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Speaker 1: Good morning, sweet world. Welcome to the Now Dunks podcast

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Speaker 1: on the Athletic Network of Fine Network. It's Tuesday, April nineteenth.

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Speaker 1: Thum j E. Skeets alongside me here in the yard.

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Speaker 1: We got Tas Millie.

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Speaker 3: What's up everybody?

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Speaker 1: What's up Tassy? We got our top shot hot boy,

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Speaker 1: Trey Kirby. Hey, hey, the international man of mystery taking

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Speaker 1: it to the max le Ellis m m m man last,

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Speaker 1: certainly not least super producer GD. Hello, there is and

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Speaker 1: in your NBA questions too, No Dunks at Theathletic dot Com,

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Speaker 1: we got lots to get to here. Games are coming

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Speaker 1: fast and furious. You could almost say it's forty games

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Speaker 1: in forty nights. Forty games and forty nights. Let's start

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Speaker 1: with the West Boys, and then we'll unfortunately talk about

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Speaker 1: the Raptors get themselves into a two oh hole, and

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Speaker 1: we'll get into Marcus Smart winning defensive player there a

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Speaker 1: little bit later, but Jalen Brunson is the story of

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Speaker 1: the day. Tasks scoring forty one points as the MAVs

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Speaker 1: make twenty two to three pointers in the game to

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Speaker 1: win over the Jazz.

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Speaker 3: Fantastic. We don't have to talk about the Raptors to start.

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Speaker 3: Also fantastic talking about this Mavericks Jazz game that had

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Speaker 3: it all so wicked shot making and some strategy at

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Speaker 3: the end of it. Start with the shot making. Yet

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Speaker 3: Jalen Brunson coming off a bad game one where the

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Speaker 3: Maps absolutely need him to be a star without Luka Doncic,

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Speaker 3: he struggled in game one, and he came out you

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Speaker 3: could see it in his eyes. He was extremely focused

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Speaker 3: and he started taking a lot more threes than he

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Speaker 3: did in game one, ten threes versus three threes, and

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Speaker 3: he was absolutely on fire. But despite him ending with

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Speaker 3: forty one points, the Jazz were still leading going to

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Speaker 3: the fourth quarter because Dovvin Mitchell some great shot making

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Speaker 3: of his own. He had twenty one in the first half.

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Speaker 3: He looked like the superstar and the MAVs just couldn't

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Speaker 3: Jalen Brunson. They were staying right there three four, five points.

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Speaker 3: But it wasn't until the fourth quarter where the strategy happens. Here,

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Speaker 3: they took their center, Dwight Powell off the floor and

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Speaker 3: they made Rudy Gobert guard a three point shooter. The

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Speaker 3: and the MAVs were switching or setting a pick with

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Speaker 3: somebody besides Rudy Gobert's guy, and the three started falling,

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Speaker 3: mainly for Maxi Kleiba, who hit eight threes, eight threes

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Speaker 3: the fourth quarter they pulled away. They had twenty two

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Speaker 3: threes in all I can't I gotta stop Maxi kleve

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Speaker 3: But eight threes twenty five points, that's a lot of

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Speaker 3: threes in a playoff game. That's just a ton. If

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Speaker 3: He hit eight threes once, but just a ton of threes.

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Speaker 3: And you guys tell me whether this was smart by

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Speaker 3: the Jazz to not have Rudy Gobert involved in any

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Speaker 3: up getting a split exactly what they wanted without Luka Doncic.

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Speaker 3: that end of game strategy, man, it hurt. It obviously

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you think Lee? What Tass is asking there?

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Speaker 1: How Quinn Snyder and the Jazz ultimately elected to play

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Speaker 1: that defense what well like Groundhog Day. Every single play there,

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Speaker 1: it was like basically Brunson usually attacking, blowing by whatever

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Speaker 4: Well, I guess if you're the Jazz, you're thinking you

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Speaker 4: pick your poison. Then you say, Okay, we'll dare these

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Speaker 4: the big concern he's here. A couple of those threes

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Speaker 4: well was they were just attacking Donovan Mitchell too on

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Speaker 4: problems right now. They can't execute in the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 4: That's been a problem for them all season long. Donovan

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Speaker 4: Mitchell went i think three for eleven in that fourth quarter. Now,

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Speaker 4: he's had statistically okay games here and one and two,

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Speaker 4: but when the game's there to be won, I'm just

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Speaker 4: not sure he's able to deliver because it's just something

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Speaker 4: that is a consistent theme. So that's the concern now.

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Speaker 4: When Rudy Gobert's out, if you've got one of the

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Speaker 4: whether it is going out to the perimeter and stopping

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Speaker 4: Brunson got into the paint easily there last night. I've

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Speaker 4: already mentioned there that Dinwiddy got past his perimeter defender.

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Speaker 4: So the Jazz perimeter defense has to be much better.

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Speaker 4: Mike Conley has not been good so far. He was

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Speaker 4: bad offensively and defensively. I think he showed his age

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Speaker 4: a little bit there last night. So, you know, like

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Speaker 4: the MAVs just it felt like anyone who got an

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Speaker 4: and the Jazz just simply did not have an offensive

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Speaker 4: just couldn't generate the offense they needed themselves. Again, another

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Speaker 4: problem there, Rudy Gobert. I think he finished with what

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Speaker 4: that's where Quinn Snyder's struggling to get you an answer

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Speaker 4: Donovan sort of threw it in there to Rudy last

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Speaker 4: you know, what's his name, Bogdanovic has been okay for them,

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Speaker 4: win for the Mavericks. But when Jalen Brunson is in

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Speaker 4: that sort of feel like that last night, you know,

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Speaker 4: we talked about on Yesterdays show, like the Jazz should

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Speaker 4: be two zero up in this series. It's not a

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Speaker 4: knock on those Mavericks players, but when you're missing your

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Speaker 4: two potential All NBA players, they had two All Stars.

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Speaker 4: They should be able to put their stamp on this game,

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Speaker 4: and they're just not able to. They don't have that

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Speaker 4: think that's the real concern. But this has been happening,

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Speaker 4: back to Utah two zero up, Luca may come back,

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Speaker 4: We're not sure. They just haven't looked convincing anyway, even

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Speaker 4: though the series is won one and that's normally a

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Speaker 4: good result for the team on the road.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you think, Trey, what's your take on

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Speaker 1: this game?

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Speaker 5: This is a weird game because you look at basically

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Speaker 5: career nights for both Jalen Brunson and Maxi Kleiba, especially

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Speaker 5: considering Kleba had really struggled after the All Star Break.

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Speaker 5: I think he was nineteen percent from three. You see

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Speaker 5: the MAVs hit a playoff high twenty two threes. You think, man,

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Speaker 5: maybe this is the kind of win that is not

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Speaker 5: something that's easy to replicate. Are we going to get

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Speaker 5: twenty two threes? But it also felt super replicable. I

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Speaker 5: think that's the word, because you know, the Jazz can't

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Speaker 5: even need to go pick and roll. They don't even

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Speaker 5: They just blow by and then go bear helps and

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Speaker 5: then somebody's wide open for three in the corner. Seventeen

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Speaker 5: uncontested threes. Even Lee Ellis would probably be hitting eight

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Speaker 5: just a matter of actually knocking him down and making it.

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Speaker 5: Maybe that was part of the Jazz strategy. Let's see

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Speaker 5: if Kleba can beat us. He did beat you last night.

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Speaker 6: But I don't know.

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Speaker 5: Maybe they tell Rudy, don't help, just stay to the corner,

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Speaker 5: don't give up.

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Speaker 1: A three.

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Speaker 5: Two is worth way less than three. We can maybe

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Speaker 5: win the math problem there if if we're trading twos

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Speaker 5: for twos. But as an impressive win for the Mavericks,

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Speaker 5: a great game for Brunson. I thought he was much

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Speaker 5: to score and when to actually pass it. It seemed

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Speaker 5: like in Game one, as soon as either Dinwitti or

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Speaker 5: Brunson would get past the first line of defense, it

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Speaker 5: was a floater fest. This time, they were kicking out

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Speaker 5: to threes and that made a huge difference, making twenty

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Speaker 5: Utah Jazz just twenty nine last night. I think they

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Speaker 5: had twenty two in game one. This is a team

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Speaker 5: that loves to shoot threes. Was a really good offensive

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Speaker 5: get into the hole. Jordan Clarkson had a nice game,

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Speaker 5: but then they also got to shoot threes as well,

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Speaker 5: so kudos to the MAVs for taking that away. But

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Speaker 5: I don't know, it feels like this is kind of

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Speaker 5: gonna be the games here. The Jazz are gonna scrap

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Speaker 5: it out. They're gonna not look incredible offensively until they

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Speaker 5: get really hot from three at some point, and the

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Speaker 5: MAVs are gonna have to continue to be hot from three.

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Speaker 5: I've changed my mind. I don't think they should ever

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Speaker 5: give Gobert the ball inside. I saw a post move

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it does feel like it's this weird circumstance trade

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I actually think both teams should probably be happy

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Speaker 6: I assume the Jazz.

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Speaker 5: They're running out of guys at this point. It's like

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Speaker 5: Those are the good point, to be quite honest, for me,

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Speaker 1: coming on the right side of the floor. So maybe

430
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Speaker 1: try and like shadow him that way, force him that

431
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Speaker 1: way a little bit more. If you're going to be

432
00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,840
Speaker 1: a turnstyle on defense, at least set the turnstile up

433
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Speaker 1: in the in a spot where you're forcing him to

434
00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:53,239
Speaker 1: go to the right side because he doesn't really want to.

435
00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:55,720
Speaker 1: This guy loves, of course going left. But that's my

436
00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:57,520
Speaker 1: only final note on this game here.

437
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Speaker 3: Well, he was ridiculously a fish. And I thought in

438
00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:03,679
Speaker 3: his dribbles he really just just took a couple and

439
00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:06,840
Speaker 3: found his way to the rim. There wasn't no over dribbling.

440
00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:09,320
Speaker 3: It wasn't quite you know, Klay Thompson. I'm just firing away.

441
00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:12,840
Speaker 3: But he just wasn't wasting any energy. He was just

442
00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:16,920
Speaker 3: ridiculous to score forty one as a career high regular

443
00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,919
Speaker 3: season playoffs or whatever, you know, blowing by his career

444
00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:24,159
Speaker 3: high zero turnovers. And the Maps can look at this

445
00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:28,080
Speaker 3: when Luca comes back and say, this guy is obviously

446
00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,000
Speaker 3: our number two player and we can rely on him

447
00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,320
Speaker 3: like we rely on Luca. I mean he is he

448
00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,119
Speaker 3: is absolutely locked in. So that's that's the thing that

449
00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:38,240
Speaker 3: they've got going for him. He can be, you know,

450
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Speaker 3: our number two, and I know he sort of has

451
00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:43,360
Speaker 3: been all season, but really rely on him to create

452
00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:47,399
Speaker 3: because this is I mean, the Maps are in the

453
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Speaker 3: driver's seat. I don't care if you know they're going

454
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Speaker 3: home to Utah. The map. This is the map series

455
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Speaker 3: to lose. One final note, I was watching the Maps

456
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Speaker 3: broadcast and the mass broadcasters said, you know, NBA TV

457
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Speaker 3: is here. This is a big game. It's the playoffs

458
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Speaker 3: Number one, every game is on national television, and if

459
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Speaker 3: your game, if your game is on NBA TV, that

460
00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,680
Speaker 3: means that it's not as big as the other. Right,

461
00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:19,160
Speaker 3: So that's an unfortunate mistake by Arman. Derrek, Harper, Followill

462
00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,840
Speaker 3: or skin Weight wouldn't make that mistake. But he was

463
00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:26,440
Speaker 3: basically saying, jail Brut's performing for the national TV crowd. Yeah,

464
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Speaker 3: it happens in the postseason, Harp, you know it many

465
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Speaker 3: so NBA TV was there.

466
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Speaker 1: NBA TV gets a game two of the Wolves Grizzlies tonight,

467
00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:38,919
Speaker 1: which had a lot of people a little perplexed. Some

468
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Speaker 1: of those big stars in John Morant and Cat and Edwards.

469
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Speaker 1: We're not on maybe the other channel, but anyway, any

470
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Speaker 1: other notes? Trey or Leon on the Mavericks tying up

471
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Speaker 1: this series one one?

472
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Speaker 6: No notes?

473
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Speaker 1: All right, Well let's move on to Steph Curry scoring

474
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Speaker 1: thirty four points off the bench. What a luxury as

475
00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,960
Speaker 1: the Warriors take the two ozero series lead over the

476
00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 1: frustrated Nuggets. Trey, what do you got man?

