1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: Ron and Nannian. Don't buy a service package that talks 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: about replacing a fuel filter of fifteen thousand miles if 3 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 1: your car doesn't have one, the Car Doctor and I 4 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: think it comes down to there's manufacturer's world, there's dealer's world, 5 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: and then there's real world. And I think real world 6 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: takes a little bit from both, and it's somewhere in 7 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: the middle. Welcome to the radio home of Ron and 8 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 1: Anian the Car Doctor, since this is where car owners 9 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: the world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. 10 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:49,919 Speaker 1: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up 11 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:53,480 Speaker 1: the phone and call in the garage doors are open, 12 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 1: but I am here to take your calls at eight 13 00:00:55,680 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: five and now he is running. Hey, welcome, come on in, 14 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: sit down roun Nating in the Car Doctor, pull up 15 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: a chair, let's talk about your car and it's problem. 16 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:11,119 Speaker 1: Um listening. I think Frasier Crane said that was he real? 17 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: Yeah he wasn't. But I am I'm Roning Nay in 18 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: the Car Doctor, and I'm here ato zero to talk 19 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: to you about your car today and talk to you 20 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: about whatever it is it's bothering you and um, let's 21 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 1: keep it. Let's keep the shiny side up, the dirty 22 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: side down, and keep it motoring along the highway. That's 23 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: the car doctor's mantra. We are interview free this hour. 24 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: I think we're interviewed free both hours. I don't think 25 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 1: we have anything to talk about except go Patriots. Yeah no, no, no, no, no, 26 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 1: no no no no. I was right, though, wasn't. I 27 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: fellas what happened? What happened that? What happened to that game? 28 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: You know what? Um? Hey, the Betett team one. That's 29 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: all I'm gonna say. Because this is a family oriented show. 30 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: I can't say with me and Tom really said last Sunday, 31 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: it really it really was interesting, Like you thought the 32 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: first quarter, the middle of the second quarter like they 33 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: were gonna pull it out and then like it went downhill. 34 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 1: Really that just did it? Yeah, you know, very bluntly. 35 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: The pack wanted it better and wanted it more. Yeah, 36 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: they really did so. But the more power to them. 37 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 1: And let's get behind green Bay. Now, let's let's go 38 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,079 Speaker 1: for green Bay. Green Bay all the way, Green Bay 39 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: all the way. All Wisconsin calls, please give us the 40 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:23,799 Speaker 1: call right especially, we want to hear from you. We're 41 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 1: all for green Bay, especially in the face of if 42 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: it's green Bay, Dallas or the Patriots, which one of those, 43 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 1: Tom and I going from green Bay all the way. Yeah, 44 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: we gotta go for no New England, no Dallas, no Dallas. Yeah, 45 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 1: absolutely So if we're not on in Dallas except that 46 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:42,239 Speaker 1: they're podcasting, so that's okay, we can We're still going. 47 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: That's nobody'll ever know. So and anyway, um, we are 48 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: interview free this hour now that Tony's Giants ran and 49 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:51,519 Speaker 1: that's the last ye'll hear about the Giants until next season. Um, 50 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: because I think Tony's gonna go into his winter hibernation 51 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: and UM be upset. So but this radio show is 52 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 1: really about fixing cars. It's not a sports show. And um, 53 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: you know, Car Doctor Show dot com is where you'll 54 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: find more information podcasts, and I really appreciate the effort lately. 55 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:09,959 Speaker 1: If you are podcasting and you have the ability when 56 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 1: you podcast to click subscribe from your podcast device, please 57 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: click subscribe. It does help us. Uh. You know, we 58 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 1: can go back to the sponsors and say, hey, you know, 59 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 1: let's face it, there's a business side to this, and 60 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: we can say, hey, you know, these are the listeners 61 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 1: we have and um, you know it helps us be 62 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: here and continue to be here, and um you know 63 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 1: it helps pay the bills and keeps the lights on. 64 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: As they say, speaking of keeping lights on, that was 65 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: a segue. I'm a radio veteran. That's smooth. Two thousand 66 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: twelve Honda CRV. You know how you can tell when 67 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: the customer is in trouble more than the car when 68 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: it's to c RV with forty four thousand miles on 69 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: it and the guy from triple As telling her, oh, 70 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: it needs an alternator. I diagnosed it in your driveway. Yeah, 71 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: you know what, shut up, put the car in the 72 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: back of the flat bed and bring it to him. 73 00:03:57,600 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: And you're not qualified. The diagnosed that you're driving that truck. 74 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that the toe truck driver isn't qualified, 75 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: but in all cases, just do your job. Just bring 76 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: me the car. CRV broke down on the customer's driveway. 