1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: Hi. This is Laura Vanderkam. I'm a mother of four, 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:08,479 Speaker 1: an author, journalist, and speaker. And this is Sarah Hart Hunger. 3 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:11,799 Speaker 1: I'm a mother of three, practicing physician and blogger. On 4 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: the side, we are two working parents who love our 5 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:17,920 Speaker 1: careers and our families. Welcome to best of both worlds. 6 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: Here we talk about how real women manage work, family, 7 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: and time for fun, from figuring out childcare to mapping 8 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: out long term career goals. We want you to get 9 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: the most out of life. Welcome to best of both worlds. 10 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:35,279 Speaker 1: This is Laura. This is episode one hundred and twenty one, 11 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:38,520 Speaker 1: which is airing in late November of twenty nineteen. We're 12 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: excited to welcome Molly Fletcher to the podcast today. She 13 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: was a sports agent for many years is now doing 14 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: a lot of keynotes, speaking and writing. It has a 15 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: book coming out in January called The Energy Clock, so 16 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: we're looking forward to talking with her about that. But first, Sarah, 17 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 1: what are things that you find energizing and things you 18 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 1: find draining? Because Molly's going to talk about how you 19 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: need to maximize the things that give us energy and 20 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 1: get rid of the drains. Well, you have the advantage 21 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: of having read her books, so I'm sure I'm going 22 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 1: to get all this wrong. Is there a right or wrong? 23 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, certainly I find workouts energizing, 24 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:23,399 Speaker 1: and I am an extrovert, so I see friends and 25 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: social events as fairly energizing. And I am always energized 26 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: by a new week, month, year, et cetera, anything new. 27 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: I also really like having my day's goals really clearly 28 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: laid out and selected with the right degree of challenge. 29 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 1: Too much is overwhelming and too little is just not 30 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 1: energizing enough. And then I also mentioned coffee because I mean, honestly, 31 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 1: in the afternoon, that's what it takes. It seems to 32 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: be what I need for energy. What about you, well, 33 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: same thing. I mean, workouts definitely add to my energy levels. 34 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: I like early morning reading sessions. Those kind of pump 35 00:01:57,960 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: me up for the day. I do like early morning 36 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: works sessions too, if I'm up early for some reason, 37 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: which lately it's been because I'm getting kicked in the 38 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:09,359 Speaker 1: ribcage at four or five am, so I just get 39 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: up do my work for a while. I love it, 40 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,239 Speaker 1: but it's quiet and I feel like I can crank 41 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 1: through all kinds of stuff, even though I'm not really 42 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:21,679 Speaker 1: a traditional mourning person, but yeah, getting outside getting fresh air. 43 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: I for last winter, I set a goal to get 44 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: outside for twenty minutes every day, which I know, living 45 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: in Florida doesn't sound that crazy, but when you're up 46 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: where it's sleeting and zero degrees, that takes a little 47 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 1: bit more gumption. But I just bought a lot of 48 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: good winter weather clothes, and I found that getting some sunlight, 49 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 1: getting some fresh air every day helped me feel so 50 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:48,519 Speaker 1: much less lethargic through all of winter. So I am 51 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: a big fan of that idea. Now, as for energy drains, 52 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: what makes you feel sluggish? I would probably say getting 53 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 1: too hungry is a big for me. So it's not 54 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 1: great for me to plan something really complicated for that 55 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: hour or so before lunch, and certainly working too many 56 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: days in a row will do it. So if I 57 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: have a week of call like and then I'm on 58 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: for the weekend and I'm on for the next week. Ugh, 59 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 1: If I can do anything to break up that twelve 60 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:20,519 Speaker 1: day stretch, I am better off, because not having a 61 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: day to rest and not be so scheduled is really 62 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: kind of draining. Yeah, no, I could see that well, 63 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 1: for me, I'm more of an introverted person, and so 64 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: when I have been on all day, that can be 65 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: really draining. And I'm glad I know that about myself 66 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: now that if I have meetings and phone calls stacked up, 67 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: or if I'm at a conference and I'm just go, go, 68 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: go talking to people all day, I need to go 69 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: hide somewhere for fifteen twenty minutes and not talk to anyone. 70 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: And you know, that's just what energizes me. And obviously 71 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: somebody who's more extra extrovert would find that like so exciting, 72 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: but no, so when you know these things about yourself, 73 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: you can add to your energy levels, which is great. 74 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: So we're excited to hear from Molli about how we 75 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 1: can all manage our energy better. So Sarah and I 76 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 1: are delighted to welcome Molly Fletcher to the program. So, Mollie, quick, 77 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 1: tell us your career story. I mean, how did you 78 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 1: wind up being in the sports agency business. A lot 79 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,679 Speaker 1: of kids grow up wanting to be athletes, but maybe 80 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:30,479 Speaker 1: not that part of it, So tell us about that. Yeah, 81 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 1: for sure, So thanks for having me on. Certainly admire 82 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: the work that you do. So I was a student 83 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 1: athlete at Michigan State. I played tennis, and I wanted 84 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:43,799 Speaker 1: to stay after I graduated in the business of sports. 