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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is Mick Shot

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Speaker 1: screening live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the official

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys apt now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls,

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Speaker 1: and Nicky Spagnola and it is time for another edition

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Speaker 1: of Mick Shots on a Thursday afternoon as the Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: We heard from the coordinators today and Mickey Spagnola has

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Speaker 1: just returned from an exclusive sit down with the man

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Speaker 1: at the top of the coaching staff. Hot off the press, Baby,

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Speaker 1: I cannot wait to hear what Mickey has to say.

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Speaker 1: It was sort of like a fireside chat, just so

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Speaker 1: intimate session with the head coach with about I don't

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Speaker 1: know fourteen fourteen of the guys that cover the team

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Speaker 1: as writers fourteen. It's not very exclusive then, well, ye

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Speaker 1: kind of crowded that. It sound like one on one right,

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Speaker 1: Oh oh, not like you and Jerry. Not like you

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Speaker 1: and Jerry, Mickey will Mickey will get his one on

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Speaker 1: one with the coach, just like he got his one

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Speaker 1: on one last week with the coach. That's right, Mickey,

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Speaker 1: have you paid your fine yet? I have to address

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Speaker 1: that with him. Yet we're gonna hear about it. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna do that. We're gonna work on a reduction. So

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Speaker 1: we were he was He used the Well, what we

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Speaker 1: had done with the pregame show was the first segment

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Speaker 1: would be with the head coach right on the floor

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Speaker 1: of the game. He didn't want to do it live,

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Speaker 1: so we had to record it near the locker room

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Speaker 1: about a half hour before we started. I don't blame

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Speaker 1: show too, I'd want to take it to right. And

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Speaker 1: uh so we're in the middle of our little one

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Speaker 1: on one and my phone rings, wow, and he goes

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Speaker 1: a typical rookie move and he goes, that's sixteen hundred dollars.

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Speaker 1: It was great because he didn't miss a beat. He

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Speaker 1: was just answering the question and phone ring he answered

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Speaker 1: the question right. You talked about literally not missing a beat.

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Speaker 1: That's the way James Brown used to do his band

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Speaker 1: members right. He would stay on beat and tell him

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Speaker 1: got you right, that's where he got you. So he

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Speaker 1: got me. So we had the session recorded right and

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Speaker 1: then so we played it later in the in the

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Speaker 1: pregame show and we got the phone to go right

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Speaker 1: and everybody got a good laugh. Out of it. So

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Speaker 1: when we came back for the next segment, I had

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Speaker 1: my wallet out and I said, Okay, I'm gonna start paying.

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Speaker 1: I got a little money left over from the training

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Speaker 1: camp now from the lawsuit from when you got hit

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Speaker 1: on your bike. Yeah right, so yeah, so so you

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Speaker 1: made your you made sure the phone was silenced before

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Speaker 1: this quote unquote exclusively still as a matter of fact,

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Speaker 1: and I think I even you might have missed a

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Speaker 1: few I all turned out the off the vibration too,

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Speaker 1: might have missed a few calls do the right thing. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so lemonades involved. Yeah, so anyway, but no, he was

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Speaker 1: you know what he did this last year right after

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Speaker 1: he got the job. He got it was like two

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Speaker 1: weeks later, and then COVID theirs, and then it was

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Speaker 1: before COVID hit and he just kind of wanted to

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Speaker 1: get to know the guys that he was going to

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Speaker 1: be dealing with. So we all went up there and

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Speaker 1: everybody introduced themselves. Hi, um, you know, and how long

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Speaker 1: you covered the team? And of course you know, they

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Speaker 1: went around the room, yes, one by one, and you know,

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Speaker 1: it got to me and I go, well, I've been

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Speaker 1: here forever, you know whatever, And that was the last interaction.

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Speaker 1: So this would have been the second or third week

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Speaker 1: in January. That would have been the last interaction we had.

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Speaker 1: I had with him in person, in person until two

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Speaker 1: or three days before now. It would have been the

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Speaker 1: day before Thanksgiving when Marcus Paul passed away and he

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Speaker 1: we ran into each other. He was going to rich

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Speaker 1: Dalrymple's office, and it was like, I thought I'd go

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Speaker 1: through the whole season without ever bumping into you again,

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Speaker 1: and that was the only time. So he decided, I

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Speaker 1: guess to do it again this year. And you know,

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Speaker 1: just like Jason Garrett, you know, these coaches have an

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Speaker 1: image when they're in front of the camera and an

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Speaker 1: you get him in a setting like that, he's just

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Speaker 1: a normal guy. He's just he talked about his family,

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Speaker 1: the kids starting school today, and you know, because he's

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Speaker 1: got everybody back together now because last year they didn't,

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Speaker 1: of the school season. Wow, it's no different than at

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Speaker 1: training camp in Austin when Jimmy would go across the

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Speaker 1: office the three Beat writers, right, and just that was

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Speaker 1: our one session a week. So we got to know him.

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Speaker 1: And I knew him when he was at Oklahoma State.

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Speaker 1: But in ninety three, so his guys left, wants dat

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Speaker 1: got the head coaching job with the Bears, Tony Wise

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Speaker 1: went with him. Those were his guys, right, He'd go

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Speaker 1: out and they'd have Heinekens and whatever. So he had rich.

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Speaker 1: He said, you know what, we need to get together

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Speaker 1: with the guys, get about a hit or ten of him.

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Speaker 1: So he got a bunch of us and we went

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Speaker 1: to one of the Mexican restaurants right across the street

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Speaker 1: from No No. This one was the one closer downtown.

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Speaker 1: It was a high rise Mexican restaurant, like two floors, right, yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So we're in this we're on this big table and

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Speaker 1: he just wants to, you know, shoot the s and

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Speaker 1: uh the Mariachi band's plan and we can't hear each other, right,

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Speaker 1: So Jimmy goes, wait a minute, wait, let me take

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Speaker 1: hands him one hundred dollar bill and says, just just

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Speaker 1: don't don't play for an hour, paying you not. And

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Speaker 1: shot the Breeze with him and yeah, and it's like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's the Jimmy, you know. But he would do that

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Speaker 1: also that like like on a rig on a normal

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Speaker 1: Tuesday at training camp, the team is eating dinner or whatever,

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Speaker 1: and they're going into meetings and Jimmy would go across

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Speaker 1: the street, um there were there was a Mexican food

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Speaker 1: and but but the point is, if these writers are

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Speaker 1: critical and they're a lot less critical of you if

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Speaker 1: you befriend them. Is this the previous of every NFL coach,

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Speaker 1: just the ones that come to Dallas. Didn't McCarthy do

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Speaker 1: this when he was in Green Bay? I don't know that,

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Speaker 1: but I was told, like in that January meeting last year,

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Speaker 1: how did it go? And I had said, this was

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Speaker 1: he ain't changes. That's right, that's that's you know there.

