1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:10,960 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty Armstrong and 3 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: Jetty and now he Armstrong and Yeddy. The new Supreme 4 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: Leader has made his first statement since being named. Ayatola 5 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 1: have that next, But first we give you Bill Maher 6 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 1: talking to Adam Schiff. This statement from the administration. 7 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 2: The President had the constitutional authority to direct the use 8 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 2: of military force because he could reasonably determine that such 9 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 2: use of force was in the national interest. 10 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: That's too vague for you. Totally vague, okay, because that's 11 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: from Obama. About Libya. 12 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 3: Well, Obama made the argument initially that he could go 13 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 3: into Syria without an authorisation. I and many others pushed 14 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 3: back on that argument. Ultimately, he did not go forward 15 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 3: with going after Assad, even though aside was gassing his 16 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 3: own people, because he thought he might lose the vote 17 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 3: in Congress. But I respect the fact that that was 18 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 3: important to him, and the fact that he did not 19 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:16,119 Speaker 3: have the support of Congress meant that we weren't going. 20 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: To go forward. 21 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 2: Okay, he's a weasel, a talking weasel. That's really our headline. 22 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, trainers or scientists have taught a weasel 23 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 2: to speak. 24 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: It's a pretty good move by Bill Maher. 25 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 2: I thought, though, sure, yeah, yeah, well, and then Schiff's 26 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 2: argument not to dwell on it too long because he's 27 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 2: a lyne piece of garbage, but that we got. 28 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: The smallest and his neck i've ever seen. 29 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 2: It ended up being a good thing that Obama promised 30 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 2: a red line and then destroyed American deterrence for a 31 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 2: couple of decades because he would have lost a vote 32 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 2: in Congress. 33 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: Well, it's a complicated thing, though, and that's a problem 34 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: we've got right now, and why presidents aren't going to Congress. 35 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: If Trump had gone to Congress, it might not have passed. 36 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: And then so you've got the president and the people 37 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: around him who firmly believe this is a necessary thing 38 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: for the United States to do for our world safety, 39 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: our own safety, and for the safety of the world, 40 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: and Congress, because they're all a bunch of freaking cowards, 41 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: I think, said no, So I guess we'll just let 42 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: them get a nuclear weapon eventually, or continue to harass 43 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 1: the world or whatever. And Obama did decide, Okay, we'll 44 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: put it to a vote, find out that it was 45 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: going to lose, and so didn't enforce his own red line, 46 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 1: which the commander in chief. So the commander in chief 47 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:40,679 Speaker 1: can't make red lines anymore without going to Congress first, 48 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 1: I guess. And what I'm about to say is not 49 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: a good thing. It's a bad thing. 50 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:47,239 Speaker 2: But not only are they cowards like you described, but 51 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 2: they're flaming, flaming partisans. If there was an act that 52 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 2: would cure cancer for all time, and Trump, the Trump 53 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 2: White House, you know, or was promoting it, the Democrats 54 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 2: would vote almost unanimously against it, and to put it 55 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 2: to a vote would make it like an ink. A 56 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 2: part is an issue, a strictly part is an issue. 57 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:08,799 Speaker 2: If he went before Congress, that's a bad thing. I'm 58 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 2: not saying therefore he was smart to not go. It 59 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 2: highlights what a bad situation we're in as a country 60 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 2: in a constitution. Honestly, but right, I don't want to 61 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 2: dwell on it because it's unsolvable. 62 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 1: If everybody in Congress is scared to ever vote yes, 63 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: you won't get in trouble for voting no, but you 64 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: could get in trouble for voting yes. Hillary had the 65 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 1: voting for the Iraq War hung around her her entire 66 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: presidential campaign. It's probably the main reason she lost to 67 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: Barack Obama in two thousand and eight for the nomination 68 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: because she voted for the Iraq War. So now nobody 69 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: ever wants to vote for it. John Kerry had the 70 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: same problem on the Iraq War vote. So no, no, 71 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: nobody ever wants to vote for it. But then you 72 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: got the problem of do you want to have one 73 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: guy deciding wars all the time, which doesn't seem like 74 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: the best system. 75 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't have time to philosophize too long on 76 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 2: this point, but the trolley card dilemma makes it just 77 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 2: so infinitely clear. People's sins of omission completely different than 78 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 2: they've view sins of commission. Not doing something, even if 79 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 2: you know that is a horrifying choice, is seen as 80 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 2: less of a sin than doing something that might end 81 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 2: up having a bad result. 82 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: Humans are strange. I don't like you people. 83 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 2: Well, I do like you people, I don't like humankind 84 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 2: in general anyway. So, speaking of Donald Trump and his 85 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 2: motivations and blah blah blah. 86 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: Got the statement from the Supreme Leader to come. 87 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 2: All right, right, yeah, yeah, do you want to do 88 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 2: that first your choice? Eh, eh, written comments. 