77 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: It had a case of an intermittent dead battery were required, 78 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 1: It needed to be jumped started. They jumped started, and 79 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:19,479 Speaker 1: the car drove fine for a day or two and 80 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: then it would next day or day two days later 81 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: it would just not start and have to be jumped again. 82 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: So A A A at my behest. They brought the 83 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,919 Speaker 1: car in and I went to look at it and 84 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: diagnose it. And you know, it's interesting. I have four 85 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 1: battery testers in the shop. Four I have a toaster 86 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 1: of it I have and an analog device just a 87 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:48,720 Speaker 1: regular carbon pile load. I've got the OTC minute Man 88 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: which is a higher formed version of the smart analog 89 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: UH type with it puts a fixed carbon pile load 90 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: on it. And I've got another one which is doing 91 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 1: that digital algorith them mathematical test. Out of the four 92 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: battery testers, I have three of the four pronounced this 93 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: battery good. But in looking at the numbers, I knew 94 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: there was something wrong. The batteries, called cranking amps or 95 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 1: c C A was four ten the rating after each test, 96 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: depending upon where it was in the cycle of the test, 97 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: to fifty one with two sixty three. The one that 98 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: caught my eye was the one quote unquote smart tester 99 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 1: that tested the battery with a rating of four ten. 100 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: Tested at the two sixty three c c as pronounced 101 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: it a good battery at a state of charge, and 102 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: I said, how can that be? It's got it's got 103 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 1: you know, it's got almost it's almost lost its charge 104 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: capacity capacity ins and it's nah, that can't be. I 105 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: went and got out and the only device I had. 106 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: You know, we sometimes you overtest. So I got out 107 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 1: the only device I had in the old school, down 108 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 1: in dirty, plain and simple carbon pile load. I did 109 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 1: what they taught me a million years ago. Hook it up, 110 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 1: cranked the knob. It's got to hold more than ten 111 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: and a half vaults for a twenty second period. Sure enough, 112 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: cranked it up, turn it down, dropped the nine point 113 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: eight bad battery, put a battery in the car. Now, 114 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: I should tell you that prior to doing this, we 115 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: also obviously checked the charging system. And I'm always skeptical, skeptical, skeptical, skeptical. 116 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 1: It's got to be one of those choices. Put whatever 117 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: where you want in that blank folks, fill it in. 118 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 1: It's it's it's always skeptical to test the charging system 119 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: with a weak battery because you're never quite sure what 120 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: the alternators really trying to do, and you don't want 121 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 1: to second guess this. The charging rate on this Honda 122 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 1: c r V that the guy from Triple A said, oh, 123 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: you need a battery or you need you need an 124 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 1: alternator was twelve and a half vaults and dropping twelve five, 125 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 1: twelve four and I and it was it. There was 126 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: no alternator output. But the little voice in the back 127 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: of my head kept going, I can't be It's only 128 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:14,679 Speaker 1: four years old, It's only got forty five thousand miles 129 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: on it. How can it? How can it need an 130 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 1: alternator at this point in the game. You know, as 131 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: much as I'd left to pick on Honda, but you know, 132 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: I give them credit. They do make a good product 133 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: that you know, not a not less than fifty thousand miles. 134 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: I don't what are the percentages? So I went and 135 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: did a little further digging, a little more research, and 136 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: it turns out anybody want to guess car didn't need 137 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: an alternator to properly test the charging system on this 138 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: Honda CRV. And I should point out this is getting 139 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: to be quite the norm with Honda hondas of this generation. 140 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 1: And this is on a chord crvs uh civics. They 141 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: run a one wire alternator to control what the alternator 142 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: does and how it does it. So it's it's one wire. 143 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: It's a can bus communication control area network with digital 144 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: signals on it, that is controlling the way the regulator 145 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: operates and functions inside the alternators controlled by the PCM, 146 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 1: by the main engine computer. And depending upon and and 147 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: dig this look at how smart they're getting in the 148 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: sake of fuel economy, they turn off the charge rate 149 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: or they bring it down to a very low level 150 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: in the interest of fuel economy, and then depending upon 151 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 1: the load that's on the system, they'll turn the charging 152 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:39,079 Speaker 1: system up. If you do a little research, and it's 153 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: not easy to find, but if you do a little