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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

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Speaker 1: This is Nick Shot, streaming live on Dallascowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the official Dallas Cowboys apt now. Here are Bill Jones,

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Speaker 1: Hecma Harrison, Everson Wolves, and Mickey Spagnola.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what the occasion was last week, but

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Speaker 3: last week we got a fight song to start off

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Speaker 3: the show. But not this week, no fight song. It's

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Speaker 3: down to business here as super Bowl week as underway

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Speaker 3: in Santa Claric, California. Yes, sir, we are with Mick Shots,

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Speaker 3: Bill Jones, heck Ma Harrison. You heard his voice there

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Speaker 3: he waved you on here inside the SWBC podcast studio,

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Speaker 3: Everson Walls, and it's the return of Mickey Spagnola with

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Speaker 3: a legal pad that is full of notes from two

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Speaker 3: weeks worth of things that have happened. Because Mickey was

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Speaker 3: not with us last week. So what was the fight

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Speaker 3: song for? We had their usual fight song are Stampede,

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Speaker 3: We stampeded whatever? But that okay? Now, Producer Supreme explains

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Speaker 3: to me, I'm a little slow. It was because of

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Speaker 3: the defensive coordinator that we had a fight song last.

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Speaker 4: Week because they hired one.

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Speaker 3: They hired one.

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Speaker 4: Oh okay, and we got to get your take on

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Speaker 4: that and more celebrated.

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Speaker 3: Or hirings taking place inside the building. We might have

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Speaker 3: a defensive staff finalized the early part of this week.

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Speaker 3: But as we get started, how's everybody doing?

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Speaker 5: Ever since? I am doing just fine.

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Speaker 6: I actually went to I was telling heck, I went

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Speaker 6: to church yesterday, and the good catching up with the

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Speaker 6: people in my neighborhood. They always make you feel good

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Speaker 6: when you go back. You know, that's how you grew up,

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Speaker 6: grew up with those same people. Now we've all gotten older,

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Speaker 6: you know, now with the old people in church. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: we just talked about old people. Got we're the old

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Speaker 6: people at church now. So yeah, just good church you

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Speaker 6: grew up in. And I'm going to talk first Baptist,

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Speaker 6: all right, but now I'm at the Life Church.

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Speaker 5: Yes, all right, very good, that's right.

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Speaker 3: Heck, buddy, do you have a event full weekend?

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Speaker 7: Of course? Calling basketball games? I was in Stephenville on Saturday.

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Speaker 7: I was at NBA G League basketball yesterday. So man basketball,

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Speaker 7: basketball and more baskets. So you you you you were

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Speaker 7: kind of sharp.

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Speaker 5: Uh. The last time we saw you. Yeah, I was,

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Speaker 5: wasn't it. I forgot all about that.

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Speaker 6: I forgot all about yeah yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, no, no that that went well. It was a doubleheader.

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Speaker 7: Uh so yeah, Like I said, man, this is this

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Speaker 7: is my season. Man. It's transitions from football right into basketball.

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Speaker 3: So I got it for all seasons.

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Speaker 5: Better believe it. And lacrosse is about that. Get in that.

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Speaker 3: Do you broadcast lacrosse too?

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Speaker 5: Of course? I do you know the rules?

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Speaker 6: I mean, come on, I have no idea, Yeah at all,

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Speaker 6: no idea about me.

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Speaker 4: Both you take the net stick and that thing.

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Speaker 5: I think I could probably do it. You probably could.

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Speaker 7: You probably would have been You probably would have been

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Speaker 7: really good at lacrosse too. But yeah, man, it's I

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Speaker 7: I have been for the last six years.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, in our neighborhood and I like that.

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Speaker 7: But so I've been doing that. So yeah, man, that's

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Speaker 7: what I do. Been an eventful weekend, Bill.

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Speaker 3: All right, Very good about you, Mickey.

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Speaker 4: I did nothing, that's what change. Didn't have anything.

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Speaker 3: I did nothing, but the week before, none of us did

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Speaker 3: if it's in the shape. Let me tell you something.

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Speaker 3: My garage driveway is on the north side of the house.

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Speaker 3: And this was hilarious. This was Thursday night or Friday night.

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Speaker 3: It was Thursday night, and I took the trash out. Okay,

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Speaker 6: It was amaz you don't have ice, uh the back

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Speaker 3: So I spent all day Friday just and you can't.

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Speaker 4: I had three four inches of solid ice. There was

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Speaker 5: That's why we couldn't have a shelf.

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Speaker 3: That was snow. You couldn't get delayed last week because of.

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Speaker 4: You, because you know they shut down. But I couldn't

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Speaker 5: No.

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Speaker 4: I took a pick axe and started busting it up

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Speaker 5: You need to stop.

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Speaker 6: Okay, every time you get outside trying to do something here,

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Speaker 6: you come back with a cask on youall. I could

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Speaker 6: have your thumb or something. Just I just relax.

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Speaker 4: I could have ice.

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Speaker 6: No one's picking up the trash out there. You know,

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Speaker 4: Put I could ice skate on the street out front. Okay,

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Speaker 4: it was that thick, no snow, just ice.

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Speaker 5: It was.

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Speaker 3: It was like a hockey rink either way.

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Speaker 4: I did take out my hockey stick in a park

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Speaker 4: and I shot at the mailbox. Practice my shot.

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Speaker 3: Okay, very good. So enough of that talk. Now, let's

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Speaker 5: What were we talking about?

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Speaker 4: And by the way, I wasn't here Thursday. I was

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Speaker 6: Okay, that's right, right, that's correct.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So where would you like to start on your

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Speaker 5: There?

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Speaker 4: Oh boy, I assume you guys have talked about Christian Parker.

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Speaker 3: Well, we need to hear your take on Christian Parker,

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Speaker 3: the new defensive coordinator thirty four years old the Philadelphia.

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Speaker 4: Eagles made me think, what was I doing it? Thirty

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Speaker 4: that's pretty mecurical rise to be taken. And I think

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Speaker 4: where I think I saw a quote from Sirianni when

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Speaker 4: they hired him as they're their assistant coach, and somebody

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Speaker 4: asked him about being so young. He goes, I don't know,

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Speaker 3: No one knew who I was.

