1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: So many of you are already familiar with Steve Days, 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: the Steve Days Show on Blaze Media as someone who. 3 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 2: Begins school in sports radio WA show. 4 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: In the morning Iowa, but then pivot into political talk 5 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:18,159 Speaker 1: for obvious reasons. He's got a really, i'd say, a 6 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 1: jeweler's eye, like Blake William Buckley had a book was 7 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: the Jeweler's Eye. He's got a jeweler's eye for speaking 8 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: critically to cultural issues politics and speaks with a faith 9 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: based advocacy. But it's kind of curious. He's the best 10 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:35,559 Speaker 1: selling author Rules for Patriots in twenty fourteen and The 11 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: Liberal War on Transparency in twenty eighteen. But what's for 12 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,840 Speaker 1: those of you that are seven Mountain officionados. He also 13 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 1: produced the movie Nefarious, which my daughter was involved with 14 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 1: promoting in twenty twenty three, and that explores the demonic influence, 15 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: the demonic influence through a Christian lens, but you could 16 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: see it virtually in a whole lot of area other 17 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: than just Hollywood right now. So I want to welcome 18 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: Steve Days. Welcome to the show. I got to them. 19 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: I'm so glad you're here. 20 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 3: Good to see you, brother, Thank you. 21 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: I know what's percolating on the top of your list. 22 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: You're doing Blaze reporting, you're covering what are you? Are 23 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 1: you covering the shutdown? Are you covering the election result? 24 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:19,680 Speaker 1: To what's your audience resonating with? 25 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:24,199 Speaker 4: I think he answered all those questions is yes. And 26 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 4: you know, Lance, I think that there have been a 27 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 4: series of divine and providential clarifications over the last five years, 28 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 4: and I and maybe even over the last ten years. 29 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 4: And I think I think a lot of God's people 30 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 4: have prayed and wondered, how much longer are we going 31 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 4: to let this continue to suffer, to slouch, to gomorra, 32 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 4: to quote the late great Robert Bork. And I think 33 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 4: over the last ten years you have seen I think 34 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 4: the Lord Act. And I think that there's been a 35 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 4: series of events. I think Donald Trump is the most 36 00:01:56,760 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 4: clarifying force in American history. I've just never seen one 37 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 4: person provoke that. It provokes so many people to tell 38 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 4: us who they really are, uh than Donald Trump. And 39 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 4: I just I don't see how that's a natural explanation 40 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 4: for that. I think that is a supernatural phenomenon. And 41 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 4: then I think covid UH and especially what it did 42 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 4: to the Church uh, and then accompanied by the false 43 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 4: church that the spear of the age church uh, exemplified 44 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 4: by the uh the know the Summer of Floyd that 45 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 4: exact same year. And then I think the aftermath of 46 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 4: my buddy Charlie Kirk's martyring. And I think in all 47 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 4: these events, you're you're seeing people kind of reveal themselves, 48 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 4: for better or for worse, who they really are. And 49 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:42,079 Speaker 4: I think you're watching the Master Gardner kind of prune 50 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 4: his tree, so to speak. And I think, I think 51 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 4: we've got to trim some fat, you know, And I 52 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:50,519 Speaker 4: think the church has to get smaller before it gets better. 53 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 4: We've had an entire generation of Hawaiian shirt sweater vest uh, 54 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 4: you know, skinny Jean. Christianity and discipleship was not taken seriously. 55 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 4: And I think that the Lord is reading his church 56 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 4: for war, and I think, you know, there's got to 57 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 4: be some subtraction before there's multiplication. 58 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 3: And I think we're watching all of that now. 59 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:11,799 Speaker 4: And when I when I look at at the right, 60 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 4: when I look at our side, I think there is 61 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 4: a choice, a generational choice before us. 62 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 3: Lance. 63 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:20,519 Speaker 4: If you look at what's happened in Western Europe after 64 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 4: the Church basically abrogated from the public square a generation ago. 65 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:28,679 Speaker 4: And the right now in Western Europe is very reactionary, 66 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 4: almost like a self retardation of reactionary ism, to the 67 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 4: point that it can't get elected anywhere. The so called 68 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 4: righty parties are all just functions of a unibrow. There's 69 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 4: no agency. They can't vote themselves out of, out of, 70 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 4: out of the mess that they're in. And I think 71 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 4: this is the choice before our side right now, and 72 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 4: that is are we gonna Are we going to see 73 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 4: Charlie Kirk revival or reactionary retardation where we just make 74 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 4: ourselves so reactionary to abs everything that we can't win 75 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 4: elections on any level whatsoever. We can't win any kind 76 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 4: of critical mass of normy voters. We become an epistemological 77 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 4: black hole where well, I mean, I've got the real 78 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 4: conspiracy of the conspiracy of the conspiracy of the conspiracy. 79 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 4: And I say this as someone that you know, I 80 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 4: question the narratives a lot. I wrote a number one 81 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 4: best selling book questioning the entire scandemic narrative. But I 82 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 4: think it's important for God's people lands to remember this 83 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 4: Christianity is not the endless asking of questions. It is 84 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 4: the ceaseless seeking of answers. We are heading into Christmas season, 85 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 4: where the King of the universe so wanted to be known, 86 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 4: he left heaven and put himself in the most vulnerable 87 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 4: form he could, as a human being. The truth asks 88 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 4: seek not the truth wants to be known. The heavens 89 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 4: declare the glory of God. God came to us in 90 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 4: the form of a human being. He was with us, Emmanuel, 91 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 4: all right. He put his spirit now in us, all right, 92 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 4: the hope of glory Christ in us. And I think 93 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 4: this is the choice we now have, which is it's 94 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 4: not about questioning everything as much as it is finding answers. 95 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 4: Jesus said to Pilot, for this reason, I came into 96 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 4: the world to testify to the truth. 97 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 3: And so are we going to seek truth? 98 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 4: Are we going to take our skepticism and let it 99 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 4: fund and and and and you know, sort of inspire 100 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 4: the biggest zeal for truth we've seen in a generation, 101 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 4: or we're going to let it retard us. So we 102 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 4: just sit around here and just say things that are 103 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:29,359 Speaker 4: the absolute dumbest thing, so easily deconstructed all the time. 104 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 4: Because to have found the truth means you've somehow become 105 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 4: some kind of neocon or sellout, and I think that's 106 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 4: the choice before us. 107 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 3: And I think it's no. You know, Charlie was the 108 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 3: best of us. 109 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 4: I think I really, I mean, he really was apostolic 110 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 4: in his giftedness. And I think people are now seeing 111 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 4: in the last few weeks how much of this reactionary 112 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 4: retardation he was actually holding back. And I don't think 113 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,359 Speaker 4: it's any it's any coincidence that has just surged to 114 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 4: the forefront in the last in the two months since 115 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 4: his murder. 116 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 5: So you got that. Listen, man, You're like a fire hose. 117 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,239 Speaker 5: I love. I mean several notes that why we were talking. 