477
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Speaker 5: Forty games and forty nights, skeets, We've had eleven in

478
00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:11,600
Speaker 5: three nights. I think that's right. If you want to

479
00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:13,840
Speaker 5: go back to Friday. You could say thirteen and four nights,

480
00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,399
Speaker 5: but eleven real playoff games. And for me, nobody has

481
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,560
Speaker 5: been more impressive than the Golden State Warriors, who went

482
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Speaker 5: from barely having set lineups to having a lineup so

483
00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,200
Speaker 5: tough that there are arguments about what to name it.

484
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Speaker 5: The new three G fast five splash Brothers are tough

485
00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:39,080
Speaker 5: G somuch three G three G an outdated technology. Yeah,

486
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:42,720
Speaker 5: the palm pilots are looking good out there. It was

487
00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,800
Speaker 5: an incredible performance though, from the three G lineup, the

488
00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,679
Speaker 5: three guards, if you will. Thirty four points five threes

489
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,000
Speaker 5: for Steph Curry like you mentioned at skeets just twenty

490
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:54,000
Speaker 5: three minutes off the bench, twenty nine points five threes,

491
00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:58,200
Speaker 5: eight assists for Jordan Steph Curry Junior pool and twenty

492
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,840
Speaker 5: one points and three threes for klay'son. Maybe the Suns

493
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,480
Speaker 5: will have an answer for this team, but Denver definitely

494
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,320
Speaker 5: doesn't because the Warriors right now have three players you

495
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 5: have to guard from thirty or more feet two of them,

496
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,640
Speaker 5: and Steph and Jordan Poole are great off the dribble

497
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,000
Speaker 5: clay if you switch and he's got a guy on

498
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,440
Speaker 5: him who's four inches shorter, he's going into the post

499
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:21,159
Speaker 5: and hitting a jumper oven over him. Draymond awesome passing

500
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,120
Speaker 5: right now, allowing him to focus completely on defense, where

501
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:27,200
Speaker 5: he is the best defender in the NBA right now.

502
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,240
Speaker 5: And then Andrew Wiggins has been incredible as well, just

503
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 5: exploiting the little extra space he has out there. Fifteen

504
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:36,359
Speaker 5: points per game on fifty five percent shooting. He's bringing

505
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,359
Speaker 5: it on the defensive end and hitting the glass pretty

506
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,159
Speaker 5: hard as well. There have been explosions in both Games

507
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 5: one and Games two Game two where the Warriors look

508
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:46,480
Speaker 5: like they did the first half of the season when

509
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,920
Speaker 5: everybody's saying, this is a title contending team right here.

510
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,120
Speaker 5: Only eleven minutes together so far for the fast five

511
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,399
Speaker 5: in this series, and they're a plus twenty nine forty

512
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:58,280
Speaker 5: seven points on twenty two shots. It's it's incredible things

513
00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 5: could change in Denver. But then gets really look beat

514
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 5: right now. Another dud game for Aaron Gordon seven points

515
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 5: on three of nine shooting, just looks completely lost out there.

516
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 5: Will Barton took fifteen shots to score twelve points, started

517
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:15,200
Speaker 5: fighting with bad vibesman DeMarcus Cousins on the sidelines there

518
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,360
Speaker 5: and then twenty six points on twenty shots for Jokic.

519
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 5: The battle with Draymond is so much fun to watch

520
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 5: those two. Also eleven rebounds for Jokic, But the big

521
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,440
Speaker 5: number to me four assists last night for Jokic before

522
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Speaker 5: the ejection. He's averaging five for this series, and that

523
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Speaker 5: was the key to me. Jokic is gonna score like

524
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Speaker 5: he's gonna It's tough for him against Draymond because he

525
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 5: Draymond's such a strong defender. He can take the bumps

526
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:38,399
Speaker 5: and then his hands are so quick and so strong

527
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 5: that he can actually influence it Yokic's shot on the

528
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 5: way up. But taking away the assists and the Nuggets

529
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 5: role players just not doing anything really in this series,

530
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 5: at least when at least when they absolutely need it

531
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 5: has has been the difference. So yeah, the Warriors to

532
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,440
Speaker 5: me look as good as they have looked the entire

533
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Speaker 5: season right now, which is exactly what you want to

534
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Speaker 5: see after not knowing how they were gonna look at

535
00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 5: all going into the playoffs.

536
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Speaker 1: It's it's wild task. What do you like for the

537
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:04,640
Speaker 1: new Warriors death lineup?

538
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 3: You like?

539
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,439
Speaker 1: I mean? And it is just for those that don't know,

540
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 1: it is Curry, clay Pool. That's the three Guards they got,

541
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 1: Draymond and Wiggeds. That's the new Warriors death lineup. People

542
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 1: call it fast five PTSD has been thrown around liquid lineup,

543
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 1: what Pool party, death con five. A lot of these

544
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Speaker 1: coming by way of stat muse and other people chiming in.

545
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Speaker 1: Do you do you have a favorite of that bunch

546
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,359
Speaker 1: uh tasks or something else? Or are you like, why

547
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 1: do we need a name for this lineup that's played,

548
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 1: you know, twenty minutes whatever it is against the Nuggets?

549
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 3: Yeah? Did you say eleven minutes to this point? Trey?

550
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 3: That's freaking nuts, very few because it's so impactful when

551
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,639
Speaker 3: it's out there. I like the the connection to the

552
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,439
Speaker 3: death lineup, if there is one, there really isn't. I

553
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:50,919
Speaker 3: mean the post mortem lineup.

554
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Speaker 1: I heard death con like death Con five boom, yeah

555
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 1: like that.

556
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Speaker 3: I don't think so. I think I think there's got

557
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 3: to be like a yeah post with something death is

558
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 3: something death too. There's got to be something better with

559
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:10,119
Speaker 3: the death, like you know, the new iteration the death dynasty.

560
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,239
Speaker 3: I don't know that we're working on it, you know,

561
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 3: if they're gonna get a name, they if we're gonna

562
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 3: if we're gonna annoint them with the name, they got

563
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,199
Speaker 3: to get to the second rounds very at least, and

564
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:27,680
Speaker 3: I think everybody can swash it around for another week

565
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 3: or so and figure it out, because there's there's something

566
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 3: better in that. But I think Jordan Poole, I mean

567
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,120
Speaker 3: he is, he's trusted by Steve Kerr obviously, because he's

568
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,439
Speaker 3: not taken any more of those dumb shots. He's taken

569
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 3: thirteen shots and sixteen shots as the starting point guard.

570
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 3: He's scoring fifty nine points on twenty nine shots. And

571
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Speaker 3: they can just allow Steph, one of the best guards ever,

572
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,919
Speaker 3: to come off the bench. And Steph obviously, you know,

573
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 3: one of the best teammates and superstars ever. He could

574
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 3: be playing out there thirty five minutes a game, he

575
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 3: could be starting, but he's comfortable coming off the bench,

576
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:04,119
Speaker 3: which is pretty freaking cool for this team at this point.

577
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,439
Speaker 3: So he's he's trying to gear up and be his best.

578
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,120
Speaker 3: And round two, it sure looks like, and then round

579
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 3: three if they do face the Phoenix Suns, which yeah,

580
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,920
Speaker 3: I'm already starting to think about how the Sun's guard

581
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 3: this team, because yeah, when those three are out there

582
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 3: as Trey said, thirty feet and out. Those guys are

583
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 3: spreading it. Wiggins is mister mid ranger. And Draymond's really

584
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 3: really comfortable taking threes even right now. And the other

585
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,680
Speaker 3: side is fun to watch, just Draymond against Jokic, and

586
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 3: I think Draymond is getting some reputation non calls the

587
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 3: way he's getting physical in the post. God, it's fun

588
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:45,119
Speaker 3: to watch. But Jokic's ribs. Man. They're they're taking shot

589
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 3: after shot after shot, and I could see why he's passed,

590
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 3: and I can see why he gets ejected, like he's

591
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:55,120
Speaker 3: keeping his cool, but you know he is. He's didn't like.

592
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 1: Somebody slapping him on the button that he was going

593
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 1: to like destroy Gary Payton second there.

594
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, he could get pissed after every play. I think

595
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 3: he's I think he's keeping somewhat, keeping it cool somewhat

596
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 3: and seeing that no one else can really help him

597
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,399
Speaker 3: out enough to overcome this Warriors offense.

598
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 1: They're frustrated. They're turning into a bunch of temper boys,

599
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 1: is what the Warriors are doing to them. Because, yeah,

600
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 1: he gets ejected because he's like, you know, over it.

601
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,639
Speaker 1: Monty Morris got a technical like guy never gets a

602
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 1: technical Barton and Cousins getting into it, like Trey said,

603
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,159
Speaker 1: a little altercation on the bench, like they're just completely

604
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 1: frustrated and rightfully so it's like, I don't know how

605
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 1: you stop this team, Oh what you do with Steph

606
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 1: Curry for credut Lound's coming off the dam bench. And

607
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,879
Speaker 1: then you have Draymond Green sort of you know, locking

608
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 1: up as much as you can lock up an MVP,

609
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 1: but like making like difficult tiresome, and then nobody else

610
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 1: helping them. It's you know, at a certain point, you're

611
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 1: over it.

612
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Speaker 4: I think yeah, and Draymond I think laid this seed

613
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 4: in the in the day before the game where he

614
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 4: said he's probably gonna go for forty and twenty and know,

615
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 4: playing the mind games there with Nikola jokicch But look Yokic,

616
00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 4: as we you know, he's a great player, but he

617
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 4: does have to be careful with his temper here because

618
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 4: we've seen him get ejected in the past for lashing out.

619
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 4: And last night when he got his second tea, I

620
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 4: can't remember who it was who came right in there closely,

621
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 4: but if they came in a second or two later,

622
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 4: he may have just kept going at the ref of

623
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 4: their and he's sort of flirting with maybe being suspended

624
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 4: because when he gets when he rages like that, he

625
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 4: gets right in the rest face and he needs to

626
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 4: be able to sort of calm himself down a little

627
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 4: bit because he can't cost his team anymore. But I

628
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 4: think the big part of the frustration comes from the

629
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 4: fact that Jordan Poole basically lebrontoed the Nuggets there last night.

630
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 4: Anything he did seemed to go was the right decision,

631
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 4: whether it was that behind the back pass there to

632
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 4: be Elitza, the dancing back into the quarter three pointer

633
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 4: that's just like a real like playground move there. That

634
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 4: was a perfect swish. And then he just every other

635
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 4: shot he seemed to take seemed to just be the

636
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 4: perfect swish here, and the Nuggets are like, oh my god, Okay,

637
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 4: it's Jordan Paul. And then Steph Curry comes off the

638
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 4: bench and he's hitting shots that are just classic Steph

639
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 4: Curri's as well, that one where he got that screen

640
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 4: at the Draymond Green pass and he barely had it

641
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 4: in his hands. He's fall out of bands, he's going

642
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 4: away from the basket and it's like, ah, man if

643
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 4: you're the Nuggets. Is like you just need one or

644
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 4: two little breaks to go your way. Instead it's all

645
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 4: going the other way. And you guys obviously have talked

646
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 4: about Draymond Green being brilliant. I mean, if you look

647
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 4: at his box score, six points, only three rebounds, you know,

648
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 4: like for a defender, usually a guy has a great game.

649
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 4: He sort of mops up a lot of boards. He

650
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 4: only had three rebounds, He had six assists and three steels.

651
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 4: So one of those games where the box score says, oh,

652
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 4: Draymond maybe wasn't that effective, but he was completely dominant there.

653
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 4: And Jokich just knows, like when it's a physical battle

654
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 4: like that, that's exactly what Draymond wants. He wants that

655
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 4: sort of show with strength down there. Knowing that Jokich

656
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 4: is looking around going well, I can't really pass it

657
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 4: out either. I'm not sure these guys can hit these shots.

658
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 4: So he has to do everything he can. But yeah,

659
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 4: this one is looking very very ominous here for the Nuggets.

660
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 4: They may not pick up a win. I mean they

661
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 4: look flustered, they're not getting enough help. The Warriors look

662
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 4: the opposite, Steph Curry has looked like he has no

663
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 4: effect from that the last couple of weeks that he missed.

664
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Speaker 4: The only question is is will Steve Kerr continue to

665
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 4: bring him off the bench, because why not at this point,

666
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 4: you know, Steph Curry seems why not? You have two

667
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 4: Steph Curries right now and Dragon Bullers play and you know,

668
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 4: coaches like that. That's one of the most trickiest things

669
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 4: to tell any players they come off the bench. Most

670
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 4: don't want to do it at any point of their career.

671
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 4: But Steph seems to actually said like, I'm fine with this,

672
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 4: you know, and Jordan Pool's rolling and if you've got

673
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 4: that sort of chemistry right now, I wouldn't be surprised

674
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 4: if Steve Kerr is just like, you want to just

675
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 4: keep this up for the next game at least and

676
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 4: see what happens from there.

