1 00:00:01,480 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff You Should Know, a production of I 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: Heart Radio. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark, 3 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: and there's Charles W. Chuck Bryant over there, and there's 4 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 1: Jerry And this is Stuff you Should Know. That another 5 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: true life mystery addition, a true life mystery. Yeah, Okay, 6 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: I don't I don't want to say crime because I'm 7 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: not sure crime was involved. I'm sure it still falls 8 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: under the umbrella of true crime, but it's it's a 9 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 1: mystery of disappearance, how about that? Yeah? And this one is, uh, 10 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 1: this can be frustrating to research, and this is our 11 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: caveat and that. Um, this situation, as you will learn, 12 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: happened in Bulgaria to a German Man and that's part 13 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: of the reason it's hard to get great information. Um, 14 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:00,080 Speaker 1: there are plenty of people on the internet telling this 15 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: story with different details, and uh, it's just sort of 16 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 1: one of those cases where like we can't get our 17 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: hands on Bulgarian case files from the cops right and 18 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: read it ourselves. So, um, we did find a redditor 19 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 1: who did something last year who claims that he got 20 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: information from Lars's mother who you're gonna meet, Sandra not. 21 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: She's not gonna be on the show. You're not gonna 22 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 1: really meet her meet through our words. But you know 23 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: who knows this is someone on Reddit, and um, all 24 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: his uh sources were in German, so I couldn't double 25 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 1: check those either, right, Yeah, no, I mean that's that's 26 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 1: a caveat that works for just about any true crime 27 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:45,559 Speaker 1: or disappearance case these days, just because there's so many 28 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: people who you know, take a story and run it 29 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: through their own grinder, and you know, like you said, 30 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: little details, little facts get changed here, and then somebody 31 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: else picks up the same fact without double checking it, 32 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: and now all of a sudden, it's all over the place, 33 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 1: and you can't tell if that's because it's real or 34 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: because a bunch of people just repeated the same incorrect facts. So, um, 35 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: we're gonna definitely do our best. But one of the 36 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: things about this story is there are enough, you know, 37 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: totally verified facts to it that that you know, you 38 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: don't really need to get completely lost in the details. 39 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: People have gotten completely lost in the details, um, but 40 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:28,239 Speaker 1: they've still not solved the case. That hasn't helped anybody yet. 41 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: So just the facts that are known are kind of 42 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,959 Speaker 1: strange enough. Yeah, and I think it's it's always more 43 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 1: comfortable for us when it's like when there's a book 44 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,639 Speaker 1: that's been written about it, published by like a real 45 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: publisher like Beverly. Clearly it's not just internet dudes. Uh, 46 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: But you know a lot of times these more recent 47 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 1: sort of missing person cases, it is just internet dude. 48 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 1: So you know, yeah, that's what it is. And the 49 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 1: dude that we're talking about, uh is named Lars Matonk 50 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: and he's known as the most famous missing person on 51 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 1: YouTube because he is. It is pretty bad almost. It 52 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: should have probably just scared us off of this episode 53 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: to begin with, um, the the because you know, you remember, um, 54 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: what was the name of that con the YouTube convention? 55 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: We went to that one time. Oh it was like 56 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: Internet com but it wasn't that. It was close to that. 57 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 1: I can't remember. That almost put me off of YouTube forever. 58 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 1: We blocked our memory bank as we did our our 59 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: biggest show ever there in front of about twelve people. Yeah, 60 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: it was pretty bad, but I don't think of it. 61 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: But by the way, we should think Dave Meischner, who 62 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: was who's a listener who turned me onto this quite 63 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: a while ago. So sorry it took so long to 64 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: get to Dave Um. So we're talking again. We're talking 65 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: about Lars ma Tonk and he uh vanished from the 66 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: face of the earth. As his mom put it, it 67 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:00,040 Speaker 1: was like the earth just swallowed him up. Back in 68 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: July eighth, two thousand and fourteen, in a town, a 69 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: resort town in Bulgaria on the Black Sea called Golden Sands, 70 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: which looking at pictures of it, it looks like a 71 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: pretty charming little place. Uh, big con, that's it. It 72 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: might as well have been called Internet Con. Yeah, but 73 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: did you look at pictures of Golden Sands is to 74 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 1: get a feel for the place? Yeah, you know, looks 75 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 1: like any lovely seaside hamlet. Yeah. And I couldn't get 76 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: the impression of whether it's more like Destined or more 77 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: like Panama City beach. I just couldn't. It seems like 78 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 1: a big party spot, if that's what you're wondering, Okay, 79 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 1: But like it also looked like it. It was fairly 80 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: like clean and well run and not just like you know, 81 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:46,359 Speaker 1: just whatever kind of thing. I don't know. I place 82 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:49,359 Speaker 1: it between the two from what I can tell. But 83 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: that's where that that's where this event took place where 84 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: the disappearance took place. There's actually Varna, Bulgaria, which is 85 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 1: the main town that Golden Sands Resort beach town is 86 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 1: right outside of Yeah. So as far as Lars Uh 87 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:04,679 Speaker 1: the young man who would go missing, he was born 88 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 1: in February nineties six in northern Germany. He was an 89 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: only child. He was handsome kid, very popular, He was athletic, 90 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: he was smart. He did well in school. Um after 91 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: he ended up. After he graduated, he ended up getting 92 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: a job at the g d S who has power 93 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: plant about a hundred miles from where he grew up, 94 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: fixing um small electrical machines. He was an engineer and 95 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: it seemed like he had a really good life and 96 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: he enjoyed his job. He loved and this will figure 97 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: in so put a pin in this. His one big 98 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: love was his UH football club, his soccer team that 99 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: he followed, which is in you know this is not 100 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 1: how they would pronounce it, but the Verder Bremen football Club. 101 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: Oh really, how would they pronounce it? Well, it's always 102 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: just a little more German. Like the guy the Reditor. 