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Speaker 1: That's right, Enter, it is the Odd Couple. Colvin Washington,

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Speaker 1: Rob G who is in for Rob P who at

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Speaker 1: this point starting think Rob G doesn't want to produce anymore?

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Speaker 1: Is that what it is? Is that what's going on?

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Speaker 1: Rob G? You've given up on that side of the glass.

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Speaker 1: This is just sining. You know I do breaking news

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Speaker 1: every day, right, you know I do that. That's right, folks,

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Speaker 1: we have breaking news, Rob G said, Rob peace out

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Speaker 1: and left the other side of the glass. Rob G's

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Speaker 1: in on this worship Wednesday. Rob is still out on

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Speaker 1: vacation and we got Jesse Newell coming up Kansas City

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Speaker 1: Chiefs beat reporter for the Athletic. There's some news obviously

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Speaker 1: coming out of there for shehre right, Rashi Rice we'll

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Speaker 1: get to that, and just a little bit. Also, Michael

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Speaker 1: Fabiano gonna join a Sports Illustrated senior fantasy analysts. And

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Speaker 1: by the way, Rob g we talked about that a

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Speaker 1: little earlier. I had stopped doing fantasy for a couple

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Speaker 1: of years, start having all these kids and jobs, and

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Speaker 1: jump back in. I'm gonna find me up. I know, no,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna jump back in. I'm gonna find me. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna find me a squad somewhere, one of my mini jobs,

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Speaker 1: back in the fantasy world as well. Then we're gonna

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Speaker 1: do ones. Gotta go looking forward to that, uh so.

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Speaker 1: And then R J. Young also in the last hour,

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Speaker 1: be around nine to twenty for the East, six to

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Speaker 1: twenty for us here in the West, Fox Sports and

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Speaker 1: National College Football analysts. We got college football action, some

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Speaker 1: big games happening this weekend, one in particular that of

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Speaker 1: course everybody's gonna be watching, so a whole lot to

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Speaker 1: get to on this worship Wednesday. Let me welcome in

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Speaker 1: my partner. He is, rob G, what's up? Rob G?

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Speaker 1: Shout out to Manzi. That's me, No, that's Monzi. How

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Speaker 1: did Monty hijack thing? Because she does it more often

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Speaker 1: than you do. She does get excited. I can't even

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Speaker 1: touch the doorhandle. Ready over the door, like okay, all right,

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Speaker 1: all right, Manzi shout to MONSI should be here shortly

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Speaker 1: as well. We got Patty Patrick is uh producing for

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Speaker 1: you since you want to be on this side of

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Speaker 3: Patrick also produced the previous show. Secretly is that him

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Speaker 3: and Brandon had this conversation off the air. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: heard that was so riveting. It dominated an entire segment

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Speaker 3: of the last show too.

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Speaker 1: That and then and if you told me, if you

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Speaker 1: just would have called me, it absolutely fits richie Veto

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Speaker 1: could be no one rich. It was great. It absolutely fits.

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Speaker 1: It fits them too. So Patrick's in the building, the

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Speaker 1: dumbest conversation. So much content coming out of Patrick today,

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Speaker 1: just content. It wasn't out of him. Patrick did, by

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Speaker 1: the way he would want to call it. He big

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Speaker 1: dogged me what I said, Hey, what's up? Patrick? He said,

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Speaker 1: what's up? Calvin? I said, how you doing? I said, hey, Man,

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Speaker 1: that it? Hed he can do it? Before I even asked,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, so this is what it is. He moves

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Speaker 1: it felt like reverse racism. It felt like I don't

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Speaker 1: know what it was. I thought. I joked into Dolori

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Speaker 1: and it went back to nineteen forty seven or something.

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Speaker 1: That man looked me in my mind's like, no, get

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Speaker 1: somebody else to do it. I gotta sit in here,

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Speaker 1: he said, put the camera on me. I ain't doing it.

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Speaker 1: Put the camera on me. Keep going now you're telling

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Speaker 1: me Lebron James Kelvin, Washington Kelvin, that man Rob g

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Speaker 3: I hate it so much that I hated so much

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Speaker 3: All the Top and Fox Sports Radio since it's inception. No,

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Speaker 3: I haven't, but pretty damn long. I never had a

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Speaker 1: That sounded like a you problem. I was, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: was upset. Okay, well, do you mind if I get

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Speaker 1: to Elijah. It's something you want to tell me about Elijah.

