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Speaker 1: Good morning Usa yo yo yo yo yo yo yo

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Speaker 1: yo yo yo Jess, hilarry as some morning.

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Speaker 2: Today's Wednesday, and Merry Christmas and happy holidays to you

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Speaker 2: and yours.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully you with family, you're on your.

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Speaker 2: Way to hang out with family, or you're just relaxing

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Speaker 2: and enjoying your time off. If you have your time

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Speaker 2: off today, it's all about inspiration this morning. I mean

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Speaker 2: it's Christmas, right, So we have Sarah Jake Robins joining

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Speaker 2: us this morning, Kirk Franklin and Tyd Trivit. So don't

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Speaker 2: go anywhere. It's the Breakfast Club.

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Speaker 3: Good morning.

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Speaker 1: This is your time to get it off your chests,

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Speaker 1: whether you're mad or blessed.

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Speaker 4: So we've got out at the same nag.

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Speaker 3: We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club.

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Speaker 4: Hello this Hey, this is Lauren from New York.

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Speaker 1: NAE Lauren, Good morning to get it off your chest.

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Speaker 3: Laurence.

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Speaker 4: Okay, basically I'm calling because I'm very upset. I met

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Speaker 4: someone I felt like he was the love of my life.

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Speaker 4: After a year, and then one morning I just came

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Speaker 4: and took him away from my house.

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Speaker 5: And I have never heard.

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Speaker 3: Ice Ice att Yeah, Ice, where's he from? He was Mexican?

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Speaker 4: No, Jamaican?

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Speaker 3: Oh you're Jamaican. So well. He didn't have his papers.

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Speaker 4: Though, No, I mean, I guess I think he did.

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Speaker 6: He had a whole life here.

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Speaker 7: I'm not Ice came to get him. He had his papers, right,

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Speaker 7: He was trying to marry you to get that green cart.

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Speaker 6: Oh my god, oh god.

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Speaker 5: I'm just been in shocked.

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Speaker 4: I've been very upset, like they took my baby, Like.

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Speaker 8: Where's Jamaica? Go to Jamaica?

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Speaker 3: Are you sure that's my baby?

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Speaker 9: Go to Jamaica?

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Speaker 10: No?

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Speaker 3: Are you sure? Are you sure? Are you sure? They

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Speaker 3: took him?

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Speaker 7: But he might have just been over you and had

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Speaker 7: some people come over and pretend to be Ice got

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Speaker 7: to go back home.

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Speaker 4: No, they took him. They came after him like he

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Speaker 4: owes something to the devil to himself. They threw him

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Speaker 4: on the ground and called him most types of names.

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Speaker 3: And you can't find a way, and you can't find him. No,

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: Nope, Nope, what's his name? I'm not going to say that.

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Speaker 3: You ain't trying to find that. You don't care about

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Speaker 3: that man.

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Speaker 6: Oh that's crazy.

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Speaker 3: You don't want to move to Jamaica. You don't want

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Speaker 3: to shout him out over the radio.

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Speaker 9: I ain't need to say move.

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Speaker 8: I just said go damn. She like now ill she said.

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Speaker 3: The man is married.

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Speaker 4: Though no, no, I didn't say it was married.

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Speaker 6: I need to understand what he does first.

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Speaker 4: That's what I'm just going over there like, I don't

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Speaker 4: even know.

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Speaker 6: What he did. But that baby, I know it's.

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Speaker 4: One day they evaded, the next day they's something else.

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Speaker 11: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: You were fine, We were fine.

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Speaker 8: She just woke up thinking about him.

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Speaker 1: Hello, who's this?

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Speaker 6: Yes, third, it's j.

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Speaker 3: J.

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Speaker 1: Get it off your chest.

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Speaker 12: So interesting enough.

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Speaker 6: I get through every time I call it. You guys

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Speaker 6: every week and Charlemagne shows love sometime, but dj MB

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Speaker 6: hangs up on me every week and today it's got

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Speaker 6: to stop.

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Speaker 3: I agree with you, M so.

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Speaker 6: I just need him to work on his attitude.

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Speaker 3: That's it.

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Speaker 6: That's all I need to say.

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Speaker 8: I'll stay sometimes.

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Speaker 3: Old you hang up on that man, that just respecting.

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Speaker 3: That might have been God testing you.

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Speaker 9: You know, no, it's not.

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Speaker 3: He's still there. That might have been gone.

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Speaker 1: A great day. You have a great week.

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Speaker 7: Okay, exactly, you hung up on that man.

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Speaker 3: That was God. That was God testing you when you feel.

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Speaker 1: He was right there.

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Speaker 8: He wanted to get back.

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Speaker 3: He went to hang up. He went hanging on me too. Allright,

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Speaker 3: we even job?

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Speaker 9: Hello?

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Speaker 1: Who's this?

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Speaker 3: Yo?

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Speaker 6: Always having the ship?

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Speaker 13: Boy?

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Speaker 6: John Man?

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Speaker 11: What if?

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Speaker 6: Envy charlamagnea go beautiful chess?

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Speaker 8: Good morning?

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Speaker 3: What's happening now?

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Speaker 6: I gotta get it off my chest?

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Speaker 4: Man?

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Speaker 6: Listen, man, took this out. I just got off at

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Speaker 6: six o'clock. Right, I'm trying to go to McDonald's and

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Speaker 6: get me a nice fresh hot saucy and cheese, make

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Speaker 6: muffin faut. He's mother got the nerve to have an

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Speaker 6: attitude because day late, I supposed to be opening six o'clock.

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Speaker 6: It's six. J'all ain't opened up yet. Then we gotta

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Speaker 6: wait two three minutes if we short staffed and all that. Yo,

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Speaker 6: listen man, it's not my problem, bro. You might got

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Speaker 6: there business man.

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Speaker 7: Well, that's not the attitude I understand, but that's not

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Speaker 7: the attitude to half. Everybody's probably a little stressed out

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Speaker 7: this morning, okay.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, but they still have to be able to maintain

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Speaker 14: a level of professionalism because the customer is never always

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Speaker 14: is never wrong.

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Speaker 1: I don't believe that, but not in this case.

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Speaker 6: The same thing happened yesterday, the opening up yesterday, Bro,

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Speaker 6: say mcmuphin every morning when I get over a stick man,

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Speaker 6: it's nothing but what city? Nothing?

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Speaker 1: Where you from?

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Speaker 3: Bro?

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Speaker 6: I'm in Georgia, Man, I hate to say I'm from

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Speaker 6: New York. I'm from Brooklyn. So you're gounderstand my pain. Man,

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Speaker 6: I'm in George with.

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Speaker 7: You can't understand your pain. But I'll tell you one thing.

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Speaker 7: Man is will take you where money won't. So if

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Speaker 7: you just you know, especially if you go there all

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Speaker 7: the time and you're a nice person, they'll probably be

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Speaker 7: happy to see you coming.

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Speaker 12: Pause.

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Speaker 3: And I know what justice this might trigger. Jessica, she

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Speaker 3: wanted to work there?

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Speaker 6: Did you'll follow me on Instagram?

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Speaker 9: Man, fatherhood?

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Speaker 3: Did you ever have this problem when you work at McDonald's.

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Speaker 14: Why do we tell people to get it off their chests?

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Speaker 14: If you always got something to say when they're getting it.

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Speaker 2: Off, get it off your chest? Eight hundred and five

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Speaker 2: eight five one oh five one. If you need the event,

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Speaker 2: let's discuss this's breakfast clog of morning.

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Speaker 3: The breakfast Club.

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Speaker 14: I'm telling, I'm telling what you doing.

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Speaker 1: Oh, this is your time to get it off your chest,

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Speaker 1: whether you're mad or blessed. Eight hundred and five eight

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Speaker 1: five one.

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Speaker 9: O five one.

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Speaker 1: We want to hear from you on the breakfast club. Hello,

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Speaker 1: what was this going on?

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Speaker 3: What up?

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Speaker 1: Ted?

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Speaker 3: You said?

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Speaker 13: Tag?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, Ted tad t isn't teddy?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: All right, we'll get it off your chest.

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Speaker 6: Ted, I'm calling in this corner, man, I'm here making.

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Speaker 7: That's why I say it ain't stereotype if it's true,

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Speaker 7: because I knew something was up. I was about to

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Speaker 7: ask you, what do you identify as? But I was

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Speaker 7: gonna mind my business this morning. But you let the

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Speaker 7: world know.

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Speaker 5: No, Oh, definitely identify as a woman.

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Speaker 3: Hey, what's the faith?

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Speaker 6: You're a stud though, Yeah, I'm I'm a dude in

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Speaker 6: the relationship.

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Speaker 3: What's the faith?

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Speaker 6: A faith? That would be something that you would call it.

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Speaker 15: It's kind of like, because we already out here anyway

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Speaker 15: we wanna be doing. But it's like you or you

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Speaker 15: are stood and you have a sake for me and

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Speaker 15: on the loaf you made it hard for us.

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Speaker 3: The real was that you can't be BOASEDU no, you.

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Speaker 6: Can't be that.

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Speaker 8: Ain't how we roll it.

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Speaker 3: That's that's enough, triple C. What's the sin? I don't

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Speaker 3: get what the sin is.

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Speaker 6: We already doubles in it. They already say by being

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Speaker 6: what we are.

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Speaker 7: So you want people, you want the real studge of

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Speaker 7: the world, to just swell off. They can't have no

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Speaker 7: penis whatsoever?

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Speaker 6: No, no, nothing, man, just go be here if you better.

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Speaker 7: Off Jesus, cause wouldn't that be prescytarian?

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Speaker 3: No fish, y'all eat fish?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I wasn't eat some fish.

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Speaker 15: But you know the human body ain't fish.

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Speaker 4: Okay, he wasn't you know what?

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Speaker 3: Never mind?

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Speaker 1: I tell you have a good one.

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Speaker 6: All right, y'all.

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Speaker 3: That's right, y'all. Listen to tad Man. All y'all.

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Speaker 7: Studs out there, stop faking the funk, all right? Leading

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Speaker 7: penises alone has studs?

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Speaker 3: Who is this yo?

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Speaker 1: This clip? Clip? Get it off your chest. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I went to the a few days ago.

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Speaker 2: How I left or somebody put you on your ass.

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Speaker 2: You don't know how you left? Somebody knock you out.

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Speaker 3: I don't know how I left the box.

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Speaker 9: I don't know how I left.

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Speaker 3: Hey, you don't play boxing, bro Bro, we got will

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Speaker 3: he be in here. WILLI di is a what is it?

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Speaker 7: Willie?

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Speaker 3: Whether it gold you said golden glove, golden glove. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's what's up.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, but I don't know how I left though.

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Speaker 2: Maybe you shouldn't go back there, all right, Maybe you

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Speaker 2: should be boxing.

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Speaker 3: How long you've been training?

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Speaker 6: I I think you're doing as far as I've never

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Speaker 6: really trained with it.

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Speaker 2: There's your problem. See, that's the problem. People just want

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Speaker 2: to jump into golden gym and just start sparring. There's

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Speaker 2: more to that, right, You're right?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you got hitting the nose. I don't know what

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Speaker 3: he got hit in it, but his phone ain't known

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Speaker 3: no more.

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Speaker 1: Get it off your chest eight hundred five.

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Speaker 2: Eight five one O five one. If you need to

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Speaker 2: vent hit us up now. It's the Breakfast Club.

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Speaker 3: Good morning. Off the red nose red?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, had up? Ever whatever I saw?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you wouldn't even say breakfast club pictures.

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Speaker 1: Everybody is DJ n V Charlamage the guy. We are

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Speaker 1: to Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building.

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Speaker 3: Yes, indeed we have Pastor Mike Todd.

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Speaker 1: Welcome brother.

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Speaker 12: What's going on?

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Speaker 3: Family?

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Speaker 11: Good?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 12: But I'm blessed man. I'm at the breakfast club with y'all.

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Speaker 3: I'm blessed, black and holly favored.

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Speaker 11: You are definitely black, blessed and highly favored. It feels

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Speaker 11: I feel like all of us are blessed, black and hot.

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Speaker 11: Absolutely feels good. Thank you for having me. Man, Happy

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Speaker 7: Man, new book, damage would not destroyed from trauma to triumph.

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Speaker 12: Yes, sir, powerful title.

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Speaker 11: Bro. It's my life, okay, and it's honestly, I believe

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Speaker 11: a lot of people's life that they don't share.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 11: You see everybody from people who go from the gutter

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 3: I have a theory about that. What is it?

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Speaker 7: I think the theory now, Like I'm forty five years old.

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Speaker 7: So you look good, so grown, thank you brother. So

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Speaker 7: growing up, you know, it was those stories of overcoming,

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Speaker 7: from nowadays because of this soul called cancel culture. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: nobody wants to talk about the mistakes that they made. Yeah, no,

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Speaker 12: Will, but it's temporary.

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Speaker 11: Like the truth of the matter is, because I'm a

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Speaker 3: That's what crisis them.

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Speaker 11: But the words of our own testimony, even if you

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Speaker 11: don't believe what I believe. The truth is when you

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Speaker 11: And a lot of people are robbing other people of

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Speaker 7: I used to know I believe you. I agree with

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Speaker 7: nobody can use your truth against you. Well, boy, they

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Speaker 7: will try.

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Speaker 3: They'll try.

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Speaker 11: the cheating and you actually.

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Speaker 12: Did the work and with the therapy and you actually yeah.

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Speaker 11: No, I did embezzle that money, but I'm not gonna

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Speaker 11: do that and never again. And I'm like, when you

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Speaker 11: actually grow. I believe that this life is about progression,

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Speaker 3: But I really believe, like.

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Speaker 11: When you cut it all down, it's one baby step

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Speaker 1: Moment.

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Speaker 2: How important is a support system, right, because yeah, he

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Speaker 2: came with your wife, Charlamaze been with his wife twenty

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Speaker 2: A lot of times you hear people say I don't

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Speaker 1: They never talk about the heart.

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Speaker 11: The truth of the matter is dumb. Yeah you say that,

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Speaker 11: one of the greatest furniture companies. No matter what you

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Speaker 11: the same way God never TDJ says it. God never

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Speaker 11: You can't instagram integrity, you can't facebook faithfulness.

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Speaker 3: And so look at my man. He dd it up.

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Speaker 11: The greatest things that have made me and my wife's

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Speaker 11: And so when you say support system, bro, that is

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Speaker 11: Like that word that you said just the second ago,

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Speaker 11: The whole time I tell people, community is everything. Having

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Speaker 7: What was your breakthrough moment that incled you to be

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Speaker 3: A son, our second son. His name is MJ my namesake.

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Speaker 3: My first book goes number one New York Times bestseller.

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Speaker 11: And I tried to do everything I knew how to do,

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Speaker 3: My life and he said yep.

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Speaker 11: He was like, yeah, when did God's standard become lower

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Speaker 3: Good, why is yours great? Then he asked me this question,

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Speaker 11: And what ended up happening from twelve years old to

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Speaker 11: because I spent the money. Everybody talking about investing property,

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Speaker 3: As always say, invest in your mental wealth.

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Speaker 11: This is why I wrote this book. This may not

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Speaker 11: book because if anybody actually reads this, they're gonna be like, Dang,

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Speaker 1: All right, we got more with Pastor Mike Todd. When

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Speaker 3: It's the breakfast Club. Good morning, the breakfast Club.

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Speaker 2: Yep, went back is the breakfast Club. And Pastor Mike

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Speaker 2: Todd is here. His book Damage but Not Destroyed, From

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Speaker 2: Trauma to Triumph is out right now, Charlamagne.

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Speaker 3: With an untransferred to wounds.

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Speaker 11: The truth of the matter is every wound that you

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Speaker 11: I said earlier, what's not transformed is transferred. You got

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Speaker 11: because you received it the way that you handle issue,

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Speaker 11: had a pornography addiction. I mean jacked up, taking my money,

451
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Speaker 11: my mind, my focus, money. Oh bro, yeah, back in

452
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Speaker 11: the day, you know when Okay, come on now, don't

453
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Speaker 11: act like you did in three ninety nine.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes come on now.