89 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: Written comments from the new Supreme Leader. First time he's 90 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 1: said anything using my finger quotes since he was voted in. 91 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: Is he alive? Is he able to speak? 92 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 4: Oh? 93 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 2: He sure hell doesn't want to go on camera. I mean, 94 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 2: if anybody could possibly discern where he is, that's the 95 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 2: last thing he wants. Staying alive's his main goal right now. 96 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: Anyway, his message was that Iran will keep fighting and 97 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,119 Speaker 1: they are going to keep the straight of horror moves 98 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 1: closed or straights of horrormons. I'm going back to Straits. 99 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: I just saw the best map I've seen yet of 100 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:15,919 Speaker 1: that area. So you got that little island that's a 101 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: straight between the island and that, and then the island 102 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: is in the strait, so you have a straight on 103 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: each side of the island. Oh, You've got a straight straight. 104 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: So I think Straits is fine. I'm at a strait. 105 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 1: This is not the biggest problem we have in America. 106 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: But he vowed that the new Supreme Leader that they 107 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: would avenge the blood of the martyrs. He has not 108 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: appeared on video or in public since he was appointed 109 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:40,280 Speaker 1: on Monday. There are reports that he is injured. Uh 110 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 1: how bad, we don't know, but like everybody around him 111 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 1: was killed. His whole family is dead, including his dad. 112 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: So that's kind of an interesting story, right there. Is 113 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: there a chance that the Revolutionary Guard needed a religious 114 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: figurehead to point as the leader while they get their 115 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 1: act together, and he's either dead or barely old mon or. 116 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 2: Not very much of a force, breaking speculation, breaking speculation. 117 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 2: The New York Post is reporting reports have circulated that 118 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 2: the new Supreme Leader is in a coma having lost 119 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 2: his leg. 120 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 1: Who's reporting that? A New York Post? I believe? Is that? 121 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 1: What I just said? Wow, Yeah, he's in a coma. 122 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 1: Who knows? Fogg of wore? So I think that could 123 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: be psyops because we want the Revolutionary Guard or whoever 124 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 1: might be following the Supreme Leader to think, oh my god. 125 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 2: He shows himself. And when he shows himself, kerb. 126 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:50,239 Speaker 1: Lewis, yes, you will be missed. I st it. 127 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 2: It's tough work being the Supreme Leader these days. So 128 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 2: I think Barton Swim is correct. In the Wall Street Journal, 129 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 2: he wrote a great piece today about what's motivating Donald 130 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 2: Trump and the various disparaging answers that are kicking around. 131 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 2: Wants to distract attention from the Epstein files. I'm not 132 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 2: a violent man, but I would like to slap anyone 133 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 2: who says that at least a couple of good firm 134 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 2: times two. He likes to be in the big shot, 135 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 2: in the center of attention. Well, that's unquestionably true, but 136 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 2: I don't think it's primary here. 137 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:18,559 Speaker 1: He wants to profit somehow. 138 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 2: He's following the dictates of Benjamin Netnah, who read the Jews. 139 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 2: But then Marton Swam points out none of these work. 140 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 2: Trump's taken by far the biggest risk of his public life, 141 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 2: approving Epic Operation Epic Fury. Now he staked his presidency 142 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 2: on a better than pyrrhic outcome, I mean better than disaster. 143 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 2: He's antagonized a material faction of his MAGA coalition, something 144 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 2: he's not really done before. He's probably annoyed as vice president. 145 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 2: The idea of Trump as a political animal cynically weighing 146 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 2: the war's likely outcome in electoral terms also doesn't satisfy. 147 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 2: He could have launched a few Tomahawk missiles, declared the 148 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 2: mission of success, and blah blah blah in the manner 149 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 2: of Bill Clinton. 150 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 1: But Trump didn't do that. 151 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 2: He authorized a full on complex assault on what a 152 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 2: predecessor deemed a member of the Axis of Evil, and 153 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 2: nearly two weeks later, despite relentlessly negative press coverage and 154 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:08,239 Speaker 2: the prospect of economic troubles, he has not called it off. 155 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: The question is why. 156 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 2: If mister Trump is either the unserious buffoon his detractors 157 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 2: on left assume he to be, or the anti war 158 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 2: peacenick as some of his MAGA supporters thought he was. 159 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: Why did he do it? 160 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 2: What's driving both Camp's battie is that the only plausible 161 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 2: motivation for his order to strike Iran is a judicious 162 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 2: and honorable one. And I should point out Marton swam 163 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 2: is no Trump honk okay, but he says it's a 164 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 2: judicious and honorable one. That the regime in Tehran constantly 165 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 2: menaces America and its allies, that its rulers can be 166 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 2: counted on to continue the pursuit of a nuclear weapon, 167 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:50,199 Speaker 2: and no bizarre ulterior motives are necessary. They're a violent, hateful, bloodthirsty, 168 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:52,839 Speaker 2: malign regime that's trying to get nukes. 