research, 154 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: it tells you that turning the headlights on activates the 155 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: charging system. To do the test, sitting at idle in 156 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: the bay, sure enough, turn the charging system on and 157 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 1: fourteen point two vaults like it was nothing. Took the 158 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: car for a ride, took the car for a ride. 159 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: This after I did the battery at this point. Took 160 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 1: the car for a ride and even with the headlights off, 161 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: cruising down the road at thirty five watching it on 162 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 1: a scan tool, graphing it out. One of the things 163 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: I love using the launch x four thirty one pro. Boy, 164 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: here's a case for graphing, you know, just just that 165 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:20,679 Speaker 1: tool works like a champ. It graphed each and every pit. 166 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: There were six PIDs I had up. It granched each 167 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: and everyone as far as the information I was looking for. 168 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 1: But I watched specifically the charge rate. And you know what, 169 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: I have the ability. I will upload that to Facebook 170 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: this week, I promise, and I'll show you some pictures. 171 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:37,199 Speaker 1: But you could see it the minute you turn on 172 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: the headlights, bank charge rate, turn the headlights off, go 173 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 1: down the road, put your foot through the headlight, and 174 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: you can see the charge rate go up. Is the 175 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 1: demand went up? I mean, look at how they're controlling things. 176 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 1: And my point is other than just an opening rant, 177 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 1: and other than to tell you how complicated cars are. 178 00:09:57,760 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: But you're you're you're listening to the show, so you 179 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: have good taste. You're smart enough to realize that that 180 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: you can't judge anything by what you say. You can't 181 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 1: assume that because cars for the last ninety eight years 182 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:17,439 Speaker 1: had charging systems that put out more than battery voltage 183 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 1: doesn't mean the next time you see one that that's 184 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: correct and that's the way it's supposed to operate the 185 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: only thing you can assume when you're working on a 186 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: car is you're gonna have to spend some time reading 187 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: and doing research, and that's really what it's all about. 188 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: Let the car go, put a battery in it, Let 189 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: the car go, and um, car has been fine. That 190 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 1: was Tuesday. Hello, and welcome to the car doctor. I'm Rondaninian. 191 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:45,319 Speaker 1: By the way, I am. I am shopping for new 192 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 1: charging with new battery testers. Um, and that's no lie. 193 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: I called up manufacturers and everybody said, yeah, the new one, 194 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: the technology, and well, you know, you know, it's sort 195 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: of like um listening to politicians talk. I uh um, 196 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 1: I was. I was really amazed. But we are opping 197 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 1: now for a couple of new battery testers in the 198 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: shop because you know, it's just everything is getting that 199 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:07,959 Speaker 1: much fussier, everything is getting that much more involved and 200 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: in depth. And that's just the way the industry is 201 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 1: leading us. So just be aware that never assume, never 202 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: believe what you see in front of you until you 203 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: check it out further and deeper. And that's the moral 204 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:22,079 Speaker 1: of that story. Eight zero zero zero. I see the 205 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: phones are lit up. Let me pull over and take 206 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:25,959 Speaker 1: the pause for the cause, and when I return, we'll 207 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 1: kick the garage doors wide open on Rondonindian stay tuned. 208 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 1: Welcome back the car doctor rolling along at eight five 209 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 1: five zero nine zero zero. Let's get over to Lou 210 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 1: and Iowa two thousand eight, Nissan Rogue two point five 211 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:04,679 Speaker 1: and some spark plug issues. Lou, Welcome to the car doctice, Sir. 212 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: How can I help afternoon run? What's the secret to 213 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 1: remove or change spark plugs in that engine and to 214 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 1: get the coil packs off the top of the plug. 215 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 1: It's easy. You drive down to your local mechanic and 216 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: you leave him the cry to come back about eight 217 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,959 Speaker 1: hours later. Um, yeah, this is uh, this is a 218 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 1: little involved. Um, Lou, it's it's no kid, and it's 219 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 1: it's a tough one. The intake manifold hangs over the 220 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: top of the engine on this correct over the top 221 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: of the over the top of the cylinder head. Actually 222 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 1: actually have good accessibility to take out these each bolt 223 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 1: over the top of each plug. So it's similar to 224 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:44,079 Speaker 1: a Honda one six engine with the spark plugs down 225 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: the middle of the of the head on the top side. 226 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 1: But right, but is it? Is it? Well? Go ahead, 227 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 1: those coral packs I cannot get them out. I've talked 228 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: to Nissan I think they want two or three hundred 229 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 1: dollars of change of plugs and angree I don't want 230 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: to do it. Well, when you say you can't get 231 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: them out, what they're stuck in the head, they seem 232 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: like they're stuck in the head those coral packs. Now, 233 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: if you've if you've unbolted them, they should lift out. 234 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: But they won't. They will not come out, Actually will 235 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 1: they will? They will? They twist one one did, but 236 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 1: the others seem like they won't even twist that rubber 237 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: sealer around him or that rubber boot. Yeah. Then the 238 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 1: only thing that holds them in thousand on the engine. 