85 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: But I was twenty one, right or twenty two. I 86 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: don't think I quite knew what that actually meant. And 87 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: so I looked at my mom and dad. After growing 88 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,239 Speaker 1: up in East Lansing, Michigan, played tennis at the State 89 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 1: and you know, two miles away from each other, right, 90 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 1: I was such a big girl. I went so far away, 91 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 1: I said, Mom and Dad, I think I want to 92 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: move to Atlanta to find a job in sports. And 93 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: long story short, saved money, got down to Atlanta, negotiated 94 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 1: a deal to teach tennis in exchange for my rent, 95 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: which was pretty awesome, of course, because that took away 96 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 1: a pretty big monthly nut for me, gave me a 97 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 1: little bit of time to find the right job. I 98 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 1: networked my head off and sort of always had this 99 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 1: philosophy that you know, when you asked for a job, 100 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: you get advice, and when you ask for advice, you 101 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 1: get a job, and was able to land in a 102 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: small agency in Atlanta. We had about I don't know, 103 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 1: three or four NBA coaches and one baseball player and 104 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 1: I was brought in to go find endorsement deals for 105 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 1: the athletes and for the athlete and the coach that 106 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: we had. And after about a month or two, I thought, gosh, 107 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: how are we going to grow? I had spent much 108 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: of my early time at the agency driving Lenny Wilkins 109 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,919 Speaker 1: around during the Dream Teams basketball when the Olympics run Atlanta. 110 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 1: So I put a business plan together on how I 111 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: thought we could focus and grow baseball first, and fortunately 112 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 1: the CEO the agency blessed it and I was kind 113 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: of off and running, and you know, I would I 114 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: would lean on the fence down at Georgia Tech. Probably 115 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 1: like most people, you don't go after the you know, 116 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 1: elephant first in business. So I was going after the 117 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 1: top round draft guys out of college and signed a 118 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: couple guys that year, and a couple more than next year, 119 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: and a couple more the next year. And then I 120 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: would go see them in the minor league parks and 121 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 1: they'd bring their buddies to dinner, and you know, I 122 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 1: sort of have this belief, you know, at some level 123 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: in business, how do you act like you have a 124 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: business before you have a business. So I would try 125 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: to add value to the athletes that I didn't work 126 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: with but I wanted to and hopes that I could 127 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 1: get them to switch over. And so eighteen years later 128 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: I had about three hundred athletes and coaches in about 129 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: six different spaces NBA coaches, college coaches, baseball players, PGA, 130 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 1: LPGA broadcasters, And it was an amazing journey. So that's 131 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 1: the quickest version of that story I can deliver. And 132 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 1: so for our listeners who are maybe less in tune 133 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: to the sports world, I mean what the agent does 134 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: is gets these deals where they're endorsing products for instance, 135 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: and looking after their contracts in general. Right is that 136 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 1: large under right? So athletes generally off the field and 137 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: on the field or court or course make money in 138 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: three primary ways, right, endorsement deals, which are the logos 139 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: on the body, the commercials that we all see, name 140 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: and likeness type things. Of course, managing their money. There's 141 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: a lot of financial advisors that live in this space. 142 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: And then negotiating their primary contracts with the team networker school, 143 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: and that's where a lot of opportunity is and that's 144 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: where I spent most of my time is negotiating those 145 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: those contracts. Yeah, and a lot of contracts for our listeners, 146 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: I think I think it was something over like five 147 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 1: hundred million dollars in contracts. Is that what I read? Absolutely? Yeah, 148 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: and a lot of different in a lot of different verticals, right, 149 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: whether it was golf or baseball, And you know, I 150 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: absolutely loved every minute minute of it. And for the 151 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: people listening, you know, I found that, like many of us, right, 152 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: we don't start out negotiating ten, twenty fifteen hundred million 153 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: dollar deals. It was practicing on the smaller ones, getting confidence, 154 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: understanding a process that worked so that that then you 155 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: can lift up and apply to the bigger deals. Yeah, 156 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: and I wonder if you could talk a little bit 157 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: about that process. I mean, what do most people get 158 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: wrong when they go into negotiations. Well, I think probably 159 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:14,679 Speaker 1: one of the biggest things, I mean there's a couple, 160 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 1: but one of the biggest things is is not spending 161 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 1: enough time in the head and the heart of the 162 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: person you're negotiating with. I think it's super important to 163 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:25,119 Speaker 1: spend time and energy thinking about what are they worried about, 164 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: what's in their world, what's happening. So, if I was 165 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: getting ready to negotiate a baseball player's contract, with an organization. 166 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 1: I wanted to understand from the team's perspective, where is 167 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: their payroll? You know, how many free agents do they have? 168 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: Who do they have in the minor league system? And 169 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 1: I think for all of us and whatever it is 170 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: that we're doing, when we can put time and energy 171 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:47,319 Speaker 1: around their world and what are they worried about? I 172 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 1: think the mistake people make is they spend so much 173 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 1: time and energy worried about what they want. What's the 174 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 1: deal that I'm going to be happy with? What are 175 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 1: the numbers, what's the sort of details around it? And 176 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 1: I think that's important and we we teach this at 177 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 1: our negotiation training, helping people understand how you show up 178 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 1: at the negotiation table and how the people you negotiate 179 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 1: with show up. Are they financially focused, are they more strategic? 