103 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: He narrates his own document Henry, and he said it 104 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: in a way that I'm not even gonna attempt. Oh okay, 105 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: all right, fine, So, UM, that whole football club thing 106 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: actually plays a role in this because, um it may 107 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,359 Speaker 1: be at the center of his disappearance. We're not a 108 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: hard percent sure, but UM, to kind of give you 109 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 1: an idea of what kind of guy Lars Metank was. 110 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: Matank was. His dad had a stroke a couple of 111 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 1: years before he disappeared, Um, and his mom had to 112 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: take care of his dad full time. Lars was an 113 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: only child, and he would come home, UM I guess 114 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: about a hundred miles from where he lived and worked 115 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: almost every weekend to help take care of his dad, 116 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 1: which is not every guy in their late twenties would 117 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: do that, you know. Um, And apparently he was dedicated 118 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: enough that his mom had to kind of encourage him 119 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 1: to go along with five other friends of his two 120 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 1: a week long vacation at Golden Sands in Bulgaria in July, 121 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 1: the end of June beginning of July. Um, he wasn't 122 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: going to go. In his IM said no, you should 123 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 1: should totally go. You you deserve a week off like this. 124 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 1: So he went. Yeah. So the um, it's a big 125 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: party scene Like I said, it is well known for 126 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 1: young people from all over Europe going to take advantage 127 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: of the resort deals, all inclusive places, the cheap booze, 128 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: plenty of drugs to be had. Um Lars was the 129 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 1: life of the party, according to his friends. Um as 130 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: I saw it anywhere from three to five friends. I 131 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: know for sure, two guys, and I think these were 132 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: his high school mates who were most prominent, named Tim 133 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: Schultz and Paul Roman Um. But they were hanging out, 134 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: going to the beach playing soccer. Uh. The one weird 135 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: thing that I think people may have made too much 136 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: about online as far as internet sleuthing goes is his 137 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: friends remarked that he didn't have much of an appetite 138 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: on the trip, was eating like soup and salad and fruit, 139 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:57,239 Speaker 1: whereas they were, you know as an all inclusive resort, 140 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: so they were just like feasting on everything, and I 141 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: think they thought it was odd that he wasn't. But 142 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: I don't make a whole lot about that. Yeah, neither 143 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: did that one Redator slash documentary and who said that 144 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: he apparently had kind of gotten he had been on 145 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: a health kick, so he was kind of watching what 146 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 1: he ate a little more. Um. Yeah, some people have 147 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: been like, there's your there's your answer right there, that 148 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: that explains it all. Yeah, basically. Um So, I mean 149 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: the week went by pretty uneventfully. I think one of 150 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: his friends later said on TV or in an interview that, um, 151 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:33,839 Speaker 1: it went by really quick. Um. On one of they 152 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: think the second to last day, they went to watch 153 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 1: a World Cup match. The World Cup in Brazil was 154 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: going on at the time, and UM, you may not 155 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: know this about Europe, but they're really crazy about soccer. 156 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: Uh so much so that they have their own word 157 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: for it football, which is goofy. But that's the way 158 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,839 Speaker 1: it goes. And so they went to um this bar 159 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: rock bar or okay, b a r um which sounds 160 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: like a cool place, and they watched the match, I 161 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 1: think Costa Rica and the Netherlands. And while they were there, UM, 162 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 1: there were a bunch of soccer fans. They're watching this 163 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: from all different clubs and countries, and there were some kids, 164 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: I guess who were recent high school graduates and we're 165 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: fans of FC Byron, which is the rival to UH 166 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 1: Verder Bremen. And I guess they kind of got into 167 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: it verbally only with um with Lars and his friends. Yeah, 168 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: and I also saw places that there was actual physical confrontation. 169 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: We don't know for sure, but we do know that 170 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 1: it wasn't the biggest deal and it wasn't the big 171 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: fight that happened later on. Um, after this night out, 172 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: the guys apparently go to this McDonald's which is kind 173 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: of an open air um order than open air window 174 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 1: kind of thing, and Lars didn't want to eat because 175 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: I guess he was on that health kick, and he 176 00:09:56,400 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: sort of just stood nearby while his two buddies were ordering. Um, 177 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 1: they got their food, they turned around, he wasn't there. 178 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 1: They don't see him for the rest of the night. 179 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 1: But like I said, it's sort of like, you know, 180 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:11,839 Speaker 1: spring break party central. So if one of your friends 181 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: disappears for the night, and you're a bunch of dudes, 182 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 1: you might just think like, all right, well, you know, 183 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: maybe he ended up meeting somebody, or maybe he just 184 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: went out and partied some more. But it didn't send 185 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: up these huge alarms that he didn't come back that night. Yeah. So, um, 186 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 1: when he did show up again, I don't know if 187 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 1: it was later that night or the next morning. Um, 188 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 1: he said that he had been beaten up, actually jumped 189 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 1: by three or four Bulgarian guys, um, and that he 190 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 1: had gone to duck when one of them threw a 191 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:47,439 Speaker 1: punch and it acts actually taken a punch in his ear, 192 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 1: which is a terrible place to get punched. And he 193 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: said that he was quite convinced that it was those kids, 194 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 1: those high school kids, um, who were fans of Byron 195 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 1: FC Byron, that they've gotten into it with at the 196 