455
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Speaker 11: And if you was buying magazines or if you're doing

456
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Speaker 11: any of it, come on, let's be honest. It was

457
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Speaker 11: robbing me, and the money was the least part of it. Well,

458
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Speaker 11: I'm going through this whole thing by myself. I'm suffering,

459
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Speaker 11: still trying to pray, still trying to love God, still

460
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Speaker 11: trying to And if somebody's like the pastor I tell

461
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Speaker 11: it every Sunday, don't even trip like because we out here,

462
00:17:56,040 --> 00:18:00,560
Speaker 11: every man is actually struggling with something. Okay, I'm out

463
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Speaker 11: here addicted, trying to do what I've been called to do.

464
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Speaker 11: After I actually start going through the process of healing

465
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Speaker 11: and making decisions and making disciplines and.

466
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Speaker 3: Being accountable and all this other stuff.

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Speaker 11: I find out my dad he was a drum major

468
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Speaker 11: for Gramlin State University, and they came to New York.

469
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Speaker 12: There was a street back in the day.

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Speaker 11: Now, this back back in the day where they had

471
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Speaker 11: peep shows down the whole street.

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Speaker 3: That's forty second Street.

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Speaker 12: Okay, so he know.

474
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Speaker 11: The street, forty second Street, and he said, back in

475
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Speaker 11: the day, they got here on the bus and he said,

476
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Speaker 11: he got a pocket full of quarters, and you could

477
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Speaker 11: go and you could put the money in the machine

478
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Speaker 11: and then the curtain would open and you see naked women.

479
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Speaker 11: Back in the day, that was the equivalent of pornography,

480
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Speaker 11: he said. After I told him what I was going through,

481
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Speaker 11: he said, Mike, I'm sorry. I'm sorry I never told

482
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Speaker 11: you about it. I'm sorry I never dealt with it publicly.

483
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Speaker 11: I'm sorry that I did this, he said, because I

484
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Speaker 11: had five sons, and every single one of my brothers

485
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Speaker 11: and me dealt with the sexual addiction because what was

486
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Speaker 11: not transformed in him, what's transferred into us.

487
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Speaker 3: Do you get counseling from the other passes.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, definitely. People have been in the game a lot

489
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Speaker 12: longer than me.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 11: Man, we had an awesome meeting for probably about five

492
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Speaker 11: hours at a restaurant.

493
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Speaker 12: Tdj's. He's like the og of OG's.

494
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Speaker 11: So so he we met and it was like in

495
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Speaker 11: this secret building that was unmarked and we went up

496
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Speaker 11: and like you hit the floor and it's like a restaurant.

497
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Speaker 11: I'm like where am I was like me with the Godfather?

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Speaker 3: You understand?

499
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Speaker 11: Yeah, And I'm like I'm like what is going on?

500
00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:37,720
Speaker 11: And that man just begin to pour into me. I

501
00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:43,040
Speaker 11: love td Jake's as just somebody who talks even more

502
00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:44,240
Speaker 11: than preaching, if.

503
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Speaker 12: You ever get to just talk to him.

504
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Speaker 11: That mentorship, mentorship from Tim Ross, mentorship from Robert Morris,

505
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Speaker 11: mentorship from Steven Ferdick, mentorship from all Like it's invaluable

506
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Speaker 11: what you learn from people who've been damaged. It's invaluable

507
00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,520
Speaker 11: what you can learn from somebody who will share from

508
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Speaker 11: their damage.

509
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Speaker 3: And that's what all of those men did.

510
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Speaker 11: Like if I think about it right now, like I'm

511
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Speaker 11: thinking you call it mentoring, but all mentor mentoring it

512
00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:13,800
Speaker 11: really is, is people showing you where they messed up,

513
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Speaker 11: where they should have done it differently, sharing from their

514
00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:18,080
Speaker 11: damage and it helps push you.

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Speaker 3: Into your desks. Was just after the spit incident.

516
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Speaker 11: No, bro, that was before. Okay, because I'm the spit

517
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Speaker 11: hits the fan. That's what I call it.

518
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Speaker 2: Fact break it down. People don't know. I know we

519
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Speaker 2: reported a long time ago.

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Speaker 12: First off, let me say this.

521
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Speaker 11: I am not a regular preacher, like when I say

522
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Speaker 11: a regular preacher, like, I was bored in church.

523
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Speaker 3: And so when God.

524
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Speaker 11: Called me to preach, I was like, all right, I'm

525
00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,680
Speaker 11: gonna actually use everything that I have to help people

526
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Speaker 11: get it. And so I tell stories, I use examples,

527
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Speaker 11: and honestly I'm doing everything how Virgil Ablo said for

528
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Speaker 11: my seventeen year old self. Most seventeen year olds, they

529
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Speaker 11: don't care nothing about church. They trying to see the

530
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Speaker 11: girl with the booty and go eat and go play

531
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Speaker 11: with it. So I'm trying to like capture. So I've

532
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Speaker 11: always used examples and stuff like that. And so there's

533
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Speaker 11: this in the Bible where Jesus basically heals a man

534
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Speaker 11: by spitting on his hand and putting on his face.

535
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Speaker 11: And so this is an example I'd done three times before.

536
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Speaker 11: And this is what my blood, little brother. This is

537
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Speaker 11: not some random audience member or anything like this. Now,

538
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Speaker 11: this is a brother we fought blood, like, this is

539
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Speaker 11: my little brother, and he wanted to do the example

540
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Speaker 11: with me so I could show it.

541
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Speaker 12: And the whole idea was many people will not be

542
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Speaker 12: willing to go through a messy process to get their healing.

543
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Speaker 12: So the idea was this man was blind, he wasn't deaf.

544
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Speaker 12: So if Jesus is about to spit, he's standing there

545
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Speaker 12: in front of Jesus and he can hear, Like if

546
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Speaker 12: you hear somebody about the Huckalula, you're like, oh my god.

547
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Speaker 11: And I was trying to say, as disgusting as this is,

548
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Speaker 11: that man stayed there and he received something that nobody

549
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Speaker 11: else could give him. And as I was saying that,

550
00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,800
Speaker 11: I said, maybe you the counseling would be messy for you,

551
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Speaker 11: Maybe apologizing would be messy for you. Maybe downsizing your

552
00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:00,679
Speaker 11: house would be messy for you. Do You've put on

553
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,400
Speaker 11: this whole thing about how God blessed you, But what

554
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,879
Speaker 11: if on the other side of this mess was your healing?

555
00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,359
Speaker 11: And I did the example. It worked too well, and

556
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Speaker 11: by that night we was on DMZ, CNN, next Morning,

557
00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:18,080
Speaker 11: Breakfast Club, all that other stuff, and it was somebody

558
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Speaker 11: was saying to me the other day there was like.

559
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Speaker 3: Do you wish it wouldn't have happened?

560
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Speaker 11: I was like, honestly, no, it shocked me, but what

561
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Speaker 11: I had to deal with internally and what I had

562
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Speaker 11: to become okay with inside of me because of that situation,

563
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Speaker 11: it made me into a man.

564
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Speaker 3: That I would have never met had it not happened.

565
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Speaker 11: It changed my whole view of who I was called

566
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Speaker 11: to reach and how much I needed anybody's applause damaged.

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Speaker 3: What do you hope people get from this book? Man?

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Speaker 11: I believe that if you read this book and actually

569
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Speaker 11: do the work that's in here.

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Speaker 3: I tell people this all the time.

571
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Speaker 11: It may not have been your fault what happened to you,

572
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Speaker 11: but it is now your responsibility. It's time to do

573
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Speaker 11: the work. I'm just here to say I've had to

574
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Speaker 11: do the work in front of people, with one hundreds

575
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Speaker 11: of thousand people's watching me, judging me all this stuff.

576
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Speaker 11: You can do this work, no matter where you are,

577
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 11: how much money you have, what your family thinks about it.

578
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Speaker 11: You will become a different person that will be able

579
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Speaker 11: to actually be a blessing to other people. The healed

580
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Speaker 11: version of you is better than the version of you

581
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Speaker 11: that you have right now. I dedicated this book to

582
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Speaker 11: my great grandkids, like in the dedication. Now my oldest

583
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Speaker 11: daughter's ten, and I dedicated it because the Bible says

584
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Speaker 11: a good man leaves in inheritance for his children's children.

585
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Speaker 11: And yes, I want to leave them houses. Yes I

586
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Speaker 11: want to leave them investments, but I want to leave

587
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Speaker 11: them emotional health. I pray one day my grandson picks

588
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Speaker 11: this book up and is able to say, my Grandpapa

589
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,480
Speaker 11: dealt with his stuff. And I know I'm struggling right

590
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Speaker 11: now because life be lifing and everybody's gonna go through it.

591
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Speaker 11: But God be God, But God be God, and therapy

592
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Speaker 11: be be therapy. And that's why the back of the

593
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Speaker 11: it's a double cover. The front is me smiling, that's

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Speaker 11: the triumph, but the back of it is me, my dad,

595
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Speaker 11: my four brothers, and my son. This is a picture

596
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Speaker 11: of all of us. It looks like me, but it's

597
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 11: all of us. Because your damage affects every person you

598
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Speaker 11: say you love. So if you want to do the work,

599
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 11: join me damage, but not to sureuse.

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Speaker 9: Father.

601
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Speaker 11: We just thank you for this opportunity to be here,

602
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,359
Speaker 11: to be in this moment, to be with you, for

603
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Speaker 11: everybody listening and with my four brothers in the room.

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Speaker 11: I thank you, Father that something was said here that

605
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Speaker 11: sparks their faith to believe that you can help them

606
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Speaker 11: deal with their damage.

607
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Speaker 3: God, we got.

608
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Speaker 11: Different relationships, different responsibilities, different pains, different hurts, but God,

609
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Speaker 11: you know them all. I thank you that by faith,

610
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 11: something is about to change on the inside of every

611
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 11: person under the sound of my voice bring back a moment,

612
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Speaker 11: a memory, a reason why they need to make this step.

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Speaker 11: And I thank you that no matter what has happened

614
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Speaker 11: to them, no matter how bad or how good, I

615
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:08,639
Speaker 11: thank you that you can take our trauma and you

616
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Speaker 11: can turn it into triumph. You can take our pain

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Speaker 11: and you can turn it into platform. Father, I thank

618
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Speaker 11: you for all the people who are damage but not destroyed.

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Speaker 11: Blessed Him, is my prayer in Jesus name. We agree.

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Speaker 3: Amen, Amen, ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 2: Pastor Mike Todd, we appreciate you, Brother, I appreciate y'all.

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Speaker 3: It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

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Speaker 1: We are the Breakfast Club.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: If you're just joining us.

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Speaker 2: Big Mac one of our producers up here, you know

627
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Speaker 2: him from wild'n Out. He got pretty upset and that's

628
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Speaker 2: because Jess hilarious very own. Just Ilarius had a baby

629
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Speaker 2: shower and didn't invite him, and he's mentioned it several

630
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Speaker 2: times and he's pretty upset about it. He's even said

631
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Speaker 2: that you guys shoot skits together, you guys do the

632
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Speaker 2: eating videos with each other, and he was pretty heard

633
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Speaker 2: about it.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna be honest with you.

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Speaker 7: All of those things are things that it feels like

636
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Speaker 7: just Hilarius is forced to do because just gonna eat

637
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Speaker 7: regardless because she's pregnant, you know what I mean. So

638
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Speaker 7: I think Mac is using her as an excuse to

639
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 7: eat more. And the skid thing is all about showing stomachs.

640
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Speaker 7: Oh so Jess is showing her stomach for nine months.

641
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,199
Speaker 7: After nine months, you're not gonna have a stomach. Mac

642
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 7: has had that stomach at least thirty at least thirty

643
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Speaker 7: how long he was an intern up here?

644
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Speaker 3: How long ago?

645
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Speaker 1: About least fifteen fifteen years ago.

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Speaker 7: So I'm gonna get I'm gonna say he had that

647
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Speaker 7: stomach for thirty years. So whose stomach youre gonna Who're

648
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 7: gonna do that with? When I'm just going back.

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Speaker 3: He's not gonna do it with me. He's not gonna talk.

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Speaker 14: He not even we not even want to be thinking

651
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Speaker 14: about doing him some way after I come in.

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Speaker 1: So, jess, how come we didn't invite Mack just because.

653
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Speaker 8: I don't y'all know I am not a good lie.

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Speaker 14: I know, I just know like it's just because.

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Speaker 1: You ain't think of it, that's.

656
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Speaker 7: Really that's the reality of just because I knew what

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Speaker 7: Jeff told me about the baby shower two months ago,

658
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Speaker 7: and I knew I was gonna be out the country

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Speaker 7: and so I couldn't attend.

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Speaker 1: So she didn't want back there.

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Speaker 3: That's fine.

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Speaker 7: And it's not even that she didn't not want Mac there.

663
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Speaker 7: She she wasn't thinking about Mac.

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Speaker 1: Let us be for herself.

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Speaker 14: Maybe she didn't want back then, but that's what it

666
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Speaker 14: wasn't No, it's not that I didn't want to make that.

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Speaker 8: First of all, people love Mac. A lot of people

668
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Speaker 8: love Mac and they all know Mac in my family.

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Speaker 8: No Max here, but no, like what is wrong?

670
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 3: It wasn't enough, fool and not even ibody.

671
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 8: Jim Bowhead is too Indian. You ain't com You wasn't

672
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 8: in Africa.

673
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 1: I was at a show.

674
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,399
Speaker 9: I was out of town. I was in Columbia, South Carolina.

675
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 7: Somebody just called you was not in Columbia on the

676
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 7: fourth on Saturday, on the sas I was, I was

677
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:35,639
Speaker 7: on it on the Saturday.

678
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 3: That was this All right then cool?

679
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 8: All right, So it is what it is.

680
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 3: But back to MAC.

681
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 8: I will see when I get back.

682
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 3: Boom damn.

683
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 2: Julisa Yalla, good morning, Good morning, m B, good morning, dress.

684
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 5: Congratulations, thank you.

685
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,880
Speaker 1: Bab Jalsa. Do you have co workers like that?

686
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 5: Yes, the multiple They think they should be invited to everything.

687
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 5: And I made the mistake before and became really close

688
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,160
Speaker 5: to my coworker and it didn't work out. I ended

689
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 5: up having am getting too little fist fight with one.

690
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 6: Did you win because this man, I'm daking.

691
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 5: I don't play the.

692
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 3: I didn't ask you that, that's who. Did you win?

693
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:21,360
Speaker 16: Yes?

694
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:21,639
Speaker 3: I did?

695
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:22,120
Speaker 16: Yes?

696
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 3: I did?

697
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 5: Okay, but yeah, you can't mix business with you.

698
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,679
Speaker 8: Know, personal life level.

699
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. So you got into a

700
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,399
Speaker 3: fist fight with a stud you was dating on your job. Jesus, stop,

701
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 3: tell the truth, tell the truth.

702
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 5: No I did it.

703
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 6: No, I did it.

704
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 3: I hear it in her voice. You don't want to Admittican

705
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 3: you're making.

706
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 6: Girls.

707
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, what's up, y'all?

708
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 6: What's up? Good morning?

709
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 2: This says, your co worker is be having parties and

710
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 2: nobody be inviting you.

711
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, they don't be inviting me, like they'd be talking about, Oh,

712
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 4: we're not inviting house because basically I'm the new girl there.

713
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 15: But they be thinking like it bothers me.

714
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 4: I don't want to tell what you'll you'll old legs

715
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 4: forty and up.

716
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 3: Watch your mouth? How old are you?

717
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 6: I'm thirty?

718
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 3: Die you want to go? Because if you wouldn't go,

719
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 3: if you didn't want to go, you wouldn't be mentioning it. You.

720
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:23,479
Speaker 5: I don't. I don't want to go.

721
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:24,479
Speaker 4: I don't want to go.

722
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 5: I like being a homebody.

723
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 7: You lying you want to go hit the electric slide

724
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 7: with them old heads one time that you do.

725
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 5: I'm just trying to deal with her young kids. I'll

726
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 5: be doing the hits with the young kids.

727
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 3: Where are you from?

728
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 5: I'm from Harlem?

729
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, well that's.

