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Speaker 1: First though the number fifteen, as in fifteen roster moves

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Speaker 1: have been made this offseason. It's Cardinals Cover two, episode

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Speaker 1: Fifteen roster moves have been made this offseason. Can you

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Speaker 1: name them all? My direct Well, yesterday during the Red

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Speaker 1: Seat Report, we get a script and not a script,

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Speaker 1: but we get the show outline in the back page.

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Speaker 1: Listen all the signings. I mean, I can go through it,

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Speaker 1: but I couldn't do it, like right off top of

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Speaker 1: cliff notes version of what the team has done over

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Speaker 1: the offseason. As we've talked a lot about, it has

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Speaker 1: been quiet. So I'm not gonna make you name all

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Speaker 1: of them. Although I'll say this, eleven of the fifteen

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Speaker 1: roster moves have involved Cardinals players returning. Eleven of fifteen.

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Speaker 1: Do the math, and you and I very capable of

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Speaker 1: doing math. Seventy thirty and a third percent of the

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Speaker 1: off season has been about retaining your own players. Now,

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Speaker 1: there are two schools of thought with that. It's all right,

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Speaker 1: we prioritize who we wanted back. We had a number

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Speaker 1: of free agents at key positions that we want to

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Speaker 1: make sure that they don't go anywhere else. On the

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Speaker 1: flip side, when you lose a Christian Kirk, when you

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Speaker 1: lose a Chandler Jones, those positions, let's so Christian Kirk

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Speaker 1: more so on Chandler Jones. Those positions haven't been addressed

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Speaker 1: in free agency. And you would have thought now here

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Speaker 1: here still in the month of April. Yeah, and I

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Speaker 1: think really the focus rate has been over the last

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Speaker 1: I think people forget this team was ten and two,

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Speaker 1: but they need to get better. I mean, on both

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Speaker 1: They got defensively, they got to do a much better

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Speaker 1: And you know, I think we're excited about Isaiah Simmons,

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Speaker 1: a time time signing. It's just not going to happen

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Speaker 1: and there's still quality players out there. There's a ton

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Speaker 1: From Jordan Phillips, you mentioned something very important that this

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Speaker 1: He provides depth. The thing is, you know they brought

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Speaker 1: in offseason workouts. And I know you're not a big

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Speaker 1: And they do like Ashue running back Rashad White. He

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Speaker 1: I praise considering coming out of you on Bell. Yes,

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, he's got that ability. Now can you harness

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Speaker 1: All right, couple, are you so again eight picks? You're not? No,

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Speaker 1: I'm fine with that to me. You've got a number

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Speaker 1: the third round. I think they're more prevalent to go

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Speaker 1: Now it was the selection at twenty nine or thirty,

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Speaker 1: counting down twenty two eleven. But you brought up Darryl

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Speaker 1: eleven personnel and that means you're going three wide receivers,

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Speaker 1: and that means you need three corners. No. I mean clearly,

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Speaker 1: you look at Derrick Henry Well deserved a contract extension

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Speaker 1: at the time. Christian McCaffrey, Delvin Cook, Alvin Kamara. I mean,

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Speaker 1: these are bell cows. But for the most part, I

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Speaker 1: think that position now that it really comes down to

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Speaker 1: guaranteed money. But I think that's the future. You have

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Speaker 1: to have weapon, you have to be able to run

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Speaker 1: the ball, and then you have to be able to thrower.

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Speaker 1: It's a throwing league at the end of it. And

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Speaker 1: that's the thing. The league has changed based off of

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Speaker 1: what is available their supply chain. On the college ranks,

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Speaker 1: the game in college football has changed. You're throwing the

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Speaker 1: ball a lot more now. If we see another switch,

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Speaker 1: you know, and it goes the other way, then potentially

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Speaker 1: that happens in the National Football Well, all the rules

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Speaker 1: have been heard for the offense. I mean, you can't

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Speaker 1: touch the guy after five yards, um, you know, but

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Speaker 1: David Johnson's and Todd Gurley's. Now again, those I only

447
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Speaker 1: mentioned a handful of guys that are worth it. But

448
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Speaker 1: Todd Gurley he obviously had knee issues. David Johnson, I

449
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Speaker 1: mean he wasn't the same running back after he got paid.

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Speaker 1: I mean unless, and again we probably won't see a

451
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Speaker 1: running back draft and until maybe I mean pick a

452
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Speaker 1: flyer on a guy like Kenneth Walker from Michigan State.

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Speaker 1: He was a transfer. Um, you look at Hall where

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Speaker 1: you know you had Todd Gurley go tenth. Overall, I

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Speaker 1: want to say, you had McCaffrey going the teens, you

456
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Speaker 1: had Henry. But I think those days are over. And

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Speaker 1: I don't think see unless you're a bell cow where

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Speaker 1: you said, you know, twenty five touches and you're the

459
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Speaker 1: focal point of the office like Derrick Henry is. And

460
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Speaker 1: we know that Kirk Cousins, you know, obviously can spin

461
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Speaker 1: the ball, but they're still gonna want to run the ball.

