Speaker 1: Unpacking the Toolbox is a production of Shondaland Audio in
Speaker 1: partnership with Iheartradios Katie Tho.
Speaker 2: Guiermo. Did you get a haircut?
Speaker 3: I did on Saturday. I got a haircut. Do you
Speaker 3: like it?
Speaker 2: And you have plain brown hair?
Speaker 3: Yes? Can you believe it? I had it died first.
Speaker 1: I had a bleach blonde, then I dyed it blue.
Speaker 1: For a while, I had a green before the blue,
Speaker 1: then blue, and then auditions started to pick up and
Speaker 1: my manager was like, you need to dye your hair
Speaker 1: back to black or back to brown.
Speaker 4: I love your manager's so much that they say that
Speaker 4: stuff to you. I feel like not all managers would
Speaker 4: do that. This is a really personal question too that
Speaker 4: I've always I think I want to ask you and
Speaker 4: you don't have to answer honestly, But like, do you
Speaker 4: shave into your eyebrows?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I do, just a think. I don't do it. My
Speaker 1: barber does it.
Speaker 2: Is there a name for that?
Speaker 3: No? I don't think so.
Speaker 1: I just like the look it kind of looks like
Speaker 1: I got, you know, like I have a scar almost
Speaker 1: or whatever. And then if I like, I just did
Speaker 1: the good doctor and not too long ago, and they
Speaker 1: just you know, they just color it colored in.
Speaker 3: And covered up. It's such an easy cover up.
Speaker 4: An eyebrow scar is very hot, it's very attractive. I
Speaker 4: want to say, Jason Momoa has one. Oh my son
Speaker 4: busted his eyebrow when he was eighteen months old and
Speaker 4: has a really nice eyebrow scar. That is good.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh, I hope it stays with him for.
Speaker 2: Oh it's that whole life.
Speaker 4: He completely has it. It's white in here, like a
Speaker 4: white line.
Speaker 3: Oh, it's so cute.
Speaker 4: And I was so upset. Oh my god, I sobbed
Speaker 4: when it happened. I was like his perfect angelic face
Speaker 4: that I created in my own body. And then I
Speaker 4: both myself has been completely tainted by this fareva scar
Speaker 4: and now I'm obsessed with it.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 3: What was the accident was?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it was awful.
Speaker 4: He was sitting on my lap and I was just
Speaker 4: reading him a book or something like that, like I
Speaker 4: was sitting crisscross applesauce, and he like soot up and
Speaker 4: went to the bookshelf to go grab another book, and
Speaker 4: he tripped on my knee and nailed his face on
Speaker 4: the corner of the bookshelf.
Speaker 2: It was like a year and a half.
Speaker 4: He wasn't really great at walking yet and he nailed
Speaker 4: and it was just like this big open cut in
Speaker 4: his eyebrow. And I swear I spent a good four
Speaker 4: hours going down a total spiral of looking up every
Speaker 4: hot person that has an eyebrow scar.
Speaker 2: You were like, this is to make sure that my
Speaker 2: son is okay.
Speaker 4: And there are plenty it's and you yourself are giving
Speaker 4: one bulloh opting for that.
Speaker 3: Hello, I'm shaving into it myself.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, You're not gonna believe this.
Speaker 3: What.
Speaker 4: On November fifteenth, twenty eighteen, Momoa was slashed in the
Speaker 4: face with a broken beer glass at Bird's Cafe No
Speaker 4: in Hollywood, California. He received one hundred and forty stitches
Speaker 4: during reconstructive surgery, which resulted in the scar on his
Speaker 4: left eyebrow.
Speaker 3: Yo, that's messed up. Who the hell sliced into his face?
Speaker 2: Have you ever gotten to a fight in a bar? No?
Speaker 3: No, I haven't.
Speaker 2: I've never even gotten into a fight. Have you been
Speaker 2: in a fight?
Speaker 1: Shit? I have, but it's been like quick, not like
Speaker 1: a full on like I remember too growing up in
Speaker 1: New York, like friends that would be like yo, after
Speaker 1: school and then they'd like take their shirts off.
Speaker 3: All the kids would come out to watch. It was
Speaker 3: like a freaking boxing match, and I was like, oh
Speaker 3: my god.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like I've gotten into like, you know, shoving matches
Speaker 1: and a little bit of fighting, but very quickly.
Speaker 2: Did you ever throw a punch, like at somebody's face?
Speaker 1: I have thrown a punch, yeah, And I didn't like it.
Speaker 1: I don't like it at all.
Speaker 4: I'm so interesting because you always play such I feel
Speaker 4: like you play some pretty fucking badass characters that have
Speaker 4: been in a lot of fights.