730
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, so we'd be doing the little hits and stuff

731
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 5: like that.

732
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 4: My kids be laughing at me.

733
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 7: Well, I hope that your coworkers continue not to invite you, because.

734
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 5: I'm gonna be having my own party and my kids.

735
00:29:57,960 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 3: That's what mac gonna say. Now I'm gonna have my own.

736
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 3: I'm look pregnant.

737
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 1: Oh my eight hundred five five one o five one.

738
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,479
Speaker 2: If you're just joining us, Big Mac, one of our

739
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 2: producers up here, was very upset that he didn't get

740
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 2: invited to Jess Hilarious his birthday.

741
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,959
Speaker 1: Party, birthday, birthday, baby shower.

742
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 14: It was actually Chris birthday, buddy, because it was Chris

743
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 14: birthday too.

744
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 8: Yeah, Chris cancer.

745
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 2: July said, go ahead, Chris, but you didn't even mention

746
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 2: that you invited other people up here, but just not him.

747
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 8: What is you talking about, like, y'all.

748
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 1: Five a five one o five one?

749
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 9: Uh?

750
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 2: Do you have a coworker that invites everybody but you

751
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 2: to your party?

752
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 3: Is it just you? Let's talk about it.

753
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 2: It's the Breakfast you changed it.

754
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 3: The Breakfast Club.

755
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 2: Won everybody's Jess hilarious, Charla mean the guy we are

756
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 2: the Breakfast Club.

757
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 1: You got a special guest in the buildings.

758
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 3: Indeed, what time tribute? Welcome bro?

759
00:30:59,440 --> 00:30:59,959
Speaker 9: I mean, what's up?

760
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 10: Yeah?

761
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 1: How you congratulations?

762
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 2: They just won a Grammy twenty twenty four Grammy for

763
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 2: that gospel album.

764
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 3: So congratulating, Oh thank you.

765
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, three in total. Man, I'm so hype about that

766
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 1: and excited.

767
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 3: You know.

768
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 1: Uh, it wasn't needed, but it's it's appreciated.

769
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 3: Do you pray for stuff like that?

770
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 8: Nah?

771
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 1: I used to. Okay, Okay, I used to, but I

772
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 1: had to get my you know, the reason why I

773
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 1: do what I do. I had to get that in order.

774
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 1: I had to you know, yeah, intention exactly. Last year

775
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 1: I was nominated for two Grammys, and I just knew

776
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: I was gonna walk away with at least one. And

777
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 1: when I walked away with none, it was like a

778
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 1: soul check for me, Like, all right, well, why do

779
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 1: you do what you do?

780
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 7: Bro?

781
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 1: You gotta just just kind of reevaluate all of that stuff.

782
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 1: So I kind of like stopped needing and or stopped

783
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 1: wanting this so bad and stopped so ambitiously going for it.

784
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 3: Just stick to it.

785
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 1: The reason why I do what I do, have fun

786
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 1: doing it, Bless the people, show love, give them Christ.

787
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 1: And uh, this year, when I walked away with it, Yo,

788
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 1: we literally sat like in the back because the Gospels

789
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 1: they don't present the Gospel on the on the Grammy.

790
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: We got the pre award they could do. It was

791
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 1: like nine o'clock in the morning.

792
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

793
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 1: I had to wake up all early, and we went

794
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 1: to the pre show and it's open seating there, so

795
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 1: you can see anywhere you want. So my manager like, Yo,

796
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 1: come on, let's let's go to the front.

797
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 10: Bro.

798
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, nah, man, I'm just gonna sit back here.

799
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 1: We're gonna take an l I don't like that long

800
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 1: walk of shame. It's too far, so let's just stay

801
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 1: close to the exit. So we was in the back

802
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 1: chill and I got it all on video and they

803
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 1: called everybody's name. Of course when they call my name,

804
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 1: I was like, because I was really content. I had

805
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 1: to learn really just to be content, because you know,

806
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 1: being overly ambitious just robs you of gratitude. Then you

807
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 1: just get on and feel like going down that rabbit hole.

808
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 1: So you have to take that long walk up to

809
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 1: the stage that I was running like, oh my goodness,

810
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 1: trying to figure out what I'm gonna say on the

811
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: way because I literally didn't respect to win, but you know,

812
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 1: I was gonna be there to show them how to

813
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 1: be a good, sore loser in Christ.

814
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 2: I want to ask you what I'm saying with being

815
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 2: a gospel singer, do you feel like it's a lot

816
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 2: of pressure on you where it's almost like people look

817
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 2: at your life differently right, Like it's almost like they

818
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 2: want you to be perfect.

819
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 1: Do you have a hard time dealing with that? I

820
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 1: dealt with that before I became a guy for artists.

821
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 1: So speaking of growing up in this small church, my

822
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 1: grandmother was the pastor. First, my dad was on the organ.

823
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 1: I'm watching him every Sunday, like, oh my god, this

824
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:13,479
Speaker 1: guy is amazing. I start playing. Then he became the pastor.

825
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 1: So I got that pressure as a PK, the perfection,

826
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 1: all of that, all of that. I got all of

827
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 1: that pressures as a young kid, like twelve nine when

828
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 1: I was. Since I was, since I've been born, spotlight

829
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 1: has been on.

830
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 3: Me to be the poster child for what Christ is.

831
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 3: I'm like, Yo. The worst.

832
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 7: Pressure though, because of the pressures.

833
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 1: Damn too much hand comes leads to rebellion. Man, you

834
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 1: know what I mean? That legalism and that religious structure.

835
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 1: It leads to like, Yo, I'm not cut out for this.

836
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 1: I didn't sign up for this, y'all sign up for

837
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 1: this and the expectation is too much for me, yo,

838
00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 1: So I just rebell People go completely opposite of the

839
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 1: ways that their parents bring them up when you bring

840
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 1: them up too strict. I came up the same way.

841
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 1: I had the pressure of perfection and I tried to

842
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 1: live up to it until my parents got a divorce.

843
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 3: And I'm like, whoa.

844
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,800
Speaker 1: In my day that was like, you know, it's normal

845
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 1: now every day it happens every day. Back then, it

846
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 1: was like a culture shouting for me. It shattered my

847
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:19,240
Speaker 1: whole world.

848
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 9: I was like, bump the church. Then, what I'm doing there?

849
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 3: Why am I being fable to God in it?

850
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 9: Man? My dad?

851
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 1: I'm out, you know what I'm saying. That's when I

852
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 1: went to all the clubs did all that stuff. I

853
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 1: didn't dance, though, I just played at all the clubs.

854
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,760
Speaker 1: I didn't, you know, I still didn't drained and smoked.

855
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 1: I just went and played the keyboard at all the

856
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 1: club for like music, Soul Child, Jill Scott, everybody in

857
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 1: the Philadelphia area, the roots and all that stuff. So

858
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 1: I'm in there playing hymns to the beasts. They don't

859
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 1: even know what I'm doing. But I kind of had

860
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,439
Speaker 1: my little rebellious moment during that time, just to find

861
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 1: out who I am outside of y'all expectations. Man, I

862
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:53,839
Speaker 1: said to who y'all saying God is to me, Let

863
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 1: me find them for myself, let me figure out who

864
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 1: I am for myself. And it's been the most liberating thing.

865
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,800
Speaker 1: And I've been walking in that sense of those triggers

866
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 1: resurface in your marriage when you separated, oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah.

867
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 1: Well me and my wife separated. It was it was.

868
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:08,320
Speaker 1: It was bad, yo, it was.

869
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 3: It was very very bad for.

870
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 1: Me because I didn't think my whole thing. When my

871
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:14,919
Speaker 1: father messed up with my dad, I'm like, I ain't

872
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 1: never gonna be like him.

873
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 3: I'm never gonna do that.

874
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 1: No, no, no, So I went the pride way. So

875
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 1: my heart just really was like, you know what I mean,

876
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 1: I got more exposure than he ever got. I got

877
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: more note rioting than he ever got. And I'm still

878
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 1: ain't gonna do what he did. I'm still letting that

879
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 1: pride comes before a fall. And I fell hard and

880
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,800
Speaker 1: I moved to La. My wife was in Jersey. We

881
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,800
Speaker 1: just separated. I didn't think we would ever, you know,

882
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 1: get back together again. I was just out there working

883
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 1: on me.

884
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 3: She was out there.

885
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:44,839
Speaker 1: She was out there working on her, not really trying

886
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 1: to get the marriage back together, and I think when

887
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 1: you try to do that too soon, sometimes you you

888
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 1: damage you know, you damage it because you just your

889
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 1: point is just to try to get them get back together,

890
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 1: but not work on you because you still got stuff

891
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 1: you got to work. I still have stuff I had

892
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 1: to work on. I still had weaknesses I had to

893
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,800
Speaker 1: work on. And so I'm out there working on me.

894
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,320
Speaker 1: She's working on her. I'm praying, she's praying that godd

895
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 1: of just brought our hearts back together. But through that

896
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:11,720
Speaker 1: whole time, I realized my mortality, I realized my humanism,

897
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 1: I realized my weaknesses. I realized who I was for real,

898
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 1: Like this religious perspective. I became that Like like now

899
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 1: I'm a pastor, right, But I don't say I'm a pastor.

900
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,320
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just a child of God with an assignment.

901
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 1: You understand what I'm saying. I'm a child of God

902
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 1: who got something to say to a certain group of people.

903
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 1: I don't become my assignment. You understand what I'm saying.

904
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 1: But that's the world today. If I were to meet

905
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 1: you in the street, the first thing I'll say is

906
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 1: what do you do?

907
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 3: Not who are you?

908
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:40,839
Speaker 1: You understand what I'm saying, and I think we lose

909
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 1: who we are and what we do. And that's what

910
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 1: I did. I got lost in all of that, and

911
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:46,320
Speaker 1: I forgot who I was.

912
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 7: I think you and your whole situation is just a

913
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 7: testament to the glory of God. You, you and your

914
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 7: wife are together.

915
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 3: Now, right.

916
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's right here, right behind me.

917
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 7: Man.

918
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, she survived the car into a lot.

919
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,320
Speaker 1: Ye, a whole a whole, a whole lot. It seemed

920
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 1: like a series of unfortunate events, you know what I'm saying.

921
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 1: And her life, I mean, it's just it just it

922
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 1: just starts from I was gonna say it starts from birth.

923
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: Everybody's life starts from birth.

924
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 7: Uh.

925
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:18,359
Speaker 1: But with the with growing up with parents like I had,

926
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 1: and she was basically fatherless for a long period of time,

927
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 1: you grow up with a whole lot of unmet needs, you.

928
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 6: Know what I mean.

929
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 1: You have needs as a child that you should have

930
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 1: met that you don't have met. Security, protection, encouragement, validation,

931
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 1: all of these things.

932
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:32,760
Speaker 3: We we affection.

933
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 1: We have to grow up without that, right, So now

934
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 1: we got to make the choice of either like living

935
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: without it or killing the desire period. So now we

936
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 1: commit what we call my man, Tim Fletcher calls sole suicide.

937
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 1: So you commit sole suicide because as a child of

938
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,320
Speaker 1: three year old, I need affection. I don't know I

939
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,320
Speaker 1: need it, but naturally I need it. And if I

940
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: don't get it, I just killed.

941
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 3: A desire for it.

942
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 1: So now I'm in a relationship and I don't know

943
00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 1: how to be affectionate you understand what I'm saying. Or

944
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: I got kids and I don't know how to show

945
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 1: that because I've been killed that. So now we're trying

946
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 1: to like restore those things and trying to do it

947
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 1: in the context of marriage. I married her at eighteen.

948
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: I was twenty one, So that's a that's a kid.

949
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 1: Those are kids When I look at them ages now,

950
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, it was a kid, that little really

951
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 1: little kid.

952
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 3: We together? Huh. How long y'all been together?

953
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: Twenty eight now, yeah, that's twenty eight years.

954
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, my wife twenty six over being his wife thirty.

955
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 2: Oh congrass bro We got more with tid tribute when

956
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 2: we come back, don't move. It's the breakfast Club.

957
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 3: Good morning more.

958
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,879
Speaker 2: Everybody, j D Jesse, Larry Schela, me and the guy.

959
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 2: We are the breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with

960
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 2: Tied tribute. Now, it seems like for a while, maybe

961
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 2: the last ten years, it seems like being a pastor

962
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 2: was cool, right, So it was like like everybody wanted

963
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 2: to be a rapper, everybody wanted to be a podcast host,

964
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:50,800
Speaker 2: list like a lot of people wanted to be a

965
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:52,240
Speaker 2: pastor for the wrong reasons.

966
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, how do you feel about that? You missed that

967
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 1: air the past error?

968
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:56,320
Speaker 3: I remember the pastor.

969
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 1: You know, man, we're building them huge churches. Everybody was.

970
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:04,919
Speaker 1: I think the pastor phenomenon came from, oh, man, getting money.

971
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 8: There's a bunch of different things. You can speak to

972
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:09,800
Speaker 8: them more, but I think getting money.

973
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,359
Speaker 14: In the church and how you look and how you're

974
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,800
Speaker 14: praised and you forget that he's supposed to be praised,

975
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 14: but I praise you and all that type of stuff.

976
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,359
Speaker 8: So yeah, I see a lot of Instagram pass out there.

977
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 1: But you know, it is killed. You killed that whole thing.

978
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 1: I think a lot of pastors were not called the pastor.

979
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 1: They just you know, study, you go to school and

980
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 1: then you just become a pastor, like you become a

981
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 1: manager at you know, publics or something like that, and

982
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 1: that's that's unfortunate for a lot of people who invest

983
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 1: their you know, money, time, attention, and their soul into

984
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 1: people who they believe are literally called from God. I

985
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: don't believe a lot of pastors are. I think. I

986
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 1: think it's a system. Now on God, It's a system.

987
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 1: Everything is a system, and systems work with or without God.

988
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 1: So I think the institution of church is whack. I

989
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 1: think how church is ran is whack. I think the

990
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 1: religious system and structure is whack. I don't subscribe to it.

991
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 1: Even though I grew up in it, I benefited from it,

992
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 1: but I learned that God is not the church. And

993
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 1: once I realized whoa God?

994
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 3: Ain't church for me? You know what I mean.

995
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 1: I ain't from the streets. I'm from the church.

996
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 3: So that was a huge thing as well. It's in

997
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 3: the Bible to say you can't even find God in

998
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 3: the man made temple. Why don't we read that? Though?

999
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 1: How old did you hear that sermon?

1000
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 3: No?

1001
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:30,479
Speaker 1: You hear people. Pastors make the people about the church.

1002
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 1: We got the church name we church and the church

1003
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:36,240
Speaker 1: and the bumper stick of the church. The church should

1004
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:39,320
Speaker 1: be about the people. The church should be about the people.

1005
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 1: But the church makes the people about the church. So

1006
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 1: all churches now are a movement, but they're not about

1007
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 1: the people. They're not about serving and loving the people.

1008
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 1: So I just kind of pulled that we online right now,

1009
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 1: we're not even in the building, a physical building or

1010
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 1: nothing like that. So Live Church, shout out to Live Church.

1011
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:56,320
Speaker 1: I love y'all so much. But let me ask you

1012
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 1: a question.

1013
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,240
Speaker 2: Right, So, growing up in Queens, I went to Catholic school.

1014
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 2: Right his own school is the worst. So my parents

1015
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 2: was making me go to Capital School. I wasn't going

1016
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 2: to Andrew Jackson. But I noticed in Catholic school as

1017
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 2: a kid, Catholic school thirty thirty minutes, maybe thirty five,

1018
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 2: you are baut of the it's I mean, den gone,

1019
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 2: I'm back home. Baptist Church is three hours, you know

1020
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:16,839
Speaker 2: what I mean.

1021
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 1: So we don't more to say. But it's the point.

1022
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 2: As a kid, you know, you feel like I get

1023
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:23,839
Speaker 2: everything I need in this thirty minutes. I don't need

1024
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 2: this in three and a half hours. I always wonder like,

1025
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 2: why is the church so long? Because you know, you

1026
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 2: got announcements, then you get passed it. You're gonna pass

1027
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 2: it around twice then Since then, so and so got

1028
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 2: out to talk about.