677
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 1: So we'll see.

678
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 4: But honestly, for the Nuggets, it's so hard to see

679
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 4: how they are going to get back into it because

680
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 4: they haven't got enough defenders to stop all these guys

681
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 4: who seemingly just can't miss a shot. And then on

682
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 4: the offensive end, it doesn't doesn't feel like anyone's erupted

683
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 4: or on the verge of erupting. Here for the Nuggets,

684
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 4: so could be a quick series.

685
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, the frustration has to come from and it's happened

686
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 1: in both games. The Nuggets have played well for you know,

687
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 1: eighteen minutes of the game and then you know they

688
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 1: let go of the rule. And in this one it

689
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 1: was like that whatever we're calling it, the new death

690
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 1: line up. They come in with like six to go

691
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 1: in the second quarter, they're down something like eight points.

692
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 1: So the Nuggets are leading and by the time you

693
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 1: get to half, it's the Warriors up six. I mean,

694
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 1: it's a twenty two to eight run in half a

695
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: quarter in the blink of an eye. And then you know,

696
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,479
Speaker 1: that's similar to what happened in Game one. The Warriors

697
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,239
Speaker 1: ended that half on an eighteen to four run over

698
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 1: the final three and a half minutes. And it's gotta

699
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 1: be super deflating that. You're like, we're in it, we're fighting,

700
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 1: we're competing, and then holy crap, what just happened. We

701
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 1: just got hit with like three or four threes. We

702
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 1: can't score, and now we're in a hole and we

703
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: got to try and get out of it, and it

704
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 1: just got worse in the third quarter. Yeah, what do

705
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: you think tasks of the Nuggets chances to take. Let's

706
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 1: be honest, to take a game in this when the

707
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 1: Warriors are playing like this.

708
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 3: Nah No, I don't feel like it's going to happen. Yeah,

709
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 3: just it feels like they probably have PTSD. That was

710
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 3: a nickname right right now, you see Adam mind the

711
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 3: PTSD actually stream team chipping in with the nicknames. Cameron

712
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 3: PTSD equals Pool, Thompson, Stref, Steph Draymond. See, that's not bad.

713
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 3: It doesn't matter. That's the thing. It's funny to keep

714
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 3: Wiggans out. And also it doesn't matter who the fifth is.

715
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 3: I think you could see see I thought they played

716
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 3: way more minutes together in these first two games, because

717
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 3: you know they've they've had a little lot of Porter

718
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 3: out there. And that's why the fifth really doesn't matter

719
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 3: to me. I mean it matters, but if it's non

720
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 3: all star Wiggins and it's auto Porter, I think that's

721
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 3: fine too. Also, Ben Trotter liquid Death. Oh that's what

722
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 3: the kids are drinking. Get it on the pod. And

723
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 3: I did see PJ. Tucker postgame drinking the liquid Death.

724
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 3: And I know JD's sons like the Liquid Death. I

725
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 3: don't know if I can sell out for it though.

726
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 3: Stuff is thick thick water. It's the weirdest thing. Yeah,

727
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 3: it's strange, but we'll probably sell out. Yeah, Sean McKay

728
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 3: post Traumatic Stress Dynasty for PTSD. Anyways, we'll get there,

729
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 3: we'll get there. We got some time. I think they're

730
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:10,360
Speaker 3: lasting post first round because yeah, where's it gonna come from.

731
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 3: They're gonna rely on Will Barton and Monte Morris to

732
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 3: do it. But if you can guard Yokich one on one,

733
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 3: and it's obviously proven that they can. Yeah, because it's

734
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 3: not just Draymond Green, Looney's taking his turn as well

735
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 3: to keep Draymond fresh.

736
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 6: Uh.

737
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 3: And these these warriors, Yeah, bring stuff off the bench.

738
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 3: It's gonna be hard. It's gonna be hard with guys

739
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,760
Speaker 3: that are absolutely on fire. We didn't even mentioned. Clay

740
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,839
Speaker 3: is just standing there waiting for the ball and he hit,

741
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:35,399
Speaker 3: you know, he had twenty one.

742
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 1: Uh.

743
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 3: And they have to pay attention to two guys. They're

744
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 3: paying attention to to Pool and Steph when they're on

745
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 3: there together, and then Clay's just opening the corner, just hanging. Uh.

746
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 1: I think we came up with a name a long

747
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 1: time ago. Trey correct name. I'm wrong, but you got

748
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 1: the Splash Brothers and Clay and Curry. You add Jordan Poole,

749
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 1: there's like that fun little mix there. I thought we

750
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 1: were trying to go with like a cannon ball run

751
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,959
Speaker 1: or something like that. You know, you know the can

752
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 1: ball because of the pool and splashes, and they're always

753
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: on a run of some sort.

754
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, at the very least, I would like when they

755
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 5: go on a thirteen to zero run, that's the cannon

756
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 5: ball ball splashing like crazy. Okay, so I think lot

757
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 5: that went in skates. All I can think of is

758
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 5: preseason we did that that TikTok for the Athletic.

759
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,240
Speaker 6: And I know you you were feeling like you've.

760
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 5: Watched a little a little because you ended up saying

761
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 5: that Jordan Poole is gonna win finals MVP. But you

762
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 5: thought it was gonna be somebody else's hot take. You

763
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 5: might end up looking like a genius here. He could

764
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 5: he could win finals MVP. I don't know what his

765
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,879
Speaker 5: odds were at the beginning of the playoffs, but through

766
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 5: two games, certainly they're better than they were at the start.

767
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 6: It's a possibility. It's certainly a possibility.

768
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you for reminding me of that insane prediction. Yeah,

769
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 1: that would be my greatest call of all time. If

770
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:53,800
Speaker 1: goes on to win finals MVP, You'll never hear the

771
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,840
Speaker 1: end of it. I'll bring it up every show anything

772
00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 1: else from this game, this series and what the Nugget

773
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 1: can do? What do you got man? Help Malone out?

774
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 4: What can they do? I mean, hit shots and hope

775
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 4: that every one of those five superstars on the Warriors

776
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 4: has an awful, awful game. You know, I was thinking

777
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 4: of a nickname as well. We've got the Bamboo Boys.

778
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 4: Maybe they're the Bay Bros, And I know there might

779
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 4: be something there. You know, I want to get away

780
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 4: from death and murder and killing and all that. You know,

781
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 4: like the Bamboo Boys. It exemplifies fun and laughter and joy.

782
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,360
Speaker 4: They should be the baby Yeah, the Bay Bros.

783
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 3: You know.

784
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, there is a problem with the death angle, at

785
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 1: least I think there's a problem. It's like, this is

786
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: a good lineup, don't get me wrong, and Jordan Poole

787
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 1: is playing at an unbelievable level, but we're talking about

788
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 1: a light up. They had Kevin Durant in it. Now

789
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 1: that that's a death line up when he's involved with

790
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:51,280
Speaker 1: these guys. It's still a little step down. No offense

791
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 1: to Pool and Wigans and stuff like that. It's it's

792
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 1: I don't you know, it's it's on the verge of death,

793
00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: I guess.

794
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 4: But imagine you get Wigans at and Kevin Durant bucking

795
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 4: to that day.

796
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 3: Wow.

797
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 1: Well, I guess the original one started with Harrison Barnes.

798
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 1: That was, but then it got yeah, then it turned

799
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,959
Speaker 1: into mega death right, and that what they were knowing. Man.

800
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,840
Speaker 1: All right, well, good luck to the to the Nuggets

801
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 1: fans out there. Hopefully they can take Game three. We're

802
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 1: gonna take our first break here though, only come back.

803
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 1: We'll talk about the Raptors getting their asses handed to

804
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: them by Dwell and Bead and the Sixers, and Marcus

805
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 1: Smart wins the first award and he got pranked, So

806
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 1: don't go anywhere. Hey, back with no dunks here in

807
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,439
Speaker 1: the yard. Thanks again, everybody joining us live right now

808
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 1: doing some big numbers here on a Tuesday hit that

809
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,720
Speaker 1: like button subscribe to no bunks, No bunks, no dunks.

810
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 1: We do this every single day. Lea have good news

811
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 1: and bad news. Bad news is your Raptors in five

812
00:37:54,400 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 1: yes prediction, it's officially dead, Yeah.

813
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 4: Can Ipe What if they appear? Can they get the

814
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 4: game over time?

815
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 1: Now there will be no devouring the Raptors, at least

816
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,359
Speaker 1: of the Sixers. Maybe the other way around. The good

817
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 1: news is I heard on the streets that a series

818
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 1: doesn't start until the home team loses. So there is that.

819
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 1: So Dwell and Bad scores thirty one to carry the

820
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 1: seventy six Ers to the two zero series lead on

821
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 1: the Raptors. What are you taking away from this one

822
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 1: last nightly?

823
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 4: Another very impressive performance ry Philadelphia. So far, so good

824
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 4: through the first two games, and this one was a

825
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,240
Speaker 4: very spicy one from the start, very physical. The Raptors

826
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 4: clearly wanted to come out and show themselves to be

827
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 4: physical in their defense of the seventy Sixers, and I

828
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 4: think Joel Embiid did a very smart job by you know,

829
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 4: absorbing that contact, going inside and getting a lot of

830
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 4: foul calls. He got to the free throw line twelve

831
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 4: times in the first quarter. Now, some Raptors fans that saying, ah,

832
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 4: you know, the Raptors are going up against eight players tonight.

833
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 4: I don't think that was the case. I think Embiid's

834
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 4: approach was very smart in that he put pressure on

835
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 4: the defense, he put pressure on the referees to make

836
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,800
Speaker 4: the call, and then he hit those free throws. Despite

837
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 4: all that, the Raptors led after one quarter, which was

838
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 4: kind of shocking really because it felt like the Raptors

839
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 4: didn't have anything. They were in foul trouble, they're obviously shorthanded,

840
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 4: but they did enough to get that lead. But in

841
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 4: the second quarter it really fell apart for them, in

842
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:15,919
Speaker 4: particular when Joel Embiid sat out. That was the key

843
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 4: here for the Raptors in this series, is like, when

844
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 4: Joel Embiid sits, you've got to win those minutes, and

845
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 4: that did not happen in this game. He sat and

846
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 4: they lost those minutes by twelve points, which was really

847
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 4: really tough for the Raptors because they seemed to struggle

848
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 4: to get anything going really offensively, any sort of groove,

849
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 4: and they have a chance there. But when Joel Embiid sit,

850
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,720
Speaker 4: Tyris Maxi was really good, Danny Green's hitting three, Tobias

851
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 4: Harris has been really good, and James Harden, I mean,

852
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 4: this is the interesting thing. If you look at his

853
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 4: box score from this game, he took nine shots, went

854
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,720
Speaker 4: one for four from Downtown, fourteen points and six assists.

855
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:49,720
Speaker 4: You'ld think, well, he must have had a bad game.

856
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 4: But I think James Harden had a very smart game.

857
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 4: I thought he played well, he passed the ball, he

858
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:55,839
Speaker 4: wasn't in a rush. He didn't need to do all

859
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 4: that much because these other guys I mentioned Maxie and

860
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 4: Harris and Danny Green knocking down shots, and if the

861
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 4: Sixers are getting that sort of production out of those

862
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 4: other guys, it just takes so much pressure off guys

863
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 4: like Harden to have to go out there and try

864
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 4: to get those thirty thirty five points to night. So

865
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 4: everything right now for Philadelphia is really going in their favor.

866
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,280
Speaker 4: Because I mentioned the Raptors. No Scottie Barnes in this one.

867
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 4: Not sure yet of his status in Game three. Gary

868
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 4: Trent did come out and play last night with a

869
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 4: non COVID illness, but he only played ten minutes and

870
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 4: he was shouldn't have. He shouldn't have. He didn't give

871
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 4: them anything. And then fattyus Young. I look, Fatty's Young

872
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 4: is an old guy. You don't expect tons from him,

873
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 4: but he's got the bum thumb injury there. He didn't

874
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 4: really give him all that much, and I just thought Pascal,

875
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 4: Fred and Og the last sort of three guys they

876
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 4: had tried, tried to be competitive. But I thought Philadelphia's

877
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 4: defense on them was pretty good for the most part.

878
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 4: You know, they didn't seem to get a ton of

879
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 4: open looks. Fred hit a couple of bombs, but it

880
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:52,840
Speaker 4: wasn't like the defense wasn't there. They just weren't able

881
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 4: to get any sort of rhythm. Now, the Raptors did

882
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 4: make a bit of a fake comeback there, or they

883
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:58,919
Speaker 4: went on a twenty to two run late, and there

884
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 4: was a few Sixers fans noticed starting to put Doc

885
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 4: Rivers under a little bit of pressure, you know, because

886
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 4: if they've blown that what was once a twenty nine

887
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 4: point lead, I think the Sixers fans would have been

888
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 4: exceptionally upset this morning, because again the Raptors being shorthanded

889
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 4: and the six is seemingly incomplete control of this one.

