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Speaker 1: You're tuned into The Gangster Chronicles, sayings McDonald, Rexi Reich Jr.

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Speaker 1: And Alex Tomonso on the Digital Soapbox Network material witness

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Speaker 1: on an aggravated battery. I was a hang gun and

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Speaker 1: they believe this might be in retaliation to her testimony.

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Speaker 1: Good morning, good afternoon, and good evening, and welcome to

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Speaker 1: another episode of The Gangster Chronicles. This his episode forty one.

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Speaker 1: My name is Alex Alonto from Street Gangs dot Com

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Speaker 1: and I'm here with my co host James McDonald, and

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Speaker 1: we got a guess and we're just gonna go straight

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Speaker 1: into it. Man, we got Adam twenty two from No Jumper.

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Speaker 1: What's up? Man? What's happening to? Big fan of the show?

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you sawing. Nori told me about

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Speaker 1: it on the podcast. Man, everybody d M me that day, man, literally,

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Speaker 1: no joke, like fifty d m s within Like was

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Speaker 1: he serious? Did somebody tell him to say that? He

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Speaker 1: just really like that was really out of the middle

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Speaker 1: of nowhere because I didn't even know about it yet

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Speaker 1: at that point, So he was he was just amped

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Speaker 1: up telling me about the podcast he funk with. So

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Speaker 1: I took his recommendation. But I also I'm a person

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Speaker 1: who only finished watching The Wire, like a year ago

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Speaker 1: or less than a year ago. So when he said

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Speaker 1: it's a podcast, it's like The Wire that that got

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Speaker 1: to me. I was like, I'm excited for The Wire

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Speaker 1: is probably one of the best television shows in the

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Speaker 1: history of television. I mean, you go back and binge

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Speaker 1: watching Man once you started. Once you're on episode one,

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Speaker 1: you ain't gonna stop. It's it was actually a cop

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Speaker 1: X game member and it's your classic gangsters and robbers

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Speaker 1: and police. But it's dope because it shows like from

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Speaker 1: the real perspective of the cops and the perspective of

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Speaker 1: like and the first episode the first season is like

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Speaker 1: the crack dealers in the hood, but then they get

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Speaker 1: into like the people working on the docks who are

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Speaker 1: dealing with corruption. In that sense, it deals with a

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Speaker 1: lot of different crime. It's not just like because I

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Speaker 1: remember I was telling Crocodi about it and he was like, man,

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Speaker 1: He's like, I grew up around all that bullshit. I

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Speaker 1: don't want to watch a show about that. And I

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Speaker 1: was like, I feel you. But then I got the

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Speaker 1: second season, two, season three, I'm like, damn, he Actually

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Speaker 1: he might be missing out a little more than anythings,

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Speaker 1: because it's not just like straight up like this is

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Speaker 1: is the Hood the whole time? You know, Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: but just cinematically, it's great to watch it takes place

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Speaker 1: I believe Baltimore, right. So yeah, man, Um, I've been

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Speaker 1: messing with Nori for over ten years. He's been following

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Speaker 1: me on Street Gangs dot Com for years, so I

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Speaker 1: wasn't surprised. Nori pretty much likes everything I do. When

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Speaker 1: I see him, he quotes me on things that I've said,

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Speaker 1: so he loves street ship. He was definitely a Street

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Speaker 1: Gangs fan. We gotta give a shout out to him

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Speaker 1: because I was shocked to hear that on on on

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Speaker 1: your your podcast and the way he was talking. We

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Speaker 1: only him. We owe him a flight he missed. He

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Speaker 1: missed the flight listening to Games the Chronicles. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: yeah yeah. He told him, you don't know how to

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Speaker 1: download it to your phone and listen to it on

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Speaker 1: the plane, right, Yeah, he was getting the name. I

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Speaker 1: was like, Damn, Buntry is my brother. I'm mom James

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Speaker 1: Buntreal and Timmy Route. We're brothers. Reggie Wright and Alex

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Speaker 1: and Linzo, but he knew you. Yeah, so that's the

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Speaker 1: only name he didn't get wrong. Well, he did kind

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Speaker 1: of mess me up a little bit, But yeah, I

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Speaker 1: met Nori back in two thousand eight here in Los

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Speaker 1: Angeles and we've kept in touch over the years. But

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Speaker 1: I know how he felt when he said he missed

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Speaker 1: flights because you ever been in your car and you

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Speaker 1: get to your destination but your favorite song is still playing.

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Speaker 1: She don't get out. You wait till that song is over,

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Speaker 1: and then you go to your destination. So I guess

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Speaker 1: he caught that on one of our great episodes of

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Speaker 1: The Gangster Chronicles. But what's up, Adam? I mean, you

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Speaker 1: got you got all all the great guests over there

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Speaker 1: at forty Glock yesterday. Man, I had a lot of

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Speaker 1: from Colton, Yeah, Colton City Crib Yeah, c c C.

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Speaker 1: I learned a lot about, you know, as somebody who

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Speaker 1: my phone. It's like it's just been a crazy fast

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Speaker 1: education to like meet so many of the people that

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Speaker 1: I grew up listening to and ship. You know that

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Speaker 1: he got into a shootout with the police before, and

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Speaker 1: he told me all about that one, and they didn't

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Speaker 1: He had a case out in Colton. They needed an expertise,

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Speaker 1: about him. I think that was in ninety six. He

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Speaker 1: literally got into a shootout with the police. So how

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Speaker 1: that case. I mean that ninety six how many years ago?

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Speaker 1: Was at twenty four years ago? You seem like he

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Speaker 1: just got shot in the legs. So he was all right,

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Speaker 1: this is what he told me yesterday. But like he

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Speaker 1: probably because the cops behavior was so inexplicable. Or did

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Speaker 1: he looked back then he shoot back at the cops

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Speaker 1: like this neighborhood had shootouts like every day, over and over,

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Speaker 1: so I don't Yeah. I also had that interview go though.

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Speaker 1: That was dope. You know, it's like just to be

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Speaker 1: able to you know, actually I got to give Glad

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Speaker 1: the tip of the hat because to a certain extent,

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Speaker 1: like these old stories that we never wouldn't necessarily thought

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Speaker 1: would be so valuable from a you know, viral level

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Speaker 1: or whatever. It's like, you know, you you are under

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Speaker 1: these little stories that just give you a little bit

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Speaker 1: of detail about death row or pock or whatever, it

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Speaker 1: Myself ain't the only one doing it, right. I feel

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Speaker 1: like he through being so shameless kind of like helped

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Speaker 1: because he's not scared to just ask the craziest ship.

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Speaker 1: You know it's like to a certain extent, I feel

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Speaker 1: you know, he has a certain reputation because he's will

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Speaker 1: have people in and ask him like about all the

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Speaker 1: ship that to a certain percentage of people just don't

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Speaker 1: for the story that is the craziest fucking story that's

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Speaker 1: gonna get a million views, or you know, it's all

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Speaker 1: about your interviewing style. Sometimes I feel like I have

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Speaker 1: just some of those a lot of questions written down

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Speaker 1: I guess had X rated on well that's why you

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Speaker 1: you like, I just did you when you come in

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Speaker 1: to cross that line. But if I ask you a question,

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Speaker 1: then the doors is open for it. Then that's what

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Speaker 1: I can went on, Lad, I'm here to answer your questions.

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Speaker 1: So I'm a grown ass man. I can tell you no,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to talk about that. You know, let's

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Speaker 1: because everybody knows some things are to be I mean,

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Speaker 1: you could say some ship, but some things ain't supposed

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Speaker 1: but you might have talked about it, Lad, but now

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Speaker 1: you don't want some other motherfucker asking you about it.

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Speaker 1: You like, I just did an interview telling this crazy story.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of rude for you to ask me to

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Speaker 1: just reiterate the same exact story. You know you're gonna

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Speaker 1: That's what you're going on, black Folk, and you know

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Speaker 1: I don't have to answer that, but that motherfuck he

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Speaker 1: but for accident, and I askewed it. Where is he

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Speaker 1: at that? When people get on this case for that ship,

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Speaker 1: only fair if you say no, guys, let me talk

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Speaker 1: so we didn't bring that up. So get your pad

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Speaker 1: and cross those two outs. But everything, you know what

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Speaker 1: I think in the hip hop world, Wendy Williams was

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Speaker 1: Williams and Cala Main was born from her, and you

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Speaker 1: know he has that rap as well. But then then

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Speaker 1: Wendy Williams transitioned to talk show host and went in

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Speaker 1: before podcasts was even hot. So you know, I think

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Speaker 1: run into the right person as my ship. You asked

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Speaker 1: me something I don't want to talk about it, I ain't.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to talk about that. Man, I don't

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Speaker 1: care how you interview gonna be. You ain't getting paid

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Speaker 1: for these interviews, so why not. But sometimes you'll tell

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Speaker 1: mean yeah, and they still ask, Like Barbara Walters was

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Speaker 1: I'm just like, yes, you ain't ship. But that's how

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Speaker 1: and thinking like, is there a future in which a

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Speaker 1: lot of the organic, smaller YouTube type creators get basically

428
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Speaker 1: pushed out though by the big names. Not that I

429
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Speaker 1: think that will ever entirely happen, because I think that,

430
00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:16,600
Speaker 1: you know, the big corporations will never be able to

431
00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,800
Speaker 1: document the you know, streets ship like you do, or

432
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Speaker 1: document some of the underground people like I do, or whatever.

433
00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:25,560
Speaker 1: But sometimes you just see these bigger and bigger names

434
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Speaker 1: getting into the podcast in space or the YouTube space,

435
00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:29,639
Speaker 1: and you're like, damn, is there really going to be

436
00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,720
Speaker 1: any room left for the people who came up from nothing? Okay,

437
00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:34,800
Speaker 1: now that I mean, I mean, I mean, I got

438
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Speaker 1: a question you do this ship is your livelihood Is

439
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Speaker 1: you're making money off of the stuff that you're bringing

440
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Speaker 1: in the people that you're interviewing. Why is it hard

441
00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:49,000
Speaker 1: or why would it be a problem to pay the

442
00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:52,400
Speaker 1: person that you're going to do an interview with I'm

443
00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,640
Speaker 1: giving you my life story. Take my instance, I got

444
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Speaker 1: thirteen million, Yeah, you got the mo use bla. That's

445
00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:05,240
Speaker 1: a lot of money made. And you don't think that

446
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Speaker 1: I would be worth man at the at the outcast

447
00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:10,160
Speaker 1: then on this you don't think I'm worth I mean,

448
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Speaker 1: if you if you just said people find I did,

449
00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:16,760
Speaker 1: I did well off. Your interviews are interviewing somebody such

450
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Speaker 1: as that person that you know you're gonna do goodbye?

451
00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,840
Speaker 1: Why not paying? Lad said that he's paid people because

452
00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:24,600
Speaker 1: he knew that you know, he wasn't gonna get the

453
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Speaker 1: interview otherwise, and that he felt cool about it. I didn't.

454
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, those are your options. Every

455
00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:33,960
Speaker 1: situation is different. Those are your options. If you don't

456
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Speaker 1: want to pay me, move on to the next person.

457
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Speaker 1: But you can't assume that every video is gonna make

458
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Speaker 1: money because YouTube can demonetize like percent. I bet you

459
00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:44,800
Speaker 1: get a lot of videos demonetized, which means get so

460
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Speaker 1: much money that video makes nothing and a lot of

461
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Speaker 1: especially if it's the one that has the title that's

462
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Speaker 1: like so and so talks about having to shoot out

463
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Speaker 1: with so and so and all of a sudden, the

464
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Speaker 1: best title is the one that ain't gonna make any money. Yeah,

465
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Speaker 1: so that's one reason why, because it's not guaranteed that

466
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Speaker 1: the content creator is gonna benefit from that. Okay, So

467
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Speaker 1: should should the interviewer take taking upon himself to say

468
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Speaker 1: I made thirty dollars off off your video? He goes

469
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Speaker 1: after the fact, I mean something because y'all are making

470
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Speaker 1: the money. You know what I'm saying, Like, we're sitting

471
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Speaker 1: here doing this free. We put this on YouTube. We

472
00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:26,600
Speaker 1: we were gonna get a check for it. You know

473
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Why shouldn't you get a kick? Why

474
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Speaker 1: shouldn't we come to you and say we did good?

