up with auditions came up.

111
00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:14,360
Speaker 1: I know there was some almost where you were supposed

112
00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:17,400
Speaker 1: to be certain characters, and I want to talk about

113
00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:20,640
Speaker 1: how that may have played an effect on your mental Yeah, so.

114
00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:22,960
Speaker 2: Out there while I was out there, I think I landed.

115
00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,960
Speaker 2: I landed quite a few roles. The next movie was

116
00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:32,000
Speaker 2: with Coople Good and JR. Dirty. I learned that I

117
00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:34,040
Speaker 2: landed the TV show on NBC. It ended up not

118
00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,680
Speaker 2: getting picked up. We shot the pilot and I learned

119
00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:38,960
Speaker 2: a few things. And the last thing that I landed

120
00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:42,880
Speaker 2: was the The Is Stanley Reunion Tyler period yep man,

121
00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:46,559
Speaker 2: thank you TP. But and then from there the next

122
00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:48,599
Speaker 2: role that I almost got that you're talking about was

123
00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:52,560
Speaker 2: Everybody Hates Chris. Yeah, I was auditioning for the roller

124
00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:56,320
Speaker 2: Chris and I was right there. Yeah, to the point

125
00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:58,960
Speaker 2: where we pretty much signed a contract. You know how

126
00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:02,479
Speaker 2: they do cast if it don't look right. And you

127
00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:05,240
Speaker 2: know that was a tough That was a tough blow, Yeah,

128
00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:08,160
Speaker 2: for sure, because I really thought I had it. But

129
00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:10,160
Speaker 2: as a kid, you know, I just I got used

130
00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:12,159
Speaker 2: to you know nose. Yeah, get a lot of nose

131
00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:14,920
Speaker 2: in this industry. So I just kept going. And then

132
00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:18,200
Speaker 2: from there, the next rod was for House of Pain.

133
00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:22,120
Speaker 2: So yes, I wanna say, Ruben Cannon and Tyler you

134
00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:24,480
Speaker 2: know they had to that was his first show.

135
00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:28,680
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, yess dell Yes, filming in Atlanta and they

136
00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:30,240
Speaker 1: called me down there like, hey, we got this road

137
00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:30,520
Speaker 1: for you.

138
00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:32,920
Speaker 2: Come audition for it. And it was the same kind

139
00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:36,880
Speaker 2: of exact way with everybody hates Chris. I thought we

140
00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:39,840
Speaker 2: was setting up our apartment and everything here and it

141
00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:40,640
Speaker 2: got recasted.

142
00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,240
Speaker 1: My goodness, So what was that like as a kid,

143
00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:45,000
Speaker 1: cause I know that was the first blow was everybody

144
00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,480
Speaker 1: hates Chris. And then you get to Atlanta thinking Okay,

145
00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:50,240
Speaker 1: I got this one, and then it's like stripped away

146
00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:52,480
Speaker 1: from you. What like, what type of toll did that

147
00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:53,719
Speaker 1: take on you as a kid?

148
00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,320
Speaker 2: It took. It took a lot out of me because

149
00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:58,039
Speaker 2: I just thought it was ool. This is finally my

150
00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,680
Speaker 2: breakthrough I've been working for for the last three four years.

151
00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:03,680
Speaker 2: But at the same time, if you can ask my mom,

152
00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:05,880
Speaker 2: it was like I I took it and it you know,

153
00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:08,200
Speaker 2: it just right up my shoulder. I was like, no,

154
00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:10,400
Speaker 2: we're good. You know, whatever God got for me got

155
00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:12,120
Speaker 2: for uh, he got for me. And I don't know

156
00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,240
Speaker 2: how I had that mindset at the at that age,

157
00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:17,040
Speaker 2: but I did. And after I lost that last one,

158
00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:18,840
Speaker 2: I told my mom that I was ready to go

159
00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:21,440
Speaker 2: back to to Huntsville and be a kid again, just

160
00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:22,880
Speaker 2: to you know, experience different things.

161
00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:26,440
Speaker 1: That's I love that. Okay, so you move back to Huntsville.

162
00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:28,680
Speaker 1: I want to be a kid again. Yes, that's I mean,

163
00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:30,640
Speaker 1: I can understand that, because that's a lot as a

164
00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:33,120
Speaker 1: kid to pursue. As an adult, we know what it's

165
00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:35,720
Speaker 1: like pursuing acting, so I can't imagine what it's like

166
00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,840
Speaker 1: as a child. Was your mom supportive or did she

167
00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,280
Speaker 1: feel like well, I didn't uproot it and did all this. No, I.

168
00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:44,640
Speaker 2: Think she was ready to. You know, Like I said,

169
00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:46,280
Speaker 2: we had been out there on the grind for three

170
00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:48,400
Speaker 2: h three to four years, and I think we both

171
00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:50,520
Speaker 2: just kind of needed a break and reset. I didn't

172
00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:52,280
Speaker 2: know there was going to be that long of a reset.

173
00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:54,520
Speaker 2: But again, I was missing out on so much time.

174
00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,280
Speaker 2: I'm thousand miles away from my friends and I'm on

175
00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:00,880
Speaker 2: my Space just seeing them have fun, and I right

176
00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:02,240
Speaker 2: my Space. That's how you know.

177
00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:03,720
Speaker 1: That's how old you are.

178
00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:07,280
Speaker 2: Yes, I don't like that. I like that.

179
00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:12,000
Speaker 1: I thought i'd be dating myself when I talked about MySpace. Okay,

180
00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,360
Speaker 1: you was in the MySpace area. Okay, I guess you're

181
00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:17,320
Speaker 1: not a baby. No worre Okay, there we go, we

182
00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:18,000
Speaker 1: settle back.

183
00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,360
Speaker 2: But no, like I said, I'm just want to be

184
00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:22,960
Speaker 2: a kid again. I want to play sports because I

185
00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,360
Speaker 2: didn't get to play sports out there, and I was working,

186
00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:27,880
Speaker 2: I was legit working and getting homeschooled on set. So

187
00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:29,480
Speaker 2: I just wanted to.

188
00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:32,199
Speaker 1: Be a kid. Yeah, I get that. So I want

189
00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,959
Speaker 1: to talk about you being homeschooled as a childhood actor

190
00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:38,600
Speaker 1: on set and basically missing your childhood. Do you feel

191
00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:41,480
Speaker 1: like that's okay or would you even want your son

192
00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:43,040
Speaker 1: doing that at a young age.

193
00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:47,080
Speaker 2: It's tricky. It's a tricky business. I feel like you

194
00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:48,880
Speaker 2: can get lost in it, you know, if you don't

195
00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:53,000
Speaker 2: have a strong support group, because they throw a lot

196
00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:57,880
Speaker 2: of things at you, and they they love the vulnerable people.

197
00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:01,360
Speaker 2: Kids are very vulnerable in that industry. There's a lot

198
00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:04,200
Speaker 2: of things that happen out there that you know, I'm

199
00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:07,240
Speaker 2: just not with. You know. It was different situations that

200
00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,880
Speaker 2: came across when I was a kid, and thank God

201
00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:12,280
Speaker 2: for my mama, she saw it, and you know, no,

202
00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:14,520
Speaker 2: we're not doing that. No he's not coming there, you

203
00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:16,680
Speaker 2: know what I mean. So, but as far as the

204
00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:19,640
Speaker 2: homeschooling aspect, you know, it's definitely difficult. It's different from

205
00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:23,400
Speaker 2: being in the classroom. I don't think it's necessarily necessarily normal.

