1 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: What did we just watch? God, Zach Erstman, Whippenberg Gang. Together, 2 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:11,639 Speaker 1: we try and try real hard to make sense of 3 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: what happened on Sunday. Cardinals get walked off for the 4 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 1: third straight game, but even more than that, an eighteen 5 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:21,920 Speaker 1: point lead, fifteen points going into the fourth quarter, and 6 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: then follow as Jonathan Gannon said, after, it felt like 7 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 1: they gave one away. It's Cardinals Cover two, Episode nine 8 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: thirty two, and it starts now. 9 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two. 10 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 3: Who to Baker? What Heart? 11 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 4: What rent? 12 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:39,919 Speaker 3: This guy's unbelievable? 13 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 2: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyundai, proud partner of 14 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals, and by Arizona Cardinals Podcast. Visit Azycardinals 15 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 2: dot com slash podcast. 16 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 3: He's ad the ten half of five. 17 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 4: He's it again, so more hurry magic. 18 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 2: Whow Here's Craigcriolo. 19 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: So i'd ask you, Zach how you're doing, But I 20 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: think I can speak for every Bird Gang member on 21 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 1: this Monday. It sucks losing, yes, but how the Cardinals 22 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: lost on Sunday twenty two to twenty one to the 23 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans on a walk off field goal for the 24 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: third straight week. 25 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 5: You make history for all the wrong reasons. In that case, 26 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 5: no other team has ever had this sort of fate 27 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 5: happen to them. It's it's a tough one because even 28 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 5: if the Cardinals would have went one in seventeen, I 29 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 5: would have still picked this as the one win against 30 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 5: the Tennessee. 31 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 4: Can't one and sixteen? 32 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,119 Speaker 3: There you go, there we go. I'm sorry, eighteen weeks season. 33 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 3: It's it. We've got to do, Matt, it's here now, 34 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 3: and it's. 35 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 4: Just not can you tell already? 36 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 3: It's it's one of those days. Look, it's one of 37 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 3: those days. 38 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 5: You felt it as the ladder as the game was 39 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 5: rolling on a little bit of oh boy, here this 40 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 5: goes again. Murray was asked about that and he said 41 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 5: he felt that as well. From the sidelines. It's a bummer. 42 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 5: It's a bummer because you've already been dealt really significant 43 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 5: news when it comes to the injury bug throughout the year. 44 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:16,399 Speaker 5: That it's something you've you lose your your star cornerbacks, 45 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 5: you lose your star running back, Garrett Williams is out, 46 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 5: Like there's so many different things, and then you lose 47 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 5: on a walk off field, go to San Francisco and 48 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 5: you go all right short week, we get to shake 49 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 5: it off here. Say we got the Seattle Seahawks, it's 50 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 5: the rivalryes game, it's exciting Jake from State Farms and attendance, 51 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 5: there's a lot of good John wil John has this 52 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 5: halftime show. And you lose that one and you say, dang, 53 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:45,119 Speaker 5: that stuck. But hey, we have a mini by here. 54 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 5: We're gonna shake it and you're gonna get right back 55 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 5: into the win column against the Tennessee Titans. And to 56 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 5: have that winless team remain winless and it just didn't happen. 57 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot didn't happen on Sunday. I want to 58 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: acknowledge this though before we dive further into the games. 59 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 1: That because typically although you were here a week ago Monday, 60 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: but typically on Mondays. Paul Caveci joins me and offers 61 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: the sideline perspective on what happens on game day. Paul 62 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: did not make the game, was not at State Farm 63 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 1: Stadium on Sunday. Want to extend our thoughts and prayers 64 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: to Paul and his family as he deals with a 65 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: family matter. Hope to see Paul back sooner rather than later. 66 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 1: But as they say, the show must go on. And 67 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: that is why mister Zach Krishman is in the seat 68 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: here on this Monday following a difficult, difficult loss to 69 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans. 70 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 3: YEP. 71 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 5: I can't provide the sideline perspective. I could provide the 72 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 5: press box perspective, the eagle eye view perspective, and it's just, look. 73 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 3: This is kind of I don't want to say that. 74 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 5: I don't want to just be depressed throughout the entire show, 75 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 5: but this was a tough one and I think that 76 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 5: there's gonna be a lot of evaluations inwards with it 77 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 5: when it comes to this team. It's I talked with 78 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 5: a handful of the guys after the game in the 79 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 5: locker room. More specifically, I spoke with Josh Sweat and 80 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 5: the locker room. I had a one on one with him, 81 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 5: and that story will be out, if not today then 82 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 5: potentially tomorrow or sometime this week on Ezycardinals dot com 83 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 5: about the Cardinals pass rush and Josh Sweat's UH and 84 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 5: development and involvement and involvement with this UH, with this 85 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 5: scheme now that it's kind of his second stint under 86 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 5: Jonathan again and we could possibly talk a little bit 87 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 5: more about that because he had a two SAT game 88 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 5: and he played really well against the Tennessee Titans. But 89 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 5: the players, they're they're frustrated. I also spoke with the 90 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 5: Mario de Mercado after the game as well, and you know, 91 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 5: kudos to the running back for at least still being 92 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 5: in the locker room and having to face all the noise. 93 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, it would have been very easy for Mari and 94 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: a lot of those players to just say, you know what, 95 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: not today, Uh can't do it, won't do it, and 96 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: catch me later. 97 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 4: Even on this Monday. 