1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Klay, Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:08,319 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Oomeack in now number three Wednesday edition 3 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 1: of the program. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. 4 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: We're talking the debate tonight in Tuscaloosa, Alabama. I will 5 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:21,760 Speaker 1: give you a prediction, a wager as it were. Buck, 6 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:25,280 Speaker 1: I will tell you that I am almost one hundred 7 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: percent certain that the college football playoff will be reference 8 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:34,840 Speaker 1: because it is taking place in Tuscaloosa, Alabama. Alabama gets 9 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 1: in as the four seed, Florida State left in left 10 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: out is the five seed. I'm sorry to seven old 11 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:41,919 Speaker 1: fans out there listening, as well as Georgia Bulldog fans 12 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 1: who think that they should not have been left out. 13 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 1: I bet that one of the candidates will address it 14 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 1: in some way from the stage. Now. I don't think 15 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: Megan Kelly knows or cares much about sports. We like Meghan, 16 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: so I don't think it's going to be the moderator. 17 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: And I don't know the other two moderators very well. 18 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: Do you know the other two moderators for this debate? 19 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 2: Buck? 20 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 1: Like Eleana Johnson? Yeah, a little bit, Okay, So I 21 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 1: don't know either of them. I would bet that they 22 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: are not die hard sports fans. Although maybe I'm wrong, 23 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: but I think we'll get a reference to the college 24 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: football playoff from the debate stage night. So we got 25 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: four candidates, they are going to be up on the 26 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: debate stage. Trump is obviously still leading in a big way. 27 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: As we finished off the last hour. You referenced buck 28 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: a report that came from a Biden fundraiser, and I 29 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: am paraphrasing here. Basically, Biden said that if Trump were 30 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: not running, he probably wouldn't run, but he feels like 31 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 1: he has to beat Trump, and he's the most likely 32 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: to beat Trump. 33 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 2: And again I'm paraphrasing. 34 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: So question for you, do you believe Joe Biden at 35 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: all that if Trump were to say, you know what, 36 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: I'm out, that Biden would actually say I'm out too. 37 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 2: Do you buy this? 38 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: Do you buy this or you think it's a convenient 39 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: excuse for I didn't to be able to trot out. 40 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 3: I think we have him getting asked this. I think 41 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 3: this cut seventeen, would you be running if Trump? I'll 42 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 3: answer your question, but would you be running if Trump 43 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 3: wasn't running? This cut seventeen play. 44 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 4: I expect so, but look, he is running and. 45 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 5: I just have to run. 46 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 3: No, not now, so play Biden saying I have to 47 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 3: run to your point before you asked me, Do I 48 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 3: buy this? I do believe, and I get no joy 49 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 3: out of saying this. So people that disagree just telling 50 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 3: me what my assessment is. Democrats think that Biden's their 51 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 3: best shot of beating Trump. And we can look at 52 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 3: that right now and say that that's crazy. But it 53 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 3: ain't over till it's over, and they, I think, would 54 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 3: have to go with a different approach if it had 55 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 3: been a different candidate. You know, our side is very 56 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:00,959 Speaker 3: convinced that Trump won in twenty twenty by and large, 57 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 3: and that he will win again. The Democrats, I can 58 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 3: assure you, are very convinced that Trump lost. They think 59 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 3: he lost Farren square in twenty twenty and we'll lose again. 60 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 3: That is their perspective on this. 61 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. So I do think that Joe. 62 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 3: Biden believes that he has the backing of the Democrat machinery, 63 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 3: not just because he's president, but because they think in 64 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 3: a matchup their best chance to defeat Trump, who certainly 65 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 3: looks like the overwhelming prohibitive favor to be the nominee. 66 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 3: They think their best shot is Joe Biden. I actually 67 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 3: do believe that that is their assessment. I don't think 68 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 3: that that's just bluster at this point. Well, and your 69 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 3: point on this is if they are actually confident, and 70 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 3: I question how confident they can be. We talked about 71 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 3: this yesterday because we should mention that they sent out 72 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 3: the jury questionnaires on the Washington DC trial. I saw 73 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 3: our friend Julie Kelly tweet that out yesterday afternoon or evening. 74 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 3: If I'm not mistaken, to begin the process of trying 75 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 3: to corral the future jurors who would sit on the 76 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 3: Jan six related case that Jack Smith is bringing. 77 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 2: And you argued. 