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Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, radio News. I'm Hannah Elliott and

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Speaker 1: I'm Matt Miller.

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Speaker 2: This is Hot Pursuit.

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Speaker 1: Coming up on today's podcast. We have the new head

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Speaker 1: of Miami Formula One, Katerina Novack, with us, and I'm

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Speaker 1: very curious to hear hear what she has to say.

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Speaker 1: This is the fifth fifth year for the race, so

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Speaker 1: it's kind of a big deal. First race on American soil,

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Speaker 1: and Matt Scott issues So think we can ask Skatterina

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Speaker 1: about that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I have issues with that one. But I'm excited

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Speaker 2: to go down to Miami. You're gonna go to Miami.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to bring my entire television production crew to

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Speaker 2: Miami because we're doing my live show from Miami as

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Speaker 2: well as you and I are recording our podcast from Miami.

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Speaker 2: So it's it's kind of like a big deal, like

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Speaker 2: New York goes out. Yeah, so I'm looking forward to that. Plus, Hannah,

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Speaker 2: I gotta say, I have driven a slew of cars

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Speaker 2: that have given me really interesting back to back comparisons.

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Speaker 1: So is this about EV's.

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Speaker 2: So it kind of is about EV's in a sense.

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Speaker 2: On the one hand, I drove the key of EV

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Speaker 2: nine again, which you know is a fantastic appliance. But

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Speaker 2: right after that the Subaru BRZ with a stick and

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Speaker 2: I felt like, you know, they couldn't be on more

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Speaker 2: opposite ends of the spectrum for two vehicles. Then I

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Speaker 2: drove the Lucid Air, as you know, and right after

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Speaker 2: that I got into the BMW I seven, so an

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Speaker 2: electric seven series, and the comparisons between like those two pairs,

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Speaker 2: I think we're we're really incredible. So we can talk

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Speaker 2: a little bit about that.

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Speaker 1: Oh, we got to talk about that. And we have

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Speaker 1: been promising a nail bag session for a few weeks,

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Speaker 1: so I think we should get to some mail from

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Speaker 1: our readers, because we really do appreciate hearing from you guys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we absolutely do have to go through. I'm behind

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Speaker 2: on so many of my emails and it'll be great

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Speaker 2: to catch up on that, and hopefully we can get

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Speaker 2: people to write in more and give us some ideas

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Speaker 2: for things to do on the podcast, people to interview

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Speaker 2: on the podcast, cars to drive for the podcast, and

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Speaker 2: you know, we can complain about the fact that there

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Speaker 2: aren't enough stick shift automobiles.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, always constantly.

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Speaker 2: So the thing is, so we're going to talk to

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Speaker 2: the head of F one Miami, right and I need to,

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Speaker 2: I think, temper myself because I realized I was on

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Speaker 2: a prep call with Matia Bnoto's team from Audi. He's

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Speaker 2: the AUTI team principle used to be with Ferrari obviously forever,

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Speaker 2: and I started complaining about F one to his team

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Speaker 2: and I thought, I'm way too emotionally invested in this.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why, but it just makes me so

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Speaker 2: him happy that they have this d system.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Andrew, the one who says you're not a you're

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Speaker 2: F one, I know, but I was thinking, like, literally last.

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Speaker 1: Week you said he didn't like it, you only like

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Speaker 1: Moto GP. But then when you get on the call,

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Speaker 1: you actually do care.

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Speaker 2: Well, I care because so I was. So I was

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Speaker 2: going through Benodo's resume, and this guy is fascinating because

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Speaker 2: he's an Italian guy that I think grew up in

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Speaker 2: He was there for the Schumacher years also, so he

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Speaker 2: it was like all you could think about all week

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Speaker 2: It just mattered so much, and it was like Moto GP.

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Speaker 2: And to compare that with today when they like slow

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Speaker 2: I don't know why.

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Speaker 1: For someone who says that he does he's not into it,

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Speaker 2: I think I'm just Also, it's my age, right, I'm

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Speaker 2: it's it's so much more interesting because you've got many

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Speaker 2: it's like I want these guys to drive as fast

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Speaker 1: Well you should really ask Katerina about this when we

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Speaker 1: get on with her, because I know that she grew

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Speaker 1: she you know, she's coming from this long, long standing

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't wait to get her take on it.

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Speaker 2: But of course, as the head of F one Miami, like,

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Speaker 2: she's obviously gonna be drinking the cool way. Yeah, she

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Speaker 2: has to be on the team, even if, even if

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Speaker 2: she can't publicly say that.

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Speaker 1: Well, how did mister Bonodo's team respond to your ranting?

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Speaker 2: They were like offended and everybody on the whole call.