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Speaker 1: Elijah's in the building. He is gonna be on Elijah.

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Speaker 1: we got some Kansas City Chief conversations to be had.

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Speaker 1: The gabbling drop. The jury had spoken, the judge reported

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Speaker 1: and made it known that Rashi Rice is gonna have

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Speaker 1: a six game suspension right off the bat. And if

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Speaker 1: of weeks ago, we were talking about where is it

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Speaker 1: gonna start with this. That is a massive blow for

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Speaker 1: deep dive into the numbers, they were horrible in one factor,

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Speaker 1: what I mean. The Chiefs weren't great when you're talking

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Speaker 1: couple of seasons. So from that end, getting Rashid Rice

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Speaker 1: And so I think Patrick Mahomes is ready for this.

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes wants and desires, and they can move forward.

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Speaker 1: He can be even bigger and better and then if

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Speaker 1: you can just ride it out those first six weeks,

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Speaker 1: I'll even go as low as three and three. Four

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Speaker 1: But I look at this ass boom. Now we got

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Speaker 1: I don't expect this to be a major major blow

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Speaker 1: for them. I think they've been built for this. And

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Speaker 1: this with rock Perty. He said, man, I was putting

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Speaker 1: even see it some of his own coaches, some outside execs,

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Speaker 3: You're talking like I'm saying they're gonna miss the playoffs

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Speaker 1: for three. Okay, all right, all right, you got one.

432
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Speaker 5: I got one as long as I'm not commissioner because

433
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Speaker 5: I'm commissioning to.

434
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Speaker 1: See that's what happened. I was the commissioner for thirteen

435
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Speaker 1: fourteen years, rob g and I got tired of it.

436
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Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah I had a kid, Yeah you had

437
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Speaker 1: another one, Yeah, I had another one in the twenty twenties.

438
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Speaker 1: Roight she nobody has three kids in the twenty twenties.

439
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Speaker 1: What am I doing? Miss Mary Mac? Three kids in

440
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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty is like six in the eighties. Keep

441
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Speaker 1: that energy away from me to in the eighties. You're young,

442
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Speaker 1: you might get up there. And then I had another

443
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Speaker 1: job the way her jawge is dropping. And then I

444
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Speaker 1: had another job, and so I had to fall back

445
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Speaker 1: for a few years, come out two or three years.

446
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Speaker 1: So now I'm like, you know what, I want to

447
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Speaker 1: get my fantasy back on. My wife said what I say,

448
00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:58,080
Speaker 1: hold on, baby, I met football, and so you don't

449
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Speaker 1: expect me to part taking any of that weird stuff. No, no, no,

450
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Speaker 1: my mom will joined Kelvin. I swear, I swear my

451
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Speaker 1: mam will joined. No No, So to your mom, we are.

452
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Speaker 1: We're forming our own relationship without Bomas. We do.

453
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Speaker 4: So.

454
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Speaker 1: Yeah, kitub Live hit you boy, if you if you

455
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Speaker 1: got a league, I might be interested in enjoying it.

456
00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:14,280
Speaker 1: I don't want to get back. I gotta hit the

457
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Speaker 1: other station up to the Spectrum News one. I got

458
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Speaker 1: to talk to them too. I got a few days

459
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Speaker 1: to make this happen all right on the other side,

460
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Speaker 1: So we got one's got to go to the bottom

461
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Speaker 1: of the hour. We're looking forward to that and then

462
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Speaker 1: next hour our Jay Young Fox Sports national college football analysts,

463
00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:26,960
Speaker 1: as we got some big games coming up over the

464
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Speaker 1: weekend as well. All right, let's let's talk about this one. Uh,

465
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Speaker 1: the Bears have been If the Browns have dominated, the

466
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Speaker 1: Cowboys have dominated, I would argue maybe the Bears have

467
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Speaker 1: been the third biggest story. Ken Brown's medalist for sure. Yeah,

468
00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,760
Speaker 1: they're the bronze medalists. Hey, they still meddled, and that

469
00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,120
Speaker 1: is because Ben Johnson, first time head coach over there,

470
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Speaker 1: and obviously Kayler William former Heisman winner, second year. This year,

471
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Speaker 1: folks want to see more from him. Uh, let's just

472
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Speaker 1: talk about the way we are right now. Rober, you

473
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Speaker 1: I have you break it down the latest with the potential.

