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Speaker 1: hundreds of requests for second date updates every single day,

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Speaker 1: So when we're sorting through them trying to decide who

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Speaker 1: to get your email answered, for sure. Everybody loves cheese,

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, of course not. Oh no, what's your

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Speaker 1: everybody calls me Cheese. Oh my god. I feel like

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Speaker 1: What's her name? Her name's Leia, And um, well it's

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Speaker 1: guy named Cheese, Well his real name's Eyett. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: date update. All right, awesome, All right, here we go. Hello, Hi,

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Speaker 1: the whole thing was very weird. I don't know what's

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Speaker 1: I don't blame you. That's really sketchy. Yeah, it's really sketchy.

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Speaker 1: You were much more rational than I am. If the

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Speaker 1: that guy. I mean, like, what the hell, man, what's

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Speaker 1: I want nothing to do with it. I'm not going

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Speaker 1: to call him. I mean I told the police, like

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Speaker 1: what they're investigating. What are they investigating? I think that

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Speaker 1: the van was stolen I'm not sure, so I well,

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Speaker 1: not only is he hashtag van life, but he's hashtag

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Speaker 1: stolen van life. I mean, we definitely want to get

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Speaker 1: and he doesn't sound like that type of persons always

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Speaker 1: those though, Jeffrey, I know, but I guess, like, I mean,

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Speaker 1: what does that even mean? I don't know. You tell

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Speaker 1: you said. Yeah, Lea, Leya, hey, hey, Cheese, Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: I need to tell you what happened. Like you do

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Speaker 1: not have the whole story here. That is crazy. Okay,

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Speaker 1: hold on, Cheese, give her a second. Like she didn't

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Speaker 1: So you set this whole thing up on the phone too,

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Speaker 1: Like is this like a scale? No, No, not at all.

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Speaker 1: It's actually just a giant misunderstanding. Like I just was

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Speaker 1: wondering why you didn't call it back, So that's why

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Speaker 1: I called the radio, and like I wanted you to,

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Speaker 1: about the van is not what you think at all. Okay, Well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: So get to the point, cheese, what are you going on?

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Speaker 1: Are you a criminal or not? Well, here's what happened.

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Speaker 1: So I actually converted this van. This is a van

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Speaker 1: also like does some of this stuff. He actually helped

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Speaker 1: me out on this van, right, So he was on vacation,

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Speaker 1: so I was like, Okay, I'm just gonna go take

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Speaker 1: now that's working. So anyway, what did you steal the van? No?

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Speaker 1: I totally just borrowed this van. Is it was like

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Speaker 1: like he had no idea that I had taken it. Leia,

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Speaker 1: are you buying any of this? Does this feel right

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Speaker 1: to you? I mean, I guess that sort of makes sense.

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Speaker 1: But he lied to me about telling me you own

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Speaker 1: this van, saying it's yours and it wasn't. But it

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Speaker 1: was mine before, and I mean, it just wasn't mine

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Speaker 1: at the time of the day. And I'm sorry I

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Speaker 1: a lot to kind of say, because like, you know,

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Speaker 1: then so he had it. So it's like, you know,

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Speaker 1: right now. And you're explaining a lot here, Leia, what

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Speaker 1: are you thinking? Yeah, no, cheez, I got you, I

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Speaker 1: got you. It's a very complicated process that where you

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Speaker 1: borrowed your friend's Vanya. The whole thing is too much,

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Speaker 1: like just I don't believe of anything that you're saying.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is so much drama. We went on

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Speaker 1: one date and look at this conversation. It's ridiculous. Well

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Speaker 1: hold on, I mean, like Cheese, you would understand, like

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Speaker 1: out with, like after only hanging out once, that's a

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Speaker 1: big red flag. It's all the drama side, Like did

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Speaker 1: you have a good time with Cheese? Did you connect

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Speaker 1: with him? It doesn't matter. I barely remember the date.

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Speaker 1: As the result of all of this, I will say,

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Speaker 1: in his defense, he's not in jail, so obviously, like

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Speaker 1: because she didn't know his real name. Well, to be fair,

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Speaker 1: we don't know that he's not in jail. This call

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Speaker 1: could be collect so I mean he'd steal a van

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Speaker 1: for you. That's really nice to him, Like that's romantic.

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Speaker 1: Well look, Leah, I mean I don't want to send

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Speaker 1: for it. Thank you, but no, thank you. I was

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Speaker 1: very polite. I mean, Cheese, did you learn anything out

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Speaker 1: of this whole process? Yeah? I mean I would have

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Speaker 1: even really get a chance, you know, like, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: was thinking, maybe you'll learn not to take your buddy's

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Speaker 1: that one and Cheese learned nothing. Yeah. Yeah, but just

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Speaker 1: in case, I mean, if this happens again to me,

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Speaker 1: like it's cool about like right, you guys back again

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Speaker 1: and maybe you can let me out again. Yeah, sure,

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Speaker 1: We're going off the grid now by Cheese Moving ninety

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