475
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Speaker 1: Because you're just looking out for If I take my

476
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Speaker 1: time out to come and deal with you, take your

477
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Speaker 1: time out to say, man, I did real well off

478
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Speaker 1: that one, then I'm gonna come back. Oh no, I'm

479
00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,840
Speaker 1: coming back to with you because you're keeping it one hunted. Yeah.

480
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Speaker 1: But a big part of the issue is that there's

481
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Speaker 1: not that much money and it's not that consistent. You know,

482
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Speaker 1: like that thing that rich I did great on that one.

483
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Speaker 1: You're rich rich Man. But I know that if even

484
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Speaker 1: I do an is all the time that I don't

485
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 1: make five off you know on YouTube don't make sense

486
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Speaker 1: for most. Well, that's why I wouldn't make a phone

487
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Speaker 1: call and say you go three hunting, because why would

488
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Speaker 1: I give you three d only make five? But James,

489
00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,160
Speaker 1: you also benefit from being on the platform like lad

490
00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,240
Speaker 1: because you get your face and your name out there.

491
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Speaker 1: You've got people now wanting to do business with you,

492
00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,560
Speaker 1: so that it's a two way street. Yeah, but that's

493
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Speaker 1: that's not why I did it. I'm not looking for

494
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Speaker 1: a new fame. I'm not looking for nothing. I'm here

495
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Speaker 1: to tell you my story. I might as well just

496
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Speaker 1: sit back and write a book. I don't say nothing,

497
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Speaker 1: But that's the ways, because you want people to hear

498
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Speaker 1: what you got on your chest. But even if you

499
00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:40,840
Speaker 1: write a book, you're gonna have to go promote it,

500
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:44,720
Speaker 1: and you're gonna go and you all kind of ways,

501
00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:48,040
Speaker 1: all kind of ways. I'm just saying. I'm not saying.

502
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Speaker 1: I'm saying. The reason why it's it's not a great

503
00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:56,280
Speaker 1: economic model to pay for it. Every person that you interview,

504
00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:58,080
Speaker 1: because if I pay you, then the next guy says,

505
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Speaker 1: we just paid James, you're not gonna pay me a

506
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 1: little something. Well, you're not James. But that's what you

507
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:05,320
Speaker 1: should wait and see what it does. If it do

508
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,960
Speaker 1: get a yeah, that's what you shouldn't go too. Does

509
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,960
Speaker 1: business like that? You know, just make some money with

510
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,479
Speaker 1: because somebody and then you're like, hey, I'm gonna throws

511
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 1: because you were there when I made this million good

512
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 1: it would be really nice. I just never really knew,

513
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Speaker 1: my motherfucker. Just think of the dope man who happened

514
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,439
Speaker 1: to make an extra couple of racks off, and then

515
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,040
Speaker 1: it goes back to that's a difference. Hey, I made

516
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Speaker 1: a little extra, here's something for you that ain't gonna

517
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Speaker 1: happen that that. It's totally on. That's totally up to you.

518
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,280
Speaker 1: How you share you doping all that ship. I'm just

519
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:44,320
Speaker 1: saying if if I mean I'm getting paid here, you

520
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,600
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So if Black would have said, Okay,

521
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Speaker 1: I got you, no problem, because men, I'm good, I'm

522
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Speaker 1: I'm being on this show next week. You know you

523
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Speaker 1: expect you expect him to give get nineteen million views. No,

524
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Speaker 1: I don't know. That's it's over and done. But that's

525
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 1: why I'm speaking on it now. Now. If I go

526
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:05,959
Speaker 1: up there and set wins and he said, James, I

527
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:10,879
Speaker 1: did do good off your show here, you know what

528
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 1: I'm saying, unlike one person, Greg Katie and and he

529
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,200
Speaker 1: didn't do it for the show. It was my birthday,

530
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 1: but he gave me. He looked out for me because

531
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Speaker 1: it was my birthday. And I'm gonna I'm gonna say

532
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:26,119
Speaker 1: that because after I did this show, he made what

533
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Speaker 1: eight hundred and some thousand views off of that when

534
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 1: he did Yeah and that that interview, that Kating interview

535
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Speaker 1: put you on the map to do the lad interview

536
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Speaker 1: and then got me the straight You got me Gangster

537
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,159
Speaker 1: Chronicles the whole now. But guess what's gonna happen to

538
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Speaker 1: me when I called Dame Dash and say hey, I

539
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,400
Speaker 1: want to interview for Street Gangs or Street TV. What's

540
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 1: he gonna say to me? He's gonna say, hell no,

541
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Speaker 1: who are you? No, He's gonna say, um, five hundred

542
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:54,160
Speaker 1: dollars or six hundred dollars. I'm like, why, oh, well,

543
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 1: Adam gave me five hundred dollars, why not? Why not you?

544
00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:59,359
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna be like, all right, what did you know?

545
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,199
Speaker 1: He worked for the I don't think he's worth it.

546
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 1: You don't think I don't think any interview, and from

547
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 1: from my perspective, there's no interview worth paying money for.

548
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 1: From a journalistic perspective, it's just not worth it. You

549
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:13,720
Speaker 1: know what. The funny thing when Dame asked for that

550
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 1: five hundred, I took it as throughout my whole life

551
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 1: of dealing with dudes from the hood, a dude from

552
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,119
Speaker 1: the hood will be very smart about being able to

553
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,959
Speaker 1: feel you out for exactly what you are willing to

554
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,359
Speaker 1: give up and like ask you for it, like you know,

555
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 1: you know how. This is the dude who will ask

556
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 1: you for a dollar or five dollars outside the corner

557
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,879
Speaker 1: store or whatever. I saw that as Dame literally he

558
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 1: don't probably don't need five hundred dollars, but he knew

559
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 1: I would give him five hundred dollars. He didn't ask

560
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,439
Speaker 1: for two thousand. I might. I really probably would have

561
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,640
Speaker 1: said no to two thousand. He asked for the exact

562
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:44,680
Speaker 1: right amount that I would give him, and he got it.

563
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Speaker 1: You're a smart guy, and there's done wrong with that.

564
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:52,399
Speaker 1: And you know what, if you hit up Glad and said, yo,

565
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 1: let me get a stack before I come and do

566
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 1: this interview, he'd probably be like, all right, Oh, he

567
00:25:58,040 --> 00:25:59,880
Speaker 1: definitely will do it. I just don't think you're you're

568
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 1: not as conniving as dam as to like think about

569
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 1: like I bet I get motherfucker. I'm I'm like this.

570
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,360
Speaker 1: If I come one time, if I come two times,

571
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 1: and you know it's good, then I think you should

572
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 1: be willing to look out for that person that's that's

573
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,719
Speaker 1: that's actually putting money in your pocket. Well, someone like

574
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,639
Speaker 1: lad who's willing to pay, will definitely pay you to

575
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,360
Speaker 1: come on there next time. I don't see Black Wednesday

576
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 1: and I'm not tripping off you know, really not tripping

577
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 1: off of it. But then I say, damn, we made

578
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,719
Speaker 1: all that I made, you know what I'm saying. So

579
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 1: it's it's it should just throw the air like that,

580
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:40,160
Speaker 1: And that's how I'll be feeling. But doing this podcast, man,

581
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 1: it made me realize and see a lot of ship.

582
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 1: You know, it's politics and this ship. You know what

583
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:49,879
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Do everybody that got these platforms is getting paid,

584
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 1: But you gotta be willing to look out for the

585
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:55,440
Speaker 1: people that's that's getting your platform up here. I will

586
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,159
Speaker 1: say that. I'm just I can tell you this, No

587
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:01,440
Speaker 1: one interview makes or breaks the platform that's where I'm

588
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 1: speaking on the people in photo people, but go ahead

589
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 1: and at him. I was just gonna say that, Like,

590
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 1: from my perspective, if I had never made any of

591
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 1: the YouTube money, it still would have been worth it

592
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 1: for me to do all these interviews because I got

593
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 1: a name off it, I got a lot of respect

594
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 1: off of it. I met a fucking shipload of people

595
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 1: that I probably made a lot of money that I

596
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 1: don't even trace it back in my head to the podcast.

597
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 1: Like my motivation when I started doing podcast was literally

598
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 1: like I live in l A and I don't really

599
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:28,919
Speaker 1: know nobody, and I'm trying to meet you know, I

600
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 1: was in the BMX world. I'm running bikes making BMX

601
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 1: videos for ten years, twenty years, and like it was

602
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 1: that was my whole life. But BMX has a promise

603
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 1: it's his own world, Like it's not really communicating with

604
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 1: the outside world that much. None of the bike rider

605
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 1: dudes that I knew knew any rappers or knew anybody

606
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,360
Speaker 1: from hip hop publication or anything like that. So that's

607
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 1: really why I started doing podcast, is like I want

608
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 1: to just have a good excuse to meet people and

609
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 1: to be and I knew that just from meeting people

610
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 1: that I'd be able to form some connections that would

611
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,120
Speaker 1: give me where I was going. You know. And there's

612
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 1: a few rappers that you're the first one to interview him.

613
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,879
Speaker 1: Guess who guests one of the rappers. He's the first

614
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,399
Speaker 1: one to interview. He's the first one to interview this rapper.

615
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 1: We talked about him on the show many times. Unbelievable, Nah,

616
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 1: not too pop your boy Takashi sixth Oh my god,

617
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,919
Speaker 1: you got the first to Kashi sixth nine interview, right,

618
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 1: the realist rapper of all turn. Let me ask you this,

619
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 1: when you when you were interviewing these rappers and you're

620
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 1: listening to these guys in the hip hop world, do

621
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 1: you be do you ever think like this cat is

622
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 1: full of ship? Not saying it, but just look interview

623
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 1: year was that when you got him? Shit? I think

624
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 1: it was or something. I mean, I knew him even

625
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 1: before that, because I a should remember that when I

626
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 1: met him had I think fifteen thousand followers we did

627
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 1: that interview, he had I think sixty thousand followers, and

628
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 1: I remember the next day, twenty four hours after he

629
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 1: did the interview, he had seventy thousand followers, and then

630
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 1: I was like, oh ship, this dude is really he's

631
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: going up fast. But I mean I knew he was

632
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:58,479
Speaker 1: full of ship. To be honest, It's like the more

633
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 1: and more interviews that I do, the hard her it

634
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 1: is sometimes to do an interview with a rapper like

635
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 1: him who is all bullshit and glitz and polish and

636
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 1: hair diving. I bet you never thought he would be

637
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 1: on the Breakfast Club though. I never thought he would

638
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 1: be saying he was a blood. I never thought he

639
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 1: would be on the Breakfast Club. I never thought a

640
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 1: lot of ship, you know. I never thought he'd be

641
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 1: beefing with y G. You did one interview with a

642
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 1: guy named Cass Yeah, and he was in the same

643
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 1: motorcycle club as I. Oh yeah, just listening to just

644
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 1: just listen to how people you know put theirself here,

645
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 1: okay me personally keeping one hunting and you will stay

646
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 1: right here. Ain't nobody that big and getting down like that,

647
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 1: and then sitting at the table at the round table,

648
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 1: stopped putting too much on certain things, and and it

649
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 1: wouldn't be I wanted to come on your show so

650
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 1: bad when he came on there. But then she get

651
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 1: all together I know I'm getting an email from him

652
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 1: about this. Well, I went through the club and you know,

653
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 1: getting at the president in the Nationals and some of

654
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 1: the club brothers to tell him to leave, stop talking

655
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 1: about Reggie, let it go. But he just kept on

656
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 1: and kept on. So I couldn't tell Reggie to stop.