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: are earlier that night, UM, because apparently they had said 197 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: this is just I only saw this in one place 198 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: that they had said that. Um, they had shouted that 199 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: it's easy to get to pay somebody to beat other 200 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: people up in Bulgaria. And so this happened close enough 201 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 1: and close enough proximity to that other altercation that he 202 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: just assumed that's why those guys jumped him. I mean, 203 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,679 Speaker 1: there's apparently there was no other explanation for it. So 204 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: that was his story. He showed up with an injured 205 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: ear in the story that he had been jumped by 206 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:37,319 Speaker 1: some local bar Bulgarians. Yeah, and his friends apparently didn't 207 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: necessarily believe that story because he wasn't you know, he 208 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 1: didn't have black eyes or bloody knows or anything. He 209 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: looked fine and he was acting fine, so they weren't 210 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 1: too sure about that story. Um Again, with the internet, sluice, 211 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 1: I've seen people saying that, like he totally made up 212 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 1: the story about the fight. But that is all just 213 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 1: people speculating online. I know if you ever want to 214 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 1: see people just take a piece of information and then 215 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: spin it to the ant due the most extreme possible 216 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:10,439 Speaker 1: interpretation of it, that you could do worse than hang 217 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: out on the internet. Uh. So he goes to a doctor, 218 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:19,599 Speaker 1: he gets the diagnosis of a ruptured ear drum. Apparently 219 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 1: went and saw a specialist at a hospital who confirmed it. 220 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 1: Said you should get surgery, and Large is like, great, 221 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: but I'm not getting that here. I'm gonna go back 222 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: come to Germany if I'm gonna get surgery. Uh. And 223 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: then this is sort of one of the keys is 224 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: he was given uh an antibiotic name uh seff rock Sime, 225 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: and he was given the strongest possible dosage, which was 226 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: about I think it was five yes, and that's a 227 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: just a general I think a cephlexin based antibiotic um 228 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: that doesn't really usually have many side effects, and if 229 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 1: it does, have side effects. It's typically something like an 230 00:12:56,480 --> 00:13:00,040 Speaker 1: upset stomach. I saw that there's a condition where it 231 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:03,959 Speaker 1: turns huge patches of your skin very dark all over 232 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 1: the place, almost like your highlights have been shaded. Um, 233 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 1: it's really interesting to look at. But that's that's has 234 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: nothing to do with any other anything that that Lars exhibited, 235 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: any behavior he exhibited. Um, the it's just antibiotics. I mean, 236 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: if you've ever taken antibiotics, you know that there's not 237 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:29,959 Speaker 1: really usually many side effects to it. Right, So uh, 238 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 1: Lars catches um, well again, different information. I saw that 239 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: his friends we're gonna stay with him, he insisted they leave. 240 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 1: So his friends eventually do catch that original flight out 241 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 1: and large stays behind. Um, you know, because of his ear. 242 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 1: He was a little concerned about obviously, with changes in 243 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:54,839 Speaker 1: the atmosphere on pressurization on a plane. He didn't think 244 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 1: it was a good idea. And I'm not sure if 245 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 1: that original doctor told him that might have been a problem, 246 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 1: but he knew it was going to be a problem. 247 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 1: So a little bit about that original doctor. I saw 248 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 1: that from the rehdator who said that he spoke to 249 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 1: the guys to his mother that his mother said that 250 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 1: that Lars said that the doctor didn't really treat him. 251 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: The first one did and said you should go to 252 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: a specialist. But then when he went to the specialist, 253 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 1: a specialist said like, wouldn't speak to him in English, 254 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 1: and and Lars felt he had mocked him, and that 255 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: apparently Sandra thought that that was really significant because that 256 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 1: was not a word that Lars typically used. But he 257 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: still managed to get the antibiotic from the doctor. The 258 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: thing about the perforated or ruptured ear drum is I 259 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: was looking on the internet, it turns out, and the 260 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 1: National Health Service says that if you have a perforated 261 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: ear drum, it would probably actually make flying more comfortable, 262 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: not more dangerous. So I can understand Laws being worried 263 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 1: about that, not being a trained medical professional, but if 264 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: he's encountering at least three other medical professionals in Bulgaria, 265 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: you would think one of them would be like, actually, no, 266 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 1: that's you're you're actually better offline like this, or or 267 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 1: would at the very least be like, you don't have 268 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 1: to worry about that at all. It's not that's not 269 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: a thing interesting. Yeah, so too, All right, well, let's 270 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: take a break and we will come back and talk 271 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: about what happened after his friends left Lars alone in Bulgaria. 272 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 1: Right after this, all right, so large as buddies go 273 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 1: back home to Germany, Lars has left there by himself, 274 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: which is at the key as far as understanding that 275 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 1: they weren't worried about him. He wasn't behaving weird. He 276 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: seemed fine. He seemed like Lars. Otherwise one of them 277 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: probably would have raised some sort of alarm bells and 278 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: been like, hey, maybe we should stay here, but they 279 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: said he seemed relaxed, he was in a good mood, 280 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: and so they took off. Um, being summer, Lars had 281 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: a hard time getting a hotel room because everything was 282 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 1: booked up and he was staying on extra. So he 283 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: ends up having to check into the Hotel Color Varna, 284 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: which was a really seedy place that this cab driver 285 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 1: takes him to. Apparently a lot of drug dealers, a 286 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 1: lot of sex workers, but that was kind of the 287 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: only place available. And um, we don't know a lot 288 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: about what happened that night other than these phone calls 289 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: and texts that he exchanges with his mom. So one 290 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: thing though about the Hotel Color I looked at it. 291 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 1: Trip Advisor gives it a four out of five, and 292 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: booking dot Com has it at seven point eight out 293 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 1: of ten. And it is definitely cheap. I think rooms 294 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 1: are like twenty five American dollars a night, which is 295 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: suspiciously cheap. And that yeah, there is like probably some 296 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 1: criminal activity there, but that it's not like it's not 297 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 1: like a trap house hotel or anything like that. But 298 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 1: it was the fact that it was his only option 299 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: I think kind of tells you quite a bit too 300 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:24,880 Speaker 1: about it. Sure, so um he goes to this hotel, 301 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: he checks in. Apparently the person behind the counter made 302 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 1: a copy of photo copy of his credit card, and 303 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 1: according to his mother, that did not sit very well 304 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 1: with lars Um. And at eleven PM, after he's checked 305 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 1: into the hotel, he calls his mom. I think it's 306 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: the first phone first of many phone calls that evening, 307 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 1: and he tells her that he wants her to block 308 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: his credit card because he's kind of sketched out by 309 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:54,640 Speaker 1: this hotelier who has made a photo copy of his card. 310 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 1: He's worried that they're going to use it for fraud 311 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: and he can just unfreeze it when he gets back. 312 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 1: That's the first phone call all he makes. Yeah, there 313 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: ends up being another call where he has left the hotel. 314 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:09,640 Speaker 1: He said that he was hiding on a hill. Uh, 315 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 1: and I think he even said that he was at 316 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 1: risk of falling, So it must have been sort of 317 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:19,400 Speaker 1: some sort of a really steep type of situation, I guess, um. 318 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 1: But he said that there were four men after him, 319 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 1: that we're trying to kill him, or that intended to 320 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 1: kill him at least, And he said, don't call me 321 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:29,640 Speaker 1: back because my phone I don't want my phone to ring. 322 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 1: I'm not sure I knew he didn't have a smartphone 323 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:34,880 Speaker 1: with him. He left that at home and brought sort 324 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 1: of a cheaper phone, so I don't know if it 325 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: didn't have a way to turn the ringer off or not, 326 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: or if he was just not thinking clearly, but he 327 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 1: said not to call him back. He eventually texts his 328 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 1: mom what is Sarah? Fam five hundred, which was at antibiotic, which, um, 329 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 1: you might think means like he's feeling weird and like, 330 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 1: what is this? I've taken that to me says that 331 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 1: that if he was behaving weirdly or experiencing some different behavior, 332 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 1: that he guessed that that's what it was. That's the 333 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:08,879 Speaker 1: only explanation for that, because they found that he had 334 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: taken three of them. So, Um, he knew that he 335 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 1: had that in his system, which I guess if he 336 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:18,919 Speaker 1: was acting weird, maybe that's what he thought it was. 337 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:22,120 Speaker 1: That's what sticks out to me. Yeah, And I think 338 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 1: was that it was either that night or the following morning. 339 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: When he asks, I think it was the following morning. Um, 340 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: you know, she had booked a flight home for him. 341 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:34,120 Speaker 1: He doesn't get back in touch with her, which really 342 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 1: worries her. But the next morning he does get back 343 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:40,880 Speaker 1: in touch. There's two days after this bar fight. She's relieved. 344 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 1: He says, he's going to go to the airport and uh, 345 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 1: can he get five euros? Uh wired, you know, moneygrammed 346 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:53,640 Speaker 1: or whatever? Western What did they have Western Union over there? Yeah? 347 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 1: Supposedly there's a real detail in there, and that it 348 00:19:56,480 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 1: was Western Union. Well what's the what makes Western Union important? 349 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 1: So his mother had never heard of Western Union and 350 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: laws hadn't either, But apparently he talked to another German 351 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 1: tourist at the airport who had told him to use it, 352 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 1: and he was able to describe to his mom how 353 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: to use Western Union in a way that she understood 354 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 1: how to use Western Union after he explained it, which 355 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 1: said to his mom that he had his wits about him. 356 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: He wasn't out of his mind, He wasn't um wasted 357 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: on drugs or anything like that. He was very much 358 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 1: with it mentally, alright. So he um and I saw 359 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 1: two different things here. Either his mom urged him to 360 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 1: go to the airport doctor just to make sure he's 361 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 1: good to fly, or there was some requirement that he 362 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: do so. But either way, he goes to the airport 363 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 1: medical center. And this is where things get a little confusing, because, uh, 364 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:53,199 Speaker 1: it's really all over the place whether or not he 365 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 1: goes in right away or whether he goes in later. 366 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 1: But he apparently calls his mom tells her, hey, they 367 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,719 Speaker 1: said I shouldn't fly or drive. But he hadn't even 368 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:06,439 Speaker 1: gone to see the doctor at that point. Uh. And 369 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:08,400 Speaker 1: then once he does see the doctor, the doctor ends 370 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 1: up giving a few different versions of what happened while 371 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 1: he was in there, which is, either, you know, some 372 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 1: people think that looks really shady. I think it could 373 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: have just been like at the time, this doctor, you know, 374 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: you're not making some really big mental notes about the 375 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 1: random patient that comes in, like this guy is going 376 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 1: to be an international mystery in an hour. Yeah. So 377 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 1: you know, it could have been innocent that heads his 378 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 1: story changed, or it could be sad. It could be 379 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: so for from uh, from what I saw that the 380 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 1: doctor UM changed the story three times and that airline 381 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:45,199 Speaker 1: employee came in, uh. And then later it was an 382 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 1: airport employee came in, which I think kind of across 383 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 1: the internet became a construction worker because that the airport 384 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 1: had recently undergone or was undergoing renovations. And then I 385 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: guess the third story was that the doctor said that 386 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 1: no one had come in uh, and