169 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: As fast as they can period. 170 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 2: Mister Trump's disaffected anti war supporters of compiled video clips 171 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 2: of the present and it's saying he won't start wars, 172 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 2: he'll end them. 173 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:03,679 Speaker 1: Sure, you've probably seen those clips. 174 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 2: Although he is a pretty solid counter argument, namely that 175 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 2: the Islamic Republic started the war and has sustained it 176 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 2: on an offer for the past forty seven years. The 177 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 2: internal reasonings for mister Trump's decision on most subjects are 178 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 2: protean difficult to discern, his explanations for them confusing, But 179 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 2: bear one thing in mind. He's old fashioned. Recall some 180 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,199 Speaker 2: remarks he made a few weeks into his first term. 181 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 2: We have to start winning wars again. I have to say, 182 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 2: when I was young, in high school in college, everybody 183 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 2: used to say, we never lost a war. We never 184 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:35,559 Speaker 2: lost a war. You remember we now we never win 185 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 2: a war. We never win, and we don't fight to win. 186 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. The whole idea of the Pirate victory of it's 187 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: from a famous battle where the general said something along 188 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 1: the lines of we just won this battle, but I 189 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:53,719 Speaker 1: think we're going to lose the war because the expenditure 190 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: of troops and treasure and all that sort of stuff 191 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 1: would be that, you know, we have this great, big 192 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: blast at the beginning, take out the supreme leader. But 193 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: ultimately history decides it was a bad idea. I mean, 194 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 1: that's the way Trump has bet his entire presidency is 195 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:10,199 Speaker 1: how it eventually turns out. I mean, that's way history 196 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: will judge it. Indeed. 197 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 2: Indeed, and oddly enough, I want to get into the 198 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 2: fatwah against Solomon Rushdie and how significant it was and 199 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 2: is after And this is an odd transition. After talking 200 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 2: about your dog's nutrition with rough Green salmon rush he 201 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 2: got his eyes stabbed out. Would you like more enzymes 202 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 2: for your dog food? You know, I consider myself pretty 203 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 2: damn good at transitions, But there was just nothing there. 204 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 2: There is nothing there that wasn't just horrifying. Hey, it's 205 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 2: about your dog's long term health. 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Don't 221 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:32,959 Speaker 2: change your dog's food, just add rough Greens and watch the. 222 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 1: Health benefits come alive. Do we have time for this, No, 223 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: we need not. 224 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 2: I will tell you this though, the fatwa against Rushdie 225 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 2: was much much, much, much more than a bunch of 226 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 2: religious extremists who are mad at an author. It's significance, 227 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:54,079 Speaker 2: it's ripples continued today and it was a signal we. 228 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:57,079 Speaker 1: Should have he died. Yeah, it's way back in the 229 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:00,839 Speaker 1: day and never forgotten. I read mem last year and 230 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 1: I kept having that moment. I was like, how was 231 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: this not a bigger deal at the time? And I 232 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:10,959 Speaker 1: hate with this headline. We'll get to later. Florida mom 233 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: with face tattoo d Miles in mugshot after allegedly trying 234 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 1: to murder sister, I think I can top that one. Okay, 235 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: that's a pretty good story, big murder trial going on. 236 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: I mean, this one's wild and wooly. Okay. So, and 237 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 1: how about that drone threat on California? That was a 238 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 1: big story all day, Yes, California or the whole West coast. 239 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: That was the whole West Coast? I guess, well, right, yeah, 240 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:41,719 Speaker 1: my god man, what the hell the listeners all over? 241 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 2: There are people in Portland right now, in Seattle who 242 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 2: are completely unaware. 243 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 1: Of the practically non existent threat. I feel like La 244 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 1: such a target. San Francis so much sodomy. Anyway, we 245 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 1: got all that stuff on the waist to hear. The 246 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:06,359 Speaker 1: book to read on this topic is called Joseph Anton. 247 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 1: I read it a couple of years ago by Salmon Rushdie. 248 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 1: That's the name he lived under, not a pseudonym he 249 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: wrote under because he wanted to have a cool pen name. No, 250 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: it's the name he hid from murderist Islamic thugs. He 251 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: had to live under that name for many, many years, 252 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 1: away from his kids and wife and all of his friends, 253 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: for fear of being killed by Islamists because of a 254 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 1: book he wrote. 