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Speaker 4: So and he's worked under some pretty good guys. The

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Speaker 4: they could trust, so yeah, why not let's go. Then

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Speaker 4: he just has to be able to put a staff together.

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Speaker 4: And they made what two more hires here over the weekend,

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Speaker 4: Ryan Smith cornerback secondary coach and Derek Annsley as the

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Speaker 4: past game core. It seems that they've tripled down on.

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Speaker 3: The secondary because you got park Parker, Yep.

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Speaker 4: That's his deal, and then you hired two more.

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Speaker 3: I think they needed to quadruple down on the secondary.

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Speaker 4: Well, they need as many cornerbacks as they have assistant coaches, right.

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Speaker 6: Don't ask me about them anymore because everyone I picked, man,

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Speaker 6: they even I'm not here anymore, you know, underperforming.

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Speaker 3: So so Derek Ansley, who was that higher, was just

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Speaker 6: How was he with the Packers? Will give me some numbers.

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Speaker 6: I mean to say that he had a position is

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Speaker 6: one thing, But you know were they still what they did.

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Speaker 7: Is in the thirteenth and eleventh in the NFL and

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Speaker 7: passing not.

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Speaker 4: Bad Page thirty two.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that even if he had a pretty

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Speaker 4: And he also he also coached under Sabin at Alabama,

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Speaker 4: so he was coaching. He was used to working with Giggs,

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Speaker 3: So he was he would have been early on with

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Speaker 3: not that it matters because Diggs ain't here anymore.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, no, Right, he had one game with him. That's nice.

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Speaker 3: So Derek Angel and then Ryan Smith is he listed cornerbacks.

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Speaker 4: So they still need a linebacker coach and a defensive

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Speaker 4: to the Tennessee Titans.

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Speaker 3: As a defensive line coach and run game coordinator.

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Speaker 7: There and would or be the if I know they

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Speaker 7: interviewed him, they interviewed them, hadn't heard anything if you

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Speaker 7: know he was interviewing for a defensive coordinator position. But

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Speaker 7: I guess how many more positions do you have to

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Speaker 4: Linebacker and defensive line.

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Speaker 3: you could have a senior analyst. I mean there's all

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Speaker 4: And Or is a local guy.

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Speaker 3: He's from De Soto u Ye, North Texas in North Texas.

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Speaker 4: Played there and he coached there.

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Speaker 5: And well, he took it. He took a familiar out,

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Speaker 6: And tea uh Texas he took he took a familiar out.

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Speaker 5: That's a good one.

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Speaker 4: Now, shot he would have been uh familiar with him,

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Speaker 4: right they were. He's familiar with everybody. He's at some

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Speaker 7: It has been musical chairs for the last two weeks

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Speaker 6: Yeah, a lot of movement, especially on the I wouldn't

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Speaker 6: A lot of minorities are moving around in that area.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, already is I mean, it's started already, But I mean, look,

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Speaker 7: But as far as offensive coordinator, they can't figure that out.

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Speaker 7: I'm just saying, you know, with that whole thing that's

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Speaker 6: In other words, is some coaches going into this offseason

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Speaker 5: I better cover my.

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Speaker 4: On your list of new head coaches, how many had

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Speaker 3: Okay, well let's run down the list.

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Speaker 5: That's a good question.

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Speaker 3: So just to update. Okay, So the Giants iired John

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Speaker 3: Who Cleveland was Todd Mankin? Todd Monkin who has not

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Speaker 4: So nobody came from college is that right?

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Speaker 4: And the assumption is because when this happened, I said,

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Speaker 3: So there were four with head coaching experience out of the.

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Speaker 4: Ten, yes, and the rest had been coordinators. So just

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 4: That seems to be the stepping stone, right, And they

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Speaker 3: Interesting, And so what do you think of Mike McCarthy

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Speaker 5: Now?

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Speaker 4: I thought it was I thought so too once preordained.

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Speaker 6: I thought all of them played it real safe, you know,

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Speaker 6: I don't really know how that's gonna make them better.

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Speaker 3: Had Lamar Jackson, Well, he was at Georgia offensive coordinator

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Speaker 6: I think I think I think they what I think

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Speaker 3: Three had American head coaches who either quit on their

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Speaker 4: Did anybody get hired that had a good quarterback? Like rehired.

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Speaker 3: Who had a good quarterback who didn't have.

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Speaker 5: A good Okay?

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Speaker 4: Who you see any relationship between having a quarterback and

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Speaker 6: Job, Josh Allen, Josh Allen, So you're.

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Speaker 3: Talking about the ones who got hired, like coaches who

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Speaker 4: That didn't have a good quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Kevin Stefanski from Cleveland to it right right, Okay? And

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he got fired.

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Speaker 5: He got fired. Is that the question?

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Speaker 4: I mean question, Usually the head coach is as good

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Speaker 3: How good were so you're talking about the ones who

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Speaker 4: By yeah, the quarters time they have good quarterbacks when

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Speaker 7: I think the ultimate guy would you, Well, he didn't

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Speaker 4: And like the other thing, McCarthy gets the job in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 3: And but that may be one of the reasons he

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Speaker 4: Except at the end, well it wasn't a good history.

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Speaker 7: What can I say this, Mike McCarthy's probably got to

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Speaker 5: And nobody.

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Speaker 7: I mean, look, there's not a lot of you know lately,

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Speaker 7: And that's that really is that is really kind of crazy,

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Speaker 5: Dude, that is that's huge.

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Speaker 4: And raised in Kansas City's assistant.

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Speaker 5: Put that on his put that on his headstone right there.

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Speaker 3: He wasn't he wasn't emotional at that pres conference just

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Speaker 7: Oh he cried in the car. He has his times, definitely,

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Speaker 3: All right, we continue here on Mixed Shots, and Hekma

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Speaker 3: has set up this segment perfectly. And how did you

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Speaker 3: center it up again?

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Speaker 7: Damn it, I don't remember, you know, I did it

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Speaker 7: right now, But I was Basically what I was alluding to,

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Speaker 7: is this offense with all the success that they've had

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Speaker 7: this season, and the defense with all the problems that

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Speaker 7: they've had this season. The offseason philosophy has been that

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Speaker 7: you have to overhaul and improve the defense with not

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Speaker 7: a lot being talked about the offense. Do you leave

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Speaker 7: this offense, do you feel like it's well and leave

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Speaker 7: well enough alone, or do you feel like there are

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Speaker 7: still improvements that can be made on the offensive ends

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Speaker 7: of the ball as well.