78 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: That Democrats as sort of their ace in the hole, 79 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:23,720 Speaker 1: so to speak, that they believe that any conviction of 80 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 1: Trump for felony charges is going to destroy his candidacy, 81 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: and there is polling to reflect that that would be true. 82 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: Now I'm going against the polling in this respect. I 83 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: think Democrats have to be getting nervous because I think 84 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 1: if you told Democrats a year ago that Trump would 85 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 1: be up in all of the swing states, that Trump 86 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:48,799 Speaker 1: would be above Biden in many of the national polls 87 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 1: that are running and that Trump even would have the 88 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: lead that he does in the Republican primary. I think 89 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: they would have been stunned, and I think they would 90 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 1: be super apprehensive about what that foretells for the next 91 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: eleven months now if they truly do believe that they're 92 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: going to get a conviction, which if that case goes 93 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 1: to trial in DC, I think it's virtually certain that 94 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: Trump would be convicted of something based on the jury pool. 95 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 1: I think the question just becomes how much does that 96 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 1: court decision alter the trajectory of the race, because I 97 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 1: don't think Atlanta and I don't think Miami are going 98 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: to get finished before we actually have people going out 99 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 1: in voting. 100 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 3: My guess at this point is still that they believe 101 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 3: the legal the legal onslaught or the legal ambush against Trump, 102 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 3: whatever you want to call it, trap that they have 103 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 3: set for him, will effectively deliver the race to Joe Biden, 104 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 3: and then everything else will just be candidate by candidate. 105 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 3: They have a tough time in the Senate regardless, So 106 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,559 Speaker 3: Democrats know they're going to have a tough Senate battle ahead. 107 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 3: The House is going to be very very close, likely 108 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 3: to be very very close, and they think that they 109 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 3: can pull this out because or remember the lesson of 110 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 3: twenty twenty two was, Yeah, the J six hearings and 111 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 3: the fear mongering around abortion didn't convince a lot of people, 112 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 3: but it convinced enough people in enough places that they should. 113 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 2: Vote for the Democrat. 114 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 3: And that's something that I think we have to keep 115 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 3: in mind here that based on the way that the 116 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 3: two sides get dug in and the narrowness of the 117 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 3: deciding factors, if you can figure out effectively what lock 118 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,679 Speaker 3: and what key you need, and you can just get 119 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 3: that one last tranche of voters across the line in 120 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 3: one of the states or a handful of states that matters, 121 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 3: that's what will be determinative. So I am concerned about 122 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:56,279 Speaker 3: that because every poll people are now look at all 123 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:57,840 Speaker 3: the poles, saying, look at how bad Biden is, Look 124 00:06:57,880 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 3: how much Trump is winning. 125 00:06:58,720 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 2: I say, that's great. 126 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 3: We should probably see more polls on what happens if 127 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:04,919 Speaker 3: Trump gets convicted in one of these trials, because the 128 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 3: one poll that we've seen on it, I think it 129 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:07,919 Speaker 3: was a Siena poll, Am I right on that? 130 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 2: I'm trying to remember. I think it was. 131 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: Was it a New York Times, Paul, Yeah, you're right, 132 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: I mean it was in recent history it said that 133 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:16,239 Speaker 1: everything would flip basically if Trump were convicted of a felony. 134 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, that Trump loses every swing state if he's convicted 135 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 3: of a felony. You and I agree that I don't 136 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 3: believe that, but I would like to see more data. Yeah, 137 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 3: because if that is true, the GOP is walking into 138 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 3: a massive trap. If that is true, yes, and that 139 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 3: is that is again, if you're Biden's team, that has 140 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 3: to be what they think the ace in the hole is. 141 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 3: I would just point out I don't think they ever 142 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 3: thought they would be down like they're down eleven months out. 143 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: I want to play you this cut. We mentioned it, 144 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: I think earlier in the program for End of the show. 145 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: Riley Gaines she works it out kick. She's great, especially 146 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: when you consider that she's, you know, twenty three years old, 147 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: I think to have stepped into a political firestorm like 148 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: she has and to have handled it so well. Her husband, Louis, 149 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: by the way, is also fantastic. I think I've mentioned 150 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 1: this before. Only guy I've ever met who has a 151 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: totally mixed English and Southern accent, so he's from England, 152 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: he's a swimmer. He came to swim at the University 153 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 1: of Kentucky, which is where Riley met him, and he 154 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: now lives in the Nashville area, where Riley grew up 155 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 1: and where I live. 156 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 2: Buck. 157 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 1: When you talk to him, he is fifty percent English accent, 158 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: fifty percent Southern accent. It's one of the most amazing 159 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: combos I have ever seen. He's an awesome dude. Riley 160 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 