206
00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:25,760
Speaker 2: I would like for my child to be in a

207
00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:29,680
Speaker 2: you know, a real school system and learning. I don't

208
00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,080
Speaker 2: know if I'll let my son go out there. I

209
00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:34,480
Speaker 2: just want to protect them, I know, I just want.

210
00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:37,839
Speaker 1: To protect them, because, Yeah, I even feel like kids

211
00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:40,440
Speaker 1: would miss out a lot of development for sure, you know,

212
00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:44,440
Speaker 1: just being around other kids their age, and sure, I

213
00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:47,080
Speaker 1: know you pick up at that age. You're absorbing everything.

214
00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:48,920
Speaker 1: And I feel like you almost grew up really fast

215
00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:50,640
Speaker 1: because you meet a lot of childhood actors and they

216
00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:53,800
Speaker 1: are so mature, they almost act like adults. Sure, and

217
00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:55,920
Speaker 1: it's like, oh my gosh, and at one point you're

218
00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:59,199
Speaker 1: so impressed, but then it's like, dang, like you are

219
00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:00,600
Speaker 1: other person.

220
00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,840
Speaker 2: I see many good stories come from that from childhood actors,

221
00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:06,800
Speaker 2: you know. And I met a lot of friends out

222
00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:08,360
Speaker 2: there and I'm just seeing where they are now.

223
00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:09,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

224
00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:12,440
Speaker 2: I just sad, honestly, but I know it just comes

225
00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:14,520
Speaker 2: from being in that spotlight and being in that industry

226
00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:16,280
Speaker 2: at a young age, just taking over.

227
00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:19,320
Speaker 1: So yeah, are you grateful that you had the wherewithal

228
00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:21,200
Speaker 1: to say, hey, mom, I want to go home, I

229
00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:22,320
Speaker 1: want to be a kid again.

230
00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:24,160
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I don't know where I will be. You know,

231
00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:28,080
Speaker 2: I would have stayed out there. Yeah, in Hollywood. It's

232
00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:29,200
Speaker 2: scary there, it is.

233
00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:35,000
Speaker 1: So you get back to Alabama and that's when you

234
00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:38,120
Speaker 1: realize you love football or what was it that sparked that.

235
00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,560
Speaker 2: Honestly, I really did start playing football against high school so.

236
00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:45,400
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, yeah, okay, this is interesting.

237
00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:47,480
Speaker 2: Yes, I got back around middle school and I was

238
00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:50,040
Speaker 2: playing basketball. My brother played basketball, so I wanted to

239
00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:52,160
Speaker 2: play basketball. That's what I was doing. And they were like, man,

240
00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:53,760
Speaker 2: just coming out, just come out because I was good

241
00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,680
Speaker 2: when I was a kid. But you know, I'm LA.

242
00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:59,000
Speaker 2: We're not tackling. So I'm like, I'm good on that, right,

243
00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:02,600
Speaker 2: will stay play basket? Well you know, but uh yeah,

244
00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:04,400
Speaker 2: I got into football, I want to say, my ninth

245
00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:07,960
Speaker 2: grade year and it just took off. No. I was

246
00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:11,640
Speaker 2: never the five star, you know, recruit. I never had,

247
00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:13,640
Speaker 2: you know, all these scholarships, but I just grinded. I

248
00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:16,440
Speaker 2: had the discipline and I knew what I wanted, you know,

249
00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,320
Speaker 2: And then I was like, okay. My mom always told

250
00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:21,840
Speaker 2: me you going to college. So that was another reason

251
00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:23,880
Speaker 2: I wanted to go back because we talked about them. Okay,

252
00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:25,640
Speaker 2: I'll go to college. But if I'm gonna go to college,

253
00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:27,480
Speaker 2: we're not paying for it, so I need to get

254
00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:28,040
Speaker 2: a scholarship.

255
00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:30,959
Speaker 1: Yeah you thought you thought like that as a kid.

256
00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:33,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I didn't. I didn't think that we

257
00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:35,040
Speaker 2: had the money to pay for college. I didn't, you know,

258
00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:39,599
Speaker 2: but I knew I could get a scholarship, and I

259
00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:42,320
Speaker 2: ended up not getting a scholarship, you know. Through So

260
00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:46,600
Speaker 2: here's another situation that happened right before my senior year.

261
00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:50,080
Speaker 2: I was at the Camp seven on seven camp and

262
00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:53,480
Speaker 2: I broke both of my jaws, you know, I ran

263
00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:56,959
Speaker 2: face to face with another player and I shot it.

264
00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:00,840
Speaker 2: I shot it everything. So I got wie and screws

265
00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:04,560
Speaker 2: as in my job. So I was wired down for

266
00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:08,240
Speaker 2: six weeks and all of the recruitment and you know,

267
00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:10,800
Speaker 2: momentium that I had going into my senior year went away.

268
00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:16,360
Speaker 2: You know. So that was just another tough situation, and

269
00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:18,440
Speaker 2: it ended up leading to me having to walk on

270
00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:19,679
Speaker 2: to Granmar State University.

271
00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:26,000
Speaker 1: Wow. I love it. So it's given underdog, and it's

272
00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:28,680
Speaker 1: definitely given the story of an underdog for sure, and

273
00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:30,760
Speaker 1: the overcomer. Yeah, it seemed like you had to overcome

274
00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:31,040
Speaker 1: a lot.

275
00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:35,280
Speaker 2: I truly I love that, you know, underdog, So that's me.

276
00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:40,040
Speaker 1: Okay, So we get to college? What was next? Because

277
00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:42,640
Speaker 1: how to college go? Were you like a breakout? Start

278
00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:45,800
Speaker 1: your walk on? Another situation? I want you guys to

279
00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:48,040
Speaker 1: pay attention to the story because a lot of times

280
00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:50,760
Speaker 1: people see you where you are now on a hit show,

281
00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:53,480
Speaker 1: but don't understand like what it took to get there

282
00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:55,800
Speaker 1: and the different avenues that you take to find your

283
00:12:55,840 --> 00:13:01,400
Speaker 1: passion and yours has been like blow after blow after blow,

284
00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:04,520
Speaker 1: even from a childhood actor to now we're in college.

285
00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:07,680
Speaker 1: Didn't get the scholarship you wanted, walked onto your constantly

286
00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:10,280
Speaker 1: having to prove yourself. So what was that like?

287
00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:14,559
Speaker 2: Truthfully, I think that everything that I went through as

288
00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:17,439
Speaker 2: a kid and in high school it prepared me for

289
00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:19,160
Speaker 2: that journey that I was about to take when I

290
00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:21,640
Speaker 2: got to college, Cause legit, I I walk When I

291
00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:24,600
Speaker 2: walked on, maybe one coach knew who I was, and

292
00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:26,440
Speaker 2: I was through a friend of a friend, mm my

293
00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:28,160
Speaker 2: best friend that signed a scholarship there, and I was like,

294
00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:29,840
Speaker 2: if I'm gonna walk over somewhere, I'm gonna go with you.

295
00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:33,440
Speaker 2: So wow, we end up choosing Grammar State University. And

296
00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:34,960
Speaker 2: and like I said, nobody knew me. I wasn't a

297
00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:37,040
Speaker 2: big time recruit. But I worked and I worked hard,

298
00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,120
Speaker 2: and I and I earned my spot to the point

299
00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:40,839
Speaker 2: where they had to play me. I didn't get a

300
00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:42,840
Speaker 2: scholarship until like my junior year.

301
00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:43,360
Speaker 1: Mm.