474
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Speaker 1: You gotta report that. Don't be scared. Don't be scared.

475
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Speaker 1: It's not crazy for there to be a situation said

476
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Speaker 1: where Caleb might get benched.

477
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Speaker 3: Yeah, which is crazy because the person who said it

478
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Speaker 3: is not a guy like me, who's, you know, watching

479
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Speaker 3: from Afar. It's not a guy like you was watching

480
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Speaker 3: from Afar. It is a guy who's in the building

481
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Speaker 3: every single day. Bears Beat reporter Dan Wheeder or The Athletic,

482
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Speaker 3: did an interview in Chicago on Monday, and he was

483
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Speaker 3: talking about the situation with the team, more specifically as

484
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Speaker 3: it relates to the Ben Johnson Caleb Williams marriage, which

485
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Speaker 3: publicly from the outside looking in doesn't seem great. You know,

486
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Speaker 3: but we're not there every day, we don't know for sure.

487
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Speaker 3: During the conversation, Wheeter said something that really blew people's minds.

488
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Speaker 3: And here's what he said. Quote, I don't think this

489
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Speaker 3: head coach is just gonna sit around on his hands

490
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Speaker 3: and go, you know, we're just gonna give Caleb forever

491
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Speaker 3: to meet and reach the checkpoints we've set out for him.

492
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Speaker 3: And so because you now have a QB two Entyson

493
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Speaker 3: bagent that everyone in the building believes in and continues

494
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Speaker 3: to show significant progress from where he was too plus

495
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Speaker 3: years ago when he walked into the building. That conversation

496
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Speaker 3: talking about going from Williams to Beijing isn't one that

497
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Speaker 3: Chicago should be scared of the idea again, to summarize

498
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Speaker 3: the idea is what he's saying, the idea that the

499
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Speaker 3: Bears could have a quarterback controversy in year one of

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Speaker 3: the Ben Johnson era.

501
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Speaker 1: Don't be scared. Don't be scared your thoughts all right.

502
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Speaker 1: So here here's why I want to break this down.

503
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Speaker 1: You have a coach and Ben Johnson who is a

504
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Speaker 1: first timer in the NFL, which stands for a couple

505
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Speaker 1: of things will come the no Fun League but also

506
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Speaker 1: known as the not for long League, stepily for coaches.

507
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Speaker 1: And Ben Johnson's coming to a situation where he inherits

508
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Speaker 1: a Heisman Trophy winner who everybody said he is the

509
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Speaker 1: next thing since Andrew Luck and the talent is there

510
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Speaker 1: clearly to the tune of a Heisman But also we've

511
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Speaker 1: just been able to see make some throws, he's able

512
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Speaker 1: to run. You're like, man, the talent is there. We

513
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Speaker 1: have to work on the intangibles and the other things.

514
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Speaker 1: But I think this is why this this is either

515
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Speaker 1: gonna work or could be volatile, because if you got

516
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Speaker 1: the guy and Ben Johnson, who can extract the most

517
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Speaker 1: from Caleb, who can expect the most from of Caleb,

518
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Speaker 1: who can say, yeah, I know you can do all

519
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Speaker 1: that the sandlot backyard football, You've got that. You've been

520
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,920
Speaker 1: able to do that since probably Pop Warner all the

521
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Speaker 1: way up the high school to college and now the pros.

