Speaker 1: You're tuned into The Gangster Chronicles, sayings McDonald, Rexi Reich Jr.
Speaker 1: And Alex Tomonso on the Digital Soapbox Network material witness
Speaker 1: on an aggravated battery. I was a hang gun and
Speaker 1: they believe this might be in retaliation to her testimony.
Speaker 1: Good morning, good afternoon, and good evening, and welcome to
Speaker 1: another episode of The Gangster Chronicles. This his episode forty one.
Speaker 1: My name is Alex Alonto from Street Gangs dot Com
Speaker 1: and I'm here with my co host James McDonald, and
Speaker 1: we got a guess and we're just gonna go straight
Speaker 1: into it. Man, we got Adam twenty two from No Jumper.
Speaker 1: What's up? Man? What's happening to? Big fan of the show?
Speaker 1: I don't know if you sawing. Nori told me about
Speaker 1: it on the podcast. Man, everybody d M me that day, man, literally,
Speaker 1: no joke, like fifty d m s within Like was
Speaker 1: he serious? Did somebody tell him to say that? He
Speaker 1: just really like that was really out of the middle
Speaker 1: of nowhere because I didn't even know about it yet
Speaker 1: at that point, So he was he was just amped
Speaker 1: up telling me about the podcast he funk with. So
Speaker 1: I took his recommendation. But I also I'm a person
Speaker 1: who only finished watching The Wire, like a year ago
Speaker 1: or less than a year ago. So when he said
Speaker 1: it's a podcast, it's like The Wire that that got
Speaker 1: to me. I was like, I'm excited for The Wire
Speaker 1: is probably one of the best television shows in the
Speaker 1: history of television. I mean, you go back and binge
Speaker 1: watching Man once you started. Once you're on episode one,
Speaker 1: you ain't gonna stop. It's it was actually a cop
Speaker 1: X game member and it's your classic gangsters and robbers
Speaker 1: and police. But it's dope because it shows like from
Speaker 1: the real perspective of the cops and the perspective of
Speaker 1: like and the first episode the first season is like
Speaker 1: the crack dealers in the hood, but then they get
Speaker 1: into like the people working on the docks who are
Speaker 1: dealing with corruption. In that sense, it deals with a
Speaker 1: lot of different crime. It's not just like because I
Speaker 1: remember I was telling Crocodi about it and he was like, man,
Speaker 1: He's like, I grew up around all that bullshit. I
Speaker 1: don't want to watch a show about that. And I
Speaker 1: was like, I feel you. But then I got the
Speaker 1: second season, two, season three, I'm like, damn, he Actually
Speaker 1: he might be missing out a little more than anythings,
Speaker 1: because it's not just like straight up like this is
Speaker 1: is the Hood the whole time? You know, Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: but just cinematically, it's great to watch it takes place
Speaker 1: I believe Baltimore, right. So yeah, man, Um, I've been
Speaker 1: messing with Nori for over ten years. He's been following
Speaker 1: me on Street Gangs dot Com for years, so I
Speaker 1: wasn't surprised. Nori pretty much likes everything I do. When
Speaker 1: I see him, he quotes me on things that I've said,
Speaker 1: so he loves street ship. He was definitely a Street
Speaker 1: Gangs fan. We gotta give a shout out to him
Speaker 1: because I was shocked to hear that on on on
Speaker 1: your your podcast and the way he was talking. We
Speaker 1: only him. We owe him a flight he missed. He
Speaker 1: missed the flight listening to Games the Chronicles. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah yeah. He told him, you don't know how to
Speaker 1: download it to your phone and listen to it on
Speaker 1: the plane, right, Yeah, he was getting the name. I
Speaker 1: was like, Damn, Buntry is my brother. I'm mom James
Speaker 1: Buntreal and Timmy Route. We're brothers. Reggie Wright and Alex
Speaker 1: and Linzo, but he knew you. Yeah, so that's the
Speaker 1: only name he didn't get wrong. Well, he did kind
Speaker 1: of mess me up a little bit, But yeah, I
Speaker 1: met Nori back in two thousand eight here in Los
Speaker 1: Angeles and we've kept in touch over the years. But
Speaker 1: I know how he felt when he said he missed
Speaker 1: flights because you ever been in your car and you
Speaker 1: get to your destination but your favorite song is still playing.
Speaker 1: She don't get out. You wait till that song is over,
Speaker 1: and then you go to your destination. So I guess
Speaker 1: he caught that on one of our great episodes of
Speaker 1: The Gangster Chronicles. But what's up, Adam? I mean, you
Speaker 1: got you got all all the great guests over there
Speaker 1: on your show. You know you got. You had Nori
Speaker 1: at forty Glock yesterday. Man, I had a lot of
Speaker 1: from Colton, Yeah, Colton City Crib Yeah, c c C.
Speaker 1: I learned a lot about, you know, as somebody who
Speaker 1: was just a straight rap fan until like the age
Speaker 1: of thirty two, I never even had a rapper on
Speaker 1: my phone. It's like it's just been a crazy fast
Speaker 1: education to like meet so many of the people that
Speaker 1: I grew up listening to and ship. You know that
Speaker 1: he got into a shootout with the police before, and
Speaker 1: he told me all about that one, and they didn't
Speaker 1: even press charges on him. I mean, you gotta listen
Speaker 1: to the enemy, I guess if you want to hear
Speaker 1: the story there. But he said that they didn't press
Speaker 1: charges on him. Now, he actually his lawyer hired me,
Speaker 1: wants to help him with his case because I do
Speaker 1: consulting on gang cases. So that's how I met forty o'clock.
Speaker 1: He had a case out in Colton. They needed an expertise,
Speaker 1: my expertise, and I came in and I learned all
Speaker 1: about him. I think that was in ninety six. He
Speaker 1: literally got into a shootout with the police. So how
Speaker 1: did he beat it? I don't remember the specifics of
Speaker 1: that case. I mean that ninety six how many years ago?
Speaker 1: Was at twenty four years ago? You seem like he
Speaker 1: still didn't really understand a hundred percent. But basically, the
Speaker 1: cops shot him and then and then took off from
Speaker 1: the scene of the crime and like left him and
Speaker 1: they ended up catching up with him later and he
Speaker 1: just got shot in the legs. So he was all right,
Speaker 1: this is what he told me yesterday. But like he
Speaker 1: was just saying that. Like they ended up not pressing charges,
Speaker 1: probably because the cops behavior was so inexplicable. Or did
Speaker 1: he looked back then he shoot back at the cops
Speaker 1: or is it just the cops shooting him? I think
Speaker 1: the cops showed up when he was already in the
Speaker 1: middle of a gang shootout. But there was like He's
Speaker 1: like this neighborhood had shootouts like every day, over and over,
Speaker 1: so I don't Yeah. I also had that interview go though.
Speaker 1: That was dope. You know, it's like just to be
Speaker 1: able to you know, actually I got to give Glad
Speaker 1: the tip of the hat because to a certain extent,
Speaker 1: like these old stories that we never wouldn't necessarily thought
Speaker 1: would be so valuable from a you know, viral level
Speaker 1: or whatever. It's like, you know, you you are under
Speaker 1: percent of beneficiary of that where it's like a lot
Speaker 1: of the stories that you might not even realized would
Speaker 1: be so huge on YouTube and ship. You realize that
Speaker 1: these little stories that just give you a little bit
Speaker 1: of detail about death row or pock or whatever, it
Speaker 1: is like gold to a lot of peers out there.
Speaker 1: Myself ain't the only one doing it, right. I feel
Speaker 1: like he through being so shameless kind of like helped
Speaker 1: usher that into a on YouTube to a certain extent,
Speaker 1: because he's not scared to just ask the craziest ship.
Speaker 1: You know, what do you mean by that shameless part? Uh?
Speaker 1: You know it's like to a certain extent, I feel
Speaker 1: glad sometimes he runs the risk like pissing off his
Speaker 1: guests by going so hard with the titles and ship
Speaker 1: like by just being so or just having people and
Speaker 1: you know, he has a certain reputation because he's will
Speaker 1: have people in and ask him like about all the
Speaker 1: ship that to a certain percentage of people just don't
Speaker 1: want to talk about and stuff like I always think
Speaker 1: about that because if you have somebody on you could
Speaker 1: you could go straight for the gut, you know, straight
Speaker 1: for the story that is the craziest fucking story that's
Speaker 1: gonna get a million views, or you know, it's all
Speaker 1: about your interviewing style. Sometimes I feel like I have
Speaker 1: a hard time just going straight forward that because I
Speaker 1: want people to feel comfortable, and I end up and
Speaker 1: just some of those a lot of questions written down
Speaker 1: that I don't even end up wanting to ask because
Speaker 1: I guess had X rated on well that's why you
Speaker 1: you like, I just did you when you come in
Speaker 1: here and I asked everybody you tell you what do
Speaker 1: you not want to talk about? So we don't have
Speaker 1: to cross that line. But if I ask you a question,
Speaker 1: then the doors is open for it. Then that's what
Speaker 1: you're here for. You know what I'm saying, Like when
Speaker 1: I can went on, Lad, I'm here to answer your questions.
Speaker 1: So I'm a grown ass man. I can tell you no,
Speaker 1: I don't want to talk about that. You know, let's
Speaker 1: say that for something else. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: because everybody knows some things are to be I mean,
Speaker 1: you could say some ship, but some things ain't supposed
Speaker 1: to be talked about. You sorry to cut you up,
Speaker 1: but you might have talked about it, Lad, but now
Speaker 1: you don't want some other motherfucker asking you about it.
Speaker 1: You like, I just did an interview telling this crazy story.
Speaker 1: It's kind of rude for you to ask me to
Speaker 1: just reiterate the same exact story. You know you're gonna
Speaker 1: be live. You know this story is gonna get out.
Speaker 1: That's what you're going on, black Folk, and you know
Speaker 1: he's gonna put it on YouTube so you can avoid
Speaker 1: asking anything, I don't have to asker that. I'm here
Speaker 1: to do an interview with you. So if Blad said
Speaker 1: I heard you killed your mother, I mean, just just
Speaker 1: the way a ship just uh you killed your mother,
Speaker 1: I don't have to answer that, but that motherfuck he
Speaker 1: answered it. You can't be mad at mad at Blad
Speaker 1: but for accident, and I askewed it. Where is he
Speaker 1: at that? When people get on this case for that ship,
Speaker 1: I don't think they realized that if you were to say, hey, like,
Speaker 1: don't I want to talk about that? Or if it's
Speaker 1: especially if it's related to a case. That's the whole
Speaker 1: reason I can talk about everything. I don't axatly. When
Speaker 1: he came on against the Chronicles, I asked him the
Speaker 1: same thing before we started taping. Is it anything that
Speaker 1: you don't want to talk about? And I think that's
Speaker 1: only fair if you say no, guys, let me talk
Speaker 1: about whatever you want. In his case, I don't want
Speaker 1: to talk about Woo and I want to talk about
Speaker 1: so we didn't bring that up. So get your pad
Speaker 1: and cross those two outs. But everything, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like asking you and you said you don't
Speaker 1: give a ship, So I got some questions, well before
Speaker 1: you ask your first question. I was just gonna say,
Speaker 1: I think in the hip hop world, Wendy Williams was
Speaker 1: really the first person to really ask those hard questions,
Speaker 1: those cutthroat questions, and a lot of people started to
Speaker 1: dislike her, you know, because I'm not going on Wendy
Speaker 1: Williams and Cala Main was born from her, and you
Speaker 1: know he has that rap as well. But then then
Speaker 1: Wendy Williams transitioned to talk show host and went in
Speaker 1: to tell division and she was doing the radio thing
Speaker 1: before podcasts was even hot. So you know, I think
Speaker 1: that that style of interviewing and questioning in the hip
Speaker 1: hop world. I just think going back to her to
Speaker 1: run into the right person as my ship. You asked
Speaker 1: me something I don't want to talk about it, I ain't.