657
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 1: Reggie winning many times, many times, but he went in

658
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 1: on him so hard. I think it he backed up.

659
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 1: I think has backed up off of how hard Reggie

660
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 1: and it seemed like he disappeared, it was all over

661
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 1: with and then now he's coming back. So by Reggie again,

662
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 1: Reggie is gone, you know what I'm saying. So I

663
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 1: know he'll be back on your show. And he called

664
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 1: this ship something else now and ain't too many people

665
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 1: watching him because Reggie. It's like Reggie black Baldy was something.

666
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 1: Reggie destroyed that they had this little internet online beef.

667
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna have to give Reggie the title for

668
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 1: for that beef. Uh. He went in thoroughly went in

669
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 1: on him, well, exposed basically the exactly the only it

670
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 1: was easy because he was lying. The only thing I

671
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 1: said he was lying about and I don't believe it's

672
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 1: when he went in there with the fifteen Death Row members,

673
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 1: and he went and took tupac shit. For number one,

674
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 1: it ain't gonna happened like that. You beat the Reggie

675
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 1: and Ship at the same time, then you went and

676
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 1: went through fifteen cats just you three. Hey, A lot

677
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,239
Speaker 1: of people don't understand how Death Row was man and

678
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 1: how vicious it was. And I can give you names

679
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 1: of every motherfucker, but I ain't that that worked for

680
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 1: Death Row. And they was all vicious, all penitentiary cats,

681
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 1: and all of them been in penitentiary more than four

682
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 1: or five times. All of them was over to forty

683
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 1: two fifty muscle muscle, and I'm talking about all that

684
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 1: didn't give a fuck, worked for a bonus. If I

685
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 1: get this cat, they know they got a bonus. If

686
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,239
Speaker 1: I knock out this cat, they got a bonus. And

687
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 1: I didn't see him going nowhere around Death Row and

688
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 1: and and taking it down like that. M I didn't

689
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 1: see that. So it was like, did you get any

690
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 1: feedback from that CAS interview after you did it? Negative

691
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 1: feedback about because he did say some very outlandish things

692
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 1: in that interview. I don't know. I feel like I

693
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 1: might have been checked out on the feedback to it.

694
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 1: Sometimes I feel like I get you know, obviously it

695
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 1: could get a little complicated. I'd be interviewing people. I

696
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 1: definitely had Whack on the phone with me the other day,

697
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 1: not happy about him being a frequent topic of conversation

698
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 1: with a lot of people I've been interviewing lately. You know,

699
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 1: it's always it's always complicated, but you know, to a

700
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 1: certain extent, I just kind of stay out of it,

701
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 1: right right. Well, we went into that that big Cas

702
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 1: issue in depth on a previous episode of The Gangster Chronicles.

703
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 1: I think if you go back to around episode twenty

704
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 1: for those of you who are new to The Gangster Chronicles,

705
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 1: you can learn some more about the beef that Reggie

706
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 1: Wright Jr. And Cars had online. How much check that out?

707
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 1: I need to. It was for real. And then I'm

708
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: you know, my old thing is I wrote motorcycles with him.

709
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 1: He came to he started at my chapter in Vegas,

710
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 1: and I'm thinking, I'm not I know this guy, and

711
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 1: why would he say something like that? Why is he

712
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 1: talking like that? Me and him never discussed me working

713
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 1: with death or being you know, homeboys would shoot, none

714
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 1: of that. You know, he was always cats from the

715
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 1: sixties or I've been to prison. You can look at

716
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 1: him to say, Okay, you probably have you tat it,

717
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 1: YadA YadA. But you know, I just think some people

718
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 1: just just go a little over with it, you know

719
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, and not knowing who you really fucking with,

720
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 1: who you talking to, and who you know, so you

721
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 1: quick to speak on ship and all these people know

722
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 1: the same I'm talking about. I'm always fascinated by like

723
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 1: the gang ship and the motorcycle ship touching because like

724
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 1: where I'm from in the Northeast, Like I ain't really

725
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 1: like blood and crips and fucking New Hampshire and Boston

726
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 1: and ship as far as I know, but the motorcycle

727
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 1: do is all the scariest dudes where I'm from. For sure.

728
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 1: We was in one of the prettiest, roughest in California

729
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 1: to chosen few, Okay, we we we had our share

730
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 1: of bullshit b as the whole nine, and we rode

731
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 1: out bikes like we didn't give up about nothing. Yeah,

732
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:13,919
Speaker 1: so we're gonna have to talk about that one time.

733
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 1: I mean, Laconia, New Hampshire is where they do the

734
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,839
Speaker 1: bike races or whatever. It always you wouldn't know because

735
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 1: you would see a thousand motherfucker's on Harley's coming down

736
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 1: the highway at the same time that she was crazy.

737
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 1: Growing up. I'm surprised at how many police officers are

738
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 1: actually in a lot of these motorcycle clubs. Yeah, well

739
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 1: me personally, and you couldn't. You were cool, but you

740
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 1: ain't gonna be in my circle. Because when I was

741
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:44,280
Speaker 1: in the motorcycle club and and we had police officers

742
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 1: in Vegas, Hey, hey, what's up? We called you, But

743
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 1: father has been in my circle. Now you can't. You

744
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 1: can't open the club right here. You ain't gonna open

745
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,879
Speaker 1: the club over there. So but right now to day,

746
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 1: they're all cool and they and they all all accepted.

747
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 1: Everybody deal with him. You know what I'm saying. Police

748
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 1: are just like us, man. But just in two thousand eleven,

749
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 1: the Chosen Few were part of a police takedown investigation.

750
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 1: Always Ship Always We was on a hunt in and

751
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 1: eight right down the street from the police station and

752
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 1: Chosen you've been there for a long time. You had guys,

753
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 1: one of my brothers standing up at the gate and

754
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 1: popping off his pistol. You know what I'm saying. And

755
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,240
Speaker 1: This is what they had to deal with on that block.

756
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 1: You know, our laws don't give a fuck. So you

757
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 1: had all these guys standing out on the park I

758
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 1: do on the sidewalk, smoking weed, drinking, the the noise,

759
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 1: the music on the bikes, and they got tired of it.

760
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:52,359
Speaker 1: So you know, some brothers was getting raided and going

761
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 1: to jail. They started finding the drugs and all that

762
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 1: other ship. So we had to shut that that that

763
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 1: club I was down, and the trouble just followed. My

764
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: my chapter had issues. You know, a cat was killed.

765
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 1: You know in my chapter. He was one of my

766
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 1: club brothers, and and he wasn't crazy, he was his

767
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 1: army cat, and he really had problems. And ship happened,

768
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 1: and you know, the police were just on us. It

769
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 1: was just on this. Eventually, Cas was either kicked out

770
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 1: or left chosen. You know what, I ain't gonna say

771
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,720
Speaker 1: kicked out. I think he did what idea, walked away

772
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:34,320
Speaker 1: because the bullshit just continued, you know what I'm saying.

773
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 1: And now that they ain't taking off or shooting at

774
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 1: this motorcycle club, we're doing each other. Now. I just

775
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 1: left that type of ship, so it's time to go.

776
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,720
Speaker 1: I'm not going to prison behind no half of punks

777
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 1: or nothing else. So it was time for me to go.

778
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: But I mean, it's it's it's something totally different than

779
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: what it what it used to be. My powers was

780
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: a chosen people for forty years. You got forty years

781
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,840
Speaker 1: in the same club. So children definitely go back to

782
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 1: the forties and fifties. But back to the you know,

783
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 1: he's in the news today. He's trying to get out,

784
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 1: trying to get out right now. So why I didn't

785
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: let him out. Well, he's still got to do is

786
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 1: twenty four months, which will have him out in July

787
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 1: of but he's trying to get out earlier than that.

788
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,359
Speaker 1: He's blood is gonna ki him ji, Yeah, he said.

789
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 1: The lawyer fouled the motion said, it's it's unsafe for him.

790
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 1: Even though he's in a private he's in a private

791
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 1: federal prison. If you look him up on the BP website,

792
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,280
Speaker 1: he doesn't come up. They put him in a private

793
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,879
Speaker 1: facility that you can't even see his name, you can't

794
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 1: even see when his release date is. I feel like

795
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 1: when you got the million dollars lawyers, that they're just

796
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 1: doing whatever they can that might have a tiny chance

797
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 1: of getting you out or whatever. So they're just making

798
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:50,839
Speaker 1: up some bullshit trying to get him out of there,

799
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 1: even though he probably doing that for the money, because yeah,

800
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,760
Speaker 1: I found this motion for you's gonna cause you forty grand.

801
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 1: Every every motion they found, they're getting paid for it.

802
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: I said on this show a couple of weeks ago

803
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 1: that even though July is twenty four months as a

804
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,439
Speaker 1: release date, you'll probably get out sooner than that from

805
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 1: taking advantage of a federal program or like this lawyer

806
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 1: is trying to file emotions for him to come home now,

807
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: and they might have to let him out because he

808
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 1: worked for the government. He gave them what they wanted,

809
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 1: and now he's saying, hey, I don't want to be

810
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 1: in here. It's not safe. They there's a whole bunch

811
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 1: of them that did that, and they got places for

812
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 1: motherfucker's that told on the next cat they're gonna put

813
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 1: you in the old somewhere and shut you on the

814
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 1: yard with He just want to go home. No, hey, no,

815
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 1: you he's gonna get out sooner than July. No, you shouldn't.

816
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 1: You shouldn't. I already going back to New York. If

817
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,839
Speaker 1: he go back to the Bronx. Then, man, it's all

818
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 1: watered down. I mean, the whole thing is that when

819
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 1: he was because I think about it, I got a

820
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 1: store on Melrose. We interviewed this motherfucker when he's like

821
00:38:56,680 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 1: basically nobody. Less than a year later, he is sucking

822
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 1: down Melrows with like nine fucking security guards, like three

823
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 1: thousand pounds worth of men around this motherfucker. He got

824
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 1: real cops with guns and ship like, and you know,

825
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:16,240
Speaker 1: by that point that actually was a reasonable security precaution,

826
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,280
Speaker 1: Like there really were a million I've had. People won't

827
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 1: tell me, but people tell me, like yo, like people

828
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 1: were really like this dude was really driving around like

829
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 1: looking for him, blah blah blah. This dude's crazy, you know.

830
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I just wonder what that's gonna look like

831
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 1: when he gets out, Like is he gonna like how

832
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 1: is he gonna be able to get by with that

833
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 1: amount of security? Does he need that? Like this has

834
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 1: been bizarre. Well, in Brooklyn, he's definitely gonna need it.

835
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 1: But I think he can come to Hollywood and pretty

836
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 1: much he's such a dickhead if he stays in Brooklyn,

837
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 1: like at least go out to Long Island is something

838
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 1: you don't think you're gonna be able to come here.

839
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 1: He had to fight an r A X one time. Yea,

840
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,800
Speaker 1: who the l he ain't he ain't, he ain't gonna

841
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: do that? And now who whoever? W do you tell

842
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 1: him you can't hang out like that no more? I

843
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 1: wonder what his attitude is going to be, because if

844
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 1: I were him, you know, you can go get a

845
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:08,919
Speaker 1: house in Miami with a bunch of security or something

846
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 1: and get away from everybody. But I don't know if

847
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 1: he's got the if he's humble enough to realize maybe

848
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 1: you shouldn't be around all the hot spots. You got

849
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 1: a chance of getting the first interview of him when

850
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 1: he gets out, if you would take it, if you

851
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 1: do it, because he don't sunk with me at a

852
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 1: certain point, because I just kind of stopped talking to him,

853
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 1: like we we did that interview, and then he tried

854
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 1: to hit me up a few times, and I wasn't

855
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 1: really working with him, and I think he always like

856
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 1: I didn't like the fact that I like embraced him

857
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 1: enough to do that interview, but I kept my distance

858
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 1: because you know, I just thought he was a fucking dork,

859
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 1: you know, so if you got that, would you do

860
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 1: an interview? I would do the interview, but I'd be

861
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 1: hyper hyper critical. It's not gonna be a nice interview.

