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Speaker 1: first guest. If you love great feature stories about NFL

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Speaker 1: players and coaches, there's nobody out there doing better ones

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Speaker 1: than Tyler Dunne. He's written for newspapers and Bleacher Report

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Speaker 1: in the past, but now he has his own website,

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Speaker 1: golongtd dot com. There's plenty of free content there, including

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Speaker 1: a story this week about one of the Bengals starting cornerbacks. Tyler.

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Speaker 1: You posted a great profile on Eli Apple on Monday morning.

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Speaker 1: The title was Eli Apple sends peace and love to

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Speaker 1: his haters. Did you come to Sense Daddy specifically intending

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Speaker 1: happen when you got here? Good question, because it just

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Speaker 1: kind of happened, honestly, great access. I got to start there.

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Speaker 1: The Cincinnati Bengals. They they're great to us media folks

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Speaker 1: You know, after that Kansas City game when he was

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Speaker 1: prime peak. Eli Apple figured, you know, what, a lot

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Speaker 1: has happened since we talked, So let's touch base and

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Speaker 1: you know, kind of a mental check. You know, we

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Speaker 1: doing it. He's doing great. He's doing great. He certainly

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Speaker 1: does not back away from, as you put it in

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Speaker 1: being this Twitter villain that other NFL players have no

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Speaker 1: And I mean you've covered this game longer than me,

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Speaker 1: these He didn't really do anything different than what we've

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Speaker 1: It's part of the reason they love him. You know.

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Speaker 1: guys that other teams gave up on. They play with

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Speaker 1: But I think Eli Apple took it in stride. You know,

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Speaker 1: golongtd dot com. I want to get to some more

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Speaker 1: the other profiles that you've written about Bengals players in

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Speaker 1: this is November fifth of last year. The Bengals have

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Speaker 1: just had this idea here because I really love this

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Speaker 1: If anybody does subscribe out there, just hit me up

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Speaker 1: we'll send you a Golong shirt. So I got a

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Speaker 1: few of those I still got. I just saw it downstairs.

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Speaker 1: We got a whole box of shirts. So I want

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Speaker 1: to try to build up a little bit of a

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Speaker 1: Bengals following because it's just a fun ass hell team

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Speaker 1: and it's a cool logo. It'll be a good shirt.

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Speaker 1: Oh thanks, Yeah, it's my buddy as an artist here

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Speaker 1: in Western New York and he does all my artwork

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Speaker 1: and he's incredible. But but yeah, i'd even answer your question.

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Speaker 1: I guess a lot of long form journalism features profiles.

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Speaker 1: Q and A's podcast just really try to kind of

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Speaker 1: go beyond just the clicky stuff on social media and

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Speaker 1: sit down and really get to know these players. So

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Speaker 1: I'm just you know, I'm incredibly thankful that these guys

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Speaker 1: lives and dig a little deeper, because it definitely takes

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Speaker 1: two to tango. Well, Bengals fans can find the Eli

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Speaker 1: Apple story, they can find the Joe Burrow most dangerous

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Speaker 1: man in football. You wrote about Tyler Boyd. As I

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Speaker 1: mentioned last November. I think there was a Mike Kilton

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Speaker 1: profile before the Super Bowl. So there's a ton of

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Speaker 1: great Bengal stuff there right now. Again, go LONGTD dot com.

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Speaker 1: Tyler Dunn has been my guest again. You can follow

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Speaker 1: to whatever that thing is you're gonna write about the Bengals.

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Speaker 1: Another great Bengal story coming in next month. And I

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Speaker 1: really appreciate you time today, Thank you, Thank you, Dan,

463
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Speaker 1: loved it. We should do it again, and hey, you're

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Speaker 1: always welcome on our podcast. We'll do a little home

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Speaker 1: and home. Now. Let's transition to Friday's preseason opener against

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Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals. Joe Burrow obviously won't play and that

467
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Speaker 1: probably would have been the case even if he hadn't

468
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Speaker 1: had appendicitis. So the Bengals starting quarterback will be Joe's

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Speaker 1: back up for the past two years, Brandon Allen. We've

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Speaker 1: seen him quite a bit. Brandon started six games for

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Speaker 1: the Bengals over the last two seasons, but we haven't

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Speaker 1: seen the next quarterback who will get into the game.