180 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: Are they worried about the logistics? So that's one I think, 181 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:18,959 Speaker 1: you know, another one might be not taking time to 182 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 1: be intentional about building the relationships on the front end. 183 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: You know, to me, negotiations just a conversation at the 184 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: end of the day, right, That's what it is. It's 185 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: a difficult conversation, but it's a conversation. And so the 186 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: more we can drive connection, I think, the better the 187 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 1: result and the more the conversation keeps going, which in 188 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: turn drives you know, potentially and then an end result 189 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: that we want. But inside of that journey, having the 190 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 1: courage to pause, having the courage to be intentional about 191 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 1: building connection, adding value to the people that we negotiate with, 192 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 1: is which is counterintuitive. You know. We live in this 193 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: technology world where so much is happening online and text 194 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: and email. But I always joke and say, if you 195 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: want a deal to not get done, yeah exactly, Yeah, 196 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: I mean you got to be there in person doing it. 197 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 1: And I think what's really cool about this. I mean, 198 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 1: obviously you're you know, people can guess you're probably one 199 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: of the few women in this field, you know, intense 200 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:21,199 Speaker 1: sports negotiation. But you're also raising three daughters at the 201 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: same time, right, So when were they sort of born 202 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: in this process? Yeah? Such an awesome question. Of course, 203 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 1: that's my primary role ride as wife and mother, as 204 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 1: I know, is yours too, you know. So we had 205 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: one incredible gift, our daughter Emma, and then actually twelve 206 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: months later, I delivered twins. So Molly does nothing halfway, 207 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: by the way, right, I do every big fast. So 208 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: we had three kids in twelve months, and so they 209 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: were you know, kind of a little bit, probably sixty 210 00:10:57,320 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 1: percent of the way through my journey as an agent, 211 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:02,199 Speaker 1: and you know, they were sort of young enough to 212 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 1: not really know sometimes maybe when I needed to jump 213 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 1: on a call here and there later, et cetera. But 214 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: they were getting older as I started to realize where 215 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: I've got to get clear on this, because I was 216 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 1: jumping out of bed from reading a Good Night's Story 217 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: to my daughter to grabbing the phone from a baseball 218 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: player on his way to the park who went three 219 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: for four with a home run and wanted to talk 220 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:27,559 Speaker 1: about it and wanted some energy. Yeah, well that's all 221 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: from sort of honey, you know, and the bunny jumped 222 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: over the two. Hey man, what's up three before old? 223 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 1: We're gonna make the money off that one. Well, certainly, 224 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 1: managing energy is something a lot of our listeners are 225 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: dealing with as they are, you know, negotiating the space 226 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 1: between building their careers, raising their families. And so you've 227 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 1: got this new book coming out in January called The 228 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 1: Energy Clock. I mean, what led you to write this? 229 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:58,199 Speaker 1: You know, that's such an awesome question. Laura. I mean, 230 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 1: you know, after living for almost twenty years in such 231 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: a fast paced environment where people were just reacting, you know, 232 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 1: you're going and reacting often, and it was really a 233 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 1: question I began to ask myself. I mean, I worked 234 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: twenty four hours a day. Almost my phone rang, I 235 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: slept with it. I'd buy pajamas with pockets in it. 236 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 1: And as my daughter started getting older and I was 237 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 1: working twenty four to seven, I started to I wrote 238 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: a couple of books. At that point, I started speaking 239 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 1: and I started asking myself a question, which is what 240 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 1: are you chasing? Right? Like, what are you really chasing? 241 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 1: Is it a billion dollars in deals? Is it five 242 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:36,959 Speaker 1: hundred athletes? Is it? And what am I going to 243 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: risk losing along the way? And so and then I started, 244 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 1: you know, connecting with some of my friends and folks 245 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: in business that I know, and I would connect with 246 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: people who were, you know, maybe their health wasn't wasn't 247 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: good and they were traveling too much, and I'd spend 248 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,079 Speaker 1: time with them. And everybody that I was sort of 249 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 1: connecting with was like, man, I'm exhausted. I'm just I'm 250 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 1: just I've got too much going on. I'm so busy. 251 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 1: It was like, and I think we still do this 252 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 1: at some level. We're busy as a badge of honor. 253 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 1: And so I started asking people that question, right, like 254 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 1: what are you chasing? Right like an executive at a 255 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 1: huge public company or you know, what are you chasing? 256 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: And they look at me like what do you mean? 257 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: And I'm like, what are you chasing? And they're like, 258 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 1: I don't understand your question. And I said, well, why 259 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 1: are you exhausted and traveling and doing all of this? 260 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 1: And I wasn't getting kind of a really clear answer, 261 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 1: and I was finding that people weren't clear. And it 262 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:35,199 Speaker 1: candidly broke my heart because what I have seen over 263 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 1: the years is people with a whole lot of money 264 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 1: and a whole lot of resources, and they're getting on 265 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:42,959 Speaker 1: and off private planes or whatever it might be in 266 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: their life, and they're miserable. And it breaks my heart. 