1029
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 8: And if you don't give enough on the first off,

1030
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 8: we almost reach our goal.

1031
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:43,839
Speaker 1: Almost they double back, you know what I mean.

1032
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 3: And I think that's part of it why.

1033
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 1: It's so long. Yeah, I think churches have changed since then.

1034
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 1: I don't think churches is three hours like that anymore.

1035
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,320
Speaker 1: I've seen church trustes like ninety minutes. You know what

1036
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 1: I'm saying. They try to be more mindful of that,

1037
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: and the more you know, current churches and stuff like

1038
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 1: that try to they try to cut that down a

1039
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:02,919
Speaker 1: little bit. But I think the reason is is people

1040
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 1: just have a lot of expression. Man, they got a

1041
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 1: lot of They got a lot to say, They got

1042
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 1: a lot to get out. You understand what I'm saying.

1043
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 1: I hated the law churches. I grew up Pentecostal, So

1044
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 1: Pentecostal church. What three hours? That's it? We're just getting right, yo.

1045
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 1: Three When you said three hours, like what, man, we

1046
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 1: just getting started. We had nothing else to do. We

1047
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 1: ain't had no social media. Sundays was for God, so

1048
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 1: we was gonna stay all Sunday.

1049
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:32,240
Speaker 9: So after the five back, after the five hour service,

1050
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 9: you service, come on what.

1051
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 3: You better stay for that second?

1052
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:47,840
Speaker 1: We got people coming. I hated that, but I'm so

1053
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 1: glad it was like that for me as a young

1054
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 1: You understand what I'm saying. I'm so glad it was

1055
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 1: like that for me because it just kept me from

1056
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 1: a whole lot.

1057
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 3: Is it true that you worked on Justin Tim Blake's

1058
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 3: crimea River?

1059
00:42:58,040 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I worked on I was We was in the

1060
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 1: Root Studio again, growing up in the Philly Camden, Philly area.

1061
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 1: We did our first album at the at the Root Studio.

1062
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 1: Crazy how we got signed to. Vivian Green is like

1063
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 1: an R and B soul artist, and she was doing

1064
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 1: a showcase for Tommy Mottola and Donnie Ironer and the

1065
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 1: mat Sony and she said, Tie, you know, I was

1066
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 1: like her cousin at the time. We were like real close, Tie,

1067
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:21,879
Speaker 1: I want you to m d my showcase. I said,

1068
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 1: all right, Bet, I got a little couple of people

1069
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: from the choir, a couple of people from the band.

1070
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 1: We just put together a little show for viv So,

1071
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 1: speaking of energy and all that, we in there with

1072
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 1: Tommy Mattola and Donnie iron and all these people at

1073
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 1: Columbia and I'm just like young, you know, I'm just playing.

1074
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,280
Speaker 1: I'm like this all the time. If I'm playing, everything

1075
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,839
Speaker 1: is energetic. So they like, we love Vivian Green, we're

1076
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 1: gonna sign her to Columbia, and we're gonna sign this

1077
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 1: guy right here.

1078
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 3: Who's that.

1079
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:43,359
Speaker 1: And it was like, oh, no, no, no, no, that's

1080
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 1: that's a that's a gospel guy. You know, he does

1081
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 1: choir and stuff like that. We're signing Vivian and we're

1082
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 1: signing the gospel guy.

1083
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 3: I was like, what.

1084
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 1: Within ninety days, we had a contract at our crib

1085
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 1: from Columbia Records. No demo, no black and white, no

1086
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 1: no profile pickure, no no nothing, and we got signed

1087
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 1: to Columbia with the you know, y'all were separated. Nah,

1088
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:02,399
Speaker 1: she got her deal.

1089
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 3: I got my deal.

1090
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:05,959
Speaker 1: So my first album came out under Columbia Records called Life.

1091
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 1: Because of that that moment right there, I'm like, well,

1092
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 1: God is really real, you know what I mean. I mean,

1093
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:12,800
Speaker 1: you could say being in the right place at the

1094
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:14,399
Speaker 1: right time, but I believe in the favor of God.

1095
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 1: And so we're doing our album in the Root studio.

1096
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 1: James Poyser shout out. James Poyser was a producer on that.

1097
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 1: He's with the Roots. Now youre seeing on Jimmy Fallon

1098
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:25,919
Speaker 1: every night in the Root studio, they had the plant

1099
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 1: based you know stuff going on every single day. Gee,

1100
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 1: he was in there. We was in there getting contact,

1101
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 1: you'll try to sing the praises of the Lord and

1102
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 1: just being in that environment. Then the Roots is like, oh,

1103
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 1: you know, why don't you do this such a stuffs

1104
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:44,360
Speaker 1: coming to the studio, such as hubs coming to the studio,

1105
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 1: such and such. We just became the choir for like

1106
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 1: everybody who came. So we're on Jessica Simpson's Christmas album

1107
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 1: and we're on uh so many albums as background singers.

1108
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,280
Speaker 1: So Timberland came through and we just caught.

1109
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 3: Him ve Timbland.

1110
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 1: We were just in there just vibing. Tim just put

1111
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 1: a beat on it. We were just in there playing.

1112
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 1: I love working with Tim.

1113
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 3: Tim.

1114
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:07,439
Speaker 1: We could ever do that again, BROI yeah, please, let's

1115
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 1: look that up.

1116
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:08,359
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1117
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 1: So we was in there vibing the cry. Uh criedmea river.

1118
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 1: He said, I got this humble justice. So I'm in

1119
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 1: there like, Okay, dudent, dude, dud dude. So that's me

1120
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 1: playing that literally on the World It Show. That's literally

1121
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 1: literally me. And then the backgrounds on there, and me

1122
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:28,319
Speaker 1: and my girl Marshall from Flower Tree did the background. Yeah.

1123
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 1: Ain't she amazing? Yo? Shout out Marshall.

1124
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:31,359
Speaker 3: I love you girl.

1125
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 1: We did the backgrounds to that, and so just when

1126
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 1: it came out and we listening to it and it's

1127
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 1: everywhere since seventy eleven and said, why, were like, oh my,

1128
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 1: that's us, that's us. Shut up, boy, that'll be twenty dollars.

1129
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. I'm like, waits us, give

1130
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 1: me a little sprite.

1131
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:51,839
Speaker 3: Must have been crazy.

1132
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 1: Did you get paid for it the right way?

1133
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 3: Oh?

1134
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 1: Damn, I got two thousand dollars for the past.

1135
00:45:57,719 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 9: Man, you want to do the past?

1136
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:00,359
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1137
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 7: I know you cried you a River, that's all you

1138
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 7: got that love that Murphy two thousand dollars for griding

1139
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 7: a river.

1140
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got two thousand dollars for that.

1141
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 9: But you played it.

1142
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 3: I played it with that's this song.

1143
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,720
Speaker 8: That's what everybody knows. That's when what you hear, when.

1144
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 3: That's what you look for before anybody else.

1145
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:22,959
Speaker 1: They don't take care of the pastor.

1146
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 9: Tell me called it was?

1147
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 11: It was? It was?

1148
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 1: It was, yeah, But you know I didn't know the

1149
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 1: business at the time, and I was so hyped to

1150
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 1: get two thousand dollars.

1151
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 3: I ain't know what to do.

1152
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:36,760
Speaker 1: Y'all think I treated everybody to a fry at McDonald's. Everybody,

1153
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 1: you understand what I'm saying. So I was just so hyped,

1154
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 1: But I didn't know the business then. So I don't

1155
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 1: got no hard feelings. Yeah, yeah, you go check it

1156
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 1: out all I.

1157
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 9: W won't move.

1158
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 1: We got more with Tie Trivia when we come back,

1159
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:47,280
Speaker 1: Gospel artists.

1160
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:48,319
Speaker 3: It's the Breakfast Club in the morning.

1161
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:48,760
Speaker 9: Morning.

1162
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 2: Everybody interviewing Jess hilarious, Sela mean the guy we are.

1163
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club was to get me with gospel artists.

1164
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:55,720
Speaker 2: Tie Trivia.

1165
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 3: Now, you just got off tour, right.

1166
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 1: I did All Things New tour in the spring, and

1167
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 1: then I did the Reunion tour in the fall winter.

1168
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:02,879
Speaker 1: It was it was an amazing, dude that with Kirk

1169
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 1: and Clark sisters, Israel, David and Tambla. Man, that was

1170
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 1: incredible my first arena tour. Never did that before, so

1171
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 1: I'm like to hear the songs with all them people.

1172
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 1: It was just it was, it was surreal. So we're

1173
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 1: doing it again this year. I'm going out May June

1174
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 1: on the only one night though. Tour only one night though.

1175
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 1: That's my new single that's out, only one night though,

1176
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 1: and the tour is going May June. I'm telling y'all,

1177
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 1: I have a second win of some sort. I don't

1178
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 1: have a second, third, or fourth, whatever, but I have this,

1179
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 1: this momentum behind me right now, and I am so

1180
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 1: excited to get out there and do this music. I

1181
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:41,320
Speaker 1: got new music coming, book coming, podcasts, all this stuff

1182
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 1: is coming, you know, off the hinges of the Grammy.

1183
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 1: And it's just a good season for me right now. Yes,

1184
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 1: I want everybody to come. What He's great.

1185
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:54,800
Speaker 8: For me growing up is wow to your music. You

1186
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 8: you didn't make it?

1187
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 13: You like you?

1188
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 14: You and Kirk Franklin was the first two men that

1189
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 14: did not make listen in the gospel boring right, Franklin's

1190
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 14: That's what I love about you?

1191
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 3: Or the song you remember the way I can't even then?

1192
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 9: You going to the.

1193
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 3: I do you think people have time?

1194
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 1: Is about but do you think people have a problem

1195
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 1: with God?

1196
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 7: No?

1197
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 1: No, most people.

1198
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, my whole life has been God fearing. But see,

1199
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 7: I think that you have to show improve that through actions,

1200
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying. I think it's one thing

1201
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 7: to say, Oh, I believe in God, I love God,

1202
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 7: but do you really try to at least scribe to

1203
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:44,359
Speaker 7: move the way God would want you to move? Okay,

1204
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 7: I think that's the difficult Okay.

1205
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:49,839
Speaker 1: So it's not the belief, it's the behavior, yes, I think.

1206
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, sometimes it's the behavior of the messenger.

1207
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 6: What you mean.

1208
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:55,799
Speaker 2: Somebody will say I have an assignment, right, like you said,

1209
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 2: I have an assignment. And maybe your assignment is to

1210
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 2: help just in her situation and her problem, and maybe

1211
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 2: you do, but then you as a person, it's not

1212
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:07,720
Speaker 2: coming from the perspective of somebody giving the assignment.

1213
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:08,919
Speaker 3: You see what I'm saying.

1214
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 2: But that's what a little bit that's what makes me

1215
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 2: hard to see because you're giving the excitement, but you're

1216
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 2: not living, right.

1217
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 3: It's like, are you really giving it? Nobody around Jesus

1218
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 3: was living.

1219
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 1: That's all about to say, like what's your teacher living algebra? Like,

1220
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Can somebody get can somebody

1221
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:29,840
Speaker 1: give you information that will help you?

1222
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 2: That's still flawed, right, But sometimes it's like it's that

1223
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 2: information true. If you're out there selling crack every night,

1224
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 2: giving crack tiw you you might be feelty and saving me,

1225
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 2: but then you're killing a hundred others. It's like, is

1226
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 2: this hard coming from God? Or is that coming from

1227
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:46,479
Speaker 2: a negative an evil, the devil?

1228
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

1229
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 1: So it's kind of got you hard to trust and

1230
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 1: operate and trust it.

1231
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,320
Speaker 3: But that's acerment exactly.

1232
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 1: So you need the spirit as well, you know what

1233
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:54,439
Speaker 1: I'm saying.

1234
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 3: That's what I think.

1235
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 1: So when I say how you feel about God? I

1236
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 1: was going to ask how you feel about all of that?

1237
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 1: You said you two growing for the wholy but because

1238
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 1: I think they be playing. Yeah, I know what you're saying,

1239
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 1: and some people, some people do they get most most.

1240
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 3: I got one last question because you just made me

1241
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:09,879
Speaker 3: think of something.

1242
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 7: Let's do this conversation me and just had when they

1243
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 7: had the New Year's Eve thing and they did the

1244
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:14,919
Speaker 7: swag surf in the church.

1245
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:16,400
Speaker 3: Thank you' all for having me.

1246
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:20,799
Speaker 14: Man very much clowned out, tell him what you're thought,

1247
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 14: Tell the pants what you're throwing up here.

1248
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 1: I didn't think it was.

1249
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 7: Anything wrong with it because my whole thing was they

1250
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 7: doing it outside the church anyway, you know what I mean.

1251
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 3: So if you're having a and it wasn't like it

1252
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 3: was a regular church service.

1253
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 7: It was new.

1254
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Yeah, what did you think?

1255
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 14: I thought that a lot of clowns were very much

1256
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 14: sorry about that, but you said all of them were

1257
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 14: everybody was clowns because that was the explicit version. Band

1258
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 14: played just like I sold Charlemagne. I'm like, no, I

1259
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 14: didn't grow up like that in church. Like it's just

1260
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 14: certain things you don't play with. You can swag and

1261
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:54,279
Speaker 14: surf one day. Even if he disagreed, o't.

1262
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, I still think that it was clowned out.

1263
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 1: No, I agree with you, and that the lyrics was like, yeah,

1264
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 1: I could believe I was hearing that all day.

1265
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 8: Yeah, I got put on my Yes, girl got a

1266
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 8: bad and a friend.

1267
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 3: Right, they didn't.

1268
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 1: It's an explicit I think that was a mistaken production

1269
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:17,800
Speaker 1: or something like that. I don't think that was intentional.

1270
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 3: I think the church.

1271
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:22,399
Speaker 1: I'm the wildest, craziest, I'm with everything, I swaged whatever.

1272
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 1: I still think that the church should have something a

1273
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 1: sacred like.

1274
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 3: What people where they are they say say me, people

1275
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 3: will they don't.

1276
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:32,400
Speaker 8: Take that and they run with that though I'm not

1277
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:32,800
Speaker 8: with that.

1278
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 9: Nobody.

1279
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 1: If Jesus met somebody where they were, he literally went

1280
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 1: to them. Like when they come to church, they're meeting you.

1281
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 3: Where you are is what you're saying?

1282
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:48,320
Speaker 1: You say, I'm saying they should be across the street

1283
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 1: from the trip club something when they come out, not inside.

1284
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 9: Should be a club.

1285
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 1: I have been to a strip club.

1286
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 3: I have?

1287
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you have, I have been to club.

1288
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 3: Yeah. It was a what birthday was it?

1289
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:03,319
Speaker 1: I'm forty eight now, I just wanted it was one

1290
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 1: of them n years when I was like, forget the church,

1291
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 1: I'm going, I'm going there.

1292
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 3: I did not enjoy.

1293
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 1: I went one time in my entirely to pray over

1294
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:11,839
Speaker 1: the girls. I didn't pray over them, No, I didn't.

1295
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 1: I didn't pray. I prayed over myself more than anything.

1296
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 9: Yeah, like I did not.

1297
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 3: Huh why did you like it?

1298
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 11: Oh?

1299
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 15: Man?

1300
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 11: For real?

1301
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 3: With your wife here is never mind? No?

1302
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:20,800
Speaker 11: No, no, no, no no.

1303
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:26,320
Speaker 3: How did you go to I didn't enjoy. I didn't enjoy.

1304
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 1: I have never talked about this in my life, I said,

1305
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:33,839
Speaker 1: people who know before I have. I didn't enjoy the performers.

1306
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 9: What state was it?

1307
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:39,760
Speaker 3: Florida? Should have went to Atlanta? No, Florida, you mean Florida? Crazy?

1308
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 3: What would do especially in Miami.

1309
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I didn't enjoy. I didn't enjoy the performers,

1310
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,319
Speaker 1: and I was like, this is why I'll be longer.

1311
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, booby Trap wasn't went back there and you love

1312
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 3: It's okay. Professionally, I think I'm God.

