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Speaker 1: Hi everyone, I'm Rachel Zoe and you're listening to Climbing

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Speaker 1: in Heels for your weekly dose of glamour inspiration and

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Speaker 1: of course fun. Okay, So here we are at episode

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Speaker 1: six of season one of The Rachel Zoe Project. This

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Speaker 1: episode is definitely one of the more iconic episodes that

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Speaker 1: consists of Oscar Sunday and a styling kit full meltdown.

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Speaker 1: It was pretty dramatic, and I actually remember how dramatic

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Speaker 1: it was in real life.

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Speaker 2: As an executive producer.

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Speaker 1: Of the show, I was very excited to take the

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Speaker 1: audience behind the scenes of how a stylist truly preps

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Speaker 1: for the oscars, but juggling clients in real life while

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Speaker 1: shooting the show was incredibly challenging. So here to dive

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Speaker 1: into the season finale with me is my producer Mary

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Speaker 1: Elizabeth jump right in.

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Speaker 3: Oh hi, oh hey. I only have one thing to say, Rachel.

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Speaker 3: It's Brad or I Brad or I's.

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Speaker 1: Not proper because you're a little bit more grammatically correct

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Speaker 1: than me.

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Speaker 3: I think it.

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Speaker 2: I think it is correct. It sounds weird.

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Speaker 1: Brad me or Brad, Yeah, Like choose me or Brad, Brad,

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Speaker 1: Brad or me?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Me or Brad Brad or eye. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It sounds for some reason, it sounds wrong, but it

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Speaker 1: might be totally right.

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Speaker 3: It might be it might be totally right. Regardless it

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Speaker 3: is in the Bravo Universe Forever. Episode six season one

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Speaker 3: is truly one of the more iconic I would say,

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Speaker 3: talked about watched. Anytime people come up to you and

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Speaker 3: they're true Rachel z Oe Project fans, they will reference

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Speaker 3: a styling kit or make a joke about a styling kit. Yes, truth,

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Speaker 3: I think it is. Truly, It's definitely the standout episode

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Speaker 3: of season one for many reasons that we're going to

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Speaker 3: get into.

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Speaker 1: So do you think there was any part of me

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Speaker 1: that ever wanted to brush my hair? We can we

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Speaker 1: just be like superficial, vein all the things because looking

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Speaker 1: at the entire show, and I'm hoping as we unravel

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Speaker 2: But it's like, what is wrong with a hairbrush? Like?

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Speaker 2: What did I was?

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Speaker 1: I Like, did I burn all my hair brushes? Did

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Speaker 1: I refuse to use a hairbrush in the show.

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Speaker 3: I don't really know, but your hair texture seemed much

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Speaker 3: curlier to me then, yeah, than it is now maybe,

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Speaker 3: So I think it was just like annoying and time

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Speaker 3: fuck it, like just do it.

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Speaker 1: I also can tell, and I want to say for

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Speaker 1: the record that when I wear sunglasses in the show inside,

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Speaker 1: that is because I did not want to sit in

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Speaker 1: much that I was like, I don't have time to

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Speaker 3: You're not cooler than anyone. You're not hiding.

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Speaker 1: No, it's not that I'm It's not that I'm not

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Speaker 1: trying to block everyone out. I'm literally hiding my face

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Speaker 1: and the HD cameras, I mean, it's just brutal.

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Speaker 3: You wanted to hide. Yeah, Okay, So the episode kicks

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Speaker 3: the Oscar Deliverenta Runway show. You and Brad have a

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Speaker 3: He shows you other gowns that you also would like

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Speaker 3: to have for Gin. And so these basically your top

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Speaker 3: three Oscar Dili Rena gowns arrive at the studio and

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Speaker 2: I mean, well, full disclosure.

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Speaker 1: And Taylor, as much as she bitched about it, actually

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Speaker 3: Ull. Did you ever try on balance before clients, I

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Speaker 1: Maybe very rarely, very rarely, because I was very superstitious

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Speaker 2: It felt weird, it felt.

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Speaker 3: Its crossing a line.

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Speaker 1: I was such like a goody goody about that, Like

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I was so precious with my clients

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Speaker 2: I don't know why.

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Speaker 1: Yes, but Taylor sometimes would refuse, as you can imagine.

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Speaker 2: She's just the cutest.

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Speaker 3: Was it really heartwarm? I hope it was heartwarming for

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Speaker 3: I'm proud to be her first client. She says, I

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Speaker 2: Jen and the irony.

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Speaker 1: Now, fun fact is that we've been school parents together

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Speaker 1: And Jen truly is the nicest, most considerate, most real

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Speaker 2: And the thing about Jen and.

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Speaker 1: People always would like ask me, what's the thing we

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Speaker 1: And so it was this perfect marriage of like, Okay, Jen,

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Speaker 3: I love a little bribery.