302
00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:46,720
Speaker 2: Wow. So so yeah, and I broke out and I

303
00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:49,640
Speaker 2: just started balling, honestly. And the moment I picked up,

304
00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:51,960
Speaker 2: I started getting a lot of scouts coming checking for

305
00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:55,679
Speaker 2: me by my senior year, and I thought I was

306
00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:59,440
Speaker 2: gonna get drafted, you know, And of course I didn't

307
00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:02,880
Speaker 2: get drafted, went undrafted. So again, that story just continues

308
00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:03,120
Speaker 2: with me.

309
00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:07,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, at any point network to college now, at any

310
00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:10,839
Speaker 1: point where you like leaning on God or losing faith,

311
00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:13,880
Speaker 1: because it's like dang, I like every time I get

312
00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:16,319
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm making a step, it's like another roadblock.

313
00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:18,360
Speaker 1: Was there any moment where you were kind of like

314
00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:19,120
Speaker 1: come on now.

315
00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:21,480
Speaker 2: No, definitely, I think you know, once you go through

316
00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:25,920
Speaker 2: those type of moments, it touted your faith and it

317
00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:28,280
Speaker 2: pushed you, you know, in a lot of moments where

318
00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:30,280
Speaker 2: it's just you got to sit alone and truly figure

319
00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:31,840
Speaker 2: out if this is what I want you know, and

320
00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:34,280
Speaker 2: then you have to lean on your support system. I

321
00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:37,320
Speaker 2: had an amazing support system, you know, my parents, my brother,

322
00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:39,880
Speaker 2: and they just sticking with me, and at times, honestly,

323
00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:41,960
Speaker 2: they believed in me more than I believe in myself. Yeah,

324
00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:45,400
Speaker 2: you know, which I thank them so much for. But

325
00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:48,760
Speaker 2: definitely I didn't know that if I was good enough.

326
00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:50,280
Speaker 2: Always had that back in, you know, in the back

327
00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:52,880
Speaker 2: of my mind, can I do this right. I'm coming

328
00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:57,280
Speaker 2: from a small HBCU in Little Louisiana, so I didn't

329
00:14:57,280 --> 00:15:00,280
Speaker 2: know if I was good enough. Well, I knew I

330
00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:02,240
Speaker 2: had the formula to make it what I wanted to make.

331
00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:06,200
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, that's good. I love that. So you get

332
00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:09,440
Speaker 1: we're in your junior year of college, You're getting all

333
00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:12,040
Speaker 1: these recruits, scouts are looking at you. Think you're gonna

334
00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:14,600
Speaker 1: get drafted to the NFL. You don't get drafted. You

335
00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:15,600
Speaker 1: know what happens next.

336
00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:18,520
Speaker 2: Oh, and it's crazy because I legit thought I was

337
00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:20,920
Speaker 2: gonna get drafted. And I say, my my phone was

338
00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:24,760
Speaker 2: ringing multiple times a day. I'm having a conversation with

339
00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:28,440
Speaker 2: these scouts and these coaches, and draft day comes and

340
00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:32,800
Speaker 2: you know, Day one, you don't get picked. Day two,

341
00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:35,880
Speaker 2: you got all your family around watching it, and day two,

342
00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:37,720
Speaker 2: day three, and you still don't get picked. But you're

343
00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:39,840
Speaker 2: getting cast about the draft to where the point are like,

344
00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,320
Speaker 2: and you're still there. We're just checking on you something. Okay, cool,

345
00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:45,280
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get picked by six seven round right.

346
00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:47,120
Speaker 1: And you don't get the call, and it's like, how

347
00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:49,280
Speaker 1: many days is the NFL Draft?

348
00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:52,320
Speaker 2: Two to three days? Okay, yeah, two or three days.

349
00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:57,400
Speaker 2: So just not getting that call it another gut blow. Yeah,

350
00:15:57,480 --> 00:15:58,280
Speaker 2: but I got a call.

351
00:15:59,280 --> 00:15:59,920
Speaker 1: I can't imagine.

352
00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,920
Speaker 2: As soon as the draft was over, the Indianapolis coach

353
00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:04,960
Speaker 2: had called and they were one of the first ones

354
00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,280
Speaker 2: that really connected with me throughout the process. It was

355
00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:11,160
Speaker 2: between them, the Jets and the Giants, and I ended

356
00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:13,160
Speaker 2: up going with the coach. It's based off their roster

357
00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:15,280
Speaker 2: and just how much they really you know, I poured

358
00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:15,840
Speaker 2: in to me, M.

359
00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,680
Speaker 1: M, I love it. I love it. So you are

360
00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:23,640
Speaker 1: in the NFL and then something traumatic happens with your family. Yes,

361
00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:26,920
Speaker 1: I feel like it's important to touch on this because

362
00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:30,320
Speaker 1: there's so many highs and lows in all our stories

363
00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:32,360
Speaker 1: and you just never know what people have gone through.

364
00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:35,120
Speaker 1: Would you like to share what happened.

365
00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:37,720
Speaker 2: So, I mean, so go back, going back to the

366
00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,120
Speaker 2: draft day, I'll never forget the moment I got the

367
00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:44,080
Speaker 2: call and accept it, you know, going out walcome being

368
00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:47,200
Speaker 2: undrafted to the coach. It was a special moment that me,

369
00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:50,600
Speaker 2: my mom, my brother, my dad had. But after we celebrated,

370
00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:52,600
Speaker 2: my mom, you know, she got this discernment. You know

371
00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:59,040
Speaker 2: that God bless you, I always know. Yeah, it was

372
00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:00,880
Speaker 2: a moment where she was just like, I hope you'

373
00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:05,240
Speaker 2: allready because the devil was he's mad, he just got

374
00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:08,480
Speaker 2: blessed with this. But whatever you got going on, clean

375
00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:10,600
Speaker 2: it up. You gotta walk a straight line because the

376
00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:12,840
Speaker 2: devil was about to do this. You know, you hear it.

377
00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:18,600
Speaker 2: But at the moment, it's like you celebrated turn up right,

378
00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:21,120
Speaker 2: Like I'm not trying to think negative, but she just gotta,

379
00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:26,040
Speaker 2: you know, keep it real. Going into my rookie year,

380
00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:30,159
Speaker 2: I end up making a team and the first so

381
00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:34,080
Speaker 2: the first away game we had, my parents came and

382
00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:38,399
Speaker 2: the house got broken into right like they came. They

383
00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:43,000
Speaker 2: took everything. I'm talking about everything, wiped it clean. Like

384
00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:45,520
Speaker 2: it was probably one of the most traumatic moments for

385
00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:50,399
Speaker 2: my family. Yeah, so that happened. Boom. The second is

386
00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:54,200
Speaker 2: that happened my dad is coming home from Word. Two

387
00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:57,040
Speaker 2: men you know, jump out at gunpoint trying to rob

388
00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:00,440
Speaker 2: my dad and there wasn't nobody but God cause he

389
00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:02,439
Speaker 2: didn't have a weapon. He just ran in and they

390
00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:06,919
Speaker 2: ran away. And then the last thing that happened was

391
00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:09,200
Speaker 2: my dad ended up getting jammed up in a situation

392
00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:11,520
Speaker 2: to where you know, he ended up going to prison.

393
00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:14,159
Speaker 2: And this all happens, you know, back to back to

394
00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:15,720
Speaker 2: back in like in the five.