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Speaker 1: It's not their obligation to tell us everything. Right. But

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Speaker 1: and he just has to carry on that persona with

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Speaker 1: just a little bit. I'm sure that doesn't work all

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Speaker 1: the time. He wants he has to come out, come

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Speaker 1: on a certain way with his players. It's just the

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Speaker 1: way it is. You can be nice to him all

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Speaker 1: gotta make that speech, right, you know, like the speech

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Speaker 1: he made in training camp. There are times when all

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Speaker 1: bs aside, you know, none of this on the on

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Speaker 1: the film, none of this, these hand games and things

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Speaker 1: of that nature. I have something serious to share with you.

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Speaker 1: And by the way they dogged him on his uh

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Speaker 1: for momentum, so we need to have a sense of urgency. Basically,

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Speaker 1: that's what it was. He was telling them that they

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Speaker 1: and it's like, we can't listen to this game, so

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Speaker 1: you got to do something to grab their attention right

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Speaker 1: off the start. You know. We we spoke with John

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Speaker 1: Fossil today, one of the coordinators, and of course they

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Speaker 1: asked him about hard knocks and the vast second. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: He's just like, yeah, his dad would come with silly stories.

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Speaker 1: they came to him and said, hey, coaches, this is okay, right,

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Speaker 1: and he said, I'll check out that. So he said

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Speaker 1: she was like, you know, we've been through this before

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Speaker 1: Go with it right. Let him let him know it's

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Speaker 1: already been made public. Anyway. I'm sure they've done they

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Speaker 1: had done previous interviews about it a made statement, So

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Speaker 1: next meeting they're gonna talk football, but they're going okay,

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Speaker 1: coaches kind of like us. He's just human, right, and

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Speaker 1: and I think that the head coaches have to work

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Speaker 1: know Marinelli, his defensive meetings. To get those guys attention,

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Speaker 1: he would have the people in our TV department put

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Speaker 1: together a presentation and it might be a wildlife presentation

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Speaker 1: of lions in the wild and eating whatever, you know,

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Speaker 1: and and attacking other animals just to get their attention. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and that's a common thing that among coaches they do.

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Speaker 1: In fact, McCarthy does the same thing. And that's what

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Speaker 1: he's going you're talking about, Tom Ladie didn't do that.

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Speaker 1: He didn't know anything about our feelings, right, He didn't

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Speaker 1: tell us about his persecondy Gene Starlin's Allie did was

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Speaker 1: just cuss you out all the time if you pissed

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Speaker 1: him off, because it chapped his ass. That's it was

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Speaker 1: his favorite term. It just chapps my head. Well, y'all

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Speaker 1: could practice longer back. Yeah, thank you. Yeah, they get that.

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Speaker 1: They get us a favorite, right, you didn't have a

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Speaker 1: shot clock, right, yeah, you know. And and so before

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Speaker 1: need to but they still have hope for that and

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Speaker 1: it's a good way for him to understand the timing

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Speaker 1: game at the end of the game. I think I

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Speaker 1: still remember writing down one oh five, and I think

431
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Speaker 1: that's what it was, one oh five. And I said

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Speaker 1: to myself out loud, well whatever, I said, way too

433
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Speaker 1: much time, right, and you're you're exactly right. But from

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys standpoint, I think from the coaching staff, from

435
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Speaker 1: what I heard, they counted that sack to his credit. Okay,

436
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Speaker 1: because it didn't have that you know what the false

437
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Speaker 1: start was. I wouldn't back and looked at it. It

438
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Speaker 1: was almost like the guy in the slot took a

439
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Speaker 1: deep breath, like if you went like that. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he did not move forward. His body just kind of

441
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Speaker 1: relaxed backwards and there and I did anybody. I couldn't.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't see the all twenty two because I couldn't

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Speaker 1: see when the flag came out because a lot of

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Speaker 1: times these officials times they replayed in their mind. No,

445
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Speaker 1: but you know what happened. I think the guy the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys slot corner and the safety pointed just like that.

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Speaker 1: And the key on the sack is did did who

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Speaker 1: Kamara was going up against it? He quitn't know, That's

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Speaker 1: the whole He didn't. He didn't see them flag, so

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Speaker 1: the offensive line. So I'm marking him down for a

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Speaker 1: SA couldn't tell your story. That's a count because it was.

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Speaker 1: It was a good story, and I don't know that

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Speaker 1: a lot of people I didn't know about it. I

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Speaker 1: didn't know what it was. And he was on the

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Speaker 1: I R all last year with See, this's the kind

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Speaker 1: of thing I was talking about when they brought the

457
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Speaker 1: zoom to the draft and you saw, you know, he's

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Speaker 1: the family, the parents. You know they're doing the best

459
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Speaker 1: they can. You know, your invite them into your home.

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Speaker 1: The home doesn't look that great. You can tell that struggling.

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Speaker 1: You can tell there, you know, economically, uh, struggling, that's

462
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Speaker 1: the kind of stuff you don't you don't need to

463
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Speaker 1: hear the story. Yeah, that's why I thought that was cool.

464
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Speaker 1: You can see the story right there, Zach, this kid

465
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Speaker 1: is not dressed up in the suit. They didn't go,

466
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Speaker 1: you know, get some agent that that fronted them, somebody

467
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Speaker 1: for the brand new custom fit suit. These guys are

468
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Speaker 1: sitting in their houses with their parents who have struggled

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Speaker 1: their asses off to keep him where he is right now.

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Speaker 1: And that's the reason. He said to me. That had

471
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Speaker 1: even more of an impact than to see the guys

472
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473
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Speaker 1: I love the hard knocks showing the family and I

474
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Speaker 1: guess maybe and his sister, uh talking to the mom saying, look,

475
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Speaker 1: she can't take the smile off her face. She's watching

476
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Speaker 1: the play. You know that almost what you just said

477
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Speaker 1: about zooming in, it's almost uh reminiscent of the first

478
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479
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Speaker 1: ESPN into the draft room, right into the war room,

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Speaker 1: and you got to actually seem kind of now, they

481
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Speaker 1: didn't reveal anything intimately that would hurt the team, but

482
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Speaker 1: you got to see kind of the eye It was

483
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Speaker 1: eye opening. It was open because no one has any idea.