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Speaker 1: Well yeah, and also I would come in and we'd

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Speaker 2: We still talk about him all the time.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, but we were this like kind of dream

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Speaker 2: She is correct about first.

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Speaker 1: She was the first time that I ever styled somebody.

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Speaker 3: to so you. There's a black gown, there is a

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Speaker 3: And you love that gown. You loved the tool.

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Speaker 1: You thought it was an Oscar made that for her, right,

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Speaker 3: You had an instinct that Jen was going to want

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Speaker 2: Not only was it a thing, but it was polarizing.

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Speaker 1: There was like it was free press to say whatever

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Speaker 3: You know, my comedians they were.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And ultimately the thieves took stuff from my jewelry

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Speaker 3: But honestly for business and for your oh god, yeah.

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Speaker 3: That's very bad. We were watching the Jewelry Story moment

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Speaker 2: Whatever?

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Speaker 3: And it's so it's still you. You were like dripping

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Speaker 3: putting stuff on, and you got home and you had

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00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,879
Speaker 3: like two rings on your hand, and I was like, Oh,

443
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,359
Speaker 3: let me text the girls and tell them I'm going

444
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,640
Speaker 3: to drive it back because you just love to load

445
00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:04,040
Speaker 3: yourself down more and more with jewelry. As you are

446
00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 3: pulling jewelry Taylor again, we see a scene of you

447
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:12,480
Speaker 3: and Brad. You're clearly in like the office part of

448
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:16,480
Speaker 3: your house slash studio. You guys are yucking it up.

449
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 3: You guys are like joking and teasing each other. The

450
00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 3: footage is cutting back to Taylor moving downs on rails,

451
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:29,119
Speaker 3: opening boxes, schlepping around in the studio. There's a scene

452
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:33,200
Speaker 3: where you and Brad are still chatting and it looks

453
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 3: like she's sort of lurking in the hallway and she

454
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:40,440
Speaker 3: overhears you guys whatever chumming.

455
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 2: It up, and she has.

456
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,040
Speaker 3: A little bit of a fit and storms out.

457
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:45,439
Speaker 2: Of the studio.

458
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 3: You have to call her. I think you have a

459
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:53,719
Speaker 3: scene in a car where she is very upset by

460
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:57,480
Speaker 3: the workflow of the studio. She feels like she's still

461
00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 3: doing all of the grunt work that Brad was hired

462
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,239
Speaker 3: to take off of her shoulders. She makes a lot

463
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 3: of comments about schlepping garment bags, which is like the job,

464
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 3: by the way, and again you make a plea. You're like,

465
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,880
Speaker 3: what do I need to do. I don't I can't

466
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,239
Speaker 3: have you unhappy. I can't have Brad unhappy right now.

467
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,120
Speaker 3: I need you guys to like work together, please, We've

468
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 3: got so much going on. It's the Oscars tomorrow, Like,

469
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,920
Speaker 3: just can we table this whatever? You throw out an idea,

470
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:27,160
Speaker 3: you say, maybe I'll hire another assistant, and she's like, great,

471
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:29,720
Speaker 3: that sounds like a solution. Obviously you're not going to

472
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:31,119
Speaker 3: hire someone overnight.

473
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:32,920
Speaker 2: Right of course, day before the Oscars.

474
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:37,400
Speaker 3: So again it seems like you are making sure everyone's

475
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,199
Speaker 3: happy so that you can just get through the freaking weekend.

476
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,440
Speaker 1: It's literally amazing. I was watching this and thinking, like

477
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 1: I was, like I worked for them.

478
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 2: I was like scared of them.

479
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, it appears that you were.

480
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 1: Well yeah, I mean, listen, Taylor is a mean girl, clearly.

481
00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't have to I mean that that

482
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 1: is so evident. Like the thing is with Taylor is

483
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 1: that she was good at the job.

484
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 2: She was good at the job. But I think she

485
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 2: was good at the job, if that makes sense.

486
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 3: But the persona is sort of her disposition.

487
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 2: Was just brutal, like it was just brutal, Like there

488
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,199
Speaker 2: was these light moments we would have.

489
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:24,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I would see a little bit of that.

490
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 3: You do see her joke and laugh all of that.

491
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 3: But you know, when you're making a television show, it's

492
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 3: like way more interesting to show her not doing that

493
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:34,119
Speaker 3: and to show her beating.

494
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 2: Truthfully, ninety percent of the time saw her Yeah, exactly.

495
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,639
Speaker 1: And I think because I was such a workaholic, I

496
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 1: just think I couldn't be bothered with it.

497
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 2: I was sort of like, that's who she is.

498
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 1: I can't like, I just need to get shit done

499
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,200
Speaker 1: and I need someone that can do it well, you

500
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,360
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And I think I was more

501
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 1: focused on that than anything else.

502
00:25:55,880 --> 00:26:00,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. And around the clients she was professional.