395
00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:17,600
Speaker 1: Week spand oh, my God, of your rookie year, of

396
00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:19,280
Speaker 1: my rookie year. This sposed to be like the highest

397
00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:22,320
Speaker 1: moment of your life, absolutely, and all these things are happening.

398
00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:24,920
Speaker 2: All these things are happening, And for the longest, I

399
00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,320
Speaker 2: kind of I don't know if if I heard other

400
00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:30,800
Speaker 2: name for it, it's survivor's guilt, but like I kind

401
00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:32,480
Speaker 2: of I had it on me and I felt like

402
00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:35,320
Speaker 2: I brought this attention to the family to where, you know,

403
00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:36,919
Speaker 2: all this bad stuff started happening.

404
00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:38,080
Speaker 1: So like, yeah, I.

405
00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:40,480
Speaker 2: Was just walking around depressed for like the longest because

406
00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:43,639
Speaker 2: I lost my father figure and my father in the

407
00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:46,040
Speaker 2: special time in my life, I wanted to celebrate.

408
00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:46,600
Speaker 1: With him absolutely.

409
00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:49,199
Speaker 2: I needed him. He was going for three years, so

410
00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:49,760
Speaker 2: it was tough.

411
00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:52,960
Speaker 1: Wow. So every day that, every Sunday that you had

412
00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:55,320
Speaker 1: to go out there, what was that like playing knowing

413
00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:57,720
Speaker 1: that your I know, your mom and your grandparents and

414
00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:00,000
Speaker 1: your brother were probably there. But what was it life

415
00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:02,040
Speaker 1: looking up there knowing that my pause is not here.

416
00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:05,080
Speaker 2: It was tough. It was tough because you know, you

417
00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:07,240
Speaker 2: want him there. He was there when I scored my

418
00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:09,800
Speaker 2: first because he didn't end up, you know, getting convicted

419
00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:12,760
Speaker 2: and leaving until my second year, but he was there

420
00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,680
Speaker 2: for my first touchdown when I scored it, I took

421
00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:17,840
Speaker 2: the ball up to him, he came down running it down.

422
00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,880
Speaker 2: So just knowing that he wasn't there for the next

423
00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:23,400
Speaker 2: three years, it was tough. But I knew he was inside.

424
00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:25,080
Speaker 2: I wanted to put on for him because I know

425
00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:25,920
Speaker 2: he in there. Washington.

426
00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, it was.

427
00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:30,280
Speaker 2: It was tough, but we made it through.

428
00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:34,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. You talked about depression, and that's something that I

429
00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:37,240
Speaker 1: feel like our community battles a lot, and we're just

430
00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:39,760
Speaker 1: getting to the point now where we are embracing therapy

431
00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:44,680
Speaker 1: or embracing talking to someone. I don't feel like therapy

432
00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:47,680
Speaker 1: was as popular or trendy as it is now then

433
00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:49,520
Speaker 1: when you were going through it, So how did you

434
00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:51,560
Speaker 1: even deal with it or did you even realize I'm

435
00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:53,480
Speaker 1: depressed or is it now that you were able to

436
00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:55,560
Speaker 1: identify that was actually depression?

437
00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:57,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't. I didn't really I didn't know what

438
00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:58,720
Speaker 2: it was. I know what that feeling was. I never

439
00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,960
Speaker 2: went through It wasn't until like I had no other

440
00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:04,639
Speaker 2: choice and no one to lean on except you know,

441
00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,040
Speaker 2: my God and my family, and ended up having to

442
00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:09,840
Speaker 2: do my own research and try different people out to

443
00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,520
Speaker 2: talk to to be able to release you know, certain things,

444
00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:16,240
Speaker 2: and it really really helped and I'm doing it to

445
00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:19,919
Speaker 2: this day. No, depression is something that I think, you know,

446
00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,720
Speaker 2: it's it's relevant now. It's important. You got to be

447
00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:25,119
Speaker 2: self aware and don't be embarrassed about it. Like we

448
00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:25,600
Speaker 2: all go.

449
00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,320
Speaker 1: Through something we do, Yeah, cause I think we especially

450
00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:31,159
Speaker 1: I can't speak for me and myself, but I know

451
00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:35,560
Speaker 1: the the the stress, the stress and the pressure that's

452
00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:37,560
Speaker 1: put on our black men to where you have to

453
00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:39,359
Speaker 1: be so strong and even black women we had to

454
00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:41,800
Speaker 1: be strong. We got to keep pushing and a lot

455
00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:43,800
Speaker 1: of times we don't deal with what we're dealing with

456
00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:45,119
Speaker 1: we don't take the time to just sit down and

457
00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:47,359
Speaker 1: be like, wait a minute, I'm really going through something

458
00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:49,760
Speaker 1: right now, and you do feel embarrassed or you don't

459
00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:51,800
Speaker 1: know how to talk to somebody about it.

460
00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:55,560
Speaker 2: Like it's okay not to be okay, like we're human, Yes, exactly, obot.

461
00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:58,000
Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't not be embarrassed.

462
00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:03,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that. I love that. So let's fast forward.

463
00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,880
Speaker 1: You're playing football and then I meet you in two

464
00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:12,520
Speaker 1: thousand and twenty two. Yeah, twenty two, and this is

465
00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,520
Speaker 1: when you are still playing football. This is something that

466
00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,159
Speaker 1: I don't feel like a lot of athletes have gotten

467
00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:22,440
Speaker 1: to do, like actively acting and playing football. You were

468
00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:25,439
Speaker 1: doing both at the same time. What was it like

469
00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,879
Speaker 1: when you fact, well, actually, no, let's go back to

470
00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:34,520
Speaker 1: how did even the role of Sterling Black coming art?

471
00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:38,320
Speaker 1: Because I know you were in Atlanta off season and

472
00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:40,920
Speaker 1: then this happened, Like, how did that even come about?

473
00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:45,040
Speaker 2: So going back a little bit, I was with the

474
00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,800
Speaker 2: Tennessee Titans and we had just finished the playoffs second round.

475
00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:48,719
Speaker 2: We lost to the Bengals.

476
00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,080
Speaker 1: Shout out of Titans lost.

477
00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:52,920
Speaker 2: The was supposed to go to the Super Bowl. That Yeah,

478
00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:57,480
Speaker 2: I'm still sick about that. But yeah, so off season hit,

479
00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:01,160
Speaker 2: probably one into the off season, and I'm going into

480
00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,280
Speaker 2: my you know, I just really got into my entrepreneur yeah,

481
00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,520
Speaker 2: you know stuff, and I'm looking at buildings, you know

482
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:10,040
Speaker 2: for a business that I'm about to open, and you know,

483
00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:11,560
Speaker 2: we're still on the side of the road and the

484
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:13,840
Speaker 2: family pulls up and they're asking, you know, where to

485
00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,400
Speaker 2: go get breakfast. You know, it's another little spot down

486
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:20,360
Speaker 2: there called Two Thumbs Up. So we telling them where

487
00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,320
Speaker 2: to go, and they be like, we're hungry too. So

488
00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 2: we go to two Thumbs Up and we're standing out there.

489
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,800
Speaker 2: It's a long wait. We see this guy over there

490
00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:30,360
Speaker 2: with a BMF hoodie and his wife, so we ain't

491
00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:32,200
Speaker 2: think nothing of but we're like, hold on, he can't

492
00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:38,680
Speaker 2: be in a real BMS course, right right. So it's

493
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:42,840
Speaker 2: like he can't be with me, you know, right. You know.