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Speaker 1: Jake Browning. Jake is a former University of Washington star

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Speaker 1: who once finished sixth in the Heisman Trophy vote. You're

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Speaker 1: spending two years on the Minnesota Vikings practice squad. He

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Speaker 1: was cut after the preseason last year and joined the

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Speaker 1: Bengals practice squad. His NFL playing experience consists of five

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Speaker 1: preseason games over the course of three years. Jakie joined

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Speaker 1: the team after the preseason last year. How eager are

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Speaker 1: you to play in a game again? And how important

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Speaker 1: our preseason games for somebody in your role? Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean for me, I've been on peace squads for a

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Speaker 1: couple of years now, and you know, I haven't played

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Speaker 1: a ton of the preseason, didn't play a ton of

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Speaker 1: rookie year, didn't have in my COVID year, and then

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Speaker 1: played a little bit last year. So I think anytime

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Speaker 1: you put as much time into something that have you

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Speaker 1: just want to play and be able to put it

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Speaker 1: on tape and and let all the hard work hopefully

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Speaker 1: show in the game and in a setting that you

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Speaker 1: know everybody can see. So yeah, I'm excited to play

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Speaker 1: in this offense. You know, I was able to watch

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Speaker 1: Joe all of last year and watch Brandon and you know,

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Speaker 1: kind of learned from them and see how explosive this

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Speaker 1: offense can be. And so I'm excited to be able

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Speaker 1: to actually line up and put some pads on, actually

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Speaker 1: play real football in this offense. So excited as you

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Speaker 1: know that you did get some time with the Vikings

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Speaker 1: in the preseason last year. Did you have a preseason highlight?

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Speaker 1: Was there a moment that was, you know, particularly enjoyable

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Speaker 1: for you? Uh? Not particularly. I mean I did get cut,

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Speaker 1: so I didn't go like, uh, probably as good as

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Speaker 1: I would have hoped. So, you know, I think anytime

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Speaker 1: you have a preseason where I kind of wish you

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Speaker 1: would have played a little bit better or kind of

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Speaker 1: saw some things and learned some different things. Uh, you're

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Speaker 1: kind of chumping out the bit to see it back

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Speaker 1: out there and give it another swing. So that's kind

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Speaker 1: of where I'm at. But now I didn't really have

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Speaker 1: like a highlight per se anything like that. It was

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Speaker 1: more definitely learned some some harder lessons and hopefully learn

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Speaker 1: from those and and uh, you know, do better this

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Speaker 1: training camp in this preseason. Jake Browning's our guest quarterback

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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow couldn't practice early in camp after his app

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Speaker 1: in deck. To me, that's meant a lot of reps

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Speaker 1: for you. How has that helped you? Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: I haven't taken it didn't take any reps in the offense,

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Speaker 1: you know, last year obviously because we're in the season,

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Speaker 1: but uh yeah, it's helped a lot. Be able to

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Speaker 1: get some reps in practice, work through some different things

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Speaker 1: on different plays, and hopefully that shows in the preseason.

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Speaker 1: You were on the practice squad last year, so you

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Speaker 1: were in the meeting rooms with Burrow. You obviously watched

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Speaker 1: the team's run to the Super Bowl. What stood out

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Speaker 1: about Joe? I mean, I think he, uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: obviously prepares and dolls and does all those things, but

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of quarterbacks do that. I think

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Speaker 1: he's got pretty unshakable confidence, and I think that showed

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Speaker 1: some of those big moments. You know, he's not afraid

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Speaker 1: to put the ball up there and let Jamar make

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Speaker 1: a play or let t make a play. And you know,

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Speaker 1: I think they always say like play within the moment,

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Speaker 1: stay in the moment, and I think he does a

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Speaker 1: pretty good job of that and plays confident. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: people listening to this remember you from your time at

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Speaker 1: Washington is the four years starting quarterback, but I want

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Speaker 1: to turn the clock back before that to your days

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Speaker 1: in Fulsome California. One of your offensive lineman was Jonah Williams.