that Lars had 387 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:03,919 Speaker 1: excused himself to go to the toilet and did not 388 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 1: come back. The doctor was expecting to come back. He 389 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: just never came back with the doctor didn't know uh 390 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 1: if that was in fact what happened was that Lars 391 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 1: wasn't coming back because he was sprinting through the airport 392 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 1: and running out of the airport and into the surrounding countryside. Yeah. 393 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: And in the version where someone does come in, UM, 394 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: what that means is is that literally a human being 395 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 1: another person walks into the examination room and apparently really 396 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 1: freaked out if if that version is correct, really freaked 397 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 1: out Lars, who was already obviously feeling a little bit 398 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 1: paranoid and was like, what is this person doing in here? 399 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 1: In the one version of the story, the doctor tries 400 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 1: to explain, Hey, it's just a construction guy, or no, 401 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 1: this is an airline employee that's going to actually walk 402 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 1: you to the plane. Um, it's a little frustrating to 403 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 1: not know the exact truth, but no matter what happens, 404 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 1: we do know that he's rented from the airport because 405 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: that part is actually on YouTube and on CCTV, And 406 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 1: that's why he's the most famous disappeared person on YouTube, 407 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: because it's very compelling to watch this uh young kid 408 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,439 Speaker 1: drop all and you don't see him drop his stuff, 409 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 1: but clearly he walks in with a backpack in a 410 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 1: duffel bag and he sprints with nothing in his hands 411 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 1: at like full you know, twenty one year old athletic 412 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 1: gallop out of there as if someone is chasing him. Yeah. So, 413 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 1: but there's a couple of weird things about it. If 414 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 1: you watch the video and and again you can go 415 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 1: anywhere on the internet and see this. I think it's 416 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: a good thirty seconds of it, um cut together that 417 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 1: he is running in the airport, and then when he 418 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: gets outside he kind of like walks and then jogs 419 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 1: a little bit and runs some more. But then I 420 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 1: saw somebody on I think it was read at two 421 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 1: on a different post um they're they're unresolved mysteries group 422 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 1: is just really good. Um. But somebody pointed out that 423 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 1: if you watch him, he's not really like looking behind him. 424 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:06,479 Speaker 1: He's not he's not looking to see somebody coming after him. Um. 425 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 1: And it kind of puts a different spin on things 426 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 1: because you do think, well, surely he's running for his life, 427 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,879 Speaker 1: but if you're running for your life, it does seem 428 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 1: like you would be a lot more concerned about who 429 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 1: was coming after you and would probably look behind you 430 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 1: a little more. He doesn't quite do that. Actually, he's 431 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:26,479 Speaker 1: it's a very strange run, but it's also not like 432 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,399 Speaker 1: the run of a person who's out of their mind. 433 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 1: That's a That was what stood out to me is 434 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 1: that he doesn't seem to at all be out of 435 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 1: his mind. Yeah, and another couple of details here, um 436 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 1: that was tough to verify. Supposedly, in the doctor's office, 437 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 1: he said, I don't want to die here. I have 438 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 1: to get out of here. Uh. I don't know if 439 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 1: that's true or not, but um, supposedly that's what he said. 440 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: And then the mom, Sandra evidently saw she went over 441 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 1: there um to you know, do her own investigat ing 442 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 1: obviously right after it happened, and supposedly saw footage directly 443 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:08,160 Speaker 1: from the airport that had a lot of different stuff 444 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: that was not included in the footage that went to 445 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: the police. And she said in the footage that she 446 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: saw was that when he leaves the airport, he stands 447 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 1: there like checks his pocket as if he's checking to 448 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 1: make sure he has his passport and his wallet and stuff, 449 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 1: and kind of looks around and orients himself for a minute, 450 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 1: like should I go this way? Should I go that way? Um? 451 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 1: If you look at other places on the internet and 452 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 1: you just look at that footage, it looks like he 453 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 1: just bolts from the airport and then continues to either 454 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 1: kind of walk or jog and never stops, never checks 455 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 1: his pockets, never orients himself at all. Yeah, So he 456 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,679 Speaker 1: actually walks within um, twenty feet of a couple of 457 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,959 Speaker 1: cops who are standing talking to one another in the 458 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:54,160 Speaker 1: parking lot. He walks past them. Um, he goes behind 459 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 1: the sand pile and then eventually goes over. I think, 460 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 1: is it actually on camera him going over of the 461 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 1: fence or is it just presumed that he went over 462 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 1: the fence. Now it's on camera, but it's one of 463 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 1: those things where it's like they had to circle and 464 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 1: highlight him because he's so far in the distance. But 465 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 1: he he goes over a barbed wire fence into a 466 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:16,120 Speaker 1: full bloom sunflower field, which are very very tall and 467 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,479 Speaker 1: literally disappears never to be seen again now. And on 468 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 1: the other side of that sunflower field, very importantly is 469 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 1: the a two highway, so who knows what happened. And 470 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 1: then beyond that there's a lot of woods. I wouldn't 471 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: call it like the most densely forested place on earth, 472 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,680 Speaker 1: but there's a pretty decent sized woods around there. There's 473 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 1: also a lot of farm fields too that's exposed and 474 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,959 Speaker 1: out in the open, but there's a highway on the 475 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: other side of it, and that's to me, is is 476 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 1: extremely important. All Right, Should we take another break? Yes, alright, 477 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 1: we're gonna take another break and bring it home with 478 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,120 Speaker 1: what happened from there and then some of the theories 479 00:26:51,160 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 1: about what happened to large mat talk. Yeah, so Chuck, 480 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 1: just to recap Lars Matonk has fled. There's a really 481 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 1: good way to put it, the airport