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Speaker 1: I think those days are over. Again, those huge contracts,

463
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Speaker 1: because again you can draft one. Just hate to say it,

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Speaker 1: just run him in the ground. It's fascinating conversation. What's

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Speaker 1: happening at the wide receiver position, and that's why a

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Speaker 1: lot of it is. All right, the Cardinals need to

467
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Speaker 1: start looking at the wide receiver position going younger because

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Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins is not getting any younger himself. Well, and

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Speaker 1: if you want to look at the tight end position,

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Speaker 1: they're almost making more money than running backs. It's it's

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Speaker 1: all about matchups, yes, it's it's it's tight ends against

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Speaker 1: linebackers and safeties. And if you get you know, if

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Speaker 1: you've got a guy like George Kittle, Travis Kelsey, Gronk

474
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Speaker 1: out there, the Schultzky in Dallas, I mean, zach Ertz,

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Speaker 1: they become the second and third options in a lot

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Speaker 1: of offenses. All right, let's get into it here Mike

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Speaker 1: Jarecki's top fifty draft prospects as we count it down

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Speaker 1: here on Cardinals Cover two, presented by Hunday Partner of

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Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals. We are two weeks from Thursday. Two

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Speaker 1: weeks from Thursday is the twenty twenty two NFL Draft.

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Speaker 1: If you missed any of the previous episodes, the countdown

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Speaker 1: for number fifty to twenty one, just going to the

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Speaker 1: archives on easy Cardinals dot com or wherever you get

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Speaker 1: your podcast. Your preferred podcast provider. But we are in

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Speaker 1: the top twenty and on this edition, we are going

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Speaker 1: to go from twenty to eleven, beginning at number twenty.

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Speaker 1: And this is a name Perdue outside linebacker, George Carloftas

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Speaker 1: junior sixty four two sixty six. This is, at least

489
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Speaker 1: for me, the first name that I saw linked to

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Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals one at twenty three and in two

491
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Speaker 1: because it fills a need with respects to edge rusher,

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Speaker 1: and that was mel Kiper Junior's first mock draft. He

493
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Speaker 1: had the Cardinals going with Carloftus at pick number twenty three. Yeah,

494
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,119
Speaker 1: he had an outstanding pro day. I think he really

495
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 1: solidified himself. And you know, you look at the outside rushers,

496
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:56,160
Speaker 1: I think he's more like Ryan Kerrigan, you know, six

497
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Speaker 1: four two. So I don't know if he fits the

498
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Speaker 1: Cardinals outside linebacker. I think he's an edge rusher. Third

499
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Speaker 1: team Associated Press All American. He benched twenty one. His

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Speaker 1: twenty yards shuttle is pretty good. You look at he's

501
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:16,639
Speaker 1: played in twenty seven games, sixty four solo tackles, ninety

502
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Speaker 1: nine total tackle for losses thirty and a half, fourteen sacks, interception,

503
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Speaker 1: a couple of pass breakups, quarterback hits forced fumbles. He

504
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Speaker 1: has four for fumble recoveries four. I do think he's

505
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Speaker 1: going to be a first round pick. I just don't

506
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Speaker 1: know if he fits what the Cardinals are looking for

507
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Speaker 1: compared to some other guys. This is what mel kiper

508
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:42,360
Speaker 1: Junior wrote about Carloftus and this is going away his back.

509
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,920
Speaker 1: But his pressure numbers were elite, even if he didn't

510
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 1: always get home to the quarterback. He's really good against

511
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 1: the run. Two and Accordina. To reports, he was one

512
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Speaker 1: of those thirty players that came in for an official

513
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,200
Speaker 1: visit with the Arizona Cardinals. So it is a name

514
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Speaker 1: that has been often linked to the Arizona Cardinals. Yeah,

515
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 1: he's well built, broad hips and good he's got you know,

516
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 1: you can see he's well and well. He's kind of

517
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 1: guy that spends a lot of time in the weight room,

518
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 1: plays the game through a physical filter, already possesses the

519
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 1: that he can, you know, control the line of scrimmage.

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00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,919
Speaker 1: You know, he likes to test tackles anchor with his

521
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,920
Speaker 1: long arm and his bull charge. So he he fits

522
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 1: the profile. You know, you look at it. And Ryan

523
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:28,400
Speaker 1: Kerrigan had a great career and he probably never got

524
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Speaker 1: the credit because they had all those defensive linement that

525
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 1: he's drafted over years, Pain and Alan and obviously Chase

526
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 1: Young and then he goes to Philadelphia. So no, I

527
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 1: think this guy can have a long career. I mean,

528
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 1: maybe you can consider him like Kyle van de Bosch,

529
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Speaker 1: just size wise. Now, he's not a great playmaker against

530
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 1: the run, struggles to prevent Why did by Ohio State

531
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 1: tackles sticky feet when pursuit changes direction? Again, none of

532
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Speaker 1: these guys, there's always gonna be some wartz out any

533
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,880
Speaker 1: of these guys. That's why you develop them. You coach

534
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Speaker 1: him up and you have him for the next five years.

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Speaker 1: But I do think, I just I just don't know

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Speaker 1: if he's a fit in this Cardinal defense. Now they're

537
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,399
Speaker 1: when they're building this roster, you have to fit this scheme.