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Speaker 1: Pretty remarkable coincidence. Did Jonah help you adjust and get

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Speaker 1: comfortable here in Cincinnati? Yeah, I had to try out here,

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Speaker 1: I think, if I remember correctly, it was on a Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: So I get him Monday and it was you know,

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Speaker 1: went to dinner with him. So it's kind of nice

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Speaker 1: to see a familiar face, you know, the first time

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Speaker 1: I got here. So yeah, anytime you got some high

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Speaker 1: school teammates. There's a couple of us playing in the

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Speaker 1: NFL now that we're on that team, and Jonah definitely

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Speaker 1: helped me a lot in high school, helped us throw

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Speaker 1: the ball a ton, So that was pretty nice when

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Speaker 1: he showed up. Yeah, I mean, I think anytime you

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Speaker 1: walk into a locker room and you're brand new, you know,

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Speaker 1: to see some familiar faces. I know him from high school.

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Speaker 1: I know Drew Sample from college. So just just to

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Speaker 1: know a couple of people, so you know, it's just

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Speaker 1: completely the brand new person is always kind of nice,

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Speaker 1: full familiarity. California's a big state. You set most of

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Speaker 1: the career passing records there, ninety one touchdown passes your

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Speaker 1: final year of high school. Did you guys ever run?

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Speaker 1: Did you have running plays? Uh? Yeah, I think we

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Speaker 1: pretty much knew the first half and then the second

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Speaker 1: half we'd run the whole time. But uh yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: like you said, I had Jonas and my left tackle

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Speaker 1: stot help a lot, had a really good coaching staff

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Speaker 1: with Troy Taylor and Chris Richardson who are now at

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Speaker 1: Sack State, probably Fresques, and uh, you know, I think

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Speaker 1: I think I was up the right place at the

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Speaker 1: right time. I obviously had some ability, but I think

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Speaker 1: anytime you're putting up some numbers like that, there's a

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Speaker 1: lot going on around you. That's that's pretty nice to have.

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Speaker 1: So left tackle a couple of really good receivers, really

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Speaker 1: good defense, really good old line, and a good system.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, fun memories, but uh, you know to hoping

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Speaker 1: to have a good preseason and and those are those

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Speaker 1: are kind of in the past, but cool things. Probably

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Speaker 1: when I'm done playing. We look forward to seeing you

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Speaker 1: against the Cardinals. Best of luck in the game throughout

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Speaker 1: the preseason. Thank you appreciate it. That's quarterback Jake Browning

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Speaker 1: after Brandon Allen and Jake Browning play. We could also

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Speaker 1: see former Loveland High School and Ball State quarterback Drew Plitt,

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Speaker 1: who joined the team at the start of training camp

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Speaker 1: following Joe Burrows appendack to me. The Bengals Booth podcast

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Speaker 1: time for my weekly training camp update with Dave lapham Lap.

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Speaker 1: There was a practice this week where the defense dominated,

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Speaker 1: the offense struggled, and the offensive line in particular struggled.

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Speaker 1: Did you have days like that? Does it happen to

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Speaker 1: everybody aside from Anthony Munio's at some point? Yeah, it does.

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Speaker 1: I mean I do think you know, even Anthony, as

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Speaker 1: great as he was, he'll tell you there are guys,

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Speaker 1: a guy that he had had to bring his best against.

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Speaker 1: And there's always somebody or something that occurs where you

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Speaker 1: don't have as good a day as you would hope.

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Speaker 1: Are antics paid in individually or collectively and most important collectively? UM?

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Speaker 1: And that that was the key. That was the key factor.