98 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: You feel it. I feel it. And that's how difficult 99 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: it is to kind of wrap your arms around what 100 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: happened on Sunday. Frank Sanders join me on Cardinal Talk 101 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: and even mentioned that this could be a potential loss 102 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 1: that lingers, not just the twenty four to forty eight 103 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: hour rule that the NFL has, but linger on into 104 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 1: the week and maybe even on game day, not until 105 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: you get into another situation in the fourth quarter, to 106 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 1: where you can prove to yourselves, not to anyone else, 107 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 1: but to yourselves, yes we can finish off a game. 108 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 1: Because the Cardinals didn't do it on Sunday, having done 109 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 1: it for the past three weeks to you hear Jonathan 110 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: Gannon talk postgame to reporters. Doesn't feel they've done it 111 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: at all this season as far as play consistent football 112 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 1: for a full sixty minutes, and it's it's. 113 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 4: Look I wrote. 114 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 1: I wrote down some notes, and the one word that 115 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 1: I keep going back to is weird. It was a 116 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: very weird game, at least for me. The weirdness as 117 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 1: far as certain events that happened that allowed the Tennessee 118 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: Titans to get back into a ballgame in which Zach 119 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 1: It could not have started any better for the Arizona Cardinals, 120 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:11,359 Speaker 1: scoring touchdowns on their first or three of their first 121 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: four drives, and all of a sudden, it's like, okay, Now, 122 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 1: there were some tweaks with the offense. The twelve and 123 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: thirteen personnel was back, but we saw Kyler Murray on 124 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 1: the move a little bit. The pocket was shifted, there 125 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: was some bootleg rollouts, and everyone was involved. Marvin Harrison 126 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 1: Junior targeted successfully and was showing his athleticism as far 127 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: as high pointing footballs between defenders. It looked great during 128 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 1: those first four drives and you're up twenty one to 129 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: three early in the second quarter, twenty one points early 130 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 1: in the second quarter, and you don't score another point 131 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: the rest of the way, and that is where everyone's going, 132 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: what the heck just happened? 133 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 4: How do you go from. 134 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 1: Twenty one points and a little over a quarter and 135 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden find it difficult to get 136 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:06,039 Speaker 1: back down. I wouldn't say get back down the end zone, 137 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 1: because they did, but they couldn't finish. Whether it was 138 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: the Amari drop or you get inside the red zone 139 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: and there's back to back penalties and then an intentional 140 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: grounding call and you're forced to punt the ball. 141 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 4: It just again weird. It was a very weird game 142 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 4: for me. 143 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 5: There's the expression when the ball doesn't bounce, when the 144 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 5: ball does not bounce your way. That happened multiple times 145 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 5: to the Cardinals team, and you just kind of look 146 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 5: at that as a metaphor, but it's exactly what ended 147 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 5: up happening. Ball swept out of Amari's hands or he 148 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 5: dropped in one way or another. He said, can't let 149 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 5: that happen. Can't not making any excuses about it. That 150 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 5: was Amari taking accountability. Obviously. Rabbit Tator Demerson has the interception. 151 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 5: Mac Wilson senior tips the pass, Taylor Demerson dives makes 152 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 5: a really nice interception. And because and it's funny because 153 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 5: there was talks about reporters and the coaching staff in 154 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 5: Tennessee if they don't know the rules. The rules are 155 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 5: Taylor Demmerson needs to be touched, Yes, on the ground, 156 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 5: otherwise he could get back up. And yes, he went 157 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 5: to the ground having possession with it, and then the 158 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 5: ball popped out as you rolled. If that was a 159 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 5: general play and he wasn't touched down, or if he 160 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 5: was an offensive player, he's down right there. But because 161 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 5: he's a defensive player, he has to be touched. Because 162 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 5: the ball rolled out hit off key trow Clark's knee 163 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 5: or off his foot, goes to the end zone, then 164 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 5: Tyler Lockett just jumps on it. And Craig is shaking 165 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 5: your head right now because it was that kind of play. 166 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 4: Believe it. 167 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:32,679 Speaker 1: Because from our vantage point in the press box, I 168 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: bring binoculars. Yes, my eyes are not as good as 169 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: maybe some others in the press box, I can fully 170 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 1: admit that. But I watched a lot of the game, 171 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: certainly on different parts of the field from where we 172 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 1: are in binoculars, and that was closer to the press 173 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: box side, but still I was I had the binknocks 174 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: out because where the Titans were. And hey, great tip 175 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 1: pass or great tip by MacWilson Senior. Gets his hand 176 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 1: on the football, floats, it floats up in the air. Okay, 177 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: ball loose, get that takeaway. Rabbit gets the ball, rolls over, 178 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 1: gets knock loose key Trell Clark either tries to fall 179 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: or whatever, loses his balance and then inadvertently kicks it 180 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: into the end zone and Tyler Lockett comes up with it. 181 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: And as I'm watching this play develops, I listened to 182 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 1: Dave Passion a Q Shipley on the broadcast, and Passion 183 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: is one of the best to do it ever and 184 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 1: does a great job as far as detail was on 185 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:30,839 Speaker 1: top of everything that particular play, But just watching and 186 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: hearing it and then you try to process it and 187 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 1: you're like, wait a second, you just had potentially a 188 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: game ending takeaway. Now all of a sudden, the Titans score, 189 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: they kick the pat there within two We've got a 190 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: ballgame here with four and a half minutes to go 191 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 1: on the ball left in the game. How did we 192 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: even wind up in this positions? 193 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 4: See there you go see the look verty bitchless. 194 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, and we're supposed to talk this Yeah, look berg Gang. 195 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 3: I know that we work for the team. 196 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 5: Obviously we have a different perspective, but you have to 197 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,679 Speaker 5: sometimes call it as it is. And this was a 198 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 5: sloppy loss. And this is something that, as I mentioned earlier, 199 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:19,439 Speaker 5: this coaching staff is going to need to look inward significantly. 