538
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 1: That's why, you know when we look at big names

539
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 1: and why don't they sign this guy, Well, maybe he

540
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 1: doesn't fit the scheme. So I don't Again, I could

541
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Speaker 1: be wrong. He did come in for a visit, and

542
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Speaker 1: you know the good news is they got a chance

543
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Speaker 1: to see him, meet him, put him on the chalkboard

544
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Speaker 1: and you know, four or five years later if he's

545
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 1: a free agent, they have some intel on him listed

546
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 1: as an edge rusher or whether that's outside linebacker. But

547
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 1: in college a finalist for the Ted Hendricks Award, which

548
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 1: goes to the nation's best defensive ent. So how do

549
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:41,959
Speaker 1: you to your point, MJ. Does he fit with what

550
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 1: the Cardinals want to do in a three or four

551
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 1: defense or do we see a little bit more variations

552
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 1: of the Cardinals defense with a fourth or a fifth

553
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 1: player up near the line of scrimmage and perhaps potentially

554
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 1: with their hand in the dirt. Yeah, I mean he

555
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 1: started twelve games tied with a team with five sacks

556
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 1: lead perdue when eleven tackle for losses force three fumbles.

557
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 1: He opted out of his bowl game to prepare for

558
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 1: the NFL Draft. So again I think he's more Ryan Kerrigan,

559
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 1: but the body type will allow him to play at

560
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 1: this level. Now, is he a three down, you know,

561
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 1: d rusher? Possibly, but we know they'd like to rotate

562
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 1: that position. So Karloftis gets us started here on our

563
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 1: countdown from twenty to eleven, staying with lineman as far

564
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Speaker 1: as up near the line of scrimmage and at number

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Speaker 1: nineteen Boston College offensive lineman Zion Johnson senior six three

566
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Speaker 1: three twelve three years staughter, And this is someone that

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00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 1: also can play basically anywhere across the line. He played

568
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 1: both Garden Center and the Senior Bowl. Did start one

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Speaker 1: season at left tackle. So one of those players that

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00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 1: might if he is selected in the first round, could

571
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 1: be a plug and play because where do you have

572
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Speaker 1: a need? All right, let's see if Zion Johnson can

573
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Speaker 1: be that guy at least early on and then develop

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Speaker 1: into your full time whether that's an interior or an

575
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Speaker 1: tackle position. Yeah, I think he's the best guard in

576
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Speaker 1: the draft. I would put him in there, Zion Johnson,

577
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 1: Kenyan Green, and then Darren Kennard kennardia. Um, I mean

578
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 1: he's got the size. You look at him, six two

579
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 1: and three quarters three fourteen. Um, you know he talked

580
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 1: about you know, he benched thirty two, so he's got

581
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 1: the strong hands. Um. He ran a five one eight

582
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 1: and not that that's a big deal, but you can

583
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 1: see he's athletic. He's played in fifty eight games. He

584
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 1: started at forty nine, so he's been around, you know,

585
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 1: in just in his career. Um, you know, the last

586
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 1: couple of years. Um, he's played in Uh, he's had

587
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Speaker 1: ready for this one because we went when we talked

588
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 1: about Lindenbaum pass block snaps thousand and seventy four a

589
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 1: loud three sacks, Wow, three sacks. So this guy, he's

590
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Speaker 1: going to be a first round pick. I think he

591
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 1: should be the first guard off the board, and I

592
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 1: think Kenyan Green will be another one. And you know,

593
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 1: if the Cardinals didn't sign Will Hernanis, I think both

594
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 1: of these guys could have been options if you didn't

595
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 1: have a right guard. And it was interesting to read

596
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 1: that he was asked or maybe it was his own

597
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 1: doing to play or at least show that he could

598
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Speaker 1: also snap the ball and be a center at the

599
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 1: next level, which he did in the Senior Bowl. Yeah,

600
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Speaker 1: he's gonna be according to land Zerline, compared to Larry Wafford.

601
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 1: He said, he's a two time captain with plus intelligence,

602
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 1: big bubble girthie lowers, wingspan, left tackles, strengthened his brute force.

603
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 1: You know, he's a foam booth guy. They made him

604
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 1: where he's He's got good size and so I think

605
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 1: he'll have a long career. And again I do think

606
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 1: he's one of the best guards in this draft. So

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Speaker 1: Zion Johnson checks in at number eighteen. At excuse me,

608
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 1: at number nineteen, get a little ahead of myself. And

609
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Speaker 1: at eighteen Washington cornerback Trent McDuffie five eleven, one ninety three,

610
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 1: a junior and another player that has been mocked to

611
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 1: the Cardinals repeatedly because one need at that position and

612
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 1: into the Cardinals success with drafting Washington players. Yeah, I

613
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: mean he ran a four four. Um he's got you know,

614
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 1: he's not your I mean five eleven one ninety five,

615
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 1: So that means he's not skinny. Third team Associated Press

616
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 1: All American, first Team, All Pac twelve Conference last year

617
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 1: twenty twenty was second team. Um, you know, he's played

618
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 1: in twenty eight games. He started twenty six. Um you know,

619
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Speaker 1: you look at his interception, he's only had two. He's

620
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 1: had eight pass breakups, and he's fourced three fumbles. Again

621
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Speaker 1: you look at his you know background. Of course, we

622
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 1: always talk about Washington. The Cardinals have been very successful

623
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 1: at least Buddha Baker and uh, you know, you look

624
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 1: at Byron Murphy and so between him and Gordon, you know,

625
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 1: these guys are they're gonna get drafted again. I just

626
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 1: don't know based on the Cardinals with Jeff Gladne how

627
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 1: Priory is in the first round. But you know this guy,

628
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 1: he Harry Potter. He's a Harry Potter fan. He can