118 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: So I'm going to go back to earlier comments you 119 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: made that I didn't want to interrupt you to say, 120 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:08,559 Speaker 1: but I'm thinking going back. But you ended on Charlie. 121 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 1: So let me let me start with that I said 122 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: when he died, I said, Ben Shapiro made the comedy. 123 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: He said, if you don't understand that Charlie was a 124 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: coalition builder, that that was the art form that that 125 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: that Ben Shapiro saw. Then I thought about it, Well, 126 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: he could hit you know, David Rubin and he has 127 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: the gay conservative contingency over here, and then he's got 128 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:32,039 Speaker 1: the uh, you know, the Maha movement people over here 129 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,119 Speaker 1: and the independence over there. And then you were talking 130 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 1: about the you'll have to explain this later. 131 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 5: What a normy voter is. Some of my people don't 132 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 5: know that. 133 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 1: But anyway, he could take this broad constellation of relationships 134 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 1: and and he did not have Candice Owens at any 135 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: of the amer fests, and he didn't have her on 136 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: his radio show, but he kept he kept enough of 137 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 1: a text thread with everybody so that everybody knew he 138 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: loved them and he supported them, but he evaluated whether 139 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,479 Speaker 1: or not they were healthy and useful to the coalition 140 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: he was building. And you were invited or invited out 141 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 1: to speak based on that. But what I noticed is 142 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: the moment that he died. My mind went to the 143 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: Book of Acts where Paul was in Ephesus, and he said, 144 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: I know that after my departure shall fierce wolves break 145 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: in among you, and even from among your own selves, 146 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: shall menorize speaking perverse things in order to draw away 147 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: the disciples after themselves. That word in Greek for speaking 148 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: to perverse things means focusing on some nuance of theology 149 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: or doctrine that will distinguish yourself from each other, to 150 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: fragment an audience to follow you. You couldn't describe more 151 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: perfectly what happened in the aftermath. Spiritually, what happened after 152 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: Charlie's assassination was all guns should have shifted over on the. 153 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 5: Madness on the left. 154 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: That manifests itself in all of the extremism of the violence, 155 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: from Antifa to the trans in doctor to the university 156 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: cauldron of indoctrination. In other words, the guns were set there. 157 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: And what happens like almost in the absence of Charlie 158 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: to control the fire, everybody trained their guns on each 159 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: other and started a circular firing squad. And so you've 160 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: got Candace. I'll dismiss from the moment because I got to. 161 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 5: Deal with her. She's talking about me, So she's a 162 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 5: separate subject. 163 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: But Tucker and Bannon and Levin and Shapiro, all of 164 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: these guys fighting with each other. And by the way, 165 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 1: anti Semitism is at the root of it, the issue 166 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: of Israel. 167 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 5: If you could have asked. 168 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:39,559 Speaker 1: An evangelical for a more poignant confirmation where in the 169 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: last days, let Israel be the subject that divides a 170 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 1: move of God in the United States, they after they 171 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: fight a survival campaign for four years. So I look 172 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 1: at this and I go, that's demonic. But if we 173 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 1: don't settle this, Steve, I don't know who's got the 174 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: voice of the adult in the room. Maybe Trump has 175 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,319 Speaker 1: to have a private phone call. If we don't sort 176 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: this out fast. The movement that was begun with Maga 177 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: with Trump, that Charlie helped to coalition together will not 178 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: be together form mid terms. And the other point I 179 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: was going to make is I was laughing because you 180 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 1: said Donald Trump is that force of nature, like Haley's 181 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: comment that comes by ever so often. The problem with 182 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: him is he is the singular factor that gets the 183 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: vote out. On the left, they'll be mobilized by their 184 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: hatred of Trump. But on the right, if he's not 185 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: on the ticket, he's not mobilizing. And the aha that 186 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: I got after the election results, and I didn't have 187 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 1: it the night, you know, like we get pulled on 188 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: TV to comment on stuff, and I didn't process it 189 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 1: all that night because the gap was so big in 190 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: the turnout that it wasn't until the next day that 191 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: I said. What actually happened is that the Libertarian, the 192 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 1: Hispanic mail, the African American man, all the all those 193 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: people that made up that movement for Trump, including Mah 194 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:02,439 Speaker 1: and the independ they weren't voting for Republicans. 195 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 5: This is a serious problem in midterms. Am I right? 196 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 3: One hundred percent? You are correct? 197 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:11,319 Speaker 4: And it's almost like the enemy knew exactly where to 198 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 4: hit us with Charlie's murder. And so it's good to 199 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 4: take a consortion of people that are going to be 200 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 4: that are going to have to now step into that 201 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 4: void with various sectors of skill and expertise to hold 202 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:28,319 Speaker 4: it together. I will tell you who I believe is 203 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 4: a very key person in all of this, and that 204 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 4: is Vice President JD. 205 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 2: Vance. 206 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 4: And the reason why is number one, It's obvious he's 207 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 4: the vice president as the crown Prince of Maga. 208 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 3: It is obvious that that. I mean, I just heard this. 209 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 4: I'll say this publicly now, I just heard this from 210 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 4: Charlie privately, right to my face, all right, that people 211 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 4: like him and Don Junior and Tucker lobbied the President 212 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 4: to make him the VP with the expressed intent of 213 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 4: leaving an heir apparent and I had a conversation a 214 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 4: few months ago with Nut Gingrich, and he said that 215 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 4: the greatest political regret of his career on the right 216 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 4: is that Ronald Reagan did not make Jack Kemp his 217 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 4: nominee for VP of nineteen eighty but tried a unity 218 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 4: ticket with the Bushes instead, and that left Reagan without 219 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 4: an ideological air. And so the minute that his time 220 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 4: was done, he stepped aside and based in the mainstream 221 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 4: Republican party of the past, took right back over. And 222 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 4: so he was hopeful that JD. Vance would be the 223 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 4: correction of that mistake. I think that Vance, as a millennial, 224 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,839 Speaker 4: understands the lament of our young men. Our young men, 225 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 4: particularly our young white men, frankly, have a lot to 226 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 4: be justifiably complaining about, given the mess in their laps. 227 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 4: And I say this, I've got a young man in 228 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 4: my home, and in the process of launching my eighteen 229 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 4: year old son out into the world. 230 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 3: He's learning right. 231 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 4: Now that he's going to have to make thirty thirty 232 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:44,439 Speaker 4: five thousand dollars a year right out of high school 233 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 4: in Des Moines, Iowa to get a decent apartment in 234 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 4: a car. He's not embarrassed to pick a girl up 235 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 4: in for a date. 236 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 3: That's ridiculous. 237 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 4: And no other generation has faced anything like that since 238 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 4: the Industrial Revolution. And so we've got to figure out 239 00:11:56,800 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 4: who can message that anger and then like Charlie could, 240 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 4: and then push it into a constructive venue. 