1313
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:54,359
Speaker 1: I think God was like, you got it out.

1314
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 3: You're good.

1315
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 1: The little private moment that you straight. So this is

1316
00:52:56,760 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 1: what you wanted, did you? I'm like, man, it's this

1317
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 1: is not five there that night.

1318
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 3: God knew what he was doing.

1319
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 1: I've never I've never ever designed to go back.

1320
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 7: Ever.

1321
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:19,840
Speaker 3: It was horrible, bro, it was horrible.

1322
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 13: Man.

1323
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 1: Can you pray for the stupid show? First of all,

1324
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:25,840
Speaker 1: thank y'all for being like culture leaders.

1325
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 9: Man.

1326
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 1: I appreciate what y'all do for for for the culture.

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Speaker 1: It's amazing what y'all do here. Thanks for keeping it positive.

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Speaker 1: And you crazy. You're all crazy, but that's that's that's

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Speaker 1: who we are, and yeah, we're not ashamed of who

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Speaker 1: we are. Let's pray for a minute, Okay, Father God,

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Speaker 1: I thank you for this opportunity to just to pray

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Speaker 1: over these blessed people and in this show. Pray now

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Speaker 1: God that you just continue to be our guide and

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Speaker 1: our lead. There are so many needs just in this room,

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Speaker 1: and so many needs for people that are listening. We

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Speaker 1: can't solve every need. We don't know every need. But

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Speaker 1: you promised to supply every need. So I pray from

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Speaker 1: emotions to finances, to mental health, to physical health to

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Speaker 1: relational security. I pray that you just supply every need.

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Speaker 1: Once we're in scarcity and we need, we get desperate

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Speaker 1: and we do things that's not even in our character.

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Speaker 1: So may we never be insecure, and may we never

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Speaker 1: lack anything. And when we never fear perfect love, cast

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Speaker 1: out all fear. Fill us with your perfect love today,

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Speaker 1: and we won't fear anything. We won't fear the enemy,

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Speaker 1: we won't fear the way of the world. We won't

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Speaker 1: fear anything because we are.

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Speaker 3: Loved by you.

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Speaker 1: Let everybody know for a maturity that they are loved,

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Speaker 1: crazy and all but vaccilating in all not whatever state

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Speaker 1: we're in, it does not disqualify us from your everlasting love.

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Speaker 1: So embrace us with that today. In the name of Jesus,

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Speaker 1: Bless everyone, Blessed Charlamagne, bless Envy, blessed.

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Speaker 3: Jes Bless this show. God.

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Speaker 1: Let it be a beacon of light and a beacon

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Speaker 1: of hope to everyone who listens. Let me put a

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Speaker 1: smile on people's face, put joy in their heart and

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Speaker 1: happiness in their day. I thank you for the opportunity

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Speaker 1: to pray over this, and I pray in Jesus' name

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Speaker 1: that it prospers in jesus name.

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Speaker 3: Amen.

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Speaker 1: Amen, Hey, I love y'all man so much.

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Speaker 8: Man a democrat. So being junky of the day is

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Speaker 8: a little bit of a mixed question.

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Speaker 9: So like a don't donky of the day, bitch you Now.

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Speaker 3: I've been called a lot of my twenty three years.

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Speaker 8: That donkey of the day is a new wife.

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Speaker 7: Donkey today can go into a thirty nine year old

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Speaker 7: man from Saint Paul named Kyle Bandwerk.

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Speaker 3: Now, I'm gonna tell you something. Times is hard out here. Okay.

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Speaker 3: There's a very wide gap between the haves and the

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Speaker 3: have not.

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Speaker 7: That's why all these politicians need to remember these wise

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00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:54,319
Speaker 7: full words from James Carr Bill, and those words are

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Speaker 7: it's the economy stupid, that's it, nothing more than nothing less.

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Speaker 7: People want to know how you're gonna put more money

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Speaker 7: in their pocket, and people want to know how you're

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Speaker 7: gonna keep them safe.

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Speaker 3: It's that simple.

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Speaker 7: If you're talking about how I can say buddy, If

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Speaker 7: you're talking about how you can make my bills lower,

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Speaker 7: if you're talking about me being able to afford a

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Speaker 7: nice vacation every now and then, you are talking my language.

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Speaker 3: And you know another thing money can buy that. We

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Speaker 3: don't talk about enough transportation. Okay.

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Speaker 7: People want to be able to afford the dependable set

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Speaker 7: of wheels. I'm not talking about no Bentley Phanom Range Rover.

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Speaker 11: No.

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Speaker 3: We not chasing luxury cars.

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Speaker 7: We're sticking to the non luxury cars that we used

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Speaker 7: to to forge, the Honda's, the Nissans, the Keys. Folks

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Speaker 7: just want a reliable set of wheels to get them

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Speaker 7: from A to B. Okay, we take that for granted.

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Speaker 7: In our society. There is someone out there listening to

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Speaker 7: me right now who can't afford a car. They waiting

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Speaker 7: for public transportation right now, waiting for somebody to get

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Speaker 7: him a ride.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 7: They watching people drive by, dreaming of one day owning

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Speaker 7: that twenty thirteen Toyota Avalon. You take it for granted, okay.

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Speaker 7: And this is how we get the Kyle vanworth. See,

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Speaker 7: there was a woman who got pulled over in Saint Paul,

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Speaker 7: and the officer thought she needed a sobriety test. So

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Speaker 7: was the officer was giving a woman a sobriety test.

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Speaker 7: There was a man named Kyle, and Kyle was sitting

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Speaker 7: there at a nearby bus stop, minding his business daydreaming

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Speaker 7: of the day he don't have to ride public transportation anymore,

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Speaker 7: praying for the blessing of a Nissan Ultima. Okay, he

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Speaker 7: just want him a nice little premium call. And he

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Speaker 7: sees this woman getting a sobriety test as he's sitting

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Speaker 7: at the bus stop. He starts thinking himself, look at

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Speaker 7: this woman, possibly drunken driving, mismanaging the blessing of a cause.

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Speaker 7: And then a voice told Kyle, another person's mismanagement of

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Speaker 7: a blessing is an opportunity to show God what you

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Speaker 7: would do if you had said blessing. And then this happened.

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Speaker 7: Let's go to NBC eleven for the report.

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Speaker 17: Police, as part of the state wide towards Zero Death's

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Speaker 17: enforcement focused on arresting and pair of drivers. A Saint

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Speaker 17: Paul police officer pull over a woman he says was

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Speaker 17: speeding driving a Lincoln Navigator at about six pm Sunday,

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Speaker 17: and according to a criminal complaint, when the officer began

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Speaker 17: field sobriety testing, a completely unrelated man who was sitting

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Speaker 17: on a nearby bus stop bench got into the driver's

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Speaker 17: seat of the World Woman's car. Police say the man

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Speaker 17: was thirty nine year old Kyle Van Wirt, who has

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Speaker 17: a long history of minor crimes involving drugs and theft.

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Speaker 17: Before the officer could stop him, court papers say Van

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Speaker 17: Wert sped away in the woman's.

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Speaker 1: Suv after the thief drove away in the Lincoln Navigator.

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Speaker 13: The woman told police her iPhone and other electronics were

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Speaker 13: still inside, so using the iPhone's find.

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Speaker 17: Me app the woman was able to help police track

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Speaker 17: it to Apple.

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Speaker 13: Valley, where they found the iPhone apparently toss out the

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Speaker 13: window by the thief.

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Speaker 17: But little did he know that the woman still had

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Speaker 17: an Apple AirTag dangling from the keychain. Oh, they found

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Speaker 17: the suv, chased it, and finally arrested Van.

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Speaker 7: Work What part of grand theft auto mission is this.

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Speaker 7: Kyle was sitting at the bus stop waiting for somebody

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00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 7: to be drunk, be too drunk to notice their cause missing, okay,

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Speaker 7: and he jumped right in and stole it. That's not

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Speaker 7: even criminal behavior. That's just opportunistic stupidity. Okay, Kyle, even

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Speaker 7: though I'm giving you the credit you deserve for being stupid,

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Speaker 7: I see your vision, Okay, I can understand what she

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00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 7: did da the bus stop, this woman getting a sobriety test.

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Speaker 9: In your mind.

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Speaker 7: In your mind, you was like, if I had the

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Speaker 7: blessing of a car, I would never drive drunk. But

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Speaker 7: you got the weight on the Lord, Kyle, you got

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00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 7: the weight on Jesus. Have patience and wait for the

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00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:16,960
Speaker 7: things you want most. Don't chase it, don't run after it. Please,

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Speaker 7: don't steal it. If God wants you to have it,

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00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:21,640
Speaker 7: he will give it to you. Amen, you can't take it.

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00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 7: And that's what Kyle did. And you heard in the

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Speaker 7: news report he didn't get away simply because the young

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00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 7: woman had an Apple AirTag inside her vehicle. Not to mention,

1458
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Speaker 7: everything is a tracking device nowadays. You heard the news report.

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Speaker 7: The woman left her phone and other electronics in the car.

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Speaker 7: He threw it out the window, but she still had

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Speaker 7: the Apple air tag on her keychain. Also, I need

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Speaker 7: to say, the woman did not get a DWI. Saint Paul.

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Speaker 7: Police said she was not over the legal limit. But

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Speaker 7: guess who was Kyle? Damn, Kyle was high and on drugs.

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00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:56,120
Speaker 7: Police just waiting on his blood test to come back.

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Speaker 3: All right, and as you.

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Speaker 7: Heard in the news report, he has a history of

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Speaker 7: drugs and theft. Wouldn't supp okay, wouldn't surprise me at all.

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Speaker 11: If you steal a card in the middle of a

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Speaker 11: sobriety test while the police are right there, then it's

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Speaker 11: safe to say it's probably you who needed the sobriety test.

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Speaker 3: Please give Kyle band work to sweet Sounds of the Hamiltons.

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Speaker 9: You are donkey, You are the doggy.

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Speaker 7: He aimed a little too high too. Yeah, you don't

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Speaker 7: do that with the Lincoln Navigator. Yes, it's the premium vehicles.

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Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: Stay with the premium vehicles.

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01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:50,600
Speaker 7: Ultimate Nissan, Yeah, Nissan, Ultimate, Maxima, Cayota Camri, you know Avalon,

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01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 7: like say, right in that range.

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01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:56,520
Speaker 3: Nope, I don't know what racy is. I really don't know.

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01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:57,400
Speaker 3: I have no idea.

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01:00:58,680 --> 01:00:59,920
Speaker 16: Can we guess it and just google it?

1483
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:01,440
Speaker 3: Like I don't know? Can we go if you can

1484
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:02,440
Speaker 3: play party Hooper?

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Speaker 6: No?

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01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 3: No, I really have no idea. With richist.

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Speaker 7: Oh, I'm lying I do what I'm talking about. Okay,

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01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 7: let's play a game. And do we really need to

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Speaker 7: play a game?

1490
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:13,720
Speaker 8: You feel like it's a shooting?

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01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:16,720
Speaker 9: I mean, all right, I.

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01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:22,919
Speaker 7: Guess his last name is van Work guys, Kyle van Ward,

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01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:23,760
Speaker 7: so he white?

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01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:28,560
Speaker 3: Yes, you think the game you're taking black at first?

1495
01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:30,439
Speaker 1: Ye tak a little black first?

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01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:32,480
Speaker 3: I was like I would taking a little black at first? Two?

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01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:40,040
Speaker 3: Why where the story went? Why swear the story? Tell

1498
01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:43,720
Speaker 3: me more? Tell us why identify as a cat right now?

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01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:48,480
Speaker 3: I'm just asked me a question. That Nope, all right,

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01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:59,960
Speaker 3: off the red nose? Whoever saw him? You can say.

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Speaker 2: Breakfast Club Morning. Everybody's j n V Jess Hilariy Chlamine

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01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:07,960
Speaker 2: the God. We are the Breakfast Club. We got a

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01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:09,960
Speaker 2: special guest in the building. Come on now we have

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01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 2: Sarah Jake Roberts.

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Speaker 9: Welcome.

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01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:12,480
Speaker 16: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: How are you feeling?

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01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 16: I feel good. I'm a little tired, but I'm glad

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Speaker 16: to be here.

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Speaker 7: Okay, with the new book, power Moves, ignite your confidence

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01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:20,960
Speaker 7: and become a force.

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01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:22,800
Speaker 3: Where did the inspiration for the book come from?

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01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:25,760
Speaker 16: It really started about five years ago.

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01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:27,840
Speaker 10: Whenever I had finished speaking, people would always tell me

1515
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:30,000
Speaker 10: like that was so powerful. You're so powerful, but I

1516
01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:32,200
Speaker 10: didn't really feel powerful, like I'd be in the fight

1517
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:35,920
Speaker 10: of my life up there, and I started just asking God, like,

1518
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:38,160
Speaker 10: what does it mean to truly be powerful? And I

1519
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:40,120
Speaker 10: feel like God just revealed to me that it has

1520
01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:43,160
Speaker 10: so much to do with obedience and authenticity, but not

1521
01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:45,800
Speaker 10: only that, that power is a flow and so what

1522
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:48,280
Speaker 10: makes me powerful when I'm preaching is different than what

1523
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:50,840
Speaker 10: makes me powerful as a mother. So I started digging

1524
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:54,480
Speaker 10: into the fluidity of power and this notion that power

1525
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:58,040
Speaker 10: moves and embracing that from season to season really started

1526
01:02:58,120 --> 01:02:58,920
Speaker 10: resonating with me.

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Speaker 2: I do have a question. This is gonna sound stupid,

1528
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:03,400
Speaker 2: but I just want people to understand. You know where

1529
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:05,720
Speaker 2: you came from and how you got into faith. I

1530
01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:07,760
Speaker 2: know you were here last time. So for people that

1531
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:10,520
Speaker 2: don't know that, they automatically assume that your dad was

1532
01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:12,920
Speaker 2: in it into religion, that's what got you into it.

1533
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:15,600
Speaker 1: But you had a different start with you. So let's

1534
01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 1: talk about that a little bit first.

1535
01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:19,000
Speaker 2: How did you start and how did you get to

1536
01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:21,080
Speaker 2: where you're at now and the fact that you had

1537
01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:23,560
Speaker 2: your first child at fourteen, and let's let's break that.

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01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:25,120
Speaker 9: All down and he's in the studio.

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01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:35,000
Speaker 10: Don't give him that much gas. That's a child over there.

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01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:36,360
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1541
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:38,840
Speaker 10: So my dad has been in ministry in my whole

1542
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:41,480
Speaker 10: life and growing up when I was growing up in church,

1543
01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:44,560
Speaker 10: like we were at church every single day of the week,

1544
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:46,920
Speaker 10: and you either found this spot, you were in the choir,

1545
01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:49,200
Speaker 10: you were dancing, you were doing something, or you.

1546
01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:51,120
Speaker 16: Were like me and you were sitting in the corner somewhere.

1547
01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:53,680
Speaker 10: And I can remember my siblings telling me, like, you're

1548
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:55,240
Speaker 10: gonna go to hell, like you can't shout on me,

1549
01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:58,680
Speaker 10: you can't clap, like you gonna go to hell. And

1550
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:01,000
Speaker 10: I was like, you might be right, because what I'm

1551
01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:04,400
Speaker 10: listening to on the radio likes resonating with me. It

1552
01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:07,000
Speaker 10: doesn't align with what's being preached. And so I never

1553
01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:10,520
Speaker 10: really felt like I had a sense of belonging within faith.

1554
01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:13,040
Speaker 10: And then when my father's ministry kind of took off,

1555
01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:15,760
Speaker 10: I didn't know where I fit within the dynamic of

1556
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:19,040
Speaker 10: our family at all, and so I tried to find

1557
01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:21,320
Speaker 10: myself at thirteen year old, trying to find herself is

1558
01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:24,000
Speaker 10: gonna be open to anything, and so I got pregnant

1559
01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:26,680
Speaker 10: at thirteen. I had my son at fourteen, which just

1560
01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:29,000
Speaker 10: further confirmed to me, like you not one of the

1561
01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:32,240
Speaker 10: good girls. And so I spent probably ten years of

1562
01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:35,120
Speaker 10: my life just being like, all right, faith isn't for me, guys,

1563
01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:37,840
Speaker 10: not for me. I'm gonna figure out what's happening outside.

