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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Good Stuff. I'm Jacob Chick and I'm

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Speaker 1: joined by my co host and wife, Ashley Shick.

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Speaker 2: Jake is a third generation combat Marine and I'm a

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Speaker 2: gold Star granddaughter. We work together to serve military veterans,

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Speaker 2: first responders, frontline healthcare workers, and their families with mental

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Speaker 2: and emotional wellness through traditional and non traditional therapy. At

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Speaker 2: One Tribe Foundation.

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Speaker 1: We believe everyone has a story to tell, not only

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Speaker 1: about the peaks, but also the valleys they've been through

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Speaker 1: to get them to where they are today.

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Speaker 2: Each week, we invite a guest to tell us their story,

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Speaker 2: to share with us the lessons they've learned that shaped

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Speaker 2: who they are and what they're doing to pay it

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Speaker 2: forward and give back.

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Speaker 1: Our mission with this show is to dig deep into

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Speaker 1: our guest journey so that we can celebrate the hope

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Speaker 1: and inspiration their story.

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Speaker 2: Thrilled you're joining.

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Speaker 1: Us again, Welcome to the Good Stuff.

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Speaker 2: We are so excited about today's episode. Our friend Joshua

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Speaker 2: Ritchie is a mindset coach and motivational speaker. He's a

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Speaker 2: former professional football player and works with merging veterans and players.

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Speaker 2: It's an organization that focuses on bringing veterans and former

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Speaker 2: professional sports players together.

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Speaker 1: Joshua is here to tell his story of survival, how

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Speaker 1: he survived street violence as a child, how he survived

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Speaker 1: the shooting as a young man, how he survived the

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Speaker 1: death of his dream of making it in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: and how he survived the devastation of a severe gambling addiction.

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Speaker 2: And now he's here with us as a living, breathing

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Speaker 2: example of what it means to thrive.

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Speaker 1: This is truly my brother from another mother, and his

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Speaker 1: story is raw strap in It's about the get ball beat.

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Speaker 2: I am so excited to dive into this conversation. This

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Speaker 2: is one like we've never had here on the good stuff.

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Speaker 2: Joshua Richie, thank you so much for joining us.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for inviting me. I'm excited.

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Speaker 1: Hey, we're honored to have you.

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Speaker 3: This is going to be.

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Speaker 1: A great perspective food for people. Let's do it.

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Speaker 2: Tell us about where you came from and what your

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Speaker 2: childhood was like.

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Speaker 3: I was born and raised in Aerina, Oklahoma, little country

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Speaker 3: town about fifteen twenty miles west of Oklahoma City. And

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Speaker 3: my mom she was amazing, still is amazing to this day.

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Speaker 3: But six weeks before she had me. A month before

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Speaker 3: her vacation pay, she was fired due to racism, and

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Speaker 3: my mom didn't know what to do. She was struggling,

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Speaker 3: she became stressed in me and the womb. I received

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Speaker 3: that and my mom was severely stressed. Wasn't going to

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Speaker 3: was about to have a baby. Yep, So now she's stressed.

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Speaker 3: I'm stressed. So I developed asthma from that seizures. So

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Speaker 2: So you're here by the grace of God absolutely, So

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Speaker 2: tell us about your upbringing. What was it like growing

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Speaker 3: It was definitely a challenge. No father present at all. Ever,

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Speaker 3: So she would bring me out to the block. We

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Speaker 3: At this point, my mom was like, diah forms, you

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Speaker 3: And so my mom was like, that's it, it's over,

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Speaker 3: So that was a life that I lived. No father.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, horse playing, yeah, playing chicken.

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Speaker 3: Her drownder, same exact way, same thing, And so my

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Speaker 3: just think of, like, man, what is this guy gonna

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Speaker 2: Told of the first formative years of your life. You've

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Speaker 3: Yes, And at age nine, my sister had came into

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Speaker 3: We gotta go filled it up again. I threw it

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Speaker 3: we lost everything nine years old, all our stuff, animals.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna play hard. They knew that. Now when we

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Speaker 3: It's like, oh this broad daylight. I was always alert.

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Speaker 3: I guess it was a drilling rush that we wanted

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Speaker 3: He stayed and he sold drugs and we supposed to sold drugs,

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Speaker 3: We sold crack and we sold the wheed. We learned

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Speaker 3: I remember that, And that right there started it all.

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Speaker 3: No? I never did any drugs either. Never never did

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Speaker 3: But I used to roll my brother's blumps for him.