629
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 1: play the bass, piano, guitar. Wow, a renaissance man. Yeah,

630
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 1: and he once again I don't know how many Bruce Feldman,

631
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 1: but he's on his freakless. He reported a forty one

632
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 1: five vertical and then ten point nine broad So he's

633
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 1: very athletic. I mean again, one ninety five, has got

634
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 1: good size. He will be, he'll be, He'll be one

635
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 1: of the corners. He's not going to be a top ten,

636
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 1: top fifteen to top twenty, but he could land himself early,

637
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 1: late first round, early second round, first team All Pac

638
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 1: twelve performer, just like his teammate Kyler Gordon. And that's

639
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 1: another name, Gordon and mcduffey that I wouldn't say they're

640
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 1: joined at the hip, but those are two names that

641
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 1: you hear a lot with respect to the Arizona Cardinals.

642
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 1: But Bucky Brooks in both his first and second mock

643
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 1: drafts had the Cardinals going with McDuffie. Todd mcshay's second

644
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 1: mock draft had the Cardinals going with Trent McDuffie because

645
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 1: the need that they perceived the need at cornerback. And

646
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 1: this is something interesting as far as what McShay on

647
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 1: part of his ride up with McDuffie looking at the

648
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 1: Cardinals secondary from week fourteen talking about last season. From

649
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 1: Week fourteen until the end of the regular season, only

650
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 1: Houston allowed more passing yards per attempt than the Cardinals

651
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 1: and the Cardinals tied for last in the league with

652
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 1: just one interception from Week fourteen to week seventeen. That's

653
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 1: not good or week eighteen, I should say Lancer line.

654
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 1: When it comes to McDuffie, Jar Alexander one of the

655
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 1: better corners in football with the Green Bay Packers. McDuffie

656
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:43,359
Speaker 1: a three year starter, fearless, aggressive, competitor, tools to live

657
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,280
Speaker 1: in type press man covers from the start. He allowed

658
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 1: sixteen catches for two hundred and ninety six yards in

659
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 1: twenty one so again I didn't see any touchdowns. So

660
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 1: that's good natural feat, you know. And it says right here,

661
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:01,439
Speaker 1: of all the defensive backs that former Washington coach Chris

662
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 1: Peterson recruited, he may be the best the talent, athleticism,

663
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:08,280
Speaker 1: makeup are really clean. According to a scout in the NFC,

664
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 1: says a lot considering the amount of defenders that have

665
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 1: played war in the uniform under Chris Peterson. Correct, yeah,

666
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 1: but I mean the fact that he was a shutdown

667
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 1: coiner about sixteen catches over the course of the year

668
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,280
Speaker 1: and no touchdowns. So keep an eye on. Trent McDuffie

669
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 1: checks in at number eighteen on Mike Jarecki's top fifty

670
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 1: draft prospects. We stay with defense at number seventeen. Georgia

671
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 1: linebacker Quay Walker, a senior only one year as a

672
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 1: starter of this past season. Very productive, but certainly on

673
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 1: your list, MJ because you ranked players, but certainly would

674
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 1: not be on my list. With respect to the Arizona Cardinals, No,

675
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 1: I think they're set it inside linebacker. You know, you

676
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 1: look at Tanner Vallejo and Zeke Turner and then Virgil

677
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 1: Nick Vigil Vigil, excuse me out, So you look at that,

678
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 1: and then you've got Zavin Collins and Simmons. But you know,

679
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 1: he's a guy that career high sixty seven tackles. He

680
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 1: ran a four to five two. His vertical was thirty

681
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 1: two He's sixty four two forty career high and quarterback

682
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:18,280
Speaker 1: pressures allowed thirty receptions, zero touchdowns on thirty four targets,

683
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,760
Speaker 1: and coverage two hundred and eighty six coverage, team high

684
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:25,320
Speaker 1: eight tackles in the National Championship game against Alabama. Started

685
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 1: all fifteen games for the National Champs. As you pointed out,

686
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: the first three years really didn't get a chance to play.

687
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:35,879
Speaker 1: Last year, he finished with one hundred and thirty nine tackles,

688
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 1: eleven tackle for losses, five sacks, and he had a

689
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 1: couple of pass breakups. He will be drafted. He's not

690
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,359
Speaker 1: in the top when it comes to inside linebackers, but

691
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 1: I don't think he's an option for the Cardinals. A

692
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 1: name that got lost based off the talents that Georgia

693
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 1: had on offense and defense, but may have been their

694
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 1: most productive defender. In fact, he was the fourth fastest

695
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 1: linebacker running the forty at four point five two. But

696
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 1: Kuaywalker someone that whomever it is, it's not gonna be

697
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals, but whoever's gonna get is going to

698
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 1: get a productive player at linebacker. Says he put a

699
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,479
Speaker 1: Tennessee hat on for a second, but then he threw

700
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 1: it and relieved he was going to Georgia. He grew

701
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 1: up as a Florida Gator fan. I went to okay,

702
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 1: fan of Gators, but go to Georgia, all right that

703
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 1: I wonder how that went over in the house. But

704
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 1: Tennessee was like yeah, yeah, and then exactly, it's a

705
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 1: picking college. It's just just tell us what you're gonna do.

706
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 1: You may get a big production, doesn't need to be

707
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 1: all right, let's stay in the SEC as we work

708
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 1: our way down to number eleven. Checking in at sixteen.