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Speaker 1: Like you said, there were you know, too many guys

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Speaker 1: didn't have a very good day. And when you combine

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Speaker 1: all that together, it's like we talked about before, it's

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Speaker 1: like making that fist. And when those five components aren't acting,

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Speaker 1: you know, like an automatic reflex when I'm working with

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Speaker 1: each other, it can be it can be a tough day.

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Speaker 1: And then what you do is you, you know, go

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Speaker 1: back to your techniques, go back to ground zero and

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Speaker 1: UM and start over again and put together a rebound day,

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Speaker 1: which is what they tried to do. And I thought

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Speaker 1: there were a lot better the following day. Should we

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Speaker 1: even really be evaluating these guys that closely until they

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Speaker 1: get the five that are going to play together for

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Speaker 1: the first time. Yeah, I think that's a valid point.

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Speaker 1: There's there's no no two ways about it. And when

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Speaker 1: you uh, you know, you've got now not only do

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Speaker 1: you not have eyes like Ac, but now Smith is down.

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Speaker 1: I mean, now you've got chemodenergy going out and playing

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Speaker 1: some tackle, showing the versatility position versatility you know that

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Speaker 1: just like with any injury, the trickle down effect. As

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Speaker 1: Devin Cochran taken Snapster, he may not have anticipated he

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Speaker 1: was going to be taken at the beginning of training camp,

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Speaker 1: but these are opportunities. I mean, that's why you have

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Speaker 1: training camp. That's why you bring in the number of

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Speaker 1: players you bring in. And when you bring the guy in,

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Speaker 1: you know, you hope you did a good enough job

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Speaker 1: scouting him and evaluating his talents that he belongs. And really,

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Speaker 1: i'd say, for the for the most part, there's you know,

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Speaker 1: very very high number do belong. There's no two ways

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Speaker 1: about it. But the rubber meets the road. Like you said,

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Speaker 1: when everybody is up playing together against another opponent, you

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Speaker 1: know somebody that doesn't wear the same jersey that you're wearing.

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Speaker 1: Because the offensive line has struggled in recent years, we

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Speaker 1: tend to evaluate a day like that as bad for

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Speaker 1: the offense as opposed to whoa great for the defense.

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Speaker 1: Trey Hendrickson is going to give a lot of people

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Speaker 1: headaches like he did a few days ago, no question.

639
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 1: I mean, he is an elite pass rusher. He's got

640
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 1: boundless energy, he's got endurance, he's got intelligence. It was

641
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 1: a couple of one on ones that I was watching

642
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 1: with him. It's it's like, all right, who's going to

643
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 1: be more patient than the other. Who's going to wait

644
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 1: before they commit their hands? And the tackle is doing

645
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 1: a pretty darn good job of being patient, waiting, waiting,

646
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 1: and then Trey made that initial move that you thought, okay,

647
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 1: well here it is. So then he commits and brings

648
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 1: the hand to counter it, and Trey just is athletic

649
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 1: enough to pull it back and give a counter move.

650
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 1: And it's like, son of a gun man, this guy's good.

651
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:58,959
Speaker 1: He's smart, he's athletic, he's got primary moves, he's got

652
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 1: secondary moves. Who he's a he's a load, you know,

653
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 1: and they had to end up chipping them already a

654
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: couple of times here in practice, you know. And then

655
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,479
Speaker 1: on the other side of things, Sam Hubbard has taken

656
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 1: advantage of that. So the h boys are doing a

657
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 1: bang up job. There's no question they're they're they're really

658
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:17,320
Speaker 1: good at the edge, and they've got other guys that

659
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 1: are showing themselves a little bit too. I mean, it's

660
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:23,439
Speaker 1: going to be very interesting to see once preseason games start.

661
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 1: I don't think we're going to see Henderson and Hubbard.