1: was testifying in front of a cow on Capitol Hill 161 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 1: in front of a congressional committee analyzing this ridiculousness of 162 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 1: men competing as women, and she was called by Summer Lee, 163 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:54,959 Speaker 1: who I believe Buck is a congresswoman from a very 164 00:08:55,000 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 1: competitive Pennsylvania Pittsburgh area district. Maybe a team can confirm 165 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: that that's true. Potentially a toss up style seat. I 166 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 1: think I'm correcting that she's Democrat from Pennsylvania for sure. 167 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:13,959 Speaker 1: Summer Lee said that Riley Gaines was transphobic, so Riley 168 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: decided to push back, and she said, Okay, if you're 169 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: gonna call me a transphobe, then I'm gonna call you 170 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: a misogynist. And it just throws the entire U. You 171 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 1: need to see the video, but I think it'll play 172 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: well on audio two. It throws the entire hearing into 173 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: an uproar. 174 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 2: Listen. 175 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 5: Inclusion cannot be prioritized over safety and fairness. And Ranking 176 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 5: Member Lee, if my testimony makes me transphobic, then I 177 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 5: believe your opening monologue makes you a misogynist. Thank you, 178 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 5: Uh mentare excuse me? I moved to have the gentle 179 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 5: woman's words taken down. 180 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 4: The committee will suspend matam cuar. 181 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 5: She's engaging in personalities. Can I just ask how it's 182 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:55,319 Speaker 5: fair to be called transphobic. 183 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 3: There's a thing I would say, men disguising themselves as well. 184 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 2: The men are engaging in personalities. 185 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 4: Order and han on han on order order. 186 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 2: Let's let's get a ruling that chair. 187 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: Order, Thank you, miss Lee. So I don't know buck 188 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 1: exactly what she she wanted to. The general rule is 189 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: that you are not allowed to insult people at congressional hearings. 190 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:24,839 Speaker 1: So she called Riley Gaines a transphobe. And then Riley 191 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:26,439 Speaker 1: Gaines said, well, wait a minute, if you can call 192 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: me transphobic, I'm gonna call you a misogynist. And then 193 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 1: it was like she was looking up you can see 194 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 1: the video, like her staffers all come together around and 195 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: they're they're reviewing whether or not this is a permissible 196 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: or impermissible and then finally she withdraws her motion. So 197 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 1: I would love to know exactly what happened there, But 198 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: to me it perfectly distills sort of this name calling 199 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:51,439 Speaker 1: era where if you come back and actually give them 200 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 1: some of their own medicine, their arguments collapse in a hurry. 201 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:59,559 Speaker 3: So yeah, props to Riley. Also, whether it's Islamophobia or transphobia, 202 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 3: the left does this thing of the phobias. 203 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 2: All the time. 204 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:04,839 Speaker 3: I don't have an irrational fear, nor do these other 205 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 3: people that are all on the conservative side of this. 206 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 3: I don't have an irrational fear of any of this. 207 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 3: Uh So, phobia is just the wrong suffix for the situation. Yeah, 208 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 3: I just don't think that you know a guy with 209 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,839 Speaker 3: you know, male genitalia and testosterone. I mean, it's very 210 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 3: obvious play against women and women's sports. The notion that 211 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 3: that makes me afraid, I'm not afraid. There's no fear 212 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 3: here to shoot what I'm saying. And this is the 213 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 3: term they always use, like you're trust point tobic. No, 214 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 3: I'm not scared of these people. I think a lot 215 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 3: of them need help. Actually, I think a lot of 216 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 3: them need mental health and counseling. But there's no part 217 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 3: of me goes, oh my gosh, I'm scared. I'm definitely 218 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 3: not scared. Nor is Riley getting scared of the transagenda. 219 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:46,439 Speaker 3: I don't agree with it. 220 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great point because if you, let's say 221 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: you're coaching Little League like I have done, if somebody 222 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 1: tries to bring a sixteen year old out to pitch 223 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 1: at a twelve year old baseball game, I'm not age phobic. 224 00:11:59,320 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not. 225 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: Just the sixteen year old. The sixteen year old just 226 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,959 Speaker 1: doesn't fit the rules. He shouldn't be able to compete 227 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 1: against twelve year olds. It's not age phobia. Well, it's 228 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: well said, and I think it's it again. Ties in 229 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 1: with they don't actually engage in arguments. They try to 230 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: engage in attacks, which scare people from actually engaging in 231 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: the marketplace of ideas and actually putting forth their opinions, 232 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 1: which is why I think Riley has been so effective 233 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 1: and why I think she's so brave in general, for 234 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: the way that she's handled all this. 235 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and you know, my friends, you know, we're 236 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 3: talking about Riley, we're talking about sports and competition, and 237 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 3: these days, whether you're out there's a weekend warrior athlete 238 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 3: like me. 