200 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 5: Jonathan Gannon said he needs to go back to his 201 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 5: drawing board to try to figure out what they need 202 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 5: to do because I've seen people on social media and 203 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 5: granted the Twitter feed has been flooded with a lot 204 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:35,719 Speaker 5: of different things going out there about people targeting them. 205 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:38,319 Speaker 5: The way that the media has portrayed this Arizona Cardinals team. 206 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 5: This is an Arizona Cardinals team that is lost by 207 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 5: five combined points in three games. 208 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 3: This is a This is an. 209 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 5: Arizona Cardinals team that can be five and zero, which 210 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 5: is crazy to say right now because you're two and three. 211 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 5: But this is also an Arizona Cardinals team that could 212 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 5: have been zero to five in a lot of different ways. 213 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 5: It continues to go down to the last drive. It 214 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 5: goes to that that theme of finishing. You have them 215 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 5: on the ropes at halftime twenty one to three. I 216 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 5: don't know that. Sometimes twenty one six players sometimes talk 217 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 5: about halftime adjustments if they're a myth, if they're not 218 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 5: a myth. But whatever it is, you have to figure 219 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 5: out a way to continue to just stay on their 220 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 5: throat and not take your foot off the gas pedal. 221 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 5: The Cardinals did so well in that first quarter. You 222 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 5: started to see Kyler Murray celebrating and doing the power 223 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 5: slap celebration with Zay Jones and everybody else is there. 224 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 5: Marvin has the biggest smile on his face after making 225 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:37,079 Speaker 5: the big time forty plus yard reception that he had 226 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 5: mossing two defenders. I was trying to find that you 227 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 5: got Moss, Jiff and I couldn't find it. But you 228 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 5: got Moss over there in Tennessee. The running backs are 229 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 5: doing well. Michael Carter gets into the end zone, Bam 230 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:49,959 Speaker 5: Knight gets into the end zone, Kyler gets into the 231 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 5: end zone with the rushing touchdown, and then it just stopped. 232 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:57,439 Speaker 5: You have the next eight possessions, six punts, two fumbles. 233 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:01,319 Speaker 5: It's just it's a it's a tough one to comprehend, 234 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 5: for sure. 235 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:04,839 Speaker 1: First four possessions twenty one points one hundred and seventy 236 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:08,319 Speaker 1: three yards on twenty two plays, ten first downs, last 237 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: eight possessions zero points, one hundred and eighty four yards 238 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:16,199 Speaker 1: on forty two plays, six first downs. You mentioned punting 239 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 1: the ball six times. There were three and outs on 240 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,839 Speaker 1: four of those eight tries, meaning they didn't even get 241 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 1: a first down for the Arizona Cardinals. And that four 242 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: minute offense late in the game, can you milk the clock? 243 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 4: Third and eight? 244 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: You run the ball to get to the two minute warning, 245 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:36,679 Speaker 1: luck Burg Gang, I understand the decision why you ran 246 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 1: it there because you're hoping that the Titans were use 247 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 1: their final time out. 248 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 4: They didn't. 249 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 1: They chose to keep it in their pocket. Game gets 250 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: the two minute warning, and then all of a sudden, 251 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 1: they've got a little less than two minutes to go 252 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: plus a time out to get into field goal range, 253 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: and Joey Sly walks off. The Cardinals. Jonathan Gannon postgame 254 00:12:56,679 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 1: asked about it, and he just reiterated what I just 255 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 1: talked about. But he did say to your point, Zach, 256 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: that Okay, maybe we need to look at it differently. 257 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 4: Because you did take the. 258 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: Ball out of Kyler Murray's hands in that instance, and 259 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: we have seen across the league on those situations. Yeah, 260 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: there are teams that will throw it. Now the danger 261 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: there is, well, want a turnover, which you don't want, 262 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: and then incompetions because you're zone incomplete, pass stops the clock, 263 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 1: saves the time out for the opponent, more time for 264 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:30,199 Speaker 1: them to either get into field goal range or maybe 265 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: even score a touchdown. So I get all of the 266 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: discussions and everything, but at the same time, there's that 267 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: thought process of you want your best players in control 268 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 1: and allow them to either win or lose a. 269 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 4: Game for you. In this case, you run the ball 270 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 4: three straight times and you took the ball out of 271 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 4: k One's hands. 272 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 5: And it's different if you're running the ball with James Connor, 273 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 5: who bounces off tackles left and right. That's not the 274 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 5: style you see nearly as much from him Mike Carton, 275 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 5: and he could shake somebody, but he's not the one 276 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:03,319 Speaker 5: that's going to break through with contact all the time. 277 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 5: That that's where I find my struggle grasping all of this. 278 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 3: You want to, I. 279 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 5: Think in a situation like that, with the game on 280 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 5: the line, you want your quarterback to be the decision 281 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 5: maker and if the loss, if you end up losing it, 282 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 5: or if there's a turnover, yes, you could look at 283 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 5: the play call whatever was designed, but at least you 284 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 5: could look at the quarterback that right. 285 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 4: There, you know, you know who to look at. 286 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 5: He had the hot hand earlier on in the game, 287 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 5: and then he cooled off. And it wasn't that he 288 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 5: wasn't even connecting with his targets. He was, but it 289 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 5: was it was situations that kept bringing the plays back. 290 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 5: We talked about the thirty two yard reception to Trade McBride, 291 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 5: a scene right up the middle, and it was great. 