503
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 3: Okay, that's good. Yeah, And it just seemed like it

504
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 3: was so you basically get her back in your good grade,

505
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 3: into a good attitude for lack of a better word.

506
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 2: But I think, as she mentioned, like I didn't want

507
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 2: her to quit.

508
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 3: No, you couldn't. You couldn't have her quit like it

509
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 3: was it was too much. You have a meeting with

510
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 3: the wonderful a deer, the best, the best of the best,

511
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 3: and he is going through you guys are going through

512
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:34,159
Speaker 3: hair makeup inspiration for Jen for one of the Oscar dresses.

513
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,879
Speaker 3: It's so funny to see and hear A Deer because

514
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:42,160
Speaker 3: he still is so passionate and like creative and wonderful

515
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:47,120
Speaker 3: and lovely about how he approaches hair. And it's fun

516
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,120
Speaker 3: to see that, Like what you guys were talking about

517
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 3: is what goes down the carpet Jen, he does the

518
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 3: look that you guys are mentioning, like low, totally off

519
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:58,640
Speaker 3: to the side, fuzzy, like not perfect, but a little textured.

520
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 1: I think the thing I think the reason A Deer

521
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 1: and I were so connected and still are today.

522
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 2: Is because we definitely worked and probably the hardest. Yeah,

523
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 2: but I think we were.

524
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 1: Equally obsessed and in love with our craft. Like what

525
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:24,400
Speaker 1: we were doing was we both treated it as though

526
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 1: we were saving lives, but yet our love for the client,

527
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 1: especially Jen, was so real that we just were like

528
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 1: and Jen just did.

529
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 3: She was like, just do whatever you crazy people want,

530
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 3: right She literally she's like makes sure of you guys,

531
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 3: and she's like, lash, it's no last yeah exactly.

532
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,880
Speaker 2: Nude lip lip, very lip yeh, funniest. Yeah.

533
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 3: So it's wonderful to see a deer and how his

534
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 3: passion for hair and beauty and glamour is still just

535
00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:58,159
Speaker 3: as strong as it.

536
00:27:58,280 --> 00:27:59,959
Speaker 1: And I think he's probably the number one out there,

537
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,199
Speaker 1: yes point, if not major top five of like I mean,

538
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 1: there's no one he hasn't done or does, right, I mean,

539
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 1: And he's still you know, he's the sweetest, you know,

540
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 1: he just loves he just loves it.

541
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 2: He's he's an artist, you know.

542
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's the best.

543
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 2: And dances, dances at work, that's his thing.

544
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 3: He is like one of the most positive, optimistic people.

545
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:22,440
Speaker 3: He is, Yeah, he is.

546
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 1: And it's it's interesting because we we have our talks,

547
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 1: like we he keeps it real, you know. And his

548
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 1: husband is extraordinary. So love them, love love love them,

549
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 1: love him, love them.

550
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 3: Okay, So now we arrive at Oscar morning. There is

551
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 3: a scene that takes place where Brad and Taylor are

552
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 3: making their kits or setting up their kits for the day,

553
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 3: obviously planting the seed for what happens moments later. So

554
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 3: we talked about the kit in episode five, what it

555
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 3: is and how important it is to a stylists. We

556
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 3: see Brad making his Taylor makes a comment like he

557
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 3: still doesn't get how to pack it like he's She's

558
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 3: telling Joey he needs to put everything in a ziplock

559
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 3: back so you can get it. And Joey's like, well,

560
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 3: if you tell him to do that, he'll do it,

561
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 3: like he's not an idiot, sure, And she's like, why

562
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 3: do I have to tell him?

563
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 2: She just that was the thing.

564
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I think she just was like, I'm she

565
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 1: wasn't setting him up for success. But I think to

566
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 1: her point, it is common sense totally. She's not wrong, right,

567
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 1: you know, like right that is, she's not wrong. She

568
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 1: does remind me of myself, and it's hard for her

569
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 1: to delegate. It's hard to let go of like.

570
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 3: You're I don't know. I have a very hard time

571
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 3: being like you do that for me, right? So I

572
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 3: think that is also a little bit about her, like

573
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 3: I think she has a hard time stopping and explaining

574
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 3: because she just is like I do it, I know

575
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 3: how I do it, I do it efficiently, boom boom.

576
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 1: But she also didn't have any patience, so she wasn't

577
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 1: going to take any extra time.

578
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 3: And ultimately he still is in quote unquote training. I mean,

579
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,479
Speaker 3: he was technically new to Newish.

580
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 2: It was his first your.

581
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 1: Clients, Yes, but I think as they were going through

582
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 1: kits that would have been a given like that. It

583
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 1: was definitely his bad. She could have double check to

584
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 1: make sure. But I think, as I look at it,

585
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 1: it's sort of like, but why should she have done that?

586
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 1: Like why wouldn't if he if they have kids, why

587
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 1: wouldn't I need a kid?