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For those of you who did not 276 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: hear the first hour of the program, we played you 277 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: the audio of the congressional hearing yesterday where Congresswoman Elise 278 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: Stephanic got all of these different university presidents to not 279 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: say that if somebody's walking around on the campus cheering 280 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: for a Jewish genocide celebrating it, that that wouldn't be 281 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: a violation of the university codes. This is Andrew Bates, 282 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 1: He's the White House Deputy Press Secretary. They issued this 283 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 1: statement just a little bit ago. It's unbelievable. This needs 284 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: to be said. Calls for genocide are monstrous and antithetical 285 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: to everything we represent as a country. Any statements that 286 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: advocate for the systemic murder of Jews are dangerous and revolting, 287 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: and we should all stand firmly against them on the 288 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: side of human dignity and the most basic values that 289 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 1: unite us as Americans. 290 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 2: Buck. 291 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 1: I don't remember the White House ever condemning this White 292 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 1: House ever condemning Harvard, MIT, Columbia, University of Pennsylvania, many 293 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: of these Ivy League institutions as they just did. That 294 00:15:56,560 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 1: speaks to how poorly those comments have been receive all 295 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 1: across the political spectrum. And I wonder whether these universities 296 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 1: are going to make a decision to move on from 297 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: some of these presidents and let them be the fall person. 298 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 3: Well, they recognize though that the meaning the presidents that 299 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 3: the lunatic brigade would turn on them. 300 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. 301 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 3: They You'll notice that whenever there's a protest on campus 302 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 3: that is in support of Israel and the Jewish people, 303 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 3: it is orderly, law abiding and respectful, and know they're 304 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 3: not shouting about how they want to, you know, like 305 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 3: murder all the Palestinian people or something. Whenever there's stuff 306 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 3: that goes far off the line and is grotesque and racist, 307 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 3: anti Semitic, it comes from these far left, pro Palestinian types, 308 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 3: and they would turn on any school president who would 309 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 3: not try to straddle this line of oh yeah, all 310 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 3: of a sudden, we're free speech absolutists on campus. 311 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 2: They're not. 312 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:04,439 Speaker 3: They're the opposite of that. In fact, their campus speech 313 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 3: codes are used to protect groups from the perception of harm, 314 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:12,919 Speaker 3: like meaning that you could even say something that you 315 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 3: don't intend to be offensive or you don't intend to 316 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 3: be but if the aggrieved, you know, if the aggrieved 317 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:25,120 Speaker 3: minority group or whichever group on campus says it's a problem, 318 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 3: you can go to the re education camp with everybody. 319 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 2: Else, and we just mentioned Riley Gaines. Mean, it's a 320 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 2: good example. 321 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 1: Her speeches are sometimes protested and shut down on college campuses. 322 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: What does she say that's so radical? Men shouldn't be 323 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 1: able to compete in women's sports. They don't stand up 324 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 1: and protect her. Many of these universities fight to keep 325 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: her from being able to speak on campus. 326 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 2: Again, I'm a free speech absolutist. 327 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,399 Speaker 1: So if they want to say, hey, kids can be 328 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 1: members of the KKK and walk through campus screaming for 329 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: the genocide of the black race, then okay. At least 330 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:04,360 Speaker 1: they're being consistent. What they're not doing is consistency at all. 331 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 1: They're content discriminating, and they're trying to preserve the right 332 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 1: to say that. 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Use 342 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 1: the code Clay and Buck Welcome back in Clay, Travis 343 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you. 344 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 2: Hanging out with us. 345 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: We got to meet Malik, who is doing incredible work 346 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: in the capitalist business space as it pertains to not 347 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 1: being crazy, woke, insane business practices, and I wanted to 348 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 1: let him explain to all of you what he's doing 349 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: with Public Square and so many other different companies out there. Oh, Meed, 350 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:07,120 Speaker 1: I think you're a lot like me in that you're 351 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:09,920 Speaker 1: around both mine and Bucks ages. But you look around 352 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:13,439 Speaker 1: and from a business perspective, would you ever believe that 353 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 1: bud Light would be giving cans with the pictures on 354 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 1: them to Dylan mulvaney, and that you know, you'd go 355 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 1: to watch a superhero movie and it would like Marvel 356 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:25,360 Speaker 1: all of a sudden has to have you know, trans 357 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:28,679 Speaker 1: superheroes who have lesbian parents. I mean, I just I 358 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 1: don't know how we ever ended up here. 359 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 4: Well, a lot of it is is actually you got 360 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,880 Speaker 4: to follow the money. Just like when we find ourselves 361 