Speaker 3: Which is interesting.
Speaker 1: You're saying this, Katie, because in this episode that we're
Speaker 1: about to talk about, it's called Mama Said Knock you Out, Yes,
Speaker 1: and and Huck beat up on a B six thirteen agent.
Speaker 1: There's a couple of punches thrown in this episode. So
Speaker 1: that's so interesting that you're segueing into this thing.
Speaker 2: Honey, It's so good. Oh, aren't I I'm incredible?
Speaker 3: Hello, You're like, dumb motherfucker. I planned this show.
Speaker 2: I had no idea. This is coincidental. I had literally
Speaker 2: no idea. I don't know why we're talking about fighting, oh,
Speaker 2: because we're talking about Jason Momoa's eyebrow.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, Gladiators, we're excited about this episode. Though.
Speaker 4: This episode is pisode three fifteen. It's called Mama Said
Speaker 4: Knock You Yeah?
Speaker 3: Oh shout out? Oh cool Jay?
Speaker 4: Oh, el l cool Jay. I saw him once at
Speaker 4: a diner in Long Island.
Speaker 1: You did, Have you ever met that? I've never No,
Speaker 1: I've never met him, but I did a movie. I
Speaker 1: was in a movie with him called Into Deep, but
Speaker 1: I didn't have any scenes with him, but I love him.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 4: So Mama Said Knock You Out aired on March twenty seven,
Speaker 4: twenty fourteen.
Speaker 1: And it was written by Zahir McGhee and directed by
Speaker 1: Tony Goldwin.
Speaker 3: What what, Oh my god? What what what?
Speaker 4: This episode is chock full guest starring John Tennys, Andrew Nichols,
Speaker 4: Candy Alexander Is, Maya Lewis, Dylan Minnette as Jerry Grid Junior.
Speaker 2: Oh God, he's gonna die so sad, but not in
Speaker 2: this episode.
Speaker 4: Madeline Carrol is Karen grit nazanin Boniati's Ad Non.
Speaker 1: Salif, Charmila Davar is Lauren Wellman, Mackenzie Aston is Noah Baker,
Speaker 1: Carlo Rota as Ivan Molly Bakers, Rachel Moss, Troy Wynn
Speaker 1: Bush as Morris Elcott, and Eben Ham as Tanner Shaw.
Speaker 4: Okay synopsis. When Olivia can't cancel an impending Grant family interview,
Speaker 4: we roll back the clock to view the chaos that
Speaker 4: led up to the minute before. Literally, Melly and Andrew
Speaker 4: continue their affair while Olivia digs dirt up on the grandchildren,
Speaker 4: only to uncover some minor political bashing that becomes a
Speaker 4: bigger problem.
Speaker 1: Then Adnan shows up to o Pa, seemingly turning herself
Speaker 1: in while Quinn tries to reclaim some power back from Huck.
Speaker 1: Moments before the interview, Fits learns about Melly's affair. Miraculously,
Speaker 1: they pull it together at the last moment, as Olivia
Speaker 1: and Quinn both get some shocking news at the end
Speaker 1: of the episode, Wow, what the hell?
Speaker 2: This episode is a ringer.
Speaker 3: It's fun, it's a doozy.
Speaker 2: It's a doozy and.
Speaker 4: We really get This is the episode where we really
Speaker 4: get the Grant kids. They have to carry a lot
Speaker 4: of acting scenes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Katie, my first thought was what a couple of
Speaker 1: spoiled brats. These two fucking schlubs are like they're just
Speaker 1: moping around all pissed off about what, like.
Speaker 4: Yeah, your mommy, ooh, you're in Dan, you're going to
Speaker 4: this fancy fucking school and you're going to this fancy
Speaker 4: school and you're so miserable about your parents, like when when?
Speaker 1: When? And the girls like get out of my bedroom
Speaker 1: and that once. I'm like, girl, I didn't even have
Speaker 1: my own bedroom. At least you have your own bedroom
Speaker 1: to ask somebody to get out. You're annoying me, I know.
Speaker 1: And this episode starts at ten right off the.
Speaker 4: Top, Yeah, I wrote dinner with Fits and Melly and
Speaker 4: Karen and Jerry. It is the worst family dinner ever.
Speaker 4: And he says, at the end of the day, let's
Speaker 4: remember that we.
Speaker 2: Love each other.
Speaker 4: And then I was like, yikes, doesn't seem like nobody
Speaker 4: loves nobody in this family.