862
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 1: It's gonna be like, let's talk about all this bitch

863
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 1: as like you know, we're really gonna have to talk

864
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 1: about it. Like I feel like he would rather go

865
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 1: do an academics interview because academics is a friend of me,

866
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 1: and you know, like because Takashi sapped me being cool

867
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: with me, like just because I didn't I didn't like

868
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 1: fully accept him. You know. I did the interview, but

869
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 1: I knew him for like six months before I did

870
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 1: that interview, and he was hitting me up NonStop for

871
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,839
Speaker 1: the interview, and I was ignoring him. I only did

872
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 1: the interview because he had that song popping off a

873
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 1: trippy red and he was like just starting to actually

874
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: really get popping, and I actually felt like all people

875
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 1: are working with him. So I did the interview, but

876
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 1: then I didn't really like embrace him like that, and

877
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 1: then he after that he never acknowledged me. Anything I

878
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 1: would say about him. He wouldn't respond because I think

879
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 1: he knew that like once he got really big that

880
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 1: any sort of interaction with me would only help me,

881
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 1: So he never would even respond when I wasn't like

882
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 1: going crazy talking about him, but I would say, honest

883
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:37,760
Speaker 1: that shit about him. I would never get a response

884
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 1: because I think he knew that, like just by talking

885
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 1: with me, that would be like a gift, because he

886
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 1: was so big that he was just anybody who had

887
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 1: anything to do with him was getting the hell of

888
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 1: followers and etcetera. You know, you don't think he'll come

889
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 1: out more humble this time, considering he's an informant. He's

890
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,839
Speaker 1: gotta walk on eggshells. He's gotta be careful where he goes.

891
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 1: I've never seen a rapper come out and do a

892
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 1: good job of like represent in themselves after they go

893
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 1: and do a bunch of hot shting courts. So I

894
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 1: don't know what the fund is gonna look like. I'm

895
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 1: excited to see it from like a you know, from

896
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 1: like a perspective of a guy who like watches movies

897
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,359
Speaker 1: and watching this six nine movie unfold in front of us,

898
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 1: and I'm just interested to see, like how can he

899
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 1: possibly pull this role off? So I don't know, I

900
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 1: don't see it happening. Getting out of jail, sitting at

901
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 1: a table, pointing and telling you got cash doing twenty

902
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:35,840
Speaker 1: years you got the homies is in the beds because

903
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 1: of you. You can't go back to Yeah, you can't

904
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,320
Speaker 1: go back in that circle. You go back in this circle.

905
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 1: One of those guys gonna do something to you. Man.

906
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,359
Speaker 1: And and I hove that little boy. Go buy has

907
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 1: been Just go somewhere and find another place. And and

908
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 1: don't be childish with this one because when you get out,

909
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 1: he's gonna have to go somewhere. But it ain't right.

910
00:42:56,600 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 1: There ain't nobody that humble. Well, that guy Alpo, I

911
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:02,800
Speaker 1: don't know if you're familiar with Alpo from back in

912
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 1: the eighties. He came back to New York, came back

913
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 1: to Harlem. This guy told on a whole bunch of people,

914
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 1: but he kind of kept yeah, keep it love. He

915
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 1: kept a low profile, but he definitely showed himself to

916
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 1: say I'm here. But he's careful about how he moves.

917
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 1: But you know, his his crimes are what twenty five

918
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 1: years ago? Twenty years ago. So a lot of those

919
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,919
Speaker 1: dudes are probably not around anymore. But let me remind

920
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 1: everybody that you're listening to an episode of the Gangster

921
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 1: Chronicles and if you listen to us on Apple Podcast,

922
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 1: please dove for us a rating and review one to five,

923
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,919
Speaker 1: five being that you love the show. And for those

924
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 1: of you who don't have iTunes or Apple, we're on

925
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:45,839
Speaker 1: Google Play and um and Spotify as well. And don't

926
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 1: forget that video portions of this show are available on

927
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:52,879
Speaker 1: the Digital Soapbox Network YouTube channel and that those are

928
00:43:53,840 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 1: produced by Smooth Cut Productions and Adam what's next for you, man,

929
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 1: We're just getting into a lot more sophisticated, advanced content

930
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,839
Speaker 1: that goes beyond just the interviews. That's how I would

931
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 1: describe it. Like basically we're working on like what our

932
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: version of the news looks like. We got a partnership

933
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 1: with Snapchat that we're working on where it's basically going

934
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 1: to be producing a lot of like news and conversation

935
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 1: about news on a level that we haven't done so far,

936
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 1: and just trying to you know, we're moving into a

937
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:29,319
Speaker 1: new space, just trying to really like reevaluate and like

938
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 1: I just did a week off in Mexico, just laying

939
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 1: on the beach, just thinking about my content. And I

940
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:36,839
Speaker 1: came back and I was like, you know, we were

941
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 1: doing the thing where we were posting were posting music

942
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:42,319
Speaker 1: video on the channel for a couple of thousand dollars, right.

943
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 1: I was just I can't. I was sitting there on

944
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 1: the beach. I'm like, I don't want to do that

945
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 1: bullshit anymore. You know, it's not worth it, like just

946
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:51,800
Speaker 1: to make thirty dollars a month off of posting music videos.

947
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 1: But I don't feel good about looking at my YouTube

948
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 1: channel and knowing that there's a bunch of ship on

949
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 1: there that people just paid to be there, you know.

950
00:44:58,360 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 1: I was just like, I got back from the thing

951
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 1: and I'm like, you know, I don't give a funk

952
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 1: about the money, and we're not doing that anymore. I

953
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 1: want every time somebody sees a piece of content go

954
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 1: up on on the YouTube channel, I want them to

955
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 1: really know that's something that we believe in. Because some

956
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 1: of those videos, you don't even probably like them, I

957
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 1: don't even probably watch them. Watch how many subscribers do

958
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 1: you have to get before you start getting the attention

959
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 1: from corporate America? You mentioned Snapchat and other other groups.

960
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, we're at three point two million,

961
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 1: but I mean I always had, you know, different levels

962
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 1: of attention and stuff. Even when I had a couple

963
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 1: hundred thousands subscribers. You know, I was having you know,

964
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 1: but there's so much you gotta say no to everything.

965
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 1: You know, you gotta just keep saying no. It all

966
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 1: the cornina ship that people try to throw you. In

967
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 1: the beginning, I remember there was just a TV producer,

968
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 1: dudeho came to me. He wanted to do like a

969
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 1: reality show about my store of my life and ship.

970
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 1: And I was, you know, I'm talking on and stuff.

971
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm kind of agreeing to at least enter

972
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 1: into some preliminary talks and ship. He's like, all right,

973
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 1: I gotta come by your show. I gotta take some

974
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 1: pictures of you. I'm like allright. Bet. He goes, um,

975
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 1: can you take your shirt off? I'm like no. He's

976
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 1: like why not. I'm like, because I ain't doing that

977
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 1: gass ship. I ain't taking my fucking shirt off for

978
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:11,240
Speaker 1: a photo in my own bike shop. And I'm just thinking,

979
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, holy sh it, this is what corporate America

980
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 1: tries to do to you. They just try to make

981
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:19,280
Speaker 1: you the most bastardized, lamest version of who you actually

982
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 1: are because they don't understand who you are, and and

983
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 1: it's not like you know, in context, it's all kind

984
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 1: of I see rappers walking down Melrose with no shirt

985
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:28,839
Speaker 1: on all the time. But you know, for me, I'm

986
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 1: not gonna go beat and especially I was fatter than

987
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 1: so I really didn't want to take my shirt off.

988
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:34,959
Speaker 1: But like you know, it's just like all the corporate ship.

989
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 1: Like I was, I was listening to Joe Buddy. He's

990
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,359
Speaker 1: talking about he turned down ten million dollar deals first

991
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 1: podcast on the Ship. I'm like, that's that's beautiful. That

992
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 1: to me, if you can get to the point where

993
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 1: you believe in the ship that you're making so much

994
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 1: that you can turn down ten million dollars, Wow, that's

995
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:50,799
Speaker 1: a beautiful thing. And I have so much respect for that,

996
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 1: so much pride even just hearing that, knowing that somebody

997
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 1: in this culture was in a position to turn down

998
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 1: a big gas media company trying to give him that bag.

999
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 1: You know, well, you recently posted the video if you're

1000
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 1: doing some of your BMX riding, and it seems like

1001
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 1: the people missed it. They really loved it. It seemed

1002
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 1: to me the reaction to that video was basically just saying,

1003
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 1: we don't like a lot of the other stuff you've

1004
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 1: been posting at them. This is where, this is what

1005
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 1: we love. And that video got how many views? It's

1006
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:18,959
Speaker 1: like a quarter million, but it's only in a few days. Yeah,

1007
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:20,880
Speaker 1: that's pretty good, just for a couple of days, quarter

1008
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 1: million views. I think I forget that, Like, my audience

1009
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:26,839
Speaker 1: is not an audience that only wants to see hip hop.

1010
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,760
Speaker 1: I feel like they want to see the culture overall.

1011
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 1: They want to see the BMX riding and the skateboarder

1012
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:35,319
Speaker 1: and the graffiti and the the wild ass girls talking

1013
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 1: about that, porno movies and like all kinds of ship.

1014
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 1: You know. It's like, like people appreciate our content, I

1015
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 1: think when it gives them this like an overall fun

1016
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 1: experience of watching it. So that's a big part of

1017
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 1: I feel like in nineteen I just doubled down on

1018
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 1: doing interviews because I was like, you know what, I

1019
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 1: make the most money doing interviews. Interviews of the thing

1020
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:55,359
Speaker 1: that I can do the most of because I can

1021
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,319
Speaker 1: go and do three four interviews in a day, and

1022
00:47:58,560 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 1: but at the end of the day, you know, I

1023
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 1: was getting turned out, like doing too many interviews I

1024
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 1: didn't give a shit about, but you know at the

1025
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 1: same time. You know that the other day I did

1026
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 1: forty Glock and O G. Maco Like I got three

1027
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 1: million subscribers. A lot of my subscribers are not gonna

1028
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 1: give a funk about either of those people, But to

1029
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:15,359
Speaker 1: me as a hip hop fan, they both have very

1030
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 1: very interesting stories, very interesting perspectives. I wanted to hear

1031
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:21,479
Speaker 1: Forty talk to me about running down applies, which got

1032
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 1: exposed by Jamie Foxx. I don't know if you remember

1033
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 1: the story. He just he pulled up on flies on

1034
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 1: like to test him about some ship I don't even

1035
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 1: know what it was, and plies ran and hitting the

1036
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 1: bathroom and locked the doors on the bathroom and like.

1037
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 1: But nobody ever knew until Jamie fox talked about it

1038
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,240
Speaker 1: in an interview, Which is just so funny that Jamie

1039
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 1: Foxx is the reason that anybody even knows about forty

1040
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 1: Glock doing some gamester shipped applies. But I mean, you know,

1041
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 1: I was just happy as fun to actually be able

1042
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 1: to ask him about that and get to hear is

1043
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,359
Speaker 1: his version of that account, you know, Like, I mean,

1044
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 1: I just for me, I was like a hip hop fan.

1045
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 1: It's like I was trying not to get jaded from

1046
00:48:58,280 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 1: the fact that I just had so much fun talking

1047
00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:03,280
Speaker 1: to people about whatever. You like to interview gangster stuff

1048
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 1: as well. I like it, not exclusively, and I definitely

1049
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 1: feel out of my depths a lot of times with

1050
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 1: that ship, because that's just not like where I'm coming from,

1051
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 1: you know. I always like ship when I got a

1052
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 1: security guard who just knows all the street politics in

1053
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:19,360
Speaker 1: l A. That's the best is somebody you can just ask, like, so,

1054
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 1: what's up with those? You know? You interviewed a guy

1055
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 1: that I I got his first interview ever done, stupid

1056
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:28,359
Speaker 1: young That was a great kid right there. Yeah. I

1057
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 1: interviewed him like two thousand and thirteen before anybody kne

1058
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:33,240
Speaker 1: who this dude was because he was like a different

1059
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:35,759
Speaker 1: rapper and like two twelve, two thirteen, he was very

1060
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,800
Speaker 1: much like Chicago influenced, like Chief Keith, like an Asian

1061
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 1: Chief Keith and Long Beach, and it was just something

1062
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 1: about him. I said, you know what, I'm gonna come

1063
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 1: down to Long Beach and mess with you. Um. I

1064
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 1: like your swag, I like your style. And then I

1065
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 1: did a second interview with him, still nobody knew he was.

