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Speaker 4: October twenty fifth, and we're doing our NBA preview.

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Speaker 2: Jackson.

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Speaker 4: Did you work with with Jonathan Kerman at The Ringer?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he was. He was someone who shocked the funk

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Speaker 1: I thought he was like a super bad Yeah. I

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Speaker 4: And he is black. He's a black kid.

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Speaker 2: I was like, what the fuck? He's very black.

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Speaker 4: I couldn't believe it what I thought. He really could.

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Speaker 3: He got the disappointed like, oh, you're a white Like.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, it's Jeff a black or white name.

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Speaker 3: Jeff goes both.

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Speaker 4: When I think I got, I got six and one

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Speaker 4: Gonna do our NBA preview and our usual Jenkinson Jones way,

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Speaker 4: I'm always very excited for this episode because I've written

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Speaker 4: That was one of those ones that I got, like

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Speaker 1: You remember when we were kids and they had like

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Speaker 3: Robert Submitt had me by the throat dog. I would

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Speaker 3: I ain't embarrassed about ship doog.

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Speaker 4: It's great, all right, do you guys want to start

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Speaker 4: with the West of the East? Let's keep it in

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Speaker 4: the west, all right, Okay, okay, So we got about

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Speaker 4: the West. I've gone with the espn geeah. I just

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Speaker 4: purped all over the NBA preview.

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Speaker 3: That's tough.

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Speaker 2: We didn't hear you, Oh Maybey heard you on that side.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I think that might probably I think I moved away

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Speaker 4: should go with the burp.

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Speaker 3: The way you look, you look, it's like you looked

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Speaker 3: at the Burt, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Was it that was to the Burt where you kind

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Speaker 3: But but even though there's no color, like yeah.

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Speaker 4: All right, in the West, I've gone with the ESPN

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Speaker 4: preseason rankings. Uh, you know we can we can attack

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Speaker 4: those if we would like as well. But number one,

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Speaker 4: I don't think there's any question the Denver Nuggets.

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Speaker 1: Yes, they are for sure the best team in the West.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure if they'll get that one seed because

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Speaker 1: you know how championship teams got to take their foot

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Speaker 1: pace of the grind right, so there's no telling that

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Speaker 1: they will be a one seed in the playoffs. But

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Speaker 1: they are for sure the best team in the West,

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Speaker 1: no question, Definitely the best team in the West. Bro

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Speaker 1: the way they looked last night bro likeable. They look

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Speaker 3: Like I mean the people that they have stepping up,

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Speaker 3: like Payton Watching and Ship, they look like they're ready

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Speaker 1: So are they Are they going to run it back?

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Speaker 1: I think they make it to the finals. I think

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Speaker 3: I think I'm certain to make it to the finals.

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Speaker 3: That's a good Lakers team, and they made it like

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Speaker 3: easy working. At no point did I think the Lakers

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Speaker 4: So I also think they make it back to the finals.

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Speaker 5: And I think that in terms of the one seed,

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Speaker 5: unless Jokic gets hurt, I think they get it again.

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Speaker 5: Jokic feels like a mid two thousands bronze level floor

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Speaker 5: he's so unguardable.

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Speaker 4: Is there something to the you know, the NBA. You

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Speaker 4: clearly if you listen to the run up, it's like

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Speaker 4: no one really wants to talk about the Nuggets It's

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Speaker 4: like you want to talk about are the Celtics good

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Speaker 4: enough or the Bucks good enough? For the Lakers good enough?

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Speaker 4: Is there something to that? Like, do you think that?

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Speaker 4: I mean, Michael Malone seems like he's going to be

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Speaker 4: do you, like, do you guys agree with that approach

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Speaker 4: or should it be? They're probably the best team that

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Speaker 4: of time slurping on their nuts, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, you gotta put Yolkic on that ground.

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: So, I mean, yeah, he's the best player in the world.

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Speaker 3: In me, I mean, he looked like it last night.

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Speaker 3: He's looked like in the playoffs, you feel me? Why

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Speaker 3: did last season. You know, I mean some of those

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Speaker 2: Bro.

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Speaker 3: He's just so strong and so athletic. They're fucking good man.

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Speaker 4: I think Jokisch is the perfect like attack point of

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Speaker 4: not saying that takes anything away from him being the

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Speaker 3: I completely agree with that statement.

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Speaker 4: But it is this interesting thing of like, if you're

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Speaker 4: Like they put the correct four people on the graphic,

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Sure they have put five

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Speaker 4: and had Yokje on there. Sure, but do we really

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Speaker 4: players by like preview graphics. I don't know how it

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Speaker 4: feels like the Nuggetbody, does you know what I mean? Yeah,

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Speaker 4: that feels like the Nuggets Like that feels like their

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Speaker 4: season story every like Michael Malone is so good at that.

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Speaker 4: You know that story, But I don't know it. I

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Speaker 1: I think that was a legitimate grind for them to act,

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Speaker 1: asks for them to grind last season. Like I'll a

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Speaker 1: lot of us were non believers in Denver. This whole

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Speaker 2: Type of defense I have Katie shot seven for twenty two.

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Speaker 3: I just don't see them. I don't even know if

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Speaker 3: They have a great offense with that defense is can

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: And that that and that Warriors team isn't all that good,

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Speaker 4: Like, well, I agree with you, but per ESPN number three,

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Speaker 4: I think the Warriors are going to be like a

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Speaker 4: You know, that's where I got the Warriors.

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Speaker 2: Packed there and they got go ahead.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I was gonna say, they've got a stretch coming up.

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Speaker 1: Let me pull this up where we're gonna find out

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Speaker 4: Give me just a.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, different things because of that motherfucking phone. You got

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Speaker 4: All right.

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Speaker 1: So so that these this is there, this is their

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Speaker 4: They got Sacramento at home.

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Speaker 1: They're going to OKC, they're going to Cleveland, they're going

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Speaker 2: I think it's hard even in the early the season.

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Speaker 3: I mean what New Orleans was like number one in

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Speaker 2: So I don't know, I feel like I mean I don't.

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Speaker 3: Even think they as good as they were last year,

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Speaker 2: Jordan pulled that lost in the regular season, he was

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Speaker 3: I don't see how the third five six would be

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I just felt like watching their watching their first

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Speaker 4: time you're just watching them play the Suns, who are

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Speaker 3: Professional basketball team. Bro.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I mean, it just it just felt

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Speaker 4: they're obviously they're they're super skilled. There's a lot of

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Speaker 4: Number four, Well, tough, tough start to the season for

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Speaker 3: Not idea.