484
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Speaker 1: Somebody asked me one day, you've been in the war room,

485
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Speaker 1: I said, They would have shot me if I walked

486
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Speaker 1: in the wall room, right, and here they are. There

487
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Speaker 1: were heads of high hanging on the wall because back

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Speaker 1: at the ranch they had that scouting room, right, and

489
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Speaker 1: they had their big board up there. So not only

490
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Speaker 1: they had their big board for their players like which

492
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493
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Speaker 1: that was protected like Fort Knox. Well, they might have

494
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Speaker 1: up there whose trade bait? Right, So yeah, I think

495
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Speaker 1: about that'd be all revealed. You don't want to see,

496
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Speaker 1: they know, and none of a sudden they're letting the

497
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Speaker 1: camera in there because they used to have there was

498
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Speaker 1: a and I want to see. It wasn't obvious, but

499
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Speaker 1: it was an armed guard standing out that wow, out

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Speaker 1: that scouting department. And you got to know that all

501
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Speaker 1: the other teams around the NFL were thinking, man, Jerry's

502
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503
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505
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Speaker 1: gonna last. And now look at it. It's the norm.

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Speaker 1: You know, here he is. You hadn't had a hadn't

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Speaker 1: these are the old ones on he sounded very fluid.

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Speaker 1: don't think that. Did you have to read for him

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Speaker 1: at the eye doctor. Oh, you gotta gotta get those

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Speaker 1: read full sentences, paragraphs, got to get those lines, those letters.

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Speaker 1: He's not cross anymore. Let's get okay, So Mickey, you

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Speaker 1: read that great? Now can you read the new kickers

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Speaker 1: name for us larum hi wu lahu? Very good? That

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Speaker 1: was smooth. It's actually pretty simple once you Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: don't sound sound you know, they're silent. Right, here's a

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Speaker 1: j there's a jai. It's a soft jai. No, well,

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Speaker 1: but it's got an a before it didn't have an i.

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Speaker 1: It's pronounced high but it's h a J. Yeah it

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Speaker 1: you go. As so why are we talking about we

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Speaker 1: talking about this guy. The Cowboys worked him out today

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Speaker 1: came up with a back issue. Uh and he wouldn't

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Speaker 1: have been able to kick on Saturday. So they needed

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Speaker 1: somebody to kick. They didn't want Steve Zirline to start

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Speaker 1: until next or Greg'slin, Greg, Steve, is there a Steve

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Speaker 1: I guarantee you. We do not want Steve Berlin. So

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Speaker 1: so they needed somebody to kick. So this guy's been

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Speaker 1: kicking around. Uh. He was in The Rams had him

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Speaker 1: and then I think it will scared. The Rams had

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Speaker 1: him last and he got beat out by Sloman uh

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Speaker 1: last year for the kicking job, and then he kicked

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Speaker 1: in some spring league. Uh and uh he's been but

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Speaker 1: but you should listen. Now you listen, you need to

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Speaker 1: listen to the call of the game because the guy

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Speaker 1: after he made it, he goes that was probably for

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Speaker 1: this Lion guy, the longest kicker ever to look at,

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Speaker 1: and yeah, the goalposts, right they what? I don't know?

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Speaker 1: I don't remember. Because they don't want field goals in

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Speaker 1: Canadian football, they want touchdowns. So now, okay, we're talked

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Speaker 1: about the pronunciation of his last name, but it sounds

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Speaker 1: like his first name is Lyrim And okay, well you

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Speaker 1: just said like it is lim. It's l I R

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Speaker 1: I M. Yeah, but lim. And most recently for the

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Speaker 1: on field goals eighty five and a half percent. And

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Speaker 1: a guy who can do both on the practice squad.

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Speaker 1: And so this is a great opportunity for near him

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Speaker 1: and what do you do? Yeah, and and think about

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Speaker 1: you better have a backup ready to go. But every

638
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 1: team in the league, one of those sixteen spots on

639
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 1: the practice squad needs to be for a guy who

640
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,760
Speaker 1: can kick, especially if he can do both. Yeah, Usually

641
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 1: the punter is used as a backup kicker because if

642
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,839
Speaker 1: you think about it, remember was it two years ago

643
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 1: when um oh I forgot the uh it was admirer

644
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 1: or the next guy was hurt and Jeff he go

645
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 1: out in the middle of the game and try to

646
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 1: kick extra points. But even more so now because I

647
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 1: mean you can wake up on Sunday morning and a

648
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 1: guy is out that's right, you know, Yeah, they have him.

649
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 1: There can't go out and sign him at the last minute. Yeah,

650
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 1: so anyway they made that. Plus you got to get

651
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 1: him through COVID protocol in order just to happen to

652
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 1: be ready. So I have a question, you know, you

653
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 1: the inside man spags all right, we did all of

654
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:21,840
Speaker 1: last year, even though we were zooming. And while Dak's

655
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 1: going through his surgery, I heard him say something extremely

656
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 1: interesting about his ankle surgery. The second one. Yeah, the

657
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 1: second one, he said. We kept that under wraps. They

658
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 1: did until I didn't know. I never can't remember if

659
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 1: it was the end of the season or it was

660
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 1: in It was in late December, okay, and I think

661
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 1: there was some swelling in there. So they went in

662
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 1: there and whatever they needed to do. Could you imagine

663
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,320
Speaker 1: if everyone knew that he was going to have a

664
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Speaker 1: second one, a second one before he went in. Could

665
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 1: you imagine the s show that you know least you know,

666
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 1: and let us let out around here. It would be crazy,

667
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 1: it would have been. If I would have known that,

668
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 1: I would have been extremely concerned about that, and it

669
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,439
Speaker 1: was more of a kind of a clean up thing. Yeah,

670
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 1: but you wouldn't be able to ok that's what That's

671
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 1: what happened, and it was something that I think needed

672
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,919
Speaker 1: to be taken. What wasn't Wasn't it something that they

673
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 1: thought they might have to do anyway, And we'll just

674
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 1: see where you are at that point. And sure enough,

675
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 1: he was at that point where they needed to go

676
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 1: ahead and do it in a timely fashion too, because

677
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 1: of course that makes he had time to heal. But

678
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 1: again it pushed back his rehab right, and that's what

679
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,879
Speaker 1: I think he was time to heal by by a march.