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Speaker 2: They were like five people from his team on the call,

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Speaker 2: and it was like everybody everybody was and everybody was

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Speaker 2: like thirty or less right, So they were all thinking like,

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Speaker 2: oh man, yes, guy gasket exactly exactly.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, what can you do. You're entitled to

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Speaker 2: So you know, I'm going to leave before the race.

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Speaker 2: I'm going down to Miami on Wednesday, and.

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Speaker 1: Then you're doing a hardcore thing. You're doing a turn

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Speaker 2: So I'm gonna do with you. I'm going to do

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Speaker 2: went from Goldman Sachs City. Yeah, but I was I

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I agree. And we've talked about this before.

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Speaker 2: It's different in different sports, right because in basketball, basketball

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Speaker 2: I can afford Knicks tickets or someone generously gives them

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Speaker 2: Both are fine. Like tennis, I love to watch either way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we should. We should get that on our schedule.

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Speaker 1: We should podcast from the Island Man.

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Speaker 2: We should do that. By the way, I was talking

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Speaker 2: And I'm down to go to the Raptor Rally in

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Speaker 2: October and do it. Yeah, apparently like there will be

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Speaker 2: other people there, Danny Riccardo might might be there, and

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Speaker 2: we could do our podcast from there.

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Speaker 1: Oh, let's do it. This could be our Lament for

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Speaker 1: the year instead of Lamon, we do the Raptor Rally.

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Speaker 2: True, but well, I don't think we should skip Lamar though.

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Speaker 2: I was talking. I'm down a couple weeks ago. Jose Munos,

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Speaker 2: the CEO of Hyundai, came into the studio in New York,

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Speaker 2: and you know they're going into World Endurance Class racing,

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Speaker 2: so he invited us to Lament already. You know, if

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Speaker 2: we if we need a team with which to tag along.

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Speaker 1: We've had a couple people ask if we're going to

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Speaker 1: Lamon and I always say, I don't know, maybe we should.

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Speaker 2: All right, those are my f one concerns. When we

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Speaker 2: come back, we'll talk with Katerina Novak from Formula one

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Speaker 1: ILLOK, a little bit about your background. We know the

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Speaker 1: Austrey a bit a little bit and sounds like you

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Speaker 1: luxury experience and also making it accessible like to quote

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Speaker 1: unquote normal race fans. Obviously there is some balance to

436
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 1: be had, and maybe luxury looks different in different ways.

437
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 1: Talk a little bit about that.

438
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, look, I think for us, most importantly, it's the

439
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,800
Speaker 3: it's listening to the consumer and what the consumer wants, right,

440
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,240
Speaker 3: And so you're absolutely right that there is a balance,

441
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,400
Speaker 3: because there is a consumer that wants to literally never

442
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 3: walk through a ga path and just come in, walk

443
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:33,680
Speaker 3: into their hospitality experience is see the race and leave

444
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,159
Speaker 3: and never be seen by a single person, right, So me,

445
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,880
Speaker 3: it's me, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that would be me too.

446
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,359
Speaker 3: But you cater to that type of client, and then

447
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 3: of course you have you have the other complete opposite

448
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:45,840
Speaker 3: at scale that just you know, wants to come and

449
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:49,639
Speaker 3: experience everything, roam around on our entire campus and enjoy

450
00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 3: it at that for a price you're talking about. So

451
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:56,080
Speaker 3: one of the things we did about last year was

452
00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,880
Speaker 3: we started single day tickets, which was general just listening

453
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,080
Speaker 3: to feedback from our fans about the fact that they

454
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 3: might not want to come all three days and a

455
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 3: one day ticket at a much affordable price might be

456
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,639
Speaker 3: something that they're really interested in. And so we have

457
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 3: seventy five dollars tickets for Friday for you to come

458
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:16,200
Speaker 3: and experience the race, and then of course we scale

459
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,440
Speaker 3: that up all the way and we have a ticket

460
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 3: price for everything in between that. So it's a fine balance.

461
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 3: But then even for that seventy five dollars ticket, you know,

462
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 3: you're sitting in a grand stand on our campus, You've

463
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 3: got you get to experience the entirety of our campus.

464
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 3: You know, at other grand prix, it's very it's very

465
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,880
Speaker 3: common that you're actually only sectioned into a zone within

466
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 3: the racetrack, And it was very important for us from

467
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,639
Speaker 3: the beginning that you've got an experience where you can

468
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 3: It's almost like Disney World. You can walk around everywhere,

469
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 3: and every type of zone you walk into gives you

470
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 3: a new identity, a new experience, new entertainment, new programming,

471
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,119
Speaker 3: new food and beverage, all that kind of stuff. So

472
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:57,120
Speaker 3: from our perspective, it was all about kind of balancing

473
00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 3: that but also touching adding luxury touch points through through

474
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Speaker 3: it all.