Speaker 1: I don't want to talk about that. Man, I don't
Speaker 1: care how you interview gonna be. You ain't getting paid
Speaker 1: for these interviews, so why not. But sometimes you'll tell
Speaker 1: the interviewer I don't want to talk about this. I
Speaker 1: mean yeah, and they still ask, Like Barbara Walters was
Speaker 1: known for that. I don't know if you ever I've
Speaker 1: seen uh, Mike tyson go up on somebody for it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm just like, yes, you ain't ship. But that's how
Speaker 1: you gotta be. I already told you I'm not answering that.
Speaker 1: Why would you ask me that here? So that's the
Speaker 1: That's the thing. A lot of us, like me and you,
Speaker 1: I feel like we're probably the same way in the
Speaker 1: sense that like, you can ask me about the messiest
Speaker 1: bullshit that ever having in my life and I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't mind. But a lot of people are trying
Speaker 1: to present a carefully gheraded image of who they are
Speaker 1: to the public, so they don't want to talk about
Speaker 1: some messy situation. They're going, that's cool, But at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, how are you gonna get past
Speaker 1: that ship unless you're willing to talk openly about it. Well,
Speaker 1: don't you find it ironic that Lad actually told us
Speaker 1: there's a couple of things that's off the table, even
Speaker 1: though you just said he's more cutthroat about it. But
Speaker 1: there's some things he didn't want to talk about. But yeah,
Speaker 1: but he does that to other people, but he don't
Speaker 1: want it done to him. But other people don't say, no,
Speaker 1: I don't want to talk about that. I don't want
Speaker 1: to talk about this. Everybody on the platform should ask
Speaker 1: that person they're interviewing, do you mind if we talked
Speaker 1: about this? But when I went and did Glad, there
Speaker 1: was something that I said, you know, I don't want
Speaker 1: to talk about this very specific thing, and he asked
Speaker 1: me about that. To his credit, you know, doing an
Speaker 1: interview is like having sex. You into what you're into.
Speaker 1: It's just both parties have to be involved, that have
Speaker 1: to be have to be on the same page. You know. Alright, James,
Speaker 1: what are you gonna get into him? I forgot, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I wanted my first question and uh, last year, you're
Speaker 1: the robbery, right Uh. I was looking at this video
Speaker 1: and it was it was crazy. And when I first
Speaker 1: thought my first thought about you being robbed, I thought
Speaker 1: this was gonna be a black dude, you know, just
Speaker 1: over you like bam. Right, this this guy that robbed Jews.
Speaker 1: I mean when he asks for he said, keep me
Speaker 1: all your mother money or some ship like that. He said,
Speaker 1: it all crazy and like, you know, before I even
Speaker 1: knew what was going on, my friends beat the ship
Speaker 1: out of him and kicked his head and stuff. I
Speaker 1: believe that if you were to like describe his type
Speaker 1: that it would have been just like basically a crazy ass,
Speaker 1: like lunatic while at school, shooter type kid. Like, it
Speaker 1: became very clear to me, this was not like a gangster,
Speaker 1: this is not a street dude. When did you realize that, dude,
Speaker 1: I'm I mean, once he realized the gun was fake,
Speaker 1: Once he realized like, because you know my dudes, looked
Speaker 1: through his phone and realized that he didn't even have
Speaker 1: any text for like weeks at a time, and Ship,
Speaker 1: I started to like paint the picture of us. I
Speaker 1: went through my d m s through to his Instagram
Speaker 1: account and saw that he had DM me dozens of
Speaker 1: times and I never responded. I started to paint the
Speaker 1: picture for me of like, oh, this is a kid
Speaker 1: who's maybe really depressed and stressed out and like suicidal
Speaker 1: type ship, And he knows that I'm doing interviews and
Speaker 1: that he's thinking maybe maybe I don't know, maybe he
Speaker 1: was on drugs. Maybe he thought that he would be
Speaker 1: able to get some kind of like cloud like people
Speaker 1: would respect him or like him because he did this.
Speaker 1: I don't really know, but I definitely wanted a tough guy. Wow,
Speaker 1: well he had enough balls coming in and try to
Speaker 1: rob you. You did with a fake gun. I don't
Speaker 1: know what he thought was gonna happen, but you think
Speaker 1: he thought he was gonna just keep us all hostage
Speaker 1: in there? Well? Where did this happen at? Actual studio? Yeah,
Speaker 1: right on Melrose. Like, I used to do interviews at
Speaker 1: the back of my bike shop, and now we have
Speaker 1: a different space that we do interviews out of. But
Speaker 1: this was just in the back of the shop, so
Speaker 1: there's only one door really to like enter an exit.
Speaker 1: And my guy had gone out to get the Uber
Speaker 1: eats and I came back in and right before you
Speaker 1: locked the door, this dude just slips in. He had
Speaker 1: been like lurking in the back, you know. And I
Speaker 1: got a mad question for you once your dude knocked
Speaker 1: him out. Why you didn't stump the ship out that cat?
Speaker 1: I never even hit him because my guy, That's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. When I stopped them out, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I wasn't mad, and I wasn't like, I mean, I
Speaker 1: was freaked out. I was confused. I think the first
Speaker 1: thing I said into the microphone because I'm on stream
Speaker 1: so you can see that, I think the first thing
Speaker 1: I said the microphone was why didn't he shoot me?
Speaker 1: You know, because it's like if he had a mission
Speaker 1: that he came in there to do. I thought he
Speaker 1: was gonna actually carry it out, but apparently it was
Speaker 1: all for show. I don't know if he could have
Speaker 1: possibly been in a clear state of mind and thought
Speaker 1: that he was about to have five people held at
Speaker 1: gun point? Was the first time and the good don't
Speaker 1: you like that? Yeah? Yeah, so I know you was like,
Speaker 1: oh what the everybody gave me someone schip? Is that giggled?
Speaker 1: I was like yeah, and I'm saying, Okay, he's scared.
Speaker 1: You're nervous because you're looking at it and at that
Speaker 1: point you don't know it was a fake gun. And
Speaker 1: I'm going like this like trying to create room between
Speaker 1: which it wasn't working. It wasn't working if he didn't pop,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get hit in the hands. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: the head whatever it happened to the guy. Um, I
Speaker 1: don't know, because like they actually called me and had
Speaker 1: me go to court because you know that it's it's
Speaker 1: not like I have to press charges. They just have
Speaker 1: their own case against him or whatever. And I actually
Speaker 1: got up at six in the morning went sat in
Speaker 1: court with this guy because he was there too, for
Speaker 1: like five hours, and then they ended up just dismissed.
Speaker 1: Not dismissing the case, but they basically said like, oh,
Speaker 1: they're not gonna do it today. You don't have anything
Speaker 1: to do, and you don't have to come back the
Speaker 1: next time he has a court date. So I really
Speaker 1: have no idea what's gonna happen to him. By the way,
Speaker 1: his name was David Tran. He was four years old,
Speaker 1: and he was charged with second degree robbery because they
Speaker 1: found the gun was fake. I guess how did that work?
Speaker 1: Got like, um, first degree just coming in there with
Speaker 1: a pistol, Well, it'd be armed robbery. So this would
Speaker 1: be a strong arm robbery if it's a fake gun. Um,
Speaker 1: but he can still get prosecuted for it. But if
Speaker 1: they don't have to witness there none of strong arm
Speaker 1: attempting robbery. Um, Yeah, I don't know how that's gonna work.
Speaker 1: Without you wouldn't call that attempted murder. People get because
Speaker 1: his lawyer will say that that guy never had any
Speaker 1: intention of killing because he came in with a fake gun.
Speaker 1: It's definitely attempted robbery and strong arm attempted robbery if
Speaker 1: it's a fake gun, but there may be some other
Speaker 1: fake gun charges that I'm gonna aware of. I don't know.
Speaker 1: They're not keeping me up to date on maybe well,
Speaker 1: if they've just kind of told you don't come back anymore,
Speaker 1: they're probably not even gonna really pursue that guy then, right,
Speaker 1: It's so weird too, because like the only reason I
Speaker 1: felt it was necessary to keep going is Number one,
Speaker 1: I know other YouTube type famous people that have had
Speaker 1: all kinds of weird ass s. Soccers go to their
Speaker 1: house and just show up ten times, and I've had
Speaker 1: dudes tell me that they didn't press charges the first time,
Speaker 1: or they didn't follow up with the court dates or whatever,
Speaker 1: and the dudes kept coming back. So that kind of
Speaker 1: freaks me out. And then also it's like I had
Speaker 1: so many people that thought that ship was fake, including
Speaker 1: like the cops called me at one point and the
Speaker 1: cop goes, are you familiar with Jesse Smollett's case, And
Speaker 1: I'm just like yes, I'm like yes I am, but no,
Speaker 1: this is not that He's basically warning me, like, if
Speaker 1: you're trying to trick us, you're gonna get a lot
Speaker 1: of trouble. I'm not you know, why would I lie
Speaker 1: about Oh they were trying to say you were with
Speaker 1: this guy? Yeah, I'm like, why would I be in
Speaker 1: cahoots with him? And then like he probably got like
Speaker 1: a terrible head injury from getting his fucking dome kicked in.
Speaker 1: You know, well if if they thought it was fake.
Speaker 1: But I'm sure that general, that video must have got
Speaker 1: at least a million views. Huh. Yeah, And I'm on
Speaker 1: all kinds of weird news to shows, people having me
Speaker 1: on their podcasts, all kinds of ship. But I mean,
Speaker 1: ultimately it actually was kind of weird because I didn't
Speaker 1: really have to deal with any negative side effects. Like
Speaker 1: I didn't get hurt. I didn't you know, dreams like
Speaker 1: Funk could have got killed freaking outsd right, you know
Speaker 1: once did you just like like sitting there and just like, man,
Speaker 1: I could have just if this was real, I could
Speaker 1: have been killed. I'll say this though, is that I
Speaker 1: saw a kid hit his head on a skateboard the
Speaker 1: other day and he was knocked out for twenty minutes,
Speaker 1: and then the ambulance came and took him and he
Speaker 1: was still knocked out. That has me way more fucked
Speaker 1: up than this guy putting a gun in my face,
Speaker 1: because I feel like I saw a kid died the
Speaker 1: other day and his dad has been him and me
Speaker 1: back and saying that he ain't he might be, he's
Speaker 1: gonna be all right whatever, But like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: it didn't really ever impact the way I was moving
Speaker 1: around that much. You know. It's it doesn't feel like,
Speaker 1: oh I got these tough as gangsters that are looking
Speaker 1: for me or whatever. It was just like, oh damn,
Speaker 1: this is one psycho kid, you know. All right, Well,
Speaker 1: I wanted to talk a little bit about your partnership
Speaker 1: with Dame Dash and any updates on that. How's that going?
Speaker 1: You and him, I guess agreed to do a podcast together? Yeah,
Speaker 1: we were doing We did a few different podcasts. I
Speaker 1: think we did my initial interview with him and then
Speaker 1: three additional interviews. I don't know. I mean, Dame is
Speaker 1: an interesting guy, but at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: is I think I felt like I really wasn't making
Speaker 1: any sort of headway and figuring him out or getting
Speaker 1: closer to having a real rapport with him. So I
Speaker 1: don't know, Like myself, on a personal level, I've been
Speaker 1: kind of falling back on doing as many interviews, and
Speaker 1: I say that I'm doing like four interviews this week,
Speaker 1: but I've been falling back on it a little bit
Speaker 1: just to get, you know, be able to focus on
Speaker 1: more of the business, the stuff that my production team
Speaker 1: is producing at this point and stuff. So I'm taking
Speaker 1: a break from that for sure, But I mean being
Speaker 1: part of the Dame universe is definitely informative for sure.
Speaker 1: And a little bit about you. You publicly said you
Speaker 1: paid them for the interview I did, and normally, I
Speaker 1: mean I've do interview I've been doing an interviews for
Speaker 1: ten years. I've never paid a person because I feel
Speaker 1: that crosses the line of ethics and journalism. He said
Speaker 1: it was for the for the driver and the haircut,
Speaker 1: So I was like, you live in luxurious like that?
