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Speaker 1: And makes the wise guys pay attention. I am Chad Milman.
Speaker 1: I am joined as always by my BFF, my companion,
Speaker 1: my compadre professional better signon Hunt.
Speaker 3: Hello, So I am in Hello Chad.
Speaker 1: Dude, coming on a little bit late because we were
Speaker 1: waiting on the end of that Broncos Giants game. Like,
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody wanted to win that game. I
Speaker 1: think they scored forty six points in the final quarter. Again,
Speaker 1: it just ended a second ago. Will let's kick the
Speaker 1: field goal with Broncos win thirty three to thirty two.
Speaker 1: That game had everything of both teams going out of
Speaker 1: their way to make the biggest mistakes possible.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just a insane game.
Speaker 2: That's it. We're just sitting here.
Speaker 1: We were freaking out that whole time, and that's all
Speaker 1: I have to say about it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just I don't know. I can't can't get
Speaker 4: over the comeback yet. I gotta let it sink in first.
Speaker 2: Well, the comeback wasn't sane.
Speaker 1: The Broncos were down twenty six to eight, and then
Speaker 1: took the lead with like a minute left, and then
Speaker 1: the Giants took the lead with thirty seconds left, and
Speaker 1: then the Broncos just won the game. There, digest it
Speaker 1: while we go through the rest of the stuff. We
Speaker 1: can talk about it later.
Speaker 2: Listen.
Speaker 1: Here's the good news. We avoided the Raiders as big dogs.
Speaker 1: We avoided the Jets as small dogs. Unfortunately, we could
Speaker 1: not break all of our bad habits. We did bite
Speaker 1: on the one big dog that we got way too
Speaker 1: enthusiastic about. Our record right now is one and two.
Speaker 1: I feel lucky to be one and two with the Browns.
Speaker 1: We lost with those big dog Titans. We have the
Speaker 1: Lions minus four and a half tomorrow night. We have
Speaker 1: the Texans plus three and a half tomorrow night. Last
Speaker 1: ones out with the Cowboys. We're going to talk about that,
Speaker 1: the Saints. Glad we avoided that, Minnesota, Glad we avoided that.
Speaker 1: We're going to get to our early leans, a review
Speaker 1: of how we did in all of our picks. We're
Speaker 1: going to have your live comments later in the show.
Speaker 1: We're going to have our shame shame, shame. We're going
Speaker 1: to have our Hero of the Week at least we'll
Speaker 1: each have our hero of the week.
Speaker 2: Are you ready?
Speaker 1: I'm ready, Brother Miami and Cleveland Cleveland minus two and
Speaker 1: a half, Simon. Listen, we nearly talked ourselves out of
Speaker 1: bet that we love the entire week this morning.
Speaker 2: We nearly did that. We honest to god, almost did that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, honestly, not that I saw today coming, but I
Speaker 4: just I knew we were about to step in a
Speaker 4: couple of games, and I was worried. This for sure
Speaker 4: was one of them. You said, you feel lucky to
Speaker 4: be wanting two. I I'm mad because it's like, I
Speaker 4: don't know what game to take out. You nailed your
Speaker 4: Browns pick, obviously Chad's choice. I should have should have
Speaker 4: took should have took the Chargers out forcing that Cowboys
Speaker 4: game and that that was a tough one where it's
Speaker 4: like kept trying to find a way to get that
Speaker 4: Cowboys game in because it was obviously a good number.
Speaker 4: But you nailed it with this one. Obviously my fear
Speaker 4: came true. But it happened to Toua Gabriel. I think
Speaker 4: through the whole I don't know, eleven times, whatever it was,
Speaker 4: it's got really lucky where they just could run it.
Speaker 3: We didn't need the rookie throwing it. So that was
Speaker 3: the dream scenario for us.
Speaker 4: It was like, Okay, we can run it and our
Speaker 4: defense gets a bad tour that just like I said,
Speaker 4: you nailed it. That was well we talked about and
Speaker 4: they literally went to I think he had three picks
Speaker 4: to it and got benched in the third quarter or
Speaker 4: fourth quarter.
Speaker 3: So yeah, that was that was a dream, dream scenario
Speaker 3: in that game.
Speaker 1: It was Dylan Gabriel that the first brown scoring drive
Speaker 1: was so gross. Uh, you know, I have the the
Speaker 1: betting fund that I do with all my buddies, right,
Speaker 1: and so of course I'll I'll send them all the
Speaker 1: picks that I've made for us for the day on
Speaker 1: Sunday morning. And then at one point we were texting
Speaker 1: about the Bears, of course, and someone asked me about
Speaker 1: the Browns and I said, nobody watch it.
Speaker 2: Let me.
Speaker 1: Let me do the work here. It's my responsibility. It's
Speaker 1: too gross.
Speaker 2: Thank god.
Speaker 1: There's that guy in the Dolphins that nose tackle for
Speaker 1: the Dolphins, Zach Sealer, who every single game has some
Speaker 1: egregiously stupid over aggressive penalty. I think he's done it
Speaker 1: four times this year. And today it was a WWE
Speaker 1: close line of Dylan Gabriel that was on third and
Speaker 1: six and kept the Browns opening drive alive.
Speaker 2: That got them the field goal.
Speaker 1: And for a minute, I thought all the Browns were
Speaker 1: gonna need was that field goal, because like the Dolphins
Speaker 1: couldn't do anything. And what I loved even more was
Speaker 1: Dylan Gabriel. He was basically just thrown with his eyes closed,
Speaker 1: like to the middle of the field, guy super covered.
Speaker 1: They're catching it through arms and legs and helmets.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 1: Horrible and I feel like we've now gotten lucky, not lucky,
Speaker 1: but we've chosen the Rounds and the Browns in the
Speaker 1: right spot at the right time. Game one against the Bengals,
Speaker 1: Game too today against Dolph.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we just it's people get annoyed by it, but
Speaker 4: there we keep saying they're a different team at home.
Speaker 4: Their stats back it up and the defense keeps proving
Speaker 4: it out. And you know, their only real weakness in
Speaker 4: the entire game was a chan I think he averaged
Speaker 4: six yards per carry.
Speaker 3: So he was doing what he should be doing.
Speaker 4: We just too unbelievable, how bad Too is And like
Speaker 4: you said, Gabriel could be then same exact spot that
Speaker 4: too was in. If you needed to throw in that game,
Speaker 4: you were down. It was such sloppy conditions. It was
Speaker 4: so bad. It was just a nightmar all over. And
Speaker 4: we didn't get by the turnover. I think it was
Speaker 4: on a kickoff Miami guys carrying it gets hit right after,
Speaker 4: like you said, that Brown score and they got the
Speaker 4: ball back and scored again, and like you said, that
Speaker 4: was it. Well, yeah, that was the one good read
Speaker 4: we had this week, and that was Chad's read, Chad's choice.