709
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: Arkansas wide receiver trey Lin Brooks six two to twenty five.

710
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 1: He's a junior, and this is someone that's gained a

711
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,919
Speaker 1: lot of momentum over the past couple of weeks. When

712
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 1: the when you're talking about wide receivers and who might

713
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,439
Speaker 1: be left and available when the Cardinals pick at number

714
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:03,399
Speaker 1: twenty three, Yeah, I'd be interested if he was there

715
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 1: at twenty three instead of trading down. He ran a

716
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 1: four to five five. He's sixty three, two hundred and

717
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 1: twenty five pounds. His vertical was three three, First team

718
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 1: All SEC. He led the team with sixty six receptions

719
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 1: eleven one hundred and forty yards eleven rushing, eleven receiving touchdowns.

720
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 1: It's amazing how you know he led the SEC so

721
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 1: you look at it. According to Bruce Feldman is on

722
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 1: his Freak List ten. He's got ten in a quarter, hands,

723
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:36,240
Speaker 1: three hundred bench max five hundred squad very productive college career,

724
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,839
Speaker 1: one hundred and forty six receptions close to twenty four

725
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 1: hundred yards average, sixteen four a catch, eighteen touchdowns eleven

726
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 1: last year and seven the year before. He also can

727
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 1: return kicks and punts. He is someone that Daniel Jeremiah

728
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 1: mentioned on the Day Pass podcast who you can move around,

729
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 1: whether that's outside, inside, and even in the backfield a

730
00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 1: lah Deebo Samuel. Yeah, that's that's the beauty of I mean,

731
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 1: he's a guy that is very that's a great comp

732
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 1: because that's what a lot of teams are looking for

733
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: and he fits that profile. It's not just he's gonna

734
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 1: line up on the outside and try to outrun you.

735
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 1: He gets that ball and within the line of scrimmage,

736
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 1: he's gonna be hard to tackle and those dbs are

737
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 1: gonna lay their shoulder and he's gonna run him over.

738
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 1: So again, between him and White at twenty three. If

739
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 1: they stay there, it's gonna be a tough choice. But

740
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 1: I definitely think you gotta get weapons for Kyler Murray

741
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 1: Todd McShay on Treylon Burks when he mocked Burks to

742
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:34,399
Speaker 1: the Cardinals recently. Burks is a big target with good

743
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 1: hands and the physicality to tack on extra yards after

744
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 1: the catch. And that's what the Cardinals need from their

745
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 1: wide receivers, is those yak yards, not just catch the

746
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 1: ball and be tackled. Yeah, and if you look in Tennessee,

747
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,879
Speaker 1: a J. Brown according to Lanzer Line, with a little

748
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 1: bit more wiggle as you we pointed out on a

749
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 1: red Sea report. He made eight catches for one hundred

750
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 1: and seventy nyards two touchdowns against Alabama. He's a natural

751
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 1: athlete for being as big as he is. And you see,

752
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 1: guys that he's played three He was a three sports

753
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 1: star in high school, so you can see that it

754
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:15,280
Speaker 1: comes natural to him catching the football, running routes. He's big, smooth, natural,

755
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 1: So I mean, there's a lot of things to like

756
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 1: about him. Quick, urgent, and slippery past pass press coverage,

757
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:25,479
Speaker 1: releases into route. He's really a good route runner. Again,

758
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 1: it's not a finished product, former All Star, All State outfielder,

759
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 1: and he was in he ran track and yeah he's so.

760
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 1: He's played three different sports six times this past season.

761
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 1: One hundred yard receiving game six times. He did that

762
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 1: as a junior. And he's one of those guys like

763
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:51,399
Speaker 1: she uses stiff arm physicality, get off me, So Trey

764
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 1: Loon Brooks. And at number sixteen, another wide receiver. As

765
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 1: we work our way down down to eleven, and at fifteen,

766
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 1: Mike Jerecki's big Ohio state wide receiver, Chris Lave Senior,

767
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 1: six feet one eighty seven. Not nearly as big as

768
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 1: physical as Treylon Buroks, but maybe a little bit more athletic,

769
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 1: a little bit more speed with a Chris Alave. He

770
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 1: ran a four to three nine. He was one of

771
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,359
Speaker 1: the eight guys that ran under a four to four

772
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 1: second teen first all Big Ten twenty and twenty one

773
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:25,240
Speaker 1: set Ohio state career record with thirty five touchdowns twenty

774
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: twenty one, led the Big Ten with thirteen touchdowns. Twenty

775
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 1: twenty he had seven twenty nine yards second in the

776
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,840
Speaker 1: Big Ten. He's played in forty seven games over the

777
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 1: last a few years. He started twenty five one hundred

778
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 1: and seventy six receptions, twenty seven hundred yards, fifteen and

779
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 1: thirty five touchdowns. He had thirteen this previous season, seven

780
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,800
Speaker 1: and twelve, so he's been really productive since twenty nineteen.

781
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 1: An outside wide receiver, He's got that six foot frame,

782
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 1: but he needs to add some weight. At one eighty seven,

783
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 1: he is only seven pounds heavier than ron Dell Moore,

784
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 1: but he has five inches taller than ron Dell Moore.