680
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 1: You know, he very contract done. He was very cheeky

681
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 1: on on that first show. It was just we talked

682
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 1: about it Tuesday, but he was so cheeky on that

683
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 1: first show. And as you think about it, sometimes you

684
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 1: have to save the players from themselves. Yeah, you know,

685
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 1: because he's out there, you know, he's really fussing and

686
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 1: just you know, whining really about not getting enough. We

687
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 1: have to get it. Then all of a sudden he

688
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 1: goes out there like, oh you know, and he feels it, Okay,

689
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,399
Speaker 1: what's going on, Oh he can't follow through hurts. Well, yeah,

690
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:14,240
Speaker 1: it's because he's been throwing like a madman. He's probably

691
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 1: throwing in the hospital. You know, come on, well you

692
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 1: heard him. He was sitting, he was sitting on a

693
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,839
Speaker 1: chair throwing when he when he couldn't stand up. Yeah, so,

694
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 1: but it was it was one throw that ended up doing.

695
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 1: And speaking of Dak, so he's not playing on Saturday.

696
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 1: He didn't do anything to suggest he would in practice

697
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,839
Speaker 1: yesterday and it was a really good practice. But he

698
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 1: did everything until they started doing team stuff, competitive stuff,

699
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:44,840
Speaker 1: and they said, nah, he if they were playing Sunday,

700
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 1: he'd be ready to go. Now they just don't want

701
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 1: the risk to play in a preseason game. And Mike

702
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 1: had priviley said if he doesn't play in the third one,

703
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 1: he's not playing in the fourth one because that's for

704
00:38:56,000 --> 00:39:00,359
Speaker 1: the young guys. So sound he's not playing Saturday. So

705
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 1: he's basically going to go out there and the first

706
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 1: time in a game since October eleventh is going to

707
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 1: be against the world champion, the Bay Buccaneers. But also

708
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,359
Speaker 1: and not just and I was gonna say, and not

709
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 1: just him, but that means the whole offense is not

710
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 1: going to have a snap together until that first snap

711
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 1: in Tampa. So we don't look forward to Taylan, right,

712
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 1: we don't do we look forward to Martin? Do we

713
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 1: look forward to to Colin. Colin's maybe not now because

714
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,919
Speaker 1: he didn't finish practice yesterday. He had a little back

715
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 1: neck issue, So I would imagine they'll be very careful

716
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 1: for that. Was having the right, Yeah, No, it was

717
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 1: it was leal Um. They might put those guys out there.

718
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:46,360
Speaker 1: I mean, Zach they've really not messed around with because

719
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: he didn't do any team stuff yesterday either. H Tyrone

720
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 1: was out there, so they might put him like for

721
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 1: a series or two, just to give Garrett Gilbert a chance.

722
00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:02,399
Speaker 1: Because teams just don't have enough backups on the offensive line.

723
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 1: And I've said this forever, that's why these these alternative

724
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 1: leagues fail because there's not enough offensive linemen to go

725
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 1: around tackles, and especially the tackles. And I know we

726
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 1: want our lineman to be ready, otherwise our running backs

727
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 1: don't have a chance. But man Zeke looks good, yes,

728
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 1: and so looks good Man. So what what McCarthy was

729
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 1: trying to impress on everybody was we've got to go

730
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 1: through the practice process, and we got to trust the

731
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 1: practice process right that they'll be ready. Dack will be

732
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 1: ready because that's how we're practicing, right. And so I

733
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,359
Speaker 1: got the end of my column last night, and I

734
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 1: was like, well, we're going to test the old adage

735
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 1: that practice makes perfect. That's a good one. Let me

736
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 1: say something. I'm not sure that. I'm not sure that

737
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 1: this is a good way to go. No, well, I'm

738
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 1: really not sure about that. But and then this is

739
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 1: old school talking, I know, because I know I have

740
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 1: to get out there and get my timing down. I

741
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 1: remember held out after nineteen eighty five seasons. So we're

742
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 1: going into eighty six and we played against the Giants

743
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 1: first game like Sunday night, I think, and I was okay,

744
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 1: but I held out the entire training camp and I

745
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,760
Speaker 1: only had like maybe two or three days preparation before

746
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 1: the opening game, and I did not feel well about it.

747
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 1: I didn't feel comfortable about it. It played okay, but

748
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 1: I know I would have played better if I only

749
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 1: had one back that game. Well, I don't know what.

750
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 1: I don't know. I would affected the rest of the team.

751
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,280
Speaker 1: But if I remember the first meeting against the Giants

752
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 1: in eighty six, you guys won, Yeah we did win,

753
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:38,399
Speaker 1: but defensively we sucked. Yeah, yeah, we gave up too

754
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 1: many points defensively. Well, not just not just my fault.

755
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:46,439
Speaker 1: So just just but because you had at the halfway point,

756
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 1: you had the number one offense, it didn't matter, right,

757
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 1: you just sound that story people. But here's the thing though,

758
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 1: once again Zeke looking yes, really really good, right, And

759
00:41:56,719 --> 00:42:00,040
Speaker 1: those film clips on hard knocks are not deceptive that

760
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 1: he was been like. You can't fake that for three weeks.

761
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 1: You can't fake it. And I also can't fake say

762
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 1: I saw somebody say, oh, Zeke knew he's miked up.

763
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 1: That's why he's acting like the way he's that goofy

764
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 1: all the time, right, that's why I got in trouble. Yeah,

765
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 1: that's yeah. Somebody asked somebody asked Malite Cooker because Hooker

766
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 1: was from Ohio State and I think he probably Zeke's

767
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 1: senior year, that might have been his second year, and

768
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 1: they asked him, you know, was he he goes, well,

769
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 1: I'm sure he matured a little because but he was

770
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 1: that goofy back at Ohio State and kind of like

771
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 1: a kid bouncing off the walls all the time. Right,

772
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:45,839
Speaker 1: But that's him, you know, the deal about the powder

773
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 1: and the hot dog and you know, just being just goofy. Yeah,

774
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 1: rapping the president, Rapping the president that was remas look

775
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 1: my mind still, that's right, that's right. Um. You know,

776
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 1: to your point on on Zeke, when I got out

777
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 1: to training camp and I saw him the first couple

778
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 1: of practices, I said the exact same. I said, WHOA, Okay,

779
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 1: he's good, he's good to go. Let's get he won't

780
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 1: need a big hole. Let's get to give him. It's

781
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 1: getting to Sevember nine, and and so I and I

782
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 1: think in the first episode of Hard Knocks they may

783
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 1: have talked about it. H McCarthy like, okay, yeah, we're

784
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 1: here talking with Jerry st st Stephen who was Stephen.