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Speaker 1: It's it really just I don't don't don't know how

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Speaker 1: you know, we have those games where he is just

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Speaker 3: I don't. I don't like a team that depends on

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Speaker 3: I mean? Also, like, do we expect Austin Reeves to

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Speaker 2: Hachi?

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Speaker 3: Mari?

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Speaker 2: Do we expect the playoff? Hachi? I mean we're.

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Speaker 3: Expecting a lot out of players that you know, haven't

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Speaker 3: Like you know, Christian would what's all boy?

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Speaker 2: We got from Atlanta?

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Speaker 3: Oh? I think Cam rettis? I think we got him

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Speaker 3: from I think it was with the Knicks, like Cam. Oh,

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Speaker 3: Cam has got a shot.

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Speaker 2: Yet, He's been on four fucking teams.

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Speaker 2: You know, I like Cam. I want Cam to be

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Speaker 3: But like what we expect out of a lot of

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Speaker 2: Gave Vincent. Is he gonna be what he was in

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Speaker 2: I think they're a good four seed.

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Speaker 3: I think, but I think, like I just I just

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Speaker 2: I think I'll make it to the West Finals.

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Speaker 3: I mean Broadby be playing more than thirty minutes in

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Speaker 3: the playoffs for sure, But I think Tyler, I think

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Speaker 3: like he made it two quarters of looking like Tyler's

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Speaker 4: He's thirty, he's not one speech away from like it

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Speaker 4: I don't know that there's a player with more space

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Speaker 4: on he could be the best player on a championship team. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: and he could not score for twenty four minutes in

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but but the highs are just so high. It's

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Speaker 1: like you don't ever fully give up on that dude, right,

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Speaker 4: Sure, And I still love him as a player. I mean,

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Speaker 4: I you know, like I don't. I don't hold his

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Speaker 4: It's just it's as a fan of the team.

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Speaker 3: It's frustrating.

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Speaker 5: Before you go, I can sense you fighting against like

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Speaker 5: like you're the Jedi fedting against the sit the Republican

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Speaker 5: round ball hat you want to put on. Make it

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Speaker 2: Of that game.

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Speaker 4: Bro let me let me let me say this. If

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Speaker 3: Get the team. Yeah, Like there's the hustle in the

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Speaker 4: Can't I like physically can't feel that way about basket

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Speaker 4: about black basketball players. I've never said that ship in

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Speaker 4: my life, Like, get on the floor.

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Speaker 2: The We don't need him to.

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Speaker 3: Average forty for like three weeks or four weeks like

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Speaker 3: a little big get down. Just give us a full

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Speaker 3: You don't need the super high highs if we can

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Speaker 4: Yes, they're they're good enough to win if they can

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Speaker 4: the grimpis mizzleis Memphis is in trouble.

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Speaker 1: Bro that that news about Steven Adams missing the whole season,

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Speaker 1: Brandon Clark's gonna be out a few months, Johs missing

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Speaker 1: twenty five games. They might dig themselves in the whole

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Speaker 1: early this season that they just cannot get out of.

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Speaker 1: I think I'm out on the Grizzlies.

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Speaker 3: Bro.

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Speaker 2: They're a playing team at best with all that going on.

443
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Speaker 4: Agreed, And then and you don't see a presence on

444
00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:39,040
Speaker 4: that team that guides them through that, you know what

445
00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:39,400
Speaker 4: I mean.

446
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Speaker 3: I think it's a critical part too.

447
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Speaker 4: Number six.

448
00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:44,399
Speaker 3: I've got this team much higher in the West than

449
00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:46,160
Speaker 3: ESPN does the Clippers.

450
00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:50,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I think that the Clippers the funk

451
00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:51,680
Speaker 1: around to be like a three seed.

452
00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:56,159
Speaker 2: Bro right, Like, what is that? The russ is incredible?

453
00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:58,640
Speaker 2: I don't I don't understand what is reasoning.

454
00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:02,440
Speaker 4: An assumption of injuries. I mean, there's the only way

455
00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:05,679
Speaker 4: you can feel about it. You can't do that.

456
00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:08,160
Speaker 3: You can't do that. You can't do that. We're looking

457
00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:10,600
Speaker 3: at the roster alone, you know what I mean? Like,

458
00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:11,399
Speaker 3: what is this?

459
00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:13,040
Speaker 2: We're looking at the team as a whole.

460
00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:14,840
Speaker 4: You don't think so you don't think you can bake it.

461
00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,159
Speaker 4: I mean I don't there's enough of a history. I

462
00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:18,760
Speaker 4: think it's the same thing with AD. They have the

463
00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:22,439
Speaker 4: Lakers fourth because they don't believe that Anthony Davis is

464
00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:24,400
Speaker 4: gonna play consistently, and they're like.

465
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Speaker 2: Consistently is different from being injured.

466
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Speaker 3: We're not baking in the fact he's gonna miss thirty

467
00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:30,840
Speaker 3: games because he's hurt, you know.

468
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Speaker 2: What I mean.

469
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Speaker 3: You're baking in the fact he's gonna be inconsistent on the court,

470
00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,600
Speaker 3: which makes sense. I mean, I don't think you can

471
00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:37,280
Speaker 3: do that with the Clippers, you know what I'm saying, Like,

472
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Speaker 3: I don't know when they're healthy they wanted to be

473
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Speaker 3: You can do that I'm curious. I mean, I don't

474
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Speaker 3: think that's the way you should approach it, you know

475
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Speaker 3: what I mean, Like you look at the players on

476
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Speaker 3: the team and you decide you can't you can't bake

477
00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:51,280
Speaker 3: it in the fact that Kawhi is gonna tear a

478
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Speaker 3: cl That's fucking wild, bro, you know what I'm saying.

479
00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:57,560
Speaker 2: I know they're not saying that, but that's what they're

480
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Speaker 2: saying without saying it. That's ridiculous to me on me.

481
00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:04,879
Speaker 1: Okay, I mean, are we baking in and and ACL injury?

482
00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,200
Speaker 1: Are we baking in colass and I'm not coming to

483
00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:07,680
Speaker 1: work today?

484
00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:08,360
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

485
00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:11,720
Speaker 2: Like like that this year? Right? You like, you can't

486
00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:12,480
Speaker 2: do that this year?