662
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 1: If we see him at all, it's going to be

663
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 1: very very little. So the battle to who's going to

664
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 1: make up the back end of that roster from the

665
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 1: edge rush standpoint is going to be very very interesting

666
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 1: to watch. We're talking after Sunday's practice. Former Bengals defensive

667
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,439
Speaker 1: coordinator and Vikings head coach Mike Zimmer was in attendance today.

668
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 1: You happen to be nearby when Mike Zimmer got Sam

669
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 1: Hubbard's attention to tell him how much he enjoys watching

670
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,840
Speaker 1: him play. Yeah, and Sam was, you know, kind of

671
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 1: swelled him up a little bit. And Sam was very appreciative,

672
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 1: and Zim doesn't throw those kind of compliments out, those

673
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: big bouquet compliments very very readily. You know. I mean,

674
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 1: he's he's a he's a guy that he's a man's man,

675
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 1: and he's a great football coach in every sense of

676
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 1: the word. But he does appreciate guys like Hendrickson and Hubbard.

677
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 1: He said, man, those are those two guys off the edge,

678
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: and now they give you everything they've got every snap.

679
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 1: Don't think I'm like absolutely coaching. I remember talking to

680
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 1: Mike Ziner about this many many times when he was

681
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator for the Bengals and said, you know, the

682
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,839
Speaker 1: good defenses you've had over the years, what's the common denominator?

683
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 1: He said, corners, edge rushers. When you have corners and

684
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 1: edge rushers, particularly in today's NFL, but he said, any

685
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: era of NFL that I was coaching in that was big.

686
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 1: But in today's era in the NFL, if you have

687
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 1: corners and edge rush guys, you get yourself ingredients to

688
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 1: have a heck of a defense. And I think the

689
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 1: Bengals are pretty good in that regard. Joe Burrow watch

690
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 1: continues today. He apparently picked up a football and people

691
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 1: noticed it, so that was, you know, jokingly big news.

692
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 1: But in all series, he stood and watched practice for

693
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: much of the day today instead of watching it from

694
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 1: the back of a cart. I don't want to pretend

695
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,800
Speaker 1: that this is walking on water, but it's another sign

696
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:14,479
Speaker 1: that he is gradually moving toward being able to practice again. Well,

697
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 1: I know that standing and watching practice is a lot

698
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 1: harder than sitting in a cart watching practice. We can

699
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 1: attest to that when you're on your feet for two

700
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 1: plus whatever it is hours. So I think he is advancing.

701
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 1: I do think that there's there's no question about it.

702
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 1: And when he was walking, it wasn't as gingerly, you know,

703
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 1: he had his normal gait back to him. So it

704
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,359
Speaker 1: tells me that everything's healing. And that pulling that you feel,

705
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 1: you know sometimes during that healing process, I think is subsiding.

706
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:46,479
Speaker 1: So those are all good signs, but I'm not sure.

707
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 1: I'm not sure when we're going to see him back

708
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 1: taking team snaps and that kind of thing. We may

709
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 1: see him throwing a football and doing other things and

710
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 1: gradually ramping up as such, but in terms of getting

711
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 1: in the huddle, calling a play, going to the line,

712
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 1: of scrimmage with his teammates and executing and checking off

713
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 1: and audibling and all the things that you have to

714
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 1: do and to mentally executing them to be able to

715
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 1: physically execute it. I wonder, I wonder when that's going

716
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 1: to be. And at this point there's no panic, no rush,

717
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 1: So I let him just advance to progress at the

718
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 1: rate that he's doing. I'm fine with that. The training camp,

719
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 1: we always look closely at the rookies, see who looks

720
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 1: like he might be able to contribute right off the bat.

721
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 1: Dax Hill clearly will be able to contribute from day one.