785
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:33,839
Speaker 1: They were mostly talking about that. Now, there was one

786
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 1: point they were talking about Zeke and I was like,

787
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 1: and I was thinking, not just preseason games, I'm going

788
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 1: in practice, can you just get let him run on

789
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 1: the side, And could you imagine if we used him

790
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:48,839
Speaker 1: as that weapon down the field, passing it to him

791
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 1: as a receiver. He's got that ability. Yeah. And you know,

792
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 1: like you said, you don't want to show how he

793
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 1: ended up wide open going down the middle, right, you know,

794
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 1: we don't want to show what that play was giving

795
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,760
Speaker 1: the tail end of that one, because that was clearly

796
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 1: something that they need to work on and they're going

797
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 1: to use that play oh, hep kids. And that reminded

798
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 1: me of the pregame interview I did with McCarthy and

799
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:12,720
Speaker 1: I said something about Michael Parsons and I said, gosh,

800
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 1: you're using them so many different ways. Um, you know,

801
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 1: how's he handed it all that? And he goes, well, now, Mick,

802
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 1: that's given away some secrets and so we know he's

803
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 1: going to be all over and then he answered the question. Right,

804
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 1: I think it doesn't take a genius to figure out

805
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 1: they're gonna they're going to use him in a variety.

806
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 1: That's why I've quit calling him a lineback, glidenbacker, Michael Parsons.

807
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 1: It's football player from Michael player. That's it. He's all

808
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 1: over the place and and good and he's handling, you know.

809
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 1: And that's was one of the things dan Quinn continues

810
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 1: to point out, and he did it again to day

811
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 1: about giving guys a heck of a lot to do

812
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 1: and then I find out what they can do and

813
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:59,800
Speaker 1: what they can Shame on me if they can't do

814
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:01,879
Speaker 1: and I'm asking them to do it in a game.

815
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:05,320
Speaker 1: Who does that say about last year? Yeah? Right? Because

816
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 1: I mean, we constantly saw the same thing week after week,

817
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 1: so obviously no one was trying to realize what was

818
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 1: being retained. Yeah, yeah, okay, we got one more segment

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00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:19,080
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820
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:23,000
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821
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:27,480
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Speaker 1: the pregame show. This is a pregame show for Saturday

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Speaker 1: night when the Houston Texans come to town and give

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Speaker 1: me a question that you would like to see answered

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00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 1: on Saturday Night. I would like to see answered with

874
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 1: Neville Gallimore out four to six with the dislocated elbow,

875
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 1: if they've got somebody to take that spot, because I

876
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 1: think that is a huge vacancy at this point. Neville

877
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 1: Gallimore was playing awfully well in his second year. So

878
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 1: who's going to step up to take that three technique.

879
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:50,359
Speaker 1: The first guy they've been using is their third round

880
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 1: draft choice, osa odiggy Zua, and they're pretty on him,

881
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 1: but again, now what can he do? And he'll be

882
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:02,360
Speaker 1: numbers seven five out there, so you'll be able to

883
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:04,320
Speaker 1: see him. He's going to take those reps with the

884
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 1: first team. I thought he did, and and so they're

885
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 1: they're kind of high on him. They need him to

886
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 1: come through. The other guy dan Quinn mentioned, even though

887
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 1: it's not the same position, is Quentin Bohannah seventh six,

888
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 1: seventh row six. He's more yeah, and he's more of

889
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 1: a one technique, But as Quinn pointed out today, it's like, Okay,

890
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:31,880
Speaker 1: we could put him at the one technique because Carlos

891
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 1: Watkins has some ability to play the three um. The

892
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 1: other thing that Justin Hamilton is another guy that they

893
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 1: can rotate in there see what he can do, and

894
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 1: then in pass rush situations if they get Terrell Basham

895
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 1: back on the field. He's a defensive end, but he

896
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,359
Speaker 1: can move inside. He's big enough to do that too.

897
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 1: So they've got a couple of different ways they can

898
00:49:56,840 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 1: go at that position while waiting for Neville Gallimore. And

899
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 1: they got a decision there Bill to make. If you know,

900
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 1: can he can they put him on the fifty three

901
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:10,799
Speaker 1: for three more weeks and say, Okay, you'll be ready

902
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:12,799
Speaker 1: to go in game four, or do they put them

903
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 1: on fifty three and then the next day put him

904
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Speaker 1: on IR and all you got to do is miss

905
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:19,839
Speaker 1: three games and then you'd be ready the fourth week

906
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 1: if you're physically ready. So they got to do a

907
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 1: little bit of roster massage at that position. And the

908
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:29,839
Speaker 1: timing of the injury. Okay, it happened to a week ago.

909
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,840
Speaker 1: Basically last a week ago, so we're one week into it.

910
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 1: Dislocated elbow in six weeks four to six, four to six,

911
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 1: So even if it's six and we're three weeks right now,

912
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 1: we're three weeks from the opener, so you'd be at

913
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 1: four weeks at Tampa Bay. Right, all right, then you

914
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 1: got at the Chargers then home against Philadelphia, and I

915
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 1: would say, you go, ir, you probably because let them

916
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,839
Speaker 1: have that because even even if it's healed or after

917
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 1: you're off that time gonna need a wink to get

918
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 1: it back in shape and then a week to get

919
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 1: ready for the next game. Right. So yeah, when he

920
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 1: came in, you know, they said he was quicker, and

921
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 1: he had a great offseason. Yes, he was one of

922
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 1: the winners of the offseason workout program. Um, so you know,

923
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:24,479
Speaker 1: I hate that man. And then that that happens, he'll

924
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 1: be he'll be salivating when he comes back. Yeah. Absolutely,

925
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 1: So that'll be my first one along those lines. I mean,

926
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:33,799
Speaker 1: like nice wander. I mean, he's having a nice camp.

927
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:36,319
Speaker 1: You know, he's so and now he's he comes up

928
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:39,839
Speaker 1: with an injury and at the timing of it, at

929
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 1: this time of the year, you have an injury and

930
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:44,759
Speaker 1: for roster reasons, they got a waving injured and they

931
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 1: will put him on IR and he's out for the year. Alua,

932
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 1: the fullback he had, he really showed something in that

933
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:56,320
Speaker 1: first game as an injury for the year. Was his offseason,

934
00:51:57,080 --> 00:52:01,399
Speaker 1: I tried, Yeah, So speaking of a lot Honolua. Uh.

935
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 1: Nick Ralston from our guyle down down the road here

936
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 1: a little bit high school. Uh, he's the loan fullback

937
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 1: on the team now, and they're going to give him

938
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 1: an opportunity. John Fossil was talking about his special teams

939
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:19,240
Speaker 1: play and for the for basically to convince them that, okay,

940
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:22,399
Speaker 1: you'd like to keep a fullback, this kid can play

941
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:24,919
Speaker 1: special teams. And he had two tackles. Again, he played

942
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 1: a little linebacker at Arizona State too. Yeah, and he

943
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 1: had Fossil talked about the one tackle he made. He said,

944
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 1: this was an offensive guy, you know, a fullback, and

945
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:39,239
Speaker 1: he shed two blocks to go bust through and make

946
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 1: that tackle. He said, so we're gonna see if you know,

947
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 1: can he can he help us on special teams? You

948
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 1: know who he tackled? Who is a tackle? That? Eno Benjamin?