239 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: We bought the vehicle last October, and I don't think 240 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 1: the plugs have been shamed. You're probably not. Have you 241 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: have you you've taken I'm just gonna ask the stupid 242 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: questions from my seat here, Lou. You've taken the ten 243 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: millimeter bolt out, the six millimeter bolt, ten millimeter head 244 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: out of the coil holding head, and that's the only 245 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: thing holding it in unplugged electrically. Give it a twist 246 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: and it should come out. Yeah, that's according to that. 247 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: I think my manual. I have either Haines or the 248 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 1: other man. That's what they say to do, but it 249 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:07,559 Speaker 1: doesn't work. Yeah, there's no there's no magic. There's no 250 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 1: magic pill there, my friend. You know, if it's just 251 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 1: be that the coils are stuck in the head for 252 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 1: some reason, you may end up having to replace coils 253 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: at this point, just they're terribly expensive. But what you 254 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 1: want to do and what wants that there is two 255 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: different stories. Well, and listen, the dealer may end up 256 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: breaking the coils. There's no magic. It happens, you know. 257 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: So at a d eighty thousand miles eight years old. Um, 258 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 1: it's just expect anything, expect the unexpected. Well, that's that's 259 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 1: probably good advice. How many miles can we expect out 260 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 1: of this vehicle with the timing chain instead of the belt? 261 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: Uh chains on those? Listen, just because it's a chain 262 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: doesn't mean it ever goes it doesn't ever go bead. 263 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 1: I see probably, I see probably as as many problems 264 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 1: with vehicles with timing chains as I did with Bell. Nowadays, 265 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: it seems it seems that the extended oil drain intervals 266 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: are in my opinion, part of the cause for some 267 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: of these timing chain components to wear out. You know. 268 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 1: A matter of fact, we just posted something up on 269 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: the Facebook page last month about a Nissan Extera that 270 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: I did chains on that the guides physically wore out. 271 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 1: It was just like a nylon shoe that the chain 272 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 1: running over the top, it just wore it out. So, 273 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: you know, one of the ways we tell on the 274 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 1: Nissans that's getting to be common is if when you 275 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: start it and run it, if it's got a howl 276 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 1: to it or a wine to it, it sounds like 277 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: a supercharger. Chances are that's the chain. That's the guides 278 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 1: themselves worn't out and there in need of replacement. So 279 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 1: the answer to the question is how far can the 280 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: car go? As far as you want to take it? 281 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: It just takes money to get it. There no no 282 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 1: simple solutions, Yeah, there's no. It's had regular oil changes. 283 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: Feel that should help us. The previous owners are very 284 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: good about changing oil. I can I can convince you 285 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: to put money in that car very easily. You want to, 286 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: you want to know how you do it? Well, there's 287 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 1: two things. Number one. Number one, I'm concerned about rust 288 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: and what what the bottom of the vehicle looks like. 289 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: And as long as that passes test and that looks okay. 290 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: The easiest way to justify in your mind to spend 291 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: money on your car to repair it, it's to go 292 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: price a new one. It's a sound car. It's it's 293 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: very little rust on the vehicle under on the underside. 294 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: We had to rechange a muffler. But that's that's routine, right, 295 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 1: It's it's you know, there there are times there's a 296 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: time and a place to buy a new car, but 297 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 1: not doing maintenance and thinking it's time to replace the car. 298 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 1: I don't know if that works every time. In my mind, 299 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: I think cars today are made too well. Okay, well, 300 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: thank you, Ron, and happy New Years you're too, sir. 301 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: Good luck to you, and uh well, I hope it 302 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: all works out for you. Um. You know that's that's 303 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 1: really an issue as far as you know when and 304 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: how and where and why? Hey, real quick before we 305 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: uh come up on the bottom of the hour. Did 306 00:16:56,920 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 1: anybody read the news this week? Anybody see the thing 307 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 1: about Fiat Fiat Chrysler e p a Fiat Chrysler software 308 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: and enabled the missions cheating? Do I smell Volkswagen? Here? Is? This? 309 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 1: Is this and it's an interesting article. The environment protecting 310 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:18,679 Speaker 1: ANC accused Fiat Chrysler on Thursday of installing software that 311 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 1: enables certain diesel trucks to admit far more pollutants than 312 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 1: emission laws amount that allow. The company denied those accusations, 313 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:29,160 Speaker 1: of course they did, saying it's software meats regulatory requirements. 