Speaker 1: All right? Fuck it. I really wanted to meet this motherfucker,
Speaker 1: so I was down for that one. Normally, though, like
Speaker 1: anytime I've had models try to charge me a hundred
Speaker 1: dollars just for their time and makeup, I'm like, no, no,
Speaker 1: no, no no, no no. But do you think we're moving
Speaker 1: into that area now where we gotta pay to do
Speaker 1: interviews now? Because I guess we're in this social media atmosphere.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm scared of it because, like, people like
Speaker 1: me and you have been doing content with no budget
Speaker 1: from the ground up for so long that it's scary
Speaker 1: to see how many celebrities hopping into the podcasting thing
Speaker 1: and thinking like, is there a future in which a
Speaker 1: lot of the organic, smaller YouTube type creators get basically
Speaker 1: pushed out though by the big names. Not that I
Speaker 1: think that will ever entirely happen, because I think that,
Speaker 1: you know, the big corporations will never be able to
Speaker 1: document the you know, streets ship like you do, or
Speaker 1: document some of the underground people like I do, or whatever.
Speaker 1: But sometimes you just see these bigger and bigger names
Speaker 1: getting into the podcast in space or the YouTube space,
Speaker 1: and you're like, damn, is there really going to be
Speaker 1: any room left for the people who came up from nothing? Okay,
Speaker 1: now that I mean, I mean, I mean, I got
Speaker 1: a question you do this ship is your livelihood Is
Speaker 1: you're making money off of the stuff that you're bringing
Speaker 1: in the people that you're interviewing. Why is it hard
Speaker 1: or why would it be a problem to pay the
Speaker 1: person that you're going to do an interview with I'm
Speaker 1: giving you my life story. Take my instance, I got
Speaker 1: thirteen million, Yeah, you got the mo use bla. That's
Speaker 1: a lot of money made. And you don't think that
Speaker 1: I would be worth man at the at the outcast
Speaker 1: then on this you don't think I'm worth I mean,
Speaker 1: if you if you just said people find I did,
Speaker 1: I did well off. Your interviews are interviewing somebody such
Speaker 1: as that person that you know you're gonna do goodbye?
Speaker 1: Why not paying? Lad said that he's paid people because
Speaker 1: he knew that you know, he wasn't gonna get the
Speaker 1: interview otherwise, and that he felt cool about it. I didn't.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, those are your options. Every
Speaker 1: situation is different. Those are your options. If you don't
Speaker 1: want to pay me, move on to the next person.
Speaker 1: But you can't assume that every video is gonna make
Speaker 1: money because YouTube can demonetize like percent. I bet you
Speaker 1: get a lot of videos demonetized, which means get so
Speaker 1: much money that video makes nothing and a lot of
Speaker 1: especially if it's the one that has the title that's
Speaker 1: like so and so talks about having to shoot out
Speaker 1: with so and so and all of a sudden, the
Speaker 1: best title is the one that ain't gonna make any money. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so that's one reason why, because it's not guaranteed that
Speaker 1: the content creator is gonna benefit from that. Okay, So
Speaker 1: should should the interviewer take taking upon himself to say
Speaker 1: I made thirty dollars off off your video? He goes
Speaker 1: after the fact, I mean something because y'all are making
Speaker 1: the money. You know what I'm saying, Like, we're sitting
Speaker 1: here doing this free. We put this on YouTube. We
Speaker 1: we were gonna get a check for it. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Why shouldn't you get a kick? Why
Speaker 1: shouldn't we come to you and say we did good?
Speaker 1: Because you're just looking out for If I take my
Speaker 1: time out to come and deal with you, take your
Speaker 1: time out to say, man, I did real well off
Speaker 1: that one, then I'm gonna come back. Oh no, I'm
Speaker 1: coming back to with you because you're keeping it one hunted. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But a big part of the issue is that there's
Speaker 1: not that much money and it's not that consistent. You know,
Speaker 1: like that thing that rich I did great on that one.
Speaker 1: You're rich rich Man. But I know that if even
Speaker 1: I do an is all the time that I don't
Speaker 1: make five off you know on YouTube don't make sense
Speaker 1: for most. Well, that's why I wouldn't make a phone
Speaker 1: call and say you go three hunting, because why would
Speaker 1: I give you three d only make five? But James,
Speaker 1: you also benefit from being on the platform like lad
Speaker 1: because you get your face and your name out there.
Speaker 1: You've got people now wanting to do business with you,
Speaker 1: so that it's a two way street. Yeah, but that's
Speaker 1: that's not why I did it. I'm not looking for
Speaker 1: a new fame. I'm not looking for nothing. I'm here
Speaker 1: to tell you my story. I might as well just
Speaker 1: sit back and write a book. I don't say nothing,
Speaker 1: But that's the ways, because you want people to hear
Speaker 1: what you got on your chest. But even if you
Speaker 1: write a book, you're gonna have to go promote it,
Speaker 1: and you're gonna go and you all kind of ways,
Speaker 1: all kind of ways. I'm just saying. I'm not saying.
Speaker 1: I'm saying. The reason why it's it's not a great
Speaker 1: economic model to pay for it. Every person that you interview,
Speaker 1: because if I pay you, then the next guy says,
Speaker 1: we just paid James, you're not gonna pay me a
Speaker 1: little something. Well, you're not James. But that's what you
Speaker 1: should wait and see what it does. If it do
Speaker 1: get a yeah, that's what you shouldn't go too. Does
Speaker 1: business like that? You know, just make some money with
Speaker 1: because somebody and then you're like, hey, I'm gonna throws
Speaker 1: because you were there when I made this million good
Speaker 1: it would be really nice. I just never really knew,
Speaker 1: my motherfucker. Just think of the dope man who happened
Speaker 1: to make an extra couple of racks off, and then
Speaker 1: it goes back to that's a difference. Hey, I made
Speaker 1: a little extra, here's something for you that ain't gonna
Speaker 1: happen that that. It's totally on. That's totally up to you.
Speaker 1: How you share you doping all that ship. I'm just
Speaker 1: saying if if I mean I'm getting paid here, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So if Black would have said, Okay,
Speaker 1: I got you, no problem, because men, I'm good, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm being on this show next week. You know you
Speaker 1: expect you expect him to give get nineteen million views. No,
Speaker 1: I don't know. That's it's over and done. But that's
Speaker 1: why I'm speaking on it now. Now. If I go
Speaker 1: up there and set wins and he said, James, I
Speaker 1: did do good off your show here, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, unlike one person, Greg Katie and and he
Speaker 1: didn't do it for the show. It was my birthday,
Speaker 1: but he gave me. He looked out for me because
Speaker 1: it was my birthday. And I'm gonna I'm gonna say
Speaker 1: that because after I did this show, he made what
Speaker 1: eight hundred and some thousand views off of that when
Speaker 1: he did Yeah and that that interview, that Kating interview
Speaker 1: put you on the map to do the lad interview
Speaker 1: and then got me the straight You got me Gangster
Speaker 1: Chronicles the whole now. But guess what's gonna happen to
Speaker 1: me when I called Dame Dash and say hey, I
Speaker 1: want to interview for Street Gangs or Street TV. What's
Speaker 1: he gonna say to me? He's gonna say, hell no,
Speaker 1: who are you? No, He's gonna say, um, five hundred
Speaker 1: dollars or six hundred dollars. I'm like, why, oh, well,
Speaker 1: Adam gave me five hundred dollars, why not? Why not you?
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna be like, all right, what did you know?
Speaker 1: He worked for the I don't think he's worth it.
Speaker 1: You don't think I don't think any interview, and from
Speaker 1: from my perspective, there's no interview worth paying money for.
Speaker 1: From a journalistic perspective, it's just not worth it. You
Speaker 1: know what. The funny thing when Dame asked for that
Speaker 1: five hundred, I took it as throughout my whole life
Speaker 1: of dealing with dudes from the hood, a dude from
Speaker 1: the hood will be very smart about being able to
Speaker 1: feel you out for exactly what you are willing to
Speaker 1: give up and like ask you for it, like you know,
Speaker 1: you know how. This is the dude who will ask
Speaker 1: you for a dollar or five dollars outside the corner
Speaker 1: store or whatever. I saw that as Dame literally he
Speaker 1: don't probably don't need five hundred dollars, but he knew
Speaker 1: I would give him five hundred dollars. He didn't ask
Speaker 1: for two thousand. I might. I really probably would have
Speaker 1: said no to two thousand. He asked for the exact
Speaker 1: right amount that I would give him, and he got it.
Speaker 1: You're a smart guy, and there's done wrong with that.
Speaker 1: And you know what, if you hit up Glad and said, yo,
Speaker 1: let me get a stack before I come and do
Speaker 1: this interview, he'd probably be like, all right, Oh, he
Speaker 1: definitely will do it. I just don't think you're you're
Speaker 1: not as conniving as dam as to like think about
Speaker 1: like I bet I get motherfucker. I'm I'm like this.
Speaker 1: If I come one time, if I come two times,
Speaker 1: and you know it's good, then I think you should
Speaker 1: be willing to look out for that person that's that's
Speaker 1: that's actually putting money in your pocket. Well, someone like
Speaker 1: lad who's willing to pay, will definitely pay you to
Speaker 1: come on there next time. I don't see Black Wednesday
Speaker 1: and I'm not tripping off you know, really not tripping
Speaker 1: off of it. But then I say, damn, we made
Speaker 1: all that I made, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: it's it's it should just throw the air like that,
Speaker 1: And that's how I'll be feeling. But doing this podcast, man,
Speaker 1: it made me realize and see a lot of ship.
Speaker 1: You know, it's politics and this ship. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Do everybody that got these platforms is getting paid,
Speaker 1: But you gotta be willing to look out for the
Speaker 1: people that's that's getting your platform up here. I will
Speaker 1: say that. I'm just I can tell you this, No
Speaker 1: one interview makes or breaks the platform that's where I'm
Speaker 1: speaking on the people in photo people, but go ahead
Speaker 1: and at him. I was just gonna say that, Like,
Speaker 1: from my perspective, if I had never made any of
Speaker 1: the YouTube money, it still would have been worth it
Speaker 1: for me to do all these interviews because I got
Speaker 1: a name off it, I got a lot of respect
Speaker 1: off of it. I met a fucking shipload of people
Speaker 1: that I probably made a lot of money that I
Speaker 1: don't even trace it back in my head to the podcast.
Speaker 1: Like my motivation when I started doing podcast was literally
Speaker 1: like I live in l A and I don't really
Speaker 1: know nobody, and I'm trying to meet you know, I
Speaker 1: was in the BMX world. I'm running bikes making BMX
Speaker 1: videos for ten years, twenty years, and like it was
Speaker 1: that was my whole life. But BMX has a promise
Speaker 1: it's his own world, Like it's not really communicating with
Speaker 1: the outside world that much. None of the bike rider
Speaker 1: dudes that I knew knew any rappers or knew anybody
Speaker 1: from hip hop publication or anything like that. So that's
Speaker 1: really why I started doing podcast, is like I want
Speaker 1: to just have a good excuse to meet people and
Speaker 1: to be and I knew that just from meeting people
Speaker 1: that I'd be able to form some connections that would
Speaker 1: give me where I was going. You know. And there's
Speaker 1: a few rappers that you're the first one to interview him.
Speaker 1: Guess who guests one of the rappers. He's the first
Speaker 1: one to interview. He's the first one to interview this rapper.