leaving behind in 482 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 1: the doctor's office all of his stuff, including his wallet, phone, 483 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:39,119 Speaker 1: and passport. Now, is that verified? I saw that basically everywhere, 484 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 1: including speculating that she saw him checking is. Yeah, I didn't. 485 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 1: I thought that was very confusing. But I saw it 486 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 1: in the sun which I realized is not the most 487 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,639 Speaker 1: credible source, but sadly it is one of the most 488 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: credible sources when it comes to researching this case. Um, 489 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:59,120 Speaker 1: I saw it on a Yale um article. It's it's 490 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 1: basically every rewere that his wallet, passport and phone were 491 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 1: left behind. Um, I I be. But I mean that's 492 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:11,399 Speaker 1: a really good point, Like we're totally we're lost in 493 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 1: the sunflower field. As far as that stuff concerns, we 494 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 1: we don't know. We've got to get our hands on 495 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,679 Speaker 1: the police report. UM. And even that I read when 496 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 1: when Lars's mom hired um Bulgarian lawyer as an investigator. Um, 497 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:30,919 Speaker 1: they got weird conflicting information about you know, what was 498 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,919 Speaker 1: found with him or not, or what was what was 499 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 1: left behind by him or not. So even his mom 500 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 1: probably couldn't say for certain what was there. Yeah, I 501 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 1: get the picture that it was a frustrating experience working 502 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 1: with the Bulgarian police. Um. It seems like the Germany 503 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 1: got involved with interpoll, but they had some frustrations as well. 504 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 1: There's there's some speculation that they intentionally kind of um 505 00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,239 Speaker 1: kept the story on the download because they didn't want 506 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 1: it to affect to her is him? Yeah, I could 507 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 1: see that. Other people say that, well maybe not that, 508 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 1: but it just wasn't widely known it was some German kid. Uh, 509 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 1: it wasn't all over the newspapers, and so people, you know, 510 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 1: they didn't necessarily even know what was going on if 511 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: they saw this flyer, or they maybe not have. Maybe 512 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 1: they didn't even run it on the evening news. Yeah, 513 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 1: and so like if it was three weeks four weeks 514 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 1: after the disappearance, that like news started to really spread, 515 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 1: or maybe news never really spread. If you were a 516 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 1: driver and you gave a kid a ride on the 517 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 1: A two highway outside of the airport, um, you might 518 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 1: not have ever put two and two together or um, 519 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 1: if you saw some kid running through a field into 520 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 1: the woods. You might not have ever heard of Lars 521 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 1: Matonk either. So, um, there's it's possible there's people out 522 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 1: there with information who just aren't aren't don't know to 523 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 1: cough it up, although that's probably exceedingly unlikely these days 524 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 1: because of the exposure that this story has gotten. Yeah, 525 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 1: one interesting tidbit is that they did find that those 526 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 1: five hundred euros were untouched in his account. Um, and 527 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 1: I don't think we mentioned I think some people speculate 528 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 1: the fact that it was five hundred euros on the 529 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 1: nose and that it was Western Union and he had 530 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 1: never used it meant that he was being told by 531 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 1: somebody to get five hundred euros wired via this way. 532 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 1: But again that's just internet speculation. Well, I also saw 533 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 1: that it was his mom's decision. He just asked her 534 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 1: to wire him some money, some money he had decided 535 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 1: that that that was according to that documentarian who knows, 536 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 1: we really need to get sounder ma talk on here, dude. Um. 537 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 1: One of the cool things that happened through this through 538 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 1: his mother investigating this is various leads came in over 539 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 1: the years, like hey, there's this guy that speaks German. 540 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 1: He could be Lars. She would go check it out, 541 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 1: there's this other guy. Uh oh. Over the years, she 542 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 1: has ended up finding fifteen German expatriots in Bulgaria somewhere addicts, 543 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 1: some were mentally ill, uh, Some were actually reunited with 544 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 1: their families, some didn't want to be reunited. But she 545 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 1: found all these people, so like every time that happened, 546 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 1: it gave her hope that even though the chances, you know, 547 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 1: with a case like this is if you don't find 548 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 1: this person within the first you know, a few days 549 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 1: or the first week, it's like very slim to no chance. 550 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 1: All of these things gave her hope that she could 551 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 1: if she just kept at it, that she might eventually 552 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 1: find her son. Yeah. I was really surprised to see 553 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 1: that there was a statin here that said that something 554 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 1: like only three percent of missing persons cases aren't resolved 555 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 1: within the first year in Germany. Yeah, not even in Germany, 556 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 1: but among German citizens. Yeah, I thought it would be 557 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 1: a lot higher than that. But that's that's actually not 558 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 1: not bad as far as I can tell. Yeah. So, yeah, 559 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 1: one of those people, by the way, um who was 560 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 1: found that was thought to be. There's like a whole 561 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 1: thing where people are following this case and anytime uh 562 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,959 Speaker 1: something ends up on the internet, uh, it ends up 563 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 1: being passed along to Sandra Matonk who will basically post 564 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 1: on her Instagram like, hey, uh, this was sent from 565 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 1: this town. Can somebody go see if they can find 566 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 1: this homeless guy and and get me more pictures of 567 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:24,959 Speaker 1: them so we can figure out if it's Lars. Like 568 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 1: she does this kind of frequently. There was one where 569 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 1: a guy turned up in Brazil who looks a lot 570 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 1: like Lars, but disheveled with the beard and his hair 571 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 1: kind of crazy. Uh. And that turned out to be 572 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 1: a different man Um who was missing from British Columbia 573 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 1: named Anton Pilpa, who was reunited with his family after 574 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 1: five years. And they think that he hitch hike, hitchhiked 575 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 1: and walked from British Columbia down to Brazil um and 576 