267 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 1: And so I thought, how can we try to fix this? 268 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: And so I pulled back and sort of said, how 269 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 1: can we make sure that we're aligning our energy with 270 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 1: our value system? How are we aligning what matters most 271 00:13:57,640 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 1: to us in our lives with where we're putting our 272 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: time and energy and assuring it lines off with what 273 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: matters most. Yeah, so the book is a process to 274 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: help people do that great. 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So her book coming out 322 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 1: in January is called The Energy Clock, and one of 323 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: the things you recommend in there is doing an energy audit. 324 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 1: So what is this and how do we do an 325 00:16:56,880 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: energy audit? That such an awesome quite you know. So basically, 326 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 1: an energy audit is sort of trying to get clear. 327 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 1: It is trying to get clear on the things that 328 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: energize us, the things that lift us up, the things 329 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 1: that give us energy, and then writing those down personally 330 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 1: and professionally what are those things, and then getting clear 331 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: on the things that are sort of neutral in our 332 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 1: life right that don't necessarily drain our energy, don't necessarily 333 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 1: get us excited, and don't necessarily lift us up. But 334 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: they're things that we need to do right. We need 335 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 1: to take a shower, we need to brush our teeth right, 336 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:28,199 Speaker 1: so neutral things, and then what are the things that 337 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:30,919 Speaker 1: just exhaust us? What are the things personally and professionally 338 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: that totally drain us? And so the first step is 339 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 1: getting really clear on what those things are, and then 340 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 1: we walk people through a system of how to institutionalize 341 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:43,439 Speaker 1: this in their daily lives as it relates to their 342 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:46,160 Speaker 1: calendar and the way they're intentional about starting and ending 343 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 1: the days. Yeah, and so there are green light, orange light, 344 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:53,639 Speaker 1: and red light items, so our listeners can probably guess 345 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 1: what each of those refer to. I'm curious, Mally, what 346 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:59,719 Speaker 1: are your green light items? And then maybe we can 347 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: hear your red light item. Sorry to you, that's great. 348 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: So you know, my green light items would be working out. 349 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:09,719 Speaker 1: I'd love to work out, you know, at the end 350 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 1: of the day, sitting down with my husband and our 351 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 1: girls who are now fifteen, fifteen and sixteen. You know, 352 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 1: we did this last night, and you know, I had 353 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 1: a glass of wine. My husband and I and our 354 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 1: girls are you know, just telling stories about the day 355 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 1: and we're all just in the room to gather, the 356 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 1: five of us sharing. I mean, that is absolutely an 357 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 1: energy lifter for me. You know, things that drain my energy, 358 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 1: you know, I would say, our whiny children. Do you 359 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: feel like, yes, you know, whiny kids, ungrateful moments when 360 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: maybe not as grateful as I think maybe they could be. 361 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: Those are the kinds of things that candidly sort of 362 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 1: get me, you know, going in and then you know, 363 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: flight delays. All those kinds of things I mean that 364 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: we all deal with. But I think what's important is 365 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 1: to recognize those moments and then being trying to be 366 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 1: intentional about the story we tell ourselves in reef frame 367 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 1: those moments as to how can I, in this moment 368 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 1: when I'm late, when I'm frustrated at a gate agent 369 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: at a delta counter, show up as the best version 370 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 1: of myself. You know, maybe I can in this moment 371 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 1: where I'm dipping toward a red zone, how can I 372 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: be intentional about shifting toward a green as quickly as 373 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 1: possible so that I can, you know, be a positive 374 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 1: light in this woman's life. Or the Yeah, and that's 375 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: that's a pretty big mindset shift there. And you talk 376 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 1: about trying to we can manage them or eliminate them, 377 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: And I'm curious if you've seen some of the people 378 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 1: you've talked to successfully eliminate any big drains and how 379 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: that winds up working out a one hundred percent. I mean, 380 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 1: I think you're absolutely right, Lore we want to try 381 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 1: to eliminate them. And what we teach people how to 382 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,119 Speaker 1: do is color code their calendars so that they're clear 383 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 1: on the things that give them energy, the things that 384 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: are neutral and the things that are red. And how 385 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,120 Speaker 1: can we recognize what these things that are that are 386 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: read and ask ourselves what's at risk to make a change, right, 387 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 1: what's at risk to really make a change here around 388 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 1: these things that are potentially sucking us dry and then 389 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,159 Speaker 1: being intentional about and we walk people through that process 390 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 1: of how to make that change, how to get rid 391 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: of those reds. I would argue that there are going 392 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,199 Speaker 1: to be reds that unexpectedly show up in our lives. 393 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: It's about the way we handle them, and it's about 394 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: shifting out of that red zone as fast as we can. Yeah, 395 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:23,239 Speaker 1: And so what are what are some ways we might 396 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 1: do that you mentioned. We can we can try to 397 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:27,880 Speaker 1: be a better person in the moment where we're mad 398 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,640 Speaker 1: at the gate agent. You know, just you find yourself 399 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 1: in this like, ugh, I feel it. I feel terrible. 