588
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 3: Like That's literally what Taylor says.

589
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, and yeah, so I do. I do see that.

590
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 3: Don't understand what happened as we watched the show happened

591
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 3: for real. This was not something that was said.

592
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 1: No. So so here's the thing I want to say

593
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 1: about this episode. From what I was seeing, one hundred

594
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 1: percent of this episode was real, right. And the reason

595
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 1: I say that is because I very clearly remember and

596
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 1: that's why I have sunglasses on in the whole thing.

597
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 1: I remember saying too the producers, guys, I don't have

598
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 1: time to like stop and reshoot or stop and like

599
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 1: you tell me what to do. This is gonna be

600
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 1: like we're shooting because this is real.

601
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 2: This is not a drill.

602
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 1: This is really happening. So you're just gonna have to

603
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 1: follow and get what you can. But I don't I

604
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 1: can't walk down the hallway three times.

605
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 2: There's no starting.

606
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 3: If my mic hit something, it hits something.

607
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 2: Sorry.

608
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 1: If your audio is screwed up like we got it

609
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 1: is what it is. But this is not a drill,

610
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 1: and I have no time to stop and shoot.

611
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 2: So so this was, this was very real.

612
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: This was this was and I'm watching it and I

613
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 1: remember very clearly, like like I think I was crying

614
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 1: at some point, like I under my glasses, like I think.

615
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 2: I felt so stressed out.

616
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 3: I'm sure you were stressed out.

617
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 1: There's so much adrenaline, there's so little sleep, They're so

618
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 1: you know, it's weird because as a mother, I'm sort

619
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 1: of like, God, you're not fucking saving lives. But at

620
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 1: the same time, that was how I approached it because

621
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 1: the way that these people were were judged still are judged,

622
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 1: and putting them out there in front of the world,

623
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: and you're in charge of their entire image in that moment,

624
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 1: and their look and their jewelry and their face and

625
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: their you know, and the whole thing.

626
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 2: And if it's bad and they feel shit, you're.

627
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 1: Responsible for that. Like how they feel on the inside,

628
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 1: you can't help you try to help that. Obviously, as

629
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 1: best you can. But like, at the end of the day,

630
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 1: there's a responsibility that I carried that stylust carry that

631
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 1: hair and makeup carries that.

632
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 2: At the end of the day. If they don't feel amazing,

633
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 2: you didn't do your job. Yeah, And that was really

634
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 2: for me.

635
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 1: That was such a person's personal it's personal, and it

636
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 1: was a very personal heavy weight that I carried wherever

637
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 1: I went. And other stylists that I was friends with

638
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 1: didn't share that same feeling. They were like, eh, she

639
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 1: didn't like it.

640
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 2: I was like, how do you function? Yeah, how do

641
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 2: you function?

642
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: Now?

643
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 2: You know?

644
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're you're married to the game.

645
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 2: It's married to the game.

646
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 3: You're married to the game. Yeah. So here's the movements

647
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 3: as I understand them from rewatching it. It's Oscar morning,

648
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 3: It's Divide and Conquer.

649
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 2: I had five clients.

650
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 3: I think you had five clients, and two of those

651
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 3: were presenting. So two I believe, Cameron and Jen. I

652
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 3: know Jen was presenting and I think genuine Okay.

653
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 2: So you and I think to me, but we didn't

654
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 2: show her, We didn't.

655
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 3: We don't follow to me at all. My guess is

656
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 3: that Taylor was with to me because she made a

657
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 3: comment later. She makes a comment later, did anybody even

658
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 3: check on to me?

659
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 1: Oh?

660
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 3: I did I do everything right exactly? So I think

661
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:56,959
Speaker 3: she probably went into me. You went to Gen. Brad

662
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 3: is a packing up looks for Kate beckhamsale, seemingly just

663
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 3: to drop them off, and then he's going to meet

664
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 3: you at Gen. Right, he is come back to the

665
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 3: studio and he is going back to Kate because they

666
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,320
Speaker 3: he gets a phone call she needs more shoe options

667
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 3: and bag options. Was whatever was there isn't working. You

668
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 3: guys have a conversation. You tell him to go. You're

669
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 3: on your way to Jen thinking everything has been Everything

670
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 3: is there, The gowns are there, the shoes are there,

671
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,959
Speaker 3: the bag is there. You get to Gen and find

672
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 3: out when Brad dropped everything off, he didn't leave a kit.

673
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 2: So that was real.

674
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 3: That wasn't a Bravo storyline.

675
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 2: I was at Cameron's. I sent Cameron out.

676
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 3: Oh, sorry, you went to Cameron's. That's what it was.

677
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 2: Jen was good.

678
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 1: Jen was locked in and her dress that do your dress?

679
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 1: It was between that and another dress. By the way,

680
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 1: Remember she was just It was the most Cameron Diaz

681
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 1: thing you could ever do. Throw on a door, cature,

682
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 1: what a pair of heels and run out the door.