Speaker 1: Right, I was just gonna say really quick, and Melly
Speaker 1: to the daughter, She's like, I don't know if you're
Speaker 1: still vegan, but I think this is made with nuts,
Speaker 1: and she's I'm just gonna eat the salad girl.
Speaker 3: Whatever.
Speaker 2: Whatever. Quinn does okay in this episode.
Speaker 1: I listen, this is ponytail, Quinn. I call it ponytail.
Speaker 1: Quinn is a bad ass. Yo. Whenever you see Quinn
Speaker 1: in a ponytail, you know some badass stuff is gonna
Speaker 1: go down in the episode.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's exactly exactly right. But Quinn in this episode
Speaker 2: is Charlie is a dog with a.
Speaker 4: Bone, is going after Quinn so hard? What do you mean,
Speaker 4: Huck was in your apartment? What happened in your apartment?
Speaker 4: When did he push you?
Speaker 2: Did he push you?
Speaker 3: Before?
Speaker 2: And after? And he's quizzing me. He's like, you, guys,
Speaker 2: argue before, did you before he pushed you?
Speaker 3: Or after he pushed She's jealous.
Speaker 4: Possessive, and creepy as shit. Quinn constantly just trying to
Speaker 4: calm this psychopath of a boyfriend who seems as abusive
Speaker 4: and possessive and jealous as all hell. Ladies listening to
Speaker 4: this podcast, if you got a boyfriend that's acting.
Speaker 2: Like that, get out.
Speaker 1: But yo, But Katie just ended to play devil's advocate
Speaker 1: in his defense.
Speaker 3: Quinn is straight up aling to him. He's he's la
Speaker 3: la la lying.
Speaker 1: So he has a reason to be this sort of
Speaker 1: jealous and inquisitive because she's straight.
Speaker 3: Up lying to him.
Speaker 2: Yes she did make out.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Yes, by my case, No boyfriend like that.
Speaker 2: No, he's quizzing her. They're in the car. They're like
Speaker 2: torturing a guy like bad.
Speaker 4: They're in the clear, Aprinds, she's ponytail, Quinn, this is
Speaker 4: all happening.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they have Dmitri in the trunk, the guy that
Speaker 1: they're gonna they're about to torture.
Speaker 2: Exactly.
Speaker 3: We'll be right back, guys.
Speaker 2: Okay, what else do we got?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 4: Other highlights of this episode? Favorite favorite scenes.
Speaker 1: This is the episode that made me think, don't these
Speaker 1: people lock their doors when they're about to fuck around
Speaker 1: with somebody that they're not supposed to be sucking around with,
Speaker 1: even if you're will be working around with them, lock
Speaker 1: the door.
Speaker 3: You're in the White House.
Speaker 1: Mellie goes down on Andrew Nichols and leaves the door unlocked.
Speaker 3: Her daughter walks right in. What the hell? Come on,
Speaker 3: I don't get it.
Speaker 4: You were the best trailer locker listening ever.
Speaker 1: White Trailer Debauchery Guermo was always locked.
Speaker 3: It was the lock.
Speaker 4: I take it from somebody who I never locked my door.
Speaker 4: I never locked my trailer door. I am not a
Speaker 4: door locker. Really, Yeah, it's bad. I don't like really bad,
Speaker 4: and you know what, you're right because like at some
Speaker 4: point my kids are coming in and I don't even
Speaker 4: have locks on my door.
Speaker 3: You don't. Oh wow, do.
Speaker 2: You have locks on your bedroom door in your house?
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lock on the bedroom door. There's a
Speaker 3: lock in the room I'm in right now.
Speaker 1: The lock is a horse that slides overcause they don't
Speaker 1: have the secret bookcase in this room that I'm in.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, because you grew up with three boys in
Speaker 4: a bedroom and like you didn't have any of your
Speaker 4: own space ever.
Speaker 1: Probably and now I like privacy, like don't be coming
Speaker 1: in my room unless you knock. And even on set
Speaker 1: I remember, and not only on Scandal, on other projects
Speaker 1: people would you know the ad Will the eighty or
Speaker 1: their second and whoever comes to.
Speaker 2: Get your base camp, whoever's like running base.
Speaker 1: Camp like a courtesy knock and then open the door, No, bitch,
Speaker 1: knock and then wait for me to open the door,
Speaker 1: enter or us or you open the door your ex exactly.
Speaker 3: Don't be opening the door after you knock.
Speaker 1: This episode also reminds me of the shenanigans that were
Speaker 1: going on when Kelly on Conway Hasty Secretary yea.
Speaker 3: And her kids.
Speaker 1: Do you remember her daughter was like on TikTok, totally
Speaker 1: talking shit about her mother.