1066
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:51,800
Speaker 1: He went to prison, got out I did the interview

1067
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 1: as soon as he got out of prison and did

1068
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,319
Speaker 1: another interview with him, and then right after that he

1069
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 1: just blew up. Yeah, that ship was crazy because I

1070
00:49:57,600 --> 00:49:59,879
Speaker 1: lived in Long Beach about two three blocks from where

1071
00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:02,319
Speaker 1: he lived and where we filmed that video for from

1072
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:04,799
Speaker 1: two thousand ten to like two thousand and thirteen. I

1073
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 1: just lived over there. We lived in a big gass

1074
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:10,479
Speaker 1: house with like ten thirteen BMX riders living under one roof.

1075
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:13,839
Speaker 1: And yeah, and we were just out riding BMX every day.

1076
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 1: And I did not know that there was Cambodian gang

1077
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 1: wars going on around the corner. That's a little Cambodia. Um, James,

1078
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 1: what did you want to know? I wanted to talk

1079
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 1: about I've seen when I was doing my little little

1080
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 1: information thing. Who was Russ? Somebody like jumped you. You

1081
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:37,759
Speaker 1: know they just say Russ right now? No, that'd be

1082
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 1: that would be a fire story. Trustal Simmons wants to

1083
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 1: get me set up. Now. That was just basically like

1084
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:47,280
Speaker 1: there's a rapper that we're cool. Now, we worked through ships,

1085
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 1: talked about or whatever. This is rapper Russ. He's like,

1086
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 1: uh was the Albanian so he you know, he's from Atlanta.

1087
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 1: He's cool, like he makes music is super popular. It's not.

1088
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 1: It's definitely not gangster music or anything like that. He's singing.

1089
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,280
Speaker 1: He's like a lot of his fan bases, like college

1090
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:03,319
Speaker 1: kids and ship like that. And I was talking wild

1091
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 1: Shot about him for a while at the y well

1092
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 1: completely unrelated to to that, well related, but I didn't know.

1093
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 1: One day, randomly, I'm just sitting getting a manicure on

1094
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 1: the block of Melrose. I don't know if you've ever

1095
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 1: got your nails done, James, but no, you gotta try it.

1096
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 1: So I'm I'm sitting there get my nails done, and

1097
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 1: I know where I'm knowing. I'm on Melrose, which is

1098
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 1: my block at that moment, and I got my hood on,

1099
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:28,880
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, you know, facing away from the

1100
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:30,800
Speaker 1: door so I can get my nails now. Much in retrospect,

1101
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 1: I probably should have been facing towards the door so

1102
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 1: that I could see the threat coming. But I thought

1103
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 1: if I was facing away from it, nobody would even

1104
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 1: think that I was in there at all. And all

1105
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 1: of a sudden, I just here Adam twenty two, and

1106
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 1: I go like this, and there's some big black dude

1107
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:45,959
Speaker 1: and he, oh, it just punches me in the head.

1108
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 1: You only like kind of hit me right here and

1109
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 1: didn't really like get me or anything. And then I

1110
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 1: think I got hit again on the top of the head,

1111
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 1: and then i'm you know, by the time I jump up,

1112
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:58,319
Speaker 1: they're out. I didn't see anybody filming. I didn't have

1113
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:00,880
Speaker 1: any fucking clue. So I'm asking everybody I know in

1114
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 1: l a yo, like, who the funk has a problem

1115
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 1: with me? Who who would have done that? You know,

1116
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:07,879
Speaker 1: nobody got any fucking answers. So when actually the guy

1117
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,839
Speaker 1: he was talking about it was just people, it was yes.

1118
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:13,399
Speaker 1: But then I didn't find that out for like a year,

1119
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:17,280
Speaker 1: and randomly Russ is on DJ Academics his live stream

1120
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 1: and he said something like that, motherfucker, I'm twenty two

1121
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 1: got it too, and but like the stream fucked up

1122
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 1: so you couldn't really hear exactly what he's saying. But

1123
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:28,799
Speaker 1: academics hit me up and goes yo. Russ said this

1124
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 1: because the academics, I only told a couple of people

1125
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 1: that I got jumped. I told like x Lad and

1126
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 1: fucking academics, just like three random people I confided in

1127
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 1: that I just mentioned it too and hit me. He goes, Yo,

1128
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 1: that thing you told me about where you got jumped

1129
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:46,799
Speaker 1: in in the nail salon. He's like, I think that

1130
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:49,720
Speaker 1: was about the thing with Russ and I'm I started

1131
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 1: thinking about it. I'm like, oh, man, that makes a

1132
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 1: lot of sense. And I started thinking about and at

1133
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 1: first I wasn't gonna say anything cause I'm like, nobody

1134
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 1: knows like I jumped, so I don't even have to

1135
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 1: say anything. Nobody even knows I got. I got punked up,

1136
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 1: and then I started thinking about more and more. I

1137
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 1: got mad and I was like, I just called him out.

1138
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 1: Me and him are arguing about it on Twitter or whatever.

1139
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 1: But then actually Bootleg keV got us on the phone

1140
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 1: and we just kind of talked about it and ended

1141
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:14,240
Speaker 1: up just sort of squashing it or whatever. I'll admit

1142
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 1: I was being a bully. I was going in on

1143
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:17,840
Speaker 1: this motherfucker, and I didn't really have a reason to

1144
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 1: be doing it. So in retrospect, you know, I don't

1145
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 1: really like do that with rappers anymore. If if if there's

1146
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 1: a rapper, I don't like. I've just seen too many

1147
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 1: generations of young rappers coming up that even if there's

1148
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:30,800
Speaker 1: a rapper I don't like. I just kind of hold

1149
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:33,279
Speaker 1: my tongue let him do his thing. Was up and

1150
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:35,360
Speaker 1: coming rapper at the time. To be honest, he was

1151
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:38,359
Speaker 1: already pretty established, like he's been big for a couple

1152
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 1: of years now, so but I definitely didn't think he

1153
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 1: was gonna send some hitters at me. So shout out

1154
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 1: to him actually, honestly for catching me slacking up. You

1155
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 1: think he tracked you down or it was just coincidental

1156
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 1: that you were at the same spot. I mean, to

1157
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 1: be real, it was so stupid on my part. That

1158
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 1: was the worst day to be doing that because it

1159
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 1: was a day where we had an event where on

1160
00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:58,880
Speaker 1: social media you could tell that I was at my

1161
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 1: store all day, but when I was actually at the store,

1162
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:03,240
Speaker 1: i'll be surrounded by a whole shipload of my people

1163
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 1: and everything. But then I actually snuck off by myself

1164
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:07,320
Speaker 1: to go to the nail salon, which is stupid. I

1165
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:09,319
Speaker 1: should have had one of my guys come with me.

1166
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 1: I don't know what the funk I was thinking and

1167
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:12,879
Speaker 1: thinking that I didn't need to have somebody come with me.

1168
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 1: But so do you move differently now since you had

1169
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 1: that incident and then you had the fake gun incident, right, James,

1170
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:22,319
Speaker 1: You gotta be careful how you move. It's weird though.

1171
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:24,400
Speaker 1: It's like I go everywhere just like, who would you

1172
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 1: come here with today? And I actually thought you just

1173
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 1: gonna bring a bodyguard with you. I just don't. It's

1174
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 1: so hard for me to accept being famous, and I

1175
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 1: just don't want to admit it, you know, I just

1176
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 1: I'll go to rolling out and bring a bodyguard. Not

1177
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 1: even I don't even bring a bodyguard, bring my homie.

1178
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 1: It just happens to be a big fat guy from

1179
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 1: fucking Long Beach. You know. It's like, I just I

1180
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 1: don't fucking I don't know. It's like it's hard for

1181
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 1: me to really get into that mindset of thinking that

1182
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 1: somebody's gonna really want to suck me up. And I

1183
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 1: don't know. I actually saw you in the airport about

1184
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:56,279
Speaker 1: three months ago and we were in the same term.

1185
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 1: When I said, what's up at him? You didn't even

1186
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:00,319
Speaker 1: look up at me. ACTU was like, all right, this

1187
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 1: dude is he's just not feeling it right now? Oh man,

1188
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 1: that sucks. Yeah. The airport's always a weird one. Yeah,

1189
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:08,919
Speaker 1: you know, I'm just like sucking half out of my mind,

1190
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 1: like just trying. I always feel so ugly and like

1191
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:13,919
Speaker 1: hoodie up, just like I was with my girls. Somebody

1192
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 1: to ask her for a photo and I just see

1193
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 1: it in her eyes, like I'm supposed to be known

1194
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:19,840
Speaker 1: for looking good on camera and you're asking me for

1195
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:21,759
Speaker 1: a photo right now. But damn, I feel like I

1196
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:24,320
Speaker 1: always like say what up to people? So my apologies

1197
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 1: if I didn't hear it or some ship now you

1198
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 1: heard it, you just didn't even look at me. It

1199
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:30,479
Speaker 1: was early in the morning to was about seven seven

1200
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 1: eight am. Yeah, I don't do good like Adam and

1201
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 1: feeling it right now. Yeah, that's crazy. I was probably

1202
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 1: just trying to go to the Hudson News. Oh yeah,

1203
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:48,799
Speaker 1: gets now. I like the lemonade in the airport. That's

1204
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,760
Speaker 1: the l a X thing if you know, you know no, um,

1205
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:55,320
Speaker 1: I could smell the Roman air. James Jesus and uh,

1206
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 1: you're pretty big on your A big proponent. Is it

1207
00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 1: fair to say you're a proponent of we cannabis here

1208
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 1: in California, legalization all that? Yeah, I mean I supported

1209
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 1: all that. I'm just like a personal weed smoker, to

1210
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:06,400
Speaker 1: be honest, I don't really feel like I'm all that

1211
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 1: up in the marijuana community necessarily start looking at your shows.

1212
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:14,399
Speaker 1: And I seen you with this jar, and you from

1213
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 1: them with this jar. I said, like, mother, Now, why

1214
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 1: would I go animal because I don't smoke weed? Yeah,

1215
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 1: and he hid in the motherfucking He's gonna start smoking

1216
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 1: and stuff while we're talking, and then I'm gonna be

1217
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 1: all twisted. You actually get high when you do your

1218
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:32,800
Speaker 1: interviews sometimes, but right now the place where we do interviews,

1219
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 1: we can't smoke weed. And only two people have broken

1220
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:37,440
Speaker 1: that role, which is blue Face, because I just you

1221
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 1: can't tell blue Face not smoke, and then uh, Nori,

1222
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:43,759
Speaker 1: you can tell Nori not smoke either, so um our

1223
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 1: next space. Yeah, you know, it's important to me that

1224
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:49,319
Speaker 1: our guests feel comfortable. For the most part, I'm not

1225
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:52,400
Speaker 1: really gonna smoke if the other person isn't smoking. But

1226
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 1: also like just a little bit, like I had this,

1227
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 1: I let this two times so far, and this is

1228
00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 1: like not a lot of weeds. So it's like to me,

1229
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 1: it's just I don't know, I don't really feel all

1230
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 1: like stupid high right now. I don't know if I

1231
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 1: look stupid. Sometimes I see my pictures of myself at

1232
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:07,440
Speaker 1: a festival or some ship, and I'm like, goddamn, I

1233
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 1: look high, like a lot of dudes don't really look

1234
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 1: that high. I'm fucking paleless, fuck in comparison to you

1235
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 1: know a lot of people. I'm around him, so you

1236
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 1: could tell where my eyes are all pink, you know.