683
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 1: She barely jewelry, barely make up.

684
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 3: I mean she looks like a little surfer girl, so beautiful,

685
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:16,399
Speaker 3: literally surfur contur. Do you remember were there cameras when

686
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 3: you got to Cameron or did you not shoot Cameron?

687
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 1: Oh?

688
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,320
Speaker 3: No, you did not shoot Cameron. Okay, because I was

689
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 3: curious from a viewer if like you had that footage

690
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 3: and then as EP you guys decided we don't want

691
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 3: to show it.

692
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,839
Speaker 2: It probably showed me like in the car, but I didn't.

693
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 2: Cameron was not aware of any of it. Got it now?

694
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: So you get Cameron's very very private. There are certain

695
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: clients throughout the season you'll see that, some are very

696
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 1: happy to be on. And I don't think it's that

697
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 1: she didn't. I'm not even sure that I asked. I

698
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 1: think I just I know that Cameron's are very.

699
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 3: It's very priv Yes, did Cameron realize that you were

700
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 3: sort of floundering when you got there, Like you were like,

701
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 3: oh my god, there's only two pairs of shoes, there's

702
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 3: only one bag, there's no case. Do you know what?

703
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 1: It was one of the worst moments of her it

704
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 1: really really Yeah, because I think the expectation that my

705
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 1: clients had of me was I was always the sort

706
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 1: of most over prepared person, Like I had six hundred

707
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 1: things for their one sure, you know, probably almost to

708
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: a detriment.

709
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 2: Sometimes I like, you know.

710
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: I like overtook their their rooms, you know, with things.

711
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 1: But but I never didn't have what I needed. Yeah,

712
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: And I remember the shoes that she chose, I believe

713
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 1: were too big. They were like a half sized big.

714
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:36,360
Speaker 1: And I needed insuls. I needed insuls, And I remember

715
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:40,360
Speaker 1: needing I think tops to I just remembered there was

716
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:44,839
Speaker 1: kit things that were needed in the final moment. Yes,

717
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 1: you know, because Cameron wasn't the kind of person that

718
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: like sat for ten hours to get ready. She was

719
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 1: like sometimes she even did her own makeup right, you know,

720
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 1: And and so it was always a I better have

721
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 1: everything like ready for the exit, you know, and not

722
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 1: having it in those moments for someone who is very

723
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 1: low maintenance and doesn't ask a lot is like to

724
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 1: not have what you need, you know. I used to say,

725
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 1: it's like it's like a doctor not having what they

726
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,720
Speaker 1: need for the diagnosis. It's like it's like they forgot

727
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 1: their stethoscope, but like not having topstick or pins or like,

728
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 1: that's the job. That is literally the job, you know,

729
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: So I'm sure it's embarrassing to you. It's not embarrassing.

730
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 1: It's horrifying. And I was by myself and like.

731
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 3: And then Joey saves the day? Was that? And that's true?

732
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:37,479
Speaker 2: That is true.

733
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 3: You remember calling Joey.

734
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 1: Because at the studio waiting to watch the show because

735
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 1: we always did that together.

736
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I nine to one won him and I

737
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 2: was like, oh my god, you've got to drive over here.

738
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 3: Saved the day for real. So, needless to say, you

739
00:37:56,000 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 3: all meet back at the studio. You've called Taylor to

740
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,320
Speaker 3: let her know that it was a disaster at Cameron's,

741
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,479
Speaker 3: that shit went bad. You didn't have what you needed.

742
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 3: You know. You're commiserating with Joey and Roger and Taylor,

743
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 3: and then Brad calls Taylor and says he's coming back

744
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 3: to the studio. You have obviously called Brad. It's not

745
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 3: on the show, right, but you've obviously called Brad and

746
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 3: sort of read him the right act.

747
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 2: Remember that I think they show that they think what's

748
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:27,360
Speaker 2: on it.

749
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 3: They don't show you guys talking on the phone about that.

750
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 3: They show you telling Taylor it was a disaster. You

751
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 3: didn't have what you needed, you didn't have any.

752
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 1: So maybe I didn't because maybe I didn't because you

753
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 1: know me, I'm not confrontational. I don't like disciplining and

754
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 1: I don't I don't like reprimanding people. And so I

755
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 1: called Taylor to be like, what the fuck?

756
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, what planet to something like that happened?

757
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, so she hit the fan. Brad comes back.

758
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 3: He pulls you aside into one of the room bedrooms,

759
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 3: and he's very emotional and he's like, I can't.

760
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 2: Do I can't do this.