522
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Speaker 1: That doesn't work like that now. The issue is you

523
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Speaker 1: pair the two improvisation making stuff happen, superman kind of

524
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Speaker 1: guy with a system, timing, precision guy. So they either

525
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Speaker 1: got to find a way to meet leaning towards the middle,

526
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Speaker 1: maybe a little bit more towards Ben Johnson, or it's

527
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Speaker 1: just not gonna work because this is what Ben Johnson

528
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Speaker 1: had been dealing with. You know what Jared Goff's completion

529
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Speaker 1: percentage was last year? What was it? Seventy two o

530
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Speaker 1: g wow for the season, not a game, not a division,

531
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Speaker 1: not a player. Seventy two point four before that sixty

532
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Speaker 1: seven sixty five sixty seven sixty seven cent. So my

533
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 1: point is he's used to and more important than just

534
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Speaker 1: the completion percentage, it's the timing, it's the precision. And

535
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Speaker 1: you know what the beauty of knowing your weaknesses are.

536
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 1: You know what you can and can't do right. Jared

537
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Speaker 1: Goff knows if this play doesn't work. He's got that

538
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Speaker 1: old school Peyton manning. What is that member? Peyton would

539
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Speaker 1: just fall before you can even hit me. Hi boom

540
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Speaker 1: one two, He's not drop. You're not even gonna sack me. Now,

541
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Speaker 1: canna put your hands on me? Next play? Yep. Jared

542
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Speaker 1: Goff is built like that precision timing. Who's open accuracy? Okay,

543
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Speaker 1: get it out, but let's move us go. And that

544
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Speaker 1: was how that offense ran. Ben Johnson ran a top

545
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Speaker 1: five offense for his entire time with the Lions, number

546
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Speaker 1: one last year in offense. So what I'm saying is

547
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Speaker 1: he's used to a certain way, and I think there's

548
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Speaker 1: a level of frustration, and he's also used to a

549
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Speaker 1: guy in Jared Goff who had been what cast off. Yeah,

550
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Speaker 1: you got us to a super Bowl, but it wasn't you.

551
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,240
Speaker 1: It was us. We're good enough without you. Go get

552
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Speaker 1: out of here, go to Detroit. Some people will call

553
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Speaker 1: the Depths of Hell an NFL right, And he had

554
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Speaker 1: a bounce back, no, i'mna prove you wrong attitude already

555
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Speaker 1: a veteran something to prove. And again now he has

556
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Speaker 1: a different type of skill set than Caleb, and I

557
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:22,680
Speaker 1: think Ben Johnson. He looks at the backup and he says,

558
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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't want to go there, but that's

559
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Speaker 1: more what I'm used to. If this is weird science,

560
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Speaker 1: shout up to the movie in the eighties, and I'm

561
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Speaker 1: building something, it looks a little bit more like that,

562
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Speaker 1: because that's what I'm used to. That's what I can

563
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Speaker 1: work with. And I have to break twenty three year

564
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,399
Speaker 1: old habits with you, of you being able to do

565
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Speaker 1: what you do to the tune of a heisman, so

566
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Speaker 1: you think it's the right way to do it, yep.

567
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Speaker 1: And I have to try to break that. And I

568
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 1: think he's frustrated with them not breaking the huddle fast enough.

569
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Speaker 1: We know that. I think he's frustrated with how bad

570
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Speaker 1: they looked his last preseason game and he's like, dude,

571
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Speaker 1: this is our third game.

572
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Speaker 3: We're down seventeen to nothing before we got to switch

573
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Speaker 3: to start off exactly, this is our third game. I

574
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Speaker 3: think he's frustrated with the inaccuracy. We talk about it

575
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 3: and had hoop shorts and T shirts and you're going

576
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Speaker 3: five for seventeen, And I think there's a level of

577
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 3: him that says, also the reason I brought up the

578
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Speaker 3: NFL not for long.

579
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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna sit up here and we go four

580
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,199
Speaker 1: and thirteen, five and twelve and don't look good and

581
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Speaker 1: everybody blaming it on me, and it looks bad because

582
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Speaker 1: I'm not a former number one pick in the high

583
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Speaker 1: scho where I might get another year or two. We

584
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Speaker 1: got to wake it work. That was our pick. They

585
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Speaker 1: might let me go quick. Right. We know that you

586
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 1: can be successful and get you met coach of the

587
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 1: Year in sports and get fired the next season it's happened.