400 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 1: What should people do? Well? I mean, I think you 401 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 1: want to go quickly to control the controllables, right, I mean, 402 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 1: and my coaches talk about this all to all the time, 403 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: and you know, it's how do you control what you 404 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:47,199 Speaker 1: can control? Recognizing that there are things inside of our 405 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: world that we can't control, and when we give those 406 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 1: uncontrollables a lot of our energy, it's exhausting. I spent 407 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: an hour on the edge of my daughter's bed last 408 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:00,080 Speaker 1: night talking about a situation with some friends and and 409 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,719 Speaker 1: and a boy, and some of the things that were 410 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 1: frustrating her were things that she couldn't control, and what 411 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: was frustrating her was that she was trying to control 412 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: them and she couldn't. And that's okay, And so we 413 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 1: really talked through that. So it's about recognizing the controllables 414 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: and the uncontrollables and being intentional about how can I 415 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,159 Speaker 1: influence the uncontrollables, but how can I make sure that 416 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: I'm focusing my energy around the things that I can control. Well, 417 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 1: I'm wrapping my head here around your whiney toddler example, 418 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 1: because that's one that you can't really readily sort of 419 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 1: just X out of your calendar, at least without you know, 420 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 1: can't really skip a good portion of your child's life. 421 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 1: But I see what you're saying in terms of figuring 422 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 1: out what you can control about that situation and and 423 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 1: you know, building in intentional breaks for example. So that yeah, 424 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:51,160 Speaker 1: so what, Yeah, why don't you talk about what should 425 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 1: we do about whiney toddlers? Yeah? Trust me, I mean, 426 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,360 Speaker 1: you know, I think it's what's what's important is to say, 427 00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 1: what are the things that give you energy? And are 428 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 1: you being intention about making those a part of your day, 429 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: Because the truth is we have a little bit more 430 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 1: bandwidth for the whiny kids when we've maybe gotten our 431 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: yoga in or we've gotten our walk in, or we've 432 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 1: gotten our morning routine in or whatever it is. So 433 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,640 Speaker 1: anytime I know I'm approaching a window of time that's 434 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: going to be an energy drain for me, whether it's 435 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:18,959 Speaker 1: coming home at the end of the day and I 436 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:20,719 Speaker 1: know that I'm going to have winy kids to your 437 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: point or you know whatever, when we can anticipate those 438 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 1: moments and be intentional about making sure we fill our 439 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 1: own cups up and they're overflowing. So when we walk 440 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 1: into these moments and they drain our energy, we're still 441 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,479 Speaker 1: got a cup half full. We're not at e So 442 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 1: it's anticipating it and making sure we take care of ourselves. 443 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: I think one of the things that's so important is 444 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,640 Speaker 1: being intentional about taking care of ourselves. And I think 445 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 1: that as women, as mothers, were often incredibly unselfish. But 446 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,120 Speaker 1: it's a mindset shift to say, you know what, if 447 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:57,159 Speaker 1: I don't recognize how I fill my energy up, then 448 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:58,640 Speaker 1: I'm not going to be able to give my best 449 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 1: self to the people that matter the moment. So I 450 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: think it's important to make sure we take care of 451 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: ourselves so we can take care of the people the mattermost. 452 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,439 Speaker 1: And when you had three children who were within a 453 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 1: year of each other and they were little ones, what 454 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 1: practically did you do to make sure that you were 455 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 1: still functioning? Yes? Absolutely, Well, you know, number one, I 456 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: have an incredible husband and we're teammates, and that conversation 457 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,239 Speaker 1: and clarity around the way that we were approaching our 458 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 1: lives together was a really big deal, you know. And 459 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,439 Speaker 1: then I did some really impractical things, right. I wrote 460 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,959 Speaker 1: checks to spend the night in my own bed and 461 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: have somebody else, you know, run over and be a 462 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 1: night nurse for just about a month or two, so 463 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: that I could make sure that I was rested, because 464 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 1: I knew if I wasn't rested, I wasn't going to 465 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 1: be able to do what I do from a career perspective, 466 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 1: and or even be there enough for what was our 467 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 1: one year old at the time. So I think making 468 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 1: sure tactically that you're anticipating these moments as much as 469 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,640 Speaker 1: you possibly can, putting some resources around you to help 470 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 1: you if you can afford to do that, I think 471 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 1: that's huge. And then ensuring that your husband or a 472 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 1: partner or whatever it might be in life is truly 473 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:07,919 Speaker 1: a teammate. I think women in this world that we 474 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: live in today who are working in and outside of 475 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: the home, you know, I'm all for that, right cannily, 476 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,959 Speaker 1: But it's a different model for everybody. Right. I'm always hesitant, 477 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 1: Laura when I answer that question, because the way Fred 478 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: and I did it might be different for the way 479 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 1: somebody else needs to do it. But it certainly worked 480 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 1: for us. We made it now. We weren't always our 481 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 1: best selves. You know, we had some days that were 482 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 1: a total grind. I mean, you