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All thanks to 11 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 2: Live Nation. Ever been left waiting by the phone. It's 12 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:38,480 Speaker 2: the Fred Show, Ashton, Good morning, welcome to the show. 13 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 1: How are you good? Not for you doing? Great? Man? 14 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 2: What's going on with this woman Anastasia? We got to 15 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 2: hear how you met, about any dates you've been on, 16 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 2: and then kind of where things are now and how 17 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 2: we can help you. 18 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I met her on this app, like a 19 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: dating app. 20 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 2: Okay, vaguely familiar with those. Yeah, I've been been known to, 21 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 2: you know, frequent, but anyway, yeah, okay, so on an 22 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 2: app you met her? 23 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: Then? 24 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 2: What? 25 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, we went to like a coffee place, and then 26 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 3: we got some food later. 27 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: The date was pretty nice. I was really into her. 28 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:15,119 Speaker 1: I thought it went well. 29 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 3: I thought she had a good time too, because with 30 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 3: a good good night and goodbye. But now she's ghosting me, 31 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 3: so I don't know why. 32 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, well that's where we come in. Of course, 33 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 2: we're gonna call Anastasia, get her on the phone if 34 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 2: we can. We're gonna ask these questions on your behalf. 35 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:33,680 Speaker 2: And the hope is always is that we can straighten 36 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 2: this out and sit you up on another date and 37 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 2: pay for it. Okay, yeah, sounds good, Ashton. Hello, let's 38 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 2: call Anastasia. This is the one when you met on 39 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 2: one of the apps. She went on a nice coffee date. 40 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 2: You thought everything went really well. 41 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:47,320 Speaker 1: You're a little. 42 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 2: Confused, though, because you've reached out to her to plan 43 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 2: another date and she has not responded to you at all, 44 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 2: and you. 45 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: Want to know why. Yep, that sounds right. Okay, Well 46 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: let's call her now. Good luck? 47 00:01:58,000 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 4: All right? 48 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 1: Hello, Hi is this Anastasia. It is Hi. 49 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:10,679 Speaker 2: Good morning. My name is Fred. I'm calling from the 50 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:13,079 Speaker 2: Fred Show, the morning radio show. The whole crew is here, 51 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 2: and I do have to tell you that we are 52 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:16,639 Speaker 2: on the radio right now, and I would need you 53 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 2: our permission to continue with the call. Can which have 54 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 2: for just a second, would you mind? 55 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 4: I guess I have time. What's up? 56 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:22,839 Speaker 1: Well, thank you very much. 57 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 2: We're calling on behalf of a dude name Ashton, and 58 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 2: he says he met you on a dating app and 59 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 2: you guys went on a coffee date recently. 60 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: Do you remember him? 61 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 4: Yeah? I remember, and I'm really be honest, I'm not 62 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 4: sure I'm actually comfortable being on the radio talking about 63 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 4: this anymore. 64 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 2: Oh well, you can hang up any time, I mean, 65 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 2: if you want to, but we'd love to get the 66 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 2: story because he reached out to us and he says 67 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 2: that he thought the date went really well and he 68 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:50,239 Speaker 2: liked you, except he is confused, he says, because. 69 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 1: He can't get a hold of you. 70 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 2: So I mean, you can tell us and then we'll 71 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 2: tell him, and then you know, this whole thing can 72 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:54,799 Speaker 2: be over. 73 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:58,839 Speaker 4: I guess yeah, okay, Well, I mean I guess you're right. 74 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:01,079 Speaker 4: It's very this is very very awkward, but it goes 75 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 4: nothing illegal happened. So sure, Yeah, Ashton and I met 76 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 4: on we met on Bumble and we were like flirting 77 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 4: and stuff and he asked me out for coffee, and 78 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 4: at the time he said it's because oh, I'm taking 79 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 4: a break from drinking, right okay, which is no, that's 80 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 4: like no problem. I don't need to go out and drink. 81 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 2: So that question too about the coffee, like does he 82 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 2: not drink or was he not drinking or you know 83 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:26,679 Speaker 2: who knows? 84 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, but anyway, so he's taking a break. 