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Speaker 1: We want to welcome in Mark Pryor, now long time

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Speaker 1: jein coach for the Los Angeles Dodgers. He's been of

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Speaker 1: course with the staff for a number of years, including

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Speaker 1: as a bullpen coach before becoming the pitching coach. Mark,

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Speaker 1: great to be with you as always.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: We were just talking about the depth of your starting

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Speaker 1: rotation and we're interested in knowing. I mean, is this

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Speaker 1: possibly the most formidable pitching staff that you've ever worked

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Speaker 1: with going into a season. I hate to have you

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Speaker 1: rank your guys, right, You're kind of like ranking your kids,

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Speaker 1: but man, you've got a lot to work with.

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Speaker 2: Well one, I won't. I won't rank your kids, and

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Speaker 2: I won't rank my pitchers either, you know. Look, I

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Speaker 2: mean we're blessed, you know, from a standpoint, from our

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Speaker 2: ownership standpoint, from management that they've gone out and acquired

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Speaker 2: a lot of talent, a lot of really high end talents.

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Speaker 2: So it's a fun group to work with. At the

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Speaker 2: end of the day, they want to win, they enjoy

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Speaker 2: competing against other teams. They enjoy competing, you know, and

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Speaker 2: pushing each other. It's just a fun group to work with.

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Speaker 2: I think that's ultimately as a staff. You know, you

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Speaker 2: enjoy the moments because they care and have such a

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Speaker 2: a lot of fun and a pleasure to work with

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Speaker 3: Mark, Hi, my name's Katie. You'll meet me officially next

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Speaker 3: week down at Camelback Ranch. But thanks so much for

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Speaker 3: about Yamamoto because we know he's going to go play

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Speaker 3: in the WBC for Team Japan. He also had that heroic,

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Speaker 3: monstrous performance for you guys in the World Series last year.

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Speaker 3: When you're looking at workload, and we touched on this

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Speaker 3: little bit tired from his performance last year. Is this

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Speaker 3: something where you're going to be monitoring his workload because

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean that's the nature of the WBC, you know,

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Speaker 2: World Series. You know, he's in a great spot. He

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Speaker 2: feels good. He wouldn't do this if he wasn't feeling good.

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Speaker 2: He made that very clear, I think to ourselves as

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Speaker 2: I think what he did last year in the playoffs

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Speaker 2: But he's going to be in a good spot and

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Speaker 2: he'll be ready to go once the season starts. He's

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Speaker 2: he's a unique individual. He takes unbelievable care of himself

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Speaker 2: last year was was special to watch him, you know,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, special stuff from him. And if he's a type

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Speaker 2: so it'll constantly be you know, managed, not managed, but

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's a lot to learn at that level.

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Speaker 1: Nothing but upside for Roki sisl Hockey Mark. I want

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Speaker 1: to talk about the sixth spot in the Dodgers starting rotation,

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Speaker 1: perhaps the one question Mark Dave and Andrew Friedman of course,

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Speaker 2: I mean, look, all three of those guys are going

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Speaker 2: this season. I think if one thing has been consistent

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Speaker 2: three of those guys I think are going to impact

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Speaker 2: Every year. Every year has been different, but we've been

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Speaker 2: consistently known that we do need starters at some point,

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Speaker 2: He would give us, you know games where he'd go

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Speaker 2: He came up up in his in his rookie year

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Speaker 2: And I think it's in all accounts. He's he finished

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Speaker 3: Mark When you look at how this roster is shaping up,

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Speaker 3: to be some workload a Dave Robertson at FanFest. You know,

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Speaker 3: but the usage might not be on a five day schedule.

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