Speaker 4: And this is what's happening in the episode, because we
Speaker 4: learned that Jerry Junior has created some fake Twitter account
Speaker 4: or something that's super against his dad's presidency and her
Speaker 4: his dad running for a second term. Yes, talk and
Speaker 4: abby they like shut the Twitter account down.
Speaker 1: Yes, and he's playing on wearing that shirt. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: the governor resting like wear is about.
Speaker 4: To come out there, this little spoiled privileged shit. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and come out there wearing a governor rest.
Speaker 2: In t shirt.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 1: But Olivia's bitey senses catch that, right, because when she's
Speaker 1: having that little talk with with Jerry and Karen, she
Speaker 1: then she talks out and remember who she talks about.
Speaker 1: She's like there was something off. I'm not sure what
Speaker 1: it is, but look into those kids, and she was right.
Speaker 3: She was spault spolt on.
Speaker 2: Okay, what else did we like in this episode? I'm okay.
Speaker 2: I wrote and add Non and Harrison fuck again.
Speaker 1: Yay?
Speaker 3: Yeah it sure did.
Speaker 4: They have sex again? I think the entire section Melly
Speaker 4: is going down on andrew daughter. Karen walks in sees
Speaker 4: it storms out, Melly goes running after her. Karen is crying,
Speaker 4: and Fits also comes in, and now every buddy's there,
Speaker 4: and Karen's like, Melly.
Speaker 2: Is screwing Uncle Andrew and Fits.
Speaker 4: That's how Fitz learns that Melly is having an affair
Speaker 4: with his best friend of a million years, who's sharing
Speaker 4: the ticket with Andrew Nichols. And I just love so
Speaker 4: much how that all unraveled. And then it's just so
Speaker 4: sad because they're in this horrible fight and we realize
Speaker 4: that Fits isn't upset because she's cheating. He's upset because
Speaker 4: he just thought she was like done with being sexual,
Speaker 4: because we flashed back to the time when Jerry Grant
Speaker 4: raped her, and every time after that that Fitz would
Speaker 4: try to touch her, she like cowers.
Speaker 2: Away, and obviously there's so much trauma there.
Speaker 4: And he was like, I just thought you fell out
Speaker 4: of love with me, you didn't like sex anymore, and
Speaker 4: you had the baby, and that happens to women sometimes
Speaker 4: when they get pregnant and have babies, and Babe didn't
Speaker 4: want me, and he was like, really, I'm just heartbroken
Speaker 4: that it's not that you didn't want sex.
Speaker 2: It's that you didn't want me me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was such a great scene.
Speaker 1: But then you see it on Bellamy's face, on Melly's
Speaker 1: face that she wants to tell him, but she just can't.
Speaker 1: She knows that it'll destroy fits if she tells him
Speaker 1: that your dad raped me.
Speaker 3: That's time.
Speaker 2: I'm like, can she just tell him?
Speaker 3: Oh, just fucking tell him. Isn't he dead at this
Speaker 3: point already?
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's dead, Just tell him.
Speaker 4: Maybe she's I think she's not really telling him because
Speaker 4: she's still afraid that the sun might not be fitz.
Speaker 3: Oh. Maybe at this point she's.
Speaker 4: Like situation, yeah, and I think she's more heartbroken that
Speaker 4: their kid might not be theirs.
Speaker 3: It might be, yes, yes.
Speaker 1: But there's also that moment, Katie that you were just
Speaker 1: talking about when Karen walks in on Melly on her
Speaker 1: knees and she storms out, and then Olivia comes out
Speaker 1: and bumps into Melly with her dress half off and
Speaker 1: Mellie's and Olivia's like, oh my god, oh my god.
Speaker 4: Again we lock them doors, lock them doors, Like why
Speaker 4: are you locked them doors?
Speaker 1: With the White House like you're doing this. Do you
Speaker 1: think Bill Clinton locked that door when he was doing
Speaker 1: the nasty Monica Lewinsky.
Speaker 4: He must have he must have adored.
Speaker 2: I can't.
Speaker 4: There's like a very sexual moment for people who like
Speaker 4: the steamy, steamy sins.
Speaker 2: Of Steamy Sins of Scandal.
Speaker 4: But I wrote whoa Fitz and Olivia are making out
Speaker 4: in their area of the Oval office, and at the
Speaker 4: same time, Millie and Andrew were making out in the
Speaker 4: dining room and it's hot and he's like asking her
Speaker 4: do you like it there or there? And she's like
Speaker 4: both And it's like heavy breathing.
Speaker 3: What the what?