475
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 2: I want to come and for the I mean, I'm

476
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:06,639
Speaker 2: happy to watch the race on TV. Hannah and I

477
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:08,679
Speaker 2: always talk about the fact that when we do races,

478
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 2: we just want to see from the flag drop until

479
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,120
Speaker 2: the flag at the end. I just want to see

480
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 2: the best view. But I want to come to see

481
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 2: I want to try all the food, I want to

482
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,119
Speaker 2: see all the concerts you put on. I want to

483
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 2: see the celebrities there. I want to see the art installations.

484
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,399
Speaker 2: I want to like go shopping at the brands that

485
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 2: are active, like I would want to do. Three days

486
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 2: wouldn't be enough for me. I would want to come

487
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 2: for a week. Do you guys leave some of that

488
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 2: stuff in place? Like I can't get to every restaurant

489
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,439
Speaker 2: in just a few days. So does it does it longer?

490
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,120
Speaker 2: Does it start early and linger later?

491
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Speaker 3: You know, I really wish that that was the case,

492
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,919
Speaker 3: because you know, I drive around as we're building up

493
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,440
Speaker 3: now on a nightly basis, and I'm seeing the like

494
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:56,160
Speaker 3: magnitude of this build and I, you know, I think

495
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 3: to myself, like there's a there's another level of crazy

496
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,119
Speaker 3: going on here that we build this all up for

497
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 3: three days and we take it all down. So while

498
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 3: I wish that we could goes back to Hardrock Stadium

499
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 3: and the venue that we have, and you know, four

500
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 3: weeks after this Grand Prix will be completely loaded out

501
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:16,399
Speaker 3: and we will transform this campus back to a FIFA

502
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 3: venue for World Club World Cup Games this summer. So

503
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,200
Speaker 3: while while I wish we could leave it up, unfortunately

504
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,640
Speaker 3: that's not quite the case here at hard Rock Stadium.

505
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 2: It's brutal, brutal the time, brutalized online the circus moving

506
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:33,719
Speaker 2: is brutal.

507
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know what, I think a little bit

508
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:40,200
Speaker 3: of that is also just programmed into the form of

509
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,200
Speaker 3: the world of Formula one, Right you think about that

510
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,680
Speaker 3: that that's really the case everywhere at twenty four races

511
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 3: around the world. You know, some of them obviously have

512
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 3: permanent facilities, but a lot of them don't. And you know,

513
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 3: the teams pack up all their kits in their garages

514
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 3: and their cars and their team hospitality and they you know,

515
00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 3: transfer to the next So it's a it's really the

516
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 3: just the logistical operation that Formula one is. It's it's

517
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 3: it's it's an impressive beast.

518
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,160
Speaker 1: Do you feel like this year there are extra eyes

519
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,440
Speaker 1: on the race at all because it's the first race

520
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 1: in the US on the calendar, and also we have

521
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 1: like an Americ quote unquote an American team. Obviously we

522
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:21,359
Speaker 1: had team has but Cadillac joining is like, you know,

523
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 1: for to some extent, although Cadillac would argue with that

524
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,360
Speaker 1: because we have out out you know too. I mean,

525
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 1: are there is there extra hype this year? Because of

526
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 1: these new entrants or or not necessarily is.

527
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 3: This we we definitely felt an uptick in demand and

528
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 3: hype this year than we have seen compared to last year.

529
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 3: I think it's your credit goes to Formula one and

530
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,119
Speaker 3: how they've continued to you know, boost the sport in

531
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 3: the United States. We see, you know, the success that

532
00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:00,440
Speaker 3: the Apple movie had, and uh, you know, we see

533
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 3: it in our attendance numbers that you know, more and

534
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 3: more of our attendees are not only like from the US,

535
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 3: but also from the state of Florida. So while and

536
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 3: all these things like, they're all adding to generate more

537
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 3: excitement around the race. So we're very excited to be

538
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 3: the first American race on the calendar and to welcome

539
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 3: everyone back from a four from a four week break

540
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 3: of course adds to that level of excitement from everyone

541
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 3: that wants to like just get back to racing, right.

542
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 3: So I think from that perspective, we're expecting a really

543
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 3: big weekend, But it doesn't really change our plans in

544
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 3: anything that we're doing, because ultimately we start planning right

545
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 3: after the GPS over for the entire year. We've been

546
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 3: executing our plans now for the last couple of months. So,

547
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 3: you know, I think all of the additional levels Cadillac,

548
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 3: the you know, Apple coming on board, their activations, and

549
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 3: how they're investing in this sport, all of those pieces

550
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 3: all add up to just like an increased level of

551
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 3: excitement and demand in the US for Formula one.

552
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 1: Yeah.

553
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 2: We actually we were going through our mail bag here

554
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 2: and one of the people who rode in, Bill C.