494
00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:47,040
Speaker 2: My Duke's she she always thinking, she always ten steps

495
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,640
Speaker 2: of heads. I see here, walk away. I'm still talking

496
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,400
Speaker 2: to Plops. She go over there talking to him. Okay, cool.

497
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,359
Speaker 2: She comes back. She's like, yo, that's the producer, you know,

498
00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,080
Speaker 2: she has to producer BMF. She introduced herself. They were

499
00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:00,240
Speaker 2: just talking, so we go we get sit down, they're

500
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 2: still standing out there. So we're like, let's just invite

501
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:06,360
Speaker 2: them for breakfast. See where it goes. They come, they

502
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,760
Speaker 2: join us, and we just hit it off. You know.

503
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 2: It's one of the most amazing families. Ian Wolf and

504
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:15,159
Speaker 2: Miss Patricia Wolf. I love them, and we really just

505
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 2: hit it off. And and I just shot my shot.

506
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,159
Speaker 1: You know, I'm just now. Sometimes you gotta see what

507
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 1: your shot scared.

508
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 2: So I didn't have a resume or my head shots.

509
00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,760
Speaker 2: I put all that together like this, and once he

510
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:33,399
Speaker 2: reached out to Randy and you know, told him about me,

511
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 2: I left it at that. You know what I'm saying.

512
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 2: I put it in God's head. I love it at

513
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:40,000
Speaker 2: that and legit, two weeks later, I met I'm in

514
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 2: Houston with my son. I checked my email a like

515
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 2: ten o'clock at night, and it says you have an

516
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:48,160
Speaker 2: audition doing fourty eight hours. You know, is that quick?

517
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 2: You know all the time, So I, legit did not

518
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:53,680
Speaker 2: think that it was going to happen that fast. I

519
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 2: really didn't think I was gonna get audition. It was

520
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,920
Speaker 2: just like a long shot. But I ended up getting

521
00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,440
Speaker 2: that audition, and like we went right back to when

522
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 2: I was ten years ten years old in La.

523
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was almost like muscle memory.

524
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was much.

525
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 1: Yeah.

526
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 2: I flew back to Atlanta when it got my wardrobe.

527
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:12,960
Speaker 2: I called an acting coach. Wow, twenty four hours audition.

528
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 1: How long did it take for you to find out

529
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:16,360
Speaker 1: that you actually booked the role?

530
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 2: Truthfully? I got hit back in probably like an hour.

531
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 1: You are lying.

532
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 2: I promise you I got hit back.

533
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,399
Speaker 1: I wish I would get that. I need to know

534
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 1: now the like, yeah, we just decided to go on

535
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 1: a different nobody but god, so it was nothing but god.

536
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 2: Wow, yeah GP, George Pier. He hit me back in

537
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 2: like an hour, checking out shout.

538
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:38,120
Speaker 1: Out George Pierre.

539
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,880
Speaker 2: Yes, my god, yes, yeah, you know, checking my availability.

540
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,879
Speaker 2: But I didn't get confirmed probably like two weeks later.

541
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:51,440
Speaker 2: But I kind of, you know, knew, I'm just waitingformation happened.

542
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,120
Speaker 1: Quick, okay, So waiting on this confirmation. Was there any

543
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,360
Speaker 1: moment where you had a little doubt thinking like how

544
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 1: you had gotten almost gotten all these other roles, where

545
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:02,200
Speaker 1: you were like, did they come through? Okay?

546
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 2: That's why we didn't tell anybody, Like I told my

547
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 2: parents about it, but we didn't want to tell anybody like, look,

548
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 2: we've been here before. Yeah twice actually, so let's just

549
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 2: keep between us, pray about it, and just let it happen. Yeah.

550
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:16,120
Speaker 1: I love that. So now we are in season.

551
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 2: Three three, three is right now, we're about to shoot

552
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 2: season four starting this month.

553
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 1: This month. This is crazy and you're killing it like

554
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 1: b is one of my favorite shows. It's so good,

555
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 1: the cast is amazing, and every time I see you

556
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 1: call on the scrount like, that's why I so proud

557
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 1: of you are killing it. So a lot of times

558
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,440
Speaker 1: when athletes come out of that where that's all they've

559
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,159
Speaker 1: known all their life and they are stepping into a

560
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 1: new area or even trying to figure it out. I

561
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:48,919
Speaker 1: feel like you're super blessed in the area that or

562
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 1: in the I feel like you're super blessed that you

563
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 1: were able to go straight from playing football right into acting.

564
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 1: You really didn't have like that phase of like what

565
00:25:58,600 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 1: am I gonna do?

566
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:00,159
Speaker 2: You know?

567
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 1: But it was also it's a new world. You're an

568
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 1: adult now, you're not a kid anymore, and what you're

569
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,159
Speaker 1: portraying is a real life character. This isn't just like

570
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,880
Speaker 1: a character. This is actually a person that you're portraying,

571
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,359
Speaker 1: So what type of I don't want to say pressure,

572
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 1: but like, was there any pressure where it came to

573
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,119
Speaker 1: I've got to really nail this role because this is

574
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,679
Speaker 1: an actual person at first.

575
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,360
Speaker 2: So you know a lot of these guys that were

576
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 2: really portraying or going through real life situations. M A

577
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 2: lot of them still are in prison. So it was

578
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 2: a lot. It was very minimal of the information that

579
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 2: we got about the character, specially on mine, especially mine.

580
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I tried to look him out. It's not a

581
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,200
Speaker 1: lot of information. It's like a ghost almost right.

582
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 2: Is actually like I legit had to go through like

583
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 2: court documents and read their cases just to get some information. Now, unfortunately,

584
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,879
Speaker 2: you know, especially this season, a lot of the guys

585
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:54,680
Speaker 2: from Pure To and av PA Boysy Boys, they're reaching

586
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 2: out to me to.

587
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 1: Give you information on your character. Is he still alive?

588
00:26:59,600 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 1: Is he?

589
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 2: Yeah? No, so one of them still locked up and

590
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 2: so like the group, but another one's out so but

591
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,360
Speaker 2: they're still best for ends of this day and see.

592
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 2: So yeah, the process of portraying this character has really

593
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,880
Speaker 2: start to pick up. I want to say the last

594
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 2: two seasons because like one of the characters of his

595
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:23,400
Speaker 2: sister she connected with me, and like we've just been communicating.

596
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 2: I'm really trying to, you know, get this character development

597
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,159
Speaker 2: down as much information. Like last night, I watched a

598
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 2: documentary on the Pa Boys, and I'm like, Okay, I

599
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,439
Speaker 2: wish I had this in season two. I was blind

600
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 2: in season two. I'm just going out there just like

601
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,399
Speaker 2: just reading the scription I got in my audition and

602
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 2: winging it.

603
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:38,639
Speaker 1: Yeah.

604
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 2: I feel way more prepared, and that's good.

605
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 1: I love that. It's amazing when you can actually like

606
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 1: find information and actually build the character because sometimes when

607
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,959
Speaker 1: you like, even with my character on Sisters, I'm not

608
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 1: learning a lot of things until the writer writes about it.

609
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 1: So I'm like, oh, this is why she's like this.

610
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 1: But if I hadn't known this in season one, I

611
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:01,119
Speaker 1: may have played some things differently, you know. So I

612
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 1: know exactly what you mean when it's like you feel

613
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 1: like you're behind the mark and the character development part.

614
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 2: How does he walk right? He got family? Like, what

615
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 2: is he like? Tell me who this guy is? And

616
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,120
Speaker 2: I had nothing, So it's a little difficult.