1237
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:20,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like black guys don't look as

1238
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 1: high when they high as fun, but they don't look

1239
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 1: pale either, you know. But I feel like me being pale.

1240
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 1: It's like my eyes turning mad pink and you can

1241
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 1: see it. I don't. I don't know. I couldn't feel

1242
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 1: like if you did, you you would hide it a

1243
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 1: little bit better, you know. Well, I guess if you

1244
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 1: want on the show James, Yeah, I've watched him and um,

1245
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:43,440
Speaker 1: what's the way they used to come and do the

1246
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 1: show with the spider Loke ship. There's smoke, black and

1247
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 1: just talking. Yeah, and he and I spied smoking. I'm

1248
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:54,040
Speaker 1: talking about smoking. If I'm comfortable, I can do that.

1249
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 1: You know. If I'm a little nervous on edge, then

1250
00:57:56,480 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 1: I don't want smoke. Yeah, how is it doing it? Of? You? Though? High?

1251
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 1: And you know you gotta kind of have the flow going.

1252
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:06,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm smoking weed all the time anyway, so

1253
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 1: I don't really bother me. I guess, oh yeah, oh yeah,

1254
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you know, like I just bring

1255
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 1: this up, is that one of the craziest titles that

1256
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 1: lad Ever did was a little Bibi All my friends

1257
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 1: were high when they got killed, which is like, yeah,

1258
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 1: all your friends are high all the time because everybody's

1259
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 1: smoking weed all the time. It's like, of course they

1260
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 1: were high when they got killed. But it's like it's

1261
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 1: kind of like a weird framing for that, because it's

1262
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 1: like in reality, like I could say, you know, all

1263
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 1: my friends when they fucking broke their ankle, right and

1264
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 1: BMX were high too, because everybody I know right is

1265
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 1: smoking all the time. It's just kind of so you

1266
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:46,440
Speaker 1: don't think you'd be a better being mixer if you

1267
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Speaker 1: wasn't smoking. I mean, hey, I wonder all the time

1268
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 1: if I would be a better a lot of things

1269
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 1: if I wasn't smoking. I wonder if my girlfriend would

1270
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:54,920
Speaker 1: be pregnant right now if I wasn't smoking. I wonder

1271
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 1: if fucking I'd be able to go longer on the

1272
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 1: treadmill if I wasn't smoking but about to be a weed.

1273
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 1: I mean as you feel like you have any kids already.

1274
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 1: Yet I've been shooting the club up and they worked

1275
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 1: yet though, yeah, nobody died. Now, I wasn't aware of

1276
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 1: marijuana because impact your ability to get a woman pregnant.

1277
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 1: That's what she keeps saying. But I think she's full

1278
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 1: of ship. She doesn't smoke weed. He might have to

1279
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:25,920
Speaker 1: fact check that on next week's episode. That's a great idea.

1280
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 1: It ain't gonna body. Why would it body? I have

1281
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:32,200
Speaker 1: no idea, you know. I mean, it's still a drug,

1282
00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 1: but it's allegedly it could lower your sperm count. But

1283
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 1: I mean you've got millions even if it lowers million sperm.

1284
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:47,680
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. But you want the strong sperm. Yeah.

1285
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:49,440
Speaker 1: I had one of the best comments I ever got

1286
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:51,400
Speaker 1: was a girl tell me that my jis tasted like weed.

1287
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 1: I'm like, is it? Is it inedible? Is it gonna

1288
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 1: get you stone or something? I thought that was incredible,

1289
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 1: But they believe that though I had one to hell,

1290
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:06,440
Speaker 1: me drink a lot of cranberry juice and that's what

1291
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:10,080
Speaker 1: you that's what you taste like. So it might be true. Man,

1292
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:12,479
Speaker 1: we don't find up. We're in the process of making

1293
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 1: your own marijuana, putting together your own Yeah, we have

1294
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 1: a no jumper strain in stores right now. It's been

1295
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 1: it's been slow, to be honest, you know, it's kind

1296
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:24,320
Speaker 1: of weird working with people that I ain't worked with

1297
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:26,880
Speaker 1: before and ships, So I don't really, I don't know.

1298
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 1: I'm not sure exactly what the future of it is. Well,

1299
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 1: they said there's big money and dispensariess and legally selling marijuana. Man,

1300
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 1: I've talked to some people who owned dispensaries of the

1301
01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:41,400
Speaker 1: amount that they pay on fucking security taxes, fucking all.

1302
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:44,480
Speaker 1: This ship is a while that because the city got involved,

1303
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:46,640
Speaker 1: the government now has got involved. In the early days,

1304
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 1: you just just to go runt of space, create your

1305
01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 1: own dispensary, have your security make all the money. I

1306
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:56,960
Speaker 1: find it really interesting that they are giving some percentage

1307
01:00:56,960 --> 01:01:00,200
Speaker 1: of the licenses to run dispensaries to people who who

1308
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 1: have served time because of marijuana related crimes. I know,

1309
01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:07,920
Speaker 1: I think that's a great thing because yeah, yeah, I'm

1310
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:10,919
Speaker 1: almost just amazed that they're even working on that level,

1311
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:12,959
Speaker 1: that they're actually being conscious of that kind of ship,

1312
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 1: because it seems like the weed space is kind of

1313
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:18,480
Speaker 1: poised to be taken over by corporations. The government realizes

1314
01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:21,520
Speaker 1: that we can't criminalize marijuana use anymore, and for people

1315
01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 1: who have been penalized for in the past, the should

1316
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:26,600
Speaker 1: be first in line to get a license to sell. Yeah,

1317
01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:29,680
Speaker 1: I think um freed Ricky Ross just got his license. Yeah,

1318
01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:33,520
Speaker 1: I saw that. Yeah, that's a good thing. That's a

1319
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:37,600
Speaker 1: good thing. What do you think about the legalization of marijuana, James, Hey,

1320
01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:39,360
Speaker 1: if you can make money off of it, and they

1321
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:42,160
Speaker 1: see they can't stop it, so this's join them. But

1322
01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:43,960
Speaker 1: you know the government is going to have their hand

1323
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:46,600
Speaker 1: in your pocket, boy, but they already in their pockets.

1324
01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 1: We're going to one of these dispensaries ons like eighty

1325
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:52,439
Speaker 1: dollars for eight some of these places. It's almost better

1326
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 1: to just buy your weed off the streets, everybody, everybody,

1327
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:57,320
Speaker 1: I know those a street dealer that comes through and something.

1328
01:01:57,360 --> 01:01:58,760
Speaker 1: The ship, but that's gonna be the weird ship is

1329
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:02,120
Speaker 1: when they start because the legal grow operations they have

1330
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:04,640
Speaker 1: actual system. I don't know if it's actually been implemented yet,

1331
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:07,000
Speaker 1: but where if you grow a pound of weed in

1332
01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:09,720
Speaker 1: that in that grow operation, and that weed is supposed

1333
01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:11,560
Speaker 1: to be so illegally that you are not taking a

1334
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 1: pound out of there and selling it with no tax

1335
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:16,560
Speaker 1: and ship. Like everything you grow is accounted for. Has

1336
01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:19,240
Speaker 1: to be cameras in every single part of it so

1337
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:21,560
Speaker 1: that they can investigate you and find out if you're

1338
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:23,920
Speaker 1: committing tax fraud by selling pounds on the side. And

1339
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:26,760
Speaker 1: the taxes are so crazy the corner a lot of people.

1340
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:29,520
Speaker 1: I know. The only way these motherfucker's are actually turning

1341
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:31,640
Speaker 1: the profit is by selling a decent amount of the

1342
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 1: weed that they get illegally, you know, like without paying

1343
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:38,040
Speaker 1: the taxes and ship. That's crazy. I was completely unaware

1344
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:41,600
Speaker 1: of how difficult the businesses because it seems like all

1345
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 1: these dispensaries they're making like fifty a hundred thousand a

1346
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:48,400
Speaker 1: month selling weed. Oh no, they got dispensaries that open up.

1347
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:51,400
Speaker 1: You might see them for three months and then they're gone.

1348
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:53,480
Speaker 1: They moved to another spot. I think you're making a

1349
01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:55,440
Speaker 1: hundred thousand and a month out a weed shop. That

1350
01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:58,640
Speaker 1: that a hundred thousands turning into five thousand, like pretty

1351
01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:01,680
Speaker 1: fucking quick after tax. Is your employees the real estate.

1352
01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:03,960
Speaker 1: I used to have a quiz Nos franchise and it

1353
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:07,800
Speaker 1: would make like forty average quizins can make fortt but

1354
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 1: you're only taking home about four or five thousand of that.

1355
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:14,640
Speaker 1: So you forty five thousand to run a quiz nos

1356
01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:17,320
Speaker 1: for one month. You just made yourself a job. You know,

1357
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:19,280
Speaker 1: it's like a regular job. It's the biggest waste of

1358
01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:22,000
Speaker 1: money I ever invested in my life. I ain't doing

1359
01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:27,760
Speaker 1: none of it. I ain't doing nothing legal. You don't

1360
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:31,480
Speaker 1: benefit off for selling nothing legal any street products. You

1361
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:33,920
Speaker 1: go legal and do all that, you're wasting your time.

1362
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:36,680
Speaker 1: Get it be on that curve. You know how many

1363
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:38,480
Speaker 1: people thought I was a millionaire because I had a

1364
01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:40,840
Speaker 1: quiz Nos people? How many people thought how rich I

1365
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:43,560
Speaker 1: was because that that quiz Nos buried me. You know,

1366
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:46,080
Speaker 1: it just took everything I had. I thought that was

1367
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 1: because my original business was a BMX website where I

1368
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:51,600
Speaker 1: was selling advertisements these BMX companies and ship and for

1369
01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:53,959
Speaker 1: a while, I was making like a hundred grand a year.

1370
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:56,240
Speaker 1: And I'm feeling like the man because I didn't I

1371
01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:58,520
Speaker 1: started that ship myself. Being as a small industry, I

1372
01:03:58,560 --> 01:04:01,680
Speaker 1: guess I didn't really even understand how small ball that

1373
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:03,840
Speaker 1: was at the at the time. But I'm feeling like

1374
01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:08,120
Speaker 1: the man. And then I am. I remember I opened

1375
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:11,680
Speaker 1: the bike shop and everybody I know is hitting me up,

1376
01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:13,760
Speaker 1: acting like I'm so successful now because I have the

1377
01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:16,800
Speaker 1: bike shop. I'm like, you're realize I'm gonna lose money

1378
01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:19,000
Speaker 1: on this for like a significant amount of time, Like

1379
01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:21,160
Speaker 1: running a bike shop is a for for me. There

1380
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:23,840
Speaker 1: was a long term branding prospect for my brand on

1381
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:26,080
Speaker 1: some ship, which is like my No Jumpers, like the

1382
01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:28,160
Speaker 1: media company on some ship's kind of like the BMX

1383
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:32,480
Speaker 1: skate rooted apparel brand, you know and like. But people

1384
01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:34,200
Speaker 1: were acting like I was so successful just because I

1385
01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:37,280
Speaker 1: opened the store. I'm like, and also you could open us.

1386
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 1: I was. I was in downtown in l A, on

1387
01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:40,960
Speaker 1: the corner and the edge of skid roll. I think

1388
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:43,920
Speaker 1: we're paying te in rent a month. I'm like, it's

1389
01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:46,840
Speaker 1: not so unobtainable to open the store. Yeah. And I

1390
01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:49,600
Speaker 1: bet during your death row days, they probably people thought

1391
01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:52,280
Speaker 1: you had more money than what people were really making.