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Speaker 5: I keep looking at that red zone.

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Speaker 6: There are times when we lost games because we did

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Speaker 6: what Mickey's always warning us about. It's kicking field goals.

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Speaker 6: I'm pretty sure, you know, I guess comparatively, speaking of course,

478
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Speaker 6: considering how well the offense did play, I'm sure that

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Speaker 6: the red zone success has failed compared to the rest

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Speaker 6: of the elements of our offense. I think that's and

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Speaker 6: that was the reason that we lost some games. Carolina

482
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Speaker 6: game is the reason we lost it. I thought, failing

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Speaker 6: against Chicago in the red zone, not being able to

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Speaker 6: get those moved to chains on some of those third

485
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Speaker 6: downs that we really needed as well outside of the

486
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Speaker 6: red zone, and I think they all came from something

487
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Speaker 6: happening on that offensive line that always breaks down when

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Speaker 6: we really needed the most. In those I would say

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Speaker 6: it wasn't a majority, but it was some situations where

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Speaker 6: we needed that. They could have possibly turned the team around.

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Speaker 3: In the ranking on the red zone, offense eighteenth in

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Speaker 3: the league this year and third down twelfth in the league,

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Speaker 3: which looks great when you compare it with the defense

494
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Speaker 3: ranking twenty ninth in red zone and thirty second on

495
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Speaker 3: third down across our fourth down, but it fourth down

496
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Speaker 3: they were I don't have the ranking of the league,

497
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Speaker 3: but the thirty twenty two for thirty five sixty three.

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Speaker 4: So are we There's the question, arise from a coaching

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Speaker 4: standpoint or a personnel stamp?

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Speaker 5: Personnel? I think personnel.

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Speaker 3: I think you always answer your question. I think you

502
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Speaker 3: always have to be tweaking it. I mean, you can't

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Speaker 3: stand pat with what you've gotten. And because I mean

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Speaker 3: if you're either going forward or you're going backward.

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean you hit it. You mentioned offensive line.

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Speaker 4: If there's one, Well, we got to see what happens

507
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Speaker 4: in free agency, right do they re sign the running

508
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Speaker 4: back to re sign Pickens? But from an offensive line standpoint,

509
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Speaker 4: that has to get more consistent and consistent not only

510
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Speaker 4: with deciding who's your left tackle, but then your backups too,

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Speaker 4: because they I thought somewhat okay in the middle with

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Speaker 4: the backups, but once you had injuries at tackle, you

513
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Speaker 4: ended up having to move your Pro Bowl All Pro

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Speaker 4: guard to tackle.

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Speaker 3: So along those lines, as far as the backups go,

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Speaker 3: brock Hoffman and TJ. Bass are restricted free agents, right. Otherwise,

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Speaker 3: Robert Jones, we forget about him because he got hurt

518
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Speaker 3: in training camp and he was the unrestricted free agent

519
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Speaker 3: guard signing. He is an unrestricted free agent, and Aichemadenergy

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Speaker 3: is as well, just as far as free agency's concerned.

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Speaker 4: So I think they got to keep their eye on that.

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Speaker 4: But in the draft, you ain't got a second or

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Speaker 4: third round pick, right, So we.

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Speaker 3: Talk about, oh I got two first round picks. Well,

525
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Speaker 3: then they don't pick again until the fourth round.

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Speaker 4: No day two picks.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 4: So somebody asked me, what can you trade and get

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Speaker 4: a second or third for?

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Speaker 5: What?

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Speaker 4: Who do you got? You can is expendable or somebody

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Speaker 4: would want in a trade?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 3: Well, you trade? What the way you do it to

535
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Speaker 3: pick up a second or third is is what to

536
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Speaker 3: do what you did with the Tyler Geiton trade, where

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Speaker 3: you traded you could have taken Graham Barton if you

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Speaker 3: wanted to at twenty four or twenty five. You traded

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Speaker 3: down to twenty nine, and then you picked up a

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Speaker 3: third round pick, and what you wound up doing with

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Speaker 3: that pick is you got Guidon in the first round,

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Speaker 3: you get Cooper b B in the third round, or

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Speaker 3: you could have stayed where you were and taken the

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Speaker 3: center of Graham Barton.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to touch that twelve.

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Speaker 6: I think maybe it's just me being naive, but I

547
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Speaker 6: think it would be easier to find a free agent

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Speaker 6: for that offensive line, you know, as opposed to trying

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Speaker 6: to draft someone.

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Speaker 3: And usually creation is going to be able to contribute immediately.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, bas they're probably familiar with the system whoever

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Speaker 6: we do sign, so to me, I think that's the

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Speaker 6: best way to go and leave our draft to do

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Speaker 6: something important with them.

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Speaker 7: This this playoff season really has kind of put me

556
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Speaker 7: in the mind of and you know this is you

557
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Speaker 7: know you need it. You need defenses in January to

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Speaker 7: win playoff football, and looking at the Super Bowl match up,

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Speaker 7: your offense just be good enough, right, both of those offenses,

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Speaker 7: right Seattle's offense and New England's offense. In our case,

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Speaker 7: we I just feel like we have an elite level offense,

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Speaker 7: especially with the production offensive line wise. We talk about

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Speaker 7: personnel and you know, wherever else we can get better,

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Speaker 7: it's continuity for me on the offensive line. Can you

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Speaker 7: get better through the draft at the offensive line? Try

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Speaker 7: and sell that to the to the to the Cowboys

567
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Speaker 7: fans right now, they don't want to hear anything about

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Speaker 7: you know anything about that. But also you know there

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Speaker 7: there are other things when you look in this draft

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Speaker 7: and the guys that you have to re sign. When

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Speaker 7: you talk about your running at the running back position,

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Speaker 7: there are running backs in this draft that are really

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Speaker 7: really good. Do you take a stab at a running

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Speaker 7: back in this draft?

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Speaker 6: Because take a stab running back in the draft more

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Speaker 6: than I would alignment. Uh in the draft. I take

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Speaker 6: I take a running back in the draft.