617
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. Something I struggle with as an actor is the

618
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 1: character I portray and who I'm in real life and

619
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:25,679
Speaker 1: my relationship with God, and it kind of gets tricky sometimes.

620
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 1: Do you ever have moments playing like this gangster, this

621
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 1: killer because Sterling Black don't play. It does not play.

622
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 1: Do you ever have any like moments where You're like, God,

623
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 1: is this cool? Because I know for me it's Fatima,

624
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 1: Like there's certain things that they have me doing. I'm like, Okay,

625
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 1: I know this saint who I am, but this is

626
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 1: the character I'm playing.

627
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I could truthfully say in a moment, I

628
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 2: don't think about it. But after I'm done with it

629
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 2: and my grandparents have to go watch it, you know,

630
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 2: stuff like that, I'm like, oh, please, look, grandmama, it's

631
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 2: not me for real, stick your baby, you know what

632
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 2: I'm saying.

633
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 1: So, uh like it's my baby.

634
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 2: They are into it, you know, like they love it.

635
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 2: It's kind of a little embarrassing sometimes and I'm cussing

636
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 2: and doing all that, right, you know you did be

637
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 2: doing that.

638
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 1: Like the first doing its.

639
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 2: Uncomfortable smoking at you know what I'm saying.

640
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 1: Nah, yeah, it's funny, but yeah, I definitely struggle with

641
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 1: that as well. I finally come to an understanding that

642
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 1: it's my job and that that's why I go extra

643
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 1: hard and making sure that people know who Crystal is.

644
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 1: And then I set the example as Crystal, not as

645
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 1: my characters that I play, because.

646
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 2: You do an amazing job doing Thank you.

647
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. I remember this part of the

648
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 1: scene where you had to do like the switch blade,

649
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 1: and you told me, like you had to learn. They

650
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 1: didn't give you any training. You literally had to learn that.

651
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 2: Like right, that was That was my first day on set.

652
00:29:58,080 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 2: I'm reading the script, I'm reading the audition, so I

653
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 2: got just like a regular night the whole time. As

654
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 2: I'm preparing for this, I get on set, sitting in

655
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 2: my trailer, stunt double just walks up like, Hey, that's

656
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 2: what we need you to do. Get on YouTube, figure

657
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:13,719
Speaker 2: it out.

658
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 1: Get on YouTube and figure it.

659
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 2: Out like a real knife.

660
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 1: So it was like swich blade.

661
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 2: Let's do was something, but it's a certain way. It's

662
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 2: like you just can't open it up right. I had

663
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 2: like an hour maybe two at the most to figure

664
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 2: this out and nail it from my first scene.

665
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 1: Wow.

666
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 2: So it went from oh I got this, I'm confident,

667
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 2: I know my lines. One scene. It was one scene

668
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 2: that together, I know my lines, I got this, to yeah,

669
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 2: I'm tripping. I didn't forgot it when we got on set.

670
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 2: I forgot my line because I'm so worried about this blade, right,

671
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 2: but it looked good.

672
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 1: It did look good, But I mean they just goes

673
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 1: to show you you can be ready and then anything

674
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 1: can be thrown that you set for sure. Yeah, no,

675
00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 1: you do. But I couldn't tell when you told me

676
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 1: that story before where I watched the episode, I was like,

677
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 1: I couldn't even tell, like, ye oh my god, but

678
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 1: you're an actor because I couldn't not tell for real.

679
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 2: And then I'm at the same time of opening the

680
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 2: blade trying not to stab this man for real because

681
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 2: you know, I got to come.

682
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 1: So they it wasn't like a fake like when you

683
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 1: got ready stab. It wasn't fake.

684
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 2: So so no, so I had to stop right in

685
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 2: between his fingers and we cut it and then then

686
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 2: we did a reverse. You know, I had it in

687
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 2: the table.

688
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 1: You see it, It just looks wow TV magic, that's crazy.

689
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 2: I got another scene this season too, a legit stabbing

690
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 2: this time, and it's gonna be crazy. Wow.

691
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 1: Grandma is gonna be like, oh lord, my baby's a killer.

692
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 1: So what is it like? You're walking on set. You're

693
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 1: the new kid on the block. You got little Meat

694
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 1: who is we're like literally telling his legacy story, you know,

695
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 1: of his father. And then you have advench you who's

696
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 1: been on a lot of things. What was it like

697
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 1: working with him? Did was there anything like timidus or

698
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 1: were you kind of like kind of For me, I

699
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 1: definitely feels a little timidus when I first walked on Sisters.

700
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 2: I think just being in the NFL kind of prepares

701
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 2: me for that, you know, you know, going on to

702
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 2: new teams, it's always new faces. Sure, it was just

703
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 2: like you know, walking into training camp. You know what

704
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 2: I'm saying, seen your new teammates, But you know, you're

705
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 2: definitely a little nervous because you know you're new to it,

706
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 2: a new kid on the block. Even though I started

707
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 2: the age of ten, I'm new with this. Everything is different,

708
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:33,479
Speaker 2: so you know, everybody's not really there to make friends

709
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 2: when you first get on there to you know, get chemistry.

710
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 2: And yeah, it took a little time, but I was

711
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 2: just staying to myself and working showing, you know, letting

712
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 2: my works before self. Yes, I'm not trying to win

713
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 2: nobody over. I'm here to do a job. So that's

714
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 2: kind of how I approached it.

715
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 1: I love that. I love that. So you made it

716
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 1: to your first big acting gig. What is next for.

717
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 2: Well, for me, you know, just really continue to kill

718
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 2: you know, b m F. I have a book that

719
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 2: I'm working on, a children's book.

720
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 1: What prompted the children's book.

721
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 2: So what prompted it was basically my story and then

722
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 2: my son, so you know, having two and a half

723
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 2: year old he's about to be three in May, but

724
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 2: just growing up so fast, no I know, but just

725
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 2: you know, having him, it just opened up my imagination again.

726
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 2: And man, I would truly say that process of writing

727
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 2: that book and illustrating it was one of the best

728
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 2: times I had. It's so fun and I'm gonna turn

729
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 2: it into an entire series. But outside of that, you know,

730
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 2: about to start working on the documentary. I really want to,

731
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 2: you know, get some work behind the camera as much

732
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 2: as I do in front of the executive credits and that,

733
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 2: and you know, just really you know, get into my

734
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 2: entrepreneurship and open up more businesses.

735
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 1: That's what's up. I want to touch on the spirit

736
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 1: of rejection, and you chose two of the most I

737
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 1: would say careers that you get rejected the most an

738
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 1: athlete and an actor. And I can speak on the

739
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 1: actor part where no after no action, no after no

740
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 1: aften know, but has that spirit of rejection ever flowed

741
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 1: into other areas of your life, because I'm sure, like

742
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 1: I know for me like that insecurity definitely has come

743
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:28,840
Speaker 1: up in other areas of my life.

744
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 2: No, for sure, and a lot of people probably wouldn't

745
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 2: believe it, but I think again, I start the age

746
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 2: of ten, I've been hearing no all my life. So

747
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 2: I definitely have a lot of insecurities, just never knowing

748
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 2: if I'm good enough or something. Always doubted myself, feeling

749
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 2: like others are better than me in certain certain things

750
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 2: and I maybe not no experienced then, so I just

751
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 2: have to fight that all the time. It's like even

752
00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 2: in relationships too though, you know, just wondering if good

753
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,879
Speaker 2: enough for somebody and it's like, yo, you are him,

754
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 2: like I have period, Like you know what I'm say,

755
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 2: You gotta tell yourself like you are to catch you

756
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,839
Speaker 2: are him, You're good enough, and you know what I'm saying,

757
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 2: stop doubting yourself, like truly truly be that guy. And

758
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 2: I think that insecurity has caused me to kind of

759
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 2: play myself down in a lot of situations, being too humble.