487
00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:12,800
Speaker 3: You know?

488
00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,080
Speaker 4: He said no, he said before the season, and I

489
00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:18,000
Speaker 4: take him at his word. He said, none of the

490
00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:20,520
Speaker 4: rules they have put in place would result in me

491
00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,960
Speaker 4: playing an additional game. I've been hurt as fun and

492
00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:24,959
Speaker 4: it is what it is.

493
00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:28,000
Speaker 3: But I think that that's like he's got chronic issues

494
00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:32,320
Speaker 3: that probably are not solvable. I mean, I like, you know, again,

495
00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:35,359
Speaker 3: this has had the best doctors, insurgeons presumably in the

496
00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:38,800
Speaker 3: world his whole career, and it's you know, the issues recur.

497
00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,640
Speaker 3: So there's something to that. I mean, they talked about that.

498
00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,680
Speaker 4: I'll never forget the article I read about Adrian Peterson

499
00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:48,119
Speaker 4: after his ACL surgery where the orthopedis. It was doctor

500
00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,680
Speaker 4: James whoever, you know, like the top guy. He was

501
00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:54,240
Speaker 4: quoted saying it was like the grossest sentence ever. He's like,

502
00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,199
Speaker 4: we opened his knee up and the cartilage was like

503
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Speaker 4: a newborns like I've never seen, and it was just like, oh,

504
00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,200
Speaker 4: I didn't know that, you know what I mean, Like

505
00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,520
Speaker 4: I didn't know that. Like I might have like you know,

506
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,080
Speaker 4: big years or small years, and my knee might like

507
00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:10,000
Speaker 4: be a sexy knee or an unsexy knee when it

508
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,959
Speaker 4: comes to functionality. But that's like there is something to that,

509
00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:13,399
Speaker 4: you know what I.

510
00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:16,520
Speaker 3: Mean from years of playing. Right, that's not he wasn't

511
00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:20,200
Speaker 3: born with shitty knees, right, kawhi No.

512
00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 4: I think some people no ap he was saying, he

513
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,080
Speaker 4: was like his knees were gorgeous, Like he looked like

514
00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,080
Speaker 4: he never put any work on him at all.

515
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Speaker 3: I thought, I think there's a newborn like he didn't

516
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,200
Speaker 3: have adult cartilage because he had less cartilage or something. No,

517
00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:33,159
Speaker 3: it's it's it's it's.

518
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:34,879
Speaker 1: Like baby, there was like no wear and tear on it.

519
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:38,120
Speaker 1: It was like, you know, and he ran in the

520
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:39,119
Speaker 1: he ran.

521
00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,600
Speaker 3: Violent as fuck. He ran in the way you don't

522
00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,000
Speaker 3: want running backs that want to play a lot have

523
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:49,320
Speaker 3: the long career run, you know what I mean? All right?

524
00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:51,320
Speaker 3: Number seven, the Sacramento Kings.

525
00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 2: I think did they lose anybody? They lose anybody? The Kings?

526
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Speaker 2: Why are they seven?

527
00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:03,639
Speaker 3: Because of them? Because because they're from second went, Yeah,

528
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:05,920
Speaker 3: because of the city therefore.

529
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I have to assume that's part of it.

530
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think that's around the right range.

531
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Speaker 1: I think they're like a five to a seven. You know,

532
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 1: I don't think that's egregious.

533
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Speaker 2: I mean, did we not see them play last year

534
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 2: and they have the same team. They don't they.

535
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Speaker 3: Think they're closer to five than the seventh person we

536
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 3: see last year? The Lakers got better. I just don't know,

537
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,400
Speaker 3: I just I don't know. I see that team being

538
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:31,400
Speaker 3: in the top four for sure.

539
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,720
Speaker 5: I think, I mean is probably that the Lakers got better,

540
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 5: the Sun's got better, the Warriors got healthier. Like Wiggans

541
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 5: missed like almost over half the season last year. So

542
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 5: like I think if you're like trying to do them

543
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,160
Speaker 5: like the calculus, that's why they're lower. But I agree

544
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 5: they probably should be higher because Dearn Fox is unstoppable.

545
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,639
Speaker 2: And they have them you know what I'm saying that,

546
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,960
Speaker 2: you know, yes, right, you feel me. I don't see that.

547
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:55,200
Speaker 2: I think they'll be top four.

548
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:55,880
Speaker 4: Number eight.

549
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 3: The Oklahoma City Thunder.

550
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 4: Sounds about right.

551
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 1: Okay, They're going to be a playoff team, not a

552
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 1: play in team this season.

553
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:11,440
Speaker 4: So ESPN says is their best bet for the Thunder.

554
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 4: Chet Holmgren as Rookie of the Year over Wemby and

555
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,160
Speaker 4: I forgot about this. If you were hurt your rookie year, you.

556
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:22,119
Speaker 3: Get another rookie year ship Yeah year with that?

557
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:23,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, what do you think?

558
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 3: I think.

559
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 4: The narrative is there for Wemby, Like, I don't see

560
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 4: anyone get rookie year. Let's let's let's cut it out.

561
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 1: I am going to enjoy the Chet versus Winby, you know,

562
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 1: competitions because like you know, Chet is kind of like

563
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 1: the closest physical specimen kind of to him, right, but

564
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 1: you know, women's gonna be busting his.

565
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 4: Ass, you know.

566
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be worth No, it's going to be

567
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 1: enjoyable to see, you know, this seven foot four guy

568
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 1: doing this to like, you know, a seven foot one guy.

569
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,359
Speaker 4: You know, that's gonna be an enjoyable part about it.

570
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 1: But but but but yeah, you know, Shay is just phenomenal.

571
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 1: First Team All Defense last year, thirty point per game.

572
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 1: He's unreal, you know, Chat you know, the two Jalens.

573
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 1: You know, I think, oh, I think this is the year.

574
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 1: Okay see makes some noise for sure.

575
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,639
Speaker 3: I think this year, okay see, Like I mean, I

576
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:12,359
Speaker 3: watched Shade last year because it was just interesting to

577
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,119
Speaker 3: watch him, like how he got to his spots. You know,

578
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,479
Speaker 3: I'm like, he just did what he wanted to do,

579
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 3: you know, I mean, he can't do anything, but he

580
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,239
Speaker 3: can do exactly what he wants and needs to do,

581
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:21,359
Speaker 3: which is fun to watch.