890
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 4: But Philadelphia closes it out and takes a very impressive

891
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 4: two zero lead in this series heading back to Toronto,

892
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 4: and be interesting to see now how the Raptors answer

893
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 4: in Game three, because they tried the physical stuff on

894
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 4: Embiid and it worked to a degree. Like I say,

895
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:32,919
Speaker 4: they led, but Joel Embiid seemed to be like, Okay,

896
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 4: let's play that way.

897
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 1: I want to do that.

898
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 4: And I like the fact that he did get you know,

899
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 4: he sort of was like, Okay, let's get physical, let's

900
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 4: make this a rough playoff game. But ultimately worked in

901
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 4: Philadelphia's favorite because Embiid has shown without totally dominating, that

902
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 4: he is the best player in this series.

903
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 1: Tas, what do you think you're a Raptors fan? Problems

904
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 1: with the whistle, problems with the way they're officiating, dwell Embiid?

905
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 1: Or are Raptors fans going overboard here with their complaining about,

906
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 1: oh it's eight on five?

907
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:07,360
Speaker 3: What do you think the Raptors stunk? Forget about the

908
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,879
Speaker 3: free throws. Yeah, Joel and Bid went to the free

909
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 3: throw line twelve times in the first quarter. But it

910
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 3: was a one point game after the first quarter. So

911
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,839
Speaker 3: Joel Embiid sits down, and those are the minutes that

912
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 3: the Raptors five should be just as good as the

913
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 3: Sixers five. And it was weak. They got destroyed the

914
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 3: first six minutes of the second quarter, and they didn't

915
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,959
Speaker 3: have the legs the depth to come back. The fight

916
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:36,240
Speaker 3: was gone. They got beat by not embiid, not inbiid.

917
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 3: He sat, it was hardened, Shake Milton, Danny Green, Tobias Harrison,

918
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 3: Paul Reid, and then you Tyrese Maxie came in for

919
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,720
Speaker 3: a little bit and that's when they got down double digits.

920
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 3: And listen, a part of it is Scottie Barnes isn't playing.

921
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 3: So Fred van Vliet played like the first thirty plus

922
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 3: minutes of this game, and he obviously got sloppy and

923
00:42:55,560 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 3: tired in that second quarter. For sure, Gary Trent, he

924
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 3: was out there, but he wasn't great. I think he

925
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 3: needed to play because they just didn't have any depth.

926
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,800
Speaker 3: And yeah, Thadeus Young thumb injury, bum injury, whatever the

927
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 3: hell he had, he was very He was disappointing those

928
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 3: first six minutes. You lost to Danny Green and Shake

929
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 3: Milton and Toby stars and they yeah, and they they

930
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 3: died a slow death throughout this game. But it was

931
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,240
Speaker 3: then that this game was absolutely over. You know, Fred

932
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 3: just went from a fourteen point first quarter to really

933
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 3: slumping because you know, he's got the knee injury and

934
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 3: they don't have depth right now, and I think some

935
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 3: has to be put on Pascal Siakam for not being

936
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 3: an All NBA player these first two games. But I

937
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 3: mean that's the offensive end. I think really the defensive

938
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 3: end is where they lost this game. And embat had

939
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 3: two more free throws the rest of the way. Like, yeah,

940
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:51,799
Speaker 3: you can look at the final numbers and say, well,

941
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 3: they went to the free throw line thirty times and

942
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 3: that hurts us. But what hurts us is allowing the

943
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 3: role players of the seventy six ers to beat us

944
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 3: by double digits. Joel Embiid had the lowest plus minus

945
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 3: of any starter out there. They lost the minutes where yeah,

946
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,240
Speaker 3: Fatty is Young allowed Danny Green to grab an offensive

947
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 3: rebound because he wasn't working hard enough, and they just

948
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,360
Speaker 3: weren't working hard enough those first six minutes. So yeah, no,

949
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 3: Scottie Barnes obviously was a factor. Malchi Flanne just isn't

950
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 3: physical enough for the postseason. They're they're lacking guys with

951
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 3: enough effort. So I don't know if you're complaining about

952
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 3: the official skeets, but it ain't the Zebras. For me,

953
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,359
Speaker 3: it was not. It was it was the embiadless minutes.

954
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 1: The Sixers have won by an average of like seventeen

955
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,320
Speaker 1: and a half points these two games. That doesn't happen

956
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 1: just because of the officiating, because they've been simply outclassed

957
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 1: by a definitely more talented Sixers team. Right now, Embiid,

958
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 1: I'm with you, leee. He was relishing all this talk

959
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 1: about how they're going to play them and the physical content,

960
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 1: and then maybe Embiid of old Settles starts jacking up threes,

961
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,320
Speaker 1: but not in't him right now He's like, oh, sure,

962
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 1: give me the ball, let them swarm me. And he

963
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 1: got fouled on a lot of these plays. I don't

964
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 1: know if Raptors fans want to hat he's getting killed.

965
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 1: There's maybe one.

966
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 6: There's maybe guys.

967
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 1: I think the ones that piss nurse off are the

968
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 1: ones wear Embiid barrels over guys, right, and he's like, well,

969
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 1: what do you want us to do? And this three

970
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 1: hundred pound dude is just like trucking us. That's when

971
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 1: he should that's what he should be upset about, and

972
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 1: that's fair. But all these other ones, I'm with you, Yeah, slapping, hacking,

973
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:26,720
Speaker 1: he's a giant. I mean, how are they possibly Raptors

974
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:29,919
Speaker 1: fans surprised that they're getting beat in the free throw

975
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 1: department against a team with hardened and embad on it.

976
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 1: I mean, like, do you not know what they do?

977
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:36,839
Speaker 1: This is what they do. So yeah, you just got

978
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 1: to play better all around. I can't even think of

979
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 1: a sixer player lead that's played all that poorly in

980
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 1: this series. Is the other thing, you know, MAXI another

981
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,919
Speaker 1: massive game. You know twenty three nine and eight huge

982
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 1: shots stopped the bleeding when the Raptors made like that

983
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 1: little comeback cut it to eleven, hit that big transition

984
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 1: three that was sort of game Harris continuing to play. Well,

985
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:57,760
Speaker 1: you know, the guy's coming off the bench in spot minutes.

986
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 1: They're playing five. Nobody's like sinking them. Who's playing bad

987
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 1: on the sixers where there's a lot of guys' not

988
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 1: living up so they're under the broken for the Raptors, Well.

989
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:07,359
Speaker 4: He's not playing bad, but matisse Tible's largely been not

990
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 4: playing but that's by design. Rivers Doc Rivers is like,

991
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 4: we're not going to have him in Toronto, so let's

992
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 4: not sort of miss him. He's been coming off the bench.

993
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 4: But also they don't really need him out there because

994
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 4: offensively he can't shoot. He's not a good shooter, and defensively,

995
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:23,839
Speaker 4: he's not needed to sort of lock down a guy

996
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:26,840
Speaker 4: because everyone else is doing that job. But tyres Maxi,

997
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 4: Fuck me, he is quick. When he decides to go inside,

998
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 4: it's just is a blur. I know, you know, he's

999
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 4: got the young legs there, and we've seen guys in

1000
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 4: the part, you know, Westbrook and John Wall and Rose

1001
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:39,839
Speaker 4: and those guys are quick. But joh my god, when

1002
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 4: Maxi decides to sort of get that first step, he

1003
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,319
Speaker 4: is in the paint before you've even had a chance

1004
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 4: to know that he's made that move. It's incredible. But

1005
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 4: he's a good finisher around the rim. I like his

1006
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 4: composure that he's able to sort of lay the ball

1007
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 4: in or you know, get a good shot off there.

1008
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:55,839
Speaker 4: And he's also hitting the threes. He almost had a

1009
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 4: triple double there last night, which is just incredible. So yeah,

1010
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 4: things are really really well for Philadelphia right now. I

1011
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 4: will say this though, I mean, they're two zero up

1012
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 4: and they're likely to win the series from his statistically,

1013
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 4: I know they likely to do it, but you know,

1014
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 4: in the past we've seen you know, the Raptors were

1015
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 4: down two zero against Milwaukee when they came back and

1016
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:15,399
Speaker 4: won the championship, and they looked completely outclass and they

1017
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 4: didn't have they had Kawi Land. They obviously don't have

1018
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 4: him now. But even last year, you know, like the

1019
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,840
Speaker 4: remember the Jazz were up two to zero on the Clippers.

1020
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,240
Speaker 4: You know, it's happened in the past. The Warriors, for example,

1021
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 4: in the twenty sixteen finals, destroyed the Cavs in the

1022
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,320
Speaker 4: first two games and ended up losing the series. So

1023
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 4: things can change. And the Raptors obviously need all their

1024
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 4: healthy bodies, but they just need as well to play

1025
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,359
Speaker 4: are more locked in at least sort of thirty six

1026
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 4: to forty minutes because they seem to be okay. Well,

1027
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 4: they weren't okay in the game won, but last night

1028
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 4: they were good for at least the first quarter and

1029
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 4: then they just weren't able to keep up the intensity.

1030
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 4: So things can change. I think your point with Nick

1031
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 4: Nurse there as I see it more as just like

1032
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 4: the coaches like trying to sort of, you know, say

1033
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 4: to his guys, hey, I got your back. Even if

1034
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 4: he believes they are the right fows, he's got to

1035
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 4: sort of play the referees a little bit, try to

1036
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 4: get in Joel and beats. I think that's just the

1037
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 4: way it is a bit of gamesmanship there for Nick Nurse,

1038
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 4: because you know you saw Pascal Siak Can basically jump

1039
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 4: on Joel Embiid at the in the first quarter there.

1040
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 4: I think it was only I don't think you got

1041
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 4: a flagrant for that. I think you just got a.

1042
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:15,720
Speaker 1: Common There was a bit of slippage there. Yeah, but

1043
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 1: but that's the thing.

1044
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 4: They're like, Okay, the only way to maybe affect Embiid

1045
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 4: is to have him know that if he comes in

1046
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:22,839
Speaker 4: the pain, he's gonna get hit. And the Bead's like fine,

1047
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:24,879
Speaker 4: I'll play that game as well. So this is good.

1048
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 4: I mean, this is a good playoff physical series. This

1049
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 4: is what we want. Raptors just have to be a

1050
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 4: lot better for for more than just twelve minutes.

1051
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's got to be frustrating here for Nurse and

1052
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 1: the Raptors, though. It's a it's a bit of a pick.

1053
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 1: You're poison right with this team right now. It's like,

1054
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 1: if you pay too much attention to Embiid, he's making

1055
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 1: the right play and these other guys are beating the Raps.

1056
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 1: Be it MAXI be it Harris, you know, you know

1057
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:50,360
Speaker 1: throw hardened in there, of course you focus more on

1058
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 1: those guys and then it's just embiid more room to

1059
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 1: operate and go to work and get to the line

1060
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 1: and score inside it it's it's a it's a bit

1061
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 1: of like which one you're gonna do? Do not have

1062
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:04,240
Speaker 1: a Draymond Green to like sort of neutralize an MVP

1063
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 1: like guy in Embad. It's going to take a lot

1064
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 1: of guys and you almost have to pray these other

1065
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 1: guys tasks like a Maxie in Toronto just suddenly goes

1066
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 1: ice cold. But that it's you know, it's not even

1067
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 1: just a three point shooting. Like Lee said, he's attacking

1068
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:18,840
Speaker 1: and I think he's almost single handedly beating the Raptors

1069
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 1: in fast break points in this series. So that's the

1070
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 1: other thing, Like they're getting stops and they're gone. So yeah,

1071
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 1: I don't know where I don't I guess what I'm

1072
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 1: getting as I don't know where Nurse and the Raps

1073
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:31,839
Speaker 1: go from here outside of hopefully the fans obviously going

1074
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 1: nuts for Game three. The I'm not a playoff game

1075
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:37,320
Speaker 1: there in a long time. Maybe that you know, encourages

1076
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:40,760
Speaker 1: a whistle or two in their favor and Embiid picks

1077
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 1: up an offensive foul or two early, but then they

1078
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 1: got to win those minutes when he goes to the bench,

1079
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:47,280
Speaker 1: because they're not even really doing that in this series,

1080
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 1: which we thought would be the difference maker.