314 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 1: The vehicles involved were the ten to sixteen model your Dodge, 315 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: Ram pickups and Jeep Grand Cherokees with three leader diesel engines. 316 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 1: The allegations effect roughly a hundred and four thousand vehicles. 317 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: That's the part I don't get. I don't get why Chrysler. 318 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: You know, you look at it, three model years of vehicles, 319 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 1: Ram pickup trucks and Jeep Grand Cherokees. They only sold 320 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:54,880 Speaker 1: a hundred and four thousand of those vehicles with diesels. 321 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: How do you justify even coming up with the tooling 322 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 1: and the engineering to create that car. But yeah, the 323 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: great article, um Via Chrysler's in trouble. They're they're they're 324 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 1: lining it to the level of Volkswagen in a sense 325 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: in scale. And I've got to tell you, Chrysler does 326 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 1: not have the pocketbook that that Volkswagen has. So it's 327 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:17,640 Speaker 1: gonna be interesting to see how this one unfolds. Um, 328 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: I happen to know somebody. A matter of fact, the 329 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: lady at the deli that makes me breakfast on Friday, 330 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: she owns one of these diesel jeeps, and all she 331 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 1: ever tells me is it hardly ever runs. It's the 332 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 1: biggest piece of junks she ever bought. So they can't 333 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 1: be great vehicles. It's um, it's interesting to see and watch. Hey, 334 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,160 Speaker 1: I'm running Nating of the Car Doctor, coming back to 335 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: keep on traveling. Stay with us. I'll be back right 336 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 1: after this. 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And 353 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: even even if we're not on in your market and 354 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 1: you're listening via the stream or whatever, you can call 355 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 1: the eight five five number anytime Saturday's two to four 356 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: pm Eastern Time and get up here and get on 357 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 1: live and we can talk to you about your car problem. Hey, 358 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: let's kick let's kick those doors back open. Let's go 359 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 1: over to Chuck in an Sonia, Connecticut. O H Chevy 360 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: HHR Chuck. Welcome to the car doctor, Sir. How can 361 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 1: I help? Hey? Run Um, I got the Chevy that 362 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 1: the brake light comes on and I think it's causing 363 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: the computer to kick off the A, B, S and traction, 364 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 1: But it comes on whenever it's hold. I just got 365 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 1: back from a five in a mile round trip for 366 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 1: parts on my hot rod and it was on until 367 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 1: the temperature reached over threety two degrees and then went off. 368 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 1: The car is due for a break flush? Could the 369 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 1: moisture because I don't know what new sensors they have 370 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 1: on the brake system. I don't. I don't. I don't 371 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 1: know if anything temperature wise. When you say the break light, 372 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,119 Speaker 1: you're talking the red brake light or the A B 373 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 1: S warning light on the red brake light. Okay, have 374 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: you checked break fluid level? Yes. I went to start 375 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 1: to flush the last weekend and I got two of 376 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: the leaders to work. A couple of them more stuck, 377 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:56,879 Speaker 1: so I have to finish that off. But I made 378 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 1: sure I'm topped off. But the brake the break fluid 379 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 1: level is good. Yes, Okay, you know the red brake 380 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:07,159 Speaker 1: light by itself, there's only a couple of things that 381 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: make that come on. One's parking break. The other is 382 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 1: fluid level. The other is the fluid sensor. If there 383 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 1: was a fault in the A B S or in 384 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 1: the computer side, if we can call it like that 385 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,399 Speaker 1: of the brake system, meaning the A B S, there 386 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,159 Speaker 1: would be a fault code in the dashlight to be 387 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: lit up. In this particular case. Yeah, I haven't checked 388 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 1: too much into it. But the parking breaks that causes 389 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 1: the it's puts a message up on the screens. Do 390 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 1: I know it's not that the level is good. Um, 391 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:42,120 Speaker 1: you know, unless unless the fluid is really gummy and 392 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: yucky for a non technical term, and it's it's got 393 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: a sensor issue. But there just isn't a whole lot 394 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:53,439 Speaker 1: more to this system other than that. Okay, yeah, they 395 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 1: were kind of black when it uh bled the front brakes, 396 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 1: but I'll look into that. I don't have a anner 397 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 1: to check into that. Let me let me let me 398 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 1: ask you this, chuck, when you take the is this 399 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 1: a screw on cap? Master? Is this a liftoff cap? 400 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:14,640 Speaker 1: Screw off cap? So when you look at this, there's 401 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: a front half and a back half, you sure there's 402 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,640 Speaker 1: fluid in both levels of the reservoir to equal height. 