241 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: Than Steve, I got to stop you and how this works. 242 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: So I got to do a quick station brig for 243 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: real America's voice. 244 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 5: We'll be right back. All right, we are back now. 245 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: You said something right before the break about your son 246 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:27,839 Speaker 1: thirty five thousand dollars has to come in and offer 247 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:29,199 Speaker 1: him to have a decent car to pick up a 248 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: girl for a date, and then have an apartment. And yeah, 249 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 1: and Charlie, you know Charlie's passion. It was so interesting 250 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: because he had his finger on the pulse of the 251 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:41,079 Speaker 1: millennial vote. If you expect to get that thirty year 252 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 1: old and younger vote, that turning points going after, you've 253 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 1: got to get them affordable housing. The big issue for 254 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: them is economics. And I'd say that he was so 255 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: clear on that, and it's sad because he had the 256 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 1: ear of Donald Trump and he could say, you're never 257 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: gonna We're never gonna win an election. If we don't 258 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: convince to them that our policies are affecting them. This 259 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: isn't about the border now, this isn't about pharmaceuticals, this 260 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 1: isn't about entitlements. This is about the ability of young 261 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: people to have confidence in the American system to be 262 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: able to provide for them. Or you're really subject to 263 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 1: the anarchy of what's going on with the left now, 264 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 1: because their appeal is the systems rigged. And this is 265 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 1: the other narrative that kind of intrigued me that Mondamie 266 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: in New York is taking the Bernie Sanders and AOC line, 267 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 1: which I'm hearing from some essayists. It's similar to Trump's 268 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 1: appeal in that they're speaking to the frustrations of the 269 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 1: person out there that feels like they're not winning like 270 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: someone else is and this system is somehow rigged against them. 271 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 1: And Trump kind of comes along and says it is rigged, 272 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: but I'm going to fix it. And then the socialist 273 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 1: comes along and says it's rigged, and I'm on your side. 274 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 1: I need your help. We better sort this thing out, 275 00:13:57,760 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 1: don't you think. And talk to me about where are 276 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 1: the elections for midterms? We should be having on our radar, we. 277 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 3: Have to understand moving forward. 278 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 4: Lance in New York City is I think the final 279 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:12,439 Speaker 4: confirmation of this that elections now are rival missionary expeditions. 280 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 4: They're not just about turning out voters. You have to 281 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 4: speak to the soul. These economic issues speak to the soul. 282 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 4: We're talking about not top marginal tax rates and how 283 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 4: to spur on a new entrepreneurial class. We're talking about 284 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 4: real quality life stuff. Can I actually find a girl 285 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 4: and have a family and experience the American dream at 286 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 4: a basic one oh one level? And if I can't, 287 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 4: then why in the world would I go ahead and 288 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 4: take on all these other social stigmas like DEI and 289 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 4: abortion and rot gut to TRAINESM and everything else in 290 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 4: the schools. And so that energy, all that male masculine 291 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 4: energy in our young men, has to go somewhere, and 292 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 4: it will go someone somewhere, either constructively or destructively. And 293 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 4: when you skip a generation in the pulpit of men 294 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 4: collectively and a generation of fathers in the home collectively, 295 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 4: figuratively or little, there's a lot of young men that 296 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 4: don't understand meekness, power, under control. What that stuff means. 297 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 4: We need to earnestly disciple them. Charlie understood that we 298 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 4: need to follow that example. And that's why I think 299 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 4: Frankly Vance is such a key figure in this because 300 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 4: I think he is the one person that has any 301 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 4: remote shot of slipping into some of those vacated. 302 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 3: Shoes of Charlie's. 303 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 4: When you look at the elections coming up in midterms, 304 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 4: we need candidates that are able to speak to the soul, 305 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 4: that understand these are quality of life issues. So if 306 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 4: I can be a little selfish, I look at my 307 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 4: own home state of Iowa governor candidate that I'm supporting 308 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 4: at Adam Stein, and Adam talks about wanting to be 309 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 4: the most pro trade, skill manufacturing governor in America. But 310 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 4: I love the way that he talks about it. It's 311 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 4: not just hey, these are real wages, but it's just 312 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 4: quality of life stuff. Hey, do I have an option 313 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 4: other than I leave high school and I go get 314 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 4: seven figures of loan debt and play Russian Roulette with 315 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 4: my soul? Am I going to walk out of there 316 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 4: as a gay, race, communist or not? 317 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 3: Right? But is there a few at your path beyond that? 318 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 4: And I look at how Adam speaks to that former 319 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 4: Assemblies of God minister. He was the CEO of our state. 320 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 4: So he's run the state on a government level. He 321 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 4: understands where all the bodies are buried. He speaks to 322 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 4: these kinds of issues that are really at the heart 323 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 4: of what kind of country and way of life are 324 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 4: we going to have? 325 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 3: And we need candidates that are able to do that. 326 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 5: All right, So he's in Iowa, right. 327 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 3: Correct, Adam Stein. 328 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: So by the way, Iowa. So the Iowa caucus. That's 329 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 1: going to be a big deal. I guess to the 330 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: presidential election and he's up during the midterms. That's a 331 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 1: midterm vote we're doing. 332 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 4: Yep, that's next year. We have a vacated seat for governor. 333 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 4: And here's the thing, and your audience is going to 334 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 4: find this fascinating. So our state's become one of the 335 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 4: reddest in the Union's redist in the Union. We have 336 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 4: had one Democrat able to win statewide. His name is 337 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 4: Rob Sand He's now running for governor. He won his 338 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 4: state auditor. He bought that seat with money he married into. 339 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 4: He's now running for governor. And if you look at 340 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 4: Rob Sand's socials lance, this is not a guy that 341 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 4: is running away from faith. He's trying to co opt it. 342 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 4: I mean Rob sand is going to literally stand up 343 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 4: there and say Jesus was a socialist, and he's going 344 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 4: to say this to the people of Iowa in a debate. 345 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:08,679 Speaker 4: And if we just send up there's some kind of 346 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 4: technocratic Republican who just is nothing but a construct of 347 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 4: consultant cliches, he's going to walk out of there looking 348 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 4: like a heretic. 349 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 3: In front of swing voters or normy voters. 350 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:20,959 Speaker 4: We need somebody who can correct, you know, like you frankly, 351 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:23,679 Speaker 4: like Christ, you know, saying to the enemy, correcting him 352 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 4: when he takes scriptures out of context. Rob sand is 353 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:28,919 Speaker 4: taking the scriptures out of context in his post on 354 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:33,199 Speaker 4: social media on a regular basis. He is trying to 355 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 4: coerce and are He's trying to co opt our own 356 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 4: language and use it against us. It is so important 357 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 4: that we now nominate candidates moving forward who have the 358 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:44,399 Speaker 4: right worldview and the ability to wield it. When you 359 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 4: talk about Charlie's ability to build that coalition, it was 360 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 4: an offshoot lance of his worldview. He understod common grace, 361 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 4: natural law, He understood all these. 