1081
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they're getting spanked in those minutes. Again, it's

1082
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:56,880
Speaker 3: a one point game after the first quarter, when you're

1083
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:59,280
Speaker 3: happy that, yeah Joan be went the line twelve times,

1084
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 3: but we're scoring. And yeah, the second quarter they got

1085
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:05,799
Speaker 3: smashed because, yeah, the Raps just aren't everywhere defensively like

1086
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 3: they used to be there. You know, they are hanging

1087
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:09,359
Speaker 3: out on em beat and up being able to get

1088
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 3: out to the shooters a bit, not getting back in

1089
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 3: transition Tyres Max. Yeah, killing them there. Yeah, it's an

1090
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 3: effort thing, for sure. I don't think the fans are

1091
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 3: really gonna gonna help it. Maybe maybe that the defense

1092
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 3: picks up a little bit.

1093
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it they need. They can't. They're not gonna

1094
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 1: the Raptors are not going to score one hundred and

1095
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 1: twenty points to win these games. It's got to be

1096
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 1: it's gotta be a lot uglier. It's got to be

1097
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 1: in high nineties at the very least. Is their best

1098
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 1: chance to win these games, they need stops for sure,

1099
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 1: and that's when they got back into the game. They

1100
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 1: had eight consecutive stops. You know, did the Sixers take

1101
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 1: their foot off the gas a little, sure, but they

1102
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 1: strung together some stops and made it that eleven point

1103
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 1: game when they made the fourth quarter run.

1104
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:50,239
Speaker 3: But yeah, that's why, that's why it's surprising. That's why

1105
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:52,760
Speaker 3: it's surprising. And the first game they they shot nearly

1106
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 3: fifty and forty from the floor. But if they're not

1107
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 3: getting back in transition, then everyone's gonna beat them. You know.

1108
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 3: I think Harden's shooting like thirty five percent and totally

1109
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 3: getting a pass from people because he's passing the ball

1110
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:10,880
Speaker 3: because everybody else is just destroying Toronto. Was just the

1111
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 3: role players, which is yeah, pretty damn unexpected. And it's

1112
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 3: so unexpected, I'm sure you're not even going home for

1113
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 3: a game, Skeets when it when it looks this bad.

1114
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 1: No, I have not, haven't fired up the flights, not

1115
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 1: looking into it right now. I did my work last night.

1116
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 1: I stood, I was standing and it was great for

1117
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 1: the first quarter of there, when Van Vliet was going off,

1118
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 1: it was it was fantastic, But then that game got

1119
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:39,360
Speaker 1: out of control, not looking good for the Raps chances,

1120
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 1: and look, three of us had the wraps. Tray had

1121
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 1: the Sixers wraps in five Lee's is done. That's our

1122
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 1: first prediction officially off the boardly no devouring.

1123
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, hey, you know, maybe the Sixers fans can

1124
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 4: thank me for it. You know, maybe uh I provided

1125
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 4: them with bolton board material, you know, because I'm sure,

1126
00:51:57,560 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 4: I'm sure Joel and BID's listening to the show and

1127
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 4: he's like, fuck, yeah, you know, so it's possible.

1128
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:06,319
Speaker 1: Tray any other notes on game two last night between

1129
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:08,240
Speaker 1: Philly and Toronto or moving forward in this series.

1130
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:11,399
Speaker 5: I think Maxi's going to continue to have a really

1131
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:13,279
Speaker 5: big series because there does not seem to be an

1132
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:16,279
Speaker 5: answer for the one two pick and roll. Like, you're right,

1133
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 5: tass Harden is maybe having the most underwhelming series for

1134
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:22,400
Speaker 5: the Sixers shooting thirty five percent, but the assister there

1135
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 5: and Maxy. For as fast as he is with his legs,

1136
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 5: he's also very fast between the years. As soon as

1137
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 5: he sees the lane on that one too, it's like

1138
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:31,400
Speaker 5: either I'm popping a three or I'm going straight to

1139
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:33,880
Speaker 5: the hoop. Obviously not a ton of big guys at

1140
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 5: the rim for the Raptor, so I'm not exactly sure

1141
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:38,879
Speaker 5: how they go about addressing that there's only one Fred

1142
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 5: van Vliet. He can't guard everybody. He can't guard both

1143
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 5: sides of that pick and roll, so that's really tough,

1144
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:47,880
Speaker 5: especially with Gary Trent having the poops. So I imagine

1145
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:50,400
Speaker 5: that Maxi's going to continue to succeed. Tobias Harris has

1146
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:53,400
Speaker 5: found his role absolutely perfectly, and that's why you know,

1147
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:56,439
Speaker 5: when Maxi and Tobias Harris are the first and third

1148
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 5: leading scorers on the Sixers, they're a tough to team

1149
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:01,359
Speaker 5: to beat. You know, Embid's going to give you thirty

1150
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:03,799
Speaker 5: points even if he's not playing an incredible series. I

1151
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 5: think he's been good but not great. He can go

1152
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:09,319
Speaker 5: to another level. Maybe the change of scenery helps, but

1153
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 5: at this point, the Raptors played nine guys last night.

1154
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 5: Three of them did absolutely nothing, so you're left with

1155
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 5: six and they've been playing a short rotation for the

1156
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 5: entire year, so it's getting tougher and tougher and there

1157
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:23,359
Speaker 5: are less and less solutions here. Maybe Ken Birch needs

1158
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 5: to start in the starting lineup and just foul embiid

1159
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 5: the entire time. Make him call all six on him.

1160
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 5: Just a little bit of size maybe helps. I mean,

1161
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 5: Achua didn't do much last night. He's good in transition,

1162
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:35,440
Speaker 5: but that hasn't been there for the Raptors at this point.

1163
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 5: They got to figure out how to get stops because

1164
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 5: then they can get in transition as well, which certainly

1165
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:40,400
Speaker 5: helps their offense.

1166
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 6: But getting stops has been the hard part so far.

1167
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:45,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess the one good thing for the Raps

1168
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 1: in game two is they won the turnover battle fourteen

1169
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:51,840
Speaker 1: to nine and they won the offensive rebound battle thirteen

1170
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 1: to seven. You know something that they got outclassed in

1171
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 1: game one by Philly, but not that it mattered on

1172
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 1: the final score. It's yeah, I'm not really sure what

1173
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:02,359
Speaker 1: the endwer is and you're lightly with table. We thought

1174
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 1: that might be huge in this series. Well, he's not

1175
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:05,879
Speaker 1: gonna be able to play in Toronto. He's played twenty

1176
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:08,719
Speaker 1: nine minutes. He's scoring points. He's like, yeah, he's been

1177
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:11,440
Speaker 1: like there and he's out different defense. I get that,

1178
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:13,360
Speaker 1: but yeah, where would you rank him right now? On

1179
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:15,360
Speaker 1: sixers playing in the series, it's like their eighth or

1180
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:16,720
Speaker 1: ninth most important.

1181
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 3: Player, right now. So, yeah, it's a good.

1182
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:20,240
Speaker 1: Sign when you can't play in these games in Toronto,

1183
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:24,800
Speaker 1: what game three? You win Game three, and then suddenly

1184
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 1: it's like you tuck yourself into this being a series

1185
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 1: again in any of them when you're down to when

1186
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 1: you go home.

1187
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:31,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, and remember I think, you know, against the Bucks

1188
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:34,279
Speaker 4: it was either overtime or double overtime. Remember where the

1189
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 4: Raptors you know, pulled that one out and then went

1190
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 4: on to win the series. So it just it just

1191
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 4: sort of shows how quickly, you know, things can change,

1192
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 4: you know in a series. You know, especially if the

1193
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 4: if the Raptors for example, or the the Sixers, you know,

1194
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 4: maybe get a little bit like all right, we've got

1195
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 4: this series. Now we can we can wrap this up

1196
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:56,919
Speaker 4: so that things can happen like that. But it's hard

1197
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:58,240
Speaker 4: to sort of see it right now.

1198
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think one of the tiny thing the Reps

1199
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:04,760
Speaker 3: can do is stop paying as much attention to James Harden.

1200
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 3: I think they're they're treating him, you know, beyond Embiid.

1201
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:10,840
Speaker 3: You know, they're they're obviously focusing on Embiid and focusing

1202
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 3: on Harden. And then it's the third guy in Maxie

1203
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 3: that's really going off, and we're seeing in all these

1204
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:16,919
Speaker 3: series the X factor of the third guy, the Jordan Poole,

1205
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 3: really destroying teams. That one two pick and roll was

1206
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:25,239
Speaker 3: talked about on The Athletic that James Harden said to hey, Doc,

1207
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 3: let's do let's do a little one two pick and roll.

1208
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 3: Apparently it was his suggestion, And yeah, it's hurting, and

1209
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:33,800
Speaker 3: I think paying attention to the one in this situation,

1210
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 3: the Harden in this situation is kind of hurting. I

1211
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 3: think with one on one with him while paying more

1212
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 3: attention to Maxie and those pick and rolls can help

1213
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:45,799
Speaker 3: because yeah, he's the driver right now obviously, but then

1214
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 3: Harden can go off as well. So I mean, it's

1215
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:51,400
Speaker 3: so what the NBA treatment.

1216
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 1: With live with hardened step back threes and hope he's

1217
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:55,880
Speaker 1: do for two for eleven type.

1218
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:58,880
Speaker 4: Night certainly not penetrating, you know, with that speed and

1219
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 4: explosion as he settled. But it was a big night

1220
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:04,400
Speaker 4: of course for Tyres and for kleeber So who was

1221
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 4: your Maxie of the night?

1222
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 1: They guys, Oh wow, very nice inside joke fairly from

1223
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 1: our former makeup arcust at the starters at the ATV. Well,

1224
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 1: I think, okay, Lee. What about this Maxi for the

1225
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:23,839
Speaker 1: Sixers incredible in the first two games. Maxi kleeber eight

1226
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 1: threes last night. Are you expecting a big game from

1227
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 1: Max Struice tonight.

1228
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 4: Oh? I hope not. I hope not for the Hawkies.

1229
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 4: The Hawks need something as well themselves. That's gonna be tough.

1230
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 4: But yeah, the big three Maxes, I mean they're all

1231
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:39,720
Speaker 4: they're all different, the Max, Maxie and the Maxie.

1232
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 1: We need, uh test, We need Drake to get involved

1233
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 1: here too, with this series going to Toronto?

1234
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 4: What do you mean, Skeets.

1235
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 1: Take James Harden note to the fine establishments in Toronto

1236
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 1: getting beat out there, partying in Toronto. Things are starting

1237
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:56,719
Speaker 1: to open up out there. I think it did snow though.

1238
00:56:56,880 --> 00:57:00,120
Speaker 1: Poor people in Classic Park last night. My god, Oh

1239
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:04,759
Speaker 1: imagine standing in the snow in mid April to watch

1240
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 1: the Raptors get their asses handed them. But uh, Sixers,

1241
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 1: those Troopers, we love you up there, but that's tough. Yeah,

1242
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 1: Drake's got to do his part to ask got a

1243
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:15,319
Speaker 1: party with the Sixer boys, get him all hung over

1244
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 1: there for when's that next game? Wednesday night?

1245
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 3: Wednesday night, the NBA TV game. Even the Bulls Bucks

1246
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 3: got national coverage, you know, the non NBA TV game

1247
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 3: on Wednesday, because the Raps Sixers looks bad. Hey, I'm

1248
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 3: down for I'm down for Drake. He'll be there early.

1249
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 3: He's putting the work. End.

1250
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 5: Okay, we got some Danny Green dunk last night. Wild

1251
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 5: Man and Danny Green throw down like that. Does he

1252
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 5: have any dunks yet this season?

1253
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 4: I forgot we had one? He had one? Yeah, someone

1254
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 4: I saw someone else asked me about that. It was

1255
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 4: back in November. I think against the Orlandos he doubled

1256
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 4: his dunk total.

1257
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:54,440
Speaker 6: For there you go.

1258
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 1: He's been great too, obviously the former Raptor. Yeah, uh,

1259
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 1: he was like tat a big part of that fifteen

1260
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 1: to four six Ers run when Emid went to the bench.

1261
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 1: I think he splashed a couple threes in that little

1262
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 1: run there. Yeah, when Danny Green dunks, you know the

1263
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 1: game is officially over and that you can move on

1264
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:14,680
Speaker 1: to Game three. So we'll see any any thoughts task

1265
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 1: on the nurse embid exchange. I saw you tweeting about

1266
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 1: it and reading lips. Anything to add to that that

1267
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:24,560
Speaker 1: clip that's been making its way around.