760
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,760
Speaker 1: You are very thin, you kind of like in a room,

761
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 1: you kind of like disappeared, like you don't like you

762
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Once you get to know he's like,

763
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 1: oh he is a standout, but like in a room,

764
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 1: you are super quiet, like dug off, like not attention

765
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 1: sinking it all.

766
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 2: I gotta, I gotta, I gotta fix that because you can,

767
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 2: you can play yourself out of a position, you know

768
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,760
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, out of certain situations when you're too humble,

769
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 2: And it's okay to be humble, but you gotta be

770
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,360
Speaker 2: a little arrogant, you know, you gotta be a little

771
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 2: full of yourself in certain situations.

772
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 1: And no confident.

773
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,240
Speaker 2: Absolutely, it ain't got to come off as you know.

774
00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, pompous or like I'm better than you. But I

775
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 1: know what I bring to the table exactly.

776
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,399
Speaker 2: And that's really what I'm getting to over the last

777
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 2: two years. It's truly just YEA believe it in myself.

778
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:11,359
Speaker 1: Because sometimes that spirit of rejection can turn to insecurity

779
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 1: and then in relationships, we use it as a defense

780
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 1: mechanism to not get hurt. You know, we can kind

781
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 1: of set something with our partner, whatever the situation may be.

782
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 1: And I know, for me, like I'll get ahead of

783
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:23,839
Speaker 1: it and be like, for you try to cut me off,

784
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ahead and cut.

785
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 2: You off out of me. Oh my god, I shut

786
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 2: down so quick. I ain't eve gonna give you a

787
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 2: chance to hurt. I'm gonna just look here, I'm gonna

788
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 2: just shut it down.

789
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, because we put ourselves on the line

790
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 1: time after time after time, with every audition, with every

791
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 1: tryout that I think when it comes to other areas,

792
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 1: we just want to protect ourselves.

793
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,840
Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, because I definitely became numb to it. You

794
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 2: do auditions, I forget that I audition for it because

795
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 2: once I'm done with it, you have to.

796
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, you have to. You have to leave it at

797
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 1: the audition room when you walk out, send it to

798
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:57,800
Speaker 1: your agent. I'll send it to the Nora and I

799
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: wait on her reaction, like all right after I'm done

800
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:01,240
Speaker 1: with it, I don't want.

801
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 2: To think about it words because when I first started

802
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 2: back auditions, and I audition with something like oh I

803
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 2: kipt this and I'm talking, I'm checking my email all

804
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 2: every day. You know what I'm saying, don't let you

805
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 2: get a call back. I got a call back, or

806
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 2: check my availability. I'm calling my manager, Yo, what's up?

807
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 2: What we're doing that?

808
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,240
Speaker 1: Check your availability before would get you every time.

809
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, you gotta race short term memory.

810
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 1: I love that. That's good. So with relation, how are

811
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 1: you now with it? Do you feel like you're getting

812
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 1: better with managing that and not getting in your own

813
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 1: way as far as the spirit of rejection and relationships, relationships,

814
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 1: so just even personal with business.

815
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think it's every day, every day fight,

816
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. Just being more self aware,

817
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 2: just working on myself. That's kind of where I'm at

818
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 2: now everything. So I'm not really you know, focused on

819
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 2: the relationships.

820
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: But because you know, we gotta get to that.

821
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,320
Speaker 2: So I'm just working on myself.

822
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 1: That's good. So are you dating? Do you like? What

823
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 1: are you looking for?

824
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 2: Like?

825
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 1: Cause you're I feel like you're in a space now

826
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 1: where you've got the job. You know, you you're settled,

827
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 1: you successful, Like, what are you looking for or are

828
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: you still in a space where No, I don't have

829
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 1: time for that. I gotta get it.

830
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 2: No, I truly just don't think I have time to

831
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 2: really pour into a relationship like I do like to, Like,

832
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 2: if I'm going to commit to something, I want to

833
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 2: be one hundred percent there. Yeah, and with everything that's

834
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 2: on my plate right now, it's like it's kind of

835
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:31,479
Speaker 2: impossible for me. It's like just learning to prioritize, trying

836
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 2: to you know, be there for myseln as much as possible.

837
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 2: I'm missing out with so much time, you know, trying

838
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 2: to juggle all this stuff. That's probably one of the

839
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 2: hardest thing about this right now. It's like, do I

840
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 2: sacrifice this for this? But I know I have to

841
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 2: do what I have to do, you know what I'm

842
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 2: saying for him, Yeah, his you know future. So it's

843
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 2: just I'm figuring it out.

844
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 1: I love that Kyle kay is Kyrine. It doesn't call

845
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:58,760
Speaker 1: Kiro because as a deval condition Kiren. Yeah, I feel

846
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 1: like when you're trying to bounce said, the kid has

847
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 1: to come first, absolutely, you know, and then make time

848
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 1: for other things.

849
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 2: As you have time, everything will take care of yourself.

850
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 1: It will. Yeah, that's good. All right, So ladies, he

851
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 1: is not looking for anything right now. He doesn't have

852
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 1: the bandwidth or the capacity so check back later. All right, guys,

853
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 1: it is my favorite time of the show, Positive Outcomes,

854
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 1: where you the listeners write into me and me and

855
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 1: Terry are going to give you advice on it. All right.

856
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 1: So this one says I saw one of your recent

857
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 1: interviews and it literally changed my life. I was having

858
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 1: a really tough time dealing with a career that I

859
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,439
Speaker 1: knew wasn't for me, especially knowing that I was meant

860
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 1: to be doing something more. You talked about pivoting careers

861
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 1: and being in the season of pouring into yourself, which

862
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 1: is something that I need to work on. But I

863
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 1: believe God often uses people to speak to others, and

864
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 1: that day he definitely used you to speak to me,

865
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,840
Speaker 1: because that was a moment I felt the slow emotions

866
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 1: and a voice say that it was okay to go

867
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,720
Speaker 1: after my dreams of being a graphic designer video editor,

868
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 1: and that feeling has not gone away. But in pursuing

869
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 1: my passion and finding my purpose, my life has been

870
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 1: turned upside down on multiple occasions. I saw it seems

871
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,360
Speaker 1: like every time I start to gain momentum, there's a

872
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 1: major life event that happens, a divorce, multiple death in

873
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 1: the family, losing my job, you name it. That knocks

874
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:18,839
Speaker 1: the wind out of me. Sometimes it feels like I'm

875
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 1: so close to my breakthrough, yet so far away. How

876
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,720
Speaker 1: do you find strength, motivation, and the courage to continue

877
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 1: pursuing your passion, walking in your purpose during those moments

878
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 1: when it feels like everything is stacked against you. Well,

879
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:33,919
Speaker 1: I feel like this is both our stories. We both

880
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 1: can relate to this. First of all, thank you so

881
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:40,720
Speaker 1: much for writing in. I'm glad that my interview spoke

882
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,879
Speaker 1: to you. That's my story, and that's why I tell

883
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 1: my journey, and I tell it as many times as possible,

884
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,280
Speaker 1: because you just never know who's going to be impacted

885
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 1: on that particular day and inspired. But I would tell

886
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 1: you that there's been so many times in my journey

887
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 1: where I felt like the odds are stacked against me

888
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 1: and that I was almost there. And I know Trey

889
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 1: can attest this as well, moments where we really felt

890
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: like we're getting closer and closer to our breakthrough and

891
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,879
Speaker 1: then something else happens, or the job doesn't come through,

892
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 1: or I always picked somebody else in those moments, I

893
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 1: just made sure that I stayed firm in my faith.