588
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 1: You can win the Super Bowl two years later you

589
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Speaker 1: out of a jilt exactly. So I think he is

590
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Speaker 1: just why he's just saying, look, man, get it right,

591
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Speaker 1: and for him to say it publicly, I don't want

592
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Speaker 1: to make the same ones he said, long as we're

593
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Speaker 1: heading right for the directions and not making the same

594
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 1: mistakes twice. I think he's doing some trying to do

595
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,440
Speaker 1: some zen Master, Phil Jackson, Jedi Mintrie. Hey, Caleb, get

596
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Speaker 1: it right, brother, because I got a guy like just

597
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,159
Speaker 1: got a deal two year, ten mil, which is a

598
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Speaker 1: good amount for a back. Yeah, especially a backup who's

599
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:03,719
Speaker 1: not like Jameis Winston can get it. We're used to

600
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 1: that exactly. He's been here for a long time, Jacobe,

601
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,919
Speaker 1: wereset those kind of guys. He's not that. So I

602
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 1: just understand it, and I think their styles they're gonna

603
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 1: have to find a way to meet in the middle.

604
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:17,360
Speaker 1: Leaning more towards Ben Johnson, otherwise, I could just see

605
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 1: him saying, man, I can't deal with this the more

606
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 1: remedial issues.

607
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I'm with you, and it's well documented. You

608
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 3: can check my twitter out at to producer RG that

609
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 3: I am not a big Caleb Williams fan. I just

610
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 3: don't believe that his style of football necessarily translate to

611
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 3: most NFL teams. Are their exceptions, obviously, Patrick Mahomes, you know,

612
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 3: had a quarterback coach or a head coach, excuse me,

613
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,679
Speaker 3: and Andy Reid who was willing to let him do

614
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,399
Speaker 3: the backyard stuff, but then he'd reel them in right.

615
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 3: But for the most part, if you look at a

616
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Speaker 3: lot of these most successful coaches, Sean McVay, Ben Johnson,

617
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Speaker 3: is Won, Kyle Shanahan, they're the type where it's like, no,

618
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Speaker 3: my system, run my system, it works, trust me. It's

619
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Speaker 3: like novacaine. Give it time, it's gonna work. As long

620
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Speaker 3: as you do what I tell you to do, we're

621
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Speaker 3: gonna be successful. And that's not necessarily the way that

622
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:07,919
Speaker 3: Caleb Williams plays. Even with that said, I'm with you

623
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Speaker 3: in the sense that if this goes sideways, I don't

624
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 3: believe it's gonna be because of him. It's gonna be because,

625
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,639
Speaker 3: as you mentioned Ben Johnson, again, it's only the preseason,

626
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,880
Speaker 3: it's only the off season, it's only training camp.

627
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 1: Whatever.

628
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 3: He has shown himself to be a little bit short tempered,

629
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Speaker 3: he has shown himself to be a little bit on

630
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 3: edge all the time. He has shown himself so far,

631
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 3: at least, to be unable to kind of connect to

632
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 3: these guys as professionals, as personal guy, as personal men

633
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 3: and women you know on the staff. He is like

634
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 3: a lot of guys are Historically, I was a play designer,

635
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 3: a play caller. I'm in my little cave drawing up

636
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 3: some really cool stuff, and I'm great with the x's

637
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 3: and o's. I'd necessarily have to worry about the timeouts,

638
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 3: I have to worry about the media. I'd have to

639
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 3: worry about all the things that come along with being

640
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 3: I had football code in the NFL, and because of that,

641
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 3: as you mentioned, he wants things done a certain way,

642
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 3: and what he wants is not at all what Kayler

643
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Speaker 3: Williams does well. We mentioned the athletic quarterback tiers that

644
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Speaker 3: came out a few weeks ago and one of the

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Speaker 3: reasons why, or as the biggest reason why Kayla Williams

646
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Speaker 3: was consistently in Tier three despite being viewed as a

647
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Speaker 3: generational prospect. Here are the quotes in terms of processing,

648
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Speaker 3: ability to get in the ball out of his hands.

649
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Speaker 3: It was the worst we played against. Here's another one.