1268
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 3: I don't know. I guess you know. I didn't see

1269
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 3: before that. I guess Embiid approached nurse to say, hey,

1270
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 3: stop bitching about calls, like or did he just happen

1271
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 3: to be there and it came up, because that would

1272
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 3: be weird if Embiid went over while they're spanking the

1273
00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 3: wraps to say, hey, pipe down, man, I mean nurse,

1274
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:52,080
Speaker 3: he's desperate. He's desperate for sure. He challenge. He made

1275
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 3: a challenge four minutes left in the second quarter. That's

1276
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 3: when he used his challenge on that Tobias Hairs driving

1277
00:58:57,160 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 3: into Gary Trent Junior. It was an eleven point game,

1278
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:03,080
Speaker 3: and he guess he didn't want to let it get

1279
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:06,160
Speaker 3: away at that point. He just it was in Phillies

1280
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 3: Barn and maybe, yeah, let's be optimistic. Maybe it's a

1281
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 3: different at home. Maybe maybe the nineteen eight hundred Faithful,

1282
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 3: you know, dredge in there after a snowstorm in April

1283
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:20,440
Speaker 3: and they're pess so they get behind this team and

1284
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 3: they get it dub just one. It just takes one.

1285
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 1: Your your season's on the line. It's game three. You

1286
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:27,800
Speaker 1: have to win. It's a wrap if you're down three.

1287
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 1: Everybody knows that. So we'll see. I got some news here.

1288
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:33,600
Speaker 1: We got a got an award, hands it out, just

1289
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 1: like that, we got the finalist and then they're like,

1290
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 1: all right, let's give one away Marcus Smart. Congratulations to him.

1291
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:42,600
Speaker 1: He is the twenty twenty one twenty two Defensive Player

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Speaker 1: of the Year. As everyone knows by now. Smart becomes

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00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 1: the first guard to earn the honor since Gary Payton

1294
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:53,600
Speaker 1: in the ninety five ninety six season. GP helping give

1295
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 1: Smart the award there yesterday, pranking them classic GENPI stuff.

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00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 1: Smart received two hundred and fifty seven points overall thirty

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Speaker 1: seven first place votes from a global panel of one

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01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 1: hundred sports raiders and broadcasters. Mikail Bridges finished in second

1299
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 1: place two hundred and two points twenty two first place votes,

1300
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 1: so a lot going to him as well. Rudy Gobert

1301
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 1: finished third with one hundred and thirty six points twelve

1302
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 1: first place votes. Were showing you the voting results here

1303
01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 1: on the YouTube machine. Bam actually getting more first place

1304
01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 1: votes than Rudy. Yeah, so Michael Smart getting this, lee,

1305
01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 1: what do you think?

1306
01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, well deserved. I think all of those guys up

1307
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:35,560
Speaker 4: the top had a very very strong case, you know.

1308
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:38,000
Speaker 4: I think Smart is a great defender. Mikale Bridges has

1309
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:40,480
Speaker 4: been a brilliant defender there for Phoenix. He plays every

1310
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:43,120
Speaker 4: single game. Rudy's there just because of the fact that

1311
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:45,680
Speaker 4: he's a three time winner of this Bam, he's a

1312
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:47,440
Speaker 4: great defender as well. Now Bam was saying it was

1313
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:49,640
Speaker 4: disrespectful he played fifty six games. I mean, you can't

1314
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:51,400
Speaker 4: miss a third of the season and still expect to

1315
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:54,480
Speaker 4: win an award when there's so many other super strong candidates.

1316
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:56,720
Speaker 4: My pick, Jaron Jackson came in just after that, and

1317
01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 4: I thought he also had a very strong case. It's

1318
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:01,320
Speaker 4: funny that Yannis for me, who has won this award

1319
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:03,960
Speaker 4: in the past. I mean, I think again, he's just

1320
01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 4: taken for granted how good he is defensively. People are

1321
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:08,560
Speaker 4: just like, we know he's great, So I think that

1322
01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:11,080
Speaker 4: does count against him. These awards are never perfect, they're

1323
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:13,720
Speaker 4: never scientific. It's a lot about sort of narrative and

1324
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:15,880
Speaker 4: fear and hey, maybe we just give it to this

1325
01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:17,960
Speaker 4: guy because he's deserving of it, And I think that

1326
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:20,640
Speaker 4: does help Marcus Smart's case. I know that some people

1327
01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:22,960
Speaker 4: were talking about Smart maybe not even the best defender

1328
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 4: on the Celtics because they feel that it's such a

1329
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 4: great defensive unit and Jason Tatum. Some say he's better.

1330
01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:30,400
Speaker 4: So there was a lot of debate going around there

1331
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:32,640
Speaker 4: last night. Some people just didn't think Smart was worthy

1332
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:34,320
Speaker 4: of an honor of Defensive Player of the Year. I

1333
01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 4: think he is. I think he's an incredible, effective, active defender.

1334
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:40,240
Speaker 4: He does get into the lane a lot and takes

1335
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:42,080
Speaker 4: a lot of charges and throws his body on the line.

1336
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:44,720
Speaker 4: Sometimes he embellishers. We know that most players do at

1337
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:47,479
Speaker 4: some point. But I have no problem with Marcus Smart winning.

1338
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:49,840
Speaker 4: I think he's a great defender worthy of this, and

1339
01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:52,080
Speaker 4: this is something that really means a lot to him

1340
01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 4: because this is pretty much the only award he can win.

1341
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:56,000
Speaker 4: He's not going to win any of the other ones.

1342
01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 4: And he goes out there and he really does take

1343
01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:01,960
Speaker 4: pride in how he defends anybody, and I think he

1344
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:03,640
Speaker 4: does really good job. So well done to him.

1345
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:07,000
Speaker 1: Trey thoughts on Smart getting his first DPOY here, especially

1346
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 1: at the guard position.

1347
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:11,200
Speaker 5: I agree with mL here in the stream team this

1348
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 5: was more of a Boston Celtics award, to be quite honest,

1349
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 5: and I think that's right. You know, Robert Williams had

1350
01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:19,440
Speaker 5: a nice case for Defensive Player of the Year but

1351
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:22,360
Speaker 5: when he went down with injury, the campaign shifted to

1352
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:25,360
Speaker 5: Marcus Smart. Best defender on the best defensive team in

1353
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:27,720
Speaker 5: the league. That's a fair enough case to win Defensive

1354
01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 5: Player of the Year, even if he wasn't necessarily my

1355
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:33,880
Speaker 5: Defensive Player of the Year. The main thing I like

1356
01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:36,880
Speaker 5: is that this is going to open doors for more winners.

1357
01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:39,120
Speaker 5: It feels like it is a little strange to me

1358
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:42,280
Speaker 5: that we completely gloss over Kawhi Leonard winning back to

1359
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:45,240
Speaker 5: back Defensive Player of the years because he was technically

1360
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:48,360
Speaker 5: a forward, not a guard. He was guarding guys with

1361
01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:50,919
Speaker 5: the ball a lot. That being said, this is a

1362
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:55,400
Speaker 5: very switchy era of the NBA, so rewarding a guy

1363
01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:57,520
Speaker 5: in Marcus Smart who is a big time switch defender

1364
01:02:57,680 --> 01:03:01,280
Speaker 5: is pretty cool, I think so well, for better or worse,

1365
01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:06,280
Speaker 5: the Westbrook MVP changed the standards for MVP voting, and

1366
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:09,000
Speaker 5: I think this has the potential to change the standards

1367
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:10,600
Speaker 5: for Defensive Player of the Year voting as well.

1368
01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:15,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting. I guess what I would say to that,

1369
01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:17,040
Speaker 1: And I'm sure you agree. I know you agree, Trey.

1370
01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:20,880
Speaker 1: If Draymond Green plays how many more games would you

1371
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:22,120
Speaker 1: have had to have? I don't know what, he ended

1372
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:24,960
Speaker 1: up playing whatever it was he needs to play, like,

1373
01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:29,200
Speaker 1: let's say twenty more. He's running away with this award. Yeah,

1374
01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:32,160
Speaker 1: Like it's hands down. He is the best defensive player

1375
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:33,360
Speaker 1: in the league in my opinion, in a lot of

1376
01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:35,680
Speaker 1: people's opinion. But he didn't play enough games. And that's

1377
01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:37,320
Speaker 1: what you were saying with bam there lead though he's

1378
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:39,360
Speaker 1: a lot closer some people who say with fifty six

1379
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:42,120
Speaker 1: or whatever. But what do you think, Tess, were you

1380
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:44,800
Speaker 1: shocked at all that smart on this or it makes sense?

1381
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:47,640
Speaker 3: Yeah? I think, well, you know what Trey was saying

1382
01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:50,080
Speaker 3: about the you know, Westbrook won the MVP on a

1383
01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:53,960
Speaker 3: sixth place team in the Western Conference. I think what's

1384
01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:56,040
Speaker 3: different with the Defensive Player of the Year award is

1385
01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:59,280
Speaker 3: it still is going to go like traditionally with the

1386
01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:01,440
Speaker 3: MVP did to a team that's at the top of

1387
01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:03,880
Speaker 3: the standing. So Defensive Player of the Year is sort

1388
01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:06,600
Speaker 3: of the same. It is a team award, as he said,

1389
01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:10,760
Speaker 3: that's how it rolls, and so yeah, Draymond Green could

1390
01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:12,600
Speaker 3: have won it because he's up there as well. But

1391
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:15,880
Speaker 3: that's why this is Yeah, it's it's okay. I think

1392
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:19,280
Speaker 3: for it to go basically to the best defender on

1393
01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:22,760
Speaker 3: the best team. I think that's totally fine. It's really

1394
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:26,280
Speaker 3: really difficult, as much as metrics have advanced to really

1395
01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:31,840
Speaker 3: understand a guy's impact on his squad defensively, just give

1396
01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:33,640
Speaker 3: it to one of the top defenders on one of

1397
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:36,040
Speaker 3: the top teams. And that's why Rudy Gobert couldn't win it.

1398
01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:39,360
Speaker 3: His team dropped to tenth from third last year. Same

1399
01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:41,560
Speaker 3: with the Unitedst Gumpo. His team was middle of the

1400
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:45,960
Speaker 3: pack defensively, So it is cool that it's going towards

1401
01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:49,920
Speaker 3: a guard. He is one of the top couple players

1402
01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:53,280
Speaker 3: on his team defensively. It could be Robert Williams. It

1403
01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:56,120
Speaker 3: could be him. The same sort of thing happened with

1404
01:04:56,120 --> 01:05:00,439
Speaker 3: the Unitistoompo winning. It was it Brook Lopez's award to win.

1405
01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:02,880
Speaker 3: But yeah, I think when it comes down to it, yeah,

1406
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:05,480
Speaker 3: one of the better defenders on one of the better

1407
01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:10,320
Speaker 3: defensive teams is totally cool. That's the I think it

1408
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:12,920
Speaker 3: can stay sort of true to that, and it's not

1409
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:15,920
Speaker 3: It shouldn't go to a guy that's on the eighth

1410
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:18,360
Speaker 3: best defensive team. I think one thing that we learned

1411
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:21,760
Speaker 3: from this Gary Payton reveal, if you watch. It's in

1412
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:25,080
Speaker 3: the gym and all the Celtics are there and Gary

1413
01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:29,280
Speaker 3: Payton is there, and they put Marcus Smart's tweet about

1414
01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:33,040
Speaker 3: Gary Payton on an easel, you know, and we've done

1415
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:36,480
Speaker 3: production before. Nobody wants to read tweets. I think that's

1416
01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:38,280
Speaker 3: what we learned. Gary Payton went up to it, and

1417
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:41,360
Speaker 3: the tweet is somewhere this is from Marcus Smart. Somewhere

1418
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:43,800
Speaker 3: in the fine print for winning this defensive award is

1419
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:46,520
Speaker 3: rule forty seven point one A No NBA guards without

1420
01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:49,120
Speaker 3: the initials GP are allowed to win Defensive Player of

1421
01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:51,000
Speaker 3: the Year. Good tweet. But Gary Payton went up to

1422
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:53,800
Speaker 3: the tweet and it's like, you know, it's really cool

1423
01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:58,120
Speaker 3: that you, you know, you said stuff about me. And he's

1424
01:05:58,120 --> 01:06:00,000
Speaker 3: sort of reading the tweet and he's like, you screw it,

1425
01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:03,080
Speaker 3: I'm not reading this. He just starts talking about Marcus Smart.

1426
01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:07,120
Speaker 3: The tweet was just this thing on paper. Don't bother,

1427
01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:09,960
Speaker 3: just don't bother with trying to read tweets and all that.

1428
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:12,640
Speaker 3: But you know, GP was there. It's cool, and yeah,

1429
01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:17,080
Speaker 3: good points about guards and perimeter players winning it. You know, Yeah,

1430
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:24,800
Speaker 3: it's just it's just Gary Payton. It's like it's basketball lower. Now.