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Speaker 4: I take it yet, but you ain't getting it to

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Speaker 4: fourth or fifth round.

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Speaker 7: So that's my thing. And so you're automatically running back

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Speaker 7: four not in the first round.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, no way, find good running backs in the fourth round.

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Speaker 6: You can still find good running backs in the fourth round. Wow,

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Speaker 6: there's always good running backs out there, you just get

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Speaker 6: them with the right Well.

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Speaker 4: Look at it. I mean I haven't analyzed the draft,

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Speaker 4: but how many running backs are going to be in

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Speaker 4: the first round besides the kid from nordre Ding.

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Speaker 7: Yeah that's he's probably your top top ten.

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Speaker 4: Yeah he is right after that.

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Speaker 5: He's special.

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Speaker 4: So and think about this. If you don't re sign Pickens,

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Speaker 4: who's your second wide receiver? Okay, right now, you feel

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Speaker 4: good about that.

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Speaker 6: I just answered your question.

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Speaker 4: I like fourth to come out here.

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Speaker 3: And by the way, as far as.

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Speaker 7: I didn't want to be the first, I guess I

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Speaker 7: didn't say anything because I don't even want to have

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Speaker 7: that conversation. I don't even want to talk about that.

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Speaker 7: We already stayed with tagging. We're tagging. We already said

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Speaker 7: Nate for Frisco already said we're tagging pickings.

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Speaker 5: Let's get over and let's move on to the next.

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Speaker 3: By the way, as far as the learning from these

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Speaker 3: Super Bowl teams is, Heckman pointed out the defenses points allowed,

606
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Speaker 3: Seattle's first in the league in the regular season and

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Speaker 3: even just as good in the postseason. The Patriots fourth

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Speaker 3: in the league in points allowed, okay, and but offensively,

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Speaker 3: the Patriots do have a guy who's neck and neck

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Speaker 3: with Matthew Stafford. For the m v p as they

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Speaker 3: were second in the league in points scored, third in

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Speaker 3: total offense, and Seattle third in the league in points scored,

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Speaker 3: in eighth and total offense this season, so there were

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Speaker 3: no slouches on offense as well. And you know, he

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Speaker 3: point is, you can't leave the offense alone and just

616
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Speaker 3: assume that it's going to be what it was last year.

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Speaker 6: You always you can't ignore the fact that both teams

618
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Speaker 6: also have a very good and consistent running game. Talk

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Speaker 6: about it, and that's to me, that's what makes all

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Speaker 6: the difference when you start talking about uh defense number

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Speaker 6: one until in the playoffs, the running game is to me, well, no,

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Speaker 6: having having a hell of a quarterback is the number

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Speaker 6: two thing. And having a good running game, to me

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Speaker 6: is the number which.

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Speaker 4: Goes back to your second wide receiver and your number

626
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Speaker 4: one running back. What if you don't resign him, somebody

627
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Speaker 4: pays more than you want to pay. What do you

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Speaker 4: got at twelve hundred yards rushing? Let the team in touchdowns?

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Speaker 5: He's special, He is definitely special, But you know him.

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Speaker 4: To the same boat though, right, Kenneth Walker, Right, he's

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Speaker 4: going to be a free agent.

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Speaker 5: Well, you look at Seattle and they just lost a.

633
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Speaker 4: Hurt but it was a Seattle right.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you look at Seattle's team. That defense's best friend

635
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Speaker 7: is Kenneth Walker, his ability to run the ball, take

636
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Speaker 7: up the time of possession. And I think sometimes people

637
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Speaker 7: miss that formula in football when you have somebody like that.

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Speaker 5: It's not as pretty, it doesn't look.

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Speaker 7: But it wears games and Seattle and if Seattle, and

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Speaker 7: if Seattle wins a Super Bowl, it is going to

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Speaker 7: be because of that formula. It's not going to be

642
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Speaker 7: because they allow their quarterback to run it, to throw

643
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Speaker 7: it all over the yard. And if I'm New England,

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Speaker 7: that that's what I try and force.

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Speaker 6: And you have these type of running back Javonte will

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Speaker 6: be one of them, and you're talking about the other

647
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Speaker 6: guy from Seattle. It's it's when they make the move

648
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Speaker 6: the chains.

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Speaker 5: You know, we need this right now. We need this

650
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Speaker 5: third and three.

651
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Speaker 6: We need this third and two, or even you got

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Speaker 6: a second and two, second and three, We need that

653
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Speaker 6: right now so we can take the pressure off the

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Speaker 6: rest of our offense.

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Speaker 5: They do that a lot of Seattle man.

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Speaker 6: They don't need it to happen that often because the

657
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Speaker 6: defense is going to capitalize anyway.

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Speaker 5: They usually put them in a position to win.

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Speaker 3: You know, on the rookie running backs. Usually the sweet

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Speaker 3: spot on rookie running backs is that second to third round.

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Speaker 3: And in fact that there's great examples with Kenneth Walker

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Speaker 3: and Zach Charboney for Seattle. Both second round picks Henderson

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Speaker 3: Travion Henderson with New England, second round pick r. J.

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Speaker 3: Harvey with Denver. These are just the latter two are

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Speaker 3: rookies this year, second round pick and so and the

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Speaker 3: Cowboys don't have a second.

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Speaker 7: I'm just about say that sucks that you bring that.

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Speaker 5: That's horrible, But.

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Speaker 3: It's not totally uncommon that a fourth round.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, where did Detroit get their running backs?

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Speaker 3: They go, well, they got one in free agency, Montgomery

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Speaker 3: and the other one was like the third pick in

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Speaker 3: the draft.

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Speaker 7: A young man from the ram Yeah, young man from

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Speaker 7: the rounds Kyrie Williams.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that was the second round as well.

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Speaker 5: And Mike, I don't believe he was a first round

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Speaker 5: draft pick at all.

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Speaker 3: He was fifth round.

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Speaker 5: Wow. Wow, there's hope.

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Speaker 3: But but there's a caveat there's always a butt. His

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Speaker 3: rookie year. His rookie year as a fifth round draft pick,

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Speaker 3: he played in ten games, no starts, thirty five carries,

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Speaker 3: one hundred and thirty nine yards four point zero yards carry,

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Speaker 3: which is to the point of a lot of times

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Speaker 3: in free agency, you can get guys that are a

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Speaker 3: contribute right now more so than a third day draft pick.