1392
01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:55,840
Speaker 1: Everybody was a millionaire, right just because you see somebody

1393
01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:59,680
Speaker 1: on TV, do me rich? You know what I'm saying,

1394
01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:04,600
Speaker 1: And Uh, that's just people's perception. They see you out there,

1395
01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:07,040
Speaker 1: you're in the cars, you're doing this, they think you

1396
01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:12,320
Speaker 1: got money, we was we was neighborhood rich. And it's crazy,

1397
01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:16,040
Speaker 1: like I always forget that, Like for most of my life,

1398
01:05:16,200 --> 01:05:19,160
Speaker 1: I thought that it would be like the coolest ship

1399
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:22,840
Speaker 1: ever just to be around rappers. And I and a

1400
01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:25,600
Speaker 1: lot of people still are on that wavelength, and it's

1401
01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:28,400
Speaker 1: like in reality, like tonight, there's all kinds of rappers

1402
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:29,880
Speaker 1: that I know that I could go pull up on

1403
01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:32,160
Speaker 1: the studio and smoke a couple of blunts on them

1404
01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:33,480
Speaker 1: or whatever, like the funk. Am I gonna be doing

1405
01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:35,000
Speaker 1: that for I ain't get no money doing that. You know.

1406
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:37,440
Speaker 1: It's like it's nice to maybe like nurture the relationship,

1407
01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:39,480
Speaker 1: but just see somebody you ain't seen in a minute whatever.

1408
01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:41,480
Speaker 1: But like you know, I just forget that to a

1409
01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:44,040
Speaker 1: lot of people, just being around famous people is like

1410
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:46,440
Speaker 1: the coolest ship in the world because they just haven't

1411
01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:50,560
Speaker 1: done that ship is now. You mentioned when you was

1412
01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:52,160
Speaker 1: on I think you said you went to Mexico on

1413
01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:54,280
Speaker 1: a vacation. You thought about your content and how you

1414
01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:58,760
Speaker 1: want to change it. What what will we expect that's

1415
01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:01,040
Speaker 1: new in terms of the content that you plan on

1416
01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:03,120
Speaker 1: putting out this year. I think we're just gonna get

1417
01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:05,640
Speaker 1: a lot more consistent with our vlogs. Of just like

1418
01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:08,400
Speaker 1: me and other hosts were like really focused on building

1419
01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:11,040
Speaker 1: up other hosts under the brand to be able to

1420
01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:13,640
Speaker 1: just keep get real consistent with our vlogs and covering

1421
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:15,880
Speaker 1: all different parts of the culture in l A and

1422
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:18,080
Speaker 1: outside of l A. We're gonna do Black Dave doing

1423
01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:22,040
Speaker 1: skate slash hip hop videos out in New York City.

1424
01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:24,920
Speaker 1: He did one out here actually when he was out

1425
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:26,800
Speaker 1: visiting us. They he was just going out and like

1426
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:29,160
Speaker 1: hitting all the skate parks in l A. Linked with

1427
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:32,120
Speaker 1: the kid Sunny from the mid nineties movie. Uh, he

1428
01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:33,920
Speaker 1: just did one where he like pulled up to a B. G.

1429
01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:37,760
Speaker 1: Neil's block in Brooklyn. Um just working on building out

1430
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:40,680
Speaker 1: more hosts and just kind of increasing the overall flavor

1431
01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:43,000
Speaker 1: of the content that we're putting out there. Like you said,

1432
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:45,600
Speaker 1: like people were really excited about that BMX video. We're

1433
01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:47,640
Speaker 1: trying to just do a lot of BMX skate stuff

1434
01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:49,640
Speaker 1: over the next year too, and just keep growing that

1435
01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:51,720
Speaker 1: side of things. I'm probably you don't have like a

1436
01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:57,600
Speaker 1: BMX like um park, no jumper BMX park. That's the

1437
01:06:57,640 --> 01:06:59,640
Speaker 1: goal is to have a private skal you know, you

1438
01:06:59,720 --> 01:07:01,520
Speaker 1: made in this line of work if you got a

1439
01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:03,919
Speaker 1: private skate park in the valley. So that's that's something

1440
01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:06,080
Speaker 1: I'm shooting for in the long run, to have all

1441
01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:08,320
Speaker 1: the people just come through with their bikes. See, that

1442
01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:09,760
Speaker 1: would be the dopest thing. You don't even got to

1443
01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:12,000
Speaker 1: go to skate park and worry about the sun or anything.

1444
01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:14,280
Speaker 1: You just got your own private warehouse with ramps and

1445
01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:15,680
Speaker 1: stuff that will be doing. No. I don't know if

1446
01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:17,640
Speaker 1: you saw the video James, but he hasn't. I guess

1447
01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:20,440
Speaker 1: played and he did the tricks in like three or

1448
01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:23,800
Speaker 1: four years. Yeah, I didn't. He was landing them. I

1449
01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:25,840
Speaker 1: don't know the names of those. But when you take

1450
01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:29,720
Speaker 1: the pegs on the back wheels and skateboard culture they

1451
01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:34,919
Speaker 1: call that a grind, the same thing, uphill uphill grind. Yeah,

1452
01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:36,880
Speaker 1: we were going for it. It was good he was.

1453
01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:39,440
Speaker 1: He was landing them. I was actually impressed. I was like,

1454
01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:44,280
Speaker 1: I didn't know this guy had BMX skills. No, not

1455
01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:47,160
Speaker 1: at all. My two sons could do kick flips and

1456
01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:50,040
Speaker 1: and all that stuff on skateboards for like twenty years. Honestly,

1457
01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:52,240
Speaker 1: when I got into BMX at thirteen, that's pretty much

1458
01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:53,680
Speaker 1: all I did for like the next twenty years of

1459
01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:55,840
Speaker 1: my life, and just at a certain point I started

1460
01:07:55,840 --> 01:07:58,000
Speaker 1: the website and started success with that. That was about

1461
01:07:58,000 --> 01:08:00,680
Speaker 1: ten years in, and I was it's pretty much how

1462
01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:02,520
Speaker 1: I learned to do everything, because it's like I wouldn't

1463
01:08:02,560 --> 01:08:04,640
Speaker 1: have had any kind of confidence or any kind of

1464
01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:07,880
Speaker 1: resume to interview rappers, but I was interviewing bike riders,

1465
01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:11,400
Speaker 1: and then that sort of gave me the entry point

1466
01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:13,880
Speaker 1: to start even having anything going on, to be able

1467
01:08:13,880 --> 01:08:16,320
Speaker 1: to sort of meet people in the entertainment world. And shoot,

1468
01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:19,280
Speaker 1: thirteen years old a little late just to start in

1469
01:08:19,320 --> 01:08:21,040
Speaker 1: that world because a lot of them have been riding

1470
01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:23,760
Speaker 1: since the six seven years. Especially now, it's like you

1471
01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:25,439
Speaker 1: you could kind of tell if a kid is going

1472
01:08:25,479 --> 01:08:26,960
Speaker 1: to end up being a probe by the time the

1473
01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:30,559
Speaker 1: thirteen These days, a lot of times like it's thirteen

1474
01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:33,320
Speaker 1: is like you should have a solid skill set these

1475
01:08:33,360 --> 01:08:36,080
Speaker 1: days because the best dudes usually are dudes who have

1476
01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:38,920
Speaker 1: been doing it since they were fucking really young. And

1477
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:42,320
Speaker 1: that's when the sponsorships come into those fourteen, fifteen, sixteen

1478
01:08:42,360 --> 01:08:45,519
Speaker 1: year olds, you know they made it. How does it

1479
01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:48,080
Speaker 1: compare between skateboarding and BM Mexic Because I hear a

1480
01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:50,439
Speaker 1: lot about skateboarding world. I don't hear a lot about

1481
01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:52,479
Speaker 1: the BMX world. Being in this world is just small

1482
01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:55,519
Speaker 1: in comparison because there's just a lot less people who

1483
01:08:55,600 --> 01:08:57,559
Speaker 1: do it in comparison to skate I feel like skate

1484
01:08:57,600 --> 01:08:59,479
Speaker 1: has gotten a lot bigger over the twenty years or

1485
01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:02,519
Speaker 1: so that I've been involved, while the BMX thing has

1486
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:04,680
Speaker 1: gotten a bit smaller. But I mean, it's still like

1487
01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:08,320
Speaker 1: a really amazing community. Like I'm consistently just amazed by

1488
01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:12,120
Speaker 1: the people who are just so ridiculously passionate about it.

1489
01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:14,479
Speaker 1: So I mean, it's it's something where like you know,

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01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:17,760
Speaker 1: actually riding bikes might not be a really big part

1491
01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:19,400
Speaker 1: of my life at this point, but it's always just

1492
01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:22,439
Speaker 1: going to be something that's a part of my overall brand.

1493
01:09:22,760 --> 01:09:25,200
Speaker 1: And it's just kind of saw the issue of like

1494
01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:27,920
Speaker 1: how to incorporate it into No Jumper in a way

1495
01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:30,759
Speaker 1: that sort of shows all the different sides of the culture.

1496
01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:32,599
Speaker 1: You know, you don't really see a lot of people

1497
01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:35,920
Speaker 1: of color in the BMX world and skateboarding. There's a

1498
01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:37,800
Speaker 1: lot of people of color starting, but when I was

1499
01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:40,679
Speaker 1: a little kid, we didn't write skateboards, right. I don't

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01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:42,240
Speaker 1: know if you've noticed there's a lot of black kids

1501
01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:45,479
Speaker 1: now writing skateboards in the hood, and there's money in it.

1502
01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:49,519
Speaker 1: Everybody around the skateboard nine day. It wasn't even cool

1503
01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:51,240
Speaker 1: when I was little. If he was on a skateboard,

1504
01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:53,720
Speaker 1: he was a punk, he was a coward. While you

1505
01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:56,679
Speaker 1: on a skateboard, man, it's been amazing seeing that ship changed.

1506
01:09:56,720 --> 01:09:58,880
Speaker 1: I think it was honestly around two thousand nine ten

1507
01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:01,479
Speaker 1: when I started to see Soldier boys standing on a

1508
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:04,360
Speaker 1: skateboard rapping in the video, and then all of a sudden,

1509
01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:07,520
Speaker 1: it just felt like there was just change and attitude.

1510
01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:09,080
Speaker 1: Because you know, a lot of the skate parks are

1511
01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:11,160
Speaker 1: kind of in the hood, so you would always have

1512
01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:13,600
Speaker 1: kids from the hood go into the skate park. But

1513
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:15,800
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, it felt like those same

1514
01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:19,200
Speaker 1: kids wanted to actually learn how to skateboard once they

1515
01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:22,320
Speaker 1: sort of saw people in the in the rap culture

1516
01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:25,320
Speaker 1: embracing it and stuff. So that was that was actually

1517
01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:27,960
Speaker 1: like a really dope thing for me to see and

1518
01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:29,800
Speaker 1: really kind of gave me a lot of hope in

1519
01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:32,880
Speaker 1: terms of like where you could go from there, because

1520
01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:35,160
Speaker 1: to me, a young kid who was like from the

1521
01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:38,800
Speaker 1: hood in the streets whatever, like them thinking the skateboarding

1522
01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:40,679
Speaker 1: is dope and that that's a dope way of life.

1523
01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:44,000
Speaker 1: That's such a positive thing because you know, for for

1524
01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:46,559
Speaker 1: them to see that as a positive way of life,

1525
01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:48,400
Speaker 1: for them to be looking at the tye of the Creator.

1526
01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:50,280
Speaker 1: I remember when he came out like two thousand and eleven,

1527
01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:52,560
Speaker 1: and he was the first one to really represent a

1528
01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:56,160
Speaker 1: version of a young kid from l A who didn't

1529
01:10:56,160 --> 01:10:58,680
Speaker 1: give a funk about the gangs and just wanted to

1530
01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:00,840
Speaker 1: hang out on Fairfax and go to the skate park

1531
01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:03,479
Speaker 1: and you know, make some rap music and stuff and

1532
01:11:03,479 --> 01:11:05,519
Speaker 1: didn't give it sh it about being tough, and that

1533
01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:08,719
Speaker 1: like opened up like a blueprint for so many kids

1534
01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:11,840
Speaker 1: to be able to understand themselves as a person who's

1535
01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:14,400
Speaker 1: not defined by their willingness to commit violence or whatever.