255 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 2: Right Jonathan Rosen wrote a brilliant piece for the Free 256 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:38,079 Speaker 2: Press that really made an impression on me, and he 257 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 2: talked about the very things Jack mentioned, and he remembers 258 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:46,199 Speaker 2: hearing about the Fatwah. He had recently dropped out of 259 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 2: graduate school. He was a writer himself, and he said 260 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:51,079 Speaker 2: it seemed to have served that a best selling novelist 261 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 2: born in India, living in London, famous around the world 262 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 2: might be murdered because the octogenarian ruler of an Islamist 263 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 2: deocracy thousands of miles away had called for his head 264 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 2: like the Red Queen shouting off with their heads and 265 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 2: Alice in Wonderland. And then he said, and though the 266 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 2: Iahtola died four months later, it soon became a parent 267 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 2: that Rushdie's novel was no match for a few sentences 268 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 2: read over the radio, calling on quote, all valiant Muslims, 269 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 2: wherever they may be, to kill the author of the 270 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 2: Satanic Versus and anyone else who helped bring his blasphemous 271 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 2: book into the world. And there's a lot more to this, 272 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 2: and I touch on it as Timer allows, but the 273 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 2: takeaway for me was the calling card the announcement by 274 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 2: the Ayahtola on behalf of fundamentalist Islam is that if 275 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 2: you offend us, we will kill you and everyone you 276 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 2: work with wherever you are on earth till the end 277 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 2: of time, because we have that right. See the bombing 278 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 2: last weekend in New York City, right, bombing, right, right, 279 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 2: which goes on, and he makes the point among others 280 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 2: that Rushti was persuaded to make a public apology in 281 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 2: the early days of his death sentence, his forever a 282 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 2: global death sentence, and the dying Eyetola fired back quote, 283 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 2: even if Solomon Rushdi becomes the most pious man of 284 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 2: all time, it is incumbent on every Muslim to employ 285 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 2: everything he has, his life and his wealth to send 286 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 2: him to hell. That's fundamentalist Islam, folks, there, it is there. 287 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 1: It is well. And what rushed He couldn't believe. Well, 288 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 1: first of all, he got stabbed. What now a couple 289 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: of years ago he got attacked on a stage by 290 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 1: a Muslim lunatic, almost died, lost his eye. And I 291 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: haven't read knife where he describes that whole thing, because 292 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: it sounds too gruesome for me. But back in the 293 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: time of the Fatwah, Rushti was so amazed at how 294 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: many governments, including his own where he lived in Great Britain, 295 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: made statements of we shouldn't be offending Muslims, and that's 296 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: you know we we stand on the side of you know, 297 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 1: those respects. Yes, exactly. They didn't take the side of 298 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 1: free speech. They took the side of let's not offend 299 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: radical Muslims. 300 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 2: Wow, I just asked you to, you know, get some 301 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 2: of the garbage off your lawn, and you're gonna murder me. Now. 302 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 2: I don't think the sin was asking, hey, any chance 303 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 2: you'll clean that up? But you know, I haven't come 304 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 2: up with much to worth listening to in the past 305 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 2: thirty years, I know. But one thing I used to 306 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 2: say about Portland is they think they can passive their 307 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 2: way out of this, and a lot of the Western 308 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 2: world thought, and some still think, although like in Britain 309 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 2: and France that are waking up in hurry and Germany 310 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 2: and Sweden and other places, they think they can passive 311 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 2: their way out of fundamentalist Islam. It's a terrible, terrible mistake. 312 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 2: But let me read just a little more Rosen's piece. 313 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 2: The question remains urgent even after the joint American and 314 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 2: Israeli strikes on the early morning of feb twenty eight 315 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 2: to mark a new phase in the long war wage 316 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 2: by the Islamic Republic of Iran, which came into the 317 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 2: world chanting death to America and death to Israel. I've 318 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 2: been thinking a great deal about the Fatwa now that 319 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 2: the murderous regime the Iyatola founded in nineteen seventy nine 320 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 2: is teetering on the bloody brink, because it may yet 321 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 2: be that all of the proxies nurtured over the years 322 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 2: by the Islamic Republic for its apocalyptic showdown with the 323 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:26,160 Speaker 2: Jewish state in the West. After all the billions spent 324 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 2: on Islamist militias, ballistic missiles, and global terrorism, plus half 325 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:33,360 Speaker 2: a trillion dollars on its nuclear weapons program in pursuit 326 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 2: of its endlessly repeated aim of quote wiping Israel off 327 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 2: the map. It is a few sentences read aloud on 328 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:42,679 Speaker 2: Radio Tehran mere breath that will remain its most successful 329 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 2: method of exporting the Islamist revolution even after the murderous 330 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 2: regime it created goes down. And again, this is several 331 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 2: pages long. It's brilliantly written. 332 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 1: We'll post it. 333 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 2: I don't know if you'll get paywalled, but we'll post 334 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 2: it at Armstrong and Giddy dot com under hot lengths. 335 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:01,120 Speaker 1: You had two guys get beaten down in a really 336 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:04,919 Speaker 1: nice shopping area yesterday near here San Jose because they 337 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: were speaking Hebrew. And there's some Muslim fanatics round, folks. 338 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:17,400 Speaker 1: We're all salmon Rushdie, Armstrong and Getty. The New York 339 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 1: Post will not let up on the fact that the 340 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 1: Supreme Leader, the new Supreme Leader can't get an erection. 