292 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 5: There was momentum, there was juice in the building, and 293 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 5: then there's the penalty that brings it back. Tayo Mackie 294 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 5: tweeted out from eighty Central. He tweeted out that after 295 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 5: the Cardinals went up twenty one to three, they had 296 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 5: eight consecutive offensive drives. With a negative play, whether a sack, 297 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 5: penalty or a turnover. You're not gonna win games every 298 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 5: single time. You're going back further from the line of scrimage. 299 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: And it goes back to the conversation, which I completely understand, 300 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 1: and no one's going to argue. Okay, is it the 301 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 1: play call or the play execution? And I have subscribed 302 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 1: to the fact that in all my dealings here, either 303 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: covering the Arizona Cardinals, working for the Arizona Cardinals, listening 304 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: to former players bertrand Barry, I quote them a lot. 305 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 1: It's coaches Monday through Saturday, players on Sunday. Ron Wolfley 306 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: is big on players. 307 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 4: Play. 308 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: You execute what is called, and to me, it's the 309 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: lack of execution and the mistakes, the bonehead mistakes that 310 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray talked about. Whether it's snapping the ball too early, 311 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 1: whether it's committing a penalty, a holding, some of those 312 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 1: are going to happen. But a false start and illegal formation, 313 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: that one really drew the ire of JG. 314 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 4: Post game. 315 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: You were down there and it did seem because that 316 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: was when Kyler Murray exited for a couple of plays, 317 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: came back in and that play in particular, there were 318 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: two penalties, both declined, but it was the illegal formation 319 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 1: that really is like, you've got to you have to 320 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: know how to line up, and it was on an 321 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: offensive lineman, not not on the line of scrimmage. They 322 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: were too far off the line of scrimmage and that's 323 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: something that in the last year and a half, Zach 324 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: more and more officials are paying attention to the tackles 325 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: so they're not back foot or even more to try 326 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: to get that pass protection set advantage. 327 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 5: Yes, to take advantage of that, because in the past 328 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 5: officials have been pretty lenient with that call. They haven't 329 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 5: called in nearly as much. And then when you start 330 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 5: to see screen grabs and the way social media has 331 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 5: truly changed the way some of us viewed the game. 332 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 5: You see some of these offensive tackles far from the 333 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 5: line or from their formation. And Jonathan Gannon after the 334 00:16:56,800 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 5: game was furious because he's this is a day one 335 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 5: install and if we can't accomplish day one installs during 336 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 5: Week five of the NFL season, that's a problem. And 337 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 5: that and that is a problem. This is something that, yes, 338 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 5: Jacoby Prissette comes in, things change a little bit. Tip Riman, 339 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 5: you know, has his injury, which we obviously wish him 340 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 5: all the best. He's one of the really good guys 341 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 5: in the locker room. So I'm curious to know how 342 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 5: his injury changes the way that the Cardinals approach twelve 343 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 5: and thirteen personnel. Now because Travis ocalect did play a 344 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:34,919 Speaker 5: little bit, but that's still something that we need to 345 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 5: keep an eye on it, and we will certainly have 346 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 5: more than Kyler Murray and his foot injury. He said, uh, 347 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 5: we'll see when asked about that. But he was healthy 348 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 5: enough to return back to the game and try to 349 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 5: try to play for the Arizona Cardinals, So that was 350 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 5: certainly something of note. But it's just it's frustration, and 351 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 5: it's frustration that's boiling over. And you don't I don't 352 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 5: believe that it stems from the losses to San Francisco 353 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 5: or Seattle. It's just a frustration of making Josh Swt 354 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:07,439 Speaker 5: said to me, we need to stop doing the dumb stuff. 355 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 5: And he was different language, but he said he said, 356 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 5: we need to stop doing the dumb stuff. We need 357 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 5: to take care of the football. We need to get 358 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 5: the football back to the offense, and we need to 359 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 5: play good football. Because I tweeted out the quote on 360 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 5: my Twitter account, Zach easy carts he said when I 361 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 5: asked him about just these last three losses, he said, here, 362 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 5: it's killing me. I'm gonna be for real, it's killing 363 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 5: me because I see what this team can be in 364 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 5: the first half you. 365 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:32,919 Speaker 3: Can see it. 366 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 5: And that's what it comes down to, is in the 367 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,919 Speaker 5: first half, it's there. It's been there at certain moments. 368 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 5: Against the Seattle Seahawks, it was there in the fourth quarter. 369 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 5: Why can't things strink together for four quarters? That's what 370 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:48,120 Speaker 5: this coaching staff trually needs to try to figure out. 371 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:51,439 Speaker 5: And and the players need to stay locked in. And 372 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 5: I'm not trying to call anybody out or say people 373 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 5: aren't staying locked in, but for one reason or another, 374 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 5: the game has slipped through their fingers, and in the 375 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 5: games against the game that they've won, it also has 376 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 5: slipped through their fingers. As I mentioned, you could keep 377 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 5: your your foot on the throat of the Carolina Panthers 378 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 5: when you're up twenty eight to whatever they were or 379 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,919 Speaker 5: twenty seven or whatever they were up, and that just 380 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 5: hasn't happened yet. So you need to try to figure 381 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:16,360 Speaker 5: out what can be done to string together all four. 382 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:20,679 Speaker 1: Even more frustrating on Sunday and maybe even throughout this 383 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:25,159 Speaker 1: entire five games to begin twenty twenty five is the 384 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:29,360 Speaker 1: frustration because you've seen it. You know what this offense 385 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:33,159 Speaker 1: is capable of doing. I just mentioned on the start 386 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:36,919 Speaker 1: three touchdowns in the first four possessions, but then nothing 387 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 1: after that. So where does this offense? How do you 388 