Speaker 2: It's two in a row for Chad's choice on good Reads.
Speaker 1: Let's go Mike McDaniel, by the way, before we leave
Speaker 1: this game.
Speaker 2: Not that I'm not in a hurry to leave, No,
Speaker 2: you want to stay here.
Speaker 1: The one game I got right, But Mike McDaniel, he
Speaker 1: looks so sad and his rain slicker and his hoodie
Speaker 1: and his glasses. And at halftime they interviewed him and
Speaker 1: I felt like he he could barely get the answers out.
Speaker 2: I don't know if he lasts through Tuesday.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just bad. It Every week. I feel like
Speaker 3: they're gonnaet rid of them. They don't.
Speaker 4: And you know, I talked about them as a last
Speaker 4: place team for the obvious reason of their schedules start
Speaker 4: out easy.
Speaker 3: They're one and six and now it gets brutal. They
Speaker 3: got Atlanta, Baltimore, Buffalo, Washington before they're bye week.
Speaker 4: So you know, can can he get them two wins
Speaker 4: in that stretch? I don't think so. So it's like,
Speaker 4: why keep them? Why not fire him? Get it move
Speaker 4: and get in the process moving. But yeah, the owner,
Speaker 4: we should just I feel like the Miami doesn't fire
Speaker 4: our teams in season usually, so I'd be shocked if
Speaker 4: is Stephen Ross the owner. I'd be shocked if he
Speaker 4: steps up and fires this guy.
Speaker 1: Only the Jets keeping the Dolphins from being the worst
Speaker 1: team in the NFL New England at Tennessee, Tennessee, we
Speaker 1: had them at seven and a half.
Speaker 2: It was our brass balls bet of the week.
Speaker 1: Honestly, I think this morning it was the only game
Speaker 1: we kind of didn't hesitate on when we were trying
Speaker 1: to figure out our final five.
Speaker 2: Clearly we should have.
Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like we can we can
Speaker 1: trace our mistake back to I think on Tuesday, because
Speaker 1: I think on Tuesday, on Sunday night, we were all
Speaker 1: in on the Patriots like it was six and a half.
Speaker 1: We loved Rabel going back, we hated the Titans. There
Speaker 1: was no way we were betting the Titans like we
Speaker 1: were one betting the Patriots in this game. Brian Cavahan
Speaker 1: gets fired, and I think we got over our skis
Speaker 1: and got too excited. I think we fell into bad
Speaker 1: habits and convinced ourselves that the dead cat bounce was
Speaker 1: more powerful than just a well coached team and a
Speaker 1: quarterback who's so freaking hot right now.
Speaker 4: And this is also just life betting bad teams. It's
Speaker 4: it was a thirteen to ten game Tennessee because they
Speaker 4: are pull the coach and it's came ward. They could
Speaker 4: have chewed up the final two minutes, maybe got a touchdown.
Speaker 3: Instead, they get a field goal.
Speaker 4: Drake goes right down the field, incredible throw, respect to him,
Speaker 4: throws a touchdown, and even that we're down seventeen thirteen
Speaker 4: and a half. Even that, I'm still like, Okay, we're
Speaker 4: moving the ball. We're in this game. But like we
Speaker 4: always say, with these bad teams.
Speaker 3: You need to avoid the huge mistakes.
Speaker 4: You need to luck to bounce your way, and the
Speaker 4: luck at that to that point, felt like it was
Speaker 4: our way outther than that too many touchdown. The opening
Speaker 4: drive for the Patriots, Drick May gets concussed and they
Speaker 4: bring in the backup and on a third and six,
Speaker 4: on a clear blitzer, Dobbins dodges this blitzer. The past
Speaker 4: or not comes in cold, slips out of a sack
Speaker 4: on a free blitzer, completes the thirty and six or
Speaker 4: fifteen yards for a first down, and even then we're
Speaker 4: still not dead yet Again, it's seventeen thirteen.
Speaker 3: Drake May comes.
Speaker 4: Back in all concussed up, he's not all on target still,
Speaker 4: he throws it behind his receiver on a fourth and one,
Speaker 4: this guy one hands insane stretch catches it to himself.
Speaker 4: I don't know about you. At that moment, I was like, Oh,
Speaker 4: we're dead. There is that's no way we're getting out
Speaker 4: of this.
Speaker 1: That's when I stopped taking notes on this game. Yes,
Speaker 1: I literally wrote, I wrote, this was our shot. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we didn't stop Dobbs. We didn't stop Dobbs. That was
Speaker 1: how we were going to get a chance. With the
Speaker 1: three plays that Drake May was out, because he was
Speaker 1: so on fire, like he's throwing these deep balls like
Speaker 1: they're five yard shallow crosses and it's so accurate and
Speaker 1: they're so easy. However, however, so it was I think
Speaker 1: this point, it's twenty four thirteen, and then cam Ward
Speaker 1: I actually try to get for about twenty minutes. I
Speaker 1: try to get chat GPT to do something for me.
Speaker 1: I'm going to explain it. I feel like, you know
Speaker 1: the Heimlich maneuver posters, where they're like illustrations of how
Speaker 1: to perform the Heimlick maneuver if somebody is choking, and
Speaker 1: they're universal. They're in every restaurant around the world, right.
Speaker 1: I feel like the universal symbol for when your team
Speaker 1: is just wholly incompetent and it is not going to
Speaker 1: go anywhere and it as low as it's possibly going
Speaker 1: to get is a quarterback who is untouched, unbothered in
Speaker 1: dry weather and the ball slips out of his hand
Speaker 1: and goes backwards. That to me, and I tried to
Speaker 1: get jet GPT. I actually like wrote, mimic, give me
Speaker 1: a poster that mimics the Heimlich maneuver, only it's a
Speaker 1: picture of cam Ward losing the ball on the five
Speaker 1: yard line with the ball going behind his head. And
Speaker 1: it took me literally like maybe five tries before I
Speaker 1: actually got the poster that I wanted it to be,
Speaker 1: but it wasn't quite good enough that I wanted to
Speaker 1: post it. But dude, after that, it's thirty one to
Speaker 1: thirteen and that's the ballgame. And that's exactly what happens
Speaker 1: to bad teams. And that's what happens when you bet
Speaker 1: bad teams.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Newland didn't need a try anymore.
Speaker 4: Like I said, they got that opening touchdown that that
Speaker 4: was the next series that came.
Speaker 3: Whod I got the ball back?