Speaker 1: And people are worried about me having sex in my trailer. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: this show, look at this, He's got his hand up
Speaker 1: her skirt.
Speaker 3: You like it there or there?
Speaker 2: Who is writing this?
Speaker 4: And also yay us, I'm always about it because I'm like,
Speaker 4: you know what, our show was super violent. I feel
Speaker 4: like Shanda used to always be like, it's crazy how
Speaker 4: standards and practices the organization that sort of clears what
Speaker 4: can be put on a network show. It's like unbelievable
Speaker 4: what goes through in terms of violence, but what oh
Speaker 4: yeah gets flagged in terms of sexual activity.
Speaker 2: It's just crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's such a it's such a I don't know
Speaker 1: if double standard is the right word or it's shocking
Speaker 1: that they'll show like someone's head getting blown off, Yes,
Speaker 1: but if you put your hand up someone's skirt, like
Speaker 1: that's an issue.
Speaker 2: Yeah, or you know what I meanst once like sexes
Speaker 2: like yes.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 1: Another scene, Katie that stuck out to me. In this episode,
Speaker 1: there's a phone call between Maya Pope and Olivia and
Speaker 1: where Live calls Maya a terrorist and Maya's all, Sweetie,
Speaker 1: you're the help doing this work for all these white people.
Speaker 3: What about you, girl?
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna how about I don't mess into your
Speaker 1: business and you don't go into my business and will
Speaker 1: be good. Oh but that's such a powerful scene because
Speaker 1: that's that you could see the light bulb go off
Speaker 1: in Olivia's head of her thinking, oh my god, am
Speaker 1: I just the help?
Speaker 4: And she feels like the help in this episode. I mean,
Speaker 4: I might be a dick, but like, yeah, she's running
Speaker 4: around cleaning up oh yeah, after their stupid, fucking trivial
Speaker 4: family scenes to get this family in a place where
Speaker 4: they could do a family interview that's supposed to help
Speaker 4: him and his election to second term. And it's like
Speaker 4: the whole time she's running around cleaning up you know
Speaker 4: this one, give it a blowjob to this one and
Speaker 4: this son fucking wearing this T shirt and wearing this
Speaker 4: Twitter account and like Karen won't go on in the
Speaker 4: school play.
Speaker 2: Or like whatever it is.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then this follows itself where she asks Cyrus,
Speaker 4: She's like, are we just the help? Like what am
Speaker 4: I doing? Is this worth it? Like I am like
Speaker 4: this sucks.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But then and it's also it's such a power scene
Speaker 1: when Fits is arguing with Mellie after he finds out
Speaker 1: that she's messing around with Andrew Nichols, and Olivia comes
Speaker 1: in and she's like, you guys, you have to knock,
Speaker 1: and Fitch turns on her and says, I'm.
Speaker 3: Talking to my wife. Oh, and that just is she feels.
Speaker 4: Like the help, she shook. Yes, she feels like the help.
Speaker 4: She feels like the mistress, she feels like the woman,
Speaker 4: she feels like a side piece, she feels all those
Speaker 4: things tiny and shitty.
Speaker 1: And yeah, but in an instant he regreted immediately, Yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: such a great.
Speaker 2: Scene, such a great scene.
Speaker 1: But then from that point on, Olivia's like, this is
Speaker 1: my job. I am here to work. This is my job.
Speaker 3: She's like, oh no, no more of this help nonsense.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we will be back with more after the break.
Speaker 2: Wait, what the hell is Hawk doing in this episode?
Speaker 1: In this episode, he's trying to get Quinn back. Remember,
Speaker 1: he's trying to get her out of be six thirteen.
Speaker 2: This is that scene, Kata this Hollywood Cemetery.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, oh my god, I remember Tony Goldwyn directing
Speaker 4: this scene with us.
Speaker 2: Do you remember this?
Speaker 1: I remember shooting it at Hollywood Cemetery. I remember being
Speaker 1: there with you, but I don't remember him directing it.
Speaker 3: Isn't that weird?
Speaker 2: This is what I remember?
Speaker 4: Okay, So for gladiators listening, this is the scene where
Speaker 4: obviously Huck and Quinn have like texted and be like,
Speaker 4: let's meet at this super fucking shady bridge in this
Speaker 4: terrifying cemetery because this is the ship that turns us on.
Speaker 4: We're standing on this bridge and we're both in our
Speaker 4: leather coats and I lick your face. Oh and then
Speaker 4: we make out yeah pretty hotly in my opinion.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, she says, yeah, that says something like you
Speaker 1: were ready to kill me and you licked my face.