362 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 3: Things and he was able to apply it. 363 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm you know, as I said earlier before we 364 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:00,199 Speaker 1: did the show, I have to listen to Can. This 365 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 1: has been targeting me yesterday. And part of her complaint 366 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 1: is the turning point, that Charlie became too evangelical and 367 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 1: that it. 368 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:13,479 Speaker 3: Was too Mormon. It was too moremon the other day, 369 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 3: it's too evangelical. 370 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 1: Now, yeah, it's too evangelical. Yeah, and so he was 371 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,400 Speaker 1: too much and it wasn't like this early on. I mean, 372 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 1: turning point wasn't always about this. I mean, the guy 373 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 1: did start when he was eighteen. He's allowed to develop 374 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:26,120 Speaker 1: a worldview like Lincoln by the time he's thirty one. 375 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: But I think what surprises me is that there would 376 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: be an audience that would think that Christianity is just 377 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 1: is only a religious thing that happens on Sunday. It 378 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 1: actually is a worldview for prioritizing a moral universe where 379 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:46,439 Speaker 1: you're accountable to God and having a family and pro 380 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 1: creating and loving one another and then having meaningful work. 381 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:54,959 Speaker 1: That there's an order, there's kind of like a primacy 382 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: in the universe of what's important. 383 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 5: Yes, and Christians. 384 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: What I want to break through and use this opportunity 385 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:03,640 Speaker 1: with Candae to smash and start to get get across 386 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: more powerfully. Is that this Christian nationalism is like nobody 387 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 1: can define what it is. It was a label basically 388 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 1: to try to make people sound like extremist, racist or something, 389 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: but actually it was white Christian nationalism until David Harrison 390 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 1: a bunch of my black megabuddies started embarrassing them, saying, 391 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 1: I guess I'm a white Christian nationalist, but Christianity ought 392 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 1: to be in the public. I think what Charlie did 393 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 1: that JD Vans confess. He said I wasn't talking about 394 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: Jesus up until two weeks ago. I'm glad to see 395 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: that he has said it because everybody else is evidently 396 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:40,199 Speaker 1: that the Christian worldview is something which applies to the 397 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: health of society. 398 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:42,639 Speaker 5: Am I right in that? 399 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 4: Unfortunately we have spent a generation collectively in the church 400 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 4: building brands and not the kingdom. 401 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 3: We have we have you know, skinny. 402 00:19:55,040 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 4: Jeans, sweater vests, Hawaiian shirts, nicer in God, perpetually furrowed 403 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 4: brows when we're not being nicer than God, saying things like, well, 404 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 4: you know, I've got a very diverse, you know congregation 405 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 4: here that may not feel the same way about the issues. 406 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:12,880 Speaker 4: Why would you have a diverse congregation of people who 407 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 4: don't believe in God's word? Why would that go unaddressed 408 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 4: in any kind of church whatsoever? I mean, I mean, 409 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 4: I just that's not a church. That's a social club 410 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 4: with Bible versus out of context. And again I can 411 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 4: just say this, having had these conversations with Charlie privately 412 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 4: on multiple occasions. This is one of the key drivers 413 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 4: of everything he did. He was trying to build an 414 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 4: apostolic ministry and parachurch organization to take the place of 415 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 4: much of the church which had vacated the public square, 416 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 4: particularly where men and young men were concerned for the 417 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 4: last generation. And that is a space now that the 418 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 4: rest of us have left to pick up the mic 419 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 4: and follow in his footsteps and try to fill. If 420 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 4: we win the men, will win the families. If you 421 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 4: win the families, you'll win over a civilization. What will 422 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 4: win them exactly the message, which is the application of 423 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 4: the Word of God that you just articulated a moment ago. 424 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 1: All right, So when you look at the church's response, 425 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 1: I think you said it was because I want to 426 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: lose you in just a moment you said it was 427 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 1: going to be like COVID and the George Floyd riots 428 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 1: and uh and then Charlie in the aftermath. But what 429 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 1: was it that you saw during COVID and the George 430 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 1: Floyd riots that you that that made you say that 431 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: these were like almost like spiritually significant. 432 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:32,680 Speaker 5: What did you call it? You know, points of inflection 433 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:33,120 Speaker 5: in the. 434 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 4: Formating cosmic clarifiers, cosmic clarifier of what. 435 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 3: Ultimately what field God is at working. 436 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 4: And one of the things you see throughout history, nothing 437 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 4: good comes from Nazareth. Well, who would want fishermen for 438 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:53,880 Speaker 4: you know, for apostles the Hebrew of Hebrews, former Christian 439 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 4: persecutor now becomes a Christian. But not just any Christian. 440 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 4: He is now sent to a van the very gentiles 441 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,439 Speaker 4: that he viewed himself as better than. You see this 442 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 4: all throughout the Kingdom of God that he uses, the 443 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,640 Speaker 4: the you know, the the he uses the foolish things 444 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 4: of this world that he is contrary to the world system. 445 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 4: Christianity is a paradox in and of itself, Die to live, 446 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 4: suffer to gain, you know, I mean, no other system 447 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 4: you know advocates these things like the Kingdom of God does. 448 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 3: And I mean, I just look at myself, all right. 449 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 4: I'm a former mailroom clerk, porn addict, and now I've 450 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 4: got one of the largest Christian media platforms in the 451 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 4: United States of America. 452 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:34,679 Speaker 3: I couldn't even tell you how it happened. 453 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 4: It just kind of happened, almost against my will, if 454 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:38,679 Speaker 4: I'm being honest with you. All right, So this is 455 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 4: not my life planned from twenty years ago how it 456 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 4: all turned out, all right, But this is how you 457 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 4: can tell when God is at work. 458 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 3: And the fact that the He usually and here's the 459 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 3: other thing to always watch. 460 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 4: God always goes around the traditional religious structure that failed 461 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 4: the previous generation. Always goes around it every single time. 462 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 4: And you're watching that. Now you're watching I've said to 463 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 4: my buddy Lucas Miles over it a TPUSA faith. Congratulations, brother, 464 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,679 Speaker 4: you're now head of the largest parachurch organization in the 465 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:05,920 Speaker 4: entire history of Christendom. 466 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 3: All right. 