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Speaker 3: That doesn't mean that guy's not going to be a player,

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Speaker 3: doesn't mean that Jayden Blue is not going to be

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Speaker 3: a player. But the rookie year, especially a young guy

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Speaker 3: coming out, and so there is also we saw in

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Speaker 3: that last game, Jayden showed that juice that you're you're

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Speaker 3: drafted them for.

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Speaker 7: The Rams kid, the Williams guy is his real deal theme.

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Speaker 7: He is man like him, tough inside runner. We got

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Speaker 7: can break it somewhere on the.

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Speaker 6: West Coast Williams from the Rams.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know what school he went.

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Speaker 3: He was a Notre Dame.

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Speaker 5: Go isn't he was? He Notre Dame. I mean the

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Speaker 5: West coast right.

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Speaker 3: Here just had him Notre Dame.

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Speaker 5: So there you go, all right, So.

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Speaker 4: To answer your question, they can't just stall out on offense.

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Speaker 5: Okay, they got to improve.

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Speaker 4: And Schottenheimer tell you that I got to do a

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Speaker 5: That's right.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So next up, our last segment of the week

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Speaker 4: I was just gonna ask you, guys, if anybody in

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Speaker 4: the Senior Bowl game impressed you if you watched it.

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Speaker 3: Well, I had my Texas Tech family in town, and

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Speaker 3: he did not play in the game. But they just

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Speaker 3: can't stop talking about this Jacob Rodriguez, their linebacker, and

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Speaker 3: they keep asking me, where's he going to get drafted?

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Speaker 3: Where's he going to get drafted? And it's going to

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Speaker 3: be very interesting to see. He was impressive in workouts

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Speaker 3: last week. So many guys don't play in the game anymore,

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Speaker 3: just like at the Shrine Bowl. They don't play in

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Speaker 3: the game because the practices are more important and the

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Speaker 3: agents say no, you don't know, need to play in

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Speaker 3: the game. So anyway, and I think none of the

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Speaker 3: tech guys played in the game, but there are several

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Speaker 3: of them that did well, which is why they had

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Speaker 3: such a good season. But Jacob Rodriguez the linebacker is somebody,

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Speaker 3: especially in pass coverage, very instinctive guys.

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Speaker 12: Big plays and yeah, and some of the video that

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Speaker 12: I saw of him in practices, he's the guy that

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Speaker 12: would stand out as a guy the Cowboys need to

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Speaker 12: be looking at.

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Speaker 3: But without a second or third round draft pick. If

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Speaker 3: he's going in that range, if he's a day two pick,

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Speaker 3: then unless they're making some trades to move around, he's

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Speaker 3: not going to be a Dallas Cowboy.

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Speaker 4: And a lot of times the Senior Bowl, the majority

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Speaker 4: of them are Day two fixed because the guys that

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Speaker 4: would go in the first round, the majority aren't working

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Speaker 4: out for not for free.

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Speaker 3: Now the edge rusher and there's a defensive tackle from

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Speaker 3: Tech that were impressive and the defensive end. Bailey is

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Speaker 3: for sure a first round pick.

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Speaker 6: When they had the practices here East West, East West. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: my nephew was playing at halftime those little kids round

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Speaker 6: in the future, he's gonna be ready. He was out

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Speaker 6: there like twelve years old. He lost the guy man,

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Speaker 6: he got a touchdown. It was pretty cool.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Video uh I hosted on social media.

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Speaker 6: It is already, it has already been posted.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 6: He moster the guys. He's very talented. Crosson we call

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Speaker 6: him c Jack Crosson May.

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Speaker 3: Where's he gonna go to high school? A little em

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Speaker 3: anyway we can get him over to South lank Uh.

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Speaker 5: Don't you ever talk about Jason to ever got him

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Speaker 5: caught him red handed? Right. All you have to hear

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Speaker 5: was boss somebody. It's right up.

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Speaker 7: So as we're keeping his singer bowl, what do you

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Speaker 7: what do you guys opinion about Garret Smyer from you know,

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Speaker 7: obviously coaching Myer's kid.

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Speaker 4: I'll tell you what, he's polished. He improved his draft

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Speaker 4: stock in that game. Okay, that was that was bad

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Speaker 4: weather they were thrown in, but I remember how many

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Speaker 4: times they showed the flag he was playing heard at

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Speaker 4: l s U his last year and he played through.

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Speaker 5: Is that what happened? It was? And he was not

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Speaker 5: that guy. No, he was was not that guy.

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Speaker 4: My friends that are l s U fans just hated them, right,

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Speaker 4: And I called on Saturday and said, eus Meyer's throwing

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Speaker 4: touchdown passes a senior bill, you better turn it on.

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Speaker 4: He made his decision making wasn't great at LSU that

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Speaker 4: last year. Throwing in the coverage, yes, yeah, way too much.

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Speaker 4: And you saw that up close and personal at your quarterback, right,

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Speaker 4: so yeah, he'll Unfortunately.

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Speaker 3: You know what he might be.

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Speaker 6: I thought of you when I heard that Day two.

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Speaker 4: Day three quarterback. That may be developmental at this point.

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Speaker 4: I don't think he's a walking starter by anyways. Matter

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Speaker 4: of fact, his brother might be better, he admits.

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Speaker 3: I heard an interview with nuss Meyer and he was

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Speaker 3: talking about his brother. His brother's a lefty like his dad. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and he's big, strapping, six five guy.

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Speaker 4: Who I ran into the other day.

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Speaker 5: Doug. No, yep.

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Speaker 3: But I would not be surprised if somebody took a

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Speaker 3: liking to nus Meyer to the point he could be

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Speaker 3: like the Jackson Dart of this draft, where he sneaks

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Speaker 3: into the first round really because of and that's without

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Speaker 3: even looking at all the stuff.

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Speaker 5: But I've just.

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Speaker 3: Always been impressed with just how his whole makeup, and

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Speaker 3: I think he's going to play. Whether he's a starter

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Speaker 3: or not, He's going to be in the NFL for

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Speaker 3: years and we'll see what happens.

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Speaker 7: As heavily involved as we are with Texas high school football.