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Speaker 3: Processing to me was alarming watching the tape, so I

651
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Speaker 3: could totally see a scenario where, because we've already seen

652
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Speaker 3: it this offseason in preseason in training camp, Ben Johnson

653
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 3: throws his offense off the field. Ben Johnson says, Luther Burning,

654
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Speaker 3: you cannot work in with the first and second team

655
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Speaker 3: because you didn't do this right. So I'm gonna punish

656
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Speaker 3: you in this regard. I could see a scenario just

657
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Speaker 3: looking at their schedule the first five games of the year,

658
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Speaker 3: they got Vikings, Lions, Cowboys, Raiders, Commanders, depending how you

659
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Speaker 3: feel about them, there is a scenario where they start

660
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Speaker 3: off one in five, two, and four. And I could

661
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Speaker 3: totally see a situation where Cayleb Williams is in a

662
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Speaker 3: game and he's going nine for twenty one, or he's

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Speaker 3: you know, twelve for thirty or whatever it is. He's

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Speaker 3: having one of those games that young quarterbacks have all

665
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Speaker 3: the time. It's not normally a cause for concern.

666
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Speaker 1: It just happens.

667
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Speaker 3: But maybe he's you know, zero touchdowns, two interceptions or

668
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Speaker 3: no touchdowns, one pick, he lost the fumble, he's been

669
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Speaker 3: sacked a couple of times. Whatever it is. Right, he's

670
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 3: holding the ball too long. They're down big. The coach says, hey,

671
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Speaker 3: it's not your day, Caleb. Don't worry about it. We

672
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Speaker 3: don't want you to get hurt. Let's throw in Tyson

673
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Speaker 3: Bagent real quick. Let him finish this one off. We'll

674
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Speaker 3: live to fight another day. And then Tyson beagent running

675
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Speaker 3: the system that Ben Johnson knows and loves comes in

676
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Speaker 3: and leads him to a quick scoring drive. So instead

677
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Speaker 3: of losing thirty one nothing, they lose thirty one to

678
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Speaker 3: ten whatever it is. And then next thing, you know,

679
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Speaker 3: we got a quarterback controversy because Ben Johnson didn't necessarily

680
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Speaker 3: shut it down by saying, hey, Caleb's our guy or man,

681
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Speaker 3: it was great to see Tyson out there. He looked

682
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Speaker 3: really good, he looked really comfortable. And again it's not

683
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Speaker 3: necessarily Caleb's fault because he's young and he's supposed to

684
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Speaker 3: go through this kind of stuff. But the way Ben

685
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 3: Johnson's wired, man, I could totally see a scenario where

686
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 3: this ends, not ends, but there's some rough fatches there

687
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Speaker 3: at Chicago.

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Speaker 1: Here's where I will give some caution to Ben Johnson. Though.

689
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Speaker 1: This reminds me a little bit of the JJ Reddick

690
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 1: guys who are so high strong and I watch so

691
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Speaker 1: much film. You don't understand, don't you see it? A

692
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 1: lot like calm down? You know why Phil Jackson was

693
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 1: great because he said, Hey, Dennis Robin, go to Vegas

694
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Speaker 1: in the middle of season, right, blow off some steam.

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Speaker 1: That's what you mean? Oh you mean just just tonight? No, no, no,

696
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 1: miss games who does that right. You look at Ben Johnson,

697
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 1: where'd he come from? Detroit? Dan Campbell more of the

698
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Speaker 1: overarching coach. I'm the whole like this Ski, I'm not

699
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Speaker 1: in that, and O I'm the just modern managing the

700
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Speaker 1: temperament of the team, the personalities we kind of have,

701
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Speaker 1: my ethos, my vibe, my aura that sometimes is a

702
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Speaker 1: head coach. Head coach isn't always just you know, we're

703
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Speaker 1: gonna do it, this might win in and high strung something.

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00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,959
Speaker 1: You look at Sean McVay, he's high strong a bit,

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Speaker 1: but he's also very much a player's coach. He's probably

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Speaker 1: I would imagine if we sat him right here, and

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Speaker 1: I've heard him talk about it, just living in la

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Speaker 1: a lot. He's had had to learn that.

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Speaker 3: That balance of Mike Tomlin is one of those guys

710
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Speaker 3: who you look at who he's had on his team

711
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Speaker 3: and the fact that he was able to keep him

712
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 3: together get to the playoffs every year.