403 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 1: It goes under the cowl. So I haven't really looked right. 404 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 1: It's kind of it's kind of tough to see and 405 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: and what I my what my experience has been if 406 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 1: to break fluid as dark as you're saying, sometimes it 407 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 1: puts a residue line on the side of the Master 408 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 1: and you can't you know, you think it's up to 409 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 1: that level, but it's not. Yeah, well I was the 410 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 1: level I was looking at where Um I pour it 411 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: in right, but just keep in mind. If you're looking 412 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 1: at the front half the part you can see there's 413 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 1: more of that plastic reservoir under the cowl area that 414 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 1: you can't see. So you've got to look back there 415 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 1: as well, just to be sure that that's up to 416 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 1: and I'm sure it probably is. But again we're just 417 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 1: trying to be, you know, as thorough as we can. Yeah, well, 418 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:13,119 Speaker 1: I'll check that now, plush my brakes and go from there. 419 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,400 Speaker 1: The other issue I have on the car is all 420 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 1: four tires wear on the inside. We placed the front 421 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: components with moove uh and all that, but that was 422 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:29,400 Speaker 1: rotating the tires and I noticed the tires there one 423 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 1: but they won't stand up. The fall over if you 424 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 1: leave them sit there, um, and they all four fall 425 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:43,120 Speaker 1: over to the outside and they're all wearing on the inside. Okay, 426 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 1: I'm not sure what falling over designates. I've never done. 427 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 1: It's a pretty white tire, and you would think that 428 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 1: you could put put the tire on the ground standing up, 429 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 1: let go and it would stand up, but it falls 430 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 1: over to the outside. I would think it's ends on 431 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: how much are you got in the tire. I've never 432 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:05,199 Speaker 1: done that. Testing forty three years truck. I've always you know, 433 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 1: it's it's because if you look at a tire, a 434 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 1: tire is a little bulged in the middle. I don't 435 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 1: know of any tire when it's got you know, it's 436 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 1: pressure in it, thirty forty, whatever it is, it's always 437 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 1: bulged in the middle a little bit because it's got 438 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:18,679 Speaker 1: to compensate. You got to realize when you put the 439 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 1: weight of a vehicle on it, when you put two 440 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 1: tons of pressure on those four tires, it's gonna level 441 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 1: it out and you know, make it sit square to 442 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 1: the ground because loaded weight is different than unloaded. So 443 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 1: I don't know that that would be I don't know 444 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: that that would be a good judgment of that. What 445 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,680 Speaker 1: I would tell you is if the tires are continually 446 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 1: wearing the inside edges, is it all four tires wear 447 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 1: the inside edges or is it that as you rotate 448 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: them through the inside edges of the front now to 449 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: the back, it looks like all four but it's really not. 450 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 1: Do we have a toe in issue? Do we have 451 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 1: a toe issue up front or or or some other 452 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,639 Speaker 1: alignment issue, or do we have an alignment issue on 453 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: the vehicle overall? Yeah, I think it would have to 454 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 1: be a overall because I've replaced, like I said, I 455 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:05,400 Speaker 1: replace all the troll arms and all the subsension components. Well, 456 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:10,880 Speaker 1: I'm not at a line. Okay, Now, who did the alignment? Um? 457 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 1: I usually go to the local firestorm shop. Um, if 458 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 1: they're the only guys doing the alignment, Yes, all right? 459 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 1: Do you get a print out before and after? All right? 460 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,920 Speaker 1: Does it show that it's in a line? Yes, everything's 461 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,360 Speaker 1: in the ingrain. I do have an issue on one 462 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 1: of the facts where it's just barely within tolerance, but 463 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:34,879 Speaker 1: I got that much of a justin they can do 464 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:39,120 Speaker 1: on that. Well, how how long has how long has 465 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 1: the car been doing this tire wear issue? Really years, 466 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 1: I've been one of the things I've been fighting with 467 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 1: the car. Tell them to look on their alignment machine. 468 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,439 Speaker 1: Chances are that there's a way and a spec. They 469 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 1: might have to remove something and put on a couple 470 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 1: of it on shims or make some modifications to it. 471 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 1: But I almost be willing to bet that there is 472 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 1: a way to adjust those rear alignment angles that aren't adjustable. Okay, 473 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:15,880 Speaker 1: all right, all right, appreciate, okay, sir, Good luck to you. Zero, 474 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:51,199 Speaker 1: We're coming back right after this. Welcome back. We're at 475 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 1: the end of the card. Doctor. A five five zero 476 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 1: zero is the phone number call in now number. 