582
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:22,879
Speaker 2: But I think the team will be more fun to

583
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,639
Speaker 2: watch this year, So I probably watched watch more, much more.

584
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:26,120
Speaker 2: Okay see.

585
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 3: I think they're about they were They're supposed to be

586
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:35,199
Speaker 3: on that ranking though, for sure. Number nine the Timberwolves, Yeah, that.

587
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 4: Was about right.

588
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,160
Speaker 1: I think I think Kat and Ant you know, that's

589
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 1: a really great deal there. They were kind of figuring

590
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,159
Speaker 1: out how to how to use Rudy towards the end

591
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 1: of the season when he was, you know, before it

592
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 1: looking like perhaps the worst trade in NBA history. Right,

593
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:49,439
Speaker 1: they're kind of figuring it out there. I do think

594
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 1: that Ann is going to take a leap here. I

595
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 1: think that, you know, Ann is going to be an

596
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,679
Speaker 1: all NBA guy this season coming up.

597
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 4: So that sounds al right. I'm very excited for Ann

598
00:25:58,080 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 4: this season.

599
00:25:58,520 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 3: John.

600
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:00,440
Speaker 4: I want to know, are you are you a cat

601
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 4: fan now that you've had the personal experience with him

602
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 4: that was positive and everything, are you rooting for him?

603
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,439
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, yeah, I'm not going I'm not

604
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 3: buying a jersey, you know what I'm saying. But I'm

605
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 3: not gonna clown him no more, you know what I mean.

606
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 3: He was really kind to me, you feel me. I

607
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,159
Speaker 3: think that's weird if I were to clown him. Man,

608
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:15,880
Speaker 3: it was so nice.

609
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wish him the best this season. That's that's

610
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 2: where we are, number ten, the Pelicans.

611
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that that we're kind of like

612
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 1: you know, brandon Ingram. You know, we keep expecting him

613
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:33,439
Speaker 1: to take me and he's a great player, right, but

614
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 1: we keep expecting him to be you know, a superstar, right,

615
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:37,879
Speaker 1: Like the talent is there for him to be that.

616
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 1: Zion's got to stay out on the court. But when

617
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,159
Speaker 1: Zion is on the court, he is fucking unreal, right

618
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 1: Like he was a twenty seven point for game, sixty

619
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,399
Speaker 1: two percent shooter last year, Like just ridiculous.

620
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:46,640
Speaker 3: Right.

621
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,440
Speaker 1: So, if Zion can stay out there, if brandon Ingram

622
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 1: can you know, just just you know, kind of turn

623
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 1: that corner a bit, you know, they could be a problem.

624
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,400
Speaker 2: I think brandon InGaN was great last year.

625
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:58,360
Speaker 3: I mean when I when I was watch him play,

626
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:00,200
Speaker 3: I don't know, like you know, I thought he was

627
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:01,400
Speaker 3: I thought he was solid, Like he.

628
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,200
Speaker 2: Was close to an All Star play.

629
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,120
Speaker 3: He just doesn't have the narrative beyond him to get

630
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 3: him into the the on the All Star team. But yeah,

631
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 3: he was.

632
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 2: I thought he was solid.

633
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 3: I think, uh, you know, if you Zion can stay healthy,

634
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 3: I think they're if Zon can stay healthy, top five,

635
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,160
Speaker 3: you know, solid playoff spot.

636
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 2: If Zon can say, well, I'm in on them. I

637
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 2: liked him. I like the squad man.

638
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,160
Speaker 3: I do too, and I would have them higher too.

639
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 3: Here's a here's a good staff for you.

640
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 4: Seventeen and twelve last year in the twenty nine games

641
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 4: of Zion Paid played, that's that would put them on

642
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 4: pace over a full season if he's healthy, to tie

643
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 4: for third with the Kings in the West. But he

644
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 4: only played twenty nine games, and he and that has

645
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 4: been a number that has been hard for him to

646
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 4: play more.

647
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,920
Speaker 3: Than he was he was he was in the gymore

648
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 3: and he also stayed in New Orleans. Is working out

649
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 3: with the team much more this year. So if if

650
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,199
Speaker 3: this is, if there's a year, he's going to be

651
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 3: healthiest this year because of approaching his offseason.

652
00:27:58,520 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 2: So I hope.

653
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 3: So I still wonder if his body is you know,

654
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 3: he's got that newborn cartilage or not. Number eleven the

655
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 3: Dallas Mavericks.

656
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:11,160
Speaker 4: That's wild.

657
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:12,640
Speaker 2: You know, I think the MAVs.

658
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 1: I think the MAVs are built to be like a

659
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 1: fifty win team. I don't think they're gonna do shit

660
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. I think they're ceiling is perhaps winning

661
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 1: a first round game, perhaps, I'm a first round series. Perhaps,

662
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Speaker 1: but I could see them winning like fifty maybe and

663
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Speaker 1: not doing.

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Speaker 4: In the playoffs.

665
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Speaker 3: You know, they're small and the I mean and and

666
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Speaker 3: I mean they'll be fun, fun to watch and they'll

667
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,119
Speaker 3: they won't get their ass wolves.

668
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, But I don't think I

669
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Speaker 2: think they'll win.

670
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Speaker 3: I think they'll lose a lot of games, you know,

671
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Speaker 3: like Coastal margins in the eleven seeds should you know

672
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Speaker 3: what I mean. But I don't think they'll I don't

673
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 3: know if I mean, they're probably right outside of the playoffs.

674
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Speaker 2: To me, Okay, they're playing team, they're playing team. Let's

675
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Speaker 2: go quick on the lower.

676
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Speaker 3: Last for the Utah Jazz.

677
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 2: Hell fuck the Jazz, Fuck them.

678
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Speaker 3: Number thirteen the Spurs aka the Wemby's. I'm gonna be

679
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 3: watching the spot watching, but they're gonna lose a lot. Yeah, Yeah,

680
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 3: I'm watching as much as can though.

681
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 4: Number fourteen we talked about him quite a bit with

682
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Speaker 4: Ian Carmel the Trailblazers.

683
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Speaker 1: Yike Scoot's Gonnaot's gonna be fun, Anthony's gonna be fun,

684
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Speaker 1: Shayeown's gonna be fun, but they ain't gonna do a ship.