555
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 2: I'll just call him, says that this is the first

556
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 2: year that he's interested because Cadillac and Audi are involved,

557
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 2: and he's watched Drive to Survive and he previously was

558
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 2: into IndyCar and he said that they are doing great

559
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 2: with Fox. But you remind me, and Bill reminds me

560
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 2: that Apple is making this more accessible to any everyone

561
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 2: than it ever has been in America at least. Do

562
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 2: you work closely with them? I mean, are they also

563
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 2: going to be working around the clock for these three

564
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 2: days to broadcast as much as they can from Miami.

565
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, So we've got a great relationship with them. They've

566
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 3: jumped in since that, you know, the news broke that

567
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 3: they were going to take over the broadcast rights in

568
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 3: the United States, and it's been really fun to see

569
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 3: how they're leaning in on more than just you know,

570
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 3: Apple TV. I think I'm not sure if you've you've

571
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 3: checked Apple Maps lately, but they've started updating track maps

572
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 3: for every track and so ours super cool. Ours just

573
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 3: went live a couple of days ago, and you can

574
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 3: actually see an updated, like up like overlay and track

575
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 3: like track map of everything that we're doing this year,

576
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 3: which is just incredible. So it's been really fun to

577
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 3: see how they're continuing to bring in more of their

578
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 3: entities and more of their business platforms to continue to

579
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:38,479
Speaker 3: help amplify their their partnership and investment in Formula One.

580
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 1: That's so cool. Can you give us any insight into

581
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 1: how ticket sales are doing compared to last year?

582
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean we are expected to be sold out

583
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 3: here in the next couple of days, so we are

584
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 3: tracking and pacing above where we were last year, which

585
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 3: is really exciting. But again, it just continues to speak

586
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 3: to that level of demand and excitement we're seeing for

587
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 3: Formula one racing in the United States this year, so

588
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 3: it's all been really encouraging. I think part of that

589
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 3: also has to do with the fact that I think

590
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 3: we're heading into now our fifth year of hosting this

591
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 3: Grand Prix, and there's a level of establishment that we've

592
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 3: now kind of hit in not only the F one calendar,

593
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 3: but also within the industry and also within just the

594
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 3: local self florid of community. So it's you know, we're

595
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 3: we're now a major staple on the calendar, but also

596
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 3: within all the other events that happened to Miami. You know,

597
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 3: everyone's aware that the Miami Grand Prix is back first

598
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 3: week in May. So it feels it feels good. We're

599
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 3: a week, i think almost six days out now from

600
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 3: opening gates, and it feels it feels good.

601
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Speaker 2: I have to say, this is the first time I've

602
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 2: ever gotten goosebumps looking at Apple Maps. I just opened

603
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 2: it up, Catherine, and it is so cool to like,

604
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 2: you zoom into the hard Rocks Stadium and there's the

605
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 2: track and it shows you. It illustrates every turn, it

606
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 2: shows you where your arena is, the F one fan zone.

607
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is awesome. It's super cool. It's it's it's honestly,

608
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 3: it's just been interesting to see how they, you know,

609
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 3: can app actually amplify what they're doing with all the

610
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 3: other business platforms. I mean, it's it's there's more coming.

611
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 3: I'm sure that we don't even know about yet. So

612
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 3: it's just exciting to see how they're going to continue

613
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 3: to lean in.

614
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 2: It's for a fan, so sorry, but this is so

615
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 2: helpful because like if I'm in the lofts and I

616
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 2: want to go to like the hard Rock Beach Club,

617
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 2: or if i want to go to like the audi uh.

618
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 3: Fantasy, like you're seeing, you're seeing all the all the

619
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 3: bits and pieces of the campus. Now you know exactly

620
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 3: what's what's going on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so cool. Sorry, Annah, Yeah, that's fine.

622
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 1: I I I know we have the letter letter run loose.

623
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Speaker 1: But my last question for you, Katerina was where are

624
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 1: you going to watch the race? Are you going to

625
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 1: be up at a tower somewhere or like down walking

626
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 1: around putting out fires?

627
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 3: You know, hopefully there are no fires for me to

628
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 3: put out on race weekend. That means everything's going smoothly

629
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 3: and we're able to enjoy and watch the race. My

630
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 3: my mom will be here and my uncle will be

631
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 3: here who actually introduced many years ago. So I plan

632
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 3: to watch the start of the race with them and

633
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 3: then probably have to get back to some meetings with

634
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 3: with all the you know, key stakeholders we have here

635
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 3: at the race, but I plan to watch the start

636
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 3: of the race with them.

637
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 2: We can't let you go without asking you who you're

638
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 2: rooting for. I mean, obviously uncle is part of the

639
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 2: t so I'm guessing you're still a.

640
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 3: Fer fan now, you know what, I root for everybody. Honestly,

641
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 3: I think I think as the you know, as a promoter,

642
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 3: you just want to see all of the teams just

643
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 3: like love what we're doing here. And you know, every

644
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 3: single team has given us so many compliment and has

645
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 3: just been like embraced what we do here. So it's

646
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 3: just been it's been really fun to see how they

647
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 3: enjoy what we execute for them and welcomed us into

648
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 3: into their kind of crazy circus. So all around, all around,

649
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 3: big fans of all of them.