1564
01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:42,440
Speaker 10: And I got to this space after this traumatic experience

1565
01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:45,960
Speaker 10: in my first marriage where I almost got arrested and

1566
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:48,680
Speaker 10: I was defending the right to keep my kids, and

1567
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:52,240
Speaker 10: I was like, I have tried literally everything, I might

1568
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:54,640
Speaker 10: as well just try faith. And I wasn't trying to

1569
01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:57,280
Speaker 10: build a platform. I was trying to build myself. And

1570
01:04:57,440 --> 01:05:00,400
Speaker 10: I started blogging about all of my experience. And it

1571
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:02,560
Speaker 10: turns out that there were like other women who felt

1572
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:05,320
Speaker 10: maybe forgotten by church, but like because they didn't.

1573
01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:07,200
Speaker 2: Do you feel that way, like, especially because your dad

1574
01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:09,760
Speaker 2: was in ministry, did you feel like his church forgot

1575
01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:11,400
Speaker 2: about you, especially that being your dad.

1576
01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:13,960
Speaker 10: And it's hard, like knowing what I know now, it's

1577
01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:16,840
Speaker 10: hard to say because I felt so much shame from

1578
01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:20,040
Speaker 10: having a teen pregnancy that I'm sure that there were

1579
01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:22,480
Speaker 10: people who were like still loving on me, but I

1580
01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:25,080
Speaker 10: couldn't cut through the idea of like during purity culture,

1581
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:27,800
Speaker 10: the height of purity culture, you didn't got pregnant like this.

1582
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:30,680
Speaker 10: It just doesn't align. And I don't know, because even

1583
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:32,760
Speaker 10: my father is surprised that my life has turned in

1584
01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:34,640
Speaker 10: this direction. So I'm not sure if anyone thought that

1585
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:37,320
Speaker 10: I was gonna be the girl talking about Jesus. But

1586
01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:40,840
Speaker 10: I tried it for myself and I started sharing it

1587
01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:43,760
Speaker 10: with like these other misfits, and it turns out there

1588
01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:46,640
Speaker 10: were a lot of us, like back row churchgoers who

1589
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:48,840
Speaker 10: were there because we had to be but didn't fit in.

1590
01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:51,720
Speaker 10: And I was able to give them a voice and

1591
01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:54,760
Speaker 10: a language through trying to find my own voice in language,

1592
01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:56,280
Speaker 10: and it's resonated with them.

1593
01:05:56,480 --> 01:05:58,280
Speaker 3: What level of ratchet were you on a scale?

1594
01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:03,840
Speaker 16: It like, well, well, at the end of the day,

1595
01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:05,440
Speaker 16: the day's got to end.

1596
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:08,360
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1597
01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:11,000
Speaker 10: I don't even know how to answer that question. But

1598
01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:13,960
Speaker 10: I mean I was not outside, like I was not

1599
01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:16,880
Speaker 10: trying to be the good girl at all. Like I

1600
01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:19,240
Speaker 10: embraced this idea of like you can just do your

1601
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:22,040
Speaker 10: own thing and try anything. So I mean I did

1602
01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:23,080
Speaker 10: quite a few things.

1603
01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:26,160
Speaker 7: It's interesting to hear you say the bishop was surprised

1604
01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:28,200
Speaker 7: to see how things turned out, because I'm sure him

1605
01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:30,080
Speaker 7: and you know, the first lady was praying over you

1606
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:35,160
Speaker 7: and asking God to turn you around, would makes sense, yeah.

1607
01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:38,400
Speaker 10: But I mean I have always been very strong willed.

1608
01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:40,680
Speaker 10: I've always been my own person, and so I think

1609
01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:42,640
Speaker 10: that they were praying. But just like we praying, we like,

1610
01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:44,240
Speaker 10: I don't know if you want to answer this prayer,

1611
01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:46,520
Speaker 10: we'll see how it happens. I don't think that they

1612
01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:49,680
Speaker 10: were for sure knowing that things were absolutely going to

1613
01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:51,480
Speaker 10: turn around. Even if they did turn around, I don't

1614
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:54,040
Speaker 10: think anyone anticipates like, oh, she's going to be a ministry,

1615
01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:55,680
Speaker 10: because that's not necessarily a turn.

1616
01:06:55,600 --> 01:06:57,320
Speaker 16: Around, like maybe she'll figure out who God is.

1617
01:06:57,440 --> 01:06:59,080
Speaker 10: But this fact that she's also going to be a

1618
01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:01,840
Speaker 10: ministry in helping others, that was a wild card nobody

1619
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:02,439
Speaker 10: saw coming.

1620
01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:05,520
Speaker 2: I feel sometimes when especially when people play with the

1621
01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:07,360
Speaker 2: church right, and I'll tell you why I say play

1622
01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:10,640
Speaker 2: with the church, they come off like a very church

1623
01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:11,240
Speaker 2: holier than that.

1624
01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:11,640
Speaker 6: Right.

1625
01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:13,840
Speaker 2: So when they speak a lot of people actually believe

1626
01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:15,920
Speaker 2: it and listen because they feel like they study, they

1627
01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:17,919
Speaker 2: go through it, they read the Bible, et cetera, et cetera,

1628
01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:20,520
Speaker 2: et cetera. But also you realize that person is not

1629
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:23,280
Speaker 2: a good person. So where do you cross the lines

1630
01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:26,440
Speaker 2: of somebody taking on an assignment doing something positive. I

1631
01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:28,440
Speaker 2: think you spoke about it earlier, somebody giving a message

1632
01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:31,000
Speaker 2: opposed to who they are as a person, Like can

1633
01:07:31,120 --> 01:07:33,200
Speaker 2: somebody give a message and be an fed up person?

1634
01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:33,720
Speaker 16: Yeah?

1635
01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:35,600
Speaker 10: I mean a broken clock. It's right twice to day,

1636
01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:36,880
Speaker 10: you know what I mean. You don't even have to

1637
01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:39,240
Speaker 10: be a Christian to say something that could be profound

1638
01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:41,680
Speaker 10: and deep. But that doesn't change the fact that you

1639
01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:45,520
Speaker 10: have an opportunity to be more fully integrated in your character.

1640
01:07:46,120 --> 01:07:48,720
Speaker 10: But I think that the message is that resonate the

1641
01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:51,200
Speaker 10: most are from people who are literally walking it out,

1642
01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:54,400
Speaker 10: living it out, and so it does discredit the message

1643
01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:56,720
Speaker 10: sometimes when you're telling me something that you don't live by.

1644
01:07:56,760 --> 01:07:57,720
Speaker 16: But I think about it like this.

1645
01:07:57,840 --> 01:08:00,480
Speaker 10: So I'm a parent, and now that my children are

1646
01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:03,640
Speaker 10: moving into adulthood, I recognize that many of the things

1647
01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:06,120
Speaker 10: that we have told them growing up, they're also realizing

1648
01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:08,480
Speaker 10: that I am figuring it out with them as well.

1649
01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:11,080
Speaker 10: And I don't know that it's a lot different in ministry,

1650
01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:13,080
Speaker 10: like this is where the goal is? I think we

1651
01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:15,880
Speaker 10: all know where the goal is, but I'm still working

1652
01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:17,759
Speaker 10: it out too. I think where people get in trouble

1653
01:08:18,040 --> 01:08:20,040
Speaker 10: is that they're not actually doing the work, Like I'm

1654
01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:21,720
Speaker 10: telling you that this is the goal, and I'm doing

1655
01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:24,280
Speaker 10: the exact opposite of it, Which is why I've tried

1656
01:08:24,320 --> 01:08:27,200
Speaker 10: to be really intentional about being authentic. Like I'm going

1657
01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:29,560
Speaker 10: through depression, I'm going through an anxiety. This is what

1658
01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:30,240
Speaker 10: I'm learning in.

1659
01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:30,920
Speaker 16: The midst of that.

1660
01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:33,280
Speaker 10: Because it doesn't serve me for me to come off

1661
01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:35,200
Speaker 10: as your god when we all need the same one.

1662
01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:37,960
Speaker 10: So I try to really make sure that I'm not

1663
01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:40,519
Speaker 10: on a pedestal. I try to kick the pedestal down.

1664
01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:42,400
Speaker 2: Like you see a preacher. A preacher will be preaching,

1665
01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:44,439
Speaker 2: right and then he's cheating on his wife, or a

1666
01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:47,600
Speaker 2: preacher'll be preaching and that he's hitting his wife, you

1667
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:49,280
Speaker 2: know what I mean. So when you see that, it's

1668
01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:52,720
Speaker 2: kind of difficult to uphold a preacher, and you'll be like,

1669
01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:54,600
Speaker 2: are we just playing this game or or do you

1670
01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:56,640
Speaker 2: really feel that way and really made a mistake You're

1671
01:08:56,760 --> 01:08:57,759
Speaker 2: see I'm saying, Well.

1672
01:08:57,680 --> 01:09:00,639
Speaker 10: I mean, I can't judge someone's heart, I can't judge

1673
01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:03,760
Speaker 10: their experiences, so I'm a little hesitant to really make

1674
01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:05,560
Speaker 10: a judgment on situations.

1675
01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:06,920
Speaker 3: Say anybody in particular.

1676
01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:08,800
Speaker 16: People.

1677
01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:11,720
Speaker 10: I don't know anyone either who's going through this, but

1678
01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:14,920
Speaker 10: I think people infer a lot. But I will say this, like,

1679
01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:18,600
Speaker 10: preachers are human. So if you are who you are,

1680
01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:20,559
Speaker 10: and you can cheat on your wife, and a preacher

1681
01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:22,800
Speaker 10: can cheat on his wife, like he's a man too,

1682
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:25,280
Speaker 10: she's a woman too. And so you guys are still

1683
01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:27,640
Speaker 10: going to have the same areas of temptation that you

1684
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:30,680
Speaker 10: need to overcome. I think your response to that, like,

1685
01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:33,519
Speaker 10: what is my response? How do I grow from here?

1686
01:09:33,640 --> 01:09:35,880
Speaker 10: How do I create boundaries? Do I need to sit down?

1687
01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:36,760
Speaker 10: Do I need to heal?

1688
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:36,920
Speaker 7: Like?

1689
01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:40,040
Speaker 10: I think how you handle your humanity in the face

1690
01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:43,479
Speaker 10: of this divine call is what's most important. I am

1691
01:09:43,560 --> 01:09:46,920
Speaker 10: careful that pastors don't have a license to do whatever

1692
01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:49,479
Speaker 10: they want to because of the power they hold. I

1693
01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:51,439
Speaker 10: think that you can be human, but all of us

1694
01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:53,880
Speaker 10: need to be try and stretching, growing to be more

1695
01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:56,479
Speaker 10: like Jesus or we are up here playing. I'm not

1696
01:09:56,560 --> 01:09:58,800
Speaker 10: asking you to be perfect. I'm asking you to really

1697
01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:00,160
Speaker 10: be on this walk for real.

1698
01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:02,120
Speaker 3: Who's this white path that you talking about?

1699
01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:06,120
Speaker 16: And listen to the breakfast Club?

1700
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:08,840
Speaker 3: All right?

1701
01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:11,240
Speaker 2: We got more with Sarah Jake Robins when we come back,

1702
01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:13,280
Speaker 2: So don't move. It's the Breakfast Club. Good Morning Morning,

1703
01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:16,800
Speaker 2: Everybody's tej Envy, Jess, Hilariy Charlamage the God.

1704
01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:19,080
Speaker 3: We are the Breakfast Club. We still have Sarah Jake's

1705
01:10:19,120 --> 01:10:21,400
Speaker 3: Robinson the building. Yes, I want it.

1706
01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:23,280
Speaker 8: Because you're a mother of six.

1707
01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:26,760
Speaker 14: Yeah, and you're busy, extremely busy with your podcast and

1708
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:28,439
Speaker 14: then writing a book and then traveling.

1709
01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:29,680
Speaker 3: How do you balance that?

1710
01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:30,280
Speaker 11: Like mother?

1711
01:10:30,360 --> 01:10:32,320
Speaker 8: And I know you said your children are going into

1712
01:10:32,360 --> 01:10:33,439
Speaker 8: a dulthood, but how.

1713
01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:34,120
Speaker 3: Do you balance that?

1714
01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:34,720
Speaker 16: Well?

1715
01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:37,040
Speaker 10: Yeah, and I feel for you because you got a

1716
01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:40,639
Speaker 10: lot going on. I think it's the message of this book.

1717
01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:43,640
Speaker 10: I think it's really allowing myself to like flow in

1718
01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:44,920
Speaker 10: a different definition of.

1719
01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:47,240
Speaker 16: Power based off of each of those roles.

1720
01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:49,120
Speaker 10: Because as much as I want to bring the same

1721
01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:52,000
Speaker 10: intensity to everything I do, if I do that, I

1722
01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:54,560
Speaker 10: may end up damaging my children because I'm talking to

1723
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:57,439
Speaker 10: them like a business partner. And so really defining for

1724
01:10:57,600 --> 01:11:00,240
Speaker 10: myself what does it mean to be powerful in these

1725
01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:03,280
Speaker 10: specific roles and how much capacity do I have to

1726
01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:06,400
Speaker 10: show up in that space asking for help, you know,

1727
01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:10,240
Speaker 10: Changing and modifying my life to really fit my priorities

1728
01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:12,960
Speaker 10: has done a lot, and then also just making sure

1729
01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:14,120
Speaker 10: my kids know like I'm tired.

1730
01:11:14,200 --> 01:11:16,840
Speaker 16: So my daughter is eight. She was devastated when I

1731
01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:19,400
Speaker 16: left yesterday. She was like, please don't leave me.

1732
01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:19,760
Speaker 3: Please.

1733
01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:22,320
Speaker 10: Literally She's like, can you please come home? And I'm like,

1734
01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:24,880
Speaker 10: I just need this one week to get this book

1735
01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:27,040
Speaker 10: in as many hands as possible and their mommy will

1736
01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:29,200
Speaker 10: be home. But I'm packing to her, like, you know

1737
01:11:29,360 --> 01:11:31,960
Speaker 10: you do this, well, I'm doing this, so she understands this.

1738
01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:36,000
Speaker 10: Sometimes absence does not mean that I don't care, and

1739
01:11:36,720 --> 01:11:39,120
Speaker 10: it's a balancing walk, especially I think if you have

1740
01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:42,080
Speaker 10: mom guilt like I do sometimes. But I also want

1741
01:11:42,120 --> 01:11:44,080
Speaker 10: her to see a woman walking in her purpose and

1742
01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:46,439
Speaker 10: being excited about it and changing lives. So I share

1743
01:11:46,479 --> 01:11:48,760
Speaker 10: testimonies with her too. I'm like, let's sit down and

1744
01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:51,080
Speaker 10: read these comments from this weekend. Thank you for being

1745
01:11:51,120 --> 01:11:52,680
Speaker 10: a part of this. So she feels a part of

1746
01:11:52,720 --> 01:11:53,200
Speaker 10: it as well.

1747
01:11:53,360 --> 01:11:56,479
Speaker 14: Okay, because mama son is twelve now, but I miss

1748
01:11:56,760 --> 01:11:59,639
Speaker 14: a lot of him being going from grade to grade.

1749
01:11:59,680 --> 01:12:00,599
Speaker 7: You know my mom.

1750
01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:03,160
Speaker 14: Between my mom and his dad, that's who has Yeah,

1751
01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:04,960
Speaker 14: I was touring a lot before I actually got to

1752
01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:09,560
Speaker 14: do this, and I just feel so guilty a lot sometimes,

1753
01:12:09,680 --> 01:12:11,400
Speaker 14: like oh, and now I have this new baby, and

1754
01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:13,519
Speaker 14: I'm like, I'm bringing him up to Jersey with me,

1755
01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:15,200
Speaker 14: and he wants to grow up in the house with

1756
01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:17,720
Speaker 14: the baby instead of me being in Jersey with the

1757
01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:20,240
Speaker 14: new baby with you know, and then him still being

1758
01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:23,760
Speaker 14: with my mother, Like, and I don't want to repeat that, right,

1759
01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:24,960
Speaker 14: I don't want to do that again.