685
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 3: I'm gonna watch him. I'm gonna watch him. I like

686
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 3: this And number fifteen, the Houston Rockets.

687
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Speaker 4: Could possibly be the worst team in the league. Do

688
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 4: you agree with them as the last place team in

689
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Speaker 4: the West.

690
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I.

691
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Speaker 1: Think I think they're like a twenty two twenty five

692
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 1: one team. Bro Fred Lambe ain't gonna save you, dog,

693
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, man.

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Speaker 3: Respect to him, respectfully, you know, respect to that man.

695
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, respectfully. He's not gonna say, all right, let's move.

696
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 3: To the East. In ESPN's rankings.

697
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Speaker 4: There may be some controversy here with our mysterious producer,

698
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 4: but number one the Bucks.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that may coming out about it so much, you

700
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Speaker 1: know what I mean, Yes, there might pick to come

701
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Speaker 1: out the East that the final My finals is Milwaukee Denver.

702
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Speaker 3: I think they beat Denver too. I think that would

703
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 3: think so too, man. I think they beat Themver. I

704
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 3: think they beat them. But that team is just too solid.

705
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Speaker 1: There's some they've never believed in US few for you

706
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Speaker 1: Denver fans right there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's sort of hard to say. There's a

708
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 4: you know, they never believed in US fuel for the

709
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Speaker 4: for the Bucks. At this point, Yanna signs the extension.

710
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,479
Speaker 4: Everything looks great, but I just we've talked about it.

711
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 4: I actually watched some of their preseason games, which I

712
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 4: don't normally watch preseason stuff, but just to see what

713
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Speaker 4: the pick and.

714
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Speaker 3: Roll look like.

715
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Speaker 4: And you just have to assume that Dame and Giannis

716
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 4: are only going to get better and develop more chemistry

717
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Speaker 4: over the course of the season. But that's already such

718
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 4: a lethal fucking combination. And then you throw in the

719
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Speaker 4: fact that they did lose Drew, they lost some of

720
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Speaker 4: their depth, but Chris Middleton up there with the you know,

721
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Speaker 4: best third option in the league, you know what I mean, Like,

722
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Speaker 4: they've got they got dudes, ma I'm excited. Number two,

723
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Speaker 4: the Boston Celtics. So the bigger conversation, Jackson, I'm curious

724
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Speaker 4: for your thoughts. Is there a case for the Celtics

725
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Speaker 4: over the Bucks. I do think it feels like a

726
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 4: two team East this year. So you know, do you

727
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Speaker 4: guys agree Bucks coming out over the year what you

728
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 4: guys said you do? Jackson? Do you think the Celtics

729
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Speaker 4: have enough for the Bucks this year or no?

730
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Speaker 5: I think it's kind of a coin flip. Betwe the

731
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Speaker 5: Celtics and the Bucks. I think both teams have very,

732
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Speaker 5: very very talented top fours, and then both teams are

733
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 5: not particularly deep after that, Like we talked about the

734
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Speaker 5: Celtics not being deep, bringing like guys like Sam Houser,

735
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Speaker 5: Peyton Pritchard, like as some of their six seventh eighth

736
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Speaker 5: guys on the roster. But the Bucks also like their

737
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Speaker 5: top four Dame Middleton, Jiannis, Brook Lopez amazing, amazing, problem

738
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Speaker 5: maybe the best top four in the NBA. They're starting

739
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Speaker 5: shooting guard is either Malik Beasley, who couldn't get run

740
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 5: for the Lakers last year, or Pat Connington, who's like

741
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Speaker 5: extremely average. Their backup point guard is Cameron Payne, who

742
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 5: like had one good three week stretch for the Suns

743
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 5: two years ago. Bobby Portas is good. I do like

744
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 5: Bobby Portis, but like they're not the deepest team either,

745
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Speaker 5: So I think between those two teams that they're both

746
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 5: fully healthy. I think it's a coin flip. But in reality,

747
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 5: it probably comes down to who's health here. I think

748
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Speaker 5: it's about a coin flip the Bucks. I'm not sure

749
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Speaker 5: how far the Bucks go in the playoff last year,

750
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Speaker 5: I don't remember.

751
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 2: I forgot yeah, but they didn't have to.

752
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 3: That doesn't matter this right, and.

753
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Speaker 5: The Celtics got significantly I got a significant talent upgrade.

754
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Speaker 5: So I mean, I think the Bucks are I'm obviously

755
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 5: making a joke. The Bucks are way better than they

756
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 5: were last year. But the Celtics are better too, going

757
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 5: from Marcus Smart to an All Star level player, and

758
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Speaker 5: Drew Holliday is like, what would.

759
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Speaker 4: You say the biggest issue with the Celtics was last postseason, though, Like,

760
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Speaker 4: what was the thing you were most consistently frustrated.

761
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 5: I was most consistently frustrated by their late game offensive

762
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 5: execution and by their coaching and by their coaching. And

763
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Speaker 5: I think and after I mean, I'm drinking the kool aid.

764
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Speaker 5: But after watching Joe Mizzula's uh interview with JJ Reddick

765
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Speaker 5: on JJ's podcast, I was like reminded. And I mean, a,

766
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 5: he's just like more likable that you get to see

767
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 5: him talking. He was going to see him be a

768
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Speaker 5: real person. But I was just like reminded, Like, oh right,

769
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Speaker 5: he became a first time NBA head coach with three

770
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Speaker 5: days until the season started. Like any philosophies he theoretically

771
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 5: has as a coach, he can't install them, he doesn't

772
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Speaker 5: have any time. They don't practice in the NBA during

773
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Speaker 5: the season. Like did he look pretty ugly at times

774
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Speaker 5: as a coach? Yes, he also had no time to

775
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Speaker 5: be prepared for that. So I'm hopeful as a optimistic

776
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Speaker 5: fan of the team that after a full offseason, lots

777
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Speaker 5: of him having way more time to talk to any

778
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Speaker 5: mentors that he has to talk to the team, all

779
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 5: of those things, that that problem isn't as big as

780
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Speaker 5: a problem as it was last year.

781
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Speaker 4: He probably ran what's the movie he watched?

782
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 5: He probably watched the Town six hundred times in the

783
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Speaker 5: last three months.

784
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Speaker 3: He probably ran the heighest back a couple extra times.

785
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Speaker 2: He probably did go. Do you think the Celtics as

786
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 2: an entire team got better? I do think that. I

787
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 2: think that upgraded. And you know, so I think I

788
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 2: think you know.