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Speaker 7: You remember him at Marcus always had location on his ball,

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Speaker 7: touch things like that.

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Speaker 5: But I agree with you, Mick.

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Speaker 7: He had to have been hurt just based off of

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Speaker 7: his performance with the LSU, and I don't want that

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Speaker 7: to be an out because I just feel like I

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Speaker 7: feel like he has all the mental intangibles as a quarterback.

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Speaker 7: And I have an affinity for coaches kids, man, because

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Speaker 7: I just feel like guys that come in at are

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Speaker 7: coaches kids. They already know how to prepare and what

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Speaker 7: to expect when they get to that level, and they

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Speaker 7: have a certain amount of maturity about them.

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Speaker 5: So that's why I like, you know, nuss.

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Speaker 3: A question, there's gonna be there's gonna be offensive coordinators,

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Speaker 3: head coaches slash quarterback coaches who are going to fall

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Speaker 3: in love with him. There's already one in the league

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Speaker 3: who is in love with him. That would be his dad.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I look at his dimensions, right, his height, arm strength,

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Speaker 4: things like that.

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Speaker 5: You're not tough. That would be to coach your own

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Speaker 5: kid on the NFL level.

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Speaker 3: In the NFL, they would be enough in high school.

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Speaker 6: Or I didn't think he had any any merrit but

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Speaker 6: they were teasing about bringing Dion to Cleveland.

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Speaker 5: You're not tough.

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Speaker 6: That would have been to coach your son. I mean

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Speaker 6: you you would say it's a privilege.

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Speaker 5: And all of that, but especially.

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Speaker 3: It's one thing if you're the head coach and you're

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Speaker 3: not his positioning coaching, to another if this is the

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Speaker 3: guy that is coaching the every day.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 7: So you say New Orleans passes up on the opportunity

884
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:56,439
Speaker 7: either because his dad's there, I mean, grow a pair,

885
00:46:56,560 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 7: you know, you gotta. Yeah, you better make it happen

886
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 7: with If you're the Saints. Yeah, so if.

887
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:09,319
Speaker 3: You're a Douglas Schmeyer, Okay, and it's I don't even

888
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 3: know where the Saints packed, but they're on the clock

889
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:14,919
Speaker 3: and his son is there. You know what their their

890
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:21,359
Speaker 3: quarterback situation. Tyler Shuck showed some things whatever I mean

891
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 3: I'm talking first round or second round.

892
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:28,399
Speaker 7: Now you've got controversy brewing, and now that's a problem. Yeah,

893
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:30,880
Speaker 7: I think they decided to go with Shuck end of

894
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,879
Speaker 7: the season. That's just my philosophy. I mean, you're at

895
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 7: number eight, number eight in the first round, so let's

896
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:38,919
Speaker 7: say Soath that gonna do that?

897
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 3: Okay? Yeah that was the second round pick?

898
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 5: Was he the second round again?

899
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 7: I just you know, I think it's New Orleans is

900
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,319
Speaker 7: in the situation where they better. They better try and

901
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 7: improve every part of their team, especially at the quarterback position,

902
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 7: running backs and dresses.

903
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 6: So New Orleans can do anything they want. It's it's

904
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 6: always going to be running back. It's always gonna be

905
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:05,319
Speaker 6: something great. That's what New Order is all about. It's

906
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 6: about entertainment, some type of culture they have there.

907
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 5: Come on, that's how they are. They said all that.

908
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:14,839
Speaker 3: All these Super Bowl teams. There's one cowboy player who

909
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 3: this time last year was a member of the New

910
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 3: England Patriots, Joe Milton. You look at the way when

911
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:27,800
Speaker 3: Vrabel went in there and started hatch it started figuring

912
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 3: out who he wanted on his football team. One of

913
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 3: the earliest decisions with your hands.

914
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:35,919
Speaker 5: With your hands.

915
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:40,760
Speaker 3: One of the one of the earliest decisions the Patriots made,

916
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:44,280
Speaker 3: and it was early April is when the trade occurred.

917
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 3: They traded Joe Milton to the Cowboys, got a fifth

918
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 3: rounder in return. Seventh rounder went the Cowboys way, but

919
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:57,799
Speaker 3: I looked up. Okay, So what did the Patriots get

920
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 3: out of that draft trading Joe Million? And then they

921
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 3: went ahead and they signed Joshua Dobbs to be the

922
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:03,360
Speaker 3: backup quarterback.

923
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:07,760
Speaker 5: Smartest guy in the league right, literally? Yeah?

924
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:11,280
Speaker 3: So what they got in return? They turned that fifth

925
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 3: round pick, they traded down a couple of times. They

926
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:18,879
Speaker 3: got their place kicker Andres Borogalis, their long snapper, and

927
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 3: a special teams guy in the sixth and seventh round

928
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 3: of the draft for Joe Milton. And those three guys

929
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 3: are now playing in the Super Bowl. Two of them

930
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 3: are primary special teams guys, long snapper and the kicker

931
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:31,360
Speaker 3: for them.

932
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 4: So the Cowboys got an interview. What an interview for

933
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 4: the backup quarterback position?

934
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 5: Oh yeah?

935
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:45,320
Speaker 4: Are you? Are you like solid that he's the backup quarterback?

936
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 4: Speaking of questions about the offense, I don't think so.

937
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 5: I don't think so.

938
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 4: I'm skeptical yeah, I don't think so.

939
00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:00,319
Speaker 6: I mean flashes we've seen, but yeah, I don't.

940
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 5: I don't think so.

941
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 7: Well, Rabel was pretty decisive on his movie. He came in,

942
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 7: he didn't waste any time. He's like, look, this is

943
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 7: what who these are the guys that can help us win,

944
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:12,800
Speaker 7: and these are the guys that can't. And I appreciate

945
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 7: him for doing that, and I appreciate the organization from

946
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 7: moving off of the guy that they previously hired after

947
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 7: one year and saying, look, this is our guy. We're

948
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 7: gonna hire him, We're gonna bring him in, and we're

949
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 7: gonna make moves right away.

950
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 5: They didn't take a bunch of time.