722
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,399
Speaker 1: I think of the rest of the class, the two

723
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 1: paths rushers have stood out the most to me, Zach

724
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 1: Carter and Jeffrey Gunter. I agree. I think I think

725
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 1: Zach Carter is going to make make a little bit

726
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 1: of noise inside. I mean, he seems to have that

727
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 1: natural feel. It's just it's funny. Some guys just have

728
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 1: a natural instinct to counter almost they predict the move

729
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 1: is going to happen almost before it happens. Conrad so

730
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 1: quickly and he's got that that kind of ability. Now

731
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 1: it hasn't been starting Lineman, but I've seen him in

732
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 1: matchups with guys that are trying to win backup positions

733
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 1: were they don't lay a glove on him. I mean

734
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 1: he's he's got the edge now making him miss totally.

735
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 1: So he has an explosive first step, there's there's he's

736
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:21,800
Speaker 1: going to get off as they say, there's no question

737
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 1: about it. And he's a big body guy too. I

738
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 1: mean he's, you know, pushing three hundred pounds. He'll be

739
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 1: able to to uh, you know, stop the run and

740
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 1: the three technique as well as put pressure on the quarterback.

741
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 1: But when you have a size quickness combination like that man,

742
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 1: he can be a disruptive force. You can have him

743
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 1: inverting the line of scrimmage in the running game and

744
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 1: the passing game like Ogan Joby did for him. So

745
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 1: at practiced today, Drew Sample is out there with a

746
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: pretty heavy leg brace on after hurting his knee. It

747
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 1: doesn't sound like anything too serious. He could be back

748
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 1: within a couple of weeks, but it does exacerbate a

749
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 1: position group where you've got a clear cut number one

750
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 1: receiving target and Hayden Hurst when healthy, you've got a

751
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 1: clear cut good blocker in Drew Sample, and then a

752
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 1: lot of other guys that are battling for the third

753
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 1: spot practice squad spots. That's a pretty unsettled position group

754
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 1: after those verse two. Yeah, it really is. And fortunately

755
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 1: Drew Sample. You know, it doesn't sound like his foot

756
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 1: was on the ground planted and he got hit and

757
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 1: it caved in that way that that would have been

758
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,800
Speaker 1: some extensive damage going over a pile. Maybe it was

759
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 1: off the ground and then you get kind of a

760
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 1: whiplash effect, you know, if somebody hits your leg and

761
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 1: you still have a strain of a ligament, but not

762
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 1: if it was planted and smashed and now you've got

763
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 1: a real problem. So he kind of dodged a bullet

764
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,280
Speaker 1: I think a little bit there. But in his absence,

765
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 1: if it's a couple of weeks, you know, you've got

766
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 1: other guys that are trying to, you know, jockey for position.

767
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: I think Will Box as a guy that probably is

768
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 1: the front runner, you know, to move up and to

769
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 1: get more snaps um, you know, after hayden Hurst, particularly

770
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 1: in this in this first football game, you're gonna see

771
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 1: tight ends that I'm not sure how much you're gonna

772
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 1: see hayden Hurst. You're gonna see the battle of the

773
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,799
Speaker 1: tight end starts to rage, and you know we're gonna

774
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 1: be looking at guys like Willcox, you Banks, rig guys

775
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 1: that are household names, you know, for Thaddius Moss. Uh

776
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be it's gonna be very interesting to see,

777
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 1: you know who who steps up. Scotty Washington is another

778
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,479
Speaker 1: one that's a you know, is a former wide receiver

779
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 1: that's bulking up showing to try to play the tight

780
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 1: end position. So you've got a real that's going to

781
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 1: be a very very interesting battle that goes on in

782
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 1: that that Arizona Cardinal preseason game. It's like their super Bowl.

783
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 1: I mean, they're fighting for their professional lives. So you

784
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 1: know a lot of people are like, yeah, you know

785
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 1: those games they don't mean anything. Means the hell of

786
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,760
Speaker 1: a lot to these guys. I mean, they're they're chocking

787
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 1: for position in a very significant way. And because they

788
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 1: know that it's not just these guys, it's the other

789
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,800
Speaker 1: teams around the National Football League maybe letting go of

790
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,879
Speaker 1: their number three tight end, potentially their number four tight

791
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 1: end who may have more NFL experience than these guys do.