789
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Speaker 3: Drew they Yeah, but that depth allowed him to be

790
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Speaker 3: the most offensively efficient team in the history of the

791
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Speaker 3: NBA at one point.

792
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean. So you think that

793
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 2: team got better? I think they got better.

794
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Speaker 5: I think I think. I think it comes down to,

795
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,280
Speaker 5: like we always talk about, like the first three quarters,

796
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Speaker 5: like do they matter?

797
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Speaker 2: I'm not sure?

798
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Speaker 5: Right, So then the fourth quarter you have, you have

799
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Speaker 5: your best players in the game, and I think their

800
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Speaker 5: top end talent is significantly better. I think going from

801
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Speaker 5: Marcus Smart to Drew Holliday is like a wash on

802
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 5: defense and like a significant offensive upgrade, significant.

803
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Speaker 4: And I think in terms of decision making, like you

804
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,399
Speaker 4: were saying, which obviously was such a weakness, like they

805
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 4: needed they needed exactly like the silhouette of Drew.

806
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Speaker 3: Guy, that same guy could it do the same thing

807
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Speaker 3: against the heat.

808
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Speaker 2: You feel what I'm saying.

809
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Speaker 4: Like, I'm not I loved he couldn't do the same.

810
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Speaker 2: I don't want the start of to be good.

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Speaker 3: But the thing is like in the big moments, you

812
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 3: know he was getting smacked. You know as well, you

813
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 3: feel me like what you needed in the bigger moments

814
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Speaker 3: against the same team he didn't have.

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Speaker 2: I think that's totally fair. So that's what I think.

816
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Speaker 5: My my perspective is because of the Yiannis injury during

817
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 5: the playoffs last year and the Middleton injury, Drew Holliday

818
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 5: is at this point in his career miscast as like

819
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Speaker 5: a lead offensive engine in the in the playoff game,

820
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Speaker 5: a play series against the defense if you need him

821
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Speaker 5: to be the second offensive player, and like a much

822
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Speaker 5: more steadying decision than Marcus Smart, who you're like, no, no, no,

823
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Speaker 5: please don't do that. Oh he made a shot, nice, great, right,

824
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Speaker 5: Like I love Marcus mart I truly to my I

825
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 5: love Marcus Smart. But as an offensive steadying presence, Drew

826
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Speaker 5: Holliday is a massive upgrade.

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Speaker 3: They've got number three, the New York Knickers.

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Speaker 4: M hmm. I don't know, you know, I could see that.

829
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Speaker 1: I could see the Knicks being a team that you know,

830
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Speaker 1: finishes with a very you know, impressive regular season record,

831
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Speaker 1: but I'm not trusting them in the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I could see that.

833
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Speaker 3: I guess that those top teams did get worse. It's

834
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Speaker 3: hard to magic. I don't think I've seen enough to

835
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Speaker 3: say that they're the third best in any conference, you

836
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Speaker 3: know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: I believe they're the only the only team with six

838
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Speaker 4: players in ESPN's Top one hundred. Yeah, so, I mean,

839
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Speaker 4: but obviously not top ten, guys. It's all thirty two,

840
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Speaker 4: ye through a little seventy four sprinkled in there.

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Speaker 3: I mean that, I think that makes it for them

842
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Speaker 3: to be the third best team that he's considering other

843
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 3: teams got, you know worse, you feel me right?

844
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Speaker 4: Seventy six years number four our favorite soaproper for the

845
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:50,839
Speaker 4: upcoming season. I could see that.

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Speaker 1: I think, you know, Nick Nurse can probably work, you know,

847
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 1: you know, do do good things at that ross that

848
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 1: they've got there. They're not going to have James Harden.

849
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Speaker 1: He is sticking to his guns. He's not enough for shit,

850
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: like he wants out for real. And I don't think

851
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:06,399
Speaker 1: he's gonna budge on that, you know, and Beads still

852
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:10,240
Speaker 1: a phenomenal player regular season. At least you got Maxi.

853
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 1: He's incredible too, So I can see that.

854
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,800
Speaker 3: I don't know Harden, is he gonna play? You feel

855
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 3: me like, I just I don't. I don't see it.

856
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 3: I think this is And I also think something like

857
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 3: that kind of like fucks up the rest of the

858
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 3: team where you know, I mean, I mean, the East

859
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 3: isn't all that good. But it's hard to say they'll

860
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Speaker 3: be the fourth best team, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: You would have to have a really strong, emotionally intelligent

862
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 4: leader to offset the ship that's gonna be happening with

863
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 4: James Harden.

864
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Speaker 3: And I don't see. I don't see they have that. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: One hund Number five Cleveland Cavaliers. The Cavs are what

866
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Speaker 4: the Kings were last year. For me, that would be

867
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Speaker 4: probably my league past team. I will be checking out

868
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,399
Speaker 4: the most just because they're I think they'll be really

869
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 4: fun to watch regardless of where they finish or what

870
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Speaker 4: they do in the playoffs. Yeah, Man Gardner, Mitchell Mobley,

871
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 4: Jared Allen, that's solid, man.

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Speaker 3: I think they saw this hill. I think they'll be

873
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 3: the third best. I think that team is better than Knicks.

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00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 3: I know the Knicks beat them. You know, they fucking

875
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 3: nutted up in that series, you know, and so I

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Speaker 3: feel like they learned from that. I think that team

877
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 3: is a better team all the way around than the Knicks.

878
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:19,879
Speaker 3: I think they'll probably be the third best team in.

879
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 1: The Yeah, could could possibly have the best back court

880
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 1: in the league, now that you know, lay Thompson's out

881
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 1: here looking like me out there.

882
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 2: So yeah, I love Garland too. DG is cold bro.

883
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 4: Yeah to watch.

884
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,320
Speaker 2: So they have a back Fords crazy.

885
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 4: Number six, the Miami Heat. Yeah, sounds about right.

886
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:39,359
Speaker 2: Sounds about right.

887
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 3: We'll see what happens in the playoffs, but but yeah,

888
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:42,919
Speaker 3: it sounds about right.

889
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 4: That's the East kind of tough because there's not that

890
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 4: many teams that are super exciting, and then you also

891
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,280
Speaker 4: feel like you know what will happen in the playoffs,

892
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 4: Like you you kind of wanted to be in one

893
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 4: or the other, you know what I mean.