Speaker 4: Yeah, so they get fourteen points like that, Like you said,
Speaker 4: it's thirteen to thirty one to thirteen in like thirty
Speaker 4: show a single play the rest of the rest of
Speaker 4: the game. Drake May just I think they probably told him, hey,
Speaker 4: you have the record right now for completion percentage. Donally
Speaker 4: passed the ball. We can just run the ball now
Speaker 4: for the rest of the game. And I think he
Speaker 4: finished nineteen of twenty one and broke our record sept
Speaker 4: by Tom Brady of was a ninety completion percentage, So
Speaker 4: something like that pretty incredible. Like you said, Drake May
Speaker 4: playing out of his mind right now. That was a
Speaker 4: horrible spot, and you know, Tennessee. Not that they gave
Speaker 4: it away, but they did. Like they just they're just
Speaker 4: a bad team, like we keep saying. And you're right.
Speaker 4: If they hadn't fired their head coach, we would have
Speaker 4: been we'd be sitting here very happy with our minus
Speaker 4: seven and a half on that Patriots team.
Speaker 3: But it got suckered in on the hook.
Speaker 4: Took a just a dead cat.
Speaker 3: There is no bounce.
Speaker 1: That got no bounce, just a dead a dead cat
Speaker 1: lying on the side of the road.
Speaker 2: It's just sad. It's so sad.
Speaker 1: I will say, we didn't respect Mike Rabel, we didn't
Speaker 1: respect Drake May, we didn't respect Christian Gonzalez, who the
Speaker 1: announcers at the end of the game where like we
Speaker 1: haven't even mentioned his name, And then the analyst said, yeah,
Speaker 1: because they won't throw his way like he isn't he'd completely.
Speaker 2: Just shut down half the field.
Speaker 1: So we're going to have to start thinking about that
Speaker 1: a little bit more.
Speaker 2: Cam word.
Speaker 1: First player to lose five fumbles in his first five
Speaker 1: games since do you know who?
Speaker 2: Do you know who? I'm going to talk about him next?
Speaker 3: Oh, Justin Fields, Daniel Jones. Oh wow, it's a good company.
Speaker 1: By the way, We're going to do a shame shame
Speaker 1: shame later in the show. I feel like the shame
Speaker 1: shame shame should be US US US because we had
Speaker 1: India Chargers minus one and a half. This was the backup,
Speaker 1: Simon says to the Eagles and the Vikings, and I
Speaker 1: feel like this morning we almost walked away from this.
Speaker 1: We almost walked away from it. And I went back
Speaker 1: through my notes and I was trying to figure out,
Speaker 1: why did we do it? You felt great about it.
Speaker 1: I started to come around because the number was moving
Speaker 1: on direction and the Colts were such a public dog,
Speaker 1: there had to be a regression. And yet the Chargers
Speaker 1: just got.
Speaker 2: Worse, like so bad.
Speaker 1: It felt like they had kind of given up. They
Speaker 1: could never stop anybody. They lost on the second on
Speaker 1: their second play of the game, they lost another offensive lineman.
Speaker 2: This was another one where note.
Speaker 1: Taking was sparse because it was a dead bet halfway
Speaker 1: through the first quarter.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and.
Speaker 4: I tried to get out of it too. Honestly, I
Speaker 4: said to you, I thought Cults would be public dog,
Speaker 4: and it was eight percent of the money was on
Speaker 4: the Chargers, and I said to you, I was like,
Speaker 4: this is not this is not what I thought I
Speaker 4: was going to be. I did not think this would
Speaker 4: be the more public side. But like I said, the
Speaker 4: public did have a good day overall. Like the Bears
Speaker 4: came through Dallas, came through our Brown's bet, very public
Speaker 4: came through, the Patriots came through. The Chiefs won by
Speaker 4: a ton Eagles one. They just yeah, unfortunately we didn't
Speaker 4: jump on the right public bets. But yeah, I told you.
Speaker 4: My only regret was, like I I should have should
Speaker 4: have talked myself out of it and put in Dallas
Speaker 4: on this one.
Speaker 3: And you know, as good as Herbert's stats look in
Speaker 3: this game, he burned us. He burned us in this game.
Speaker 2: Like God, he was terrible.
Speaker 4: He was terrible. Like his his picks in that second quarter.
Speaker 4: You know, the bat and ball. Can't get mad him
Speaker 4: about that one as much, but the red zone pick
Speaker 4: is just a killer, especially when Daniel Jones didn't have
Speaker 4: an incredible game like twenty three of thirty four, but
Speaker 4: when Taylor is having an incredible game Jonathan Taylor, and
Speaker 4: he's getting you know whatever, he had three touchdowns tall tasks,
Speaker 4: So mintor maybe I need to readjust on this Chargers
Speaker 4: team that like that defense last year that was that
Speaker 4: sold him a lot of games and they were really dominant.
Speaker 4: Whatever his adjustments were or coming into this year from
Speaker 4: his defense from the previous year, the book is clearly
Speaker 4: out like this, This card Chargers defense is just now
Speaker 4: what they were last season and massive, massive win for
Speaker 4: this Colts team that was historically a bad spot usually aspired.
Speaker 3: The teams have a letdown and start the game.
Speaker 4: They I think it was a fourth and two on
Speaker 4: their own thirty eight or thirty nine, they went for it.
Speaker 4: They got it fourth and one at the fifty five
Speaker 4: or yeah, the forty forty four of the Chargers, they
Speaker 4: got it, and then they're down the red zone and
Speaker 4: they went for it. So they had three straight fourth downs.
Speaker 4: They went for it on that second drive and they scored,
Speaker 4: and they're up thirty to nothing.
Speaker 3: And we said the turnovers came for Herbert. Daniel Jones never.
Speaker 4: Put them in a position I'll lose that game. So, yeah,
Speaker 4: that's this Colts team. Even missing pieces defensively, they're just
Speaker 4: a juggernaut right now on a offense. And yeah, it's
Speaker 4: it's incredible. Like the Daniel Jones thing, it is bizarre world.
Speaker 4: He just always seems like he makes the right decision.
Speaker 4: He's so comfortable in this offense. So yeah, this Colts
Speaker 4: team's tough.
Speaker 1: By the time there were nine minutes left in the
Speaker 1: second quarter, the Colts were up twenty to three. They
Speaker 1: had had the ball for what is that thirteen of
Speaker 1: the twenty one minutes that had been played, and had
Speaker 1: gained more than two hundred yards about two hundred and
Speaker 1: fifteen yards.
Speaker 2: The Chargers had forty four yards at that point.
Speaker 1: And I want to feel bad for Justin Herbert. Like
Speaker 1: every game you watch him and people are in his
Speaker 1: grill the entire time, Like he has no time to
Speaker 1: throw that Grover Stewart, you know the big Man interception
Speaker 1: that happened.
Speaker 2: It's because Grover Stewart got.
Speaker 1: To him bad at the ball in the air. Someone
Speaker 1: else tackled Justin Herbert while the ball was in the air,
Speaker 1: and then Grover Stewart had an unfettered opportunity to intercept
Speaker 1: the ball. That's every game, every play for this guy.