have three kids in diapers, 483 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: and you know, my one year old was thinking she 484 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,919 Speaker 1: was about to get nursed, and the twins were nursing 485 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 1: and they were jumping on. Yeah. I mean I was, 486 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 1: you know, pumping on my way to the office in 487 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: the office, on my way to see clients, freezing milk 488 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 1: at spring training. I mean it was it was twenty 489 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 1: four seven. But it's a window. It's a window, and 490 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: you know that if you lean into it, it'll you'll 491 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,439 Speaker 1: come out the other side. Yeah, I'm very curious. Oh 492 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: you know this quite well, by the way. Yeah, yeah, 493 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 1: how did your your pro athletes? Uh did you ever 494 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 1: have any funny issues with with the large volume of 495 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 1: milk production going? Well? I mean I remember I tell 496 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: the story sometimes when I was driving to the Masters 497 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 1: to see one of our players and you know, and 498 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 1: you know the feeling when you're nurishing and you need 499 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: to you need to go. And I was about an 500 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,919 Speaker 1: hour out from Augusta National and I thought, man, I 501 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 1: can't get to the parking lot of Augusta National with 502 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,199 Speaker 1: Tiger and Phil walking by in the I mean, I 503 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 1: got to figure this out, right, So I literally pulled 504 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 1: my badulla, pumped out and pumped in the car on 505 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,879 Speaker 1: my way to the Master. So I did stuff like 506 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 1: that all the time. I traveled with a you know, 507 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 1: with a cooler and all that kind of stuff. My 508 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 1: guys were pretty understanding. You know. The truth is the 509 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 1: ones who had children were obviously got it a little 510 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 1: bit more, and the ones that didn't not quite so much. 511 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,440 Speaker 1: But I remember being in the hospital after i'd deliver 512 00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: at our twins and a couple of my baseball players 513 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 1: came to the hospital just to see me, and you know, 514 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 1: I mean, I just delivered twins. My mom was sitting 515 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 1: there with me, and they'd come to the door and 516 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,360 Speaker 1: it'd be a big name guy and she'd just turn 517 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,120 Speaker 1: and look at them and say, no, you're not coming in, man, 518 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 1: you get lead. I'm like, Mom, you can't. You can't 519 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 1: tell that guy to lead. You got a lot. She's like, 520 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: absolutely not. You need to rest. So she truthfully in 521 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,120 Speaker 1: regards the energy management stuff, has been a really big 522 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 1: influence on helping me stay centered and intentional about aligning 523 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 1: my energy with my value systems. And in the book, 524 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 1: I tell a lot of stories about some kind of 525 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,159 Speaker 1: aha moments that my mom and dad were both a 526 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 1: really big part of that helped me realign because I 527 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 1: can promise you without them, I could have gotten off course. 528 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 1: And that's what I hope this book does for people, 529 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 1: is if you do or don't have people in your 530 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 1: life like that, I hope it helps people get back 531 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:55,880 Speaker 1: on course because the truth, it's like a flight from 532 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,439 Speaker 1: LaGuardia to la It can be two degrees off and 533 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,879 Speaker 1: you can end up in Seattle. You know. Well, it 534 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:04,680 Speaker 1: definitely sounded like one of the things you got from 535 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 1: them is this focus on people, right, that it's relationships 536 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 1: that matter and much more than anything else. Yeah, I'll 537 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,199 Speaker 1: tell you when I was early in my career as 538 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,719 Speaker 1: an agent, I was sitting my parents had both you know, 539 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 1: flown down from Michigan, and we're super excited to come 540 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,160 Speaker 1: and see me. And I was still single at the time, 541 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,719 Speaker 1: and we went to this really cool place for lunch 542 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 1: and we sat down and they'd just come in and 543 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: we get to the table and we sit down and 544 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:35,200 Speaker 1: literally my phone didn't stop bringing with players calling who'd 545 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:39,160 Speaker 1: been traded, released, you know, hired, fired, you know, clubs 546 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:40,879 Speaker 1: were lost on their way to with tournament. I mean, 547 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 1: it was one thing after another, and I took every 548 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 1: single call. I took every single call, and it was 549 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,199 Speaker 1: it was an experience where my parents could have had 550 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 1: that exact same lunch in Michigan. And what I saw 551 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 1: in them in that moment was we don't care. We 552 00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: don't care about all these people and what you're doing, 553 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,919 Speaker 1: How are you? What's going on with you? Take a 554 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:08,119 Speaker 1: minute and and pause and connect. So there was moments 555 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 1: like that that they were a really big part of 556 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: reshattering me. So I'm grateful for that wonderful Well, Molly, 557 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 1: we always end our interviews with what we call our 558 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 1: love of the week, which is just something that we 559 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 1: find really cool in the world or something that we're 560 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,119 Speaker 1: you know, making use of now that we want to share. 561 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 1: So Sarah and I can go first, so that you 562 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 1: can hear what we have and go from there. So Sarah, 563 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,159 Speaker 1: what what what are you loving this week? Can I 564 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,119 Speaker 1: change mine? Because I've been like jurist. Then also a 565 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 1: pre plan is how well, this is why I'm giving here, Molly. 566 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 1: While we do tend to. We are we are planners. 