Speaker 1: We talked about him on the show many times. Unbelievable, Nah,
Speaker 1: not too pop your boy Takashi sixth Oh my god,
Speaker 1: you got the first to Kashi sixth nine interview, right,
Speaker 1: the realist rapper of all turn. Let me ask you this,
Speaker 1: when you when you were interviewing these rappers and you're
Speaker 1: listening to these guys in the hip hop world, do
Speaker 1: you be do you ever think like this cat is
Speaker 1: full of ship? Not saying it, but just look interview
Speaker 1: year was that when you got him? Shit? I think
Speaker 1: it was or something. I mean, I knew him even
Speaker 1: before that, because I a should remember that when I
Speaker 1: met him had I think fifteen thousand followers we did
Speaker 1: that interview, he had I think sixty thousand followers, and
Speaker 1: I remember the next day, twenty four hours after he
Speaker 1: did the interview, he had seventy thousand followers, and then
Speaker 1: I was like, oh ship, this dude is really he's
Speaker 1: going up fast. But I mean I knew he was
Speaker 1: full of ship. To be honest, It's like the more
Speaker 1: and more interviews that I do, the hard her it
Speaker 1: is sometimes to do an interview with a rapper like
Speaker 1: him who is all bullshit and glitz and polish and
Speaker 1: hair diving. I bet you never thought he would be
Speaker 1: on the Breakfast Club though. I never thought he would
Speaker 1: be saying he was a blood. I never thought he
Speaker 1: would be on the Breakfast Club. I never thought a
Speaker 1: lot of ship, you know. I never thought he'd be
Speaker 1: beefing with y G. You did one interview with a
Speaker 1: guy named Cass Yeah, and he was in the same
Speaker 1: motorcycle club as I. Oh yeah, just listening to just
Speaker 1: just listen to how people you know put theirself here,
Speaker 1: okay me personally keeping one hunting and you will stay
Speaker 1: right here. Ain't nobody that big and getting down like that,
Speaker 1: and then sitting at the table at the round table,
Speaker 1: stopped putting too much on certain things, and and it
Speaker 1: wouldn't be I wanted to come on your show so
Speaker 1: bad when he came on there. But then she get
Speaker 1: all together I know I'm getting an email from him
Speaker 1: about this. Well, I went through the club and you know,
Speaker 1: getting at the president in the Nationals and some of
Speaker 1: the club brothers to tell him to leave, stop talking
Speaker 1: about Reggie, let it go. But he just kept on
Speaker 1: and kept on. So I couldn't tell Reggie to stop.
Speaker 1: Reggie winning many times, many times, but he went in
Speaker 1: on him so hard. I think it he backed up.
Speaker 1: I think has backed up off of how hard Reggie
Speaker 1: and it seemed like he disappeared, it was all over
Speaker 1: with and then now he's coming back. So by Reggie again,
Speaker 1: Reggie is gone, you know what I'm saying. So I
Speaker 1: know he'll be back on your show. And he called
Speaker 1: this ship something else now and ain't too many people
Speaker 1: watching him because Reggie. It's like Reggie black Baldy was something.
Speaker 1: Reggie destroyed that they had this little internet online beef.
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna have to give Reggie the title for
Speaker 1: for that beef. Uh. He went in thoroughly went in
Speaker 1: on him, well, exposed basically the exactly the only it
Speaker 1: was easy because he was lying. The only thing I
Speaker 1: said he was lying about and I don't believe it's
Speaker 1: when he went in there with the fifteen Death Row members,
Speaker 1: and he went and took tupac shit. For number one,
Speaker 1: it ain't gonna happened like that. You beat the Reggie
Speaker 1: and Ship at the same time, then you went and
Speaker 1: went through fifteen cats just you three. Hey, A lot
Speaker 1: of people don't understand how Death Row was man and
Speaker 1: how vicious it was. And I can give you names
Speaker 1: of every motherfucker, but I ain't that that worked for
Speaker 1: Death Row. And they was all vicious, all penitentiary cats,
Speaker 1: and all of them been in penitentiary more than four
Speaker 1: or five times. All of them was over to forty
Speaker 1: two fifty muscle muscle, and I'm talking about all that
Speaker 1: didn't give a fuck, worked for a bonus. If I
Speaker 1: get this cat, they know they got a bonus. If
Speaker 1: I knock out this cat, they got a bonus. And
Speaker 1: I didn't see him going nowhere around Death Row and
Speaker 1: and and taking it down like that. M I didn't
Speaker 1: see that. So it was like, did you get any
Speaker 1: feedback from that CAS interview after you did it? Negative
Speaker 1: feedback about because he did say some very outlandish things
Speaker 1: in that interview. I don't know. I feel like I
Speaker 1: might have been checked out on the feedback to it.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I feel like I get you know, obviously it
Speaker 1: could get a little complicated. I'd be interviewing people. I
Speaker 1: definitely had Whack on the phone with me the other day,
Speaker 1: not happy about him being a frequent topic of conversation
Speaker 1: with a lot of people I've been interviewing lately. You know,
Speaker 1: it's always it's always complicated, but you know, to a
Speaker 1: certain extent, I just kind of stay out of it,
Speaker 1: right right. Well, we went into that that big Cas
Speaker 1: issue in depth on a previous episode of The Gangster Chronicles.
Speaker 1: I think if you go back to around episode twenty
Speaker 1: for those of you who are new to The Gangster Chronicles,
Speaker 1: you can learn some more about the beef that Reggie
Speaker 1: Wright Jr. And Cars had online. How much check that out?
Speaker 1: I need to. It was for real. And then I'm
Speaker 1: you know, my old thing is I wrote motorcycles with him.
Speaker 1: He came to he started at my chapter in Vegas,
Speaker 1: and I'm thinking, I'm not I know this guy, and
Speaker 1: why would he say something like that? Why is he
Speaker 1: talking like that? Me and him never discussed me working
Speaker 1: with death or being you know, homeboys would shoot, none
Speaker 1: of that. You know, he was always cats from the
Speaker 1: sixties or I've been to prison. You can look at
Speaker 1: him to say, Okay, you probably have you tat it,
Speaker 1: YadA YadA. But you know, I just think some people
Speaker 1: just just go a little over with it, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, and not knowing who you really fucking with,
Speaker 1: who you talking to, and who you know, so you
Speaker 1: quick to speak on ship and all these people know
Speaker 1: the same I'm talking about. I'm always fascinated by like
Speaker 1: the gang ship and the motorcycle ship touching because like
Speaker 1: where I'm from in the Northeast, Like I ain't really
Speaker 1: like blood and crips and fucking New Hampshire and Boston
Speaker 1: and ship as far as I know, but the motorcycle
Speaker 1: do is all the scariest dudes where I'm from. For sure.
Speaker 1: We was in one of the prettiest, roughest in California
Speaker 1: to chosen few, Okay, we we we had our share
Speaker 1: of bullshit b as the whole nine, and we rode
Speaker 1: out bikes like we didn't give up about nothing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so we're gonna have to talk about that one time.
Speaker 1: I mean, Laconia, New Hampshire is where they do the
Speaker 1: bike races or whatever. It always you wouldn't know because
Speaker 1: you would see a thousand motherfucker's on Harley's coming down
Speaker 1: the highway at the same time that she was crazy.
Speaker 1: Growing up. I'm surprised at how many police officers are
Speaker 1: actually in a lot of these motorcycle clubs. Yeah, well
Speaker 1: me personally, and you couldn't. You were cool, but you
Speaker 1: ain't gonna be in my circle. Because when I was
Speaker 1: in the motorcycle club and and we had police officers
Speaker 1: in Vegas, Hey, hey, what's up? We called you, But
Speaker 1: father has been in my circle. Now you can't. You
Speaker 1: can't open the club right here. You ain't gonna open
Speaker 1: the club over there. So but right now to day,
Speaker 1: they're all cool and they and they all all accepted.
Speaker 1: Everybody deal with him. You know what I'm saying. Police
Speaker 1: are just like us, man. But just in two thousand eleven,
Speaker 1: the Chosen Few were part of a police takedown investigation.
Speaker 1: Always Ship Always We was on a hunt in and
Speaker 1: eight right down the street from the police station and
Speaker 1: Chosen you've been there for a long time. You had guys,
Speaker 1: one of my brothers standing up at the gate and
Speaker 1: popping off his pistol. You know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: This is what they had to deal with on that block.
Speaker 1: You know, our laws don't give a fuck. So you
Speaker 1: had all these guys standing out on the park I
Speaker 1: do on the sidewalk, smoking weed, drinking, the the noise,
Speaker 1: the music on the bikes, and they got tired of it.
Speaker 1: So you know, some brothers was getting raided and going
Speaker 1: to jail. They started finding the drugs and all that
Speaker 1: other ship. So we had to shut that that that
Speaker 1: club I was down, and the trouble just followed. My
Speaker 1: my chapter had issues. You know, a cat was killed.
Speaker 1: You know in my chapter. He was one of my
Speaker 1: club brothers, and and he wasn't crazy, he was his
Speaker 1: army cat, and he really had problems. And ship happened,
Speaker 1: and you know, the police were just on us. It
Speaker 1: was just on this. Eventually, Cas was either kicked out
Speaker 1: or left chosen. You know what, I ain't gonna say
Speaker 1: kicked out. I think he did what idea, walked away
Speaker 1: because the bullshit just continued, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And now that they ain't taking off or shooting at
Speaker 1: this motorcycle club, we're doing each other. Now. I just
Speaker 1: left that type of ship, so it's time to go.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to prison behind no half of punks
Speaker 1: or nothing else. So it was time for me to go.
Speaker 1: But I mean, it's it's it's something totally different than
Speaker 1: what it what it used to be. My powers was
Speaker 1: a chosen people for forty years. You got forty years
Speaker 1: in the same club. So children definitely go back to
Speaker 1: the forties and fifties. But back to the you know,
Speaker 1: he's in the news today. He's trying to get out,
Speaker 1: trying to get out right now. So why I didn't
Speaker 1: let him out. Well, he's still got to do is
Speaker 1: twenty four months, which will have him out in July
Speaker 1: of but he's trying to get out earlier than that.
Speaker 1: He's blood is gonna ki him ji, Yeah, he said.
Speaker 1: The lawyer fouled the motion said, it's it's unsafe for him.
Speaker 1: Even though he's in a private he's in a private
Speaker 1: federal prison. If you look him up on the BP website,
Speaker 1: he doesn't come up. They put him in a private
Speaker 1: facility that you can't even see his name, you can't
Speaker 1: even see when his release date is. I feel like
Speaker 1: when you got the million dollars lawyers, that they're just
Speaker 1: doing whatever they can that might have a tiny chance
Speaker 1: of getting you out or whatever. So they're just making
Speaker 1: up some bullshit trying to get him out of there,
Speaker 1: even though he probably doing that for the money, because yeah,
Speaker 1: I found this motion for you's gonna cause you forty grand.
Speaker 1: Every every motion they found, they're getting paid for it.
Speaker 1: I said on this show a couple of weeks ago
Speaker 1: that even though July is twenty four months as a
Speaker 1: release date, you'll probably get out sooner than that from
Speaker 1: taking advantage of a federal program or like this lawyer
Speaker 1: is trying to file emotions for him to come home now,
Speaker 1: and they might have to let him out because he
Speaker 1: worked for the government. He gave them what they wanted,
Speaker 1: and now he's saying, hey, I don't want to be
Speaker 1: in here. It's not safe. They there's a whole bunch
Speaker 1: of them that did that, and they got places for
Speaker 1: motherfucker's that told on the next cat they're gonna put
Speaker 1: you in the old somewhere and shut you on the
Speaker 1: yard with He just want to go home. No, hey, no,
Speaker 1: you he's gonna get out sooner than July. No, you shouldn't.
Speaker 1: You shouldn't. I already going back to New York. If
Speaker 1: he go back to the Bronx. Then, man, it's all
Speaker 1: watered down. I mean, the whole thing is that when
Speaker 1: he was because I think about it, I got a
Speaker 1: store on Melrose. We interviewed this motherfucker when he's like
Speaker 1: basically nobody. Less than a year later, he is sucking
Speaker 1: down Melrows with like nine fucking security guards, like three
Speaker 1: thousand pounds worth of men around this motherfucker. He got
Speaker 1: real cops with guns and ship like, and you know,
Speaker 1: by that point that actually was a reasonable security precaution,
Speaker 1: Like there really were a million I've had. People won't
Speaker 1: tell me, but people tell me, like yo, like people
Speaker 1: were really like this dude was really driving around like
Speaker 1: looking for him, blah blah blah. This dude's crazy, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, I just wonder what that's gonna look like
Speaker 1: when he gets out, Like is he gonna like how
Speaker 1: is he gonna be able to get by with that
Speaker 1: amount of security? Does he need that? Like this has
Speaker 1: been bizarre. Well, in Brooklyn, he's definitely gonna need it.