949
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I was on the on the opening kickoff

950
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 1: of the second half. He went down and made the tackle.

951
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 1: It was a really good tackle. What you're talking about.

952
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:58,800
Speaker 1: Eno Benjamin was the running back at Arizona State, and

953
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 1: Ralston says, lead blocker for three years. Very nice. Right.

954
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 1: So So anyway, buddy, how you doing good? In the

955
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:15,400
Speaker 1: Arizona game, they used him in some fullback situations near

956
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 1: the gold line or whatever, and so let's see what happens. Yeah,

957
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,719
Speaker 1: a good block on Zavian Collins, first round draftick linebacker

958
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:24,320
Speaker 1: on what you like going into the draft for the

959
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:26,760
Speaker 1: Cowboys a matter of fact. So yeah, let's see what happens.

960
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 1: And you know, it's another good uh hard knocks story.

961
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 1: You know, local kid, undrafted rookie we know about on

962
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 1: the traffick. I don't want to. I want to, and

963
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:38,800
Speaker 1: nobody asks, but I was waiting on Bible to ask me.

964
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 1: But I want to see a better passing game. Okay,

965
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 1: And it's not just coming from Gilbert. That's not really

966
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 1: the points not really about how they protect. I want

967
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 1: to see without backup while receivers can really really do it.

968
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:56,400
Speaker 1: I haven't been too impressed with any of them, except

969
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 1: for the kid from Stanford Hoko. Yeah, he's been doing

970
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 1: very well. Trying to see what kind of backup tight

971
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 1: ends we have, you know, just you know, is there

972
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:08,439
Speaker 1: anything there? You know that I mean, if you can't

973
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 1: even show for this game, you can show for what

974
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 1: do you hear on a team in case you get cut?

975
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 1: What are you hearing on Sean McEwan as far as

976
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 1: high ankle. Yeah, so that's at least he showed something

977
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 1: eighty four if he got hurt in the game the

978
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 1: other night, if not four weeks. So that gives an

979
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 1: opportunity to Jeremy Sprinkle eighty seven because if they decide

980
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 1: that maybe McCann has to go on you know, returnable

981
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 1: I R, then they'll need a third tight end. By

982
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:39,280
Speaker 1: the way, it's qwan mckewan. It spelled. It's spelled McKeon.

983
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 1: Here we go, it's give mc capital k e o N.

984
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 1: How do you get mqwan out of that? I don't know,

985
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 1: but that's where it is. Yeah, I gotta be at

986
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 1: U in that somewhere. Yeah, but but even some I

987
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 1: keep getting this. I keep telling this receiver it's Brown

988
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 1: eighty five, Brown Brown. I want to see him do better.

989
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 1: I want to see him really show. Okay, I'm out

990
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:05,319
Speaker 1: here with these backups. I want him to play as

991
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:09,279
Speaker 1: a guy that's playing against backups, and and he's he's

992
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 1: probably considered the fifth guy. Uh And you know, hanging

993
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 1: on to me looks like hanging on by It used

994
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 1: to be all over them because every time somebody'd ask

995
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 1: about Noah Brown and they'd say, well, he's a good blocker,

996
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 1: and it's like, I don't want my wide receiver to

997
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 1: be a good blocker, right, I'll put another tight end

998
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:30,399
Speaker 1: out there. Well, he probably didn't like it either, because

999
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 1: he lost weight less, he reshaped his body. He looked

1000
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 1: like a wide receiver. He's faster. Now, he's got to

1001
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 1: be a little bit more insertive to get because that

1002
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:42,320
Speaker 1: because you mentioned Bill Fioko or you you didn't. And

1003
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, if you're only keeping five, maybe that

1004
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:48,840
Speaker 1: fifth one. So I'm telling he's hanging on will be

1005
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 1: he is Money's exactly, it'll be at least one point.

1006
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:57,840
Speaker 1: When they drafted him, I had a feeling that this

1007
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:01,320
Speaker 1: would be a matchup between these two guys. And so

1008
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 1: now if you're talking rookie money, six hundred thousand compared

1009
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 1: to one point two two point one, so you better

1010
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:11,319
Speaker 1: make it worth your while. Yeah, and then special teams

1011
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 1: will come in because he's a good Noah's a good

1012
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 1: special teams player. So do you do I convince them

1013
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 1: that I'm the fifth or do I convince them that

1014
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 1: you need to keep six wide receivers? So, yeah, I

1015
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:26,959
Speaker 1: think the first four spots are pretty much taken because

1016
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 1: Cedric Wilson is. I think he's really good as your

1017
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 1: fourth receivers and he helps you on special teams. Right

1018
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 1: except when you call an end the round? Yeah, what

1019
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 1: fault man? Let it go, Stags, let it go. That

1020
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 1: is throw the ball. So yeah, that's a that's a

1021
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 1: good spot to look at. Now they're going to continue

1022
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:53,399
Speaker 1: giving Connor Williams some snaps at center in this game. Um,

1023
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:55,800
Speaker 1: you know, I think they like the way he's handling

1024
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:58,840
Speaker 1: everything else. But if you can't snap the ball, you

1025
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 1: can't play that. Let me clarify something. Now. The two

1026
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:07,719
Speaker 1: point one millions on one who Brown? No, no, no,

1027
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 1: he's he's got a I just looked it up. He's

1028
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 1: a one year, one point one two seven million dollars deal.

1029
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 1: He didn't he was not a restrict He's in his

1030
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 1: fifth year strictly, No, he's in his fifth year. And

1031
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 1: so they signed that is and yeah, there you go,

1032
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 1: and so and that is a huge deal. Uh, and

1033
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 1: very smart on Noah Brown's part to keep his salary

1034
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 1: down in a range to where he will be Yeah, yeah,

1035
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 1: you want to make that extra million dollar, but you

1036
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:38,440
Speaker 1: want to make the team. Does he does? You want

1037
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 1: to get the first one point one million is guarantee?