85 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's what he told me, and yeah, 86 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 4: that's great. I support that. So totally fine. We go, 87 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 4: we had food, we got the coffee, we walked in 88 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 4: my car, and you know, gave me a kiss before 89 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 4: saying goodbye, and everything was fine. But I don't know, 90 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 4: my sixth cents kind of went off and things took 91 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 4: a turn. Basically, I know it's weird, but I did 92 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 4: some creeping on him on social and I found his 93 00:03:54,840 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 4: Facebook with his photo, but it said he was much 94 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 4: younger than what he told me. 95 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 2: I mean, how much younger, like you're going to jail 96 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 2: younger or you don't know. 97 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 4: But I have some friends who are cops and I 98 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 4: reached out to them and they told me that he's twenty. 99 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 2: Oh also we ah wow, so we like did a 100 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 2: background check on the guy. Okay, so he's twenty. I mean, 101 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 2: he's twenty years old. And how old are you? I'm 102 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 2: thirty four, okay, And how old did he tell you 103 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 2: he was? 104 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 4: He didn't exactly say, And I guess that's kind of 105 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 4: like what I'm saying. I mean the whole like, oh, 106 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 4: I'm taking a break from. 107 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 2: Drinking, though it's year break actually that he's taking because yeah, right, 108 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 2: legally right, he can't he can't physically buy a drink. 109 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 4: Okay, wow, yeah, I and my bumble profile says that 110 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 4: my age range is thirty to fifty. So it means 111 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 4: in order for us to have matched up on bumble, 112 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 4: he had to have lied. 113 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 2: Oh so he consciously said his age older. Okay, Now, 114 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 2: this isn't against the law. He's over eighteen. He's an ausult. 115 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 2: I mean, it's not like you did anything wrong. But 116 00:04:57,880 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 2: I can also. 117 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 1: Understand that you feel like a kissed the boy. Yeah. Well, 118 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: you know I could have babysat this kid. 119 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you were you were fourteen years old, 120 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 2: you were you know, a woman presumably when he was born. 121 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: Let me bring it. 122 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:14,159 Speaker 2: I forgot to mention that ashion is here, and I'm 123 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 2: very forgetful and I apologize for. 124 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: That ash And how old are you? 125 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 2: I'm twenty okay, And and you're purporting to be much 126 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 2: older than that to match with older women, which I 127 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 2: must say is a genius move. Yes, that's it. That's 128 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:33,239 Speaker 2: a pro that's a pro level move. I'll be honest, honest, 129 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 2: it's very very creative. And if you know you you 130 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 2: were indeed taking a break from drinking because you can't. 131 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 2: So there's But also if I had it to do 132 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 2: over again when I was twenty, I would have been 133 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 2: dating much older women too. In fact, if you've been 134 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 2: listening for a while, you know, I did have a 135 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 2: transformational story when I was around twenty one and I 136 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 2: went out with someone significantly older. 137 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: Now, I did not lie about my ses. She knew. 138 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 2: If anything, I think she lied about hers among other things. Uh, 139 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 2: But anyway, that was a transformational experience for me. And 140 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 2: I can see why you might want to do this. 141 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 2: But what were you going to do when you eventually 142 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 2: had to tell her how old you were? 143 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 1: Oh? 144 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 3: Honestly, I didn't really think that far ahead obviously, but 145 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 3: shocking I would have. 146 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 1: I would have I would have been honest about it, 147 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 1: and hopefully that they would did mom forget to. 148 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 2: Put your cell phone bill? I mean, what's what's going 149 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 2: on here? Like you're breaking up a whole bit, Anastasia. 150 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 2: So you kiss you kissed a twenty year old you're 151 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 2: thirty four, I mean I can see that. 152 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: No, when someone's twenty, I think there's nothing wrong with it. 153 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 2: I think that I think that the person needs to 154 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 2: not pretend to be ten plus years older. I think 155 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 2: it's obviously very dishonest for me, right, And so I 156 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 2: don't know anything, an Estia. You could go out with 157 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 2: a much younger man if you chose to, and he 158 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 2: can go out with a much older woman if he 159 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 2: chooses to. But I think it's the dishonesty. It's the 160 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 2: lack of transparency that's the issue here, right, I mean, that's. 161 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 4: The reason he'll never see me again. But like, I mean, 162 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 4: to each their own. I'm not bashing people who date 163 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 4: people that are much younger than them. But I was 164 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 4: pretty upfront that it's not for me. And then he 165 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 4: like circumvented the system so that he could slip through 166 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 4: the cracks anyway. Yeah, no, never again. 