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Speaker 3: I never did any of those things. I haven't said

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Speaker 1: Years, Kay, you knew you were doing wrong right by

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Speaker 1: the drugs and all that, it's fast money. Why go

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Speaker 1: I'm doing wrong, but I could get really caught up

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Speaker 3: So my mom is she's a magician. She says, son,

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Speaker 3: do as I say, not as I do. And that

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Speaker 1: It brings a whole different perspectives of seeing is bleeding

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Speaker 1: absolutely so.

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Speaker 2: Then gambling. You mentioned rolling dice, shoot shooting dice, shooting ice.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I mean, shoot dice was definitely part of the culture.

436
00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:43,040
Speaker 3: It was something that we did. We started being fun.

437
00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:45,760
Speaker 3: At first. It was just a hobby. We could do it,

438
00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:48,679
Speaker 3: and I became real good at it. And when you

439
00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:50,520
Speaker 3: become real good at it, now people don't want to

440
00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:52,399
Speaker 3: They don't want to play you anymore. They don't want

441
00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:53,960
Speaker 3: to shoot you anymore. So it's like, okay, what do

442
00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,800
Speaker 3: you do? And it was this one particular guy we

443
00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,399
Speaker 3: should shoot dice life. He was like he sold a

444
00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:00,960
Speaker 3: lot of joy and he had a lot of money

445
00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,920
Speaker 3: all the time. And he would come and I would

446
00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,360
Speaker 3: break him in my mama's house. My mama would watch it.

447
00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:08,080
Speaker 3: I would break him. I would probably get, you know,

448
00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:09,919
Speaker 3: four or five thousand dollars from me. He had that

449
00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,000
Speaker 3: type of money all the time, and it was like,

450
00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:15,720
Speaker 3: whoa cool? Now it becomes fun. All the gambling it

451
00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:18,359
Speaker 3: starts to becomes fun. Then it become a like a habit,

452
00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,399
Speaker 3: and now the habit develops is like it's a job now,

453
00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:25,000
Speaker 3: and the job is like, okay, more and more and more.

454
00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:26,920
Speaker 3: I need that dope, I mean fixed, I got a habit.

455
00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:28,680
Speaker 3: I got it. I need more and more and more.

456
00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,960
Speaker 3: It's just like a drug adds an alcoholic. They need more.

457
00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:35,520
Speaker 3: And when you alert the nucleus combas it says, look

458
00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:37,960
Speaker 3: that tasted good, I need more of that, sending it

459
00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,040
Speaker 3: up to the prefund of cortex with the decisions gonna

460
00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:43,040
Speaker 3: be made, and there you go. It's more. And now

461
00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:46,480
Speaker 3: the casino starts to be involved. Now Las Vegas starts

462
00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,840
Speaker 3: to be involved, because we don't have craps in Oklahoma

463
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,040
Speaker 3: at that time. Now they do. I don't even do

464
00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:54,320
Speaker 3: it anymore. It could have been a good thing. Yeah,

465
00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:57,880
Speaker 3: I don't know, but yeah, so Las Vegas and crabs

466
00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:01,680
Speaker 3: and going to casino playing poker and learning that game.

467
00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:03,600
Speaker 3: It costs a lot of money to learn that because

468
00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,240
Speaker 3: nobody teaches you. You gotta gotta have a little balls

469
00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:06,680
Speaker 3: a little bit.

470
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:10,840
Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah, I've played lots of poker in Monday too.

471
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:14,080
Speaker 1: It's crazy how I have similarities.

472
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,360
Speaker 2: You'll have a lot of parallels.

473
00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:21,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, what would you say that the game being gave

474
00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:23,760
Speaker 1: you that you didn't otherwise have.

475
00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:29,240
Speaker 3: That's a powerful question, amazing question. I'm glad you asked

476
00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,200
Speaker 3: it so it can be broken down because because I

477
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:38,399
Speaker 3: thought about it all day. So, yeah, you said it

478
00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:40,119
Speaker 3: hit the nail on the on the head right there.

479
00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:41,680
Speaker 3: When you're talking about the brotherhood and loyal tea and

480
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:46,040
Speaker 3: commitment and dedication to each other, and you think about blood,

481
00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,800
Speaker 3: sweating tears together thinking about and you're talking about that

482
00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 3: none of us not having fathers and us just being

483
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,399
Speaker 3: who we are together as a brotherhood as a that

484
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:58,480
Speaker 3: foundation and setting that loyalty, commitment and dedication to one

485
00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:00,640
Speaker 3: another that we're going to do this for our brother

486
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:01,280
Speaker 3: no matter what.

487
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 2: How much of this lifestyle stuck with you as you

488
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,720
Speaker 2: went on to play sports.