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Speaker 1: A great balance of big Ben Antonio Brown, Levan Bell,

714
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Speaker 1: I'm the same roster, a great balance of expectations and

715
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Speaker 1: holding you to a high standard, but also play, Hey,

716
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 1: what's going on man, how's everything? So Ben Johnson well

717
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 1: will have to learn that it ain't always about me

718
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 1: just proving my point and who's right and wrong. And

719
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this in the media, especially when you

720
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Speaker 1: don't have that equity, right, Mike Thoma can do it.

721
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Speaker 1: He Mike Tomlin at this point, right, Andy Reek, and

722
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Speaker 1: he's and read. You do have to earn that, And

723
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Speaker 1: especially in the time where they're like, uh, Janna Jackson,

724
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 1: what have you done for me? Like? Who? I mean,

725
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 1: that's how what you're doing with Dedroit, But who are you?

726
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Speaker 1: Ain't doing nothing here?

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Speaker 3: It's like when you're throwing guys out of practice the

728
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Speaker 3: first day, like what's what's the next step?

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Speaker 1: Right? And exactly? And I think you're trying to set

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Speaker 1: a tone, but it's like, I don't know what your

731
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Speaker 1: tone setting is, right? Who are you that Bill Belichick

732
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Speaker 1: could do that? And we all would know what that meant? Yep,

733
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Speaker 1: I don't know your standing. I don't know what you're

734
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Speaker 1: going to do. So is Bill Belichick came there with

735
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl rings already to New England? He did, as

736
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Speaker 1: we were watching right now, told you they got the

737
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Speaker 1: thirty to thirty going, all right, So it will be

738
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Speaker 1: very interesting to see this play out. But I think Kayleeah,

739
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 1: they're they're in a position where if Caleb can just

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Speaker 1: start to improve in those things because he has a

741
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Speaker 1: mastermind at it. But also Ben Johnson's gonna have to

742
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Speaker 1: practice patience more than he probably had to do the

743
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 1: last four or five years with Jared goff In, a

744
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 1: pro and a veteran who had a lot to prove

745
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 1: coming from, you know, being kind of outcast from the Rams,

746
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Speaker 1: who wanted to bounce back and you know, prove them wrong.

747
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 1: So there was that, all right, Josh Allen Uh had

748
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 1: some thoughts on how he can improve. Do we agree

749
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 1: with those changes? We'll tell you. It's thea couple Rob

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Speaker 1: g In for ro p covin Washington. They couple on

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: Praise you for the rest of our days. Come on, Matti, Actually,

757
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 1: don't do it, Manzi right now, right now, we don't

758
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 1: have time. Don't act like he was at a Dodger

759
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 1: game and it was all exoustic. Stop it. It's the couple.

760
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 1: Kevin Washington rob G inf on a worship Wednesday, and

761
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna get straight to it right now. It is

762
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Speaker 1: signed for One's Gotta Go, all right, So in honor

763
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,840
Speaker 1: of Travis Kelce getting on that knee, looking Taylor in

764
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Speaker 1: his face and saying me, me at the author and

765
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Speaker 1: yo I dress and she said yes and I'm go

766
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Speaker 1: and wrote a song about it. All right. We only

767
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Speaker 1: have a few minutes here. Let's get to it. The

768
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:08,359
Speaker 1: ones gotta go this edition Patrick Moncey, uh, Miss Mary mac.

769
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Speaker 1: Rob G myself is proposing to a woman. Manci the

770
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Speaker 1: song's over. Mike Goodness, I'm still singing it. We're proposing

771
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Speaker 1: to a woman ways and wish to do it. Are

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Speaker 1: you ready? Here we go an airplane. You know you've

773
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 1: seen that where it's like Sarah, will you marry me?

774
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 1: The banner on the plane? Okay, write them down, banner

775
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 1: on the plane. A game you had, a Dodger game.