567 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 1: So there you go. Okay, final, I'll stick with my 568 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 1: I'll just add my side note. That just made me 569 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,239 Speaker 1: think of that show Ballers on HBO, because I know 570 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 1: you mentioned a movie about a sports agent that you 571 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 1: can mention, but I really liked that show Ballers. I 572 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 1: haven't watched it for a while. Anyway. My love of 573 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 1: the week was ordering lunch out when I'm at work 574 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 1: because the other day I needed to do some podcast 575 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 1: prep and it could have taken me time to go 576 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 1: to the cafeteria and get food, or I guess if 577 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 1: I'd brought something, I could have heated it up. But 578 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 1: that didn't happen, and I was like, no, I'm delivering 579 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 1: lunch and in that time I save, I will be 580 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 1: able to do all the prep for our upcoming podcast recordings. 581 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 1: And I had a very productive hour and a nice 582 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 1: lunch in my office. So I'm glad that's a thing 583 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 1: you can do. Yeah, yeah, that is a cool thing 584 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 1: you can do. Yeah. Well, I got a massage yesterday, 585 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 1: so I think I will do that one which it's 586 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 1: you know, just I had not done it in a while. 587 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 1: And as a reminder that it's it's good. It's synergizing. 588 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 1: I mean, it's relaxing, but it's also a way to 589 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 1: add to my energy levels. So I enjoyed that for you. 590 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 1: I love that you guys are are doing this. You know, 591 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 1: probably my husband and I celebrated a nineteen wedding nineteen 592 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 1: year wedding anniversary last Monday, and you know, with three 593 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 1: teenage girls playing three different sports and moving around, and 594 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 1: are both of us working and traveling and all that 595 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 1: kind of stuff, it gets hard to take time to 596 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 1: just run away for a day or two. We planned 597 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 1: ahead and and and got somebody here to to that 598 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 1: we love to be with our girls that night, and 599 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 1: we took off for a night to go to a 600 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: fun spot that we love. So that's something I want 601 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 1: to be more intentional about doing moving forward, because I 602 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 1: think when we you know, the last thing you want 603 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 1: to do is your kids grow up and they leave 604 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 1: the house and you look at each other and say, 605 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 1: who in the world are you? I ask? So being there, yeah, 606 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 1: being intentional about that time together without the kids, I 607 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 1: think is a really big deal. So that was a 608 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: that was super fun. We did that last week. That's awesome, 609 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,959 Speaker 1: all right, Molly. One last question just because I what 610 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 1: did you think of the film? Jerry Maguire. Yeah, so 611 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 1: it's a great question. You know. He I always joke 612 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 1: and say he was really stressed out right. I mean 613 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 1: the guy was, you know, grinding it, and he had 614 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 1: one client and we had three hundred, so he could 615 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 1: stay that Yeah, right, he could just get over himself. No, U, 616 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 1: it was frighteningly very real at some level. But yeah, 617 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 1: he had one, we had three hundred, so I don't 618 00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 1: feel that bad for him. Yeah, no, let's not feel 619 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 1: that exactly. Well, Mollie, thank you so much for coming out. 620 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. It's an absolute pleasure. Thanks for 621 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 1: what you do. All right, that was an excellent interview. 622 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 1: I feel much more educated now about how to energize myself. 623 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 1: So we're going to move on to our question. One 624 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 1: listener writes, I found your podcast about a year ago, 625 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 1: and it has been a breath of fresh air in 626 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 1: my friends circle. I am surrounded by stay at home 627 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 1: mom so I don't get to talk to a lot 628 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 1: of people that face the same challenges that I do 629 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 1: on a daily basis. I enjoy working and fulfilling my ambitions. 630 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 1: I work in corporate finance, so I struggle finding a 631 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 1: way to answer the why do you always have to 632 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 1: go to work question for my four year old. I 633 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 1: don't save lives or help people in my day to 634 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 1: day job. I also don't have to go to work 635 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 1: to earn money. With some adjustments, we would be totally 636 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 1: fine as a single income family. I love my kids dearly, 637 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 1: but the thought of staying home with them every day 638 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 1: while Hobby works give me anxiety. How do I explain 639 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 1: that I want to work outside of the home without 640 00:31:54,400 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 1: them feeling rejected? Let me start here. This question bothers 641 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 1: me a little bit because we're talking about a four 642 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 1: year old. So four year olds do not get to 643 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 1: make life defining decisions for their parents based on their 644 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 1: whims because they are four. And I think it's only 645 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 1: the fact that this is a hot button topic for women, 646 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 1: like those cultural narratives around mothers shouldn't work, that is 647 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 1: leading her to assign any weight to a four year 648 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 1: old's desires, Like if your four year old says I 649 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 1: don't want to try the potty before I get in 650 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 1: the car, you're not like, oh my gosh, I'm a 651 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 1: terrible mother for making him try the potty. Like if 652 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 1: he doesn't want to have a seat belt, you're like, 653 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 1: get your seat belt on, kid, Like, this is what 654 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 1: we do. Like if he doesn't want to eat his vegetables, 655 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 1: you sit there and make him do it. Like there's 656 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 1: so many things that four year olds do not want 657 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 1: to do, Like they want to bite people, they want 658 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 1: to throw things, like, let's just they don't like the 659 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 1: fact that he would rather you sit there watching TV 660 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 1: with him all day, like rather than him going to 661 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 1: school or are you going to work? Like so what 662 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 1: like this is not something that a four year old 663 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 1: has any perspective on. So it's only because it's this 664 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:08,239 Speaker 1: topic that you're assigning any weight whatsoever to what your 665 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 1: kid is saying. So that is my little soapboxed stand 666 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 1: there is so funny. I mean, your your I see 667 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 1: your point. And then yet that like angle didn't even 668 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 1: really cross my mind. I was more like, well, how 669 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 1: can we address this four year old? I might say 670 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 1: something about my parenting style, who knows, But you're right. 