Speaker 1: But I think he can come to Hollywood and pretty
Speaker 1: much he's such a dickhead if he stays in Brooklyn,
Speaker 1: like at least go out to Long Island is something
Speaker 1: you don't think you're gonna be able to come here.
Speaker 1: He had to fight an r A X one time. Yea,
Speaker 1: who the l he ain't he ain't, he ain't gonna
Speaker 1: do that? And now who whoever? W do you tell
Speaker 1: him you can't hang out like that no more? I
Speaker 1: wonder what his attitude is going to be, because if
Speaker 1: I were him, you know, you can go get a
Speaker 1: house in Miami with a bunch of security or something
Speaker 1: and get away from everybody. But I don't know if
Speaker 1: he's got the if he's humble enough to realize maybe
Speaker 1: you shouldn't be around all the hot spots. You got
Speaker 1: a chance of getting the first interview of him when
Speaker 1: he gets out, if you would take it, if you
Speaker 1: do it, because he don't sunk with me at a
Speaker 1: certain point, because I just kind of stopped talking to him,
Speaker 1: like we we did that interview, and then he tried
Speaker 1: to hit me up a few times, and I wasn't
Speaker 1: really working with him, and I think he always like
Speaker 1: I didn't like the fact that I like embraced him
Speaker 1: enough to do that interview, but I kept my distance
Speaker 1: because you know, I just thought he was a fucking dork,
Speaker 1: you know, so if you got that, would you do
Speaker 1: an interview? I would do the interview, but I'd be
Speaker 1: hyper hyper critical. It's not gonna be a nice interview.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be like, let's talk about all this bitch
Speaker 1: as like you know, we're really gonna have to talk
Speaker 1: about it. Like I feel like he would rather go
Speaker 1: do an academics interview because academics is a friend of me,
Speaker 1: and you know, like because Takashi sapped me being cool
Speaker 1: with me, like just because I didn't I didn't like
Speaker 1: fully accept him. You know. I did the interview, but
Speaker 1: I knew him for like six months before I did
Speaker 1: that interview, and he was hitting me up NonStop for
Speaker 1: the interview, and I was ignoring him. I only did
Speaker 1: the interview because he had that song popping off a
Speaker 1: trippy red and he was like just starting to actually
Speaker 1: really get popping, and I actually felt like all people
Speaker 1: are working with him. So I did the interview, but
Speaker 1: then I didn't really like embrace him like that, and
Speaker 1: then he after that he never acknowledged me. Anything I
Speaker 1: would say about him. He wouldn't respond because I think
Speaker 1: he knew that like once he got really big that
Speaker 1: any sort of interaction with me would only help me,
Speaker 1: So he never would even respond when I wasn't like
Speaker 1: going crazy talking about him, but I would say, honest
Speaker 1: that shit about him. I would never get a response
Speaker 1: because I think he knew that, like just by talking
Speaker 1: with me, that would be like a gift, because he
Speaker 1: was so big that he was just anybody who had
Speaker 1: anything to do with him was getting the hell of
Speaker 1: followers and etcetera. You know, you don't think he'll come
Speaker 1: out more humble this time, considering he's an informant. He's
Speaker 1: gotta walk on eggshells. He's gotta be careful where he goes.
Speaker 1: I've never seen a rapper come out and do a
Speaker 1: good job of like represent in themselves after they go
Speaker 1: and do a bunch of hot shting courts. So I
Speaker 1: don't know what the fund is gonna look like. I'm
Speaker 1: excited to see it from like a you know, from
Speaker 1: like a perspective of a guy who like watches movies
Speaker 1: and watching this six nine movie unfold in front of us,
Speaker 1: and I'm just interested to see, like how can he
Speaker 1: possibly pull this role off? So I don't know, I
Speaker 1: don't see it happening. Getting out of jail, sitting at
Speaker 1: a table, pointing and telling you got cash doing twenty
Speaker 1: years you got the homies is in the beds because
Speaker 1: of you. You can't go back to Yeah, you can't
Speaker 1: go back in that circle. You go back in this circle.
Speaker 1: One of those guys gonna do something to you. Man.
Speaker 1: And and I hove that little boy. Go buy has
Speaker 1: been Just go somewhere and find another place. And and
Speaker 1: don't be childish with this one because when you get out,
Speaker 1: he's gonna have to go somewhere. But it ain't right.
Speaker 1: There ain't nobody that humble. Well, that guy Alpo, I
Speaker 1: don't know if you're familiar with Alpo from back in
Speaker 1: the eighties. He came back to New York, came back
Speaker 1: to Harlem. This guy told on a whole bunch of people,
Speaker 1: but he kind of kept yeah, keep it love. He
Speaker 1: kept a low profile, but he definitely showed himself to
Speaker 1: say I'm here. But he's careful about how he moves.
Speaker 1: But you know, his his crimes are what twenty five
Speaker 1: years ago? Twenty years ago. So a lot of those
Speaker 1: dudes are probably not around anymore. But let me remind
Speaker 1: everybody that you're listening to an episode of the Gangster
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Speaker 1: produced by Smooth Cut Productions and Adam what's next for you, man,
Speaker 1: We're just getting into a lot more sophisticated, advanced content
Speaker 1: that goes beyond just the interviews. That's how I would
Speaker 1: describe it. Like basically we're working on like what our
Speaker 1: version of the news looks like. We got a partnership
Speaker 1: with Snapchat that we're working on where it's basically going
Speaker 1: to be producing a lot of like news and conversation
Speaker 1: about news on a level that we haven't done so far,
Speaker 1: and just trying to you know, we're moving into a
Speaker 1: new space, just trying to really like reevaluate and like
Speaker 1: I just did a week off in Mexico, just laying
Speaker 1: on the beach, just thinking about my content. And I
Speaker 1: came back and I was like, you know, we were
Speaker 1: doing the thing where we were posting were posting music
Speaker 1: video on the channel for a couple of thousand dollars, right.
Speaker 1: I was just I can't. I was sitting there on
Speaker 1: the beach. I'm like, I don't want to do that
Speaker 1: bullshit anymore. You know, it's not worth it, like just
Speaker 1: to make thirty dollars a month off of posting music videos.
Speaker 1: But I don't feel good about looking at my YouTube
Speaker 1: channel and knowing that there's a bunch of ship on
Speaker 1: there that people just paid to be there, you know.
Speaker 1: I was just like, I got back from the thing
Speaker 1: and I'm like, you know, I don't give a funk
Speaker 1: about the money, and we're not doing that anymore. I
Speaker 1: want every time somebody sees a piece of content go
Speaker 1: up on on the YouTube channel, I want them to
Speaker 1: really know that's something that we believe in. Because some
Speaker 1: of those videos, you don't even probably like them, I
Speaker 1: don't even probably watch them. Watch how many subscribers do
Speaker 1: you have to get before you start getting the attention
Speaker 1: from corporate America? You mentioned Snapchat and other other groups.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, we're at three point two million,
Speaker 1: but I mean I always had, you know, different levels
Speaker 1: of attention and stuff. Even when I had a couple
Speaker 1: hundred thousands subscribers. You know, I was having you know,
Speaker 1: but there's so much you gotta say no to everything.
Speaker 1: You know, you gotta just keep saying no. It all
Speaker 1: the cornina ship that people try to throw you. In
Speaker 1: the beginning, I remember there was just a TV producer,
Speaker 1: dudeho came to me. He wanted to do like a
Speaker 1: reality show about my store of my life and ship.
Speaker 1: And I was, you know, I'm talking on and stuff.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm kind of agreeing to at least enter
Speaker 1: into some preliminary talks and ship. He's like, all right,
Speaker 1: I gotta come by your show. I gotta take some
Speaker 1: pictures of you. I'm like allright. Bet. He goes, um,
Speaker 1: can you take your shirt off? I'm like no. He's
Speaker 1: like why not. I'm like, because I ain't doing that
Speaker 1: gass ship. I ain't taking my fucking shirt off for
Speaker 1: a photo in my own bike shop. And I'm just thinking,
Speaker 1: I'm like, holy sh it, this is what corporate America
Speaker 1: tries to do to you. They just try to make
Speaker 1: you the most bastardized, lamest version of who you actually
Speaker 1: are because they don't understand who you are, and and
Speaker 1: it's not like you know, in context, it's all kind
Speaker 1: of I see rappers walking down Melrose with no shirt
Speaker 1: on all the time. But you know, for me, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna go beat and especially I was fatter than
Speaker 1: so I really didn't want to take my shirt off.
Speaker 1: But like you know, it's just like all the corporate ship.
Speaker 1: Like I was, I was listening to Joe Buddy. He's
Speaker 1: talking about he turned down ten million dollar deals first
Speaker 1: podcast on the Ship. I'm like, that's that's beautiful. That
Speaker 1: to me, if you can get to the point where
Speaker 1: you believe in the ship that you're making so much
Speaker 1: that you can turn down ten million dollars, Wow, that's
Speaker 1: a beautiful thing. And I have so much respect for that,
Speaker 1: so much pride even just hearing that, knowing that somebody
Speaker 1: in this culture was in a position to turn down
Speaker 1: a big gas media company trying to give him that bag.
Speaker 1: You know, well, you recently posted the video if you're
Speaker 1: doing some of your BMX riding, and it seems like
Speaker 1: the people missed it. They really loved it. It seemed
Speaker 1: to me the reaction to that video was basically just saying,
Speaker 1: we don't like a lot of the other stuff you've
Speaker 1: been posting at them. This is where, this is what
Speaker 1: we love. And that video got how many views? It's
Speaker 1: like a quarter million, but it's only in a few days. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's pretty good, just for a couple of days, quarter
Speaker 1: million views. I think I forget that, Like, my audience
Speaker 1: is not an audience that only wants to see hip hop.
Speaker 1: I feel like they want to see the culture overall.
Speaker 1: They want to see the BMX riding and the skateboarder
Speaker 1: and the graffiti and the the wild ass girls talking
Speaker 1: about that, porno movies and like all kinds of ship.
Speaker 1: You know. It's like, like people appreciate our content, I
Speaker 1: think when it gives them this like an overall fun
Speaker 1: experience of watching it. So that's a big part of
Speaker 1: I feel like in nineteen I just doubled down on
Speaker 1: doing interviews because I was like, you know what, I
Speaker 1: make the most money doing interviews. Interviews of the thing
Speaker 1: that I can do the most of because I can
Speaker 1: go and do three four interviews in a day, and
Speaker 1: but at the end of the day, you know, I
Speaker 1: was getting turned out, like doing too many interviews I
Speaker 1: didn't give a shit about, but you know at the
Speaker 1: same time. You know that the other day I did
Speaker 1: forty Glock and O G. Maco Like I got three
Speaker 1: million subscribers. A lot of my subscribers are not gonna
Speaker 1: give a funk about either of those people, But to
Speaker 1: me as a hip hop fan, they both have very
Speaker 1: very interesting stories, very interesting perspectives. I wanted to hear
Speaker 1: Forty talk to me about running down applies, which got
Speaker 1: exposed by Jamie Foxx. I don't know if you remember
Speaker 1: the story. He just he pulled up on flies on
Speaker 1: like to test him about some ship I don't even
Speaker 1: know what it was, and plies ran and hitting the
Speaker 1: bathroom and locked the doors on the bathroom and like.