489
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it was. It's always been there since I

490
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:12,920
Speaker 3: was younger, So just I mean being in the street

491
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:16,200
Speaker 3: and understanding those that lifestyle sports was just right there

492
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 3: with it. So my mom, it was like almost contradictory.

493
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 3: I didn't understand it then as a child, but I

494
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 3: get it now, and I tell I was like, you

495
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 3: were condradicting yourself, So you were teaching me streets. But

496
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,480
Speaker 3: then you forced me to play someone went to fall

497
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:33,320
Speaker 3: spring baseball to get me off the streets, Like like,

498
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:35,320
Speaker 3: when that comes, what is that? How does that work?

499
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:35,479
Speaker 1: Mom?

500
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 3: Around, I'm like, okay, cool. So yeah, so we laugh

501
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,159
Speaker 3: about that now, But that's what it was doing. I

502
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:45,600
Speaker 3: mean in sports, I became more aware and more focused

503
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,359
Speaker 3: and in baseball, but I got burned out because I

504
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,880
Speaker 3: played someone on a false spring. Yes, and my mom

505
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 3: was this coach a call and say it's just unavailable. Yes,

506
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 3: he is available, and I'm like, mam, I just played.

507
00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,359
Speaker 3: I'm done. I'm tired. I don't want to do that anymore.

508
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 3: Are you going he's coming to get you? You're going?

509
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:04,199
Speaker 3: Am I gonna tell my mom?

510
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:04,359
Speaker 1: No?

511
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:10,400
Speaker 3: Heg No. I could hit in the mouth, No way. So,

512
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 3: I mean my mom was pretty solid too. She wanted

513
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 3: those slouch and she was a street walker. So no

514
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:17,679
Speaker 3: way in the world I was gonna tell my mom

515
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 3: was yeah. And so that's what happened with me is sports.

516
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,120
Speaker 3: I became really I started to really be more focused,

517
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 3: but I didn't work because I was gifted, and that

518
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,400
Speaker 3: was a problem. I didn't have to work at it.

519
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 3: I was just gifted and I would go out and

520
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,439
Speaker 3: run routes here and there, and catch the football here

521
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,119
Speaker 3: and there and throw the baseball here and there. But

522
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,920
Speaker 3: I didn't work like I should have worked, and it

523
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,399
Speaker 3: damaged a lot of a lot of things. And I

524
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 3: didn't have any support. Again, I didn't have a father.

525
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 3: So my teammates they had dads and they had all that.

526
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,679
Speaker 3: But I didn't understand what it was doing to me

527
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:53,120
Speaker 3: until later because I was just suppressed it. I didn't

528
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:54,640
Speaker 3: have a father. I didn't care about that. I wasn't

529
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:56,239
Speaker 3: gonna talk about it. I wasn't gonna do any of that.

530
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 3: But I had my mom. I had my grandma, so

531
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 3: I had my aunts. That's all I needed. That's all

532
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,919
Speaker 3: I cared for. That's all I knew. That's what it

533
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 3: was going to do. I was recruited by Oklahoma State

534
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 3: in a ton of other Division Wants schools, but I

535
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,359
Speaker 3: didn't have any grades. My grades and I remember, I'm

536
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 3: especially a class. I'm saying grade to the twelfth grade,

537
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 3: and now my grades are terrible. I don't care for school.

538
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 3: Some teachers said I would never mount to anything. Some

539
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,880
Speaker 3: teachers said I'll be dead in prison. I'm like, WHOA,

540
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 3: But I also had teachers that loved me and nurtured

541
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 3: me and cared for me. They knew this guy was

542
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 3: going to be here one day, but I just had

543
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:31,639
Speaker 3: to get through the weeds first and discover who I

544
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 3: am today. So when opportunities came, and then now I

545
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 3: go to junior college and I'm playing in junior college. Cool.

546
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,119
Speaker 3: I get a scholarship, go to junior college, which is great,

547
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 3: and I go to Division two and I've been played

548
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 3: Division two for three years from one to oh four?

549
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 3: Did that? My junior year we went one in eleven?

550
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 3: Oh tough. My senior year we went oh and twelve. Oh.

551
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 3: Do you think that I have a shot to go

552
00:25:56,480 --> 00:26:01,119
Speaker 3: into the NFL? Absolutely not. I'm in playing. Yeah, Like,

553
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 3: what the heck? This was the whole thing. I wanted

554
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 3: to buy a house for my mom, my grandma's, I

555
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 3: want to get my mom out the hood. I want

556
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 3: to do all these different things. And now that's not

557
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:11,119
Speaker 3: gonna happen. So now I'm like fierce. I'm like, I

558
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,919
Speaker 3: don't give a dang forget football. Now I'm like forget it.