792
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 1: So they need to show that, you know, they can

793
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,879
Speaker 1: fit this system and do well within it, because they're

794
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:25,359
Speaker 1: going to be other guys out there on the waiver

795
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 1: wire during the course of training camp that muddy the

796
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 1: waters competitively, competitively for these guys as well as well.

797
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 1: I don't know if any of the undrafted wide receivers

798
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 1: will make the fifty three man roster. They're pretty setted

799
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:41,320
Speaker 1: wide receiver, but those guys are battling for practice squad spots.

800
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 1: Certainly there's going to be a one or two of

801
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 1: those guys on the practice squad. Kwami Lasseter number eighteen

802
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 1: makes several catches every day. It seems he also looked

803
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: good in the OTAs. Kendrick Pryor number nineteen didn't stand

804
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 1: out to me at all in the OTAs, but in

805
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 1: the last several practices it seems like he's been coming on. Yeah,

806
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 1: I agree, I thought Laster. Laster kind of caught my eye.

807
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 1: Even in an ots You just see a guy with

808
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 1: his body mechanics and the way he runs and the

809
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 1: way he runs routes and sinks his hips and gets

810
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 1: in and out of those cuts and gets in and

811
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,399
Speaker 1: out of him sharply and doesn't round him and things

812
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 1: of that nature, and it's like, oh jeez, you know

813
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 1: that guy. That guy is a is a very precise

814
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 1: and very poisoned route runner. So you know you wanted

815
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 1: to see him when the pads came on, and he's

816
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 1: he's still responding, responding pretty well. And that's that's another

817
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 1: group that has you know, Trent Taylor is somebody that

818
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 1: you know people are trying to unseat, but they know

819
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 1: what he can do. The coaches have a handle on

820
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 1: what Trent Taylor can do, not only as a as

821
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 1: a receiver and block people and catch football, but as

822
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 1: a put returner. And and that's where the job is

823
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 1: going to be. I think one and lost who's going

824
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 1: to show themselves as a good return guy. Kawami Laster

825
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,800
Speaker 1: has that that ability as well. But you're right, I

826
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:59,320
Speaker 1: mean Prior has stepped up and made plays. He's he

827
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 1: showed him off. I think Stanley Morgan is a lock,

828
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 1: you know, to be on the roster. Sorenson has got

829
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 1: to you know, he's a dark dark horse. But the

830
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 1: thing is what happens is in training camp you've shown

831
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 1: you blung. Then all of a sudden in a preseason game,

832
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 1: somebody steps up and makes a player two and it's like, wow, boy,

833
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 1: when the light goes on, when the competition really starts,

834
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: Let's see if it happens again. And then if you

835
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 1: can string a couple or three together, three preseason games together,

836
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 1: that's how guys come out of nowhere and make NFL rosters.

837
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 1: So it has to start in the first preseason game, though,

838
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 1: And really the biggest thing is handling that pressure of all, right,

839
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 1: I know I have to make a play, but I

840
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 1: can't try to do too much, because when I try

841
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 1: to do too much, it's going to backfire and it'll

842
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 1: probably end up the other team will make a big

843
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 1: play because I'm trying too hard and I'm going to

844
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 1: do something that's going to lead a defensive back to

845
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:56,320
Speaker 1: make a play against me, and then all of a sudden,

846
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 1: there the whole thing blows up in my face. So

847
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 1: those those battles are always very interesting to watch as well.

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Speaker 1: But you know, Mike Thomas is a is a guy

849
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 1: that's a special team staple um, you know. And then

850
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:13,439
Speaker 1: the Big three is very big and looms very large.