Speaker 1: But nobody ever knew until Jamie fox talked about it
Speaker 1: in an interview, Which is just so funny that Jamie
Speaker 1: Foxx is the reason that anybody even knows about forty
Speaker 1: Glock doing some gamester shipped applies. But I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: I was just happy as fun to actually be able
Speaker 1: to ask him about that and get to hear is
Speaker 1: his version of that account, you know, Like, I mean,
Speaker 1: I just for me, I was like a hip hop fan.
Speaker 1: It's like I was trying not to get jaded from
Speaker 1: the fact that I just had so much fun talking
Speaker 1: to people about whatever. You like to interview gangster stuff
Speaker 1: as well. I like it, not exclusively, and I definitely
Speaker 1: feel out of my depths a lot of times with
Speaker 1: that ship, because that's just not like where I'm coming from,
Speaker 1: you know. I always like ship when I got a
Speaker 1: security guard who just knows all the street politics in
Speaker 1: l A. That's the best is somebody you can just ask, like, so,
Speaker 1: what's up with those? You know? You interviewed a guy
Speaker 1: that I I got his first interview ever done, stupid
Speaker 1: young That was a great kid right there. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: interviewed him like two thousand and thirteen before anybody kne
Speaker 1: who this dude was because he was like a different
Speaker 1: rapper and like two twelve, two thirteen, he was very
Speaker 1: much like Chicago influenced, like Chief Keith, like an Asian
Speaker 1: Chief Keith and Long Beach, and it was just something
Speaker 1: about him. I said, you know what, I'm gonna come
Speaker 1: down to Long Beach and mess with you. Um. I
Speaker 1: like your swag, I like your style. And then I
Speaker 1: did a second interview with him, still nobody knew he was.
Speaker 1: He went to prison, got out I did the interview
Speaker 1: as soon as he got out of prison and did
Speaker 1: another interview with him, and then right after that he
Speaker 1: just blew up. Yeah, that ship was crazy because I
Speaker 1: lived in Long Beach about two three blocks from where
Speaker 1: he lived and where we filmed that video for from
Speaker 1: two thousand ten to like two thousand and thirteen. I
Speaker 1: just lived over there. We lived in a big gass
Speaker 1: house with like ten thirteen BMX riders living under one roof.
Speaker 1: And yeah, and we were just out riding BMX every day.
Speaker 1: And I did not know that there was Cambodian gang
Speaker 1: wars going on around the corner. That's a little Cambodia. Um, James,
Speaker 1: what did you want to know? I wanted to talk
Speaker 1: about I've seen when I was doing my little little
Speaker 1: information thing. Who was Russ? Somebody like jumped you. You
Speaker 1: know they just say Russ right now? No, that'd be
Speaker 1: that would be a fire story. Trustal Simmons wants to
Speaker 1: get me set up. Now. That was just basically like
Speaker 1: there's a rapper that we're cool. Now, we worked through ships,
Speaker 1: talked about or whatever. This is rapper Russ. He's like,
Speaker 1: uh was the Albanian so he you know, he's from Atlanta.
Speaker 1: He's cool, like he makes music is super popular. It's not.
Speaker 1: It's definitely not gangster music or anything like that. He's singing.
Speaker 1: He's like a lot of his fan bases, like college
Speaker 1: kids and ship like that. And I was talking wild
Speaker 1: Shot about him for a while at the y well
Speaker 1: completely unrelated to to that, well related, but I didn't know.
Speaker 1: One day, randomly, I'm just sitting getting a manicure on
Speaker 1: the block of Melrose. I don't know if you've ever
Speaker 1: got your nails done, James, but no, you gotta try it.
Speaker 1: So I'm I'm sitting there get my nails done, and
Speaker 1: I know where I'm knowing. I'm on Melrose, which is
Speaker 1: my block at that moment, and I got my hood on,
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, you know, facing away from the
Speaker 1: door so I can get my nails now. Much in retrospect,
Speaker 1: I probably should have been facing towards the door so
Speaker 1: that I could see the threat coming. But I thought
Speaker 1: if I was facing away from it, nobody would even
Speaker 1: think that I was in there at all. And all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, I just here Adam twenty two, and
Speaker 1: I go like this, and there's some big black dude
Speaker 1: and he, oh, it just punches me in the head.
Speaker 1: You only like kind of hit me right here and
Speaker 1: didn't really like get me or anything. And then I
Speaker 1: think I got hit again on the top of the head,
Speaker 1: and then i'm you know, by the time I jump up,
Speaker 1: they're out. I didn't see anybody filming. I didn't have
Speaker 1: any fucking clue. So I'm asking everybody I know in
Speaker 1: l a yo, like, who the funk has a problem
Speaker 1: with me? Who who would have done that? You know,
Speaker 1: nobody got any fucking answers. So when actually the guy
Speaker 1: he was talking about it was just people, it was yes.
Speaker 1: But then I didn't find that out for like a year,
Speaker 1: and randomly Russ is on DJ Academics his live stream
Speaker 1: and he said something like that, motherfucker, I'm twenty two
Speaker 1: got it too, and but like the stream fucked up
Speaker 1: so you couldn't really hear exactly what he's saying. But
Speaker 1: academics hit me up and goes yo. Russ said this
Speaker 1: because the academics, I only told a couple of people
Speaker 1: that I got jumped. I told like x Lad and
Speaker 1: fucking academics, just like three random people I confided in
Speaker 1: that I just mentioned it too and hit me. He goes, Yo,
Speaker 1: that thing you told me about where you got jumped
Speaker 1: in in the nail salon. He's like, I think that
Speaker 1: was about the thing with Russ and I'm I started
Speaker 1: thinking about it. I'm like, oh, man, that makes a
Speaker 1: lot of sense. And I started thinking about and at
Speaker 1: first I wasn't gonna say anything cause I'm like, nobody
Speaker 1: knows like I jumped, so I don't even have to
Speaker 1: say anything. Nobody even knows I got. I got punked up,
Speaker 1: and then I started thinking about more and more. I
Speaker 1: got mad and I was like, I just called him out.
Speaker 1: Me and him are arguing about it on Twitter or whatever.
Speaker 1: But then actually Bootleg keV got us on the phone
Speaker 1: and we just kind of talked about it and ended
Speaker 1: up just sort of squashing it or whatever. I'll admit
Speaker 1: I was being a bully. I was going in on
Speaker 1: this motherfucker, and I didn't really have a reason to
Speaker 1: be doing it. So in retrospect, you know, I don't
Speaker 1: really like do that with rappers anymore. If if if there's
Speaker 1: a rapper, I don't like. I've just seen too many
Speaker 1: generations of young rappers coming up that even if there's
Speaker 1: a rapper I don't like. I just kind of hold
Speaker 1: my tongue let him do his thing. Was up and
Speaker 1: coming rapper at the time. To be honest, he was
Speaker 1: already pretty established, like he's been big for a couple
Speaker 1: of years now, so but I definitely didn't think he
Speaker 1: was gonna send some hitters at me. So shout out
Speaker 1: to him actually, honestly for catching me slacking up. You
Speaker 1: think he tracked you down or it was just coincidental
Speaker 1: that you were at the same spot. I mean, to
Speaker 1: be real, it was so stupid on my part. That
Speaker 1: was the worst day to be doing that because it
Speaker 1: was a day where we had an event where on
Speaker 1: social media you could tell that I was at my
Speaker 1: store all day, but when I was actually at the store,
Speaker 1: i'll be surrounded by a whole shipload of my people
Speaker 1: and everything. But then I actually snuck off by myself
Speaker 1: to go to the nail salon, which is stupid. I
Speaker 1: should have had one of my guys come with me.
Speaker 1: I don't know what the funk I was thinking and
Speaker 1: thinking that I didn't need to have somebody come with me.
Speaker 1: But so do you move differently now since you had
Speaker 1: that incident and then you had the fake gun incident, right, James,
Speaker 1: You gotta be careful how you move. It's weird though.
Speaker 1: It's like I go everywhere just like, who would you
Speaker 1: come here with today? And I actually thought you just
Speaker 1: gonna bring a bodyguard with you. I just don't. It's
Speaker 1: so hard for me to accept being famous, and I
Speaker 1: just don't want to admit it, you know, I just
Speaker 1: I'll go to rolling out and bring a bodyguard. Not
Speaker 1: even I don't even bring a bodyguard, bring my homie.
Speaker 1: It just happens to be a big fat guy from
Speaker 1: fucking Long Beach. You know. It's like, I just I
Speaker 1: don't fucking I don't know. It's like it's hard for
Speaker 1: me to really get into that mindset of thinking that
Speaker 1: somebody's gonna really want to suck me up. And I
Speaker 1: don't know. I actually saw you in the airport about
Speaker 1: three months ago and we were in the same term.
Speaker 1: When I said, what's up at him? You didn't even
Speaker 1: look up at me. ACTU was like, all right, this
Speaker 1: dude is he's just not feeling it right now? Oh man,
Speaker 1: that sucks. Yeah. The airport's always a weird one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm just like sucking half out of my mind,
Speaker 1: like just trying. I always feel so ugly and like
Speaker 1: hoodie up, just like I was with my girls. Somebody
Speaker 1: to ask her for a photo and I just see
Speaker 1: it in her eyes, like I'm supposed to be known
Speaker 1: for looking good on camera and you're asking me for
Speaker 1: a photo right now. But damn, I feel like I
Speaker 1: always like say what up to people? So my apologies
Speaker 1: if I didn't hear it or some ship now you
Speaker 1: heard it, you just didn't even look at me. It
Speaker 1: was early in the morning to was about seven seven
Speaker 1: eight am. Yeah, I don't do good like Adam and
Speaker 1: feeling it right now. Yeah, that's crazy. I was probably
Speaker 1: just trying to go to the Hudson News. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: gets now. I like the lemonade in the airport. That's
Speaker 1: the l a X thing if you know, you know no, um,
Speaker 1: I could smell the Roman air. James Jesus and uh,
Speaker 1: you're pretty big on your A big proponent. Is it
Speaker 1: fair to say you're a proponent of we cannabis here
Speaker 1: in California, legalization all that? Yeah, I mean I supported
Speaker 1: all that. I'm just like a personal weed smoker, to
Speaker 1: be honest, I don't really feel like I'm all that
Speaker 1: up in the marijuana community necessarily start looking at your shows.
Speaker 1: And I seen you with this jar, and you from
Speaker 1: them with this jar. I said, like, mother, Now, why
Speaker 1: would I go animal because I don't smoke weed? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he hid in the motherfucking He's gonna start smoking
Speaker 1: and stuff while we're talking, and then I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: all twisted. You actually get high when you do your
Speaker 1: interviews sometimes, but right now the place where we do interviews,
Speaker 1: we can't smoke weed. And only two people have broken
Speaker 1: that role, which is blue Face, because I just you
Speaker 1: can't tell blue Face not smoke, and then uh, Nori,
Speaker 1: you can tell Nori not smoke either, so um our
Speaker 1: next space. Yeah, you know, it's important to me that
Speaker 1: our guests feel comfortable. For the most part, I'm not
Speaker 1: really gonna smoke if the other person isn't smoking. But
Speaker 1: also like just a little bit, like I had this,
Speaker 1: I let this two times so far, and this is
Speaker 1: like not a lot of weeds. So it's like to me,
Speaker 1: it's just I don't know, I don't really feel all
Speaker 1: like stupid high right now. I don't know if I
Speaker 1: look stupid. Sometimes I see my pictures of myself at
Speaker 1: a festival or some ship, and I'm like, goddamn, I
Speaker 1: look high, like a lot of dudes don't really look
Speaker 1: that high. I'm fucking paleless, fuck in comparison to you
Speaker 1: know a lot of people. I'm around him, so you
Speaker 1: could tell where my eyes are all pink, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like black guys don't look as
Speaker 1: high when they high as fun, but they don't look
Speaker 1: pale either, you know. But I feel like me being pale.