167 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 2: So it was intentionally, it was manipulative, It was intentionally 168 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 2: dishonest because he knew. He knows that most thirty four 169 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 2: year old women are not going to go out with 170 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 2: a twenty year old man. Most, I woult to say all, 171 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 2: but most, And so you would never have accepted a 172 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 2: date with him if you had known that he was twenty. 173 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 4: No, I mean there'd be no point. We're not even 174 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 4: on the same playing field, like mentally, life wise. 175 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 2: It's true to talk about I think it's fair to say. 176 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 2: That's not a diss that's just the facts. Wow, exactly, Ashton. 177 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 2: How often has this worked for you? And do you 178 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 2: ever get caught? Well, it was really my so first time. No, 179 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 2: you can't run to car man. Yeah, yeah, I don't know, 180 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 2: but hey, I will say the whole taking a break 181 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 2: from drinking, Well, it's multifascinating because not only is it 182 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 2: it's it's smooth, but it's highly dishonest. Like you know 183 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 2: what you're doing, Like you know that you're lying to 184 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 2: these women. You're not being deceptive, you're being dishonest. 185 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know. 186 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 4: I'm glad I took this call now because I hope 187 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 4: you learned a lesson today, Ashton. 188 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 2: It's giving, like teacher and students. Maybe maybe this is 189 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:34,439 Speaker 2: what he's into. Actually, like, yeah, you're going you're going 190 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 2: to bet without dinner to night Ashton, I'll tell you what. Yeah, 191 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 2: you've been, you've been, you've been at This is turning 192 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 2: into okay anyway, So anastage, I mean I have to 193 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 2: ask the question. 194 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: It's my job. I know the answer. Would you like 195 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 1: to go out with him again? 196 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 2: We'll pay for it, perhaps with nice chuck e cheese 197 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 2: or something, I don't know. 198 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: McDonald's. I be if I kiss a twenty year old, 199 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 1: I would be like I would feel like I kiss 200 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 1: a child. Yeah, I mean, let's just be clear. 201 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 2: He obviously looked old enough to her, and he obviously 202 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 2: was obviously into it. There's nothing wrong with this, It's 203 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 2: just it's a lie. She didn't This is not illegal. 204 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 2: It's a lie that I would have an issue with, 205 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 2: and it would also make me wonder what else are 206 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 2: you not telling me? How in what other ways you're 207 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 2: being deceptive? But I mean, you didn't let me ask 208 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 2: you this, anastagia. You couldn't tell that he was fourteen 209 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 2: years younger. 210 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 4: I mean, I wasn't gonn to say it, but maybe 211 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 4: work on your skincare regimen nash and like you pulled 212 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 4: it off, but it's not a good thing. 213 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 2: Oh wait, so now okay, so now you kiss the 214 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 2: pimplely kid like I don't. 215 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:46,559 Speaker 4: I'm confused, cons. 216 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 2: I'm trying to give you the benefit of the doubt here. 217 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 2: And then you looked like a very mature twenty year 218 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 2: old and that's how they say he had a. 219 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 4: He had a beard, So like that helps too. I've 220 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 4: seen sixteen year old with a full beard and they 221 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 4: can they can pull it off. 222 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 2: Well, I he couldn't grow a full beard at twenty, 223 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 2: so you know, he says, well ahead of me. I 224 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 2: guess I still can't. All right, Look, so no for 225 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:10,559 Speaker 2: a second date, Ashton. Look, I bet you there are 226 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 2: people who would be into it if you just told 227 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 2: the truth. Maybe not as many as you'd like, but 228 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:17,599 Speaker 2: you're good. The problem with these kind of lies is 229 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 2: eventually you're gonna have to tell the truth and then 230 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 2: you have a problem. So why not just tell the 231 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 2: truth from the beginning. 232 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll definitely start doing that more. 233 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 2: I guess he should start doing that more. Yeah, I 234 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 2: would recommend it. Okay at a stage, I'm sorry this 235 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 2: happened to you. Good luck to you, thank you for 236 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:36,559 Speaker 2: answering Ashton Tell the Truth. Good luck to you as well. 237 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 4: I'd love your show.