Speaker 1: Like it's so frustrating to watch him because you see
Speaker 1: him make these insane plays and you gotta wonder how
Speaker 1: good could he be if he actually had a.
Speaker 2: Good offensive line.
Speaker 1: Forget the stats like they were, you know, so excited
Speaker 1: about him throwing for four hundred yards in the game,
Speaker 1: and obviously he threw for four hundred yards because they've
Speaker 1: been down for by three touchdowns the whole game. So
Speaker 1: there were other things about this game that I'm like,
Speaker 1: this isn't even a Jim Harbaugh coach team. They gave
Speaker 1: up so many big plays and were so sort of effortless.
Speaker 1: Right they finally scored a touchdown. I think they made
Speaker 1: it thirty one ten or something like that, and the
Speaker 1: very next kickoff, the Colts run it back to like
Speaker 1: the twenty yard line, just like I was betting on Harbaugh.
Speaker 1: I know you were too. What do we think of
Speaker 1: Harbaugh right now?
Speaker 3: And I'm put on him?
Speaker 4: Like you said a lot of what the offensive line?
Speaker 4: I mean, you said you wish you could see what
Speaker 4: he looked here about healthy offensive line? You saw it
Speaker 4: last year. I Mean the fear is is that his ceiling?
Speaker 4: That's that's my push back against every there. I think
Speaker 4: he's so great, It's like, is his ceiling? Second in
Speaker 4: the division and throwing four picks in the first round
Speaker 4: the playoffs and losing at Houston, like because that was
Speaker 4: he had.
Speaker 3: All of his pieces last year. His receiver is healthy,
Speaker 3: his offensive line was healthy last year. And I'm with you.
Speaker 4: Like the Herbert stuff, He's always had these moments like
Speaker 4: you say, three four four twenty.
Speaker 3: Obviously he's got a ton of talent. No one's doubting that.
Speaker 4: It's just like he said, he killed us in that
Speaker 4: first half of the game, where Daniel Jones didn't. And
Speaker 4: it wasn't like he was under pressure. He guys in
Speaker 4: his face.
Speaker 3: He just made the right decisions that my right reads
Speaker 3: or Herbert wasn't for the most part. So yeah, they're
Speaker 3: they're in a bad spot.
Speaker 4: Like I think they're backup right tackle went down in
Speaker 4: the game. They might have had another guard go down
Speaker 4: in the game, and it's like Joel hopefully back next
Speaker 4: week for them. They just it's it's rock bottom for
Speaker 4: this team right now. It's it's it's really bad.
Speaker 1: Well, look they play on Thursday night, so that's tough.
Speaker 1: It's really gonna be hard for them. Think about this
Speaker 1: legacy is justin Herbert just destined to be in the
Speaker 1: Chargers tree of great quarterbacks who throw for a lot
Speaker 1: of yards and never get beyond a championship game.
Speaker 2: A lah Dan fouts a lah Philip Rivers.
Speaker 1: Is Stan Humphrey is going to go down as the
Speaker 1: greatest winner in the history of the Chargers football franchise.
Speaker 4: I mean Rivers back in the day, I like really
Speaker 4: had a grudge against him because I loved the Chargers
Speaker 4: because I think anyone that was my age, especially in
Speaker 4: the fantasy football Ladanian Thompson and Antoniel Gates were incredible
Speaker 4: and they had a year with Sean Merriman was like
Speaker 4: the best end in all football, and it just never
Speaker 4: went past the first or second round.
Speaker 3: Of the playoffs. Philip Rivers, So I hope they're wrong.
Speaker 4: Like I said, who doesn't want Herbert to do well
Speaker 4: in this team to do well?
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's this just feels as bad as you can.
Speaker 4: Possibly get four straight ats losses. They're just falling behind
Speaker 4: now in this division. You know the positives for them,
Speaker 4: like we said, getting guys back.
Speaker 3: We know you obviously have the talent. You're four and
Speaker 3: three right now.
Speaker 4: The schedule breaks in a way if they do get
Speaker 4: health Like you said, this is kind of tough. They
Speaker 4: got Minnesota in a short week at home, but then
Speaker 4: they have at Tennessee, then Pittsburgh, then Jacksonville done their
Speaker 4: bye week. Just if they can just get three and
Speaker 4: one here, they could still be in it. But if
Speaker 4: they falter here, their second half schedule is very tough,
Speaker 4: so they.
Speaker 3: Do need to strength some wins here.
Speaker 4: They're just sliding right now since that Giants lost one
Speaker 4: in three since that Giants game.
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Speaker 1: What I'm loving mostly people asking which teams we can't
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Speaker 1: New Orleans at Chicago, Listen. I didn't bet this game
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Speaker 1: that comes back from a stirring victory in a short
Speaker 1: week and doesn't get caught napping against a scrappy and
Speaker 1: competitive team, And they most for the most part, they
Speaker 1: did that. It was shaky, There's no doubt about it.
Speaker 2: It was. It was very shaky, like they.
Speaker 1: Were dominating and then let the Saints crawl back with
Speaker 1: touchdowns at the end of the first half, beginning of
Speaker 1: the second half, and then the Saints.
Speaker 2: Just they kept it close. They kept it close.
Speaker 1: The Bears would kick a field goal, kicked a field goal,
Speaker 1: and the Saints kept driving, kept driving. I was worried
Speaker 1: that I was going to feel like an idiot, that
Speaker 1: I was so adamant we not put this in the contest,
Speaker 1: because it just you mentioned it this morning. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I knew you're going to bring this up, and I
Speaker 1: can't do it.
Speaker 2: Bear down.
Speaker 1: Chicago Bears have won four games in a row. I
Speaker 1: don't know how they're doing it. When I watch them,
Speaker 1: they make me sick, but I'll take it.
Speaker 4: They have a really good ad, a coach who has,
Speaker 4: like I told you, one of the best run blocking
Speaker 4: schemes and all football.
Speaker 3: They brought with him from Detroit, and.
Speaker 4: Yes, he keeps surviving games that, like we said, old
Speaker 4: Bears teams wouldn't. This game, I just didn't like the
Speaker 4: fact that the Bears were catching so many points when
Speaker 4: knew the weather was gonna be bad, and I just
Speaker 4: I still believe it even after this game. I don't
Speaker 4: trust Klea Williams in bad weather. I don't think he
Speaker 4: handles the elements well at all. And in this game
Speaker 4: he didn't play well, like he was the reason the
Speaker 4: Saints were in it. Uh, fifteen completions one hundred and
Speaker 4: seventy three yards and a pick. That's not gonna win
Speaker 4: you games. But then you look and see how they
Speaker 4: did win. Swift won twenty four on the ground. Yeah,
Speaker 4: touchdown average and six yards per carry. Your backups in
Speaker 4: their average and six yards per carry. Just this is
Speaker 4: what you wanted to The new NFL is what you
Speaker 4: want to win with is the run game in the defense,
Speaker 4: and you guys have it in spades right now. Your
Speaker 4: defense stepped up. Rattler had won three picks, two picks,
Speaker 4: three picks a guy one pick coming into the game
Speaker 4: he only wont to come to the game, and a fumble,
Speaker 4: So three picks in a fumble. So just a huge
Speaker 4: win for the Bears. Not an ideal spot for them.