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:40,400 Speaker 4: in the Twilight Zone. Why are we in the Twilight Zone. Yeah, 362 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 4: as it relates to the movies, though, I like to 363 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 4: ask the question, in the last twenty years, when's the 364 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 4: last movie you saw that was negative about China or 365 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 4: the CCP. We make great movies to sell to them, 366 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 4: and then we take out all that transgender stuff and 367 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 4: then they bring TikTok over backgrounds need to expose. But 368 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:00,080 Speaker 4: you're absolutely right. I mean, I've just gotten sick of 369 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 4: I'm a parent now and for people like us who 370 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,439 Speaker 4: have the ability, whether you guys in media or me 371 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 4: in finance, don't do something about it. How we're going 372 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,119 Speaker 4: to look our kids in the eyes and say that 373 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 4: we didn't stop this because look, you know you guys 374 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 4: are passionate about this too. COVID radicalized me. I mean 375 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:22,199 Speaker 4: what I saw there, the lies and censorship. I mean 376 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:25,679 Speaker 4: I moved from New York to Florida for freedom, and 377 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 4: I started really seeing why federalism matters. You know, you 378 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:33,360 Speaker 4: have different economic and political systems New York and California, 379 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:36,959 Speaker 4: the failed model versus you know, Texas or Florida. But 380 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 4: then what I started seeing was the battlefield is not 381 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 4: just around policy. It's going to be about economics. That's 382 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 4: how they get us with social credit scores is the 383 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 4: government uses big tech companies and other big companies to 384 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 4: control us, and that I wasn't going to let that happen. 385 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 4: So my mission now is to the nancies companies that 386 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 4: are going to keep us free. 387 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:57,400 Speaker 2: Well means buck, good to have you with us. 388 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 3: And I wanted you to take this opportunity to tell 389 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 3: all the folks listening across the country about where some 390 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 3: of the places are that we're already building. You know, 391 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:11,439 Speaker 3: they're familiar with, you know, Rumble for example, they're familiar 392 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 3: with the truth social But give us kind of an 393 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:17,920 Speaker 3: update on how the parallel and really just the truly 394 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 3: capitalist economy and the conservative values accepted economy is going 395 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 3: at this point, Like where are we racking up some 396 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 3: progress and some momentum. 397 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 4: The first thing is it's the top of the first right, 398 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 4: We are just getting started here. ESG started becoming a 399 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 4: phrase in twenty ten and has become a multi trillion 400 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 4: dollar scam. Okay, it also destroys economic value, but it's 401 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 4: really used in order to control us. As I was saying, 402 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 4: as it relates to this parallel economy that you referenced, 403 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 4: we call it the EIG economy, so we mean entrepreneurship, 404 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 4: innovation and growth. And yes we have our own acronym 405 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 4: against ESG. It's EIG. This ecosystem basically has three buckets 406 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 4: that we invest in through our fund, seventeen eighty nine Capital, 407 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 4: which is the vehicle that gave Tucker Carlson his money 408 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 4: to get his new company started up that we've spoken about. 409 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 4: The first bucket is exactly what you're saying, buck it's 410 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:18,360 Speaker 4: the replication businesses. You have an existing company that's co 411 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 4: opted or is done totally woke, and we need a 412 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 4: response to that. So yes you have Rumble, which is 413 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 4: a response to YouTube black Rifle Copy, a response to Starbucks, 414 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 4: the company we took public Public Square that I now 415 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 4: sit on the board of which is a response to Amazon. 416 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,879 Speaker 4: But that's going to continue at every part of our economy. 417 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 4: We need our own payment processors when you see PayPal 418 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:44,640 Speaker 4: finding people for what they determine is misinformation. We need 419 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 4: our own banks when you see the truckers up in 420 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 4: Canada lose their bank accounts because they want to protest 421 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 4: these unnecessary vaccine mandates, right or asset managers like the 422 00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 4: veck was doing with Strive so that's the replication economy. 423 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 4: We're going to need to make sure that we're insulated 424 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 4: so we cannot get canceled in the private sector, so 425 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 4: they deperson us. So all that stuff has to happen. 426 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 4: And that's all areas that we're investing in and have 427 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 4: helped companies like publish Squareco Public or Tucker, which is 428 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 4: a response to cable news. The second bucket of EIG 429 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 4: is how do we enhance American prosperity. How are we 430 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 4: investing in like defense tech. We've already made an investment 431 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 4: in a company called Firehawk in Texas. They develop rocket 432 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 4: fuel cheaper than the competitors for missiles. How are we 433 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 4: investing in things that are going to onshore manufacturing, don't 434 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 4: continue to make us totally dependent and get all of 435 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 4: our stuff from China, who's our enemy. And then finally 436 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 4: bucket three, there's a lot of great companies out there 437 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 4: that ESG has ruined because the ESG overloads tell us 438 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 4: we're not going to give them any money because they're bad. 439 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:55,199 Speaker 4: I'm thinking things in fossil fuels, ammunition, guns. I'm going 440 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 4: to go invest in those companies because they're great businesses 441 00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 4: that have really good financial profiles, but they can't even 442 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 4: get a loan from a bank. Those are the three buckets. 