1760
01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:26,120
Speaker 16: So I feel guilty.

1761
01:12:26,160 --> 01:12:28,439
Speaker 10: So I had my son at fourteen, and I think

1762
01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:30,679
Speaker 10: one of the things that makes me feel most guilty

1763
01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:33,720
Speaker 10: is that I know that I was growing up while

1764
01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:35,920
Speaker 10: he was growing up, and so the way that I'm

1765
01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:38,160
Speaker 10: able to be present even for my younger kids, I

1766
01:12:38,280 --> 01:12:40,880
Speaker 10: know that he didn't have that. I think one, I

1767
01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:42,400
Speaker 10: don't know if you have to deal with this, but

1768
01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:46,160
Speaker 10: I had to really forgive myself for what I didn't

1769
01:12:46,240 --> 01:12:48,840
Speaker 10: know when I was raising you. Yeah, you know, I

1770
01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:51,080
Speaker 10: just I didn't know. I did the best that I

1771
01:12:51,160 --> 01:12:54,000
Speaker 10: could and to trust that I still have opportunity. If

1772
01:12:54,040 --> 01:12:57,800
Speaker 10: you think about adult children who were wounded from relationships

1773
01:12:57,840 --> 01:12:59,600
Speaker 10: that didn't go well with their parents, there's still a

1774
01:12:59,640 --> 01:13:03,160
Speaker 10: little inside of them that wants their parents to show up,

1775
01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:06,040
Speaker 10: that wants to experience healing in that space, and so

1776
01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:08,280
Speaker 10: it reminds me too that I'm never out of time.

1777
01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:11,920
Speaker 10: So I'm constantly still reparenting him, even at twenty one

1778
01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:12,439
Speaker 10: years old.

1779
01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:15,439
Speaker 7: You know, in the clamp Down chapter you start by saying,

1780
01:13:15,439 --> 01:13:17,680
Speaker 7: if you're one of those people who know better and

1781
01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:20,000
Speaker 7: instantly do better, I'm probably gonna be the friend who

1782
01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:21,559
Speaker 7: you roll your eyes at constantly.

1783
01:13:21,880 --> 01:13:22,719
Speaker 3: Why are you that friend?

1784
01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:26,000
Speaker 10: Because things need to marinate form me, Like I don't

1785
01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:28,040
Speaker 10: just activate things like you can tell me like you

1786
01:13:28,160 --> 01:13:30,200
Speaker 10: need to be vegan, and I will. I'm gonna let

1787
01:13:30,280 --> 01:13:33,040
Speaker 10: that marinate for a year or two before that actually activates,

1788
01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:36,000
Speaker 10: because I don't do things just because someone says that

1789
01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:36,800
Speaker 10: I should do them.

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01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:38,360
Speaker 16: It has to be real. I have to have a

1791
01:13:38,439 --> 01:13:39,360
Speaker 16: conviction about it.

1792
01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:41,800
Speaker 10: But I will marinate it so I can figure out, like,

1793
01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:44,680
Speaker 10: how does this revelation actually fit within the context of

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01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:46,639
Speaker 10: my life. So in the back of the books, each

1795
01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:49,840
Speaker 10: book has something to marinate on, something to activate, and

1796
01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:50,600
Speaker 10: something to pray on.

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01:13:50,720 --> 01:13:53,360
Speaker 16: Because I know everyone moves into change differently.

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01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:56,240
Speaker 7: I love the marinating before activating, but I feel like

1799
01:13:56,320 --> 01:13:58,599
Speaker 7: that's probably how the majority of us moved.

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Speaker 3: Is there ever a time we shouldn't marin it? Before activating,

1801
01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:02,599
Speaker 3: like the spirit.

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01:14:02,439 --> 01:14:06,360
Speaker 16: Said, do it we just I mean, to each his own.

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01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:10,320
Speaker 10: I think if you feel I'm not into telling folks

1804
01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:11,760
Speaker 10: what they should do, you know what I mean? Like,

1805
01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:14,160
Speaker 10: I think, if you feel like there's a now on it,

1806
01:14:14,280 --> 01:14:16,160
Speaker 10: you should do that. You should move in it now.

1807
01:14:16,720 --> 01:14:18,479
Speaker 10: And a lot of times when we move in it now,

1808
01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:21,160
Speaker 10: we learned the Marior Nation lessons afterwards, you know.

1809
01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:25,000
Speaker 3: But yeah, what about the spirit though? So the spirit

1810
01:14:25,080 --> 01:14:27,320
Speaker 3: said move like the spirit always tells you to be

1811
01:14:27,560 --> 01:14:28,479
Speaker 3: patient in marinate.

1812
01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:30,280
Speaker 16: I'm in relationship.

1813
01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:32,240
Speaker 11: On that.

1814
01:14:32,360 --> 01:14:37,040
Speaker 16: I didn't have a choice and I didn't have a choice.

1815
01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:40,680
Speaker 10: I didn't have a choice that, oh Lord, But yeah, no, no,

1816
01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:43,680
Speaker 10: I was in the spirit in that I had a

1817
01:14:43,800 --> 01:14:46,760
Speaker 10: mission to accomplish and I didn't want anything to distract me.

1818
01:14:46,840 --> 01:14:49,080
Speaker 10: And my husband wasn't there, my parents weren't there. So

1819
01:14:49,160 --> 01:14:51,080
Speaker 10: it wasn't like I was gonna be able toss the microphone.

1820
01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:53,720
Speaker 10: I was the you know, senior leadership person that was

1821
01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:57,400
Speaker 10: present in that room, and so I had to take

1822
01:14:57,479 --> 01:14:57,760
Speaker 10: it off.

1823
01:14:58,040 --> 01:15:01,360
Speaker 16: I didn't love it. I didn't, but I stood up

1824
01:15:01,400 --> 01:15:01,680
Speaker 16: to it.

1825
01:15:02,280 --> 01:15:05,360
Speaker 10: And I think it was really interesting because I was

1826
01:15:05,479 --> 01:15:07,759
Speaker 10: going through something at that time where I was wondering

1827
01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:10,719
Speaker 10: could I be in Dallas a part of senior leadership,

1828
01:15:10,840 --> 01:15:13,160
Speaker 10: like with my past, with the way that I preached,

1829
01:15:13,240 --> 01:15:15,040
Speaker 10: with the way that I'm a little different than I

1830
01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:18,280
Speaker 10: guess traditional pastors, And I really did feel like God

1831
01:15:18,439 --> 01:15:20,720
Speaker 10: was trying to tell me, like, just be authentic, just

1832
01:15:20,800 --> 01:15:23,280
Speaker 10: trust yourself in that season of my life. And so

1833
01:15:23,439 --> 01:15:25,559
Speaker 10: that Sunday, when I'm sitting there with a wig cap

1834
01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:28,320
Speaker 10: on and then other women started taking their wigs off

1835
01:15:28,400 --> 01:15:31,080
Speaker 10: on the altar, I was like, you know what, I

1836
01:15:31,240 --> 01:15:34,439
Speaker 10: think this maybe God trying to tell me You're gonna

1837
01:15:34,439 --> 01:15:36,439
Speaker 10: have to show up as your full self in order.

1838
01:15:36,360 --> 01:15:37,040
Speaker 16: To get this done.

1839
01:15:37,120 --> 01:15:39,720
Speaker 10: And I know a lot of people made fun of it,

1840
01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:41,880
Speaker 10: but there were so many people who were like, seeing

1841
01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:46,000
Speaker 10: you stand there being courageous stepping into that moment helped

1842
01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:48,600
Speaker 10: me so much to just embrace who I am. And

1843
01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:50,719
Speaker 10: so I really feel like God took something that would

1844
01:15:50,760 --> 01:15:53,439
Speaker 10: have been very embarrassing and at least allowed there to

1845
01:15:53,560 --> 01:15:56,080
Speaker 10: be a buffer from the people who were moved by

1846
01:15:56,160 --> 01:15:56,920
Speaker 10: that moment.

1847
01:15:56,840 --> 01:15:58,599
Speaker 3: Well at least for me. I was like, that's why

1848
01:15:58,680 --> 01:16:02,080
Speaker 3: we rock with her. Wanting to be your true self

1849
01:16:02,160 --> 01:16:02,719
Speaker 3: at all times.

1850
01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:04,840
Speaker 10: Well, I mean like y'all know this isn't my hair,

1851
01:16:05,080 --> 01:16:07,320
Speaker 10: and like, no, it's not ideal, but it's not more

1852
01:16:07,360 --> 01:16:09,640
Speaker 10: important than what I'm here for. So like, I'm going

1853
01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:11,360
Speaker 10: to take it off and we're going to move on

1854
01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:13,599
Speaker 10: down the road. When I got back behind the platform

1855
01:16:13,640 --> 01:16:16,280
Speaker 10: that I was like, oh lord, I have desecrated the body.

1856
01:16:16,320 --> 01:16:20,240
Speaker 12: So there are bundles on the officer.

1857
01:16:20,400 --> 01:16:24,040
Speaker 16: I have desecrated this place. But yeah, it just turns

1858
01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:24,960
Speaker 16: out it wasn't that way.

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01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:28,280
Speaker 3: I love chapter sixteen to Know Your Harm? Oh yeah,

1860
01:16:28,439 --> 01:16:29,639
Speaker 3: what is knowing your heart?

1861
01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:30,240
Speaker 2: Uh?

1862
01:16:30,479 --> 01:16:33,559
Speaker 10: Well, I talk about the oath that doctors take where

1863
01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:35,400
Speaker 10: they say, you know that they'll do no harm, but

1864
01:16:35,479 --> 01:16:37,560
Speaker 10: they're also recognizing that they're practicing.

1865
01:16:38,160 --> 01:16:39,439
Speaker 16: And when we move in power.

1866
01:16:39,640 --> 01:16:41,439
Speaker 10: Part of the reason why so many of us don't

1867
01:16:41,479 --> 01:16:43,360
Speaker 10: move in power is that we're afraid that we won't

1868
01:16:43,400 --> 01:16:46,080
Speaker 10: do it perfectly or that will make mistakes. But if

1869
01:16:46,120 --> 01:16:48,200
Speaker 10: we can embrace the reality that I'm going to be

1870
01:16:48,320 --> 01:16:51,080
Speaker 10: powerful and humble, I'm going to be wrong, I'm going

1871
01:16:51,160 --> 01:16:52,960
Speaker 10: to have to apologize, I'm going to mess up. I

1872
01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:55,479
Speaker 10: may say things too sharply. Then that doesn't make me

1873
01:16:55,560 --> 01:16:57,479
Speaker 10: any less powerful. As a matter of fact, it makes

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01:16:57,520 --> 01:17:00,640
Speaker 10: me more powerful because I recognize that my position of

1875
01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:04,680
Speaker 10: power could disrupt my relationships sometimes, but I value these

1876
01:17:04,760 --> 01:17:07,479
Speaker 10: relationships enough to learn how to be powerful in a

1877
01:17:07,520 --> 01:17:09,240
Speaker 10: way that honors the spaces that I'm in.

1878
01:17:09,439 --> 01:17:12,599
Speaker 2: Next time, what's your thought on the way that church

1879
01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:14,680
Speaker 2: is now? Right, as a kid, you had to go

1880
01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:16,759
Speaker 2: to church every Sunday. You had to be in the building,

1881
01:17:16,840 --> 01:17:19,599
Speaker 2: you had to sit there, and if there was a baptism,

1882
01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:21,439
Speaker 2: you was gonna be there all day. Now a lot

1883
01:17:21,479 --> 01:17:23,800
Speaker 2: of people turn it on Sunday morning and it's a

1884
01:17:23,880 --> 01:17:25,800
Speaker 2: lot easier. So what are your thoughts on people not

1885
01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:28,040
Speaker 2: actually attending the institution of church?

1886
01:17:28,280 --> 01:17:33,200
Speaker 16: First of all, y'all not about to tie trip in me. No,

1887
01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:37,280
Speaker 16: you don't, No, you don't be very clear. Let me see.

1888
01:17:37,479 --> 01:17:41,080
Speaker 10: I mean, I think that the world is changing, and

1889
01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:44,000
Speaker 10: as the world changes, I think people are finding things

1890
01:17:44,040 --> 01:17:46,840
Speaker 10: that are more convenient for them. And I do think

1891
01:17:46,920 --> 01:17:49,599
Speaker 10: that you are able to have intimate encounters with God

1892
01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:51,519
Speaker 10: from this comfort of your own home, and I think

1893
01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:53,880
Speaker 10: is powerful that that's the way that things are being spread.

1894
01:17:54,200 --> 01:17:57,080
Speaker 10: I think it's like watching a football game at home,

1895
01:17:57,200 --> 01:17:58,960
Speaker 10: Like you can get high, you can be excited for

1896
01:17:59,080 --> 01:18:01,760
Speaker 10: your team, but there is something about being in the

1897
01:18:01,880 --> 01:18:05,639
Speaker 10: room with other people that makes you just take things

1898
01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:07,840
Speaker 10: over the edge. I was surprised that in a world

1899
01:18:07,880 --> 01:18:09,639
Speaker 10: where people are uncoming to church, ya, we have forty

1900
01:18:09,680 --> 01:18:12,360
Speaker 10: thousand women at the woman Evolve conference. Because I'm like,

1901
01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:14,280
Speaker 10: I don't know that this is a thing that people

1902
01:18:14,320 --> 01:18:16,960
Speaker 10: are going to really be into when they like virtual experiences,

1903
01:18:17,320 --> 01:18:20,600
Speaker 10: but there is something that happens in healthy community and

1904
01:18:20,720 --> 01:18:22,919
Speaker 10: connection that allows your faith.

1905
01:18:22,760 --> 01:18:23,840
Speaker 16: To really be strengthened.

1906
01:18:23,920 --> 01:18:26,639
Speaker 10: I've had people come into rooms and like they didn't

1907
01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:28,400
Speaker 10: really want to be there, somebody drugged them in there.

1908
01:18:28,439 --> 01:18:30,000
Speaker 10: They were going through a depression. They don't know why

1909
01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:32,439
Speaker 10: they were there, but just being in the space, sitting

1910
01:18:32,520 --> 01:18:34,599
Speaker 10: next to someone who was able to care for them

1911
01:18:34,720 --> 01:18:37,599
Speaker 10: and just being surrounded by worship lifted their spirits when

1912
01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:39,720
Speaker 10: they couldn't lift their own hands. And I don't think

1913
01:18:39,760 --> 01:18:41,320
Speaker 10: that there's any substitute for that.

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01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:44,040
Speaker 3: Would you also keep it tight, though, hour that's.

1915
01:18:44,920 --> 01:18:45,959
Speaker 16: Let us take something.

1916
01:18:47,320 --> 01:18:51,759
Speaker 10: I don't Yeah, it's finished, he said it. Everything everything

1917
01:18:51,840 --> 01:18:53,680
Speaker 10: he said has been said to me, and so now

1918
01:18:53,760 --> 01:18:54,960
Speaker 10: we can go home and have brunch.

1919
01:18:55,040 --> 01:18:55,240
Speaker 15: Yeah.

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01:18:55,560 --> 01:18:57,920
Speaker 10: I do think we have to honor people's time because

1921
01:18:57,960 --> 01:19:01,000
Speaker 10: people do have options, and so being really intentional about

1922
01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:02,880
Speaker 10: making sure people feel like I can go get out

1923
01:19:02,880 --> 01:19:04,000
Speaker 10: and have the rest of my day.

1924
01:19:04,280 --> 01:19:06,360
Speaker 16: It's part of what we should really lean into.

1925
01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:07,639
Speaker 1: I will keep a lot.

1926
01:19:07,720 --> 01:19:09,720
Speaker 2: We have more with Sarah Jakes Robins when we come

1927
01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:13,040
Speaker 2: back as the Breakfast Club. Good Morning, the Breakfast Club

1928
01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:19,479
Speaker 2: Morning everybody at ej NV, Jess Hilarious, Charlomage the God

1929
01:19:19,560 --> 01:19:20,599
Speaker 2: we are the Breakfast Club.