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 1: then kind of lived around uh Rio. I think Rio 577 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 1: um on his own for a while during a mental 578 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 1: break man. Uh So some of the theories over the 579 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 1: years that have been formed, um, the one that seems 580 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 1: the most obvious to me is that along with the 581 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 1: ear injury, there was some sort of a head injury, 582 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 1: maybe a concussion left untreated that led to erratic behavior 583 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 1: and paranoia maybe, and that you know, once he had 584 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 1: left and had no money and no phone and no passport, Uh, 585 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 1: he sort of was just sort of perhaps lost his 586 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 1: memory and lost in Bulgaria and still lost in Bulgaria. Yeah, 587 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 1: that's entirely possible, especially if it was a head injury 588 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 1: that was getting worse and worse by the hour. Um. 589 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 1: That could definitely explain the erratic behavior of leaving his 590 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 1: stuff and running through the airport and jumping the fence 591 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 1: into a sunflower field, Because if you think about it, 592 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 1: everything up to that point you can explain by him 593 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 1: being intimidated in a hotel he didn't feel comfortable in 594 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 1: um by some guys who aimed to rob him. And 595 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 1: even if those guys didn't aim to rob him, just 596 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,799 Speaker 1: him thinking that they were going to rob him explains 597 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 1: everything else up to that point. The thing that makes 598 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:19,760 Speaker 1: it inexplicable as far as I'm concerned is him leaving 599 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 1: the airport the way they did and potentially leaving everything behind. 600 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 1: That throws everything out the window and actually makes the 601 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 1: idea of a traumatic brain injury a lot more um 602 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 1: possible in my mind. The problem is that if that's 603 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,759 Speaker 1: what happened to him, it's really possible that he's up there, 604 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 1: you know, out in the woods somewhere still and just 605 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 1: hasn't been found and is is dead probably by now. Yeah, 606 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 1: I suppose he could have just you know, wandered into 607 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 1: a town and assimilated. Well. His mom apparently does believe 608 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,719 Speaker 1: that he's still out there, which is why she tries 609 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 1: to shake down every lead she can, but thinks that 610 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,439 Speaker 1: he does have memory loss and that that's why he's 611 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 1: still out there just and is never her contacted her. 612 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 1: Another theory is that, you know, maybe everything he said 613 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:09,279 Speaker 1: is true, maybe there were men following him. Maybe it 614 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 1: had something to do with that fight, and these guys 615 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,239 Speaker 1: that may or may not have been hired to beat 616 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:19,800 Speaker 1: him up. Apparently the human trafficking in Bulgaria is a problem, 617 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 1: and maybe you know, a young, handsome, fit man like 618 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 1: Lars could have been a target for human trafficking and 619 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,280 Speaker 1: that he really like had every right to be anxious 620 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:34,760 Speaker 1: and nervous because otherwise he seemed like he was okay. Uh, 621 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 1: It's all very confusing and frustrating. I can't imagine what 622 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 1: Sandra Matonk has been going through for these years. So dude, 623 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 1: just can't even I mean, when you're when you have 624 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,279 Speaker 1: when you don't have closure like that, your imagination is 625 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,840 Speaker 1: left to just fill in whatever blanks. And you know, 626 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 1: in a situation like that, people's imaginations tended to go 627 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,880 Speaker 1: to the darkest places. I can't imagine the stuff that 628 00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,319 Speaker 1: she's come up with or that people have suggested to 629 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,400 Speaker 1: her too, you know, being caught up in it and 630 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 1: forgetting like this is the mom, Like this is real 631 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:05,440 Speaker 1: to her, this is her life. This isn't just something 632 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:10,520 Speaker 1: on the internet. But what about the trucker. Oh, so 633 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 1: that's one of the leads. Um, uh, that there was 634 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 1: a trucker in uh what where was it? Brandenburg? The 635 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,320 Speaker 1: trucker So there was a trucker that in two thousand 636 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 1: nineteen picked up a hitchhiker in Dresden and drove him 637 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:27,280 Speaker 1: all the way to Brandenburg. I guess, um and uh. 638 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:29,879 Speaker 1: He said later on he didn't know about the Lars 639 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:31,960 Speaker 1: Matonk case at the time, but he said later on 640 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 1: he found out about it and said, oh man, that's 641 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 1: got to be the kid that I picked up. And so, um, 642 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,880 Speaker 1: his His mom shook down the story, and I don't 643 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,959 Speaker 1: think that she ever got in touch at the truck 644 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 1: driver else. The truck driver was just like, here's what 645 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 1: I think, but I can't. I can't say either way, 646 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:50,960 Speaker 1: and I don't know where he went. So there's like 647 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,800 Speaker 1: a beyond the lookout among you know, Lars matonk watchers 648 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:59,240 Speaker 1: in Brandenburg. From that story. Yeah, there was another stuff 649 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 1: like that that kept her owen totally. Um. I saw 650 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,960 Speaker 1: there was another one about a man in Dusseldorf UM 651 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 1: that the whole thing lasted for about two hours. That's 652 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 1: how fast things get done. She posted pictures that somebody 653 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,320 Speaker 1: had sent her of a man, a homeless man in 654 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 1: Dusseldorf UM, and asked for more pictures than they Within 655 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,960 Speaker 1: two hours, the coptain Dusseldorf had picked the guy up 656 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:22,399 Speaker 1: and verified that it was not Lars. Yeah, I mean, 657 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:26,200 Speaker 1: I think the head injury and loss of memory, like 658 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 1: he would want to get back to Germany. By all accounts, 659 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:30,880 Speaker 1: he had a good life and enjoyed his job, was 660 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:35,719 Speaker 1: a pretty happy guy and loved Germany. UM. So like 661 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 1: the idea of him choosing to stay there of his 662 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 1: own like sound mind just doesn't seem likely at all. No, 663 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 1: And unfortunately that really strongly suggests foul play as a 664 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:49,080 Speaker 1: possibility to the fact that he has not turned up, 665 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:52,359 Speaker 1: he has every reason to, like you said, turned turned 666 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,280 Speaker 1: back up again, get back to his life. I saw 667 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 1: that um this on the State Department's website for Bulgarian 668 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:03,560 