341 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:26,719 Speaker 1: That has been their story now for a week and 342 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: particularly apparently the guy spent time in the hospital to 343 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: try to deal with the fact that he couldn't get 344 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 1: it up enough to impregnate his wife so that they 345 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: could have a male heir, because he needed to have 346 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 1: a male air. As you can see, he's now the 347 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,239 Speaker 1: Supreme Leader because his dad was. It's like you know, 348 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:47,120 Speaker 1: the Middle Ages over there. Sure, But anyway, so the 349 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 1: new Supreme Leader put out a statement like an hour 350 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 1: or so ago. We'll get into that a little bit later, 351 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: but their headline in the California Post is soft launch 352 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 1: a round. Supreme Leader puts out. 353 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:02,160 Speaker 2: A hour I'm not sure that's fundamental to what's happening. 354 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:03,719 Speaker 1: Well, maybe it is. I don't know, Okay, we got 355 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:06,360 Speaker 1: a little game show, this very very silly game show 356 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 1: thing we're gonna do here coming on, but we're gonna 357 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: play a sound and you got to guess what the 358 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 1: sound is. Okay, So that's coming up in just a 359 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 1: little bit. But first gonna be a tough one. Yeah. 360 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:20,360 Speaker 1: First I'm gonna have to listen very carefully. But first seriousness. 361 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Just a quick follow up on the Solomon 362 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:26,439 Speaker 2: Rushdie Fatwah thing. If you're not familiar with the history 363 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 2: of the thing, I just wanted to point out that 364 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 2: ten days after the Ayatola Komeni issued the Fatwah, two 365 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 2: bookstores in Berkeley, California, were fire bombed. Both had been 366 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 2: selling the Satanic Versus. One of bookstores one of the 367 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 2: author's favorites. Bookstores pulled it off the shelves, the publisher 368 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 2: yanked it all over. The Salmon Rushi couldn't believe that 369 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 2: everybody caved to the Iyatola's threats rather than saying, no, 370 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 2: damn it, free speech. 371 00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 1: This is a Western society. We will write and read 372 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: what for the hell we want. No, that's not how 373 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:05,439 Speaker 1: the world reacted. The world reacted with fear, and you know, 374 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 1: helped give these nut jobs the idea that they could 375 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: boss us all around, and that's why they've been bossing 376 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:13,400 Speaker 1: us around for fifty years. 377 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 2: If you didn't hear the last segment, number one, get 378 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 2: it via podcast Armstrong and getting on demand. And secondly, 379 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 2: just a very brief recap. We were talking about how 380 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 2: the fatwa against Rushiti was really a calling card to 381 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 2: the world from fundamentalist Islam before anybody understood where it was, 382 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 2: and how a lot of wise during governments thought we'll 383 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 2: pass of our way. 384 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:34,159 Speaker 1: Just don't anger the Muslims, they thought, and we'll be okay. 385 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 2: But anyway, so you had those fire bombings in Berkeley, California. 386 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 2: Rushdie's Japanese translator was stabbed to death in nineteen ninety 387 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 2: one outside the university in Tokyo where he taught. Rushdie's 388 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,959 Speaker 2: Italian translator had been stabbed in Milan the week before, 389 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 2: but survived. In October nineteen ninety three, as Norwegian publisher 390 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 2: was shot in Oslo, and though gravely wound, it survived. 391 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 2: A Zizna is in a Turnish editor, an intellectual who 392 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 2: had announced his intention to translate the Satanic Verses Versus 393 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 2: into Turkish narrowly escaped being burned alive in July of 394 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:11,360 Speaker 2: ninety three when his hotel in eastern Turkey was torched 395 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 2: by an angry mob after the artist, musicians and writers 396 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 2: inside refused to send out the seventy eight year old 397 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 2: Nessen to be murdered. Thirty seven people died in the fire. 398 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 2: He was helped down a ladder by firefighters who began 399 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 2: beating him once they realized who he was, and someone cried, 400 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 2: this is the devil we should have really killed. And 401 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 2: there's more. But yeah, that was the calling card a 402 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 2: fundamentalist Islam. This is how we are, this is what 403 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 2: we do. You will bow before us. 404 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: Well, and then just a couple of years ago, rush 405 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 1: To himself was almost stabbed to death. Forty years after 406 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 1: that book came out, is it longer? Yeah? Crazy, Yeah, 407 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: so they have a memory for this sort of thing. 408 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 2: Well, so probably a little transition music is necessary here, Michael. 409 00:21:56,320 --> 00:22:03,920 Speaker 2: In fact, I'm not sure it's ever been more necessary. 410 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 2: Little Soviet era transition music appropriates At the time we were. 411 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 1: Discussing, do you know, you probably don't know this, do 412 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:14,439 Speaker 1: you kdie You've been too new to the show to 413 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:18,159 Speaker 1: know this transition music. This is a fascinating story. We 414 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 1: should we should show you the video. Okay. It was 415 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:24,360 Speaker 1: a hit song in the Soviet Union. The song had words, 416 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: but the Soviet Communist government thought the words were too 417 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: too there's a love song. They're too much for society. 