776
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 1: Please fort your attention to section five. Rob G wants

777
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: to know. And then you go like that that's one

778
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:38,840
Speaker 1: family or friends of it, like all hanging out and

779
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 1: family friends and bam you just get under knee. Everybody

780
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 1: screaming a mall like you're just you know how they

781
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 1: drop down like a flash mob at the mall. You're

782
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Speaker 1: sitting in the mall and they just dropping. Everybody looks

783
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 1: and everybody staring, like an impromptu random place like that.

784
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Speaker 1: And lastly, work, akaa her job like you just you

785
00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 1: pull she's at work. You're just surprised you pull up.

786
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 1: One's gotta go. A lot of them got to go.

787
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 1: That's the real that's the real answer. But don't really,

788
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: but only one has to go. So manzi, if you ready,

789
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 1: Patrick or miss Mary Mack, whoever's right, Patrick, you're ready,

790
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 1: go ahead.

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00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 5: I'm ready not to pick one. It's the mall one.

792
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 5: Come on, that's random. Nah, I'm out on the mall one.

793
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 5: I'm gonna add in the mall. What I mean is

794
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Speaker 5: you're like a random place. You get what I'm saying, Like,

795
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:25,320
Speaker 5: how do you out in public?

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00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 1: Out on that though?

797
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Speaker 6: But you're out at dinner, you're out at here.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that'd kind of one. You know Disney. You see

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Speaker 1: it at Disney, like in front of the castle, always

800
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Speaker 1: in front of the castle. I think she'd be going

801
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 1: to like, oh this is why are we over the castles?

802
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 1: Is really just something you walk through here go ahead,

803
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 1: manzi running a long time. A lot of them have

804
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Speaker 1: to go.

805
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,800
Speaker 6: But I think for me at a game, I can't

806
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 6: be at work, and okay a Laker game, man, I

807
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 6: can't be at the Clipper game cheering for the beard

808
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 6: and the claw and.

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Speaker 1: Then you're going down on one knee. I ain't got

810
00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 1: time for that. I am painted. I can't.

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Speaker 3: We're in the middle of a come back right now.

812
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 1: Forever she thinks she was the curse. I should have

813
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 1: never got engaged right to the playoffs, like in my

814
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 1: Yankee stadium. Get here and judge. No, all right, no,

815
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 1: so no game, we got no mall, just kind of

816
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 1: out in public.

817
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 7: Mary, I'm not gonna lie. I'll be damn You do

818
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:17,840
Speaker 7: it on the plane though, Well, no, I'm not on

819
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Speaker 7: a plane.

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Speaker 1: Remember it's the banner of the you're sitting there, the

821
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 1: ban on the plane, the banner on the plane, like

822
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 1: the planes to narrow in there. I don't know.

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Speaker 7: I hate all of them though, But no, not my job.

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Speaker 7: Don't do it on my job. He's God forbid, not

825
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 7: at the job. I'll be looking like a bum here.

826
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Speaker 7: Why would you propose?

827
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Speaker 3: I got blanket on and sweatpants Rockley, rob G, big facts,

828
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 3: A lot of them got to go, Like you guys said,

829
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Speaker 3: the airplane banner got to go, really the airplane batter

830
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Speaker 3: because it's like this cheesy n eighties no more.

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Speaker 6: It is cheesy, but you could get away with it,

832
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 6: like nobody has to see it.

833
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 1: Everybody's gonna see it. You just like that's not for you,

834
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 1: that's not that's not for me, somebody else, somebody else.

835
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Speaker 1: I think the one that has to go is Believe

836
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 1: it or Not a game as well, because I think

837
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 1: that's just too much prep. Like I'm sure, Yeah, and

838
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: then you made the whole thing. We're on the jumbo

839
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Speaker 1: Tron and just and and and just and you lose

840
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 1: the intimacy of the moment. Yeah, And it's just too

841
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 1: many And maybe you wanted to tell people later now

842
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 1: it's all over social you didn't even have Bleacher Reports

843
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 1: got enough. Fox Sports got it up. So yeah, I

844
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Speaker 1: think that would happened to you propose, you know, yeah,

845
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 1: like you're proposing everybody else. So all right, well, congrats

846
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Speaker 1: to Travis and Taylor and uh, I might put this

847
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Speaker 1: one on socials and see what people say as well.

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Speaker 2: Might be