761
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 3: It's too high pressure. I'm you know, he's obviously regretful

762
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 3: of the situation. You're trying to because he's so emotional,

763
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,919
Speaker 3: You're trying to calm him down, knowing you you don't

764
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,879
Speaker 3: want anybody to be that upset about anything. You're true

765
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 3: pleading with him. You're like, this is closed, it's not

766
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:34,439
Speaker 3: saving lives, it's okay. Everyone makes mistakes. You then say

767
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 3: Taylor once made a mistake when we were on a

768
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 3: shoote in Prague, and then sure, and by the way,

769
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 3: it was with Brad Pitt.

770
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 2: That was not a fun mistake.

771
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 3: No, that's not a good mistake either. Then she comes

772
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 3: barreling in the room and says, don't throw me on, like,

773
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 3: don't use me as an example, and I don't make

774
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 3: mistakes and all that that happened in real life. So

775
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 3: when you're shooting something like that and you can see

776
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 3: her lurking in the hallway, which was really happening, and

777
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 3: I'm sure a camera just followed her right in.

778
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 2: You know what it was like. It was like watching

779
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,399
Speaker 2: like lions, like pacing.

780
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 3: At ready to jump in. She was, yeah, so that's

781
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 3: all legit. It's not like was like cut, come back

782
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 3: in the room, tailor.

783
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 2: I remember, we're like, we're not actors. No, So no,

784
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 2: that was as real as it gets.

785
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 1: And I remember I remember after that whole thing production

786
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 1: being like, well that was fucking amazing, and I was

787
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,320
Speaker 1: like what happened? Like I literally because I was so

788
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 1: in it, and I was so I think beaten down

789
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 1: at that point.

790
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,839
Speaker 3: So she does come in. That's all real. She tells

791
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 3: you how it is. She says, Brad is not qualified

792
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,840
Speaker 3: to do this job. It's common sense, he should know better.

793
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:54,359
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah.

794
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 3: Brad gets very upset. He says, I'm gonna leave. He leaves,

795
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 3: you guys are all Roger gets food for everybody because

796
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 3: it's lovely, classic Roger, and you get a text message

797
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 3: from Brad saying like thanks, but this I can't work.

798
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,240
Speaker 2: In an abusive environment.

799
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,800
Speaker 3: Which sparks Taylor to say, like, is he fucking joking

800
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 3: it's him?

801
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 1: Or I.

802
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 3: Did you in real time, in real life, to the

803
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:26,800
Speaker 3: best of your memory, did you really feel like that

804
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,360
Speaker 3: was it? Like this was like there there was not

805
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:32,360
Speaker 3: going to be a coming back of this. No, I I.

806
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 2: Knew that if I in that moment, she was dead

807
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 2: fucking serious.

808
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 1: She was like, I'm so out of here because he's

809
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 1: so far up your ass, he's stroking you. Yeah, he's

810
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 1: blah blah blah and you don't see it and blah

811
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 1: blah blah. And you know, they were just polar opposites

812
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 1: in every possible way.

813
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 3: Sure, so you were like one of them is going

814
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 3: to leave, Like one hundred this isn't this can continue

815
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 3: the way it is now?

816
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 2: Correct, correct and listen, at the end of the day,

817
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 2: Taylor was a bully.

818
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 1: Like at the end of the day, she really in

819
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 1: those moments, right, bullet as I'm watching it.

820
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 2: She was bullying me. I was literally scared of her.

821
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 3: And it is so true about what you were what

822
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 3: you were trying to say to Brad about like everybody

823
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 3: makes mistakes before she comes in and correct angry at everybody.

824
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 3: What you're saying about mistakes is so true. It's like,

825
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 3: you don't get better at anything without fucking up.

826
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 1: You have to suck up or you'll never know. Yeah,

827
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 1: you have, you know, we all I've made countless mistakes.

828
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 3: Everybody makes mistake.

829
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 1: Everyone makes mistakes, but listen, some are harder and in

830
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,320
Speaker 1: those days, I don't know if it happens now, but

831
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:53,320
Speaker 1: in those days he would have been fired ten times before.

832
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like.

833
00:42:56,440 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 2: I have always had more grace yeah than anybody.

834
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:05,280
Speaker 1: Because by the way, even now today I have friends

835
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 1: that are like she did what, Oh, I would have

836
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:11,439
Speaker 1: fired her? Like right, So there is not and part

837
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 1: of me, you know, when I struggle with that because

838
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 1: I think sometimes I'm too soft about things, and then

839
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 1: other times I'm like, but my thing is when someone's

840
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:25,279
Speaker 1: a great person and has an amazing work ethic, but

841
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 1: they're young and they have not experienced life yet or

842
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 1: work life yet, or like haven't earned their great yet

843
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 1: you have to have some grace for that.

844
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 3: Totally.

845
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 1: I think that being a good person and having an

846
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 1: incredible work ethic and attitude to me is more valuable

847
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 1: than anything else, because you can learn anything else, and

848
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 1: after a certain time, obviously, if you can't learn it,

849
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 1: it's time to let the person go.

850
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 2: Sure, like at some point that grace period has ten, right, But.