671 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 1: I mean the other day I got my hair done 672 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 1: and Cameron was like, I hate your hair. You should 673 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 1: never cut your hair ever again. And it's like I 674 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 1: wasn't like, well, okay, I guess I never to do 675 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 1: your hair. Yes, so there you go. So my thoughts 676 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 1: were to emphasize the things to your four year old 677 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 1: that and make, you know, have him understand that your 678 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 1: happiness is allowed to matter. So I thought maybe saying 679 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 1: something like I do love spending time with you, but 680 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 1: I also really love getting to use my skills heet. 681 00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 1: You don't have to use the word, but these things 682 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,959 Speaker 1: are and I love spending time with you, and I 683 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 1: also love getting to use my skills at work. I'm 684 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 1: so lucky I get to do both. Because I'm sure 685 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 1: she's spending some time with him, probably plenty. I also 686 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 1: want to kind of poke some holes in that whole 687 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,279 Speaker 1: line about I don't have to work. I mean, you 688 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,960 Speaker 1: were in corporate finance like you are, probably not just 689 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,919 Speaker 1: bringing home, like you know, a spare twenty dollars bill, 690 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 1: So this extra financial boost your family is getting from 691 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 1: your career is not trivial. I mean, I guess if 692 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 1: you're married to like Bill Gates, maybe it is, but 693 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,319 Speaker 1: like anybody else, it's not, and you never know what's 694 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 1: going to happen. But also, like, how about things like 695 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,919 Speaker 1: being able to help fund their college or grad school 696 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 1: or their other dreams, or family travel without strain, or 697 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 1: you know, even just having a more secure retirement situation. 698 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,800 Speaker 1: Like I mean, I just don't think you can discount 699 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 1: what you're bringing in financially. And then finally you can 700 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,359 Speaker 1: think about ways that you do help people. You I'm 701 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 1: sure going to work and hopefully are a kind and 702 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:58,719 Speaker 1: polite the people you work with and the staff, and 703 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 1: you help a company's see it. And I'm sure there's 704 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:02,759 Speaker 1: some good that your company puts out into the world, 705 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 1: even if it's more for pr than anything else, but still, 706 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 1: and you can find a way to explain those things. 707 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,239 Speaker 1: I think there's also as kids get older, you can 708 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 1: have more serious discussions about this topic. We had a 709 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,400 Speaker 1: fun discussion with Jasper the other day because he's been 710 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 1: watching the Office and he said to me, Mom, it's 711 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:21,319 Speaker 1: so sad. It seems like many of them don't like 712 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 1: their jobs, and I'm like, yep. We talked about why 713 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 1: people might keep going to jobs they don't like, but 714 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 1: we also talked about, well, you know, you've never heard 715 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,359 Speaker 1: mommy and Daddy say like we don't like what we do, 716 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:39,400 Speaker 1: that we are so fortunate that we have found things 717 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,800 Speaker 1: that we love to do professionally, and then we also 718 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:48,000 Speaker 1: love spending time with you guys. And you know, particularly 719 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 1: as he becomes aware of the dollar figures associated with things. 720 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 1: I mean, there's something nice to be able to say, like, 721 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,600 Speaker 1: you know, mommy, why are you traveling for work? Why 722 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:57,400 Speaker 1: are you going to give a speech? Hey? Do you 723 00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 1: remember that Disney cruise? Do you know that I can 724 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 1: pay for a Disney cruise by doing this, you know 725 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,920 Speaker 1: trip this week? Like you know, maybe maybe that's something 726 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 1: that you're interested in us doing again in the future. 727 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 1: And that has been you know, I can't say they 728 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:17,359 Speaker 1: ever love the idea that you're not immediately there for 729 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,440 Speaker 1: all their whims twenty four to seven, but sure, I mean, 730 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,400 Speaker 1: if we were all allowed to have somebody at our 731 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 1: beck and call twenty four to seven, we might take it. 732 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 1: So I think, you know, you are entitled as an 733 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:32,399 Speaker 1: adult to live your life as you wish, and you are, 734 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:36,239 Speaker 1: no doubt spending tons of time with your kids, and 735 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 1: that's great. You have both best of both worlds. That's 736 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 1: what we do here, all right, Well, this has been 737 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:43,799 Speaker 1: best of both worlds, as we just said, and we'll 738 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 1: be back next week with more on making work in 739 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 1: life fit together. Thanks for listening. You can find me 740 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 1: Sarah at the shoebox dot com or at the Underscore 741 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,680 Speaker 1: shoe Box on Instagram, and you can find me Laura 742 00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:01,400 Speaker 1: at Laura vandercam dot com. This has been the best 743 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,960 Speaker 1: of both worlds podcasts. Please join us next time for 744 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 1: more on making work and life work together.