Speaker 1: You were ready to kill me. But then when your
Speaker 1: tongue goes in my mouth, that's a whole different story.
Speaker 1: Now that changes everything. And then Quinn licks huck and
Speaker 1: she's like, I'm to give you a taste of your
Speaker 1: own medicine.
Speaker 4: But yeah, oh, you pull my teeth out, you lick
Speaker 4: my face. And now that I've shoved my tongue down
Speaker 4: your throat, Oh now you like me. Now you want
Speaker 4: me back, Now you want me a O pa.
Speaker 1: Yes, because the last time we saw them make out
Speaker 1: was in Quinn's apartment when they have that.
Speaker 2: Where he and what I'm lying to Charlie about, nothing happened.
Speaker 4: He didn't do anything. He pushed me, like, we didn't
Speaker 4: make out. I'm not super into this dude.
Speaker 3: Super yes, yes, super We take.
Speaker 4: Out And this is what I remember about twenty Goldwin
Speaker 4: saying it was we shot that scene at night.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and it was really dark.
Speaker 4: This is our six degrees of horror because we literally
Speaker 4: for g on this episode because we literally shot this
Speaker 4: scene in the Hollywood Forever Cemetery, which was so cool
Speaker 4: to do.
Speaker 3: It's so cool. It's such a beautiful space.
Speaker 4: It's such a beautiful cemetery, and it's so filled with
Speaker 4: just Hollywood legends. Yeah, and you Ben Garland watch movies there,
Speaker 4: Judy Garland.
Speaker 3: Judy Garland is buried there. Who else? I feel like
Speaker 3: Marilyn Monroe may. I don't know. It's just a ton of.
Speaker 4: I want to see, but I do remember Tony Goldwyn,
Speaker 4: who's like the king of on camera makeouts, who's buried
Speaker 4: hold On in Hollywood Forever Cemetery. He came up to
Speaker 4: us and said, you know, it's really dark and you
Speaker 4: guys are just like smashing your faces into each other
Speaker 4: to make out, which obviously we were very good at that,
Speaker 4: but he was like, I need there to be some
Speaker 4: like some breaking a part of the kissing because I
Speaker 4: am having a hard time seeing it because it's all
Speaker 4: this looking like a dark mashed potato.
Speaker 2: And do you like my direction there?
Speaker 4: I love it, And instead, so I think that's why, Like,
Speaker 4: if you really study our smooching in that scene, it's
Speaker 4: a lot more like I think you can just see
Speaker 4: a little bit more space between our we.
Speaker 1: Make out close up and then I pull your face
Speaker 1: back and what we wanted and then we both stick
Speaker 1: out our tongues, do you remember, and we like our
Speaker 1: licking each other's tongues.
Speaker 3: It's fucking crazy. I just watched it yesterday.
Speaker 2: Oh my god. Coordinator like, oh how do you do that?
Speaker 4: Now you have to be like, I think this is
Speaker 4: the part where your lung tongue licks your tongue but
Speaker 4: your lips aren't touching these we are sick.
Speaker 3: Ohs I love it, okay, but it's such a good scene.
Speaker 1: And then Quinn walks away, she gives she makes out
Speaker 1: with him, does all that, and she's yeah, that's right,
Speaker 1: that's how it is or something like that, and I
Speaker 1: say that, yeah, yeah, you say, yeah, that's how it is.
Speaker 1: And Hawk is just standing there like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I love Gwynn.
Speaker 2: Okay, this is crazy.
Speaker 4: This is who's buried there, Demil, Rudolph Valentino, Mickey Rooney,
Speaker 4: Tyrone Power, Douglas Fairbanks, Johnny and d Ramone, Chris Cornell,
Speaker 4: Humphrey Bogart, Elizabeth Taylor, Senser, Tracy, Jimmy Stewart, Michael Jackson.
Speaker 4: This is the other location, Nat King, Cole, Natalie Cole
Speaker 4: Garland place is Why did everyone want to get buried there?
Speaker 4: I haven't seen Judy Garland's gravestone? Have you ever seen that?
Speaker 3: I have I've seen it. Yeah, is it cool? It
Speaker 3: is really cool. It is. I'm so happy we got
Speaker 3: to film there, I know.
Speaker 4: And it's really cool because there's a ton of like mausoleums, yes, yes,
Speaker 4: and building structures that are really cool.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: Do you remember the scene to Katie where we're making out.
Speaker 1: I think after we're done making out in the shot,
Speaker 1: put sort of pulls in switches into a wide You
Speaker 1: just see this random swan just swim up right below us.
Speaker 3: Do you remember that.