Speaker 4: Like you said, they're coming off few huge wins that
Speaker 4: kind of stole. Then they blow a team out. Now
Speaker 4: this is a big deal. This is like a really
Speaker 4: feel good team. And you know, in this division, who's
Speaker 4: to say Green Bays better than the Bears right now?
Speaker 4: I wouldn't say that. So I've be found pretty good
Speaker 4: as a Bears team. There's a path to be in
Speaker 4: a wild card and you haven't had that in a
Speaker 4: couple of years. Brother, So I've found pretty good about
Speaker 4: this year. One of the Ben Johnson experience, it's like
Speaker 4: whatever they paid him, I know, people were like arguing
Speaker 4: another he's gonna be the highest paid coach. He hasn't
Speaker 4: done anything to earn that. This is why it's like
Speaker 4: you are paying for these games like this.
Speaker 1: Oh, he's earned it, Brost. You're not dealing with a
Speaker 1: highly functioning franchise in terms of the executive ranks or ownership,
Speaker 1: and you're definitely not dealing with a fan base that
Speaker 1: isn't that is at all reasonable, rational or on the
Speaker 1: edge at all times. Like I'm sick to my stomach
Speaker 1: watching this team. I'm sick to my stomach. I know
Speaker 1: Caleb isn't turning the ball over, but I'm really sick
Speaker 1: to my stomach watching him scramble. I feel like every
Speaker 1: time it's just catastrophe waiting to happen. But Wow, Ben
Speaker 1: Johnson loves to run the ball, and I feel like
Speaker 1: that kind of gets forgotten a little bit because the
Speaker 1: Lions scored so many points, you would forget that they
Speaker 1: were scoring so many points by running the ball. And
Speaker 1: what he's done with this run scheme for the Bears
Speaker 1: and made their offensive line, which credit to the Bears.
Speaker 1: As much as I ripped their front office, they did
Speaker 1: a great job rebuilding that offensive line.
Speaker 2: And pro He's going to go to the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I'm saying, like he's still playing all pro
Speaker 4: level for you guys this year. Yes, it's crazy how
Speaker 4: good he is in that middle blot.
Speaker 2: He's fantastic.
Speaker 1: Darnell Wright has been playing great, Drew Dollman has been
Speaker 1: playing great. Like they've solid the.
Speaker 2: Most important part of their team.
Speaker 1: And you know, Swift has been what he used to
Speaker 1: be a guy who got three yards and then fell
Speaker 1: and now he's getting fifteen yards and running through tackle.
Speaker 3: So he used to be going to that Ben Johnson got
Speaker 3: rid of.
Speaker 2: And that's right.
Speaker 4: So like that's why again I'd be still excited if
Speaker 4: I'm a Bears fan because this is not his team.
Speaker 3: Like he's gonna just through these drafts.
Speaker 4: After these, the front offense will realize, let this guy
Speaker 4: pick his guys in the offense, he's we're running his
Speaker 4: scheme all right, your GM. Just because he wants to
Speaker 4: act like he earns the check, let him run the defense.
Speaker 4: You gotta let Bengal get his guys because, like I said, Swift,
Speaker 4: you're saying how Grady looks in this offense. Come on,
Speaker 4: we know Swift is good, but like, let him go
Speaker 4: get his guy in the draft. He's running back and yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm just like I said, Bears, it ain't gonna be
Speaker 4: pretty this year, but man, you guys keep winning ugly games,
Speaker 4: and that's that's the sign of a really good team.
Speaker 1: Speaking of winning, today, the Philadelphia Eagles had their best
Speaker 1: game in a year and probably other than the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts had his best game in the year and
Speaker 1: certainly their best game this season. They beat the Philadelphia
Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings in Minnesota. Minnesota was plus two and
Speaker 1: a half. I mean, I'm glad we talked ourselves out
Speaker 1: of it when this morning we really talked ourselves out
Speaker 1: of it because we knew.
Speaker 2: Quinnyon Mitchell was playing.
Speaker 1: That's not why the Eagles won this game, dude, Like,
Speaker 1: how did you feel as a fan watching the Eagles
Speaker 1: do what they did today?
Speaker 3: No, we did get burned by Jallen Carter though that
Speaker 3: picked six. That was Jalen Carter.
Speaker 4: You put Wentz's lap and that was the difference. I mean,
Speaker 4: obviously the drop touchdown. Anyone out there that bet it
Speaker 4: with me that that hurts. Like when they get the
Speaker 4: touchdown the back of the end zone then replay with
Speaker 4: a magnifying glass.
Speaker 3: Like, well the vault didn't move, that's not a touchdown.
Speaker 3: It's like, well, damn, I guess you're right. It's not.
Speaker 3: No cover that was the cover.
Speaker 2: That was that's how we were getting it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was right there.
Speaker 4: So the pick six, like we always said, anytime you
Speaker 4: have that with a dog, you're always pretty much dead.
Speaker 4: But the Eagles let us hang around. There's still just
Speaker 4: something wrong with that team. And uh, like you said that,
Speaker 4: I guess could be the best game Hurts sat this year.
Speaker 4: I still think that Rams game was even more oppressive,
Speaker 4: just because they were dead as dead. The defense knew
Speaker 4: he had to throw for three quarters and Hurts still
Speaker 4: somehow did it against a has We're seeing a pally
Speaker 4: good Rams team, This Fightings team. Shocking how this game went.
Speaker 4: Their number two against the pass and football. So their
Speaker 4: strength is the pass, their weakness is the run. Barkley
Speaker 4: is just non existent. He had eighteen carries for forty
Speaker 4: five yards. I mean it's crazy. So Hurts like the
Speaker 4: first time in his career that I can remember, he
Speaker 4: had negative ten rushing yards. I don't think he's ever
Speaker 4: had negative ten rushing yards or like under a rushing
Speaker 4: yard in a game, and then threw for three hundred
Speaker 4: and twenty six yards and three touchdowns.
Speaker 1: So just.
Speaker 3: Not the way we want to win as an Eagles fan,
Speaker 3: that's my biggest takeaway.
Speaker 4: It's fun. I'm happy because it shuts up the idiots
Speaker 4: for a day. That Hurts is a bad quarterback and
Speaker 4: he can't throw the ball. But this is not how
Speaker 4: the Eagles want to win. We need to figure out
Speaker 4: this run blocking scheme. Our offensive line still has major issues.