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I just want 496 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: to say, um uh I'm glad I found your show 497 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: on the internet. I used to listen in New York 498 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 1: about ten years ago. Okay, I learned a lots on 499 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 1: your show. Thank you, sir for basic Carl Car knowledge. Um, 500 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 1: I I know I you we talk a lot about Volkswagen, 501 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,199 Speaker 1: but I was wondering if you know if it's a 502 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:07,120 Speaker 1: bad card to invest in in two thousand seventeen. Well, 503 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. I'll tell you what, Nicholas Ah, 504 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 1: let me ask you this question, how bad do you 505 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 1: want a Volkswagen? Well, I really I've always liked the 506 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 1: Jetta for some reason. I have a two thousand seven 507 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 1: Cobalt Bot. Now I keep up with the maintenance, but 508 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 1: I'm just like, I'm bored of driving it. Okay, So 509 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 1: you know, and and all fair points. Who's gonna work 510 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 1: on the Volkswagen. Uh, That's what I was hoping you 511 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,160 Speaker 1: would know. Is it hard to find a Volkswagen mechanic 512 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 1: in Florida? Well, and the the key comes to that. 513 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 1: Volkswagen and and in their technology requires somebody. You know. 514 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 1: I won't say they've got to have blonde hair, blue eyes, 515 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 1: but they've got to be close to it. They've got 516 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 1: to be from the fatherland, so to speak. Uh, you know, 517 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 1: they've got to they've got to walk to walk and 518 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 1: talk to talk because they are a very specific car. 519 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:59,239 Speaker 1: They're very particular. Um, you know, it's it's and and 520 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 1: that's exactly what it is. When the local Volkswagen dealer 521 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 1: up here has issues fixing Volkswagens, and I see that firsthand. 522 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 1: My sister owns a Beatle and to this day they 523 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 1: haven't been able to fix the car. So when when 524 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 1: her car, when it's cold out, her her doors freeze. 525 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 1: And their answer was, when you parked the car the 526 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 1: night before, I used the remote start to set it up, 527 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 1: put the heat on, start the car for twenty minutes. 528 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 1: That'll follow the car out. That way he can get 529 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,719 Speaker 1: the doors open so you can go to work. And 530 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 1: I said, I said, really, that's their answer. She said, yeah, 531 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 1: Why isn't that okay? Well, you know, uh so you know, 532 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 1: a Volkswagen is only as good as the guy working 533 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 1: on it. Like any other car, the question is who's 534 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 1: gonna work on it. When they're new, they're great, They 535 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 1: really are. There a lot of fun. They're a blessed 536 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 1: to drive as long as you get a good one, 537 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 1: they're a nice car. A lot of good engineering, a 538 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 1: lot of good conceptual practical you know, thought goes into 539 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 1: building a Volkswagen fix room. It gets to be expensive, 540 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 1: is the car's age. You know, to me in my experience, 541 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 1: they're not the cheapest thing to keep on the road. 542 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 1: But then to a large degree, what is um I 543 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 1: will say this their engines. Their engines are great there 544 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 1: you know, you'll take the engine apart of a hundred 545 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 1: fifty thousand miles, it's still got the cross hatch in 546 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 1: the cylinder walls. They're just seating the rings. But the 547 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 1: rest of the car, the electronics, yeah, it can be 548 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 1: it can be an issue. But you know, most important, 549 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 1: I think Volkswagen is clearly one of those cars that, yeah, 550 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 1: the guy that's working on it, this is not what 551 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 1: i'll call a gas station car. You can't think of 552 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 1: that with the Bob's and you know, Bob's got the 553 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 1: kid working the pumps and the service in your Volkswagen 554 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 1: on the side. You know, then again, what is today 555 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 1: Not that a lot of cars are like that today, 556 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 1: but it's just it's just getting very particular. So I 557 00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 1: think to answer your question in all fairness, Nicholas. I 558 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 1: think it really comes down to, you know, my opinion, 559 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 1: it's not for the faint of heart. You've you've got 560 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 1: to be willing to pay for it and enjoy it. 561 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 1: And that's okay. Life's too short. I say that all 562 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 1: the time. You know, what if if you really want 563 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 1: to Volkswagen, I say, get a Volkswagen. I you know what, 564 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 1: dri enjoy it? Okay. I I assume the same. The 565 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 1: same answer would be if I asked you about a 566 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 1: because that's a very unique car too, I would imagine. So, yeah, 567 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,479 