Speaker 2: I totally remember that. I feel like it's in the shot.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh yeah, it's totally in the shot. But that's
Speaker 3: a show swan people.
Speaker 4: It was awesome to shoot there, and I love shooting
Speaker 4: that scene, and I feel like it's an iconic, iconic
Speaker 4: awesome quinnin Hook.
Speaker 1: Insane Listen, there's a lot of punching in this episode.
Speaker 1: Huck Punch is a B six thirteen agent fits punches
Speaker 1: Andrew Nichols and Quinn and Huck punch each other with
Speaker 1: their tongues. There's a lot of punching in this episode, y'all.
Speaker 4: Where we covered I don't remember anything about the fashion
Speaker 4: to you, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't the horror stuff. Listen, Mattalie Carroll who played Karen.
Speaker 1: That's her name right, the daughter?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 3: Is it Karen? She was on R.
Speaker 1: L Stein a TV series called The Haunting Hour and R.
Speaker 1: L Stein is the person that created Goosebumps. Do you
Speaker 1: remember Goosebumps? Of course?
Speaker 3: I love I Love Goosebumps.
Speaker 1: And then they made the movie with Jack Black and
Speaker 1: Dylan Mannette is the lead guy in Goosebumps the movie.
Speaker 2: Who's Dylan Mannette?
Speaker 3: He plays Jerry.
Speaker 2: Oh my god? Did Jerry and Karen have like a
Speaker 2: couple degrees separation.
Speaker 3: Of Yes, they sure do. But also Katie.
Speaker 1: One of my favorite things in this episode is at
Speaker 1: the end when everybody makes up and they're like, Okay,
Speaker 1: we're gonna be good to each other, We're gonna make
Speaker 1: this interview work. And they all sit down, but then
Speaker 1: Olivia walks in with freaking baby Gomez from Adam's family.
Speaker 1: The little baby what's his name? I was like, what
Speaker 1: is he?
Speaker 3: Teddy?
Speaker 1: I was like, what is this freaking little baby Gomez
Speaker 1: freaking Adam's family doing here?
Speaker 3: Where's the mustache?
Speaker 2: Baby Gomez? I am dis ceased baby Gomez?
Speaker 4: But does he look and I'm still sticking to my
Speaker 4: story that baby Teddy was a girl that they kept
Speaker 4: cutting to having boy haircuts. I really think that's what
Speaker 4: was happening, if I remember correctly, that happening in the trailer, and.
Speaker 3: Also wrote really quickly.
Speaker 1: Maddeline Cara, who played Karen, was also in a movie
Speaker 1: called When a Stranger Calls, which is an amazing.
Speaker 2: Hall She's really good at that shit.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, Now wait, Germo's Six Degrees of Horror.
Speaker 2: I see in our notes here.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah that.
Speaker 4: In addition to Friday the Thirteenth, Tony Goldwyn, who directed
Speaker 4: this episode, was in The belt Co Experiment in twenty sixteen,
Speaker 4: which is a twisted social experiment. Eighty Americans are locked
Speaker 4: in their high rise corporate office in book at That
Speaker 4: Columbia and it's scary. There's an episode of Really Known,
Speaker 4: an anthology about a man with a blog that searches
Speaker 4: for the truth behind supernatural phenomenon documents people's stories of
Speaker 4: their experiences with the unknown. And then oh, I didn't
Speaker 4: know this. He was in the Last House on the Left.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's right to well, I've.
Speaker 2: Ever seen that movie.
Speaker 3: You have to see it. It's really good, is it
Speaker 3: so scary?
Speaker 2: Was it so scary?
Speaker 1: It's scary, but it's not crazy scary. I don't think
Speaker 1: it's a super super scary film.
Speaker 3: But it's good. I think I could handle it. I
Speaker 3: could handle it like you could handle it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, some tweets.
Speaker 3: I have to whistle?
Speaker 4: Could we do it? Could we actually whistle? If you
Speaker 4: were going to whistle? The soundtrack to Scandal?
Speaker 3: Oh god, I'm a terrible whistler.
Speaker 2: How does it go?
Speaker 4: It's really hard because it's not really like a melody?
Speaker 4: What's the one minute song?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: I don't even know. I'm errol. I can't, I can't,
Speaker 3: I can't.
Speaker 4: Okay, we tried, We tried, But let us read some
Speaker 4: of your tweets. Okay at no MG just Jordan Jasimone
Speaker 4: tweeted on March twenty seven to twenty fourteen, my TV family,
Speaker 4: Quinn will come back one day.
Speaker 2: Oh she likes Quinn.