785
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 1: And you would think once he gets into a program

786
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 1: and offseason program with the team, he'll add I would

787
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 1: say maybe another eight to ten pounds. He would just

788
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 1: have to to be able to survive. Well, you look

789
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 1: at DeVante Smith. That's one year. I know you're right.

790
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 1: We'll see, we'll see what happens. Usually when you get

791
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 1: into a program, you know here guys getting you know,

792
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,959
Speaker 1: stronger in the weight room. The compass Terry McLaren, who's

793
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 1: had a really good career underrated wide receiver. Um was

794
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 1: a second round pick. I like the strengths here, Buttery's smooth,

795
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 1: able to jab and juke, press coverage, top end speed

796
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 1: creates vertical opportunities. Again weaknesses. Scheme provided a lot of

797
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 1: room for free play, lack of desire to play strength

798
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:54,439
Speaker 1: with strength and become a concern room for it, says

799
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 1: put on weight as you pointed out. So he's going

800
00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 1: to be one of the top receivers coming off the board.

801
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 1: I think early in the draft, and a name that

802
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 1: earlier in his series of mock drafts, mel kiper Junior

803
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 1: peg to the Cardinals at number twenty three riding think

804
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 1: of Alive as more of a replacement for aj Green.

805
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 1: Alave can line up outside and run Chris routes to

806
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: beat cornerbacks. Nice because we always talk about six two

807
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 1: or six three guys. According to a scout, I love

808
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 1: his ball skills and speed, but I don't like his

809
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 1: frame and strength. He'll get neutralized by certain corners. How

810
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 1: physical is he off the line of scrimmage? Exactly what

811
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 1: you said. All right, let's look at the other side

812
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 1: of the ball. We go back to the defense, counting

813
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:40,720
Speaker 1: down to number fourteen, a defensive tackle out of Georgia.

814
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:44,320
Speaker 1: The other defensive tackle Jordan Davis six sixty three, forty

815
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:47,800
Speaker 1: one and athletic freak based off his numbers at the

816
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:51,240
Speaker 1: scouting combine. Yeah, I mean three hundred and forty pounds.

817
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 1: He ran a four seven eight. He lifted thirty two.

818
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 1: That's that's strong playing interior now, I think it's loading

819
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 1: that a type of Dante Don Terry Poe winner of

820
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:06,240
Speaker 1: the Chuck Beneric Award for the Top Defensive Player Outland

821
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:10,879
Speaker 1: Trophy Most Outstanding Interior Lineman, First Team All Associated Press,

822
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 1: All American, First Team All SEC. You know, he's played

823
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 1: in thirty three games, thirty seven solo tackles, ninety one

824
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 1: total tackles, tackle for lost, twelve and a half, seven sacks,

825
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 1: and he does have a couple of pass breakups, probably

826
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:29,959
Speaker 1: more tip balls. Obviously a guy that you know, people

827
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 1: are concerned. You know, his endurance. He may have to

828
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 1: lose a little bit of weight, even though you kind

829
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 1: of like a guy that can run, you know, four

830
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 1: seven eight for that size. But he's gonna get drafted again.

831
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 1: These guys are not going to play sixty five snaps

832
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 1: a game. The comp from Lanser Langu was Helodi Nada.

833
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 1: He's beefy, he's a mountain nose tackle size. I mean,

834
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 1: he's gonna be hard to push out. You look at

835
00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:01,840
Speaker 1: Holodi Nada and on Terry Poe, and they're hard to

836
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 1: push and again you just needed space heaters and hopefully

837
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 1: you get that from Lucky Foe two and Rashad Lawrence,

838
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:11,760
Speaker 1: the nation's best defensive player, the nation's best interior lineman

839
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 1: talking about Jordan Davis, Bucky Brooks riding about Davis with

840
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 1: respects to the Cardinals. Davis plays like a bull in

841
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 1: a china shop at the point of attack. Would give

842
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 1: the Cardinals a disruptive defender in the middle of their

843
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 1: front line. So certainly fills a need. Not going to

844
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:30,240
Speaker 1: say he's an Aaron Donald type, but someone to occupy

845
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:34,360
Speaker 1: space and be disruptive in there. Whomever were us, the

846
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 1: quarterback or the running back. Well, this is encouraging. Never

847
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:39,720
Speaker 1: on the ground won't be backed by a single player.

848
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:44,840
Speaker 1: He was size to overwhelm certain opponents, potential alter opponents

849
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 1: game plan. He is someone that would stand out in

850
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 1: the crowd if you will. And it's Jordan Davis and

851
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:55,240
Speaker 1: it's DeVante Wyatt, the two defensive tackles out of Georgia.

852
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 1: But people like Davis better just because of his size.

853
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 1: Right now and then he was a little bit more

854
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 1: productive than why it was last season exactly, But I like,

855
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 1: I like why it over Davis because of the potential

856
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:10,320
Speaker 1: to him be on the field a little bit more

857
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:14,959
Speaker 1: or just more STAPs with him based off of Davis's side,

858
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 1: I just you know, again, guys played at three forty.

859
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: We've seen it. You know, Tony Saragosa comes to mind.

860
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 1: I just think the other guy can maybe do a

861
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 1: little bit more than just be a run stuffer. All right,

862
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 1: So Jordan Davis at number fourteen. At number thirteen, Utah

863
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:35,399
Speaker 1: linebacker Devin Lloyd, a junior sixty three, two thirty seven.