1536
01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:16,960
Speaker 1: You know. They put a skate park in Rancho Park,

1537
01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:20,120
Speaker 1: which is the park for the Jungles is at and

1538
01:11:20,439 --> 01:11:22,920
Speaker 1: for years, I don't think there was any skate park

1539
01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:24,880
Speaker 1: in South Los Angeles. I don't know if there's anything.

1540
01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:27,840
Speaker 1: There might be one skate park in Compton now, but

1541
01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:31,360
Speaker 1: for throughout the eighties and i'd say most of the nineties,

1542
01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:34,559
Speaker 1: there were no skate parks in South l A. Now

1543
01:11:34,720 --> 01:11:37,760
Speaker 1: they're popping up. And Stacy Peralta, he came to the

1544
01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:40,720
Speaker 1: Jungles one day and was teaching the kids there and

1545
01:11:40,720 --> 01:11:42,320
Speaker 1: and then this is the neighborhood for the Black Peace

1546
01:11:42,360 --> 01:11:44,720
Speaker 1: Stones are for those who don't know, He's teaching the

1547
01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:46,679
Speaker 1: kids there how to skate, and all these little black

1548
01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:49,680
Speaker 1: kids was loving it. They all wanted to learn how

1549
01:11:49,680 --> 01:11:51,799
Speaker 1: to skate. They all wanted to know how to ali.

1550
01:11:52,360 --> 01:11:54,080
Speaker 1: And I think it's just changing. But I don't know

1551
01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:56,800
Speaker 1: if the BMX world is gonna catch up to what

1552
01:11:56,880 --> 01:12:00,240
Speaker 1: they're doing in the skateboarding world. Yeah, it's just like

1553
01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:02,360
Speaker 1: a different side of things. I mean. And the one

1554
01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:05,360
Speaker 1: thing I always loved about BMX bikes was just that

1555
01:12:05,400 --> 01:12:08,320
Speaker 1: when I got into it, all of a sudden, I

1556
01:12:08,360 --> 01:12:10,599
Speaker 1: was riding my bike, you know, three or four miles

1557
01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:13,680
Speaker 1: from my house to downtown. Uh in the city I

1558
01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:16,320
Speaker 1: grew up in. We started hopping on the train and

1559
01:12:16,360 --> 01:12:18,720
Speaker 1: going to Boston, or you know, hopping on the train

1560
01:12:18,760 --> 01:12:20,439
Speaker 1: going to New York, hopping on the bus going to

1561
01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:23,400
Speaker 1: New York and just being able to use that as

1562
01:12:23,439 --> 01:12:25,800
Speaker 1: a vehicle to just get away from my home life

1563
01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:27,639
Speaker 1: and all the bullshit I was dealing with my parents,

1564
01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:30,000
Speaker 1: and ship was just like huge for me. And I

1565
01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:33,000
Speaker 1: think best case scenario, that's what a lot of kids

1566
01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:35,840
Speaker 1: get from a skateboard or a BMX bike. That might

1567
01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:38,280
Speaker 1: be sort of you know, that's what it gets lost

1568
01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:41,000
Speaker 1: because people think it's so much about the tricks. To me,

1569
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:43,360
Speaker 1: it's just about having that vehicle that's gonna take you

1570
01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:46,360
Speaker 1: away from your circumstances and help. To me, the world

1571
01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:49,320
Speaker 1: seems so much bigger on a bike because I could

1572
01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:52,360
Speaker 1: just get somewhere fast and be able to like just

1573
01:12:52,479 --> 01:12:55,160
Speaker 1: experience things in a way that I felt closed off

1574
01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:56,720
Speaker 1: because I was riding bikes even before I had a

1575
01:12:56,720 --> 01:13:01,040
Speaker 1: car or anything. You know, you didn't see too much

1576
01:13:01,040 --> 01:13:04,320
Speaker 1: of that when you was growing up as a kid either, No,

1577
01:13:04,439 --> 01:13:07,400
Speaker 1: just the skateboarding, but specifically the BMX thing. But maybe

1578
01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:09,160
Speaker 1: there was more because I remember in the eighties we

1579
01:13:09,240 --> 01:13:13,280
Speaker 1: used to ride mong Gooses, red Lines, Diamondbacks. That used

1580
01:13:13,320 --> 01:13:16,640
Speaker 1: to be more of just a normal teenager thing. But

1581
01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:18,920
Speaker 1: you know, l A and a bike city, you know,

1582
01:13:19,479 --> 01:13:22,160
Speaker 1: like New York is a bike city. L A is

1583
01:13:22,280 --> 01:13:24,519
Speaker 1: kind of too big, Like you can ride around a

1584
01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:27,040
Speaker 1: specific neighborhood or whatever, but you're not gonna ride from

1585
01:13:27,439 --> 01:13:32,639
Speaker 1: North Hollywood to Compton. You know it's like downtown. Yeah,

1586
01:13:32,680 --> 01:13:35,599
Speaker 1: but in Compton at least l A is flat. When

1587
01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:38,599
Speaker 1: you go south of Hollywood, it's pretty much all flat.

1588
01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:43,080
Speaker 1: So it's easy to like right right down town l

1589
01:13:43,160 --> 01:13:46,320
Speaker 1: All right, Um, any last words before we wrap this

1590
01:13:46,439 --> 01:13:48,840
Speaker 1: up on them, man, there's an honor. I'd love to

1591
01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:51,360
Speaker 1: get you guys on the show sometime for sure. Yeah,

1592
01:13:51,439 --> 01:13:55,160
Speaker 1: we're coming. That would be awesome. Well, people, because you left,

1593
01:13:55,760 --> 01:13:58,320
Speaker 1: I'm coming. I already choke you. I'm coming to show.

1594
01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:02,920
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be on there. And no, no, we ain't

1595
01:14:02,920 --> 01:14:04,960
Speaker 1: gonna smoke in my spot. They're going to kick up.

1596
01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:10,840
Speaker 1: No I ain't for that. No, I'll do the opposite. Alright, Well,

1597
01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:13,559
Speaker 1: I want to thank everybody for listening to another episode

1598
01:14:13,560 --> 01:14:16,040
Speaker 1: of The Gangster Chronicles. You know, you can find James

1599
01:14:16,120 --> 01:14:19,519
Speaker 1: McDonald on Facebook. He's got the red Harley and in

1600
01:14:19,560 --> 01:14:21,920
Speaker 1: the profile picture, and he's also on Instagram at B I,

1601
01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:25,240
Speaker 1: G G J thirty six thirty six the Death Row

1602
01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:27,920
Speaker 1: T shirts. He's wearing one right now. If you're interested

1603
01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:29,760
Speaker 1: in one of those, hit him up nine zero nine

1604
01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:33,320
Speaker 1: eight h zero four and you can find me on

1605
01:14:33,360 --> 01:14:36,960
Speaker 1: all social media platforms at alex Alonzo one zero one.

1606
01:14:37,439 --> 01:14:40,080
Speaker 1: Make sure you check out my latest interviews on Street tv,

1607
01:14:40,680 --> 01:14:44,080
Speaker 1: a K Street Gangs dot com and Adams found on

1608
01:14:44,160 --> 01:14:47,960
Speaker 1: No Jumper pretty much every day. Um, you're Adam twenty

1609
01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:52,200
Speaker 1: two at Twitter and at Instagram and James. Yeah, I

1610
01:14:52,240 --> 01:14:56,559
Speaker 1: got sixty T shirts that was defective, and I say

1611
01:14:56,640 --> 01:14:59,240
Speaker 1: I couldn't sell them because on the back of one

1612
01:14:59,240 --> 01:15:02,559
Speaker 1: of the pictures, uh, one of the guys face didn't show.

1613
01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:06,679
Speaker 1: So I couldn't mail those shirts out. But I can.

1614
01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:08,840
Speaker 1: I don't know how to give them away because I

1615
01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:11,200
Speaker 1: ain't gonna use my money to mail them to you.

1616
01:15:11,640 --> 01:15:15,280
Speaker 1: So if you want a T shirt, hit me up

1617
01:15:15,800 --> 01:15:18,519
Speaker 1: on nine oh nine four one, nine zero three four

1618
01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:21,880
Speaker 1: or five and you pay for the handling, the shipping

1619
01:15:21,880 --> 01:15:24,640
Speaker 1: and hand And I was shipping anywhere as long as

1620
01:15:24,680 --> 01:15:27,600
Speaker 1: you pay for it. So let's say the average is

1621
01:15:27,720 --> 01:15:30,439
Speaker 1: ten bucks, send me ten bucks, I send you a

1622
01:15:30,479 --> 01:15:32,280
Speaker 1: T shirt. You could also do what they do on

1623
01:15:32,439 --> 01:15:35,280
Speaker 1: UH the team doesn't win the championship. When one team

1624
01:15:35,280 --> 01:15:37,479
Speaker 1: doesn't win the championship, because they make T shirts for

1625
01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:39,960
Speaker 1: both sides, right, one team loses. You know what they

1626
01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:42,439
Speaker 1: do with those shirts? I think they sent him to Africa.

1627
01:15:43,080 --> 01:15:45,840
Speaker 1: They just give them away. Well, I mean, I mean

1628
01:15:46,360 --> 01:15:49,080
Speaker 1: everybody loving the shirts. I mean I would get back

1629
01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:51,760
Speaker 1: and find a place where I could just, you know,

1630
01:15:51,840 --> 01:15:53,680
Speaker 1: just give them out. But they're not they must not

1631
01:15:53,720 --> 01:15:57,599
Speaker 1: be that defective. One picture on the on the back,

1632
01:15:58,120 --> 01:16:01,920
Speaker 1: his face didn't come clear. It's worth it the just

1633
01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:04,960
Speaker 1: I was sending it to you, but put put your

1634
01:16:05,000 --> 01:16:07,360
Speaker 1: signature on on the front part of it, right in

1635
01:16:07,400 --> 01:16:11,040
Speaker 1: the white part where the the the death row guy

1636
01:16:11,120 --> 01:16:13,680
Speaker 1: sitting in the chair, and adds a little value to it.

1637
01:16:14,200 --> 01:16:16,720
Speaker 1: And uh, I think people will definitely hit you up.

1638
01:16:17,000 --> 01:16:19,400
Speaker 1: On the black ones, I gotta I got a white pant,

1639
01:16:20,360 --> 01:16:23,360
Speaker 1: white ink, I hit on bone them and then I

1640
01:16:23,439 --> 01:16:25,360
Speaker 1: used a black one on the white one. So I

1641
01:16:25,479 --> 01:16:29,400
Speaker 1: didn't signed a few autographs, but yeah, that's what I have.

1642
01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:32,360
Speaker 1: So you know, they're just sitting them, They're just sitting

1643
01:16:32,360 --> 01:16:35,599
Speaker 1: in my garage in the box, and I'm just trying

1644
01:16:35,640 --> 01:16:37,160
Speaker 1: to figure out what to do with them. And I

1645
01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:40,639
Speaker 1: figured I let everybody know that I have them. Those

1646
01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:43,519
Speaker 1: at one one and and around me. I give you

1647
01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:47,280
Speaker 1: a T shirt, I'll bring something to you and those

1648
01:16:47,320 --> 01:16:50,759
Speaker 1: that out there, I sent them to you just paper

1649
01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:54,559
Speaker 1: for me sending it sounds good good Other than no Jumper, Adam,

1650
01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:57,280
Speaker 1: where else can people find you? On social media? Adam

1651
01:16:57,720 --> 01:17:02,719
Speaker 1: on Twitter and Instagram, Facebook, all that ship appreciate you coming.

1652
01:17:03,640 --> 01:17:06,599
Speaker 1: And let's reinstate Pete Rose into the Major League Baseball

1653
01:17:07,080 --> 01:17:09,840
Speaker 1: we out shirt h