Speaker 1: Let's see bella Dame noir, tweeted Tony Goldwin. Since you
Speaker 1: directed tonight's episode, nothing will be FITs' fault?
Speaker 3: Right? Please say you edited that out? At Tom Verica
Speaker 3: hashtag scandal.
Speaker 2: Oh well that means, but what the hell is I
Speaker 2: think she's.
Speaker 1: Trying to say that it ends up looking like none
Speaker 1: of this was fits his fault, which I don't agree with.
Speaker 1: I think you see again the regret when he yells
Speaker 1: at Olivia and.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all of that.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Emily Favreau tweeted a picture, Hey at Tony goldwhen
Speaker 4: we think you look like at TVA eight who also
Speaker 4: worked in the White House.
Speaker 2: Think Fitz would hire him? Who is that?
Speaker 1: No? I don't know, but no, they look related. They
Speaker 1: look related, but they don't look alike.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they look related that the one on the right
Speaker 4: is a ginger.
Speaker 3: These yeah.
Speaker 2: Side yeah.
Speaker 1: Abby at Abby Shobs tweeted quinnin Huk are weirdos side?
Speaker 3: What do you call that? Side glance? Yeah, we are
Speaker 3: weird is good, weirdest good Abby.
Speaker 2: Weird is good.
Speaker 4: Abby at Nikki Loves tweeted when Fitz finds out he
Speaker 4: ain't the daddy, that scandal episode will be e mosh.
Speaker 3: I don't know what either. It's a tay.
Speaker 2: That's not what happened, right, that ends up daddy is
Speaker 2: the daddy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's see. Tazzy Aria tweeted Glass Houses Olivia ashta scandal.
Speaker 3: She's not wrong.
Speaker 1: She's not wrong because she was all pissed at Melly
Speaker 1: having fucking around with Andrew Nichols, and she's like.
Speaker 2: Girl, She was like, you can't do this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like, you're screwing the president.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're screwing the dang president. At Shonda Rhyme's replying
Speaker 4: to at nerd Lady twenty one and at TV, Taylor tweeted,
Speaker 4: you can definitely eat during tonight's scandal Tonight's surprises, but
Speaker 4: not the kind that will make you nauseous.
Speaker 3: Oohoo, I guess our kissing didn't make them nauseous.
Speaker 1: School school, Let's see the fitz Phone at the Fitzphone tweeted,
Speaker 1: I love Scandal and I love Olitz, but I've been
Speaker 1: waiting three years for proof that these kids exist.
Speaker 3: This is all I'm worried about right now. True.
Speaker 4: And then last one, ad Franco twelve tweeted, Fits is
Speaker 4: the worst that makes me feel better. It's not only
Speaker 4: Quinn haters in the house.
Speaker 3: Right, There's some Fits haters now too.
Speaker 2: And now, what is this?
Speaker 4: Episode? Three sixteen? Next up is called the Fluffer Sluffer?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 1: I don't remember? I guess we'll find out when we
Speaker 1: watch it. I don't remember a fluffer is like in
Speaker 1: porn films, the person that will go and twiddle your
Speaker 1: your nuts and your wiener to get you to have
Speaker 1: a boner so you could get ready to shoot the scene.
Speaker 3: A fluffer.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, you're I literally thought you were joking
Speaker 4: and I just looked it up on Wikipedia. Yeah, a
Speaker 4: fluffer is a person employed to keep a porn performer's
Speaker 4: penis erect on the set. What are fluffing duties? But
Speaker 4: you know what fluffing can mean?
Speaker 2: Hold on a second, This is what I thought.
Speaker 4: It's a practice in public relations of spinning a topic
Speaker 4: to present it in the most positive light.
Speaker 2: That's what it is. It's not regards to porn, but.
Speaker 3: There it's both.
Speaker 1: I think it's both because that's definitely a slang word
Speaker 1: in porn, a fluffer. There's a fluffer on set that
Speaker 1: does that.
Speaker 4: There's also a fluffer London Underground, a person who cleans
Speaker 4: the tunnels during the night while the trains are not running.
Speaker 2: Ooh, who the.
Speaker 4: Hell knows where You're gonna have to tune in to
Speaker 4: the next episode for us all to learn. Because it's
Speaker 4: called the fluffer. Fluffer and it's probably awesome. We probably
Speaker 4: have an amazing guest. Yes, we love you guys. This
Speaker 4: episode really made me laugh.
Speaker 3: These was fun. This was fun to tape.
Speaker 2: Thanks glad. If you're singing with us, we know what
Speaker 2: you like the fancy guests.
Speaker 4: But sometimes G and I just want to be selfish
Speaker 4: and we only want to hang out with each other.
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