467 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 4: Lucas is from a modest sized church in South Bend, Indiana, 468 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 4: and he's only been on the job for a couple 469 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,159 Speaker 4: of years. All right, But if you've been if you 470 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 4: spent ten minutes with Lucas, you'd see I guess guy's 471 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,919 Speaker 4: heart has sold out to the gospel that is exact, 472 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 4: and that's why Charlie picked him, and that's exactly why 473 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 4: God picked him. And you can see every single time 474 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:26,400 Speaker 4: God shames the structure that failed his people and goes 475 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,919 Speaker 4: around the religious structure that failed the previous generation. That 476 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 4: happens every single time. That rhythm is in the scriptures 477 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 4: repeatedly old in New Testament and throughout church history as well. 478 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 1: You know what simplified it for me was because I'm 479 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,880 Speaker 1: a Seven Mountain guy. That's what I'm accused of anyway, 480 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 1: And I look at those mountains and I see this. 481 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 1: I saw Charlie was the guy who was representing the church. 482 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: But in order to get the family mountain, he went 483 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 1: into the education mountain to go talk about Christian worldview 484 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: to the students, and then he utilized that in order 485 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 1: to get out the under thirty vote for political purposes 486 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 1: and fed his visibility in his organization by capitalizing on media, 487 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 1: training it into an artistic art form, taking debates and 488 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 1: having billions of views on YouTube off his debates, and 489 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 1: funded it off of business people that I know that 490 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 1: underwrote the experts. All seven mountains he threatens. That's why 491 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,160 Speaker 1: when you said apostolic, I said, he's so totally right. 492 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 1: He went outside the church representing the church. And now, truly, 493 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 1: if we're going to do what we're called to do, 494 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 1: we have to activate the parachurch in every one of 495 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: those spheres to pick up the fallen baton. I'm out 496 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,919 Speaker 1: of time, Steve. We're gonna have to have you back again. 497 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 1: We're just getting started God. But how do people follow you? 498 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 1: By the way, how do they get in. 499 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 5: Touch with you? 500 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 3: Easiest thing? 501 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 4: Just follow me on Twitter at Steve Day's show or X. 502 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:50,640 Speaker 4: I'm sorry now I can't get used to that at 503 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 4: Steve days show on X. 504 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,680 Speaker 1: Well that's right, Well you feel sorry for me. Most 505 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 1: of my followers are still on Facebook. That tells you 506 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,919 Speaker 1: about my aging demographic. All right, listen, we're doing all 507 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 1: all things politically. You think that was interesting, Wait till 508 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,919 Speaker 1: you talk to uh cha ah. The guy that I 509 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 1: got coming up next is actually taken on that wicked 510 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,640 Speaker 1: governor's seat out in California. And who knows, maybe it's 511 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 1: time that we saw God move in California. You're gonna 512 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:30,160 Speaker 1: not want to miss this. We'll be right back. Well, 513 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 1: a year ago, we had that moment when huh boy, 514 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 1: what a relief that was. The Trump train pulled into 515 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 1: the station and history was being made right in front 516 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 1: of our eyes. And after all the prayer, and I 517 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 1: remember watching Charlie Kirk crying tears of relief because he knew, 518 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: as some other of us did, that we're on lists. 519 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 1: We you know, by the Operation Artic Frost, we were 520 00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 1: on lists of government attacks. They would come after us 521 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 1: with IRS documents and you know, because we talk politics, 522 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 1: but we're also preachers, and they would. 523 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 5: Have hit us. 524 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,920 Speaker 1: We were relieved and we were delighted that God moved. 525 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 1: Now we've got a new political season. Looks like the 526 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 1: Left is pushing back with a vengeance, got coiled spring 527 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: all that great awakening and move of God we talk 528 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 1: about in America. Let's face it, it may be a 529 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 1: move happening, but it's not resulting in a penetration in 530 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 1: the electoral realm. And brothers and sisters, if we don't 531 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:36,159 Speaker 1: guard the government gate, all the gains will be short lived. 532 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,399 Speaker 1: So my guest right now is someone I've known for 533 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 1: years and I've been friends with. So when he said 534 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 1: that God was calling him to run for governor in California. Well, 535 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: I've said, I know what a battle that's going to be. However, 536 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,199 Speaker 1: I want to do everything I can to introduce my 537 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 1: audience to him. He's he could be called doctor Cheyon, 538 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 1: he's got an earned doctorate, could be called Pastor chay On. 539 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 1: He has built a strong church and a network of churches, 540 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: but he's most effectually known as Papa chay because he's 541 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 1: like a dad to a whole lot of Christians. 542 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 5: Welcome back on the show. Actually, because you and I 543 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 5: do flash right now. 544 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 2: I think I was having me What an honor, what 545 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,879 Speaker 2: a blessing to be with you. It's amazing how this 546 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 2: started with me having a dream about you, and then 547 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 2: I called you, and then I also remembered you said 548 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,679 Speaker 2: I want you on my show as we're running, and 549 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 2: so yeah, you can led to another and here we are, 550 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:30,920 Speaker 2: well here, here we are. 551 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 1: So but you you know you're not a stranger to 552 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 1: the governor's mansion. The governor tried to lock you up. 553 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,159 Speaker 1: And I want everyone to hear the story because it's like, 554 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:44,879 Speaker 1: we forget this governor Newsom, who's gonna want to be president. 555 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:50,400 Speaker 1: This guy was shutting down churches, threatening them with finds 556 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:54,160 Speaker 1: if they went to church during his reign, the freedom 557 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 1: of a tyranny over there, and then the pastors themselves 558 00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 1: would be sent to jail. 559 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:03,879 Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, and then we see how he just discriminated 560 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 2: against the church. He said, abortion clinics are essential, they're open, 561 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 2: Marijuana dispensaries are essential, they're open. A strip club in 562 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:15,399 Speaker 2: San Diego was essential for the armed forces, and he 563 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:19,239 Speaker 2: said that they're essential, but that the churches were not. 564 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 2: And I saw that. And then when the George Floyd 565 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 2: rights took place, he does a press conference and there 566 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 2: was no social disc no one's wearing a mask. They 567 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 2: destroyed fear fact she talked about racism, was antisemitic, and 568 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 2: yet he commends them. He says, your First Amendment rights 569 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 2: must be protected and God bless you. And I'm thinking, 570 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 2: what about our First Amendment rights? So that was early 571 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 2: in July, and I just said, you know what, we're 572 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 2: going to open up and we're going to sue Governor Newson. 573 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 2: Because the seed was planted by Matt Staver, my attorney. 574 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 2: Going back to the call days in two thousand. 575 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 6: And we sad the call from my audience because we okay, 576 00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 6: so the call so the Lord spoke to lou Angle 577 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 6: to gather young people after the Promise Keepers in nineteen 578 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 6: ninety seven gathered a million men, and he said, this 579 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 6: is a partial fulfillment of Malachi chapter four, five and six. 580 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 2: He's sending the prophet Elijah before the great and terrible 581 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 2: day of the Lord. He's turning the hearts of the 582 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 2: fathers to the children. But now we need a counterpart. 583 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 2: We need to turn the hearts of the children to 584 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 2: the fathers. That we could have either revival or curse 585 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 2: if we don't respond. And so the Lord spoke to 586 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 2: him to mobilize young people. He asked me to be 587 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 2: the organizer, so I became president CEO of the Call Together. 588 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 2: We've been together since nineteen eighty two, so over forty 589 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 2: years that we've been running together. So that was naturally. 