864
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 1: Again it's an off ball linebacker, not in play for

865
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,919
Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals, but he does make Mike Dreki's top

866
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 1: fifty checking in at number thirteen. This guy was you

867
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 1: talk about a good player. Ran a four to six six.

868
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 1: He's two hundred and thirty five pounds. First team Associated

869
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 1: Press All American Pac twelve Conference Defensive Player of the Year,

870
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 1: two time first team All Pac twelve and twenty twenty

871
00:46:56,920 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 1: and twenty one, third time team leader tackles. Over the

872
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 1: last three years, he had two hundred and fifty five tackles,

873
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 1: forty three tackle for losses, sixteen sacks, five interceptions. He

874
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 1: did have, um, you know, a couple of touchdowns he

875
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 1: returned for touchdowns, pass breakups, quarterback hits, forrest fumble. So

876
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 1: he played in forty seven games start at thirty two.

877
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 1: Maybe because he played at Utah, maybe he didn't get

878
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:29,399
Speaker 1: the credit considered when the PAC twelve and everything else.

879
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 1: He's compared to Willie Gay. Ability to play multiple linebacker

880
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 1: positions filled the two twenty one statute across the board,

881
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:43,720
Speaker 1: tremendously physical and aggressive, keeps play. He uses his shoulder

882
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 1: to obviously make tackles. So somebody's gonna get a good

883
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 1: player here. And if you're looking for a linebacker, you

884
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 1: know this guy. I think he'll you know, he'll be

885
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 1: a plug and play guy. I don't know right away,

886
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 1: but it looks like he can be a guy that

887
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:58,359
Speaker 1: can play in the league for a while. Size why

888
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,319
Speaker 1: is not much different than I Zah Simmons. And you

889
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 1: look at the production level as far as what he

890
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 1: did tackles, tackles for loss, the sacks, interceptions, passive defense.

891
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:10,760
Speaker 1: Telling me if you didn't watch a lot of Utah

892
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 1: football this past season, He's all over the field, whether

893
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 1: that's at the line of scrimmage, middle of the defense,

894
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 1: or dropping into coverage. Because you don't get four interceptions

895
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 1: and six passive defense by standing in the middle of defense. No, No,

896
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:25,319
Speaker 1: And you know at forty three tackle for losses, so

897
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 1: you can put him on the line of scrimmage and

898
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 1: tackle for losses doesn't mean it was running back. Sometimes

899
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 1: it could be just you know, hitting the quarterback or

900
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 1: you know, making sure that they don't get any traction

901
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 1: to run through. His father, Joe was in the military

902
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 1: for twenty six years, so obviously you know he's from California,

903
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 1: but growing up he moved around a few different times.

904
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 1: So Devin Lloyd and at number thirteen, we've got two

905
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 1: more left tier on this edition of Cardinals Cover two

906
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:56,879
Speaker 1: presented by Hunday probab partner of the Arizona Cardinals, both

907
00:48:56,920 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 1: offensive players. Number twelve Alabama wide receiver Jamison Williams. Everyone

908
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,760
Speaker 1: knows his story suffered at twenty acl in the National

909
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 1: Championship Game. There's a lot of people will even I

910
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 1: believe even himself thinks that he will be ready for

911
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 1: Week one, but it certainly did. At least initially, people

912
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 1: thought it would hurt his draft status as far as

913
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 1: his stock is. He a top five, top ten pick,

914
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 1: but you have him coming in at number twelve, even

915
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 1: knowing that he might not be around or available for

916
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,919
Speaker 1: offseason workout. If he didn't tear his ACL, he would

917
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 1: have been the number one wide receiver coming out. And

918
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 1: again I always say they're not drafting him for one years.

919
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:36,840
Speaker 1: He's rehabbing. He could be available possibly in mid season.

920
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:41,320
Speaker 1: I mean the numbers are outstanding. You look at six

921
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:46,240
Speaker 1: two nine, good size. He's played in thirty seven games

922
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 1: the last couple of years. He's played in twenty one

923
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 1: ninety four receptions, eight hundred and thirty eight yards nineteen

924
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 1: point six per reception. He had fifteen touchdowns last year

925
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 1: total eighteen. He also returns kicks and so he's been

926
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 1: he's been one of the most dynamic players in college football.

927
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 1: His nickname is Joe Moo Jmo okay. I can see

928
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 1: that now. His his mother, his father, and his brother

929
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 1: all ran track. He was the only one that to

930
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 1: run track in college. Well, he's still be interested in

931
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:27,799
Speaker 1: what his speed is now post ACL injury. But as

932
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 1: a first team All SEC wide receiver and the Co

933
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 1: SEC Special Teams Player of the Year, you gotta be

934
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 1: doing something right as far as your speed. They said

935
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 1: he was timed at one time at four two five.