894
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 3: They had some big losses, but you know, like that's

895
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 3: that's some big people that were big for them in

896
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 3: the playoffs that weren't big people in the season.

897
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see, we'll see, we'll see, we'll see.

898
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 4: How excited are you guys for the for the midseason tournament? Like,

899
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 4: I'm hoping that there will be enough real bump there

900
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 4: that will actually get like a playoff preview fairly early

901
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 4: of like what these teams will look like in you know,

902
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 4: nut up moments. Yeah, I'm loving it. I'm very much

903
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 4: looking forward to.

904
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 1: My only gripe is I wish that they air that shit,

905
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 1: Like like my favorite thing about the bubbles, how we

906
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 1: had all day basketball, right.

907
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 4: Like right, we've talked about, yeah, am playoffs exactly right.

908
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 1: I wish they got all some n C double A

909
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 1: ship air and games at you know, twelve pm, one

910
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:36,320
Speaker 1: pm and shit, that's my only gravity.

911
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 4: But I'm very much looking forward to how.

912
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 3: Many days isn't like three or four days?

913
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 4: The turnament isn't it, It's it starts.

914
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 3: You know, the seeding games are actually gonna start on

915
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:50,240
Speaker 3: Friday next week. Oh so I mean for the seating

916
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 3: games and then yeah, the tournament. Yeah, the tournament will

917
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 3: be uh will be more condensed than that, but not.

918
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 4: I agree with Tyler Man. If they made this all

919
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 4: day Thursday Friday with the you know, Saturday Championship or

920
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 4: some ship, I will be all over.

921
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:06,320
Speaker 3: But I'm excy seventh the Hawks.

922
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna watch a lot of Hawks basketball. I

923
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 2: just him.

924
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 3: I like that squad. I'm excited to watch him play.

925
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 3: They'll probably be seventh though I watched a lot of

926
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 3: them the last.

927
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 4: Few years, though, you know what I'm saying, That's how

928
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 4: I felt about the Kings last year, and then they

929
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 4: finished third, so who knows.

930
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:21,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love I love Trey.

931
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:22,879
Speaker 3: I love Trey. I think I think he has hated

932
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 3: all more than I think. I hit a down year

933
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 3: last year. I think he's gonna figure that out this year,

934
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 3: get back on you know what I'm.

935
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,320
Speaker 2: Saying, back to all star level quality players.

936
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,359
Speaker 4: So yeah, I love Trade.

937
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,439
Speaker 1: I mean, the numbers say he is perhaps the worst

938
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 1: defensive player in the league, but that shit don't matter

939
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:35,800
Speaker 1: to me.

940
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,439
Speaker 2: He ain't played for watching TV.

941
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 3: I'm turning off for forty foot for that dazzle, and

942
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 3: you feel me. I got a whole lot of that, right,

943
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 3: he got a little extra bit of that season. Yeah,

944
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 3: you know, opening them up for a container on his

945
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 3: ass with that rad you feel so. Number eight the Pacers, mhm.

946
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 2: I like, I like, I like caliber. Congratulations to you,

947
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 2: my guy, you know what I mean.

948
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 3: Number nine the Nets.

949
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: You know, I'm I'm I am interested in seeing what

950
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 1: Malik Bridges does this this upcoming season because that motherfucker

951
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 1: was looking all world after that trade. So I'm curious

952
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 1: to see what he does over the course of a

953
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:19,879
Speaker 1: full season where he's that guy.

954
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'll be watching it in the highlights.

955
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:30,800
Speaker 4: Number ten Pallo. I love Paalo and I'll leave it

956
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 4: at that.

957
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not we gonna watch Polo though when it

958
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:35,800
Speaker 3: involves him playing with the magic.

959
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 4: You know what I mean.

960
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 1: Bro, Pallo moves like Lebron James out there. I'm not

961
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 1: saying he's he is a Lebron James type player, but

962
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 1: you look at them, you know, the way he maneuvers

963
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,240
Speaker 1: in space, the way he dribbles, he reminds me of Lebron,

964
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 1: not the player, but the movements.

965
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 4: It's very Pallo is a very enjoble player to.

966
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 3: Watch the be that Number eleven Chanicago Balls, Shaun Congo

967
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 3: ball with no night cooled.

968
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 4: Jordanan NJ is not walking through the door US Arena.

969
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 4: It's time to blow that motherfucker up.

970
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 2: It's it's the already blown up.

971
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 3: Though.

972
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 1: I think that I think it's over with it. I

973
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 1: think they got pieces, man, I mean, I like, what's

974
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 1: what's what? What's the contract situation? It's is it? Is

975
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,439
Speaker 1: it Damar's contract year or Zach so both of them,

976
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 1: but either way, bro, it's it's time to get on

977
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 1: that phone.

978
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 4: Damar is in the last year of his contract and

979
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 4: he's he's eligible for a four year one hundred and

980
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 4: seventy nine. I don't see that happening with Chicago. I

981
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 4: agree with you, it's time to blow it up. I'm

982
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 4: surprised that it has not been blown up. They must

983
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 4: be waiting for someone's gonna overpay for Damar to try

984
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 4: and put them over the hump. In terms of the

985
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:44,799
Speaker 4: championship race, that's the only thing I can think.

986
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 2: What are the pieces Damar and Levigne?

987
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's those are pieces. I mean for a

988
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 4: championship contending team and one of those guys that the deadline,

989
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 4: would you know, I mean, that's a lot of draft picks,

990
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 4: whatever else are they going to get? And you know,

991
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 4: maybe they go, Okay, there's enough people moving around trade

992
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 4: requests there, you know, no one's moving the type of

993
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,840
Speaker 4: player they want. They must be looking for draft picks,

994
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:10,280
Speaker 4: you know, and you know, I mean it's the trade deadline.

995
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 4: Your team could win it. Ship you don't give a

996
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 4: fuck about those draft picks.

997
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 3: As a fan, I don't give a every trade deadline

998
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:20,439
Speaker 3: for the Lakers, like give up all of our draft

999
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 3: picks forever to get one good player.

1000
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,720
Speaker 2: I don't give Is there any more info? Alonzo?

1001
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, I mean he's he's basically not this year.

1002
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1003
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's there's concern that he might it might be done.

1004
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 3: It might be right. I heard that, but I thought

1005
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 3: he came out and saying that that was that he

1006
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 3: was feeling better, you know, and again like no, no,

1007
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 3: like no, he had to like back and forth with

1008
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 3: Stephen A.