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 1: get this offense to the point where you're consistent throughout 389 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:50,360 Speaker 1: quarters one, two, three, and four. And then there are times, 390 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: especially late in that game, where you are driving. You 391 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: brought up the train McBride thirty two yard catch, but 392 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 1: you look back, there's laundry on the field, penalty flag, 393 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden you got to bring it back. 394 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: So you're taking a step forward, and then all of 395 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 1: a sudden, it's two steps back as an offense, and 396 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 1: you're playing from behind the sticks. You're not staying on schedule, 397 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 1: and it becomes much more difficult because right now the 398 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: margin for error is very, very slim for this offense, 399 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: at least right now, and you can't afford these mistakes, 400 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: whether mental mistakes, physical mistakes, miscommunication, whatever it is. 401 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 4: How do you get those first four drives to look 402 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 4: like that in the second half? And I think that's what. 403 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 1: That is job number one right now for the coaches, 404 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: because we can all dissect what is wrong, how do 405 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 1: you solve it? And that's not an easy answer, and 406 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:48,880 Speaker 1: it's no, you're not getting rid of somebody or changing 407 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 1: this or changing that. You are what you are at 408 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: this point of a season because of the work that 409 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:56,719 Speaker 1: you put in in the offseason in training camp. Now 410 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 1: do you have to tweak some things You brought up 411 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,719 Speaker 1: Tip Ryeman's injury, dealing with an ankle issue. Now all 412 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 1: of a sudden, he's likely gone for the rest of 413 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 1: the season. It's looked very serious. What do you do 414 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,880 Speaker 1: as an offense because you don't have your number one 415 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 1: blocking tight end and do you see less thirteen personnel 416 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 1: or do you try to plug in someone else, i e. 417 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 1: Travis volkelec to get him more snaps on the field. 418 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: But this offense has taken a series of injuries to 419 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 1: key pieces on what is a run first offense when 420 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 1: you're losing your top two running backs and now you're 421 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:34,239 Speaker 1: number one blocking tight end. 422 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 5: We're gonna hear from tight end Elijah Higgins later today 423 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 5: on Monday after the game, so we'll talk with the 424 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 5: second string tight end about that he's done a solid 425 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 5: job in the run blocking game. Elijah has. But Tip Briman, 426 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 5: you draft him in the third round for this exact reason, 427 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 5: so just to lose him, it's a big one. 428 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 3: It's a big one. 429 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 5: Honestly, when you look at the rushing attack, I would 430 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 5: put James Connor number one. I put tip Ryman number 431 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 5: two and Trey Bens at number three in terms of 432 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 5: just the significance of how it alters what the and 433 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 5: I'm not trying to power rank the injuries per se, 434 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,199 Speaker 5: but it's it's the truth what tip Ryman brings to 435 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 5: the to the run game. 436 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 3: And in his. 437 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 5: Draft call after he's after the Cardinals turned in his 438 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 5: card and selected him, he said he honors God by mauling. 439 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 3: People like that. That's his identity. 440 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 5: And to not have him out there potentially for a 441 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 5: significant amount of time, it's something that'll definitely be a 442 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 5: blow to this to this Cardinals team. But all around, 443 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 5: if we if we knew what the answers were, and 444 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:39,119 Speaker 5: it kind of goes back to our point. From our observations, 445 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 5: this is a team that should be much improved from 446 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 5: what it is, and they should be a team that 447 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 5: should be much better than their record says they are. 448 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,880 Speaker 5: When we looked at the schedule, none of us would 449 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 5: have thought that this would be the schedule and that 450 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 5: these would have been the losses that this team has faced. 451 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 5: You likely would have chalked up Indianapolis to being a 452 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 5: win because you would have expected Daniel Jones to be 453 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 5: the quarterback. And you're not backing Dale Jones to put 454 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 5: up forty points on the on the on the Raiders, 455 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 5: and in Las Vegas the Green Bay Packers, you weren't. 456 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 5: You know, who knows what happens in that game. You're 457 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 5: gonna go to the buy and you're hoping, all right, 458 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:15,160 Speaker 5: maybe we have a four and two record something along 459 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 5: those lines. That just isn't the That just isn't the 460 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 5: case right now. And Paris Johnson Junior was asked after 461 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 5: the game, and look, he's one of the good guys 462 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 5: out there on this team. Dad will stay in the 463 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:28,199 Speaker 5: locker room after the loss, and whether he deserves the 464 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 5: blame or not, he always takes it. He always takes 465 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,640 Speaker 5: that accountability. And he was saying after the game, somebody 466 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 5: asked him, how do you fix it? And he said, 467 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 5: he said, if I would have known how to fix it, 468 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 5: if we all would have known, I would have been 469 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 5: able to post something really cool on Instagram or Twitter 470 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 5: with a really cool caption about how we just won 471 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,399 Speaker 5: the game, and we just haven't been able to do that. 472 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 3: Lately. 