418 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 1: They couldn't handle. So they had to turn this hit 419 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: song into la la la la la to get past 420 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 1: the communist government. Oh wow, no yah. They actually tried 421 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 1: a couple of times. In the review board or whatever, 422 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:47,879 Speaker 1: it always said no, still not good enough. They're like, 423 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 1: all right, so well, for the sake of the show, 424 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: I'm kind of happy they did that great transition music 425 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 1: so the guy would sing this on you know, variety shows, 426 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 1: is a hit song with no words, just because the 427 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: Communist party doesn't think we should have work. Good grief, 428 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 1: I know. Isn't that crazy? Yeah that is okay. 429 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:11,119 Speaker 2: Zorondami got elected in New York City. All right, okay, 430 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 2: try to identify this song. You can't. 431 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:15,920 Speaker 1: I mean, this sound. Try to identify this sound. You can't. 432 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: I just tell you right off the bat. You're gonna 433 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: guess wrong. Oh you've ruined the game. But try to guess. 434 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 4: Betty, Please don't be careful. Oh my god, he's doing it. 435 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 1: Oh my god, what was the grunting about? Why was 436 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: that guy grunting? 437 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:45,119 Speaker 2: Fifty year old John Stevenson, a kickbox boxer, proved he 438 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 2: had balls of steel after becoming the first person in 439 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:51,360 Speaker 2: the UK or probably anywhere else, to pull a car 440 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 2: using justice testicles. Hmmm, is that what you guess, Katie? 441 00:23:56,560 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 2: That spot I actually have a spot on. Thought it 442 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 2: was a pickup truck. I thought it was a guy 443 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 2: pulling a pickup truck with his testicles. 444 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 1: I thought it was a guy pulling a train with 445 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 1: his tongue. But I was close, but just not right. 446 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 2: And he munched on a bag of nuts while completing 447 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 2: his challenge. He joked afterwards, quote, when I'd finished, my 448 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:19,719 Speaker 2: plums were bright purple. 449 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 1: But I'm still firing on all cylinders. How did it 450 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 1: not just yank them off in the way that he 451 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 1: into it, in the way that I have participated in 452 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 1: castrating hogs? 453 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 2: Oh lord, the details are unairable. He is trying he 454 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 2: was trying to raise awareness of men's mental health issues. 455 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 1: Oh that's well he did. So you say he's the 456 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: third person to No, it turns out. 457 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 2: He's the first person oh to pull a car in 458 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 2: the UK with his testicles, but Jack an excellent question. 459 00:24:58,280 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 1: Whether you realized it or not. 460 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 2: Using your genitals to pull a vehicle isn't a new concept. 461 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 2: Chinese ki kwong Qui kong gum Quigong master Tu Jingsheng 462 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 2: has earned himself the nickname of iron Crotch for his 463 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 2: displays of penile power. 464 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,959 Speaker 1: Iron Crotch kung Fu master yeong Wai. 465 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 2: He went to even greater lengths to pull a five 466 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 2: ton military helicopter, but there's no record of it ever 467 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 2: being done. 468 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:29,159 Speaker 1: In the UK before, I, uh, do you work up 469 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 1: to it? 470 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 3: Like? 471 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 1: Do I start with lightweight and work up to it? 472 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 1: Start with like two pound dumbbells and like move up 473 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: to a kettlebell and then exactly then I'm pulling maybe 474 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:40,639 Speaker 1: I don't know, a bicycle. 475 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 2: His sister Sherry was among those who turned out to 476 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 2: cheer for his latest feet. She said, quote, it was amazing, 477 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 2: It was bizarre to watch, but we're all really proud 478 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 2: of him. 479 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 1: I'm sure, Oh yeah, you gotta be super proud. What's 480 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 1: the apparatus that attaches to you? What is that? 481 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 2: Like some sort of silk scarf, like a lasso around. 482 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 1: All of this sounds like a terrible idea. 483 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 2: A long orange like scarf looking, how do you not 484 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 2: just end up garrotted, I don't know, castrated like a goat. Yeah, 485 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 2: you've got to fashion exactly the right kind of not. 486 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:30,919 Speaker 1: Do you remember when I boy, this is I don't know, 487 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 1: I don't know if anybody wants to hear this. Do 488 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:34,680 Speaker 1: you remember when I probably not? You remember when I 489 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 1: brought that tool in and I ask everybody what this is? 490 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:37,479 Speaker 2: Oh? 491 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:42,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, And it was for castrating male goats. And it's 492 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:46,159 Speaker 1: an interesting piece of handheld equipment. And you put rubber 493 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,919 Speaker 1: bands around it, and then when you squeeze it, it 494 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,159 Speaker 1: opens up the rubber bands into a big circle, and 495 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,160 Speaker 1: then you put that around the junk of the goat, 496 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:56,679 Speaker 1: and then you slide it off the piece of equipment, 497 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: and then the rubber bands go tight around the bottom 498 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,399 Speaker 1: underneath the test and then eventually it just cuts off 499 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 1: the blood circulation and the testes just drop off handy, 500 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: And then, having observed it myself, owls fly in and 501 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,919 Speaker 1: grab the testicles and fly off with them, delighted with 502 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 1: their find. Well, you know, it's circle of life or something. 