1009
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 4: Smith where he was like, he's but but that's Stephen A.

1010
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 4: Smith's response where he was sort of backed up. He's like,

1011
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:51,840
Speaker 4: I'm not trying to be an asshole, man, but like

1012
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 4: I just have heard you're not gonna be able to

1013
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:53,879
Speaker 4: play basketball again.

1014
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, people close to you.

1015
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, Lonzo balls, I mean, and I'm gonna be sad

1016
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,879
Speaker 4: about that forever because his is a Gino Hills team.

1017
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 4: His senior year is the most fun high school basketball

1018
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:08,800
Speaker 4: I've ever seen. That shit was a circus bro always

1019
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 4: rooting for the ball brothers. People love making the jokes

1020
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:12,840
Speaker 4: about the shoes message, knees.

1021
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 3: Up or whatever.

1022
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 4: But it's what we were talking about with Kawhi, Adrian Peterson whatever. Man, Like,

1023
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 4: some people are born with a physical structure in their

1024
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 4: knees and their joints to handle this the grind of

1025
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:25,919
Speaker 4: being a pro athlete, and some people you just got

1026
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 4: the wrong knee like and there's just you know nothing,

1027
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 4: Like some people are wemby. You're seven foot four and

1028
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 4: you can fold yourself into a fucking paper clip for

1029
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 4: some fucking reason, but you can't stretch your way into

1030
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 4: knee health, you know.

1031
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:38,359
Speaker 3: What I mean.

1032
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 1: Like, Yes, it's a sad story lines because like, if

1033
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 1: you want to be a point guard who has a

1034
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 1: fifteen year career in the league, you need to lock

1035
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 1: up and be able to run an office.

1036
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 4: And Lonzo was so good.

1037
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 1: At doing both right right, And it's just coming to

1038
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 1: a sixty seven that position two like perfect.

1039
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 2: You feel me?

1040
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 4: First time I saw Lonzo ball sophomore, he was playing

1041
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 4: in the playoffs at Poly and I got, okay, everyone's

1042
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:02,360
Speaker 4: been saying this kid is good. This is really before

1043
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:05,280
Speaker 4: the ball stuff it exploded. The gym was only half empty,

1044
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 4: and I'm watching this kid. He's I think he's six,

1045
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 4: 't five or something at that time, sophomore. First play,

1046
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 4: guess a rebound and they were already on that cherry

1047
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 4: picking offense they ran at fucking Chino Hills. He gets

1048
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 4: the rebound, it's three people down the court. He threw

1049
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 4: the ball like a baseball. He threw an overhand with

1050
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 4: his hand on top of the ball and it was

1051
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 4: straight lined to the corner on the other end of

1052
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 4: the court way. And I did and I just like

1053
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:33,280
Speaker 4: I looked at I looked at Shell and I was like, okay,

1054
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 4: it didn't look like that on film, and it was again,

1055
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 4: he's a tenth grader, and it just was like, I

1056
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 4: have never seen a high school kid attempt that pass

1057
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 4: overhanded in that way off one hand, you know what

1058
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 4: I mean?

1059
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 3: All right?

1060
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 4: Number twelve. The Raptors trying to blow that up too.

1061
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 1: It's been tying to blow that shit up for a

1062
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 1: few years though, Like like bro, I just I don't know.

1063
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 4: Man comes a baller, but he ain't gonna save you.

1064
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 2: Dog. Seeah was a good player.

1065
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,479
Speaker 3: He's he's he's good if he's a third best player

1066
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 3: on the team I love. I don't even see a

1067
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 3: team that with him being a second best player being

1068
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:09,919
Speaker 3: a championship team.

1069
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 4: Number thirteen the Pistons. Yeah, that's a thirteen right there.

1070
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 4: I tell you that much in the running, in the

1071
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 4: running for number thirty, And.

1072
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 3: Be honest, I forgot the Pistons existence. It was interesting

1073
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 3: to see their name, like, oh, yeah, they are a

1074
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 3: team in the NBA.

1075
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, number four, But yeah, I don't know if he's

1076
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 1: musty TV just yet.

1077
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 3: There's too much other musky TV out there. That's the problem.

1078
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 3: Number fourteen the Hornets.

1079
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,319
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, the Hornets should be so much

1080
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:45,799
Speaker 1: better than what they're going to be, right Like, you know,

1081
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:51,280
Speaker 1: you got LaMelo Rosier. They should be about a five

1082
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 1: hundred team, but they're not.

1083
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 4: Going to do that.

1084
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 3: I don't think LaMelo Rose're gonna get you five hundred

1085
00:46:56,000 --> 00:47:00,120
Speaker 3: NBA Manah, Now, yet mellow stays hurt, you know, I

1086
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 3: mean and.

1087
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 4: Our last team, the Washington Wizards. I've got hired.

1088
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:12,399
Speaker 2: I'll watching them. I'm signing up for the Pool show.

1089
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 3: We go see. He might get three to one game

1090
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 3: and fifty the next, but I'm watch all of them.

1091
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 4: Who's the Israeli player they had they just signed to

1092
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 4: an extension to it. He was barking, he was open, yes,

1093
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:32,320
Speaker 4: thank you, and uh Pool Poll Poll shout the ball himself.

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Speaker 4: And then they get back to the bench and and

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Speaker 4: the h the dude from Israel is still like barking

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Speaker 4: at Pool, and Pool looked at me, is like we're good,

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Speaker 4: Like we know.

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Speaker 3: He's like, I saw you over there, Bro.

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Speaker 4: Kuzma standing behind Jordan Pool and just racking up just

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Speaker 4: like that's gonna be the vibes of the Wizards.

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Speaker 3: Bro, I'm glad.

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Speaker 4: I'm not a fan of that team, and they're gonna

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Speaker 4: be fun as Yeah, who's the Pool?

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Speaker 1: Are going to be a good buddy movie there, Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there'll be the fress Conference Team of the year,

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Speaker 3: you know whatever.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, well that's our preview.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for listening.

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Speaker 4: We'll be back on Saturday talking more basket hoops with

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Speaker 4: volume teammate Jason timp you can check that out, and

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Speaker 4: then our last live AMP episode on Sunday night, which

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Speaker 4: will be a Tomfoolery heavy episode for sure.

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Speaker 2: Talk to Bye Bye Bye the volume