Speaker 1: It's like my eyes turning mad pink and you can
Speaker 1: see it. I don't. I don't know. I couldn't feel
Speaker 1: like if you did, you you would hide it a
Speaker 1: little bit better, you know. Well, I guess if you
Speaker 1: want on the show James, Yeah, I've watched him and um,
Speaker 1: what's the way they used to come and do the
Speaker 1: show with the spider Loke ship. There's smoke, black and
Speaker 1: just talking. Yeah, and he and I spied smoking. I'm
Speaker 1: talking about smoking. If I'm comfortable, I can do that.
Speaker 1: You know. If I'm a little nervous on edge, then
Speaker 1: I don't want smoke. Yeah, how is it doing it? Of? You? Though? High?
Speaker 1: And you know you gotta kind of have the flow going.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm smoking weed all the time anyway, so
Speaker 1: I don't really bother me. I guess, oh yeah, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you know, like I just bring
Speaker 1: this up, is that one of the craziest titles that
Speaker 1: lad Ever did was a little Bibi All my friends
Speaker 1: were high when they got killed, which is like, yeah,
Speaker 1: all your friends are high all the time because everybody's
Speaker 1: smoking weed all the time. It's like, of course they
Speaker 1: were high when they got killed. But it's like it's
Speaker 1: kind of like a weird framing for that, because it's
Speaker 1: like in reality, like I could say, you know, all
Speaker 1: my friends when they fucking broke their ankle, right and
Speaker 1: BMX were high too, because everybody I know right is
Speaker 1: smoking all the time. It's just kind of so you
Speaker 1: don't think you'd be a better being mixer if you
Speaker 1: wasn't smoking. I mean, hey, I wonder all the time
Speaker 1: if I would be a better a lot of things
Speaker 1: if I wasn't smoking. I wonder if my girlfriend would
Speaker 1: be pregnant right now if I wasn't smoking. I wonder
Speaker 1: if fucking I'd be able to go longer on the
Speaker 1: treadmill if I wasn't smoking but about to be a weed.
Speaker 1: I mean as you feel like you have any kids already.
Speaker 1: Yet I've been shooting the club up and they worked
Speaker 1: yet though, yeah, nobody died. Now, I wasn't aware of
Speaker 1: marijuana because impact your ability to get a woman pregnant.
Speaker 1: That's what she keeps saying. But I think she's full
Speaker 1: of ship. She doesn't smoke weed. He might have to
Speaker 1: fact check that on next week's episode. That's a great idea.
Speaker 1: It ain't gonna body. Why would it body? I have
Speaker 1: no idea, you know. I mean, it's still a drug,
Speaker 1: but it's allegedly it could lower your sperm count. But
Speaker 1: I mean you've got millions even if it lowers million sperm.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. But you want the strong sperm. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I had one of the best comments I ever got
Speaker 1: was a girl tell me that my jis tasted like weed.
Speaker 1: I'm like, is it? Is it inedible? Is it gonna
Speaker 1: get you stone or something? I thought that was incredible,
Speaker 1: But they believe that though I had one to hell,
Speaker 1: me drink a lot of cranberry juice and that's what
Speaker 1: you that's what you taste like. So it might be true. Man,
Speaker 1: we don't find up. We're in the process of making
Speaker 1: your own marijuana, putting together your own Yeah, we have
Speaker 1: a no jumper strain in stores right now. It's been
Speaker 1: it's been slow, to be honest, you know, it's kind
Speaker 1: of weird working with people that I ain't worked with
Speaker 1: before and ships, So I don't really, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure exactly what the future of it is. Well,
Speaker 1: they said there's big money and dispensariess and legally selling marijuana. Man,
Speaker 1: I've talked to some people who owned dispensaries of the
Speaker 1: amount that they pay on fucking security taxes, fucking all.
Speaker 1: This ship is a while that because the city got involved,
Speaker 1: the government now has got involved. In the early days,
Speaker 1: you just just to go runt of space, create your
Speaker 1: own dispensary, have your security make all the money. I
Speaker 1: find it really interesting that they are giving some percentage
Speaker 1: of the licenses to run dispensaries to people who who
Speaker 1: have served time because of marijuana related crimes. I know,
Speaker 1: I think that's a great thing because yeah, yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: almost just amazed that they're even working on that level,
Speaker 1: that they're actually being conscious of that kind of ship,
Speaker 1: because it seems like the weed space is kind of
Speaker 1: poised to be taken over by corporations. The government realizes
Speaker 1: that we can't criminalize marijuana use anymore, and for people
Speaker 1: who have been penalized for in the past, the should
Speaker 1: be first in line to get a license to sell. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think um freed Ricky Ross just got his license. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I saw that. Yeah, that's a good thing. That's a
Speaker 1: good thing. What do you think about the legalization of marijuana, James, Hey,
Speaker 1: if you can make money off of it, and they
Speaker 1: see they can't stop it, so this's join them. But
Speaker 1: you know the government is going to have their hand
Speaker 1: in your pocket, boy, but they already in their pockets.
Speaker 1: We're going to one of these dispensaries ons like eighty
Speaker 1: dollars for eight some of these places. It's almost better
Speaker 1: to just buy your weed off the streets, everybody, everybody,
Speaker 1: I know those a street dealer that comes through and something.
Speaker 1: The ship, but that's gonna be the weird ship is
Speaker 1: when they start because the legal grow operations they have
Speaker 1: actual system. I don't know if it's actually been implemented yet,
Speaker 1: but where if you grow a pound of weed in
Speaker 1: that in that grow operation, and that weed is supposed
Speaker 1: to be so illegally that you are not taking a
Speaker 1: pound out of there and selling it with no tax
Speaker 1: and ship. Like everything you grow is accounted for. Has
Speaker 1: to be cameras in every single part of it so
Speaker 1: that they can investigate you and find out if you're
Speaker 1: committing tax fraud by selling pounds on the side. And
Speaker 1: the taxes are so crazy the corner a lot of people.
Speaker 1: I know. The only way these motherfucker's are actually turning
Speaker 1: the profit is by selling a decent amount of the
Speaker 1: weed that they get illegally, you know, like without paying
Speaker 1: the taxes and ship. That's crazy. I was completely unaware
Speaker 1: of how difficult the businesses because it seems like all
Speaker 1: these dispensaries they're making like fifty a hundred thousand a
Speaker 1: month selling weed. Oh no, they got dispensaries that open up.
Speaker 1: You might see them for three months and then they're gone.
Speaker 1: They moved to another spot. I think you're making a
Speaker 1: hundred thousand and a month out a weed shop. That
Speaker 1: that a hundred thousands turning into five thousand, like pretty
Speaker 1: fucking quick after tax. Is your employees the real estate.
Speaker 1: I used to have a quiz Nos franchise and it
Speaker 1: would make like forty average quizins can make fortt but
Speaker 1: you're only taking home about four or five thousand of that.
Speaker 1: So you forty five thousand to run a quiz nos
Speaker 1: for one month. You just made yourself a job. You know,
Speaker 1: it's like a regular job. It's the biggest waste of
Speaker 1: money I ever invested in my life. I ain't doing
Speaker 1: none of it. I ain't doing nothing legal. You don't
Speaker 1: benefit off for selling nothing legal any street products. You
Speaker 1: go legal and do all that, you're wasting your time.
Speaker 1: Get it be on that curve. You know how many
Speaker 1: people thought I was a millionaire because I had a
Speaker 1: quiz Nos people? How many people thought how rich I
Speaker 1: was because that that quiz Nos buried me. You know,
Speaker 1: it just took everything I had. I thought that was
Speaker 1: because my original business was a BMX website where I
Speaker 1: was selling advertisements these BMX companies and ship and for
Speaker 1: a while, I was making like a hundred grand a year.
Speaker 1: And I'm feeling like the man because I didn't I
Speaker 1: started that ship myself. Being as a small industry, I
Speaker 1: guess I didn't really even understand how small ball that
Speaker 1: was at the at the time. But I'm feeling like
Speaker 1: the man. And then I am. I remember I opened
Speaker 1: the bike shop and everybody I know is hitting me up,
Speaker 1: acting like I'm so successful now because I have the
Speaker 1: bike shop. I'm like, you're realize I'm gonna lose money
Speaker 1: on this for like a significant amount of time, Like
Speaker 1: running a bike shop is a for for me. There
Speaker 1: was a long term branding prospect for my brand on
Speaker 1: some ship, which is like my No Jumpers, like the
Speaker 1: media company on some ship's kind of like the BMX
Speaker 1: skate rooted apparel brand, you know and like. But people
Speaker 1: were acting like I was so successful just because I
Speaker 1: opened the store. I'm like, and also you could open us.
Speaker 1: I was. I was in downtown in l A, on
Speaker 1: the corner and the edge of skid roll. I think
Speaker 1: we're paying te in rent a month. I'm like, it's
Speaker 1: not so unobtainable to open the store. Yeah. And I
Speaker 1: bet during your death row days, they probably people thought
Speaker 1: you had more money than what people were really making.
Speaker 1: Everybody was a millionaire, right just because you see somebody
Speaker 1: on TV, do me rich? You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: And Uh, that's just people's perception. They see you out there,
Speaker 1: you're in the cars, you're doing this, they think you
Speaker 1: got money, we was we was neighborhood rich. And it's crazy,
Speaker 1: like I always forget that, Like for most of my life,
Speaker 1: I thought that it would be like the coolest ship
Speaker 1: ever just to be around rappers. And I and a
Speaker 1: lot of people still are on that wavelength, and it's
Speaker 1: like in reality, like tonight, there's all kinds of rappers
Speaker 1: that I know that I could go pull up on
Speaker 1: the studio and smoke a couple of blunts on them
Speaker 1: or whatever, like the funk. Am I gonna be doing
Speaker 1: that for I ain't get no money doing that. You know.
Speaker 1: It's like it's nice to maybe like nurture the relationship,
Speaker 1: but just see somebody you ain't seen in a minute whatever.
Speaker 1: But like you know, I just forget that to a
Speaker 1: lot of people, just being around famous people is like
Speaker 1: the coolest ship in the world because they just haven't
Speaker 1: done that ship is now. You mentioned when you was
Speaker 1: on I think you said you went to Mexico on
Speaker 1: a vacation. You thought about your content and how you
Speaker 1: want to change it. What what will we expect that's
Speaker 1: new in terms of the content that you plan on
Speaker 1: putting out this year. I think we're just gonna get
Speaker 1: a lot more consistent with our vlogs. Of just like
Speaker 1: me and other hosts were like really focused on building
Speaker 1: up other hosts under the brand to be able to
Speaker 1: just keep get real consistent with our vlogs and covering
Speaker 1: all different parts of the culture in l A and
Speaker 1: outside of l A. We're gonna do Black Dave doing
Speaker 1: skate slash hip hop videos out in New York City.
Speaker 1: He did one out here actually when he was out
Speaker 1: visiting us. They he was just going out and like
Speaker 1: hitting all the skate parks in l A. Linked with
Speaker 1: the kid Sunny from the mid nineties movie. Uh, he
Speaker 1: just did one where he like pulled up to a B. G.
Speaker 1: Neil's block in Brooklyn. Um just working on building out
Speaker 1: more hosts and just kind of increasing the overall flavor
Speaker 1: of the content that we're putting out there. Like you said,
Speaker 1: like people were really excited about that BMX video. We're
Speaker 1: trying to just do a lot of BMX skate stuff
Speaker 1: over the next year too, and just keep growing that
Speaker 1: side of things. I'm probably you don't have like a
Speaker 1: BMX like um park, no jumper BMX park. That's the
Speaker 1: goal is to have a private skal you know, you
Speaker 1: made in this line of work if you got a
Speaker 1: private skate park in the valley. So that's that's something
Speaker 1: I'm shooting for in the long run, to have all
Speaker 1: the people just come through with their bikes. See, that
Speaker 1: would be the dopest thing. You don't even got to
Speaker 1: go to skate park and worry about the sun or anything.