1431
01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:26,880
Speaker 3: You know, the last guard to win it was Gary Payton,

1432
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:29,320
Speaker 3: but Kawhi Leonard, Yeah, exactly, exactly, he's the guy on

1433
01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:32,520
Speaker 3: the perimeter stopping everybody. But yeah, we forget about that

1434
01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:35,160
Speaker 3: because we all just say Gary Payton was the last

1435
01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:35,840
Speaker 3: guard to win it.

1436
01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:40,480
Speaker 1: So well, yeah, it's for sure the whole positional thing.

1437
01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:44,080
Speaker 1: But six six and under it's like GP smart And

1438
01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:46,480
Speaker 1: then I think it's some of the early winners like

1439
01:06:46,520 --> 01:06:49,520
Speaker 1: Sidney Montcrief and Elvin Robertson like just sort of sneaking

1440
01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:49,960
Speaker 1: under there.

1441
01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:54,480
Speaker 4: So yeah, six seven, I guess, So, yeah, he doesn't count.

1442
01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:57,400
Speaker 1: But I mean I've said this before. It's definitely a

1443
01:06:57,440 --> 01:07:00,680
Speaker 1: team award. You guys already made that point, so delabor it.

1444
01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:03,720
Speaker 1: But I went and checked. It's like, over the last

1445
01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:07,280
Speaker 1: ten years, nobody's won this that hasn't had a top

1446
01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:10,240
Speaker 1: five defense, So you gotta be there. I mean, that

1447
01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:14,440
Speaker 1: seems to be at least the groundwork voters have laid.

1448
01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:17,200
Speaker 1: Smart wins it. Celtics had the number two defense only

1449
01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:20,000
Speaker 1: to the Warriors, and Draymond Green would have won it

1450
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:22,840
Speaker 1: if he played enough games. Gobert he won it last year.

1451
01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:25,000
Speaker 1: Jazz were a top four defense. Giannis won it the

1452
01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:27,720
Speaker 1: year before that, Bucks had the best defense, Rudy won

1453
01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:31,320
Speaker 1: the previous two campaigns before that, Jazz second best defense

1454
01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:34,920
Speaker 1: both times, Draymond's win in sixteen to seventeen Warrior's second

1455
01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:37,560
Speaker 1: best defense, Kawhi's back to back wins Spurs where the

1456
01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:40,600
Speaker 1: number one defense and the second ranked defense Joe Kiem

1457
01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:43,240
Speaker 1: Noah back in thirteen to fourteen Bowls number two defense

1458
01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:46,120
Speaker 1: in the league, Marcasol Grizzly's number two defense, and then

1459
01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:50,200
Speaker 1: Tyson Chandler in the shortened I believe twenty eleven twelve

1460
01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:53,560
Speaker 1: season Knicks were a top five defense when he won that.

1461
01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:55,640
Speaker 1: So over the like, what's that. That's ten or eleven

1462
01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:58,160
Speaker 1: years there. You gotta be top five, So I think

1463
01:07:58,200 --> 01:08:00,880
Speaker 1: that was I think that was a big knock against

1464
01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:04,880
Speaker 1: like Rudy winning his fourth Yeah, I guess in theory,

1465
01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:05,840
Speaker 1: but it's funny.

1466
01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:06,880
Speaker 6: It's funny, skeets.

1467
01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:11,120
Speaker 5: If you're talking about MVP voting, having bad teammates is good.

1468
01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:14,080
Speaker 5: If you're talking about Defensive Player the Year voting, having

1469
01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:17,800
Speaker 5: bad teammates is bad, Yeah, Srue. Rudy Gobert has a

1470
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:20,320
Speaker 5: bunch of poor defenders on his team. Ergo, his team

1471
01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:23,160
Speaker 5: defensive rating is very low. Yeah, but we saw with

1472
01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:26,080
Speaker 5: the with the Nuggets and Nikola k is gonna win

1473
01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:28,400
Speaker 5: another MVP and probably be swept out of the playoffs

1474
01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:31,439
Speaker 5: because his team is not up to snuff around him.

1475
01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:33,800
Speaker 6: Really makes you think, do you want good players on

1476
01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:36,280
Speaker 6: your team? Are bad players you want to win titles

1477
01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:36,839
Speaker 6: or awards?

1478
01:08:38,040 --> 01:08:40,479
Speaker 3: But Ruddy Rudy did win it last couple years with

1479
01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:45,400
Speaker 3: the same teammates. They're just better. But it's true about

1480
01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:49,480
Speaker 3: the defensive that, like Jokic, would rather have better teammates

1481
01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:54,080
Speaker 3: that takes away his numbers and and changes changes it. Uh,

1482
01:08:54,560 --> 01:08:57,080
Speaker 3: same for him, beat, I mean, same, same sort of deal.

1483
01:08:57,720 --> 01:08:59,320
Speaker 1: All right, well, let's take our final break. When we

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01:08:59,320 --> 01:09:01,400
Speaker 1: come back, Lee, you got the night. That's something good

1485
01:09:01,400 --> 01:09:02,479
Speaker 1: for us? Okay, great?

1486
01:09:02,760 --> 01:09:03,040
Speaker 3: Great?

1487
01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:07,680
Speaker 1: All right back here with no dunks. See somebody in

1488
01:09:07,720 --> 01:09:12,200
Speaker 1: the stream team Dominic must be new here. Isn't this

1489
01:09:12,360 --> 01:09:13,880
Speaker 1: supposed to be about basketball?

1490
01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:14,840
Speaker 4: No?

1491
01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:17,479
Speaker 1: No, no, this is a fashion podcast talking about custom

1492
01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:24,679
Speaker 1: suits and underwear that really supports your balls, Dominic. So yeah,

1493
01:09:24,680 --> 01:09:27,200
Speaker 1: I think you've got this mistaken for somebody else. Let's

1494
01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:28,439
Speaker 1: get to tweet of the night.

1495
01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:34,200
Speaker 3: Tweet O the night. Wow, Twitter.

1496
01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:40,320
Speaker 4: Clearly tweeted the night yes, and as Tas said, no

1497
01:09:40,360 --> 01:09:43,719
Speaker 4: one likes to read tweets, which makes tonight's Today's Tweet

1498
01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:45,880
Speaker 4: of the Week Tweet of the Night perfect because it's

1499
01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:49,439
Speaker 4: actually three tweets and they come in from one of

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01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:53,759
Speaker 4: my favorite playoff traditions. It's the artist Jack Perkins, also

1501
01:09:53,840 --> 01:09:56,439
Speaker 4: known as Pure Hoop. He's been on fire lately. After

1502
01:09:56,479 --> 01:09:59,479
Speaker 4: big games, he just somehow comes up with incredible artwork.

1503
01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:03,639
Speaker 4: This one after Sunday's game there in Boston, Jason Tatum

1504
01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:06,800
Speaker 4: laying in the old three leaf clover there against the

1505
01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:09,439
Speaker 4: Brooklyn nets. I thought that was beautiful. And then last

1506
01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:11,400
Speaker 4: night he was at his brilliant best again. I mean,

1507
01:10:11,439 --> 01:10:13,960
Speaker 4: look at this one. Jalen Brunson in the Dirk Jersey.

1508
01:10:14,240 --> 01:10:16,200
Speaker 4: Of course he had the forty one points. I thought

1509
01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:19,080
Speaker 4: that was fantastic. But then the best one. I mean,

1510
01:10:19,120 --> 01:10:22,840
Speaker 4: what a great graphic this is here, Jordan Pool there

1511
01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:26,080
Speaker 4: just strolling along to the Pool ready to go along

1512
01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:29,439
Speaker 4: and make his name with the Splash Brothers. So Jack

1513
01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:32,439
Speaker 4: is just an incredible artist, incredibly talented. How we can

1514
01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:34,600
Speaker 4: do this stuff so quickly after a game is just

1515
01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:37,439
Speaker 4: remarkable for me, and I love it. You follow him

1516
01:10:37,479 --> 01:10:40,400
Speaker 4: on Twitter, on Instagram, wherever you can follow him, because

1517
01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:44,280
Speaker 4: he puts out banger after banger after banger, and he's

1518
01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:45,840
Speaker 4: going to do this all playoffs on. I say he's

1519
01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:47,639
Speaker 4: going to do it. I mean, he hasn't told me he's.

1520
01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:48,040
Speaker 3: Going to do it.

1521
01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:51,800
Speaker 4: I just remember from in years going by he's done it.

1522
01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:54,080
Speaker 4: And to get two in one night like we did

1523
01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:57,400
Speaker 4: there yesterday was incredible stuff. So well done, Jack.

1524
01:10:58,680 --> 01:10:59,799
Speaker 1: Can you dry it allie?

1525
01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:03,719
Speaker 4: I drew Brand and Ingram one time at Summer League. Remember,

1526
01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:07,559
Speaker 4: I'm going to dig that out. You want to photo

1527
01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:11,000
Speaker 4: d honestly, don't, oh say I did it? Not a

1528
01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:13,920
Speaker 4: bad job. Actually, you're gonna have to give me a

1529
01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:14,280
Speaker 4: couple of.

1530
01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:16,000
Speaker 1: A bit we did on the show.

1531
01:11:16,240 --> 01:11:18,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, we did it on the show for something. I

1532
01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:21,080
Speaker 4: don't remember exactly what it was. Now, what year was

1533
01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:23,679
Speaker 4: Brand and Ingram are rookie? Actually twenty sixteen it would

1534
01:11:23,680 --> 01:11:23,840
Speaker 4: have been.

1535
01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:26,320
Speaker 1: Okay, maybe maybe have it ready for tomorrow's show.

1536
01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:27,880
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, I'll think it out.

1537
01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:30,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, but those are incredible pieces of our work there

1538
01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:33,040
Speaker 1: from Jack, So good call there. You got to come

1539
01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:35,000
Speaker 1: see the YouTube show for that one. If you're listening

1540
01:11:35,080 --> 01:11:38,160
Speaker 1: to the podcast or seek them out. What's his Twitter account.

1541
01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:40,200
Speaker 4: At pure hoop across all socials.

1542
01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:40,960
Speaker 1: There, there you go.

1543
01:11:41,479 --> 01:11:43,880
Speaker 5: I noticed what many in the stream team did as well.

1544
01:11:44,040 --> 01:11:48,200
Speaker 5: These calves on Jordan Poole, These look like lee Ellis calves. Yeah,

1545
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:52,880
Speaker 5: the leg model for these, that's why you're putting Jack.

1546
01:11:53,400 --> 01:12:00,759
Speaker 4: You think I'm playing the Homer legs. You think I'm like,

1547
01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:03,240
Speaker 4: I've got the brandon ingram. If you want it now,

1548
01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:06,040
Speaker 4: I mean, that's how you if you've got it, what.

1549
01:12:06,080 --> 01:12:07,080
Speaker 1: Do you mean you have it?

1550
01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:11,559
Speaker 3: You blow it up and put it on a wall.

1551
01:12:11,640 --> 01:12:12,679
Speaker 4: It's common, it's common.

1552
01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:13,200
Speaker 1: It's coming.

1553
01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:18,880
Speaker 5: He's uploading it into the stream yard. We're tapping you see.

1554
01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:20,920
Speaker 1: You don't say you have it until it's in the

1555
01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:22,519
Speaker 1: in the yard in my opinion.

1556
01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:26,679
Speaker 3: But yeah, we can finish with it, Skeets.

1557
01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:29,519
Speaker 1: But finish with it, okay, Well, let's okay, let's talk

1558
01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:34,200
Speaker 1: before you throw it up. Game two is tonight. Hawk's

1559
01:12:34,240 --> 01:12:37,720
Speaker 1: Heat seven thirty start on TNT Miami. Leads that one

1560
01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:39,719
Speaker 1: one oh, but like Ziller said, it sort of feels

1561
01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:41,960
Speaker 1: like three to zero after one game. After that dominant

1562
01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:46,439
Speaker 1: victory Wolves Grizzlies eight thirty on NBA TV Timberwolves taking

1563
01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:49,639
Speaker 1: game one. Very excited for Game two between those squads

1564
01:12:49,640 --> 01:12:52,839
Speaker 1: and then Pelicans Suns is the night cap ten o'clock

1565
01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:56,559
Speaker 1: on TNT, Phoenix taking Game one over New Orleans. So tasks,

1566
01:12:56,560 --> 01:12:59,559
Speaker 1: which series do you think most likely to be one

1567
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:02,559
Speaker 1: one come tomorrow morning when we're here in the yard again.

1568
01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:05,960
Speaker 3: Well, it's got to be Wolf's Grizzlies. It's gotta be.