851
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 1: They're not going anywhere. Eli Apple had a few days

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Speaker 1: earlier this week where he didn't take part in any

853
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 1: team period because of a minor injury. He was back

854
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 1: out there today with the first string. What do you

855
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 1: think of the camp that Eli Apple is having? Extremely competitive,

856
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 1: you know, and uh and I think, you know, probably

857
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:33,840
Speaker 1: some of the time coaches and general managers and ownership

858
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:35,879
Speaker 1: are like, don't take it too far, you know, don't

859
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 1: take anybody to the ground or um, you know, let's

860
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 1: let's not have any have any injury. But he is

861
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 1: stepping up to the challenge of taking taking on guys

862
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 1: like Chase and um and matching up well, you know,

863
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 1: and competing and everything's a contested, competitive scenario. And um,

864
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 1: I think that last year did wonders for that guy's confidence.

865
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 1: I mean, he is to me, he looks like not

866
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:07,479
Speaker 1: a different football player, but a much more confident football player.

867
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:10,720
Speaker 1: There's no question about that. I think he really feels

868
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 1: like he's part of this thing. He feels like he

869
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 1: was a big part of the success they had last

870
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 1: year and rightfully show so he should feel that way.

871
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 1: So I think they got themselves a guy that you

872
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 1: know is going to be a cornerback, like Mike Zimmer

873
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 1: talks about that can be a factor and you know,

874
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 1: allows the edge rush to even get there. It's almost

875
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 1: like the hand fitting glove. The edge rush sometimes will

876
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 1: hide a little you know, blemish that they have in

877
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 1: the secondary or vice versa. The secondary is smothering all

878
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 1: rights routes so much that the rush will have an

879
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:45,320
Speaker 1: extra half second to a second to get there, and

880
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 1: they get there and they finish it. So I think

881
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 1: he may be part of that equation. We are five

882
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:54,320
Speaker 1: days away from our first preseason broadcast. Do you know

883
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals third string, because we're gonna have to

884
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 1: run from it is it's going to be you know,

885
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 1: you know what's interesting. It's like, yeah, I'm gonna I'm

886
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 1: gonna learn it because, like I said earlier, to these guys,

887
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 1: this is huge. This is huge, and uh, you know,

888
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 1: I always, I always enjoy good football competition. So it's

889
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 1: not like it's going to be one team's number ones

890
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:22,800
Speaker 1: against another team's number threes and it's like, hey, you

891
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:25,320
Speaker 1: know this and this will be like a big boring

892
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 1: honor um will it? Will it be? I hope it's

893
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 1: a competitive contest. I hope there are I love good football.

894
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 1: I hope there are good football players made. And you know,

895
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 1: I'm going to respect the fact that these guys are

896
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 1: out there fighting tooth and nail to survive for another

897
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 1: week in an NFL training camp, and that's what it's

898
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 1: all about. It's going to be to them. It is

899
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:49,360
Speaker 1: going to be like go time and showtime. The worst

900
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 1: of those one hundred eighty players is a great football

901
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:57,280
Speaker 1: player just to be out there bingo. I mean, there's

902
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,839
Speaker 1: there's a lot of guys in the Canadian Football League,

903
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 1: the XFL, the USFL who wish they were in a

904
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 1: training camp right now competing for an NFL roster. And

905
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 1: that's the thing, like we talked about before, Practice reps

906
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 1: are all taped, you know, and it's going to have

907
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 1: all that tape, but there's nothing like game tape. And

908
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 1: these guys know that. So the more snaps are out there,

909
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 1: they know that the more opportunities they have to show

910
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 1: that they belong in the professional realm of football somewhere.

911
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 1: If it's not with Cincinnati or Arizona, is it with

912
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 1: another NFL team, is with another pro league that may

913
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 1: not be as the highest level that the NFL is. Obviously,

914
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 1: these guys are fighting for their professional football lives and

915
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 1: it's going to be interesting to watch them fight and

916
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:45,800
Speaker 1: scratch Friday's game starts at zeven thirty. Our pregame coverage

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00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 1: on the Bengals Radio Network begins at six pm, and

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Speaker 1: by the time you get up on Saturday morning, there

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Speaker 1: will be a new episode of this podcast waiting with

920
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 1: radio replays and postgame analysis. That's going to do it

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