443 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,400 Speaker 4: We're going to plan in what we call EIG, which 444 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 4: is going to fight back against the ESG. 445 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 1: I agree with everything you're doing, and I think this 446 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: is really really important, and I think increasingly our audience 447 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 1: wants to be able to spend money with companies that 448 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 1: respect them. It's one thing if these companies decided, hey, 449 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 1: we're going to spend money across the entire political spectrum 450 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 1: and we want every Republican, we want every Democrat, we 451 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: want everybody to be buying our products. They're not doing that. 452 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 1: Why do you think that is? Ultimately because everything you're 453 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 1: saying I agree with. I think it does create instead 454 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 1: of being angry about it. I think the best way 455 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 1: to deal with anger. I did it when I started 456 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 1: my company OutKick, is to actually create an alternative right, 457 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 1: go out and use entrepreneurial spirit to take advantage of 458 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 1: marketplace opportunities. But why do you think this marketplace opportunity exists? 459 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 1: Why do you think I'm just throwing you know, Disney? 460 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 1: Why would Disney not be trying to appeal to every parent, 461 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: regardless of what their politics are. That feels like the 462 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 1: Disney that I grew up with, or Coke or bud Light. 463 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: Why do you think they're making these choices? 464 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 4: Well, I think it's several reasons. I mean, one is 465 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 4: just like an economic thing. Let's use The New York 466 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 4: Times for example. Did it always kind of lean slightly left? Yes, 467 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 4: but we're around the same age. It wasn't like it 468 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 4: is today in the nineties or even in the two thousands. Right. 469 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:31,640 Speaker 4: The reason why The New York Times is not even 470 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 4: readable anymore is because it moved from an advertising general 471 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 4: model to a subscription based model. So the majority of 472 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 4: the revenue of The New York Times or any of 473 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 4: these outlets that are supposedly news now is based on subscribers. 474 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 4: And what that means is we lend ourselves to the 475 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 4: red meat of who our purchases are, who's paying that 476 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 4: eight to ninety nine a month, And so they're only 477 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 4: appealing to Brooklyn and the West Coast for the people 478 00:25:58,200 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 4: who are their subscribers. That's where they get all the 479 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 4: revenue from. And now the New York Times is actually 480 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:06,360 Speaker 4: wants to be by their own admission, in entertainment business, right, 481 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,679 Speaker 4: They're not really reporting news. They're trying to give the 482 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 4: type of content that their subscribers want. So that's how 483 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 4: you start to see the problem. And then also you 484 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,679 Speaker 4: end up having what we have now, which is this 485 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:21,959 Speaker 4: tyranny of the minority, which is these crazy movements that 486 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 4: have really sprouted up basically that coincide to the election 487 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:29,199 Speaker 4: of Donald Trump. Now, it's extremely nefarious why all of 488 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 4: these things have started happening. What I believe to be 489 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 4: the case is that around twenty fifteen you had two 490 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 4: populous movements taking place on both the left and the right. 491 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 4: And you remember it was Bernie Sanders who they stole 492 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 4: the election from through the DNC on one side, and 493 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 4: of course Donald Trump on the other side. I think 494 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 4: that freaked the hell out of the establishment, the oligarchs, 495 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,120 Speaker 4: whatever you want to call them, but we know who 496 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:56,239 Speaker 4: they are, and I believe that is been promoted by 497 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 4: the media and other propaganda tools at the behest of 498 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 4: the government in the establishment to try to divide us, 499 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 4: and it's going on throughout all of human history. My 500 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 4: family's from the Middle East. I know a lot about 501 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 4: sectarian violence that's being done by the hands of the 502 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 4: people who are in charge to get other people to 503 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 4: fight each other. That's why they want men and women 504 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 4: to hate each other, blacks and whites to hate each other. 505 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 4: And you've really seen this big fueled really since the 506 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 4: election of Trump, and it's all for a particular purpose. 507 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:28,399 Speaker 4: And so that then lends itself even further to the 508 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 4: economic decisions about some of the companies you're referencing. Sorry 509 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 4: that this is so complicated, but it really is this 510 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 4: nefarious and detailed, because otherwise, to your point, it's ill logical. 