851
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:02,280
Speaker 3: Like, respecting and value somebody's work ethic and their ability

852
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 3: to want to learn is definitely an important thing. Do

853
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 3: you remember one of my big f ups? As I

854
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 3: remember your only f up, the only up, nothing, only

855
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 3: you forgot, guys, guys, And I'll never forget it because

856
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 3: it was the worst. I almost went on foot. Okay,

857
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 3: it was nothing, it was They let me in right away.

858
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 3: It was horrifying, Okay, so it was what does it was? Burbery?

859
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 3: It was Barbary was doing a fashion show here in

860
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 3: Los Angeles. Christopher Bailey was taking over the Griffith of Observatory.

861
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 3: At that time, Rachel was living in Beverly Hills. The

862
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 3: show was supposed to start at like six pm, which,

863
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 3: if anybody knows, going east in LA one hour at

864
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:53,319
Speaker 3: five pm is gridlock, brutal and really East, horrible traffic. Yeah,

865
00:44:55,400 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 3: everything said guests for this show must have the physical

866
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 3: invitation or they will not be allowed at the show.

867
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 3: It's like no exceptions. Didn't care, so they had to

868
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 3: have the physical invitation. What's the one thing I sent

869
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 3: you out the door without you and Roger? You did

870
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 3: not have your paper invitations to get in.

871
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 2: Nope.

872
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 3: Ikius was a baby and Skyla was a toddler. And

873
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 3: I was doing something in the front or there was

874
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 3: a knock on the door, and I went to the

875
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 3: front and by by your old front door. I'll never

876
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 3: forget you had a glass credenza table and they were

877
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 3: both sitting there and I almost went into cardiac arrest.

878
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 3: And I was like, oh my god, the fucking invitations

879
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 3: are right here. I panicked. I freaked out. I called you.

880
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 3: I was like, I will meet you. I will meet you.

881
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 2: Where are you.

882
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 3: I will come in the car at whatever it was

883
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 3: the kid's dinner time they were. I couldn't leave long

884
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:54,879
Speaker 3: story Sideways. I couldn't leave the house. So now I'm

885
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 3: calling everybody, emailing everybody at broad Racing. Rachel's's on her way,

886
00:45:58,800 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 3: please let her in.

887
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 2: She doesn't ever fee. It's my fault. It's not her fault.

888
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 3: With my phone, I'm taking photos sending them to Roger, like.

889
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 2: Look, this is the front, this is the back, and

890
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 2: I think, like they let us in right away, like

891
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 2: it was no big deal. And I remember like you getting.

892
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,800
Speaker 3: There because Victoria Beckham correct was standing right there, and

893
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 3: you guys just started talking to me like, oh, right

894
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 3: this way, like Mary, it wasn't a big deal.

895
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 1: So I happened to walk in with Christopher like you

896
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:24,359
Speaker 1: was right at the front, and Rosie Huntington saved my ass.

897
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:28,360
Speaker 2: You guys, but I just you were so shook. You

898
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 2: were so shook.

899
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 1: But the thing is, when it involves me, it's not

900
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 1: as bad. When it's with a client, it's much harder.

901
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:35,800
Speaker 3: That's different.

902
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like me getting my jewelry stolen versus

903
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 1: like car. Yeah, because how do I tell them that?

904
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 2: All right?

905
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 3: Exactly, it's so funny.

906
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 2: Yeah.

907
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 3: So everyone makes mistakes, okay.

908
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 2: And colossal ones are seemingly colossal. Yeah.

909
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 3: I mean I've copied wrong people in the wrong emails.

910
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 3: I mean, you do it all, you'll live, you'll learn.

911
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 1: But also I think had that mistake happened with the

912
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 1: no kit in like a no big deal situation, like

913
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:00,360
Speaker 1: she was going to like a small event and she

914
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 1: didn't have a heel pad, Like okay, right, I think

915
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 1: what ended up happening funny enough in hindsight. I actually

916
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:10,319
Speaker 1: think I ended up jumping in the car with her,

917
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,359
Speaker 1: did you, and like and like putting insoles in her

918
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 1: shoes and top sticking and like I had to do

919
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 1: something I think with a piece of her jewelry, Like

920
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:19,319
Speaker 1: there was a whole bunch of things, and I think

921
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 1: I rode with her and I think I like jumped out.

922
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:25,240
Speaker 1: That's so funny, Like I just the whole thing was crazy.

923
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 1: It's like I have laid in cars.

924
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 2: It's not glamorous to keep their dress straight.

925
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 3: It's not glamorous. It's just not There's no two ways

926
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:32,360
Speaker 3: about it.

927
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:34,840
Speaker 1: No. But I will say when I watched this episode,

928
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 1: I will say that it was probably of all the episodes,

929
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 1: probably the most one hundred percent real, unscripted from start

930
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 1: to finish.