590 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 2: He's been my profit on his apostle, and so we 591 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 2: put this together and we thought there'd be round one 592 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 2: hundred thousand people that'll show up at ten o'clock. Over 593 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 2: four hundred thousand and this is the number of the 594 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 2: park police gave us. They knew how to measure the 595 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 2: Washington DC mall and came up. It turned out to 596 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 2: be the largest you care gathering in the history of America. 597 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 2: But we needed an attorney to cover us for liability 598 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 2: and any other problems we would have or having a 599 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 2: prayer gathering. So Matt Staver was our attorney and I 600 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 2: met him there and he did pro boneum and he 601 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 2: also said to me, if you sue Governor Newsom, we 602 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 2: will cover you financially. But because there needs to be 603 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 2: someone that takes a stant. And the reason why I 604 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 2: called him was because we opened up and I was 605 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 2: going to be in trouble with the law and I 606 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 2: wanted him to protect me. And he said, well, you know, 607 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 2: if you sue Governor Newsom, they can't touch you while 608 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 2: you're in litigation. Now, if you lose, then you're going 609 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 2: to jail. But you have to take that risk. And 610 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 2: so I said, well, let me pray about it. And 611 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 2: it just took a week I prayed about it. The 612 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 2: Lord gave me a word from Joshua one nine Have 613 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 2: I not commanded you be strong and courageous, to not 614 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 2: be discouraged, to not be afraid for the Lord your 615 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 2: Goddess with you wherever you go. And then with that word, 616 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 2: I met with all our pastors. I called the board 617 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 2: of him. They said, we're all in. Not only that, 618 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 2: but Matt said, if you really want to make an impact, 619 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 2: have the other h giant pastors be part of the plaintiff. 620 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 2: I got one hundred and forty five pastors to sign 621 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 2: up and they said we're all in. So there was 622 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 2: a network like you know, these profits that are not 623 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 2: going to bother their need to bail. They said we're in. 624 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 2: And so now I lost in the lower courts. I 625 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,239 Speaker 2: got a letter from the district attorney say there's going 626 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 2: to be a one year jail term for opening up, 627 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 2: and they knew. I just sued Governor news them and 628 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 2: that's their retaliation is the classic Marxist, you know, cancer 629 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 2: culture playbook. They want to silence me, to back off. 630 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 2: One year in jail, four point five million in fines, 631 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 2: and then the last paragraph of the letter from the 632 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 2: district attorney, we reserve the right to arrest your church members. 633 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 2: Now thing about alands. We're talking about you know, citizens 634 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 2: that pay their taxes, they don't have any criminal record. Meanwhile, 635 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 2: Newsom's allowing Position forty seven all these drug dealers, drug addicts, 636 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 2: rapists out of prison, and they want to arrest us. 637 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 2: So we've come to basically what Isaiah five twenty says, 638 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 2: well to those who call evil good good evil, and 639 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 2: that's where our society has been, especially in California. And 640 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 2: so by God's grace, we appealed to the Supreme Court 641 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 2: and we won on February the fifth, twenty twenty one. 642 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 2: And not only did we win six to three, I mean, 643 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 2: think about it, John Roberts sided with us, and he 644 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 2: normally doesn't go conservative, but he did with us because 645 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 2: it was clear that Newsom had violated our First Amendment rights, 646 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 2: the right to worship, the right to gather, the right 647 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 2: to speak. And so we won a one point three 648 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 2: million dollar settlement and we gave it to of course 649 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 2: our attorney, because they were doing pro bona, and so 650 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 2: Matt said, that was the largest centema we've ever received, 651 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 2: and so we're glad that we were to bless them. 652 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,959 Speaker 2: But that was beginning of the pathway to take us 653 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 2: stand in California with the woe ideology there, it really 654 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 2: is like a Marxist state and the totalitarian I mean, 655 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,720 Speaker 2: just the proposition fifty that we just had. The German 656 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 2: mandering is another indicator. It's not based on constitution. We 657 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 2: already have a independent commission that was said constitutionally. We 658 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 2: bypassed that, and all of a sudden, the legislators are 659 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 2: now determining instead of we the people who's going to win. 660 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 2: And he just wants to make sure we have a 661 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 2: supermajority of Republicans. 662 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 1: So folks understand this because you know, not everybody that's 663 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 1: in these things is informed on them. So after theoretically 664 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 1: after Texas, because of the population we have, was redefined 665 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 1: five new districts, I guess Republicans could be voted in. 666 00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 1: The word was a California news mecido. Yeah, yeah, well 667 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 1: we'll do that too. But I just found out last night. 668 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 1: They've been working on this for two years. This wasn't 669 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 1: a response to Texas. They were planning on doing this anyway, 670 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:12,959 Speaker 1: right because Newsom wants to get this because he wants 671 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 1: to become the next president and bring the misery of 672 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 1: California to the rest of the country. And so they 673 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:24,360 Speaker 1: the Republicans in your state are around forty three percent 674 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:24,840 Speaker 1: of the state. 675 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:29,359 Speaker 2: Well, the Republicans is twenty five percent of the state 676 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 2: registered Republicans. Now President Trump won forty in twenty twenty four, Okay, So, 677 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 2: which means that the Democrats and independance shifted over and 678 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,360 Speaker 2: then we had ten counties that went and read, which 679 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 2: is a great sign because I think people are tired 680 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 2: of the totalitarian rate of news and the supermajority of 681 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:49,440 Speaker 2: Democrats in Sacramento. 682 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 1: So think about it, ten counties went red. But what 683 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:56,279 Speaker 1: newsomb is doing by setting aside that committee that was 684 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,319 Speaker 1: authorized to do this and soa I forget you were 685 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:02,359 Speaker 1: just going to do it ourselves. He's actually going to 686 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 1: shrink the representation then of the what is it the 687 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 1: they are the nine. 688 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,879 Speaker 2: It's amazing because the district lines already is just only 689 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 2: seventeen percent of the Republicans really have a voice now, 690 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 2: so he's reducing that more. And so basically it is 691 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:24,880 Speaker 2: just a super majority, super supermajority of Democrats that will 692 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:26,719 Speaker 2: be represented as not a. 693 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 1: How do you how do you win in California as 694 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 1: a conservative as a Republican with only twenty five percent 695 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 1: Republican voting? 696 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, let me just say this is that there 697 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:42,280 Speaker 2: is a pathway because there are a lot of conservative 698 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:46,239 Speaker 2: believers who are just not engaged. They're so discouraged they've 699 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 2: thrown tow So we have more evangelicals than any other 700 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:53,720 Speaker 2: state except for Texas. But unfortunately we have twelve million, 701 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 2: by the way, and six million that are registered. Three 702 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 2: million that are registered don't vote. And so my goal 703 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 2: is to awaken the church. If we just got the 704 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:07,760 Speaker 2: six million registered to vote biblically, we would win every 705 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,799 Speaker 2: single race without the six million that are not registered. 