511 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:42,439 Speaker 4: Then asset managers, controlled by only three entities that control 512 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 4: all these large public companies, whether it's Black Rock, Vanguard, 513 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,880 Speaker 4: then also have their own agendas. And then they take 514 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 4: the state pension money, which is only recently, as you 515 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 4: guys know, with Florida and others starting to divest from it. 516 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,679 Speaker 4: And then they control the economic decisions on the boards 517 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 4: of these large companies. So that's kind of a very 518 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 4: very brief synopsis of where this comes from, how it's 519 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 4: economically motivated, and yeah, it's totally different from how we 520 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 4: grew up. When Michael Jordan says he doesn't talk about 521 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 4: politics because Republicans buy sneakers too, I've quantified the opportunity 522 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:18,680 Speaker 4: here for you guys. Though, right at the outset when 523 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 4: I started doing this, I just looked at, Okay, just 524 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,360 Speaker 4: the people that voted for Donald Trump. That's seventy three 525 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 4: million people. And the Brooking is who told me that 526 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 4: that's thirty percent of American GDP. So that's like the 527 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 4: lowest amount of money. That's seven trillion dollars of GDP 528 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 4: that we all know are pissed off being ignored and 529 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 4: alienated by these big companies that would be the third 530 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 4: largest economy in the world. So you better believe I'm 531 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 4: going to do everything I can to be the financier 532 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 4: for these people because I don't care that it's only 533 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 4: thirty percent of GDP. It's still the third largest economy 534 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 4: in the world, and they're ready to stop giving their 535 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 4: money people to hate them. The last thing I'll say 536 00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 4: is a perfect example of what you're referencing. Salesforce. You know, 537 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 4: the CRM that pretty much every business uses. It's owned 538 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 4: by a guy named Mark Benioff who owns now Time magazine, 539 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 4: and he's the guy that funded Eg and Carol's lawsuit 540 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 4: against Donald Trump. So every time people buy one of 541 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 4: these products or use these things, that I think are innocuous. 542 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 4: You are literally funding not just people that don't like you, 543 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 4: who take your money and then try to hurt you 544 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 4: and hurt the people that you want in power. That's 545 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 4: how serious this is. So it's not about boycotts. That's 546 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 4: not effective. You have to then create businesses, services and 547 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 4: products for people to be positive so we can actually 548 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 4: effectuate change. And that's literally as American as apple pie. 549 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 4: Because it's capitalism. We need to give people choices. 550 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 3: Oh Mead Maleigue, founder of seventeen eighty non capital OMI, 551 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 3: we're gonna have to have you to come back and 552 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 3: update this on how the parallel economy and true capitalism 553 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 3: is working over time and talk to you about the 554 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 3: economy and the election here too. So thanks for making 555 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 3: the time for us today. We'll talk to you soon. 556 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 4: Absolutely really appreciate connecting with you guys, and thanks for 557 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 4: all that you do. 558 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 2: Thank you, sir. 559 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 3: And you know we love bringing word about new companies 560 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 3: to people, especially new companies that can save you money. 561 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 3: And you know, the Biden administration is telling you that 562 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 3: the economy is just fine, but you know that's not true. 563 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 3: Because you buy groceries, you're putting gas in your car, 564 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 3: You're going out to a restaurant in your neighborhood, and 565 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 3: what are you seeing high prices? But I'm not just 566 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 3: telling you the problem. I want to offer you a solution, 567 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 3: at least something that can really help. The Upside App. 568 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 3: The Upside App gives you cash back on a variety 569 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 3: of purchases, things that you have to buy anyway, like 570 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 3: food and gas. So want to give it a shot. 571 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 3: Carrie's got it. 572 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 2: She loves it. 573 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 3: She loves going hunting for a deal, so she pulls 574 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 3: out the app on her phone. 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Get it all on the iHeart app or 595 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts. 596 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 3: Welcome back, play in Buck closing up shop here shortly, 597 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 3: but we have some I wouldn't say it's breaking news, 598 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 3: but a new story that has emerged, Yes, I guess 599 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 3: that's secondly breaking news. A new story that's happening in 600 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 3: the new cycle is breaking news. 601 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 2: Okay. 602 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 3: Joe Biden was pushed on his associations with the global 603 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 3: Hunter Biden business scam, and Joe is taking the position 604 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 3: as the President of United States, taking the position right 605 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 3: now that he never interacted with any of Hunter's business associates. 