Speaker 4: And yeah, it's it's a good win. I'll give him that,
Speaker 4: But another game of physically stole on like that. They
Speaker 4: got issues. Man, That Carson Wentz was terribly sloppy, really bad,
Speaker 4: and they, like we said, had a chance to win
Speaker 4: that game at the very end.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's Dante Smith career high. Give him some props.
Speaker 4: Davonte Smith one hundred and eighty three yards, receiving most
Speaker 4: of his career ever in a game. So yeah, really
Speaker 4: impressive game by Hurts. But still, as an Egles fan,
Speaker 4: major major issue still in this Eagles team.
Speaker 1: Perfect QB rating, first foreign completions, three touchdown passes, in
Speaker 1: the first time in more than a year he's thrown
Speaker 1: for more than three hundred yards.
Speaker 2: But you're totally right.
Speaker 1: The Eagles still probably should have lost that game. The
Speaker 1: Vikings were five of six for field goals versus touchdowns.
Speaker 1: In the red zone today. So they got into the
Speaker 1: red zone six times, kicked five field goals.
Speaker 2: Had one touchdown.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Wentz was terrible.
Speaker 1: Because Carson Wentz in the red zone had two terrible
Speaker 1: sacks on separate drives and on another drive had an
Speaker 1: intentional grounding where where he just tossed the ball underhanded
Speaker 1: under pressure to nobody that knocked him back from the
Speaker 1: nine on a I think second in goal to the nineteen.
Speaker 2: For a third in goal. It was terrible. He kept
Speaker 2: in the game with kept us in the game with
Speaker 2: the legs, but frustrating game to watch if you if
Speaker 2: you had the vikings.
Speaker 4: Yeah, brutal, no cover and yes, Simon says, just in
Speaker 4: the toilet right.
Speaker 1: Now, Washington at Dallas two and a half. Look, it
Speaker 1: was the right conversation for us. We just had a
Speaker 1: debate about the wrong team. We were debating the Browns
Speaker 1: and the Cowboys, and we probably should have been debating
Speaker 1: the Cowboys and the Chargers and the Cowboys of the
Speaker 1: Titans and dak once again, brilliant, brilliant, and George Pickens amazing.
Speaker 1: At one point, George Pickens had a pass that when
Speaker 1: he was leaning left, the pass went over his right
Speaker 1: shoulder towards the sideline. He was able to corral it,
Speaker 1: and as he was in the air, his whole body
Speaker 1: went limp, Like you could literally see his legs just
Speaker 1: sort of get rubbery, and so he could drop and
Speaker 1: get his knees on the ground before he went out
Speaker 1: of bounds. He's playing out of his mind right now. Yeah.
Speaker 4: And another game where you know, whatever weaknesses that Cowboys
Speaker 4: defense has, it's just a juggernaut, like you said, offensively,
Speaker 4: c Ceedee Lamb coming back now to an offense that
Speaker 4: didn't miss a beat without him, like Pickings Pickens, Ferguson
Speaker 4: the tight end.
Speaker 3: He's probably the number one tight end football right now. Ferguson.
Speaker 4: And another game where you know, didn't have many yards,
Speaker 4: we had two big touchdowns. He just they're just really instync.
Speaker 4: Dak is just playing out of this world. And there's
Speaker 4: a reason, you know, even he had a losing record,
Speaker 4: people are saying he should be the MVP. Conversation, it's fair, like,
Speaker 4: I know he won't win it if he goes eight
Speaker 4: to nine, nine and eight and Mahomes does what Mahomes does,
Speaker 4: which is what he's doing this year. Mahams is gonna
Speaker 4: win it, but Mahomes was his division has a better record.
Speaker 3: He'll win it.
Speaker 4: But it's a fair debate right now, Like between him
Speaker 4: and Baker and Mahomes them off their teams, they're all in.
Speaker 2: The dumb do not do not forget Drake May Drake.
Speaker 3: May for MVP, Yeah alright, and DeAndre Swift Yeah, but yeah,
Speaker 3: I just I can't believe it.
Speaker 4: Like as the only guy here that thought Dak was
Speaker 4: worthy of being their top ten.
Speaker 3: I feel pretty good about my preseason love for da because,
Speaker 3: like I said, we all left him for dead. Everyone
Speaker 3: left Ak for dead. And just because he did look
Speaker 3: bad last year. Remember those first four or five games
Speaker 3: before he got hurt, he did look bad. I got white.
Speaker 3: People are so off of him. But this is Dak
Speaker 3: playing at the highest level right now, and it's interesting.
Speaker 3: Schottenheimer a lot.
Speaker 2: Of shit in the summer, A very impressive.
Speaker 4: Yeah, offense is not the problem right now, clearly, like
Speaker 4: you said, Ibra Fluf in that defense that still might
Speaker 4: be the Achilles heel.
Speaker 1: Listen, all all credit to Brian schottenheimmer Like, yeah, no
Speaker 1: one gave him any chance to be good coach.
Speaker 2: He got laughed at the entires drop.
Speaker 4: Season memory, how mad you were at me because I
Speaker 4: spent five minutes talking about him in the summer.
Speaker 2: I don't remember anything.
Speaker 3: You raged about it. You said, why did you waste
Speaker 3: five minutes?
Speaker 4: We should have been talking about raybel which is fair
Speaker 4: bout you spent five minutes. But yeah, I just said,
Speaker 4: everyone left this guy for dead.
Speaker 3: He might be a good coach.
Speaker 1: Hey, to my credit, I didn't leave Dak for dead,
Speaker 1: because to leave someone for dead you have to remember
Speaker 1: they're in the league. And I had just completely forgotten
Speaker 1: until you said Dak, And I'm like, oh, yeah, that guy,
Speaker 1: that guy, and he's doing all right, Simon.
Speaker 2: So look we're one and two.
Speaker 1: It has been a crazy, crazy end to a bunch
Speaker 1: of these games, the Packers and the Cardinals.
Speaker 2: The Packers do not look very good right now.
Speaker 1: This is now four weeks in a row where they
Speaker 1: have not looked good, including coming out of a ten
Speaker 1: day rest. You could argue that Jacoby Brissette should be
Speaker 1: the starting quarterback for the Arizona Cardinals and not Kyler Murray,
Speaker 1: because he's made them significantly more competitive in much more
Speaker 1: difficult spots. The Denver Bronco won a miraculous game. The
Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs won by thirty one points. The New
Speaker 1: York Jets lost at home as one and a half
Speaker 1: point underdogs to the Carolina Panthers by a touchdown.
Speaker 3: Carolina Panthers, they've became a favorite the Jets before kickoff,
Speaker 3: so think about those pros hammering that with that big money.