706 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 2: In other words, the last gubernatorial race, eight million showed 707 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 2: up totally. And so just imagine if six million worthy Republicans, 708 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 2: we would win that race, and we would win all 709 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:26,280 Speaker 2: the state Assembly. And so our goal is to really 710 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:30,760 Speaker 2: again pray for revival, because revival begins with the church 711 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 2: being awakened, and we need to educate them. And that's 712 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 2: why even on Flashborn last night, they were advocating that 713 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:42,799 Speaker 2: we need to educate, educate. Basically, the problem is is 714 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:46,640 Speaker 2: that we have real bad theology in the church in California. 715 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:48,800 Speaker 1: Well, I didn't I got bad numbers. I didn't know 716 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:52,359 Speaker 1: that there were eight million voters decided the less combernatorial race. 717 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 1: And we have six million evangelicals in California. 718 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,360 Speaker 2: Exactly that are registered, that are registered, but three million 719 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,160 Speaker 2: of them don't turn out and vote. 720 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 1: So we just have that the Christians just cared enough 721 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:05,919 Speaker 1: exactly vote Absolutely they could. 722 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:06,279 Speaker 5: They could. 723 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,840 Speaker 1: It's like rebuking the devil. If they cared enough to 724 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,759 Speaker 1: rebuke the devil on one day with a ballot or 725 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:13,880 Speaker 1: with a vote, they can have a whole couple of 726 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,840 Speaker 1: years worth of rebuke ability on the devil. 727 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,759 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, part of it is a bad theology. They 728 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 2: have a pre trip mid trip rapture, and I believe 729 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,719 Speaker 2: in the rapture. I believe that Jesus is coming back 730 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:28,120 Speaker 2: and we'll be caught up with him when he does come. 731 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 2: But I also believe that when he does come, he 732 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 2: creates a new haven, new Earth. That's my position. 733 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,520 Speaker 1: All right, Well, listen, I'm gonna have to take a 734 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:39,359 Speaker 1: quick break here because of the syndicates I work with. 735 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 7: We'll be right back, and so we have to be 736 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:53,399 Speaker 7: tough on crime. 737 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,560 Speaker 2: I mean, thinking about it, you can now go up 738 00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 2: to the store with your calculator and buy steals nine 739 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,920 Speaker 2: hundred fifty eight dollars. It's still against the law, but 740 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 2: it's just a misdemeanor and they're not going to wrest 741 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:08,239 Speaker 2: you for a misdemeanor. Priuce of courts are overflooded, with 742 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 2: misdemeanor and felony charges. So and so people are just 743 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:16,400 Speaker 2: getting and so people like CBS is moving out of 744 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,399 Speaker 2: San Francisco, Norseroom just moved out of San Francis. It's 745 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 2: not sustainable to have people just come in and steal. 746 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,200 Speaker 2: You could card jack, you could steal your Mercedes Benz 747 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,719 Speaker 2: as just a misdemeanor. It's ridiculous. So what I want 748 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:32,200 Speaker 2: to do as governor is to really enforce Proposition of 749 00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,759 Speaker 2: thirty six, which past twenty twenty four is to make 750 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:38,960 Speaker 2: the misdemeanors of felony. It was passed by seventy percent 751 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:42,560 Speaker 2: of the Californians. But here's the problem. Newsom is not 752 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:46,399 Speaker 2: giving one cent to it. It's not enforcing Proposition thirty six. 753 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,960 Speaker 2: I'm going to enforce it. And what we're going to 754 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:52,160 Speaker 2: do is, I do believe that we have I have 755 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 2: a solution for the homeless situation to do with compassion. 756 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,840 Speaker 2: They're around twenty percent that are really needing help with housing. 757 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,040 Speaker 2: Eighty percent of those are people who are drug added, 758 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,880 Speaker 2: drug pushers and mentally ill. And what I'm going to 759 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,239 Speaker 2: do is I'm going to give them an ultimatum that 760 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:12,320 Speaker 2: you go through treatment with a nonprofit faith based program. 761 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,000 Speaker 2: We have all this nonprofit organization, but they're not going 762 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:18,160 Speaker 2: to get results because we're not allowed to preach the gospel. 763 00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,560 Speaker 2: Dream Center with my good friend Matthew Barnett, he doesn't 764 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,759 Speaker 2: take one penny from the government because he can't preach 765 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,360 Speaker 2: the gospel if he did. And so I'm going to say, 766 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 2: with our First Amendment rights, you have the freedom and 767 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:33,359 Speaker 2: I'm going to give you money to treat because they 768 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:36,920 Speaker 2: have a tremendous track record their organization that have the 769 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:42,880 Speaker 2: data of the track record approven transformation of these homeless people. 770 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:46,560 Speaker 2: They're getting jobs, are working, they're being productive, and I'm 771 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:48,640 Speaker 2: going to give them money to them instead of failed 772 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,799 Speaker 2: government policy. We spend five billion, we have nothing to 773 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,879 Speaker 2: show for. We just see an increase every day. This 774 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:59,439 Speaker 2: is actually a crime because every day seven homeless people 775 00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,919 Speaker 2: are dying on them streets, three hundred and sixty five 776 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,480 Speaker 2: a year, and so we're just talking about a culture 777 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:08,600 Speaker 2: of death that's being perpetuated in California. We've had Proposition 778 00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:12,480 Speaker 2: one that codified abortion to state constitution twenty twenty three. 779 00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,960 Speaker 2: We have the teenagers who are going through transition committing 780 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,839 Speaker 2: suicide at the alarming rate, and so the whole transgender 781 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:23,600 Speaker 2: ideology being shut down kids' throats, and we pass bills 782 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:27,880 Speaker 2: where like AB one nine five five that teachers, even 783 00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:31,600 Speaker 2: Christian teachers, cannot notify the parents that you've got to 784 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:35,400 Speaker 2: watch out for your son wants to change his pronoun 785 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,040 Speaker 2: and it wants to go through transition. We can't even 786 00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:41,279 Speaker 2: notify them by law. And so the parental rights have 787 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,759 Speaker 2: been taken away. And again just recent bill AB four 788 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:49,040 Speaker 2: ninety five that is really legalized a child custody from 789 00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:53,080 Speaker 2: the parents' original parents, that anyone can just take the child. 790 00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,279 Speaker 2: And we're talking about human trafficking is going to take 791 00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 2: place as a result of that, and it is so. 792 00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:03,680 Speaker 2: Human trafficking has tripled under Newsom's watch since some of 793 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,680 Speaker 2: the WIG bills that he signed into law. I can 794 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,359 Speaker 2: talk more about that, but it's just a problem. It's 795 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,160 Speaker 2: a mess, and so we have to bring law and order. 796 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:16,680 Speaker 2: We have to bring safe communities back, affordable homes, by 797 00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:21,040 Speaker 2: reducing the energy prices, by opening up the wells and 798 00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,360 Speaker 2: patroleum once. 799 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:26,000 Speaker 8: Again, you have patrolling capacity, oh my goodness, in one 800 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:30,439 Speaker 8: county alone, we have enough natural gas and crude oil 801 00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:34,240 Speaker 8: which we need in California for the refineries to produce 802 00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:36,040 Speaker 8: enough for our whole state. 803 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:40,160 Speaker 2: But we're importing sixty percent of our petroleum from Saudi Arabia. 804 00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,960 Speaker 2: Could wait another place like that, because we don't want 805 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:44,920 Speaker 2: to be the ones that's polluting the air. 806 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:48,880 Speaker 1: They can, they can pollute the air, but not but 807 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,799 Speaker 1: that air never shows up on your globe exactly. 