1569
01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:10,400
Speaker 3: The way Memphis played this year at home. They're just

1570
01:13:10,439 --> 01:13:13,080
Speaker 3: not gonna let that happen again. They will not let

1571
01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:16,080
Speaker 3: what happened in Game one happen again. The way the

1572
01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:18,280
Speaker 3: Wolves came out and score twenty five in the first

1573
01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:21,960
Speaker 3: six minutes, and the way they couldn't turn over Minnesota

1574
01:13:22,200 --> 01:13:26,200
Speaker 3: at all in that second half. That's the Grizzlies Achilles

1575
01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:27,800
Speaker 3: heel is just not being able to score enough in

1576
01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:30,160
Speaker 3: the half court. Their little raptors ask it can get

1577
01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:33,240
Speaker 3: a little become a bit of a slog. But the

1578
01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:35,519
Speaker 3: Wolves only turned over three times in the second half.

1579
01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:39,320
Speaker 3: That was a big problem. Grizzlies will be ready for

1580
01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:43,240
Speaker 3: tip and get some transition buckets. Ain't that right, Tray.

1581
01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:44,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's exactly right.

1582
01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:47,760
Speaker 5: Minnesota scored one hundred and thirty points against the top

1583
01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:50,080
Speaker 5: five defense, and they had ten turnovers in one of

1584
01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:53,400
Speaker 5: those quarters, So you have to imagine the Grizzlies are

1585
01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:56,080
Speaker 5: going to be a little bit better in game two. Here,

1586
01:13:56,120 --> 01:13:57,840
Speaker 5: I like to see all the trash talk coming from

1587
01:13:57,920 --> 01:14:01,439
Speaker 5: Jamran's social media accounts. I think that definitely helps here

1588
01:14:01,439 --> 01:14:04,400
Speaker 5: in the playoffs. Still feels like a long series. But

1589
01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:09,120
Speaker 5: you know, the Grizzlies bigs looked really really slow.

1590
01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:11,840
Speaker 6: And stiff in Game one, and that was a problem.

1591
01:14:11,880 --> 01:14:13,599
Speaker 5: The defense was non existent, and this is a team

1592
01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:16,160
Speaker 5: that's built around their defense, so we shall see. I'm

1593
01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:18,800
Speaker 5: also very intrigued to see what's going to go on

1594
01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:21,240
Speaker 5: with the Hawks tonight. I wasn't upset with a game

1595
01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:23,360
Speaker 5: one loss for them. The deck was kind of stacked

1596
01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:26,400
Speaker 5: against them. They were on a short rest compared to

1597
01:14:26,520 --> 01:14:29,639
Speaker 5: the Miami Heat, obviously a major uptick in the quality

1598
01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:31,800
Speaker 5: of their opponent going from play in games to the

1599
01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:34,400
Speaker 5: number one seed, and they were also adjusting to no

1600
01:14:34,520 --> 01:14:38,040
Speaker 5: Clint Capella. So an understandable loss tonight, though we got

1601
01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:39,719
Speaker 5: to see a little bit more fight from the Hawks

1602
01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:41,160
Speaker 5: to see if this is going to be a real

1603
01:14:41,200 --> 01:14:42,880
Speaker 5: series or a quick sweeper.

1604
01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:45,760
Speaker 1: Uski here, Yeah, excited, to see what we get from

1605
01:14:46,479 --> 01:14:49,200
Speaker 1: Trey Young, I mean after the one for twelve performance,

1606
01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:50,720
Speaker 1: and a lot of that was the Heats doing like

1607
01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:52,880
Speaker 1: we talked about that defense have pressure that they just

1608
01:14:52,920 --> 01:14:55,240
Speaker 1: put on them out top? Do they move trade, do

1609
01:14:55,280 --> 01:14:57,760
Speaker 1: they do different action with them? A fascinated to see

1610
01:14:57,800 --> 01:14:59,599
Speaker 1: what Nateman Millan does there or if the heat kind

1611
01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:02,000
Speaker 1: of make it two oh, and same with the Suns Pelicans.

1612
01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:04,800
Speaker 1: Pelicans made that a game. Again, that's the forgotten game

1613
01:15:04,840 --> 01:15:07,519
Speaker 1: there on the weekend because it was so late after

1614
01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:09,960
Speaker 1: a lot of basketball, but they did get into it

1615
01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:11,840
Speaker 1: and then Chris Paul said, no, that's enough, thank you,

1616
01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:15,080
Speaker 1: we'll take this game one. So excited for all of these. Okay, Lee,

1617
01:15:15,160 --> 01:15:17,240
Speaker 1: what do you got? All right, let's see this drawing

1618
01:15:17,240 --> 01:15:22,599
Speaker 1: of branding. That's honestly pretty good. I don't remember this

1619
01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:24,839
Speaker 1: at all. Yeah, that's solid.

1620
01:15:24,920 --> 01:15:25,120
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1621
01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:25,479
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1622
01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:27,160
Speaker 4: I don't know what the sort of game or whatever

1623
01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:29,479
Speaker 4: it was we did, but that was just like, all right,

1624
01:15:29,560 --> 01:15:30,160
Speaker 4: try to draw it.

1625
01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:33,800
Speaker 3: You know, I did be Here's here's the great game

1626
01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:36,960
Speaker 3: that we played. Guess the name of the game we

1627
01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:43,160
Speaker 3: played with Brandon Ingram. This incredible and this incredible inventive.

1628
01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:46,640
Speaker 1: Game win loser, draw, no.

1629
01:15:47,320 --> 01:15:54,200
Speaker 3: This or that. So why was it very creative?

1630
01:15:56,600 --> 01:15:59,040
Speaker 1: You actually have a has anyone ever told you you're

1631
01:15:59,640 --> 01:16:02,880
Speaker 1: are to stick? Skills are very Jack Perkins.

1632
01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:07,040
Speaker 4: Like, maybe that's in I'm just trying to channel in

1633
01:16:07,080 --> 01:16:09,760
Speaker 4: a pure hoop there. Maybe that's that's it. Yeah, some

1634
01:16:09,800 --> 01:16:11,600
Speaker 4: players we can get together and collaborate.

1635
01:16:12,439 --> 01:16:15,599
Speaker 1: Maybe you had the same the same stroke style. That's

1636
01:16:15,680 --> 01:16:19,080
Speaker 1: pure hoop there. I guess he does tend to go

1637
01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:20,879
Speaker 1: with a skinny style.

1638
01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:25,559
Speaker 4: Yes, and you were working with Brandon Ingram and Ingram

1639
01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:28,080
Speaker 4: as well. I probably weighed more than him at the time.

1640
01:16:28,680 --> 01:16:31,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, Kent, I mean saying, nobody's going to talk

1641
01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:34,439
Speaker 1: about the Larry O'Brien trophies in the background. I mean, yeah,

1642
01:16:34,479 --> 01:16:37,479
Speaker 1: he was on the Lakers standing in the office. I mean,

1643
01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:40,839
Speaker 1: I don't know what you want us to say. Stroke style?

1644
01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:44,080
Speaker 1: Is this a Roman? Ads could be.

1645
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:45,840
Speaker 6: You gotta be ready Roman ready?

1646
01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:48,800
Speaker 1: So Lee, just uh, you know, wrap it up here.

1647
01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:50,760
Speaker 1: Which serious you think most likely to be? One? One

1648
01:16:50,800 --> 01:16:52,160
Speaker 1: is Itzlies?

1649
01:16:52,720 --> 01:16:54,200
Speaker 4: Yeah? I guess, yeah, I guess it has to be

1650
01:16:54,240 --> 01:16:56,639
Speaker 4: the Grizzlies at home. You expect to bounce back performance

1651
01:16:56,640 --> 01:17:00,240
Speaker 4: from them, but really fascinated to see how Kyle anty

1652
01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:03,080
Speaker 4: Towns backs up his game and Anthony Edwards. Do those

1653
01:17:03,080 --> 01:17:05,360
Speaker 4: guys do they say we've got the split, we're good,

1654
01:17:05,640 --> 01:17:07,719
Speaker 4: or do they really try to hammer home the advantage,

1655
01:17:07,760 --> 01:17:10,479
Speaker 4: because I do think they have a massive advantage in

1656
01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:14,160
Speaker 4: this series right now in the Towns is an incredibly

1657
01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:16,720
Speaker 4: difficult match up here for Memphis, and so you know,

1658
01:17:17,080 --> 01:17:19,320
Speaker 4: we've seen it. He's teased us a few times this season,

1659
01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:21,400
Speaker 4: Karl Anthony Towns where it's like maybe he has taken

1660
01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:23,880
Speaker 4: that leap to another level, but now is a really

1661
01:17:23,920 --> 01:17:28,320
Speaker 4: good opportunity for him to hammer at home. And I think, man,

1662
01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:30,880
Speaker 4: I think they can do it too. I think Minnesota

1663
01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:33,000
Speaker 4: can do it. But I'm fascinated by this series. This

1664
01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:35,160
Speaker 4: is crazy that it's on NBA TV, though, I mean,

1665
01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:38,400
Speaker 4: just doesn't make any sense to me. You've got to showcase,

1666
01:17:38,439 --> 01:17:40,160
Speaker 4: the stars come up. They've got to do it. I know,

1667
01:17:40,240 --> 01:17:42,200
Speaker 4: money talks, and it's all about you.

1668
01:17:42,160 --> 01:17:45,080
Speaker 1: Know, I think al I think a part of it though, too,

1669
01:17:45,640 --> 01:17:48,720
Speaker 1: is you know the timing of when these games have

1670
01:17:48,800 --> 01:17:51,040
Speaker 1: to start, right, so T and T has the double header,

1671
01:17:51,040 --> 01:17:53,559
Speaker 1: it's and you got the East Coast game in Miami.

1672
01:17:53,720 --> 01:17:55,920
Speaker 1: Minnesota obviously not Eastern Coast time. I think that comes

1673
01:17:55,920 --> 01:17:56,880
Speaker 1: into play, of.

1674
01:17:56,800 --> 01:17:59,680
Speaker 4: Course, of course it does. It's it's not perfect, but

1675
01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:02,080
Speaker 4: you know, the NBA just doesn't do a good enough job.

1676
01:18:02,120 --> 01:18:04,200
Speaker 4: But I don't think of saying, like throw the rules

1677
01:18:04,200 --> 01:18:06,160
Speaker 4: out the window and just get the guards who are

1678
01:18:06,160 --> 01:18:09,000
Speaker 4: the biggest drools. And I think there's more in that series.

1679
01:18:09,040 --> 01:18:12,040
Speaker 4: And yeah, and Edwards and John Morant in Towns then

1680
01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:14,960
Speaker 4: I mean try Young's obviously he's a great performance too.

1681
01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:17,599
Speaker 4: He can be awesome, But I think you've got more

1682
01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:18,759
Speaker 4: in the other series.

1683
01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:21,439
Speaker 1: Well, it's unfortunate NBA TV sort of went down the

1684
01:18:21,479 --> 01:18:23,240
Speaker 1: drain ever since they let go of the starter. So

1685
01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:26,280
Speaker 1: I mean, I see the issue here, but hey, we'll see.

1686
01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:28,400
Speaker 1: We'll be watching them all and we'll be talking about

1687
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Speaker 1: him tomorrow morning at ten am Eastern live here on YouTube.

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Speaker 1: Thanks everybody who joined us again, and if you're new

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Speaker 1: We do this every day throughout the weekend, and then

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Speaker 1: we got some weekend shifts too. That's our new little

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Speaker 1: wrinkle here in the playoffs on YouTube. So thank you

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Speaker 1: so much. We'll see you then, Clipper Bros. You heard

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Speaker 1: it here first, have a great time, turn up, love

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Speaker 1: you guys awesome.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us. And remember I figured it out

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Speaker 3: why we played we played this or that with brandon Ingram.

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Speaker 3: Why we had lead drop brand and Ingram. Brandon Ingram

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Speaker 3: likes to draw, apparently, and so he showed us, showed

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Speaker 3: us or we showed him a couple of his drawings.

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Speaker 3: And then Lee and I I totally forgot Lee and

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Speaker 3: I both true brandon Ingram. I've got that photo this

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Speaker 3: or that. Yeah, Lee destroyed me. So it does makes sense.

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Speaker 4: There's another account that Polly drawn plays that's more way

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Speaker 4: yours is there. That's not a knock. It's a different style. Now,

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Speaker 4: I'm just saying it's a different style. It's a different,

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Speaker 4: different style.

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Speaker 3: I can't believe you didn't take a photo of my drawing, leave,

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Speaker 3: but you took a photo of yours. But I can

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Speaker 3: understand why NBA TV let go of the starters after

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Speaker 3: seeing my drawing there on the right. I wrote Duke

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Speaker 3: on his shirt just in case you didn't, because there's

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Speaker 3: no way you can tell that that's brandon Ingram.

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Speaker 2: So and and ye happy every minute. It's been so

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Speaker 2: long that you're the manor ways, for it's happened already.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be gravy