503 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:18,879 Speaker 1: My life is better now that I know that. Yeah, 504 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,679 Speaker 1: it's interesting though. I love the version of Show and 505 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 1: Tell is bringing in a castration tool. 506 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no kidding. I knew most people in the 507 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 2: Middle Ages. I knew most people wouldn't be able to 508 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 2: guess what that was. 509 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:34,439 Speaker 1: No, you were right on that. Not to turn this serious, 510 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:35,440 Speaker 1: because I do everything. 511 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 2: That's why I'm rarely invited to gatherings. The grit and 512 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:45,880 Speaker 2: reality of farm life, which used to be known damn 513 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 2: near universally among Americans, is now so distant. Most people's 514 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:58,119 Speaker 2: lives are so you know, sterile and no unintended, not intended, 515 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:04,959 Speaker 2: so you know, and safe and careful and in a 516 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,119 Speaker 2: life and death and where meat comes from and all. 517 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 2: It's just we all pretend it's not happening. 518 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 1: I've told this story before. 519 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 2: I hope it's every bit as good as the last one. 520 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 2: Do owls eat anybody's balls in this one. 521 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 1: I'm from a small town Kansas. I had a girlfriend 522 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 1: from small town Nebraska. She was even from a smaller 523 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 1: town than me. And their field trip that they did 524 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 1: in grade school was they walked down the street in 525 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 1: this town of three hundred people. They walked down the 526 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:35,640 Speaker 1: street to the butcher where they had a steer standing 527 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 1: in the back room, and the guy shot the steer 528 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 1: in front of the kids and then butchered it so 529 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 1: the kids would understand where meat came from. And how 530 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 1: old are these This was not an eighteen ninety eight. 531 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: This would have been in She was five years younger 532 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 1: than me, so this would have been in the late seventies. 533 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 1: I guess around nineteen eighty. Wow, yeah, shoots you think 534 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 1: fifth grade? She said, Wow, fifth grade shoot a steer 535 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 1: in front of you. They probably didn't do that in 536 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 1: the Bay Area of California, did they? 537 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 4: Caty? 538 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 1: Oh, No, I did not go on that field trip. 539 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 2: And have to shoot the genderbread person and butcher him, 540 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 2: hurt them. 541 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 1: They them. So do you think it's a meaningful in 542 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 1: any way that we're further away from the from that 543 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 1: grit do we need to be? I mean, we're further 544 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 1: away from other really really gritty things from the Middle 545 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 1: Ages that I think we're probably better off for. 546 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 4: Yeah. 547 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 2: In Dave Grossman's book on Killing, which is really an 548 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 2: interesting read even if you don't agree with every bit 549 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 2: of it, he talks about how we've become so distant 550 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 2: from death because it used to be ninety nine percent 551 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 2: of people died in their home with the family around 552 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 2: and the rest of it, and you'd call the undertaker 553 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 2: and everything, but everybody understood that Grandpa's passed and now 554 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 2: they're going to take his body and his soul is 555 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 2: with God or whatever. And animals were frequently slaughtered in 556 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 2: the yard and then they were on your plate an 557 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 2: hour later or whatever. And we've gotten so far from that. 558 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 2: We've kind of fetishized death a weird way. It's distant, 559 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 2: but we're obsessed with it. And I'm not doing a 560 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 2: good job of explaining. But perhaps I've sold a book 561 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 2: or two. 562 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 1: Or is it the flip side that we value life more? 563 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 1: Is that the case? 564 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 2: Or no, that's an interesting question by God length the 565 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 2: response required by God. 566 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 1: But life was cheap in a lot of parts of 567 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 1: the world for and still is. Or it just doesn't 568 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 1: seem to have hardly any meaning whatsoever. So here's the question. 569 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: If your brother, you find out your brother is gonna 570 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 1: pull some heavy object with his testicles, do you tell 571 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 1: the news anchor I'm so proud of him. I don't know, 572 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 1: I don't know. 573 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 2: Depends if he succeeds or fails I mean, if you 574 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 2: like chickens out or gives up when you know the 575 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 2: thousands of pounds of pressure are applied. 576 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 1: What if they just proud of him, pull right off. 577 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 1: I think I would pretend I didn't know him. He's 578 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 1: trying to draw attention to men's mental health. 579 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 3: Just kind of do the Homer Simpson back into the 580 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 3: bush thing exactly. 581 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, good job, good yeah, Okay, more 582 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 1: on the way next. 583 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 4: It of course the big investigator. 