1038
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 1: Is uh? Guaranteed at signing one hundred thirty seven thousand

1039
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 1: total guaranteed one hundred and thirty seven. So they basically

1040
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 1: gave him the veteran exception. Yeah, because that means he

1041
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 1: doesn't count as much against the cap as it as

1042
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:58,360
Speaker 1: it chose because they gave him the minimum signing bonus. Yeah,

1043
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 1: this cap hits nine eighty seven. They have done him

1044
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 1: a favor. Yeah, right, himself a fair and it shows

1045
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 1: that they value him on special teams to get They

1046
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 1: wanted to make it manageable to where we want to

1047
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 1: keep you right. So but anyway, go back to the

1048
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 1: center spot. You know, they they just want to give

1049
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 1: Connor Williams needs snaps. He's never played the position before,

1050
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 1: so now can can he? Can he do it? They'll

1051
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 1: give him people coming in looking differently. Does he look stronger? Yes?

1052
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 1: Because he needed to. Yes, And I think he has

1053
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 1: uh and and I think it shows that his left

1054
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:38,479
Speaker 1: guard spot because people wanted to continue to say, wow,

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Speaker 1: there's there's competition for that starting spot. He's got that

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00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 1: turning spot and he's not competing with uh the idest

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00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 1: for center. He's only problem at center is he can't snap.

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00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, but not nice position. That's like he

1059
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:58,160
Speaker 1: didn't if he didn't have to snap, he could play center.

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00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 1: He just can we do like we did on the

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00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 1: field and just hand the ball back. So they're gonna

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00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:09,440
Speaker 1: continue to try that because really the alternatives on this

1063
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:15,560
Speaker 1: roster I don't think are here, uh Fiarco, Farney, Farniac flows,

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00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 1: I gotto, he's reading better, boy, you read better. Put

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00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 1: it in front of him, man, you know. And I

1066
00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 1: think we talked about this at training camp. I think

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00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 1: one of the reasons that they like the idea of

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00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 1: Connor Williams playing center if he could snap, is from

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00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 1: a mental standpoint. Now in his fourth year in the league,

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00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 1: he can make the calls and all that right stuff,

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00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 1: and so that another reason why he was a good

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00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:46,640
Speaker 1: candidate for that spot. And he's been in the league

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00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:49,760
Speaker 1: and he been through it. McGovern just played a little

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00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 1: bit last year and that was really his first year

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00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:55,480
Speaker 1: to play. But not only does Connor Williams have to

1076
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:57,440
Speaker 1: work on his strength, he's got to work on his

1077
00:59:57,520 --> 01:00:00,360
Speaker 1: footwork because you could just see it land this year

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01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 1: he just didn't seem to be first of all, strong

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01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 1: enough to withstand the moves, and secondly, he just didn't

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01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:12,320
Speaker 1: seem to react well with his feet when the pressure

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01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 1: became too much for him to bear. Because sometimes when

1082
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 1: it comes down to it, if you can work that footwork,

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01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:19,920
Speaker 1: that will put you in position to where you don't

1084
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:22,240
Speaker 1: have to worry about all the hand fighting as much,

1085
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 1: right because you're already in position and you gain leverage

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01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 1: on him. So that brings us to tie Nasecki as

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01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:31,320
Speaker 1: the backup swing tackle, the veteran guy who's thirty six,

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01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:36,280
Speaker 1: and I think he's got something to prove still, and

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01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:40,080
Speaker 1: so keep an eye on that because it's last kind

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01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:42,920
Speaker 1: of a week and a half of practice. When they

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01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:46,480
Speaker 1: couldn't went to the seconds. He had been at left tackle,

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01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:49,280
Speaker 1: Terren Steele was at right tackle. Well, they flipped him,

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01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:53,280
Speaker 1: so I think they're trying to see Terrence Steele play

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01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 1: left tackle. What was his grade? How did he grade out? Naski, Oh,

1095
01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 1: I don't know in the game how he graded out.

1096
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 1: But he was the one that caused problems at the

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01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:05,840
Speaker 1: goal line against Pittsburgh when they moved down there and

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01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:08,680
Speaker 1: there was a sack. Well, it was his guy, and

1099
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 1: the next play on third down, it was his guy

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01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:14,920
Speaker 1: that caused Gilbert to have to throw the ball haphazardly.

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01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 1: How long do you want Gilbert to play this week?

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01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 1: I give him a half half, But that depends on

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01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:24,600
Speaker 1: who I've got on the offensive line, right, I can

1104
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 1: give him a half. I can't hit him back up play.

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01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:31,080
Speaker 1: He hadn't played who's on the line. I mean seriously

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01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 1: outside of the game against Pittsburgh last year. He hasn't

1107
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:38,240
Speaker 1: played since SMU, which is like a decade ago, right, right,

1108
01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:41,560
Speaker 1: I mean that was his first NFL start. Yeah, in

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01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:46,200
Speaker 1: the NFL. Right, he played in other places in ten years. Hey,

1110
01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:51,600
Speaker 1: not really. I don't know about his preseason, but well

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01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:54,520
Speaker 1: he played. Nobody played preseason games last year, so he

1112
01:01:54,680 --> 01:02:00,160
Speaker 1: played in that played games. He played four games were

1113
01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:03,800
Speaker 1: the Orlando Apollo and then the season XL. And actually

1114
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:06,080
Speaker 1: he was playing well, he was. They went first place.

1115
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 1: I don't know that who cares he? So there's there's

1116
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:18,960
Speaker 1: some things that for sure, probably look at the other guy,

1117
01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:21,960
Speaker 1: Jabil Cox, because he's starting to get it. Their fourth

1118
01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:25,200
Speaker 1: round pick, the linebacker from Ellen. He's one of my favorites. Uh,

1119
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:28,360
Speaker 1: he's starting to pick up the pace. So see, you know,

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01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:32,200
Speaker 1: if he can move into some rotation with all those linebackers,

1121
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:35,600
Speaker 1: they're trying to get on the field in different ways. Um.

1122
01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:38,600
Speaker 1: And then Malie Cooker, you know he's gonna play. Now,

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01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 1: let's see how far along he is. Uh, coming back

1124
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:45,360
Speaker 1: from you know, that's two two guys coming back from Achilles.

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Speaker 1: What I always said, you did a good job. I

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01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:52,520
Speaker 1: already said that Tuesday did a great job. But you did.

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01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:54,760
Speaker 1: You did a great job, even with Babe being there.

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Speaker 1: How you did that? So my question is, um, what

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01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:03,720
Speaker 1: did Babe have to say about de Nucci's performance, because

1130
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:07,200
Speaker 1: he was a bit critical doing the game. Yeah, he um,

1131
01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:10,400
Speaker 1: and he was correct in some of his Uh. I

1132
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:12,760
Speaker 1: haven't asked him about the Nucci, but I did talk

1133
01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:15,320
Speaker 1: to him today and he's he thought Gilbert took a

1134
01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:17,800
Speaker 1: step back last week. I thought I didn't think the

1135
01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:20,360
Speaker 1: Nucci made any ground. Yeah, I really did throw a

1136
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:25,960
Speaker 1: touchdown pass. Okay, okay, I think it was just a

1137
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:31,120
Speaker 1: I'm still looking for the grown up because he still

1138
01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:34,200
Speaker 1: looks like his arm is a little too weak. Yeah,

1139
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:36,480
Speaker 1: he still looks like he's you know, he's not doesn't

1140
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:39,120
Speaker 1: have the NFL body there's nothing wrong with his arm.