Speaker 1: but I'll tell you what I think. MAS is a 568 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 1: little bit more independent, repair shop friendly than Volkswagen. All right, yeah, 569 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 1: well see a lot of it too. Is you know 570 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 1: how how readily available is information for me right now? 571 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 1: For me in North Jersey, it's it's difficult finding a 572 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 1: Volkswagen dealer they can get me parts. Huh, all right, 573 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 1: it's it's not the easiest thing in the world to 574 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 1: get parts for as funny as that sounds. And you know, 575 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 1: it's just I'm not I can't explain it. I'm not 576 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 1: really sure why. But you know, well, yeah I'm not. 577 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 1: I'm not ready. I'm not ready for that yet. I um, 578 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 1: but you know, when it comes to Masda, my mas 579 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 1: the dealer is great again. Who's gonna work on it? 580 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 1: Where are we getting parts from? That's the key, and 581 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 1: that's you know, and and I can't say it's just 582 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 1: this one Volkswagen dealer. I hear its stories about. It's 583 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 1: a lot of the Volkswagen dealers in the area. So 584 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 1: just you know what, do some research on the dealer 585 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 1: whichever you're gonna buy, and and kind of go from there. 586 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 1: But you know, real quick, Nicholas, how old are you okay? 587 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 1: By by the Volkswagen. You'll feel good about it. You'll 588 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 1: get rid of it by the time you're forty. Well, 589 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 1: I was hoping to keep it for ten years because 590 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 1: my car now is ten years old. All right. Well 591 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 1: that you may not be able to do, but that 592 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 1: will determine by be determined by who works on it, 593 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 1: all right, kiddo. That's that's good to know. I didn't 594 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 1: realize that years. Well, it's after five years the cost 595 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 1: to repair gets very expensive in my in my experience, 596 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 1: So alright, sir, I gotta go him up against the clock. 597 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 1: Thanks for calling, Nicholas, and good luck in your motoring ways. 598 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 1: Zero we're coming back right after this. Don't go away back, Hey, 599 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 1: welcome back. Why don't leading of the car doctor. I'm 600 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 1: thinking back over the calls this hour. We had Chuck 601 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 1: from Connecticut with the h HR talking about the alignments, 602 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 1: and I just want to stress this before we leave 603 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 1: this hour because I hear this far too often. I've 604 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 1: been taking the car in for alignment. They did the alignment, 605 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 1: everything was in the green, but the tires still we're funny, 606 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 1: and there's nothing more they can do that's wrong, all right. 607 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 1: In the case of Isa HHR, there are front camera 608 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,760 Speaker 1: bolts that can be replaced to give you a better 609 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:14,719 Speaker 1: or give you adjustable alignment beyond just toe. And in 610 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,360 Speaker 1: the rear there are parts that can be replaced to 611 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,880 Speaker 1: give you alignment beyond just toe. If that and my 612 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:26,239 Speaker 1: point is some alignment places are doing a toe and go. 613 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 1: They're charging you a flat feed. They're doing alignment alignment, 614 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:37,279 Speaker 1: the alignment, whatever ridiculous price they've come up with to 615 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 1: lure you in the door, to get you in as 616 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 1: a loss leader. Let me explain it to you like this, 617 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 1: an alignment machine, a decent alignment machine in today's dollars, 618 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 1: is about forty grand. All right, Start thinking about how 619 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 1: are they making money to keep the lights on, feeding 620 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 1: everybody and staying in business doing alignments for seventy five 621 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 1: bucks a throw. If that's the average number, An alignment 622 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,919 Speaker 1: typically takes forty five minutes to an hour, depending upon 623 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 1: what adjustments have to be made. There's gotta be a 624 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,879 Speaker 1: return on investment for that piece of equipment. It's it's 625 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 1: the cost of doing business. Now. If you can't understand that, 626 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 1: then you've got to get used to it. Because understand 627 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 1: the next generation, the coming generation of four wheel alignment 628 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 1: machines is seventy thousand dollars seventy dollars. Think about that. 629 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 1: How are they going to do that? How are the 630 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 1: tow and go alignment places gonna survive charging seventy dollars 631 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 1: a pop for an alignment. It's gonna cost the money. 632 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:43,440 Speaker 1: It's costing the money. Now it's gonna cost them more money. 633 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 1: So my point is, if you go to a tow 634 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 1: and go and they tell you that's it, it's in 635 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 1: the green, I think it's somewhere else. Or tell them 636 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 1: look on the machine, because chances are there's a way 637 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,239 Speaker 1: to do that adjustment. This is gonna take more time 638 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,759 Speaker 1: and more money and more effort. I'm r Anadi in 639 00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 1: the car. Doctor. The mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. See everyone. 640 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:06,960 Speaker 1: She was star