584 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 1: But you have a lot of things happening, and all 585 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 1: we can do is take them as they come. We 586 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 1: know where most of them are. We've got our all 587 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 1: of them, I think. So that's Donald Trump yesterday talking 588 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 1: about sleeper cells, Iranian sleeper cells across the country, that 589 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 1: he says, we have our eye on them, all of them, 590 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 1: we think. Which that was a question asked out of 591 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 1: the news floating around throughout the day of this threat 592 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 1: of a drone attack on and I guess it was 593 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 1: specifically California drone attacks on California by the Iranians, but 594 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 1: that that story was from back in February. Wyatt just 595 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 1: erupted yesterday and then became chatter. I'm not exactly sure. 596 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 1: I don't know if that was on I don't know 597 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 1: if it just reached the media somehow, or if somebody 598 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 1: leaked that out on purpose to have a you know, 599 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 1: get people's attention. Hey, this is serious. I don't know. 600 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. 601 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 2: It does have a bit of a rally around the 602 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 2: flag feel to it, but it's still so hard to say. 603 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 1: No one other thing before we get to the Supreme 604 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 1: Leader making his first statement. Well not really, but Ian Bremer. 605 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 1: Ian Bremer tweeted out, the streets of horror moves aren't 606 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 1: completely closed. Iranian tankers are still passing through, bringing oil 607 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 1: to China and oil revenue to the Islamic Republic. Yeah, 608 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 1: the Wall Street Journal had the story that Iran is 609 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 1: actually exporting more war oil than they were before the 610 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 1: war started. Ian wrights. The United States could stop them, 611 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 1: but that would antagonize China and further escalate the war. 612 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 1: So here we are. That's an interesting one. So China 613 00:32:55,440 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 1: gets seventy percent of its energy from other places. Thank 614 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 1: god we are not in that situation, but so we 615 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 1: think it would antagonize China if we stopped the oil 616 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 1: shipments from Iran. Well, this is a delicate balance. We 617 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 1: got going here anyway, Iran's new Supreme leader. This is 618 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 1: the way this went down. So apparently I had it 619 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 1: backwards in my head. So first the rumors were floating 620 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 1: around the Middle East that he is in a coma. 621 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 1: So that story was first, the story that the Supreme 622 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 1: leaders he's in a coma, had his leg amputated and 623 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 1: is badly hurt. That story has been floating around I 624 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 1: guess Iran. So then they put out this no here, 625 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 1: here's a statement from the Supreme Leader. And then they 626 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 1: put out a written statement read on Iranian state TV 627 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 1: without any explanation of why he was not on camera 628 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 1: or you weren't hearing his voice right, which is a 629 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 1: little who's that for the Iranian people? I don't know. 630 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,240 Speaker 1: I need proof of life. Yeah, he says he's alive. 631 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 1: RAN's new Supreme leader allegedly released his first statement today, 632 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,799 Speaker 1: vowing to use the lever of closing the Strait of 633 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:26,759 Speaker 1: Hormuz to international energy shipping after reports circulated that he 634 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,799 Speaker 1: was in a coman had his leg amputated from those 635 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 1: strikes that killed his dad and pretty much all of 636 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 1: his family. No explanation provided for why the fifty six 637 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 1: year old did not appear or read out his purported words. 638 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 1: We are in the audio business. We know very well 639 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 1: that recording somebody at this point in world history is effortless. 640 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:50,800 Speaker 1: If you own a phone, if you own a computer, 641 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,879 Speaker 1: if you've got anything, you could record somebody's voice. Now, 642 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 1: it is possible that they're just so concerned about somehow 643 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:01,759 Speaker 1: it being tracked to his location, because hiding him is 644 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 1: going to be of the utmost importance Israel or US. 645 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,439 Speaker 1: We're going to kill him the first chance we get. 646 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,880 Speaker 2: I wonder what security protocols he does have in place 647 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 2: right now, because, for instance, you could put your phone 648 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 2: on airplane mode, record his message hand curry you're at 649 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:23,880 Speaker 2: somewhere else, and then broadcast it with never never connecting 650 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,239 Speaker 2: to the internet. But I wonder if they just don't 651 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 2: even want to see a currier coming and going from 652 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 2: wherever he is, right they think we're watching from the 653 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 2: clouds and we are. 654 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 1: Well, they got to be pretty paranoid. Oh yeah, yeah, 655 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 1: after the first couple of rounds of snuffins, Yeah yeah. 656 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:43,319 Speaker 1: But to not have a picture at all or hear 657 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 1: the voice when you're trying to show that you're still alive, 658 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,960 Speaker 1: that's not usually the way it works. Yeah, maybe he 659 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 1: isn't a coma. 660 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,400 Speaker 2: So many question marks about what's next, what we can do, 661 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,360 Speaker 2: what we probably will do. We'll have Mike Lions on 662 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,120 Speaker 2: in just a couple of minutes. Hope you can hang around. 663 00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,719 Speaker 2: If you can't podcast Armstrong, you getting on demand. 664 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,360 Speaker 1: My main questions for Mike Lions is because don't understand this. 665 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:09,359 Speaker 1: How can we not take out whatever Iran has that's 666 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 1: allowing it to fire on these ships? They hit five 667 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:15,400 Speaker 1: ships yesterday, tankers trying to go through the straight of 668 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 1: horror moves. How can we now take that out? I 669 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 1: want to hear what Mike's explanation for that is. Armstrong 670 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 1: and Getty