650
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 1: Well that's a very diplomatic answer. Thank you so much

651
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: for joining us, Katerina Novak ahead of F one Miami

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Speaker 1: Grand Prix. We'll see you in a week.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: Excited to see you guys soon.

655
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Speaker 1: That was Katerina Novac, the head of Mimy F one.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to break and when we come back, we'll

657
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Speaker 1: hear about Matt's latest trials and tribulations of driving a

658
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Speaker 1: very random assortment of ours. Welcome back to Hot Pursuit.

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Speaker 1: Now we want to dive into some listener emails. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for emailing us, for writing in. Let's get to it.

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Speaker 2: We Well, I just say we have a ton of emails,

662
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Speaker 2: and I first want to say that we appreciate every

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Speaker 2: single email that we get, like I read all of them,

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Speaker 2: and I try and respond to Yeah. Well no, I

665
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 2: read everyone. Obviously, I try and respond to as many

666
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 2: as I can. I have to catch up a little

667
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 2: bit here, and that's why I think it would be cool.

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00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 2: That's why I thought it would be cool for us

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Speaker 2: to do this mail bag vision, so I can catch

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Speaker 2: up live, you know, on the podcast, so to speak.

671
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 2: One of the coolest, or to me, most interesting emails

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Speaker 2: that we've gotten recently is from a guy I don't

673
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 2: know if I should say his whole name, I'll say

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Speaker 2: Thomas W.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,800
Speaker 2: Tom W wrote in from Buffalo and he says, you know,

677
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 2: he drives a lot for work and he's been listening

678
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 2: to our podcast on these drives. He also has two

679
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 2: kids who are the same age as mine. So he

680
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 2: has two boys, five and two. I have two girls,

681
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 2: five and two. Maybe they can someday get together. But

682
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 2: he's looking for an SUV, high performance SUV that will

683
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Speaker 2: work for like his job and his life at home.

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Speaker 2: He's going to have to put car seats I imagine

685
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Speaker 2: rear facing, because he loves his kids just as much

686
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Speaker 2: as I do. And so that's the first big issue,

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00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 2: right putting Well well wait.

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Speaker 1: Wait, wait, just a second, wait, just a second. You

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Speaker 1: skipped over the best part because he also said, like Hannah,

690
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 1: I'm a millennial. I enjoy running, and I appreciate the

691
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 1: finer things in life. So having real wooden, real leather,

692
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:32,359
Speaker 1: and frameless windows are also important things. Okay, go ahead, right, Well,

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00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 1: that's get skipped over. These are very important. No, you're

694
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Speaker 1: right man.

695
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 2: But and also that he's tall like both of us. Right,

696
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,879
Speaker 2: he's six foot two, which is about the same height

697
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:42,839
Speaker 2: as me, and so he's going to have the same

698
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Speaker 2: problems I imagine that I have. He has a list

699
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 2: of SUVs that he's looking at, and they're all great, right,

700
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 2: the Aston Martin DBX, the Bentley ben Tega as ugly

701
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Speaker 2: as it is, still is cool. The Porsche Khai en GTS.

702
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 2: I think that's probably the bench mark for high performance SUVs.

703
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Speaker 2: He's also gotten out.

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Speaker 1: I disagree with that. I really disagree with that. You

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Speaker 1: driven every one, every one of these. Yes, of course

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't put the Cayenne.

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Speaker 2: All right, let me just finish the list here and

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Speaker 2: I'll say so, Yeah, Audi R s Q eight, which

709
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Speaker 2: is what I mean. I think it's the most stylish

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Speaker 2: one on the list. The Mercedes Benz g L E

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Speaker 2: sixty three MG, and the BMW X six M. Now

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Speaker 2: let me ask you, of that list, which one do

713
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Speaker 2: you think should be the standard Hannah for me?

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Speaker 1: I'm here, I'm here. I'm taking this in very very soon. Now,

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Speaker 1: I think the Lamborghini is the benchmark. And I've said

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Speaker 1: that twice the price of all these, say, just for

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Speaker 1: the rec I'm just saying for the record, now, I

718
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Speaker 1: actually would strongly consider the dB X or the X

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Speaker 1: six M, maybe leaning toward the X six M. Actually,

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Speaker 1: all things considered, drive law, feel, price value, residual value,

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Speaker 1: I would probably give the edge to the xix M.

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Speaker 2: I think I would not. So we should also say

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Speaker 2: he wants to spend about one hundred grand on a

724
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,320
Speaker 2: used vehicle, right, which I think is a sensible amount,

725
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 2: and he could probably grab any of these for that.