894
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 1: If this is what God has planned in your heart,

895
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 1: and you know this is what you really wanna do.

896
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 1: Just stick to it because it's gonna happen. But it's

897
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 1: gonna happen in God's timing. And often I feel like

898
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 1: when I feel like when I find getting, when I

899
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:35,479
Speaker 1: find myself in those moments where I'm starting to say, Okay, God,

900
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 1: is this what you really have for me, and I

901
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 1: start to doubt myself, I just take a moment to

902
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 1: be still, because in those moments, that's when God really

903
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 1: reveals himself. He'll send you some type of affirmation, whether

904
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 1: it's watching my interview or talking to a friend or

905
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,319
Speaker 1: getting a phone call that shows you, Okay, I am

906
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 1: on the right path. That's when you know to stick

907
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 1: with it. But I would say just to continue to

908
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 1: go after what you really want and don't let anything

909
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 1: to turn. Life is gonna life. So you know what

910
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Life is gonna life. But you have to

911
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:07,959
Speaker 1: keep going. What do you think?

912
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, piggybacking off what you're saying, just you know, saying

913
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 2: standing the course for me, I truly embrace again, like

914
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 2: I said, the underdog mentality and just knowing that you

915
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:21,320
Speaker 2: know God's not gonna take you out of a storm

916
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 2: that he can develop you in. So whatever it is

917
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 2: that you're going through, just try to figure out what

918
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 2: you can learn through it. He got you in it

919
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 2: for a reason.

920
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 1: Oh he said, what you're going through, we're gonna get

921
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 1: to that.

922
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 2: That was good. Yeah, Like, whatever it is that you're

923
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:33,359
Speaker 2: going through, that's kind of how I try to look

924
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 2: at things. Change my perspective, not oh why me, but okay,

925
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 2: why am I here? What can I learn from it?

926
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 2: And I just try to keep my faith strong and

927
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:43,240
Speaker 2: knowing it's gonna work.

928
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 1: Out out, and it always does. It always works out

929
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 1: exactly how it's supposed to be. But it's all in

930
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 1: God's timing. I cannot stress that enough because there's so

931
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,839
Speaker 1: many times where'm like, Lord, I need this to work

932
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: right now, I need this to heaven now. And in

933
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 1: church yesterday they were talking about how we're always like

934
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 1: seeking progress, but we're not always seeking God's presence. So

935
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 1: sometimes you can be chasing after this thing, but you're

936
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 1: leaving God behind and past the Tide gave an analogy

937
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:09,760
Speaker 1: where he was him and his wife are in the airport.

938
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 1: They're trying to make it to their gate and he's

939
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,800
Speaker 1: walking fast, but he's not realizing he's leaving his wife behind.

940
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 1: So he looks back and he realized He's like, where

941
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 1: am I going? Because I know if I get to

942
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 1: the gate, if she ain't with me, I'm not getting

943
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 1: on the plane. So what am I doing? So I

944
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 1: would say make sure that whatever you're chasing after that

945
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 1: you also seek God's presence as you're trying to progress.

946
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 1: That was good, all right, So what we're gonna do

947
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 1: next is what I'm going through and what I'm growing through,

948
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 1: and I'll go first. Right now, I'm in a season

949
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 1: where I feel this immense like feeling of growth, transition, elevation,

950
00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 1: and I found that anxiety kind of creeping back, like

951
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 1: oh lord, okay, this is almost like all right, we're

952
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 1: going to another level. Now? Am I ready for this?

953
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 1: Making sure like everything is right? I'm a perfectionist and

954
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get out of that because shout out

955
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 1: to don A zmm men. My therapist. She tells me

956
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 1: all the time that perfection is a cancer. So I'm

957
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 1: trying to still like battle with letting that go. But

958
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 1: I want everything to be right and I want to

959
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 1: make sure that I seize the moment, you know what

960
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 1: I'm saying, as it comes. And I think you can

961
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 1: probably attest to this as actors whose careers are moving

962
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 1: right now. You want to strike while the iron is hot,

963
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 1: and you want to make sure that you don't you

964
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:36,240
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, You don't want to fumble the moment.

965
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 1: You know. So right now that's where I am. And

966
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 1: also what I just talked about, making sure that as

967
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 1: I'm trying to progress, that I keep God's presence in

968
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 1: my life and I seek that first.

969
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,399
Speaker 2: Yep, I think we're kind of on the same page.

970
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 2: You know. For me, I've just been getting backgrounded spiritually, mentally, physically,

971
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 2: getting back in the gym.

972
00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I gotta get.

973
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, just that growth. I feel like over the last

974
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,280
Speaker 2: twelve months, I've just been baking a lot of things,

975
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 2: just a lot of different things, just working on it

976
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 2: from my businesses and the careers and just it's time.

977
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 2: I feel like it's finally time. It's about to really

978
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 2: take off. So I'm ready for it.

979
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's good, awesome, all right, So Leslie, we're

980
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 1: gonna do keep it blank sweetye where we take something

981
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 1: that we've kind of talked about that you want to

982
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 1: tell the audience just some words of encouragement for them.

983
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 1: So I'm going to tell you guys this week to

984
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:45,240
Speaker 1: keep it persistent, Sweetie. Keep persistent. Yeah, keep it persistent.

985
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:47,800
Speaker 2: Cool.

986
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:51,359
Speaker 1: So, Chrey, what would be yours your takeaway for this week?

987
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 2: Keep it focused, Sweetie.

988
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 1: There we go, Keep it focused, Sweety. There you have it, guys.

989
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for tuning to this episode of

990
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 1: Keep It Positive. Sweety. If you want to write into

991
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 1: our open listener letter, you can write in to Keep

992
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 1: It Posisweetye at gmail dot com and that's Sweetye with

993
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 1: an Ie. You can also follow me on all platforms

994
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 1: at love Chris Orne on Instagram and Twitter and TikTok

995
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 1: all the things. Try to tell the people where they

996
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 1: can find you are even back on it because you insta.

997
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 2: Instagram is at trip with three ps t R I

998
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 2: P P P. You follow me on.

999
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 1: There, okay, So makes sure you guys follow him. Check

1000
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 1: out the newest season of VMF, which is out right now.

1001
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:31,799
Speaker 1: If you haven't caught on the other ones, make sure

1002
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 1: you catch up on all of them. Trey. I'm so

1003
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 1: proud of you, Trey. Thank you so much for stopping by.

1004
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 1: I'm inspired by your story. I hope you guys are

1005
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 1: inspired as well. Take this into your week with you.

1006
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 1: I love you guys in the meantime, in between time

1007
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 1: you know what to do. Keep it pods as sweetye door.

1008
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for this day. Thank you for

1009
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 1: this opportunity to just bring your glory to other people.

1010
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 1: Dear God, thank you for everyone in this room. Thank

1011
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 1: you for their talent. I ask that you just be

1012
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 1: with us today. Let us have fun, let us be

1013
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 1: an amazing interview. Thank you for letting you Nora make

1014
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 1: it here safely. Thank you for trade making here safely.

1015
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:16,839
Speaker 1: And why am as well? We do not take it

1016
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 1: for granted. Dear Lord and Jesus. Then we pray Amen