Speaker 4: And yeah, Brace Young didn't finish the game unfortunately. I
Speaker 4: think he got knocked out as Andy Dalton had to
Speaker 4: finish shit and they just did nothing that second half.
Speaker 3: But coming to the.
Speaker 4: Game, Bryce Young, Panthers, they're one and fifteen on the road,
Speaker 4: huge win, first win, is a favorite in like five years.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I know our kids are growing up. Brain.
Speaker 3: Friend of our eyes are Carolina Panthers.
Speaker 2: They really are.
Speaker 1: Dave Canalis, good for him, Yeah, good for him. Let's
Speaker 1: do a shame.
Speaker 3: Shame on you.
Speaker 1: I was gonna give my shame to ca Ward because
Speaker 1: he has now become the poster child for incompetence, but
Speaker 1: I think for the second week in a row, I'm
Speaker 1: giving it to the Chargers. So shame on us for
Speaker 1: continuing to invest in the Chargers, and shame on the
Speaker 1: Chargers for basically giving up like anytime they got close
Speaker 1: in that game, they found a way to give it
Speaker 1: back to the Indianapolis cult whether it was they drove
Speaker 1: down the field and finally had success and then Justin
Speaker 1: Herbert throws in the red zone, interception in the end zone,
Speaker 1: or when they finally score a touchdown and it looks
Speaker 1: like they might be able to make a play and
Speaker 1: then they give up the long kick return to the
Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts. Their defense on multiple third downs. There was
Speaker 1: a third down where they had third and seventeen and
Speaker 1: they gave up a forty yard dime to Alec Pierce
Speaker 1: because Daniel Jones found him wide open streaking towards the sideline. Like,
Speaker 1: the defense is pathetic, the coaching was pathetic, the play
Speaker 1: was pathetic. This team. Shame on them, Shame on them
Speaker 1: for wasting our time today.
Speaker 3: Size same, same, same, same, shame on I'm gonna go
Speaker 3: up the books.
Speaker 4: I won't be too mad in my own picks because
Speaker 4: I made those picks and they were all terrible today,
Speaker 4: Just awful betting wise a team. I did love that
Speaker 4: you were on the other side. We didn't really fight
Speaker 4: about it or talk about him much. This Giants team,
Speaker 4: how do you lose that game. Shame on the Giants.
Speaker 4: It was basically nineteen nothing with the start of the
Speaker 4: fourth quarter. They scored Denver scores to get the two pointer.
Speaker 4: It's nineteen to eight. Dark gets the ball back on
Speaker 4: a third and seventeen from Denver's forty one. He throws
Speaker 4: a pass that bounces off his own guy's hands into
Speaker 4: the hands of Theo Johnson who takes it for a
Speaker 4: forty one yard touchdown.
Speaker 3: Again a deflected ball for the Giants.
Speaker 4: So now the Giants are up twenty six to eight
Speaker 4: with ten to fourteen left in the fourth quarter. Chad,
Speaker 4: what did you believe it if I told you they
Speaker 4: lost that game to that Denver team with Boonick. So
Speaker 4: just a shame on the Giants. That felt like the
Speaker 4: type of game for your season, right, you could either
Speaker 4: go three, you could go to three and four if
Speaker 4: you're the Giants, huge wins, two huge wins in a row.
Speaker 4: They lose it now two and five. It just well,
Speaker 4: see what the head coach can do and try to
Speaker 4: hold it together. But man, that is a disaster loss
Speaker 4: and huge, huge win for Denver.
Speaker 3: That stole one there at the end.
Speaker 1: Now five and two, how they stole it out of
Speaker 1: no idea because they had multiple chances on the last
Speaker 1: drive to stop the Giants before they scored what looked
Speaker 1: like could potentially be the game winning touchdown. They had
Speaker 1: two interceptions where players collided with each other that could
Speaker 1: have ended the drive. And then of course, they got
Speaker 1: called for a pass interference in the end zone on
Speaker 1: a third and nineteen that Sean Payton was so mad
Speaker 1: about he got called for a personal fil because he
Speaker 1: ran out of the field and was yelling at the
Speaker 1: refs literally in front of the end zone in the
Speaker 1: middle of the field where the two yard line. Is apoplectic.
Speaker 1: The fact they came back and won that game on
Speaker 1: to just one miracle pass, one great pass by Bo Nicks.
Speaker 2: Good for the Broncos. Who is your hero of the week?
Speaker 3: La mural.
Speaker 4: I have to go with Chad and the Browns. That
Speaker 4: was our hero call of the week. You stuck with it,
Speaker 4: like you said, wasn't feeling great about this morning, worried
Speaker 4: about the weather.
Speaker 3: You were on it all week, hung in there, gave
Speaker 3: it to us.
Speaker 4: We still have never gone oh to five and thanks
Speaker 4: to Chad, we will not be going five this week.
Speaker 4: Got our one win one and two, gonna sweep Monday
Speaker 4: night to be two.
Speaker 1: We can still be three and two. That hair the
Speaker 1: lack of a haircut is still in play.
Speaker 4: I was like, maybe I'll go get a cut tomorrow.
Speaker 4: It's like, now you can't do anything, gotta wait.
Speaker 1: I was thinking today, I'm not gonna know how we
Speaker 1: did until Tuesday morning because I won't be awake at
Speaker 1: the end of the Texans.
Speaker 4: Don't just open one eye and check your phone at
Speaker 4: midnight or one in the morning.
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, I might go to bed at nine.
Speaker 1: I'll take a melatonein, start reading and like ignore everything,
Speaker 1: just so I'm not even close to being anxious. I'll
Speaker 1: probably have to get up at p at like two,
Speaker 1: so maybe I'll check down, but I'm hoping not to.
Speaker 1: My hero of the week is also Cleveland, specifically the
Speaker 1: Cleveland defense. Just to be more on point about how
Speaker 1: bad Dylan Gabriel was and this offense was.
Speaker 2: The Browns had.
Speaker 1: Fewer total yards, fewer total plays. They only had one
Speaker 1: hundred and sixteen passing yards total, They averaged barely more
Speaker 1: than three yards per carry, and went four of eleven
Speaker 1: on third downs. Yet this game was never a sweat
Speaker 1: thanks to all the forced turnovers, including three picks by Tua,
Speaker 1: including a pick six to start the second half, and
Speaker 1: then another pick when Tua was throwing from deep in
Speaker 1: his end zone that the Browns returned to about the
Speaker 1: two and then scored a touchdown right after. Like we
Speaker 1: should be heroes of the week for pulling the trigger
Speaker 1: on this game.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 1: Before we get to the leans and comments, Simon says,
Speaker 1: was Minnesota plus two and a half. Chad choice was
Speaker 1: Cleveland minus two and a half. Brass Balls was Tennessee
Speaker 1: plus seven. Rock in a hard Place was Dallas plus
Speaker 1: two and a half. So good for us, sharper square
Speaker 1: were committed to Tomorrow night. I got Houston plus three.