951
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 3: And Rabel had a history of Joshua Dobbs. He knew

952
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 3: that Joshua Dobbs would be the perfect backup quarterback for

953
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:35,439
Speaker 3: Drake May there as far as being ready if May

954
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 3: ever got hurt whatever. Nothing against Joe Milton, but he

955
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 3: knew what he was getting in Dobbs, and then they

956
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 3: were able to turn that into players that are now

957
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:46,839
Speaker 3: playing in the super Bowl.

958
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:49,360
Speaker 4: On Sunday, speaking of the super Bowl, since we're not

959
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 4: going to talk again until it's over with, can I

960
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 4: be as butt hurt about Darren Woodson not getting into

961
00:50:57,040 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 4: the Pro Bowl Pro Football Hall of Fame. Are you

962
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 4: breaking news as the whole country is about Bill Belichick?

963
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 3: Are you are you breaking news?

964
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:09,319
Speaker 4: No, I'm just saying if he doesn't, if he can,

965
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:10,400
Speaker 4: I make a stink.

966
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:14,840
Speaker 6: Oh okay, wait, don't, don't, don't do Thatson and you

967
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:16,319
Speaker 6: already mad you can't.

968
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 5: Let's be optimistic.

969
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 3: So that's Thursday night when we learned, yes, goes in

970
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 3: the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

971
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:26,320
Speaker 5: Already.

972
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 4: Oh, it's all yeah, And that's the reason why it

973
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 4: came out.

974
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 3: They voted like two and a half weeks ago.

975
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 4: Somebody if if they ever find out will be You

976
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 4: need to.

977
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 5: Tell me what he's up there right now? He knows

978
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 5: if he's a Hall of Fame or not.

979
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yes, And Jason Whitten, we got.

980
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 5: A corner him. Man, Come on, so let's go to

981
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:52,359
Speaker 5: his office right now. Yes, you need to wait, Jason already. Yes,

982
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 5: we alreadyn't know who's there.

983
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 3: They they've they changed it up a few years ago,

984
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 3: and it's through COVID because they had to do online

985
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 3: voting or whatever.

986
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:07,319
Speaker 4: You already know yours was different. They knocked on the

987
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 4: door the people are in town on the day of,

988
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:14,279
Speaker 4: but they now they record the knock on the door

989
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:15,319
Speaker 4: I had.

990
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:17,360
Speaker 3: That's what I was talking about last week when I

991
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 3: got ridiculed for saying something about Jimmy Johnson going up to.

992
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 4: Like when who was the last cowboy?

993
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 6: So you're telling me, you guys don't already talk about

994
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 6: if they're in or not.

995
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 4: No, we don't know.

996
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 5: Yes, no, somebody knows.

997
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 3: People know and the people but even the people on

998
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 3: the committee haven't been told. Right now, the people who

999
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 3: the people the finalists who did not get in, have

1000
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:50,799
Speaker 3: been told they didn't get in, that they didn't get in.

1001
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 6: So so wait, you you're saying, whoever that person might be,

1002
00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 6: they already know.

1003
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 3: So if you're Bill Belichick, okay, and you know you're

1004
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 3: eventually going in as opposed to Darren Woodson, you know

1005
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 3: all right, and you're told that you didn't make the

1006
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:11,840
Speaker 3: cut this time, are you gonna tell anybody that you

1007
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 3: didn't make it?

1008
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:15,319
Speaker 5: No?

1009
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 3: I would if I was Bill Belichick.

1010
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 5: I would.

1011
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 6: I would be I'd be pissed.

1012
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 3: And so that's how it got out. Bill told Bill Dimes,

1013
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 3: and I don't blame.

1014
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:33,360
Speaker 4: Are you. Let's get it over with you guys pissed

1015
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 4: off about it as everybody else's that he didn't get it.

1016
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:37,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, going to get in.

1017
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 6: I am I truly you know, yeah, you know he

1018
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 6: was the reason that I that I was stuck around

1019
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:47,879
Speaker 6: in the league of a few more that.

1020
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:50,880
Speaker 4: Should get him in the if I had a vote

1021
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 4: for it.

1022
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:53,799
Speaker 3: And by the way, Bill Belichick is on record saying

1023
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 3: he can't believe that every's and Walls is.

1024
00:53:55,560 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 5: Right right, and see, so you know, forget Everson Walls and.

1025
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 3: You need to get him, you need to get him

1026
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:05,240
Speaker 3: into he's on the committee to vote.

1027
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 6: I'm just wondering that they're gonna have that same energy

1028
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 6: not putting him in as they have that they may

1029
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:13,359
Speaker 6: have when it comes to voting Tom Brady. I mean,

1030
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:15,720
Speaker 6: well you're gonna do wait for him. You know you're

1031
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 6: talking about the flake gate. I mean, come on, nobody's

1032
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:21,399
Speaker 6: gonna worry about that. But so, why are you worried

1033
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 6: about whatever's going on with whatever the hell is going on?

1034
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 6: Why they are upset with Belichick. I don't know what's

1035
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 6: going on with that, But why wouldn't you use that

1036
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 6: same energy when you start talking about Tom Brady?

1037
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 4: Is it as much that as people assuming he's gonna

1038
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 4: get in, and there's four other guys in that five

1039
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:43,280
Speaker 4: man bill that get three votes.

1040
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:46,360
Speaker 3: And actually with the Kansas City writer said that that

1041
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 3: was why he right but did not vote for Belichick

1042
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 3: because he wanted to give a chance to Ken Anderson and.

1043
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:56,880
Speaker 6: That a bunch of beers. That's just a bunch of bes.

1044
00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:01,400
Speaker 6: You vote, you just vot who needs, who deserves to

1045
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 6: be in all this. You know, this this spy gating

1046
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:07,799
Speaker 6: and all this crap you got going on, not just

1047
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 6: on the field, I'm talking about in regards to the

1048
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 6: draft to sell the picking for the Hall of Fame.

1049
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 6: I just I just think it's so silly that we

1050
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 6: have these schemes going on.

1051
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 3: Like you got five, but three of them can get.

1052
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 6: In and then now and you're missing the obvious.

1053
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:26,319
Speaker 4: You're missing the obvious doing what if Craft gets it?

1054
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 6: Everybody said Craft is the reason he's not in this.

1055
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 4: They weren't going to put two from New England, and

1056
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 4: why not, I know, why not that happened, but it's

1057
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 4: happened all the time.