473 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 5: It starts with the rushing attack Cardinals. Obviously, their rushing 474 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 5: total was a little bit inflated because of Amari de 475 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 5: Mercado's seventy two yard scamper seventy one. Seventy should have 476 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,360 Speaker 5: been seventy two turned to seventy one yard turnover. As 477 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 5: Darren Irvan wrote about in his article, that number obviously 478 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,640 Speaker 5: is bullied because of that. But the rushing attack had 479 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 5: its moments. Michael Carter got into the end zone. Bm 480 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,360 Speaker 5: Night gone to the end zone. I think that now 481 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 5: this could settle whatever fantasy football dispute people might have 482 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 5: out there about who's going to be the lead back 483 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 5: for the Arizona Cardinals while Drey Benson is out. But man, 484 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 5: it's just Something's just it appears at moments where it's 485 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:30,640 Speaker 5: clicking and it looks so good and you're like, this 486 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,680 Speaker 5: is the Arizona Cardinals team we were talking about all 487 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,639 Speaker 5: offseason long, And then there are other moments where you're like, 488 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 5: what was that. 489 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 1: First fifteen minutes? Marvin Harrison Junior three receptions for a 490 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 1: season high seventy nine yards following the first quarter, one 491 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 1: catch on two targets, So again, another one of those 492 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 1: head scratching moments. It was working well in the first quarter. Yes, 493 00:24:55,880 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 1: the defense adjusted, but as Jonathan Gannon told pash Aq postgame, 494 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 1: you have to find a way to get the ball 495 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: in the hands of your playmakers I E. MHJ and 496 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 1: Trey McBride. So those what we saw at the end 497 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 1: of Seattle, in that final six minutes with Marvin and 498 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 1: the first quarter against the Titans. Now Elius said, Okay, 499 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 1: Marvin is very capable of handling his role as wide 500 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,640 Speaker 1: receiver number one. You have to get him involved, though 501 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,159 Speaker 1: he can't do it by himself. He's not throwing the 502 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 1: ball to himself. Someone needs to throw it to him. 503 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: So how do you figure out a way to get 504 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 1: not just the targets because I think the targets that 505 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,439 Speaker 1: he did receive on Sunday were very impactful. 506 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 4: It just needed to be more and it wasn't on Sunday. 507 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 1: The other thing to pay attention to moving forward before 508 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 1: we turn our attention to the defense, because that's the 509 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: side of the ball that has looked great. But they'll 510 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 1: tell you, hey, we need to get off the field more, 511 00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 1: allow fewer explodesive Playsna made his season debut, started at 512 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 1: right guard played the first four series. Okay, you look 513 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 1: at those first four series, three touchdowns, and then Will, 514 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 1: all of a sudden was on the sideline, probably on 515 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 1: a snap count. John Gains came in and replaced Will. 516 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 1: Isaiah Adams was shifted to left guard because Evan Brown 517 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 1: was sidelined. Do we see Will Hernanda's play more moving forward? Hopefully, 518 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: because it certainly looked good with Will on the football field. 519 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 1: And I don't know if you can say, all right, 520 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 1: he's the reason, but it certainly changed when Will came 521 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 1: off the field. 522 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 5: That forty plus yard explosive to Marvin Harrison Junior Kyler 523 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 5: went to the right side of the line of scrimmage 524 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 5: and he felt comfortable he had time. That's something that 525 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,439 Speaker 5: this coaching staff is gonna definitely take note of. And 526 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,199 Speaker 5: with Evan Brown being out, I'm now curious or with 527 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 5: the injury yet a hamstring injury. He was warming up 528 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 5: on the field prior to the game, so at least 529 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 5: you don't believe that it's anything long term more significant. 530 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,239 Speaker 5: Curious to know kind of similar to that point, what 531 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 5: this snap count looks like. Does this mean now that 532 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 5: potentially he's going to be if Evan Brown comes back healthy. 533 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 5: Is there going to be a competition at left guard 534 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:20,160 Speaker 5: now between Isaiah Adams and Evan Brown? And is Will 535 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,439 Speaker 5: Hernandez going to be playing more? Is there now going 536 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 5: to be a little bit more of a platoon situation 537 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 5: between Isaiah Adams and Will Hernandez our right guard. We're 538 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:32,160 Speaker 5: gonna hopefully have some of these questions answered in the 539 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 5: coming days from the coaching staff, and if not, then 540 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 5: we're just gonna have to wait and see what happens 541 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 5: on Sunday at Lucas Oil Stadium. But it looked it's 542 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 5: this offense has looked really good with Will Hernandez. It 543 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,359 Speaker 5: looked really good last year with Will Hernandez as well. 544 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 5: He's a he's a damn good run blocker and he's 545 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:55,439 Speaker 5: an enforcer out there, and that's something that he and 546 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 5: Kyler Murray have both spoken about. They have a good 547 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 5: relationship with one another as well. Will Hernandez, the way 548 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 5: that he talks about his love for keeping the quarterback 549 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 5: upright is significant. You could see it all the time. 550 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 5: I do want to go back though, to what you 551 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 5: mentioned about Marvin Harrison junior. Mike Clay from ESPN tweeted 552 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 5: out that Marvin ended up with a season low seventeen 553 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 5: percent target chair And if you would have told me 554 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 5: that that was going to be the case after the 555 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 5: first quarter he had, I would have said, you're crazy. 556 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's again weirdness on Sunday afternoon at State Farm Stadium. 557 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,160 Speaker 5: But it kind of goes to you mentioned what JG 558 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 5: was talking about, how your playmakers need to get the ball. Yes, 559 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 5: your quarterback needs to throw the ball to them, your 560 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 5: offensive line needs to block for them, you need to 561 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 5: have solid pass protection. And Kyler we know he doesn't 562 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 5: like to be sacked and sometimes he just hits the ground. 563 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 5: Sometimes you just kind of got to live to see 564 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 5: another day. Try to get rid of the football at 565 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 5: certain moments, and it's the risking reward because he has 566 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 5: that type of first down run on third and two, 567 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 5: if I'm not mistaken, where the pocket collapse, he backpedals 568 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 5: a little bit and then swings out and gets the 569 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 5: first down run. You have those sort of Murray magic 570 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 5: talented plays that Kyler Murray brings to the table, and 571 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 5: then there are other moments where you're like, you just 572 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 5: get rid of the ball, But it's kind of that 573 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 5: risking reward. You get moments like that because he allows 574 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,479 Speaker 5: himself to stay inside the pocket and see what happens. 