1141
01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:44,959
Speaker 1: I think it's his emotion how quickly he recognizes things.

1142
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:48,720
Speaker 1: But the motion is he's throwing side ar yeah, all

1143
01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:51,120
Speaker 1: the time, way too much. And then the other part

1144
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:54,840
Speaker 1: is under pressure, he's got to step up to throw

1145
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:57,240
Speaker 1: the ball, even if he's gonna get hit. He's fading.

1146
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:00,560
Speaker 1: He stepped back, and you don't want to be thrown off.

1147
01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:03,040
Speaker 1: And that is almost like he's the point like this,

1148
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:05,680
Speaker 1: and you know what they I think it was on

1149
01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:08,640
Speaker 1: Hard Knocks when nus Meyer was talking to him and

1150
01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:11,640
Speaker 1: he was talking to him about your eyes. He goes,

1151
01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:14,320
Speaker 1: why are you looking over there? There's nothing there. You

1152
01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 1: were supposed to be looking here. And so those are

1153
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:19,280
Speaker 1: things that you know, a guy that hasn't played much

1154
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:22,840
Speaker 1: since college, you know, he's got to get snaps and

1155
01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:26,560
Speaker 1: so I'm sure they would like to give him a half.

1156
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:28,800
Speaker 1: I don't know what they're gonna do with Cooper Rush.

1157
01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:34,000
Speaker 1: I just think if if Gilbert's your backup Cooper Rush,

1158
01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:36,919
Speaker 1: you're wasting your time as the third guy. And nothing

1159
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:39,760
Speaker 1: against him, but that guy should be somebody that's young

1160
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:42,640
Speaker 1: that you're trying to develop. If you keep three right.

1161
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:47,160
Speaker 1: Otherwise Denucci, you put him on the practice squad depending

1162
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:49,520
Speaker 1: on what you need on the fifty three. You gotta

1163
01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:53,360
Speaker 1: keep three, right, But I would think somehow, some way, right,

1164
01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:56,640
Speaker 1: So yeah, I just want to see that kid play

1165
01:04:56,960 --> 01:04:59,720
Speaker 1: because he's you watching training camp. He can throw the

1166
01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:03,160
Speaker 1: BA and he can run, which you know there was

1167
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:05,920
Speaker 1: kind of Tony Romo's deal when he first got here.

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01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:08,600
Speaker 1: You know, Romo could run, he could throw it, but

1169
01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:14,840
Speaker 1: you never knew where he was throwing it. The defense did. Yeah, no, No,

1170
01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:17,600
Speaker 1: I mean I mean he would miss. He would miss

1171
01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 1: guys ten yards high sometimes right, and I could see.

1172
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:23,720
Speaker 1: So are you seeing are you saying that you see

1173
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:28,920
Speaker 1: some Tony Romo Innucia both played the same level of

1174
01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:33,560
Speaker 1: college football, both got in the league. Nucci played some

1175
01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:37,360
Speaker 1: major college football at and he and he transferred right

1176
01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:40,280
Speaker 1: and then he was one of those candidates to win

1177
01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:44,720
Speaker 1: the Walter Peyton Player of the Year one so um

1178
01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:48,120
Speaker 1: played the National Championship game. I mean, if the Cowboys

1179
01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:50,600
Speaker 1: had judged Romo the way he played in his first

1180
01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:57,280
Speaker 1: two preseason not even preseason practice training camp, he'd have

1181
01:05:57,320 --> 01:06:00,880
Speaker 1: been out because he wasn't accurate us and his arm

1182
01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:04,920
Speaker 1: and his coach didn't even back him. No, remember, you

1183
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:07,120
Speaker 1: guys will never win the championship with this guy. Yeah,

1184
01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:09,720
Speaker 1: so there's hope for Denucci, Yes, I think there is,

1185
01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:12,720
Speaker 1: But how long they can He reminds me there the

1186
01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:15,760
Speaker 1: way he talks, he reminds me he's got a confidence

1187
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:18,160
Speaker 1: level about him. That reminds me he's got to get

1188
01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:20,800
Speaker 1: another half. I think you're looking at Gilbert first half

1189
01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:24,760
Speaker 1: and then and regardless of what happens, this got the

1190
01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:26,720
Speaker 1: last game to this game, he's got the last game.

1191
01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:29,880
Speaker 1: Maybe you give give him the start in the last

1192
01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:32,400
Speaker 1: game and see what happens. But they got to find out.

1193
01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:35,920
Speaker 1: They got to know what Cooper Rush is, right, he's

1194
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:38,400
Speaker 1: been here. They got to know, but they don't know

1195
01:06:38,680 --> 01:06:42,720
Speaker 1: yet about so so that the determination they're making there

1196
01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:46,360
Speaker 1: is whether they keep three quarterbacks. Danucci's go on the

1197
01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:49,040
Speaker 1: practice squad, right, Okay, you're putting him on the procc.

1198
01:06:49,040 --> 01:06:51,000
Speaker 1: If he's on the practice squad, then they keep two

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01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:54,520
Speaker 1: on the fifty three. Okay. So you're not saying if

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01:06:54,560 --> 01:06:58,760
Speaker 1: you quarters right okay, yeah, right, yeah, okay, And it's

1201
01:06:58,880 --> 01:07:07,440
Speaker 1: den Rush Okay, yeah, okay, I think it's that's what McCarthy. Kay, Okay.

1202
01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:10,200
Speaker 1: That does it for this edition of mix shots. What

1203
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:11,800
Speaker 1: are we going to be back on? I think next

1204
01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:15,400
Speaker 1: week we were supposed to do Monday Wednesday Friday. Okay

1205
01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:21,360
Speaker 1: in our in the ration, all right, Monday Wednesday Friday,

1206
01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:26,160
Speaker 1: same battime, we hope, who knows what time ends, depends

1207
01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:29,520
Speaker 1: on the practice schedule. If they decide to practice next week,

1208
01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:32,840
Speaker 1: then we will go at two o'clock or okay, okay,

1209
01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:36,360
Speaker 1: all right, enjoy the game. We'll see a Monday Go Cowboys.

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