1058
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 6: You're right, and it's not fair. It's just not fair

1059
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:47,400
Speaker 6: into any of those guys.

1060
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 4: So now, like, could somebody say, well, I voted for witting,

1061
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 4: so I'm not voting.

1062
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:53,839
Speaker 6: For for whats that's it.

1063
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 4: Or the other way around, right, and then that's that's

1064
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:57,759
Speaker 4: that is how I can't have.

1065
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:01,319
Speaker 5: That's exactly how it goes, is.

1066
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 3: What he already like this. This is his second to

1067
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 3: last year to be eligible.

1068
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 4: For his last year he played was two thousand and three.

1069
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 3: So there's so five years later he would have been eligible.

1070
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 4: So he had been in two.

1071
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 3: Thousand and eight, so then twenty seven. This year is

1072
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:24,279
Speaker 3: twenty six, and so next year would be he goes

1073
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:26,839
Speaker 3: into your senior.

1074
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 4: And boy, you're getting lost in you can.

1075
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:35,799
Speaker 5: It's fogging right, what's up?

1076
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 7: Man?

1077
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 4: I'm just saying, well, even when you're a senior. So

1078
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:42,399
Speaker 4: the three guys that are seniors now Elsie Green, would

1079
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:46,360
Speaker 4: Ken Anderson and Roger Craig, Now, what are the chances

1080
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:50,760
Speaker 4: that they come back as the senior nomination put other seniors?

1081
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 3: Like everything walls up next?

1082
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:52,279
Speaker 5: Right?

1083
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:54,399
Speaker 3: They should?

1084
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:58,839
Speaker 4: And so when some people it's process of elimination more

1085
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:01,359
Speaker 4: than who deserves Sure he deserves to be and he

1086
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 4: will be right, but does it have to be?

1087
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 11: Now?

1088
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:06,279
Speaker 4: How many times did Michael Irvin have to wait?

1089
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 6: Think about that too. Yeah, No, waited so long he

1090
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:11,800
Speaker 6: decided not to even attend.

1091
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 4: Well, so did the The linebacker with the Giants played.

1092
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 6: With Una, I've ben't played Harry Carson Harry Cross and

1093
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 6: said just take my name off.

1094
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, And then they got in and it was.

1095
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 6: Like, now, is it true that Belichick is threatening all

1096
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 6: these things to pull away his stuff out of the

1097
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 6: Hall of Fame?

1098
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 4: And oh I heard that.

1099
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:30,959
Speaker 5: Yeah, they got lot of stuff.

1100
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 4: I mean, he can go in next year, yeah, but

1101
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 4: that ain't this.

1102
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 3: Then he takes away votes from Everson, who's gona be

1103
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 3: on the ballot next year. And that's how it goes, right,

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Speaker 3: everybody as soon as possibly got.

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Speaker 6: So many dominoes falling. Now it's just getting piled up

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Speaker 6: over here, all right.

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Speaker 4: I just think it'll be hilarious if Kraft gets in

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Speaker 4: and he does it.

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Speaker 6: I believe it is, and I believe it will happen.

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Speaker 4: And I'll guarantee you. Somebody thought ah Craft's like eighty seven,

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Speaker 4: eighty eight, you know, let's get him in. Elichick's just

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Speaker 4: seventy three.

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Speaker 6: So nothing to do with his young girlfriend, has nothing

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Speaker 6: to do with that.

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Speaker 5: He keeping him young, keeping it young.

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Speaker 6: It'll be around I must say, I think that some

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Speaker 6: reporters are just extremely petty on the whole.

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Speaker 5: I think that they this.

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Speaker 6: Gives him a little bit of a gotcha in regards

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Speaker 6: to the press conferences that he had that were bombs

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Speaker 6: all the time, the fact that he didn't want to

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Speaker 6: ask the questions all the time. They you know, once

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Speaker 6: it happened to everybody like well, see he shouldn't have

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Speaker 6: done this, or see he shouldn't have done that, which

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Speaker 6: is a bunch of crap and it's childish.

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Speaker 4: I'll give you. I'll give you the best answer I

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Speaker 4: heard him give at a press conference at the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: Somebody in the big Scrum thing when he had to

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Speaker 4: do one of his interviews, somebody asked him like an

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Speaker 4: inane question, right, just it was like, why are you

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Speaker 4: asking that question?

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Speaker 5: He gets that a lot.

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Speaker 4: Right, And Belichick goes, so, do you guys have this

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00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 4: book of questions that you just have to ask even

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Speaker 4: if they're not pertinent, but you gotta ask them. And

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Speaker 4: I started laughing to myself because he.

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Speaker 5: Was exactly right right, they gotta get it there.

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Speaker 4: And the first time I ever talked to him eighty

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Speaker 4: sixth season, I think it was he's the defensive coordinator

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Speaker 4: at the Giants. They sent me there to do stories

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Speaker 4: before the Cowboys played them. I didn't know any better.

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Speaker 4: He was in the locker room, and I went up

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Speaker 4: and asked him a.

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Speaker 3: Question with his short coaching shorts on.

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00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 4: Yeah right, and he answered it right, And Sobey came

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00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 4: up to me. Go Belichick answered your question. I go, why,

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00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 4: He goes, Well, he hadn't talked to anybody. I said, well,

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 5: I got something. He didn't recognize it.

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00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 4: Now, he had no idea who I was. But I

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Speaker 4: got an answer, all right.

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Speaker 3: And so who's winning the Super Bowl?

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Speaker 5: Not that I can, but yeah, see Hawk.

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Speaker 3: You got Seahawks.

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Speaker 7: Because my brother in law is a New England Patriots fan,

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Speaker 7: I'm going for the Seahawks like that.

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Speaker 5: That's good.

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01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:12,440
Speaker 4: Seahawks for DeMarcus Lawrence.

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Speaker 3: And Jackson Smith and Jigba from right here in the Metroplex.

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Speaker 3: Oh good, all right, all right, we got it, all right,

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Speaker 3: very good.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: My pick to click is JSN, Jackson Smith and Jigbo.

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Speaker 3: So there you go.

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Speaker 5: All right.

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Speaker 3: That does it for mix shots, and we'll shout at

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Speaker 3: you again next Monday at eleven am.

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Speaker 5: Go Cowboys, This

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