606 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 2: Listen to this. 607 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 6: There's polling by the Associated Press that shows that almost 608 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 6: seventy percent of Americans, including forty percent of Democrats, believe 609 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 6: that you acted either illegally or unethically in regards to 610 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 6: your family's business interests. Can you explain to the Americans 611 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 6: into Americans student this impeachment inquuration, why you interacted with 612 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 6: so many of your son and brothers foreign business associates. 613 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 4: I'm not going to comme and I did not And 614 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 4: I was supposed to a bunch of lies. 615 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 6: Interacts with either liberals associates. 616 00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 2: I did not lies. 617 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 3: I don't know if that's going to work because the 618 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 3: evidence is too clear and there's too much of a 619 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 3: clay that the lies are what Biden's telling. 620 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, and this is I give credit. I'm not 621 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 1: sure who that reporter was that asked that question. This 622 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 1: is what reporters are supposed to do, hold powerful people 623 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 1: accountable for the things that they may well have done 624 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 1: that have run a foul of either the law legally 625 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 1: or the ethical standards that have been put in place. 626 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 1: You should challenge people to confront them with the truth. 627 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 1: And I don't think Joe Biden just continuing to say no, 628 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 1: these are all lies is going to work. This is 629 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 1: why the impeachment inquiry matters so much, because there has 630 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 1: now been through James Comer's Committee an awful lot of evidence, 631 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 1: at a minimum, that Joe Biden was regularly interacting with 632 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden's business associates all the time, and that Hunter 633 00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,160 Speaker 1: certainly was making his money based on his connection to 634 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 1: the Biden family brand. So the idea that Biden can say, oh, 635 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 1: they're all lies, I wasn't ever involved. First of all, 636 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:10,880 Speaker 1: it takes this long for him to be getting questioned 637 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 1: about this is a testament to how much he avoids 638 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,440 Speaker 1: the media and also how much they exist basically to 639 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 1: be propagandizers for him. But this is a great question. 640 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,800 Speaker 1: And now Biden's on the record saying these are all lies, 641 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,839 Speaker 1: which we know they are not. So Biden is now 642 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:29,959 Speaker 1: on the record directly lying yet again about his relationship 643 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 1: with his son's foreign business partners. 644 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 3: And the lesson, as I've told anyone who will listen, 645 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:40,799 Speaker 3: the lesson of the Hunter Biden laptop fiasco, is that 646 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 3: the Democrat corporate media will tell the most brazen and 647 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:51,279 Speaker 3: disprovable lies if in the moment. 648 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 2: It is useful to them. 649 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 3: They don't care what it does to their integrity, because 650 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 3: they have no integrity to protect. They don't care what 651 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 3: it does to the Institution of Journalism, because the Institute 652 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,880 Speaker 3: Journalism as a joke, so get ready for that in 653 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 3: this election year. It's not like they've sent out memos 654 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 3: to everybody, Hey guys, we can't do that whole hunter 655 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 3: Biden laptop was fake thing again like we did in 656 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 3: twenty twenty, because you know, that was a bad look. 657 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 2: No. 658 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 3: In fact, I think they celebrated quietly because Joe Biden 659 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 3: is now President of the United States. So whatever they did, 660 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 3: whatever lies they had to tell, they think were entirely justified, 661 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 3: and they would do it again. I think the fifty 662 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,360 Speaker 3: or whatever with fifty one to fifty three intelligence officials 663 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 3: who signed that that absurd. It's Russian disinformation. The laptop 664 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,759 Speaker 3: is Russian disinformation, Clay, I think they. 665 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:36,320 Speaker 2: Would do it again. 666 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 1: Well, they had zero consequences, and in fact, the opposite 667 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 1: of consequences, which is one of the big issues that 668 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 1: I think we have in the country today. They lied 669 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,400 Speaker 1: and they got rewarded for it. So it's the direct 670 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,839 Speaker 1: opposite of any sort of consequences. And we talked about 671 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,720 Speaker 1: this with so many of the decisions that were made 672 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:56,240 Speaker 1: surrounding COVID and have been made by our elected officials 673 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,320 Speaker 1: over the last five, six, seven years, has anybody actually 674 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,320 Speaker 1: been held account for making poor decisions on behalf of 675 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:03,320 Speaker 1: the American public. 676 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 2: No. Most of the time they get re elected. 677 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 3: And now I got to tell you I'm super nervous 678 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 3: about parallel parking for the next few days because I 679 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:15,920 Speaker 3: feel like if anything goes wrong, a big portion of 680 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 3: our audience is going to say, Oh, yeah, mister fancy 681 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,360 Speaker 3: man with his parallel parking jokes. 682 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,319 Speaker 2: Huh, you better make sure I check my rear view. Yeah, 683 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 2: you better be flawless on your parallel parking