575 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 5: But it does take all eleven, but it also takes 576 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 5: twelve because you need your offensive coordinator to play that's 577 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 5: going to make sure everybody gets open. 578 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 1: Certainly a bright spotlight on the offense. Defensively, Yeah, the 579 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 1: Cardinals right now entering Monday Night Football, sixth scoring defense 580 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 1: in the league, number one in the NFC, nineteen point 581 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 1: two points per game. Yet I know this because we've 582 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 1: been around Nick Raalis a lot. He's going to lament 583 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: that fourth quarter and the defense's inability to get off 584 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 1: the field, whether on the Tony Pollard one yard touchdown 585 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 1: run or what turned into Well, they did get off 586 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 1: the field on the rabbit interception, but they didn't stay 587 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 1: off the field. And then that final drive in which 588 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 1: there was the third and three converted and then the 589 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 1: Calvin Ridley thirty eight yard catch all the way down 590 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 1: deep inside Cardinals territory. But you look at the third quarter, 591 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 1: Titans didn't have a single first down. The third quarter, 592 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 1: it was three and out, three and out, three and out, 593 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 1: and then then the fourth quarter was the six play 594 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 1: eighty yard drive with Tony Pollard scoring from one yard out. 595 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 1: There was a third and ten converted there. That was 596 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,959 Speaker 1: the third. That was the forty seven yard Calvin Ridley. 597 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 1: He had another one later on on that final drive. 598 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 1: But again it the Titans offensively could do nothing, absolutely 599 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:50,959 Speaker 1: nothing until the fourth quarter and more specifically the last 600 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 1: three drives in which they scored on each of those possessions. 601 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 5: I mean, look at it like if you think about it. 602 00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,719 Speaker 5: We spoke earlier in the week going to this game, 603 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 5: Jim Lyott from Tennessee Titans dot Com, and he was 604 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 5: even highlighting a lot of the problems that they've had 605 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 5: offensively and with the injuries that they've had. Obviously, they 606 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 5: returned ty J Spears off of injured reserve. He made 607 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 5: his return in this game. He had a handful of 608 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 5: carries out there. Calvin Ridley was on the injury report 609 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 5: all week long. He was a limited participant on Friday's practice. Obviously, 610 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 5: he gets the go ahead to play in the game. 611 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 5: The Cardinals had their fair share of injuries on the 612 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 5: defensive side of the ball, most specifically especially towards cornerback 613 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 5: Max Melon. He was not out there, which like Kee 614 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 5: trow Clark was the one guarding Calvin Ridley on those 615 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 5: two big time explosives that you hit on Craig, but 616 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 5: just they got after the quarterback. They did great job 617 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 5: getting after to cam Wore. Josh whit out his two sacks. 618 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 5: I know that the pressure rate wasn't as wasn't as 619 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 5: high as you would want it to be, but he 620 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 5: impacted the quarterback still, which kind of goes to what 621 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 5: you were talking about last week about if sacks are 622 00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 5: really a winning stat. 623 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 4: J D doesn't leave it. 624 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 1: But you look at the two sacks that Josh what 625 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 1: had the one in the first half, there was let 626 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 1: me look, there was the one in the second quarter. 627 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 1: It was a sack on third down, so you got 628 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 1: the defense or you got the offense off the field 629 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 1: that kicked the field goal fifty one yards to make 630 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 1: it twenty one to six. And then later on it 631 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 1: was a sack on fourth down, so you get the 632 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 1: offense off the field. So those are impactful sacks. Now, 633 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 1: what is bothering a lot of people, and I'll put 634 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:34,959 Speaker 1: myself in this category is again hindsight. But that final drive, 635 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 1: it was a consistent four man rush. There was no 636 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 1: fifth or sixth defender coming into the face of cam Ward. 637 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 1: You were relying on guys winning their one on ones, 638 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 1: and cam Ward had more time to throw on that 639 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 1: final drive and burn the Cardinals a couple of different 640 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 1: times to get into what was field goal range and 641 00:32:58,080 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 1: win the ballgame. 642 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 5: Ultimately, the stat line for cam Ward would have looked 643 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 5: so much better if some of his receivers made those 644 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 5: catches in. 645 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 3: The first half as well. 646 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 5: But the reason why I bring that up is because 647 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 5: it was clear the arm talent he has, he's a 648 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 5: good quarterback, and his mobility was also on display at 649 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 5: certain points. But it's the confidence he has to know 650 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 5: that there's a bunch of first round talent that Tennessee 651 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 5: has on that on that offensive line and that offensive front, 652 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 5: Peter s Kronski especially especially. But man, I just this 653 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 5: type of this type of loss, you want to or 654 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 5: this type of game rather, you want to try to 655 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 5: dial up some unique disguises or something that nature that 656 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 5: brings the pressure, especially in the fourth quarter, because you're 657 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,239 Speaker 5: starting to see cam Ward's gaining that momentum and the 658 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 5: balls bouncing their their way in every facet of the 659 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 5: game at that point. At that point in time, you 660 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 5: should try to figure out ways to dial it up. Now, 661 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 5: Nick Rawis has shown a lot for me to question 662 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 5: some of his ideas and how he deploys his defense. 663 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 5: But us as football savants and the way that we 664 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,760 Speaker 5: watched the game and analysts of the game, you can't 665 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 5: just have your four man front that has been tired 666 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 5: and has been on the field a ton because of 667 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 5: those three and outs that you kept mentioning earlier on 668 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 5: in the episode, Craig, your defensive line is tired, and 669 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,880 Speaker 5: no matter how much you rotate them, no matter how 670 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 5: much you rotate your outside linebackers, it's grueling. 