Speaker 1: You got Detroit minus five and a half. Our favorites, Parlay,
Speaker 1: you had the Chiefs minus five and a half. In there,
Speaker 1: we also had Green Bay, Chicago, Denver, the Chargers, Pats,
Speaker 1: and Detroit. So still some options alive here right Underdog
Speaker 1: Parlay Vikings, no Cowboys, yes, Jets, no Falcons, Texans Tomorrow survivor.
Speaker 2: Was chief all right?
Speaker 1: A lot of our views are asking us to please
Speaker 1: blacklist the Chargers and blacklist the Titans.
Speaker 3: Agree, I agree with the Titans.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we can just every week we'll spend a
Speaker 4: minute on their game.
Speaker 2: Hopefully, maybe I'll just start skipping it.
Speaker 3: We're just again every guy every told you every week.
Speaker 4: These guys are my dms. We could start fading the Titans.
Speaker 4: It's a cash cow, don't matter who the coach is, apparently.
Speaker 2: Honest to god, we could just start fading them.
Speaker 1: That should be. That's honestly the play. What are our
Speaker 1: leans for next week?
Speaker 2: Right now?
Speaker 4: Look, you try to be quick just because we're running
Speaker 4: a little late. Just to some numbers that jumped out. Saints.
Speaker 4: They're plus six and a half at home against the Bucks. Again,
Speaker 4: you don't have to grab it if you don't want
Speaker 4: to so early, I could probably see it going up.
Speaker 4: It's just gonna only professionals grabbing the Saints at this point.
Speaker 4: But I just I like that number. It's across the
Speaker 4: keydomer of six, So I am grabbing it. Ravens minus
Speaker 4: six and a half at home against the Bears.
Speaker 3: Yeah, interesting spot.
Speaker 4: It's a Bears team that can't stop the running going
Speaker 4: against with Lamar back, the best running attack.
Speaker 3: In football most likely with Derrick Henry. So interesting spot.
Speaker 3: Bad spot for the Bears.
Speaker 4: Feel like, we can't overthink it, probably should just take
Speaker 4: the Ravens here.
Speaker 3: This is the Ravens line.
Speaker 4: That's it's interesting they opened it so high.
Speaker 1: I'm really surprised they opened it that high because when
Speaker 1: I saw it, I felt like, huh, that's kind of
Speaker 1: line you post when Lamar Jackson has been playing great
Speaker 1: and yeah, and they're four and two coming off of bye.
Speaker 4: We got a Tomlin spot Pittsburgh plus three at home
Speaker 4: against Green Bay.
Speaker 2: Oh goodness, we gotta do that.
Speaker 4: So very interesting to open that plus three because I
Speaker 4: know right away we're gonna grab that. And last one,
Speaker 4: I just can't believe this line Eagles or minus seven
Speaker 4: against the Giants at home. It's the Giants team that
Speaker 4: beat them up not even two weeks ago. Interesting just
Speaker 4: because the Eagles offensive line is not going to be
Speaker 4: healthy and that was a brutal loss for the Giants.
Speaker 4: So the books are kind of showing their hand. You're
Speaker 4: saying that this Giants team, they don't think it's gonna
Speaker 4: react well to that loss.
Speaker 3: I thought that was interesting. So not going to.
Speaker 4: Grab the Eagles yet, but it's if it gets to
Speaker 4: the minus seven and a half I'll be mad that
Speaker 4: I'm kicking myself that I missed the minus seven, but
Speaker 4: definitely definitely like the Eagles on the spot. The line
Speaker 4: looks like simflated. I think that's correctly priced for the
Speaker 4: Sego team against the Giants.
Speaker 1: One of the games that popped to me that I
Speaker 1: tried to bet and it was taken off the board
Speaker 1: for a minute was the Kent City Chiefs five and
Speaker 1: a half against the Commanders. Because it was four and
Speaker 1: a half, I just thought, is Jaden Daniels going to
Speaker 1: be playing? Like yeah, you know, so it felt to
Speaker 1: me like that could be uh potential spot there.
Speaker 3: I like it.
Speaker 4: I saw that again taken down too, and that's why
Speaker 4: I just don't say anything. It's if, it's if, if
Speaker 4: he is down, you know, this can open up way
Speaker 4: above seven. Marry Ota versus Bags defense not not ideal
Speaker 4: for that Washington team.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Uh, what do we think of Cleveland and New England?
Speaker 4: I don't want to get in front New England, be honest.
Speaker 4: But we'll see what they say about Drick Mayer this
Speaker 4: week with practice. I know he obviously doesn't have a concussion.
Speaker 4: He got cleared, but we'll see sometimes symptoms pop back
Speaker 4: up because he got slammed, like his head slammed on
Speaker 4: the field really hard. But that's a Patriots line minus
Speaker 4: six and a half. A couple of books, trit In
Speaker 4: minus went fifteen, minus went twenty on the six and
Speaker 4: a half at home against the Browns, and Chad knows,
Speaker 4: I don't bet Browns on the road. Their defense is
Speaker 4: not travel has not traveled yet this season, So that's
Speaker 4: a that's a nice spot for the Patriots.
Speaker 1: I'm very very very very very tempted by Denver minus
Speaker 1: three at home against Alas.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Man, and it's already hit the minus one twenty, So
Speaker 4: you're on the you're on the professional side. The pros
Speaker 4: are coming in early on Denver. That's probably right.
Speaker 3: I can't I can't do it yet, man, I just
Speaker 3: my god, bo Nicks, I can't trust.
Speaker 2: It's I know, I know it's awful, truly is all right?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 2: Real quickly?
Speaker 1: The Falcons and Niners have kicked off.
Speaker 2: I believe they've kicked off.
Speaker 3: Yeah, forty nine Ers have the ball at midfield.
Speaker 2: In the end.
Speaker 1: I feel like we were kind of split on this.
Speaker 1: I was leaning Niners and you were leaning Falcons.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I bet Falcons just because I just the
Speaker 4: Fred Taylor experiment, can't trust it. But honestly, just after today,
Speaker 4: I'm glad we didn't take this one. I have no
Speaker 4: real read on it either. Forty nine ers like we've
Speaker 4: seen before there when you count them out, you believe
Speaker 4: it on that's users Shanny and shows up and dominates
Speaker 4: these games. So if you like Atlanta, they're plus three
Speaker 4: and a half right now.
Speaker 1: All right, reminder that we have the Texans plus three
Speaker 1: and a half and the Lions minus four and a
Speaker 1: half tomorrow night. Those are the last two games of
Speaker 1: our final five. We are one and two so far.
Speaker 1: On the day we won with the Browns minus two
Speaker 1: and a half, lost with the Titans, and lost.
Speaker 2: With the Chargers.
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