Speaker 1: You just got your own private warehouse with ramps and
Speaker 1: stuff that will be doing. No. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you saw the video James, but he hasn't. I guess
Speaker 1: played and he did the tricks in like three or
Speaker 1: four years. Yeah, I didn't. He was landing them. I
Speaker 1: don't know the names of those. But when you take
Speaker 1: the pegs on the back wheels and skateboard culture they
Speaker 1: call that a grind, the same thing, uphill uphill grind. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we were going for it. It was good he was.
Speaker 1: He was landing them. I was actually impressed. I was like,
Speaker 1: I didn't know this guy had BMX skills. No, not
Speaker 1: at all. My two sons could do kick flips and
Speaker 1: and all that stuff on skateboards for like twenty years. Honestly,
Speaker 1: when I got into BMX at thirteen, that's pretty much
Speaker 1: all I did for like the next twenty years of
Speaker 1: my life, and just at a certain point I started
Speaker 1: the website and started success with that. That was about
Speaker 1: ten years in, and I was it's pretty much how
Speaker 1: I learned to do everything, because it's like I wouldn't
Speaker 1: have had any kind of confidence or any kind of
Speaker 1: resume to interview rappers, but I was interviewing bike riders,
Speaker 1: and then that sort of gave me the entry point
Speaker 1: to start even having anything going on, to be able
Speaker 1: to sort of meet people in the entertainment world. And shoot,
Speaker 1: thirteen years old a little late just to start in
Speaker 1: that world because a lot of them have been riding
Speaker 1: since the six seven years. Especially now, it's like you
Speaker 1: you could kind of tell if a kid is going
Speaker 1: to end up being a probe by the time the
Speaker 1: thirteen These days, a lot of times like it's thirteen
Speaker 1: is like you should have a solid skill set these
Speaker 1: days because the best dudes usually are dudes who have
Speaker 1: been doing it since they were fucking really young. And
Speaker 1: that's when the sponsorships come into those fourteen, fifteen, sixteen
Speaker 1: year olds, you know they made it. How does it
Speaker 1: compare between skateboarding and BM Mexic Because I hear a
Speaker 1: lot about skateboarding world. I don't hear a lot about
Speaker 1: the BMX world. Being in this world is just small
Speaker 1: in comparison because there's just a lot less people who
Speaker 1: do it in comparison to skate I feel like skate
Speaker 1: has gotten a lot bigger over the twenty years or
Speaker 1: so that I've been involved, while the BMX thing has
Speaker 1: gotten a bit smaller. But I mean, it's still like
Speaker 1: a really amazing community. Like I'm consistently just amazed by
Speaker 1: the people who are just so ridiculously passionate about it.
Speaker 1: So I mean, it's it's something where like you know,
Speaker 1: actually riding bikes might not be a really big part
Speaker 1: of my life at this point, but it's always just
Speaker 1: going to be something that's a part of my overall brand.
Speaker 1: And it's just kind of saw the issue of like
Speaker 1: how to incorporate it into No Jumper in a way
Speaker 1: that sort of shows all the different sides of the culture.
Speaker 1: You know, you don't really see a lot of people
Speaker 1: of color in the BMX world and skateboarding. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of people of color starting, but when I was
Speaker 1: a little kid, we didn't write skateboards, right. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you've noticed there's a lot of black kids
Speaker 1: now writing skateboards in the hood, and there's money in it.
Speaker 1: Everybody around the skateboard nine day. It wasn't even cool
Speaker 1: when I was little. If he was on a skateboard,
Speaker 1: he was a punk, he was a coward. While you
Speaker 1: on a skateboard, man, it's been amazing seeing that ship changed.
Speaker 1: I think it was honestly around two thousand nine ten
Speaker 1: when I started to see Soldier boys standing on a
Speaker 1: skateboard rapping in the video, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: it just felt like there was just change and attitude.
Speaker 1: Because you know, a lot of the skate parks are
Speaker 1: kind of in the hood, so you would always have
Speaker 1: kids from the hood go into the skate park. But
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, it felt like those same
Speaker 1: kids wanted to actually learn how to skateboard once they
Speaker 1: sort of saw people in the in the rap culture
Speaker 1: embracing it and stuff. So that was that was actually
Speaker 1: like a really dope thing for me to see and
Speaker 1: really kind of gave me a lot of hope in
Speaker 1: terms of like where you could go from there, because
Speaker 1: to me, a young kid who was like from the
Speaker 1: hood in the streets whatever, like them thinking the skateboarding
Speaker 1: is dope and that that's a dope way of life.
Speaker 1: That's such a positive thing because you know, for for
Speaker 1: them to see that as a positive way of life,
Speaker 1: for them to be looking at the tye of the Creator.
Speaker 1: I remember when he came out like two thousand and eleven,
Speaker 1: and he was the first one to really represent a
Speaker 1: version of a young kid from l A who didn't
Speaker 1: give a funk about the gangs and just wanted to
Speaker 1: hang out on Fairfax and go to the skate park
Speaker 1: and you know, make some rap music and stuff and
Speaker 1: didn't give it sh it about being tough, and that
Speaker 1: like opened up like a blueprint for so many kids
Speaker 1: to be able to understand themselves as a person who's
Speaker 1: not defined by their willingness to commit violence or whatever.
Speaker 1: You know. They put a skate park in Rancho Park,
Speaker 1: which is the park for the Jungles is at and
Speaker 1: for years, I don't think there was any skate park
Speaker 1: in South Los Angeles. I don't know if there's anything.
Speaker 1: There might be one skate park in Compton now, but
Speaker 1: for throughout the eighties and i'd say most of the nineties,
Speaker 1: there were no skate parks in South l A. Now
Speaker 1: they're popping up. And Stacy Peralta, he came to the
Speaker 1: Jungles one day and was teaching the kids there and
Speaker 1: and then this is the neighborhood for the Black Peace
Speaker 1: Stones are for those who don't know, He's teaching the
Speaker 1: kids there how to skate, and all these little black
Speaker 1: kids was loving it. They all wanted to learn how
Speaker 1: to skate. They all wanted to know how to ali.
Speaker 1: And I think it's just changing. But I don't know
Speaker 1: if the BMX world is gonna catch up to what
Speaker 1: they're doing in the skateboarding world. Yeah, it's just like
Speaker 1: a different side of things. I mean. And the one
Speaker 1: thing I always loved about BMX bikes was just that
Speaker 1: when I got into it, all of a sudden, I
Speaker 1: was riding my bike, you know, three or four miles
Speaker 1: from my house to downtown. Uh in the city I
Speaker 1: grew up in. We started hopping on the train and
Speaker 1: going to Boston, or you know, hopping on the train
Speaker 1: going to New York, hopping on the bus going to
Speaker 1: New York and just being able to use that as
Speaker 1: a vehicle to just get away from my home life
Speaker 1: and all the bullshit I was dealing with my parents,
Speaker 1: and ship was just like huge for me. And I
Speaker 1: think best case scenario, that's what a lot of kids
Speaker 1: get from a skateboard or a BMX bike. That might
Speaker 1: be sort of you know, that's what it gets lost
Speaker 1: because people think it's so much about the tricks. To me,
Speaker 1: it's just about having that vehicle that's gonna take you
Speaker 1: away from your circumstances and help. To me, the world
Speaker 1: seems so much bigger on a bike because I could
Speaker 1: just get somewhere fast and be able to like just
Speaker 1: experience things in a way that I felt closed off
Speaker 1: because I was riding bikes even before I had a
Speaker 1: car or anything. You know, you didn't see too much
Speaker 1: of that when you was growing up as a kid either, No,
Speaker 1: just the skateboarding, but specifically the BMX thing. But maybe
Speaker 1: there was more because I remember in the eighties we
Speaker 1: used to ride mong Gooses, red Lines, Diamondbacks. That used
Speaker 1: to be more of just a normal teenager thing. But
Speaker 1: you know, l A and a bike city, you know,
Speaker 1: like New York is a bike city. L A is
Speaker 1: kind of too big, Like you can ride around a
Speaker 1: specific neighborhood or whatever, but you're not gonna ride from
Speaker 1: North Hollywood to Compton. You know it's like downtown. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but in Compton at least l A is flat. When
Speaker 1: you go south of Hollywood, it's pretty much all flat.
Speaker 1: So it's easy to like right right down town l
Speaker 1: All right, Um, any last words before we wrap this
Speaker 1: up on them, man, there's an honor. I'd love to
Speaker 1: get you guys on the show sometime for sure. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're coming. That would be awesome. Well, people, because you left,
Speaker 1: I'm coming. I already choke you. I'm coming to show.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be on there. And no, no, we ain't
Speaker 1: gonna smoke in my spot. They're going to kick up.
Speaker 1: No I ain't for that. No, I'll do the opposite. Alright, Well,
Speaker 1: I want to thank everybody for listening to another episode
Speaker 1: of The Gangster Chronicles. You know, you can find James
Speaker 1: McDonald on Facebook. He's got the red Harley and in
Speaker 1: the profile picture, and he's also on Instagram at B I,
Speaker 1: G G J thirty six thirty six the Death Row
Speaker 1: T shirts. He's wearing one right now. If you're interested
Speaker 1: in one of those, hit him up nine zero nine
Speaker 1: eight h zero four and you can find me on
Speaker 1: all social media platforms at alex Alonzo one zero one.
Speaker 1: Make sure you check out my latest interviews on Street tv,
Speaker 1: a K Street Gangs dot com and Adams found on
Speaker 1: No Jumper pretty much every day. Um, you're Adam twenty
Speaker 1: two at Twitter and at Instagram and James. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: got sixty T shirts that was defective, and I say
Speaker 1: I couldn't sell them because on the back of one
Speaker 1: of the pictures, uh, one of the guys face didn't show.
Speaker 1: So I couldn't mail those shirts out. But I can.
Speaker 1: I don't know how to give them away because I
Speaker 1: ain't gonna use my money to mail them to you.
Speaker 1: So if you want a T shirt, hit me up
Speaker 1: on nine oh nine four one, nine zero three four
Speaker 1: or five and you pay for the handling, the shipping
Speaker 1: and hand And I was shipping anywhere as long as
Speaker 1: you pay for it. So let's say the average is
Speaker 1: ten bucks, send me ten bucks, I send you a
Speaker 1: T shirt. You could also do what they do on
Speaker 1: UH the team doesn't win the championship. When one team
Speaker 1: doesn't win the championship, because they make T shirts for
Speaker 1: both sides, right, one team loses. You know what they
Speaker 1: do with those shirts? I think they sent him to Africa.
Speaker 1: They just give them away. Well, I mean, I mean
Speaker 1: everybody loving the shirts. I mean I would get back
Speaker 1: and find a place where I could just, you know,
Speaker 1: just give them out. But they're not they must not
Speaker 1: be that defective. One picture on the on the back,
Speaker 1: his face didn't come clear. It's worth it the just
Speaker 1: I was sending it to you, but put put your
Speaker 1: signature on on the front part of it, right in
Speaker 1: the white part where the the the death row guy
Speaker 1: sitting in the chair, and adds a little value to it.
Speaker 1: And uh, I think people will definitely hit you up.
Speaker 1: On the black ones, I gotta I got a white pant,
Speaker 1: white ink, I hit on bone them and then I
Speaker 1: used a black one on the white one. So I
Speaker 1: didn't signed a few autographs, but yeah, that's what I have.
Speaker 1: So you know, they're just sitting them, They're just sitting
Speaker 1: in my garage in the box, and I'm just trying
Speaker 1: to figure out what to do with them. And I
Speaker 1: figured I let everybody know that I have them. Those
Speaker 1: at one one and and around me. I give you
Speaker 1: a T shirt, I'll bring something to you and those
Speaker 1: that out there, I sent them to you just paper
Speaker 1: for me sending it sounds good good Other than no Jumper, Adam,
Speaker 1: where else can people find you? On social media? Adam
Speaker 1: on Twitter and Instagram, Facebook, all that ship appreciate you coming.
Speaker 1: And let's reinstate Pete Rose into the Major League Baseball
Speaker 1: we out shirt h