1930
01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:23,000
Speaker 3: We're still kicking it with Sarah Jakes, Roberts Charlamagne.

1931
01:19:23,320 --> 01:19:27,160
Speaker 7: Is the church whack? That's a question that you wanted

1932
01:19:27,160 --> 01:19:29,280
Speaker 7: the question. That's what I got smoked for. He said

1933
01:19:29,320 --> 01:19:31,400
Speaker 7: that he thinks the church has become whack.

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01:19:31,600 --> 01:19:33,880
Speaker 10: I heard in context what he said made a lot

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01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:36,839
Speaker 10: more sense, but I heard this sound bite was trash.

1936
01:19:38,160 --> 01:19:40,719
Speaker 10: I think that everyone has a different experience of church,

1937
01:19:41,280 --> 01:19:43,040
Speaker 10: and I think that there are some people who have

1938
01:19:43,160 --> 01:19:46,400
Speaker 10: probably had an experience that has disheartened them in that way.

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01:19:47,000 --> 01:19:48,679
Speaker 16: But I love the church.

1940
01:19:48,800 --> 01:19:51,639
Speaker 10: I mean, as much as I went through my own

1941
01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:55,320
Speaker 10: church hurt and trauma, the church was also really beautiful

1942
01:19:55,360 --> 01:19:58,240
Speaker 10: to me in times where I didn't have anywhere to

1943
01:19:58,320 --> 01:20:01,400
Speaker 10: go and I could sit in that presence and experience

1944
01:20:01,479 --> 01:20:04,400
Speaker 10: God and sometimes to really experience God. In church, you

1945
01:20:04,479 --> 01:20:07,559
Speaker 10: have to look past the people, and maybe that's why.

1946
01:20:07,720 --> 01:20:10,200
Speaker 10: Maybe it's not because maybe it keeps our focus on

1947
01:20:10,280 --> 01:20:11,200
Speaker 10: once you really matter.

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01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:14,200
Speaker 3: I love what you said to about know your harm.

1949
01:20:14,320 --> 01:20:16,840
Speaker 7: You said, deflecting from the way that you harm someone

1950
01:20:17,320 --> 01:20:20,479
Speaker 7: and highlighting the way that they harm instead is a

1951
01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:24,400
Speaker 7: sign of immaturity that keeps you from truly being helpful.

1952
01:20:25,080 --> 01:20:26,280
Speaker 3: Found on that well.

1953
01:20:27,120 --> 01:20:29,240
Speaker 10: A lot of times we will not embrace what we

1954
01:20:29,360 --> 01:20:31,680
Speaker 10: did to someone because of what they've done to us,

1955
01:20:32,320 --> 01:20:34,759
Speaker 10: and it keeps us from owning our stuff and growing

1956
01:20:35,240 --> 01:20:37,400
Speaker 10: and so being able to say, even though my teacher

1957
01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:39,880
Speaker 10: may not be perfect, like my teacher may have failed

1958
01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:42,360
Speaker 10: in chemistry, but they getting an A plus in this

1959
01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:45,080
Speaker 10: history class, that means that I need to at least

1960
01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:48,040
Speaker 10: be able to receive from them this opportunity to grow.

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01:20:48,200 --> 01:20:50,800
Speaker 10: And I feel like in relationships that's hard, especially if

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01:20:50,800 --> 01:20:53,519
Speaker 10: you're married, because when you're married, your person brings up

1963
01:20:53,600 --> 01:20:54,880
Speaker 10: something and you like, oh, but.

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01:20:55,080 --> 01:20:57,640
Speaker 16: Last week you did X, Y and Z, But what

1965
01:20:57,760 --> 01:20:58,439
Speaker 16: did you do today?

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01:20:58,640 --> 01:20:58,840
Speaker 11: You know?

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01:20:59,040 --> 01:21:01,240
Speaker 10: And how can you own that? And I think when

1968
01:21:01,320 --> 01:21:03,600
Speaker 10: we own our stuff, we give other people permission to

1969
01:21:03,720 --> 01:21:06,360
Speaker 10: do it as well. Sometimes we want to be the

1970
01:21:06,439 --> 01:21:08,680
Speaker 10: person who receives the apology, but not the one who

1971
01:21:08,720 --> 01:21:09,040
Speaker 10: gives it.

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01:21:09,160 --> 01:21:11,720
Speaker 16: But we have the lead in humility and vulnerability.

1973
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Speaker 3: You said that's how you went to a rate word initially, right.

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Speaker 16: Where oh no, yeah, no, yes, his stuff at him

1975
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Speaker 16: all the time.

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Speaker 10: Well, I don't know if I was throwing his stuff

1977
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Speaker 10: at him as much as I was maybe reciting it

1978
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Speaker 10: in my own head. But I think I will say

1979
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Speaker 10: that when I was single, after I went through my divorce,

1980
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Speaker 10: I finally got my life together with me and my

1981
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Speaker 10: two kids.

1982
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Speaker 16: You really could not.

1983
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Speaker 10: Tell me that I was not misindependent out here. So

1984
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Speaker 10: I really went into our relationship with a certain level

1985
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Speaker 10: of pride where I was like, at the end of

1986
01:21:40,840 --> 01:21:43,519
Speaker 10: the day, I got my stuff together. I finally love

1987
01:21:43,600 --> 01:21:45,560
Speaker 10: who I am and embracing it. And so when I

1988
01:21:45,680 --> 01:21:47,639
Speaker 10: was in relationship with him, and he would just ask

1989
01:21:47,760 --> 01:21:50,400
Speaker 10: me the simplest of questions. We weren't even fighting. It

1990
01:21:50,439 --> 01:21:52,960
Speaker 10: would just be like, why'd you do that? I didn't

1991
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Speaker 10: like that because I'm not used to having nobody questioned

1992
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Speaker 10: my decais and it was a simple, harmless question. And

1993
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Speaker 10: so I think that I I went into a defensive

1994
01:22:01,160 --> 01:22:03,559
Speaker 10: one because I wanted to protect my healing, and when

1995
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Speaker 10: you're in a marriage and you go into it trying

1996
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Speaker 10: to protect yourself and make sure that you don't get

1997
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Speaker 10: done the way that you were.

1998
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Speaker 16: Done in the past.

1999
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Speaker 10: I don't know that it's fair for creating intimacy, and

2000
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Speaker 10: so I had to do a lot of work of

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01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:18,479
Speaker 10: receiving his perspective and finding it valuable so that I

2002
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Speaker 10: could become better, and I have become better as a

2003
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Speaker 10: result of it.

2004
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Speaker 3: What does power look like in a relationship?

2005
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Speaker 10: Those dynamics are always changing. I think especially now that

2006
01:22:28,520 --> 01:22:33,600
Speaker 10: we see, you know, hyper masculinity is beginning to be interrogated.

2007
01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:36,840
Speaker 10: We're seeing women move into positions where sometimes they're the

2008
01:22:36,920 --> 01:22:40,120
Speaker 10: breadwinners and men are at home being more comfortable taking

2009
01:22:40,120 --> 01:22:43,080
Speaker 10: care of the family. I think power in a relationship

2010
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Speaker 10: is recognizing the strengths of what your person carries and

2011
01:22:47,280 --> 01:22:50,519
Speaker 10: how that strength builds you in your area of weakness,

2012
01:22:50,880 --> 01:22:53,879
Speaker 10: without feeling like they have to be strong or stronger

2013
01:22:54,000 --> 01:22:56,080
Speaker 10: in the same area that you're strong. I think it's

2014
01:22:56,200 --> 01:23:00,360
Speaker 10: like this symbiotic relationship, this flow where you're able to

2015
01:23:00,400 --> 01:23:02,760
Speaker 10: build a life together because both of you bring something

2016
01:23:02,840 --> 01:23:05,559
Speaker 10: different to the table, and to honor that, to really

2017
01:23:05,680 --> 01:23:07,120
Speaker 10: honor it is important.

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Speaker 3: You said something else in the book.

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01:23:08,560 --> 01:23:10,280
Speaker 7: You said when you are unable to connect the dots

2020
01:23:10,360 --> 01:23:13,040
Speaker 7: between who you since you could become and who you

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01:23:13,120 --> 01:23:16,120
Speaker 7: presently are, it doesn't just cause internal frustration. It renders

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01:23:16,160 --> 01:23:18,439
Speaker 7: you powerless. And one of the examples you use is

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01:23:18,479 --> 01:23:22,560
Speaker 7: you don't defend yourself when misunderstood. Yeah, and to me,

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01:23:22,760 --> 01:23:26,479
Speaker 7: not feeling to need to explain yourself is powerful.

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01:23:26,720 --> 01:23:30,200
Speaker 10: Well, I think not explaining yourself and not defending yourself,

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01:23:30,320 --> 01:23:32,560
Speaker 10: and I think it's different because you have a platform

2027
01:23:32,880 --> 01:23:35,320
Speaker 10: and so you can't defend yourself twenty four to seven.

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01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:39,000
Speaker 10: But when we're in intimate relationships with someone and they

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01:23:39,160 --> 01:23:42,280
Speaker 10: have an expectation of who we are or this idea

2030
01:23:42,320 --> 01:23:44,640
Speaker 10: of who we are, and we don't change that, we

2031
01:23:44,800 --> 01:23:47,240
Speaker 10: allow them to believe it, we do end up powerless

2032
01:23:47,280 --> 01:23:49,960
Speaker 10: because I'm not even bringing the full version of who

2033
01:23:50,040 --> 01:23:53,520
Speaker 10: I am into this friendship, into this parent child dynamic,

2034
01:23:53,840 --> 01:23:56,160
Speaker 10: And you end up robbing yourself of the ability to

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01:23:56,280 --> 01:23:58,479
Speaker 10: really show up in your power and allow them to

2036
01:23:58,520 --> 01:24:01,000
Speaker 10: believe something about you that's not true. And so it

2037
01:24:01,160 --> 01:24:03,360
Speaker 10: is powerful to be like you got me messed up,

2038
01:24:03,479 --> 01:24:05,559
Speaker 10: Like that's not what I believe, that's not what I think,

2039
01:24:05,800 --> 01:24:07,320
Speaker 10: and if we're going to walk this thing, guy, I

2040
01:24:07,439 --> 01:24:09,240
Speaker 10: want you to know who I am for real, so

2041
01:24:09,400 --> 01:24:11,040
Speaker 10: that you can know what to expect from me.

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Speaker 3: Okay, guys, you talk about intimate relationship.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, yeah, it's hard. It's hard for me.

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Speaker 8: He's doing is telling them the book they're not going

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01:24:23,200 --> 01:24:23,400
Speaker 8: to buy.

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01:24:23,400 --> 01:24:25,479
Speaker 14: If you asking all the questions about the book, making

2047
01:24:25,560 --> 01:24:27,120
Speaker 14: her basically recite.

2048
01:24:26,800 --> 01:24:29,400
Speaker 3: The book, you should pray to your bob looks like hers,

2049
01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:30,480
Speaker 3: That's what you should.

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01:24:30,760 --> 01:24:31,599
Speaker 2: Now, why is my bob?

2051
01:24:36,840 --> 01:24:37,320
Speaker 9: He can get here?

2052
01:24:37,320 --> 01:24:44,960
Speaker 1: And when she pulled the wig off, I.

2053
01:24:47,640 --> 01:24:49,240
Speaker 8: Would the dressing world.

2054
01:24:50,680 --> 01:24:51,559
Speaker 9: Questions them.

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01:24:51,600 --> 01:24:57,760
Speaker 3: So you forced me to see, Well, what message you

2056
01:24:57,840 --> 01:24:58,760
Speaker 3: hoping people get from the book?

2057
01:24:59,000 --> 01:24:59,200
Speaker 2: Oh?

2058
01:24:59,560 --> 01:25:02,040
Speaker 10: The mess is that I am hoping people get from

2059
01:25:02,080 --> 01:25:05,760
Speaker 10: the book is that power is a flow and that

2060
01:25:06,080 --> 01:25:09,080
Speaker 10: power that you have experienced in your past is still

2061
01:25:09,160 --> 01:25:11,800
Speaker 10: present in your future. It must, it just might be

2062
01:25:11,920 --> 01:25:14,640
Speaker 10: taking on a different form. So to be open to

2063
01:25:14,800 --> 01:25:17,920
Speaker 10: how power is being redefined in your present.

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Speaker 3: Us to prayer.

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Speaker 10: Thank you God for this opportunity, for this platform, Thank

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01:25:25,640 --> 01:25:28,519
Speaker 10: you for using these voices at this stage in their life.

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Speaker 10: And I'd usually pray for the listeners, but God, I

2068
01:25:31,360 --> 01:25:34,400
Speaker 10: want to pray for them, that you would stir up

2069
01:25:34,400 --> 01:25:36,320
Speaker 10: the gift of God that's on the inside of them,

2070
01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:39,479
Speaker 10: that you would highlight the areas of their life where

2071
01:25:39,520 --> 01:25:43,000
Speaker 10: you want them to experience more of your power and

2072
01:25:43,200 --> 01:25:46,479
Speaker 10: to show them the power that you've placed inside of them.

2073
01:25:46,880 --> 01:25:50,000
Speaker 10: I thank you God for giving them wisdom strategy, not

2074
01:25:50,240 --> 01:25:53,200
Speaker 10: just for their careers, but for their family, their emotional

2075
01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:55,639
Speaker 10: health and wellness. And God, I pray that you would

2076
01:25:55,680 --> 01:25:58,200
Speaker 10: continue to show them your life that they may lean

2077
01:25:58,280 --> 01:25:59,680
Speaker 10: into it in Jesus' name.

2078
01:26:00,160 --> 01:26:00,519
Speaker 3: That's right.

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01:26:00,600 --> 01:26:02,800
Speaker 7: Make sure you go get Sarah Jake roberts new book

2080
01:26:02,880 --> 01:26:05,840
Speaker 7: Power Moves Ignite your Confidence to become a force, and

2081
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Speaker 7: subscribe to her podcast, The Woman of All Podcasts on

2082
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Speaker 7: the Black effect Ieheart Radio podcast Network.

2083
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Speaker 3: That's right.

2084
01:26:11,720 --> 01:26:13,880
Speaker 7: We appreciate you for coming, Miss Roberts, and you need

2085
01:26:13,920 --> 01:26:16,200
Speaker 7: to come more often for people who think church is whack,

2086
01:26:16,400 --> 01:26:18,519
Speaker 7: because you're the person I feel like is going to

2087
01:26:18,560 --> 01:26:21,960
Speaker 7: bridge the gap between you know, church in this new generation.

2088
01:26:22,120 --> 01:26:23,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, I really feel that way.

2089
01:26:23,600 --> 01:26:24,519
Speaker 16: Oh so thank you.

2090
01:26:24,720 --> 01:26:27,519
Speaker 10: That's that's a tremendous honor a lot of responsibility. But

2091
01:26:28,080 --> 01:26:30,799
Speaker 10: I'm committed to, you know, holding down that square.

2092
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Speaker 3: That's right, all right, Sarah Jakes Roberts. It's the Breakfast Club.

2093
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Speaker 2: Good morning warning everybody at DJ and V Jess Hilari

2094
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Speaker 2: charlamage to God.

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Speaker 3: We are the Breakfast Club. All right, Well, you got

2096
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Speaker 3: a positive note, positive note.

2097
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Speaker 7: Stop letting your potential go to waste because you don't

2098
01:26:44,600 --> 01:26:48,200
Speaker 7: feel confident. Already enough people with half your talent on

2099
01:26:48,360 --> 01:26:52,040
Speaker 7: making serious waves while you're still waiting to feel ready.

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Speaker 7: And I want to tell you something that Bishop Tdjkes

2101
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Speaker 7: told me one time. Even if you don't think you're worthy,

2102
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Speaker 7: even if you don't think you're a ready, God knows

2103
01:26:59,200 --> 01:27:01,360
Speaker 7: your worthy and God knows you're already, get on it.

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Speaker 7: It's the Breakfast Club.

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Speaker 1: Breakfast Club, bitches, y'all finished or y'all done,