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00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 2: To me, the ky Enne or the Audi rs Q

727
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Speaker 2: eight make the most sense. And in terms of style,

728
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Speaker 2: I love the Audi. I love the interior.

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00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:37,760
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say the Audi is the probably

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Speaker 1: the least stylish.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I like I really, I really like the way

732
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Speaker 2: it looks. I think it's to me it's the either

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Speaker 2: that or the Aston Martin are the best looking vehicles

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Speaker 2: on here. But the difference between those is that the

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Speaker 2: Audi has an interior you can actually use all the

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Speaker 2: time and like the enfotainment system will work, and it's

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Speaker 2: the Audi. The powertrain is amazing on the Audi as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the Audi and the Cayenne aren't really

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00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 1: that different. No, the thing about the Audi is it

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Speaker 1: is so calmon. They are really forgettable. And to me,

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Speaker 1: the BMW is actually a little bit more distinctive, a

742
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Speaker 1: little more interesting. It's got an edge, it's got a

743
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Speaker 1: point of view. That is what I would And I

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Speaker 1: think I need to check this because I'm just seeing

745
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Speaker 1: this for the first time, but I think the residual

746
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Speaker 1: values on the X six M are probably stronger then

747
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Speaker 1: for well, for sure the Acid Martin and the Bentley.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, loses a lot of money. Well, I don't know

749
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Speaker 2: about the DBX. I know that the sports cars and

750
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,359
Speaker 2: the GT cars lose a lot of money as soon

751
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:55,320
Speaker 2: as you buy them. But I think you're also bound

752
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 2: to have niggles like issues with the DBX that you

753
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,359
Speaker 2: don't want to have you if this is your work

754
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 2: vehicle as well. The BMW, to me, I'm just not

755
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Speaker 2: I love BMW cars across the range. Every time I

756
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Speaker 2: get in one, and I'm in one right now, I

757
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 2: saiventh for the week, and it's it's really rewarding, but

758
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Speaker 2: I just don't think that they stand out to me

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00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 2: beyond the kienne Is. I mean, it's gonna tick pretty

760
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Speaker 2: much every single box. It's gonna work perfectly all the time,

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Speaker 2: and I don't think you could possibly regret it. The Audi,

762
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Speaker 2: I just love the way the infotainment, the dash comes

763
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Speaker 2: down into the console. But what I was going to

764
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:42,879
Speaker 2: point out earlier is that if you want to put

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Speaker 2: rear facing car seats in the seat behind you tom

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Speaker 2: and then put your seat all the way back, You're

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Speaker 2: never gonna be able to do that. There's just not

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Speaker 2: enough room in these, So you have to either make

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00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 2: the choice between front facing car seats, which I wouldn't

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Speaker 2: recommend for your two year old or a stylish two

771
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Speaker 2: row high performance suv because there just isn't enough room

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Speaker 2: in the second row in any of these.

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Speaker 1: Now, Matt, this is interesting because don't you own a

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Speaker 1: g L E.

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Speaker 2: I have a GLS and that's why.

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Speaker 1: We have a GLS and we exactly want we Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we haven't even touched this Mercedes bins and in the

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00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:28,320
Speaker 1: past three minutes of talking about this question, it's I

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00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 1: think I think that's interesting.

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Speaker 2: Well, to be so, from from my perspective, I just

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Speaker 2: don't know because I haven't driven a g L E

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00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 2: sixty three. I'm sure that they're amazing vehicles, but my

783
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 2: experience with Mercedes has been they will like take an

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00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 2: arm and a leg and you're first born as soon

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00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 2: as you show up at the dealership. Like you know,

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Speaker 2: I think a lot of these high end vehicles, I

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Speaker 2: don't want to single out Mercedes Benz, but they tend

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00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 2: to have a planned obsolescence so that they work perfectly

789
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Speaker 2: for the for the first leaseholder. And then you've got

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00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 2: an air suspension that's thousands to fix. If you need

791
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 2: to change the brakes, that's going to be thousands of dollars.

792
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:16,359
Speaker 2: In mind, the climate control is unfixable by the people

793
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 2: at the Mercedes Manhattan dealership, which is, you know, a

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00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 2: company owned store. So to me, they're just so complicated

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00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 2: that it's just it's too much of a headache. Whereas

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00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 2: I don't know about the Cayenne, but with my nine

797
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:35,839
Speaker 2: to eleven, I had it for ten years and never

798
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 2: had one single mechanical issue like it worked or electrical.

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00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,720
Speaker 2: It worked perfectly the entire time. And I think Portia

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00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 2: has that reputation for reliability that is worth the premium.

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00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:49,839
Speaker 1: And then.

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00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't have an experience Audi for many years,

803
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 2: but I'm sure I feel like they also are going

804
00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 2: to be pretty expensive when you take them the dealership.