808 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:55,800 Speaker 2: Newsom just wants a clean report guard. I'm a green 809 00:41:55,960 --> 00:42:00,520 Speaker 2: environmental less and look what we've done in California. And yeah, 810 00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:07,240 Speaker 2: the pollution that's happening, uh, just Unbelievable's. 811 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,960 Speaker 5: Like Venezuela crude will import it. 812 00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,160 Speaker 2: It's hypocrisy. It's just total hypocrisy. 813 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:17,000 Speaker 1: So the uh so, if people want to stay connected 814 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,160 Speaker 1: with you, because you're really this is a populist movement 815 00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:24,280 Speaker 1: camp campaign and it's doing it with a faith based 816 00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,960 Speaker 1: hopefully a faith based support based So what do they 817 00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:28,480 Speaker 1: need to do? 818 00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:32,120 Speaker 2: Well, they can go to cha Chi number four for 819 00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:36,400 Speaker 2: CAA for California, Chay for CAA, and they can dot 820 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,279 Speaker 2: com and they can look at my website. But I 821 00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:42,480 Speaker 2: want them to realize that I am running for governor 822 00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,600 Speaker 2: for all the people, not just a conservative religious right 823 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:51,200 Speaker 2: I am a pastor over everyone in my church, Democrats, Republicans. 824 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:55,640 Speaker 2: I have people of every single background and I want 825 00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:58,560 Speaker 2: to be the pastor and governor. That's why people call 826 00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,719 Speaker 2: me Papa che around the world. Big. I've demonstrated being 827 00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:05,719 Speaker 2: a father to the fatherless, and right now we live 828 00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:11,400 Speaker 2: in an orphan state. It's just the young males, especially, 829 00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:16,880 Speaker 2: They're so masculated. They just are staying home with their parents, 830 00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:21,280 Speaker 2: the smoking marijuana and just playing with their computer games. 831 00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:23,279 Speaker 2: And I just want them to get out there. I 832 00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,880 Speaker 2: want to empower them to get jobs. So we have 833 00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:30,520 Speaker 2: so many regulations. It's hard to start a business. We 834 00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:34,919 Speaker 2: have four hundred thousand regulations, the highest taxes. So I'm 835 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:38,000 Speaker 2: going to reduce the regulations. I'm going to reduce the taxes. 836 00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,560 Speaker 2: I'm going to encourage people to start because people don't 837 00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,919 Speaker 2: realize I'm also a businessman. I've been a pastor for 838 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,719 Speaker 2: forty six years, but in twenty ten I started my 839 00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:50,560 Speaker 2: own escorpate and I'm making more money as a businessman 840 00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,800 Speaker 2: than I'm able to turn in my salary. Three times 841 00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,880 Speaker 2: my salary back to the church, and anyone who knows 842 00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,400 Speaker 2: the books can attest to it. I've been doing that 843 00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,880 Speaker 2: for fifteen year's lance. So I want to apply the 844 00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:06,200 Speaker 2: principles I've learned in business apply it to Sacramento, because 845 00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:09,840 Speaker 2: we're now twenty billion dollars in deficit spending for this 846 00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:13,640 Speaker 2: year alone. Here's the fourth richest economy and we're twenty 847 00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,360 Speaker 2: billion in debt, and so we're gonna get rid of 848 00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:20,040 Speaker 2: the debt. We're gonna I'm gonna a doge everything. I'm 849 00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:23,160 Speaker 2: going to audit the bullet train to nowhere. We think 850 00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:27,000 Speaker 2: about it. We approved forty billion in two thousand and eight, 851 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:29,680 Speaker 2: is up to one hundred billion now and not one 852 00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,040 Speaker 2: foot of track to show for it. 853 00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,440 Speaker 5: All that money, all that California money. How can new 854 00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:36,720 Speaker 5: some campaign He can't. 855 00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,279 Speaker 2: This is the thing. When the record goes out, I 856 00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:43,400 Speaker 2: don't care what he thinks of himself. So if I 857 00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:48,480 Speaker 2: could just say this, it's just blind ambition, and it's 858 00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:52,319 Speaker 2: it's not about we the people, it's about him. And 859 00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:56,920 Speaker 2: so he uses his position to campaign for twenty twenty 860 00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,480 Speaker 2: eight election. That's what he's doing right now with probably 861 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,319 Speaker 2: in fifth Yeah, I mean, let's just be honest about that. 862 00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:08,520 Speaker 2: So we've had politicians that are absolutely self absorbed, narcissistic, 863 00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:11,719 Speaker 2: It's all about them, and it's not about me. It's 864 00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:15,200 Speaker 2: about the peoples. We the people. It is a populist movement. 865 00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:18,280 Speaker 2: I wanted to give empower people. So we have thirty 866 00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,919 Speaker 2: five percent of the middle class that are now living 867 00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,920 Speaker 2: in poverty, and I want to eradicate them. And so 868 00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:27,200 Speaker 2: it is the economy stupid. You know, we need to 869 00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,359 Speaker 2: have California affordable game. 870 00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:31,920 Speaker 1: I got I got like around the thirty seconds left here, 871 00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:33,320 Speaker 1: But I do want to talk about who else is 872 00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:34,400 Speaker 1: running in California. 873 00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:35,600 Speaker 5: What makes you different than them? 874 00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,279 Speaker 2: Well, first of all, let me just say they're all 875 00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:41,439 Speaker 2: wonderful people. I really mean that. You know, I've met 876 00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:45,480 Speaker 2: Steve Hilton, I met Sheriff Bianco. They really won what's 877 00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:48,080 Speaker 2: best for California. But I'm the only one that's signed 878 00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:51,239 Speaker 2: the Family First storm lighte Statement, which is pro life, 879 00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:55,839 Speaker 2: pro family, pro freedom, appropriate market, pro Israel. They won't 880 00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,960 Speaker 2: sign it. And this is not to cast a negative 881 00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:02,839 Speaker 2: expersion on them. They have reasons they think in California 882 00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:05,719 Speaker 2: to win the Democrats over. They probably will lose if 883 00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:08,120 Speaker 2: they signed it. But to me, I believe I win 884 00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:13,400 Speaker 2: the Conservative Democrats over because I'm an Asian immigrant. We 885 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:17,320 Speaker 2: have fifty one percent of California or people of ethnic background. 886 00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:21,080 Speaker 2: And I came when I was five years old legally 887 00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:23,920 Speaker 2: obviously with my parents, and we have lived in the 888 00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:27,000 Speaker 2: American dream, and I want to give that opportunity for 889 00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:30,560 Speaker 2: every immigrant that's in California. We have over two hundred 890 00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,960 Speaker 2: different languages spoken just in Los Angeles alone, and so 891 00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:37,080 Speaker 2: I feel my pathway whereas all of them. And nothing 892 00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:40,520 Speaker 2: against being white male. You know, I'm not in the DEI, 893 00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:44,600 Speaker 2: but I saded out to all of them, and the 894 00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:47,359 Speaker 2: Democrats think that way. And so I think if they're 895 00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,840 Speaker 2: going to look for a Democrat, that I mean a 896 00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:55,520 Speaker 2: Republican that's common sense oriented that want to restore parential rights. Again, 897 00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:59,239 Speaker 2: seventy percent of Democratic moms wants the parental rights to 898 00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:02,120 Speaker 2: be restored and not the state to take over their kids. 899 00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:05,360 Speaker 2: And so I feel like I have a pathway to 900 00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:05,960 Speaker 2: convince them. 901 00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:07,960 Speaker 5: Window I'm going to get the message out, folks. I'm 902 00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,680 Speaker 5: like I'm one minute over. Remember that cha for. 903 00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:14,560 Speaker 1: C a dot com and you can find you can 904 00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:16,120 Speaker 1: keep in touch with him and follow me. Are you 905 00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:17,120 Speaker 1: on any social media? 906 00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:17,560 Speaker 5: Also? 907 00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:22,800 Speaker 2: Yes, on my platforms. Check out my Instagram, my Facebook, 908 00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:24,080 Speaker 2: count everything. 909 00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,600 Speaker 1: All right, well, thank you for being with us, Popa 910 00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:29,640 Speaker 1: Chay and I can't believe with the time went boom, 911 00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:31,560 Speaker 1: that was it, all right, I can't believe it. We'll 912 00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:35,480 Speaker 1: see you again in the next segment for Real America's 913 00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:39,480 Speaker 1: Voice and uh see you tomorrow for my main platform. 914 00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:40,160 Speaker 2: God bless