936
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 1: Oh wow, that was before, but I mean six two Craig,

937
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 1: you would think, the guys, you know, that's good, really

938
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 1: good size. I mean again, he tours acl in the

939
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:52,879
Speaker 1: championship game and then happened on January ninth, now one

940
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 1: seventy nine, so he's even smaller than Chris Lave. But

941
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 1: you would think, again, you get into a workout program

942
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 1: and you get with the team, he'll be able to

943
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 1: add some meat on those bones, if you will, and

944
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:06,919
Speaker 1: that I don't know if it would slow him down,

945
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:08,840
Speaker 1: but at least make a little bit more physical. He

946
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:11,959
Speaker 1: transferred from Ohio State to Alabama because of the deep

947
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 1: debt chart at os Shoe with the departure of Davante

948
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:17,839
Speaker 1: Smith and Jalen Waddle with the Tide, So that's why

949
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 1: he went there. And all of a sudden, Alabama getting

950
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 1: known for his wide receivers and wide receivers I mean

951
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 1: guys that are first round picks. All right, last draft

952
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 1: prospect that we will touch on here in this episode,

953
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 1: and at number eleven, Mississippi State offensive tackle Charles cross,

954
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 1: a red shirt sophomore six to five three h seventy's

955
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 1: got good size to be one of your anchors at

956
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 1: either left or right tackle. Yeah, this guy can go

957
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 1: a lot higher than maybe people are projecting. Um, he's

958
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 1: if you're looking for a left tackle, you're looking for

959
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 1: a right tackle. You know, he did a he hit

960
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 1: a four nine five, which is impressive for a guy

961
00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 1: six five. You start, he's only played, really started twenty

962
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 1: two games. You know, last he's played in twenty five

963
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 1: the last two years, he's played in twenty two. Here

964
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 1: we go again. Craig pass block snaps twelve hundred and

965
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 1: fifty four. He gave up eight sacks according to Pro

966
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:18,399
Speaker 1: Football Focus. So he's a plugin play guy. And if

967
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 1: you're a team, maybe like Carolina, even though they may

968
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:22,720
Speaker 1: go for a quarterback, you want to protect your quarterback.

969
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 1: He's a he's a big guy, and he was first

970
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 1: team All SEC. He started twelve games at left tackle,

971
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:33,320
Speaker 1: did not let a pressure on sixty six blocking snacks

972
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 1: versus album opted out of the team's bowl game to

973
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:39,840
Speaker 1: prepare for the draft. Well, if you're looking to find

974
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 1: someone to protect your young quarterback, you know whether that's

975
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 1: and I think it's an option for the Jacksonville Jaguars.

976
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:49,879
Speaker 1: But you go down the line. As far as who

977
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 1: needs some protection on your blind side, I could see

978
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:56,439
Speaker 1: Charles Cross even getting into the top ten based off

979
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:58,839
Speaker 1: of the need to protect your most valuable weapon. Yeah,

980
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 1: and and based on you know, Jacksonville going out and

981
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 1: signing Brandon Sheriff and bringing in some I would think

982
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 1: they're gonna go defense, probably Aiden Hutchinson. So the compass

983
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:11,799
Speaker 1: Taylor Moten and we know about him, he got paid

984
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 1: really good right tackle for Carolina and Tristan Worse. He

985
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:20,720
Speaker 1: said physical like Morton Moten, but like Worse, he plays

986
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 1: like it. Um frame is he's he's he's a he

987
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 1: was a two year starter, high level of consistency from

988
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 1: game to game, no matter the opponent. Um, he held

989
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 1: his own. And so he's gonna be a good pick.

990
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 1: And when you start talking about Trinston Worse, what he's

991
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 1: done with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Taylor Moten, Tyler

992
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 1: Moten was a you know, a guy that the Carolina

993
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:46,800
Speaker 1: was excited about and they gave a huge contract. So, um,

994
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 1: I think he's that's a pretty good comparison according to

995
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 1: the Lancer line. So Charles Cross closes out our countdown

996
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 1: twenty to eleven. On Mike Jarecki's big Board Top fifty

997
00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 1: draft Prospects. We've got one more set of ten to

998
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 1: get to ahead the twenty twenty two NFL Draft, and

999
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:08,399
Speaker 1: a reminder Draft party presented by Arizona four Dealers, will

1000
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:11,279
Speaker 1: take place Thursday, April twenty eighth on the Great Lawn

1001
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 1: outside State Farm Stadium from four to nine. Admission and

1002
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 1: parking are both free. There will be a special post

1003
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 1: draft firework show and also kids interactive zone. Cardinals players

1004
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 1: and cheerleaders will be out there as well for autographs

1005
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 1: and pictures, so you can spend your day cheering on

1006
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals and their pick, whether that's at number

1007
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:35,839
Speaker 1: twenty three or perhaps maybe they move up. More likely

1008
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:37,719
Speaker 1: they would move down if they don't stay put at

1009
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:40,399
Speaker 1: number twenty three. But certainly a fun time and it's

1010
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 1: great to have the draft party back after so many

1011
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:46,439
Speaker 1: years of not doing it because of the pandemic. Yeah,

1012
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:48,799
Speaker 1: and you know the Cardinals will pick in twenty three,

1013
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:50,879
Speaker 1: whether they stay there and they move up or move down.

1014
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 1: Don't forget fireworks, absolutely so stick around, bring the family exactly.

1015
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 1: It'd be great time. Well, it'll be nice, so good

1016
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 1: time for all go toasy Cardinals dot com for more

1017
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 1: information on that. And on that note, we will put

1018
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:07,360
Speaker 1: a lid on this edition of Cardinals Cover two presented

1019
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 1: by Hunday, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals. As always,

1020
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 1: special thanks to our executive producer Jim Molmandro for Mike Jarecki.

1021
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Speaker 1: I'm Craig Rayel Lou. We'll talk to you next time

1022
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Speaker 1: here on Cardinals Cover two