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00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 2: That's why I think the Porsche really wins out for me.

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00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I understand that I'm not going to quibble with

807
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 1: you on your statements about the Kyene being reliable and

808
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 1: you know, well made and fast and drives great, et cetera,

809
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,320
Speaker 1: et cetera. I think for me, why I give the

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00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,919
Speaker 1: BMW the edges again, just because it looks a little

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Speaker 1: bit more distinctive, it has a point of view the Cayenne,

812
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 1: and I get that I'm very, very biased because of

813
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 1: where I live. I live, and I drive through Hollywood

814
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 1: and West Hollywood and Beverly Hills, and it's it's a

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00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 1: lot of Cayennes and they really all blend together. To me,

816
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 1: the BMW is a little more distinctive. But also it's

817
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 1: got a little bit of a chip on its shoulder.

818
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 1: And maybe you don't want that. Maybe you don't want

819
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,399
Speaker 1: that edge. You know, people people have things to say

820
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 1: about beam or drivers. Maybe you don't want that. But

821
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Speaker 1: I think it's cool.

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00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:49,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, I mean I haven't. I don't think i've

823
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 2: driven the X six either, so but you know, obviously

824
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 2: I think the X the X five. You could make

825
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 2: the argument that a BMW X five is also the

826
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 2: benchmark in you know, xury SUV's. It's good, but there's

827
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 2: just not a lot of room in the second row.

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00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:08,439
Speaker 2: I mean, even a range rover doesn't have enough room

829
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:12,280
Speaker 2: in the second row. If it's not the long model

830
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:16,360
Speaker 2: to put a rear facing car seat behind a driver's

831
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 2: seat and move your driver's seat all the way back.

832
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 2: It's just tough to find that in a two row suv.

833
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 2: All right, let's move on to another email, because yeah,

834
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 2: so we've got a ton of emails, and one of them,

835
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Speaker 2: a few of them are making fun of my love

836
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 2: for the Nissan Armada. By the way, Tom w check

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Speaker 2: out the Nissan Armada.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you readers for taking my side on this,

839
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Speaker 1: he says.

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Speaker 2: He says, Matt, isn't it interesting that you're willing to

841
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 2: overlook the styling of this car but you won't buy

842
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 2: a car with Frieda Egg headlights, which Tooche Toche. Somehow

843
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 2: I find the Friday Egg headlights on a nine to

844
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 2: nine to six even uglier than any aspect of the

845
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:58,879
Speaker 2: Nissan Armada. I don't know why.

846
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 1: Well, okay, now I have to also just touch on

847
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 1: this email we got from Dean, who has written a

848
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 1: novel in which Lincoln's Cadillacs and Rolls Royce's all play parts,

849
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 1: but foremost among them is a Mercedes been six hundred pullman.

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00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 1: Did you see this email, Matt?

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00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 2: Is it from Dean Oh, Dean C. You're talking about

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00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 2: Dean C?

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00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 1: Because yes, yes, it's The book is called Right of

854
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 1: Your Life, and it's published under our pen name. I

855
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 1: think we can say the pen name, which is Portico Darwin. Yes,

856
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 1: so anybody looking to read a car related book about

857
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 1: actually all five New York crime families.

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00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 2: Which you can get on Amazon and Apple.

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00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 1: Yes, I mean I'm interested. I'm interested in cars become characters.

860
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:55,879
Speaker 2: I'm into it as well. I definitely got to check

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Speaker 2: out and and we've had the emails from Dean before,

862
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,320
Speaker 2: So Dean, thank you so much for listening, thank you

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00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 2: for writing in. Dean C. That is, Dean B. Writes

864
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:08,320
Speaker 2: in to talk about, you know, size creep, which is

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Speaker 2: something that you know, people have been noticing it for

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Speaker 2: a couple of decades now. But he sent a picture

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Speaker 2: of don't I guess this is his garage.

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Speaker 1: And he's got Oh my goodness, I'm seeing it.

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Speaker 2: He's got what looks like a nine to six four

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Speaker 2: or or maybe it's a Carera three point two parked

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Speaker 2: next to a Portia Panamera and the nine to eleven

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Speaker 2: is i mean just dwarfed by the pan America.

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Speaker 1: It looks like an suv parked by a normal car.

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Speaker 1: That's what it looks like.

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Speaker 2: It wild, by the way, you know, the size creep thing.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes I'll see a classic like pony car, like a

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Speaker 2: Mustang on the street. I mean, they really were small.

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Speaker 2: I have to mention one other.

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Speaker 1: J k.

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Speaker 2: Okay, not the dude from Jamiroquai, but somebody else. He said,

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Speaker 2: he and his wife joy our show, and they love

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Speaker 2: it when we talk about EV's and F one. And

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Speaker 2: he was talking about something I said the other day, like,

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Speaker 2: if you're a free market capitalist, which Americans were, you

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Speaker 2: know previously before this current administration, before we became socialists

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Speaker 2: versus protectionists, then what you want the market to choose?