671 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:33,360 Speaker 3: It's tiring. 672 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 5: So try to figure out different ways to dial up 673 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 5: different sort of pressures. And the four man front just 674 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 5: wasn't able to get the job done. 675 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's going to be interesting to see now what 676 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:47,719 Speaker 1: happens next moving forward, the Cardinals will try to put 677 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 1: this one in the rear view mirror. 678 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 4: Is going to be difficult. 679 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 1: Heck, it's difficult for me here less than twenty four 680 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 1: hours removed from week five. But you got the Indianapolis 681 00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 1: Colts on Sunday in Indianapol is a team that is 682 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:05,840 Speaker 1: four and one, three and zero at home, and it's Okay, 683 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 1: as Jonathan Inning likes to say, and I'm guessing we'll 684 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 1: hear it again, it's about the process, come in correct 685 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:15,760 Speaker 1: the mistakes, put together game plan, and hopefully knock on wood. 686 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 1: This is rock bottom because it feels like rock bottom, 687 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 1: and there's only way one way to go, and that 688 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,800 Speaker 1: is up from what is a two and three record 689 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 1: overall doesn't look bad on paper, but we've all watched 690 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 1: how you got to two and three, and that's why 691 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 1: there's frustration and a little angst amongst the fan base. 692 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 5: I mean, the Los Angeles Rams won the division. What 693 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 5: did they begin with the season at one and four? 694 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 4: Last it was one and four. 695 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 3: Yes, it's it's not it's not impossible. 696 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 5: I it's what I started off, at least in the 697 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 5: first draft of my Josh Sweat article about was you know, 698 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,799 Speaker 5: remind Josh Sweat that it's only week five and he'll 699 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 5: shut it down in the heartbeat, and because he said 700 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:57,800 Speaker 5: to me, goes obviously still early. 701 00:35:57,880 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 3: But a loss is a loss. 702 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 5: In this one hurts and it and it did hurt. Uh, 703 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:07,279 Speaker 5: it did hurt this team. But there's you can't if 704 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:11,879 Speaker 5: you have this sort of mindset. We're obviously bummed out 705 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:15,279 Speaker 5: about it because you never This is one of those 706 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,920 Speaker 5: things where you never expected this to happen, especially this 707 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 5: sort of game, especially the fact that it happens three 708 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 5: consecutive games that it's a walk off field goal, that's 709 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,800 Speaker 5: the nail in the coffin. You would have never expected it. 710 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:30,200 Speaker 5: And I think the way I look at it is 711 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:33,160 Speaker 5: unless it unless it happens the fourth time, which you 712 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 5: never hope and pray that it does. It has to 713 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 5: get better from here because you have a really good 714 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,279 Speaker 5: Indianapolis team that you're going to face, and then you 715 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,239 Speaker 5: have a really good Green Bay team coming back to 716 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 5: your house, and you have a bye week, and you 717 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 5: go on Monday night football to Dallas, and that's going 718 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,319 Speaker 5: to be a huge game for this team because you're 719 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 5: going up against Clayton Adams and for all to talk 720 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,800 Speaker 5: about the run game, that's gonna be something that the Cardinals, 721 00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 5: I'm sure are going to be thinking about, especially those 722 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 5: offensive linement as get to see their former offensive line 723 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 5: coach on the opposing sidelines wearing the blue and silver. 724 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:06,440 Speaker 3: But you have to shake it. 725 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:08,880 Speaker 5: If you don't shake it, and you let it linger, 726 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,960 Speaker 5: And kind of what Frank was saying on the postgame 727 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,719 Speaker 5: show about you know this is something that might go beyond. 728 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:16,520 Speaker 3: The forty eight hour rule. 729 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,319 Speaker 5: Tough figure it out because you're in need to try 730 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:21,040 Speaker 5: to get a victory. 731 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,160 Speaker 4: Well said Zach, and excellent work. 732 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:27,239 Speaker 1: Look forward to the Josh Wet story coming up on 733 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 1: Easycardinals dot com at some point this week because what 734 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,239 Speaker 1: you did tweet out as far as his reaction to 735 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,680 Speaker 1: the loss thought was very powerful and again a lot 736 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:41,759 Speaker 1: of self awareness from Josh Wet with what is going 737 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:42,719 Speaker 1: on so far, and. 738 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:46,319 Speaker 5: When we know the Josh Wet we know always has 739 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,000 Speaker 5: the biggest smile on his face. He's laughing all the time. 740 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 5: And it was just he and I talking to one another, 741 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:57,000 Speaker 5: and he was quiet, he was whispering, he was very upset. 742 00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 5: And before I started to speak to him, it was 743 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 5: after the shower he was he was uh with Xavi 744 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:05,400 Speaker 5: and Collins and Baron Browning and the three of them 745 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:09,399 Speaker 5: were talking after the game and it's h You could 746 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,479 Speaker 5: tell that they're leaders of the team that are trying 747 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,640 Speaker 5: to the are trying to figure something out because they 748 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:13,960 Speaker 5: need to. 749 00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:17,479 Speaker 1: Yes, they absolutely do need to. It will get better 750 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:22,640 Speaker 1: because it needs to get better, and difficult on Sunday, 751 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:26,320 Speaker 1: but you try to move past it as quickly as possible. 752 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,680 Speaker 1: Easier said than done. I get it, and I understand 753 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,200 Speaker 1: why many people will say, well, you got to show me, 754 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 1: and let's hope the Arizona Cardinals show you on Sunday 755 00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 1: in Indianapolis. More on that game as the days come 756 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 1: to towards the end of the week, and on that notes, 757 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,800 Speaker 1: we will put a lid on this edition of Cardinals 758 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 1: Cover two presented by Hundai, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals. 759 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,319 Speaker 1: As always, special thanks to our executive producer Jim Mama Hunter, 760 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 1: our associate producer Coddy Fincher. For Zach Gershman, I'm Greig 761 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,319 Speaker 1: Rayel Lou. We'll talk to you next time here on 762 00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:02,439 Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two.