Speaker 1: human trafficking. Like, Bulgaria does have a human trafficking problem, 669 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 1: but it seems to be typically targeting Bulgarians, especially Romani 670 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:12,400 Speaker 1: people um who end up getting forced to beg on 671 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 1: the streets, are forced into hard labor if you're a man. 672 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:19,279 Speaker 1: Um that it doesn't necessarily target tourists, and I think 673 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:22,520 Speaker 1: the Bulgarian officials would probably not put up with that 674 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:26,480 Speaker 1: because it would harm tourism so dramatically. So it's fairly 675 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,480 Speaker 1: unlikely that like a blonde German guy named you know, 676 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 1: Lars would be would end up begging on the streets 677 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,920 Speaker 1: of France at the behest of the Bulgarian mafia. And 678 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:39,280 Speaker 1: I also saw another theory that he was a drug 679 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,719 Speaker 1: mule and he flipped out, was scared he was gonna 680 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:46,200 Speaker 1: get caught, and ran out of the airport. What really 681 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,879 Speaker 1: kind of undermines that theory is that no drugs were 682 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:52,400 Speaker 1: found in his stuff, so it's possible he took drugs. 683 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:53,960 Speaker 1: A lot of people are like, well, clearly he was 684 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,879 Speaker 1: on drugs, Like, why else would you do that? Um, 685 00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,480 Speaker 1: that's a possibility as well. But again, if you really 686 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:05,000 Speaker 1: look at some of his behavior, um it the yes, 687 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:06,719 Speaker 1: the fact that he ran out of the airport and 688 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,600 Speaker 1: jumped over a fence, that's erratic behavior. But if you 689 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:13,160 Speaker 1: look at the way he was behaving during that erratic behavior, 690 00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,960 Speaker 1: he's not acting erratic. If that makes any sense. It's 691 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:20,040 Speaker 1: it's it's just it's one of the most bizarre mysteries 692 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:23,560 Speaker 1: I've ever heard. So kudos to you and uh Dave 693 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:27,279 Speaker 1: Meischner for coming up with this one. Yeah. I knew 694 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,480 Speaker 1: nothing about it until Dave sent it, So way to go, Dave. Yeah, 695 00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:32,359 Speaker 1: we need to spend more time on YouTube. I guess 696 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,520 Speaker 1: we can totally missed this one, so we can go 697 00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,600 Speaker 1: back to vid gun. Right, do you got anything else? Nope? 698 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:39,640 Speaker 1: All right, Well, if you want to know more about 699 00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,160 Speaker 1: Lar's matonk go out and solve the mystery, will you, 700 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 1: at least for his dear mother's sake, And since we 701 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,439 Speaker 1: said his dear mother's sake, it's time for a listener mail. 702 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:51,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna call this this is another kid right and 703 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:56,680 Speaker 1: in Uh, this is actually from dad. My son Hans 704 00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:01,759 Speaker 1: colored a picture of you podcasting today, prompted, which did 705 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:03,560 Speaker 1: you see this picture? No, I gotta bring it up. 706 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,279 Speaker 1: It was very cute, which I thought was awesome. I 707 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:07,759 Speaker 1: said we should send it to Josh and Chuck in 708 00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:09,839 Speaker 1: his eyes lit up. He wrote out what he wanted 709 00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,000 Speaker 1: to type in an email to you, and I thought 710 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,600 Speaker 1: it was better to just send you his note. I've 711 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 1: been listening to the show for the last ten years 712 00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,560 Speaker 1: or so, and introduce my son a few months ago. 713 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,839 Speaker 1: We read books before bed, including yours, and then listen 714 00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,880 Speaker 1: to the podcast as he falls asleep. I'm thankful that 715 00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:26,680 Speaker 1: I'm able to share this with Hans. He's a smart 716 00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:30,240 Speaker 1: kid with incredible memory, so we'll often bring up facts 717 00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:33,680 Speaker 1: he's learned from you guys, which I had already forgotten. Uh. 718 00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:37,520 Speaker 1: And the picture, what's adorable? What's the name of the 719 00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:43,600 Speaker 1: guy who sent it? I'm looking for Sam Okay And Uh, 720 00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:47,160 Speaker 1: it's a picture with magic marker and you were sitting 721 00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:50,520 Speaker 1: upright at a table and he actually nailed it because 722 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:53,320 Speaker 1: you're on the left, you know, back in the before 723 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:56,080 Speaker 1: times when we were actually in our studio. He has 724 00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:57,680 Speaker 1: it right, you're on the left, I'm on the right. 725 00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,319 Speaker 1: I am. It looks like I'm passing out though I'm 726 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:05,239 Speaker 1: kind of slumped over. But he's got two little microphones 727 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:08,240 Speaker 1: and then two little pieces of paper with a handwritten 728 00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,719 Speaker 1: thing that says notes, pointing at the paper and says 729 00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:13,560 Speaker 1: I listen to your she almost every night. And then 730 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,120 Speaker 1: there's a handwritten letter which is great, which I'll read 731 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,839 Speaker 1: UH as best I can. I love your show, Chuck 732 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,960 Speaker 1: and Josh. Today I listened to your s y s 733 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:27,680 Speaker 1: K about ear wax. I told my mom and UH 734 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,359 Speaker 1: and had some of your tips. Hey, have you guys 735 00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:34,480 Speaker 1: made a football episode like Touchdown? But if not, can 736 00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,000 Speaker 1: you make one? I listen to almost all the episodes 737 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,840 Speaker 1: except ones that my parents don't let me watch. I 738 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:42,880 Speaker 1: also have your book. I have read some of the 739 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,360 Speaker 1: chapters in it and they are great. I like that 740 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,560 Speaker 1: you guys have different types of episodes, like short stuff 741 00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:52,640 Speaker 1: and just regular episodes. I'm your biggest fan. I'm the 742 00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:57,359 Speaker 1: second grade. Yours, sincerely, and that is Hans last name 743 00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,839 Speaker 1: redacted because he's a kid Hans, I was amazing. I'm 744 00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:02,560 Speaker 1: going to find the picture. I haven't been able to 745 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,040 Speaker 1: find it yet, but that was a beautiful letter. And 746 00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,919 Speaker 1: you have a super cool name by the way. Yes, 747 00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,280 Speaker 1: I love it, and thank you Dad, Sam and whoever 748 00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,719 Speaker 1: else is in the family helping to support the show. 749 00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:15,960 Speaker 1: We really appreciate it. Ye. Well, if you want to 750 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:18,840 Speaker 1: get in touch with us, like Hans, maybe try drawn 751 00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:22,600 Speaker 1: a picture. What are you waiting for? Um? We love pictures. 752 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,680 Speaker 1: You can send them off to us here at stuff 753 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:32,239 Speaker 1: podcast did iHeart radio dot com. Stuff you Should Know 754 00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:35,040 Speaker 1: is a production of iHeart Radio. 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