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Speaker 2: And right now the market is saying, wow, and EV

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Speaker 2: is a pretty good idea. And rather than using my

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Speaker 2: taxpayer dollars to subsidize your Tesla purchase, and he's saying,

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Speaker 2: hang on a second, your taxpayer dollars have been sensitizing

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Speaker 2: the oil industry for like our entire history. And I

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Speaker 2: think that's a fair that's a fair point. Obviously, fossil

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Speaker 2: fuel subsidies are and have been a big cost for

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Speaker 2: this country. But you have to understand what we get

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Speaker 2: from that as well. And I mean you could say

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Speaker 2: the same thing about EV's, but we get the dollar

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Speaker 2: as the world reserve currency. I mean, this is all

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Speaker 2: part of the UH Petro dollar agreement. Maybe maybe we

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Speaker 2: don't need.

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Speaker 1: To talk about this is an amazing email. No, it's

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Speaker 1: a did you did you email JK back?

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Speaker 2: No, see, I got to catch up on these things,

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Speaker 2: so I'm gonna I'm going to email him back.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a great email.

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Speaker 2: I agree, Yeah, I agree, it's an interesting discussion.

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Speaker 1: Maybe a shout out. Yeah, I mean thanks thanks JK

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Speaker 1: for this amazing email where it takes us a minute

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Speaker 1: to digest it, but we are digesting it. I would

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Speaker 1: say that I'm.

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Speaker 2: Going to go this weekend as I sit and uh

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Speaker 2: and watch Moto GP is in head f there in

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Speaker 2: herez Spain this weekend. So as I watch, starting with

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Speaker 2: the free practice and heading through to the final race

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Speaker 2: on Sundale, I'll answer all the emails.

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Speaker 1: All right, well, I'll be in the UK where I'm

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Speaker 1: currently at and I've just had a wonder, Wait, what

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Speaker 1: are you driving?

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Speaker 2: Their hands Castle? What are you guys driving around?

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Speaker 1: N MG A rental MG from six cars and it's yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's it's great. It's actually it was cheaper to rent

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Speaker 1: a car. We planned to take the train because we

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Speaker 1: flew into London and it was actually cheaper to rent

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Speaker 1: a car, cheaper and faster, so we did that. But

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Speaker 1: today we were on a coach tour with Andrew's Coach Tours,

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Speaker 1: which was amazing. It was totally stress free because you know,

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Speaker 1: driving in the UK with all of their cameras and

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Speaker 1: speed limits is.

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Speaker 2: Not wrong side of the road and everything.

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Speaker 1: It's honestly not fine.

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Speaker 2: Yeah but wait coach. So a coach tour is a bus, right,

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Speaker 2: it's a yeah.

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Speaker 1: It's a bus. And we were definitely the youngest ones

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Speaker 1: on the bus by probably fifteen, fifteen or twenty years

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Speaker 1: and it was awesome. We went with Magnus's mom and

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Speaker 1: her friend Hillary and saw this old fourteenth century castle.

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Speaker 1: It was wonderful. On the way back we hit they

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Speaker 1: were pouring gin and on the bus nice. It was

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Speaker 1: very British. Yeah, it was kind of great.

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Speaker 2: That's excellent.

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Speaker 1: Highly recommend, do you guys.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know if there's any kind of

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Speaker 2: Turo there, but we've been focused on rental car stocks

943
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Speaker 2: on the show because Avis has gone through the sun

944
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Speaker 2: up and down. But and I was thinking, like, I

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Speaker 2: don't I don't use rental car companies anymore. I used

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Speaker 2: Turo everywhere I go in America, right, Oh, I've.

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Speaker 1: I've only used Turo once and that was to rent

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Speaker 1: the cyber truck for a review, and that was a

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Speaker 1: good experience. But yes, yeah, but I've never done it since.

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Speaker 2: Oh I use it all the time. I just when

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Speaker 2: I was down in Austin. I you know, every time

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Speaker 2: I see a range Rover on bring a trailer, I'm tempted.

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Speaker 2: Even though everyone in the world has bought a used

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Speaker 2: range Rover for cheap and then lost way more money.

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Speaker 1: On the main, it seems like a nightmare.

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Speaker 2: It does seem like an but so I so I

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Speaker 2: rented one in Austin. I think it was like a

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Speaker 2: twenty nineteen full blood range Rover, and now I don't

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Speaker 2: really want one anymore.

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Speaker 1: You know. Good, So this was a success.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Actually I had a fine I had a fine

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Speaker 2: time with it.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: It had the Supercharge five leader motor, which was okay,

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Speaker 2: but it just it doesn't compare to to my niece

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Speaker 2: on Armada, my nizmo.

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