931
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:44,359
Speaker 2: Yeah.

932
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:49,319
Speaker 3: So then we see Taylor call Brad and basically apologize.

933
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 3: She doesn't want to make him feel as horrible as

934
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:55,800
Speaker 3: she did. She kind of gets him back. She's like,

935
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 3: you're not going to quit, are you? And you can

936
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 3: hear them be like no. So it's like all in

937
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 3: the zill right world. Right again, there's harmony until later

938
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:06,399
Speaker 3: and then I get my car and then you get

939
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 3: your car.

940
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 2: I love my car. We still have our car.

941
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 3: You still have her, still have our car.

942
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 1: And the funny part is is that the boys are

943
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 1: fighting for who gets it when they get their license,

944
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 1: and I'm like, no one's sitting in that car. You

945
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 1: can sit in the front seat when Dad drives down

946
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 1: the street and that's it.

947
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 2: Hell no, yeah, hell no.

948
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 3: It's a beautiful car. Look at Yeah, it's kind of yeah.

949
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 3: I remember a lot of triple triple A cars. Yep,

950
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 3: it needs a new battery. It's gotta jump, you gotta

951
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 3: jump it all yeah.

952
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 2: I just remember whose car it is? Dylan, mkay, Dylan

953
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:41,359
Speaker 2: in peace? I know, Jesus Christ.

954
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 3: Isn't that crazy?

955
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:42,800
Speaker 2: That's wild?

956
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 3: Okay, So watching all of season one.

957
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 2: Back, was there only six episodes?

958
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 3: There's only six oh in season one, and then we

959
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 3: went to eight and then you guys jumped in, right yeah,

960
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 3: and I think you slightly shorten them it. What is

961
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 3: one thing you wish the show showed more of in

962
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:03,799
Speaker 3: season one?

963
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:06,399
Speaker 2: Well?

964
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 1: First off from a vanity perspective. Me with better hair

965
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 1: and makeup and better lighting.

966
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 2: Got it. I'm here to say that the lighting does

967
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 2: get better.

968
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:16,800
Speaker 1: I will tell you, okay, thank god, yeah, because that

969
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:20,800
Speaker 1: is unacceptable lighting on acceptable lighting.

970
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 2: What was the question, would I wish they showed more of?

971
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:27,360
Speaker 3: Yes? What do you wish there was more footage of?

972
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 2: In all of season one? I know my answer.

973
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:36,880
Speaker 1: They covered a lot of real ship, the real stuff.

974
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 1: But I'm thinking about it, like it was pretty raw,

975
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 1: you know, it was pretty raw, like I was crying

976
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:45,959
Speaker 1: and yeah, I mean Odd Studio really did Finn.

977
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, the dresses that Brad was trying to get from

978
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 3: season one was did not arrive, you know, like it

979
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 3: was real. But I wish they would have shown or

980
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 3: shot or included or even set up another photo shoot

981
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 3: watching you style a model for a photo shoot, because again,

982
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 3: you're when you're working around the client thing. A lot

983
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:08,399
Speaker 3: of the times they're there, a lot of times they're

984
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 3: not right right. So watching you really work and style,

985
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:16,880
Speaker 3: there's that glimpse of it in episode five, but I

986
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 3: wish there was more showing you work more in an

987
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 3: editorial head because that's where to me, it's like you

988
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:28,279
Speaker 3: you're you're alive, and you're you can see how much

989
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:28,800
Speaker 3: you love.

990
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:34,720
Speaker 1: It because styling a model for a shoot, an editorial shoot,

991
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 1: to me was my happiest place. That was like Disney

992
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 1: for me, truthfully, Yeah, that was Disney. I mean it

993
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 1: was really just the be all end all because it

994
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 1: was my creative freedom. Yeah, you know, there's my creative

995
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 1: freedom and my absolute happiest, you know, happiest me. I

996
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:57,840
Speaker 1: could like do that in my sleep. Yeah, you know,

997
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 1: it's just but I didn't make any money doing that.

998
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 3: Right to me, it's the most exciting part because you're

999
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 3: really watching you sort of in real time style, which

1000
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 3: you know, which what the whole show was about allegedly.

1001
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:14,399
Speaker 3: But anyways, we're going to keep recapping Rachel Low. We're

1002
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 3: going to have some guests back on climbing and heels,

1003
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 3: We're going to keep interviewing some of your favorite people

1004
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 3: in the world. But I say we keep going.

1005
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 1: I mean, guys, tell us if you want us to

1006
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:27,240
Speaker 1: keep rewatching RZP.

1007
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 3: Coming out, we can have a lot more people chime

1008
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 3: into coming up with season two three four.

1009
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 2: It gets and tell us who you want to hear from.

1010
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:40,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, it gets, it gets spicy Sea stage check until.

1011
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 2: We meet next. RZP Season two coming up.

1012
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 3: By bye bye,