559
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 3: So two thousand and five, I took the whole year off,

560
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 3: and my issers like dude, you gotta do something. You

561
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 3: gotta go play a Reena ball. You got like, I'm

562
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 3: way too good for that. I'm not doing that. If

563
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 3: I can't get a shot first into the lead, I'm

564
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,639
Speaker 3: not doing it. It's just dumb. And I took the

565
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 3: whole two thousand and five off, and.

566
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 2: I was bitter, were you still gang banging?

567
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 3: I was still out there. I wasn't banging as hard

568
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:39,959
Speaker 3: as I did, but I was still obviously affiliated. It

569
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 3: was I'll still hit you up. Yeah, yeah, I was

570
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 3: still hit you up, but I wasn't really just banging

571
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 3: hard like that. And I never really banged hard. I

572
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 3: wore my colors and I represented wherever was from, and

573
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,360
Speaker 3: that's really what I did. But I was still definitely affiliated.

574
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 3: So that was two thousand and five and I took

575
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 3: that off. And then the Esperados, the Dallas Deesperados, the Areenity.

576
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 3: They had a tryout at the old AT and T

577
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 3: Stadium or the old Dallas Cowboys Stadium, and I signed

578
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,119
Speaker 3: up and I said, okay, my agent was like here,

579
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 3: two thousand and six, minute took a year off, let's

580
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:17,400
Speaker 3: go and try this, right, I'm like, all right, cool,

581
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 3: I'm hold on myself. I'm gonna do it. I would

582
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,400
Speaker 3: and killed that work out and demolished it, and every

583
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 3: coach there ran to me after I ran my forty.

584
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 3: They were like, man, where are you from? Who's your agent?

585
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 3: What school did you go to? I'm like, oh my goodness,

586
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 3: what the heck is this? What's going on? Yeah, I'm

587
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 3: like doing so I told him, and this is where

588
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,479
Speaker 3: everything was going on. I was like, okay, cool. So

589
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 3: now after the forty, now we go run routes on air. Cool.

590
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 3: Then the DB's come that we running one on once.

591
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 3: The head coach that's Dallas Desperados, he was right there,

592
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 3: and the Marcus where was there also when first I

593
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 3: first met the markets where and I was running routes.

594
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 3: I was doing what I was doing. It was probably

595
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 3: two hundred of his receivers. And I had a girl

596
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,080
Speaker 3: in the stance. She can verify everything I'm saying. And

597
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 3: it's crazy. She was in the stand.

598
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 1: Susy, you had a little extra motivations.

599
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 3: I did. I did it.

600
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:05,920
Speaker 1: I did.

601
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 3: You're right, Jake, I did. I did so. Yeah, I

602
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 3: had to do it. How to do? And so I'm

603
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 3: running these routes. It's two hundred of US receivers. Every

604
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 3: hour he was cutting people. Wow, so every hour you

605
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 3: were getting cut. Here, call a huddle and bring everybody

606
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,160
Speaker 3: in the huddle. He's like, well, number such and setting

607
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 3: such and sudding such, certing says that, thank you so

608
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 3: much for participating.

609
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 2: We're out.

610
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I gotta go. And now it gets all the

611
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,919
Speaker 3: way down to ten. I'm still there. And so this

612
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 3: dude is like, can anybody hold two fifty two? That

613
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 3: was my number? Can anybody hold two fifty two? Because

614
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 3: he is killing all day. I said, coach, matter of fact,

615
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell her route. I'm a run and I'm

616
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 3: gonna see what's gonna happen. That's what I did. I said,

617
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 3: I'm gonna run a post. This is what's gonna happen.

618
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 3: He was like, hold on two fifty two. So you're

619
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 3: gonna tell him to route? You do run. I'm like, yeah,

620
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 3: let's do it. I'm trying to make the squad. Yeah, yeah,

621
00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 3: I just I ran a poe boom de molister dB.

622
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 3: He was like, he just told you what he was running.

623
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 3: And yeah, So we got all the way down. I

624
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 3: was a number one receiver at that camp that time,

625
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 3: and somehow they lost all my times. They didn't know

626
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 3: who I was for whatever reason, and so I talked

627
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 3: to the Marcus Races like, dude, you're gonna be up

628
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 3: here with me. I'm like, that's what I'm trying to

629
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 3: get to. I'm trying to be a cowboy, like that's

630
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 3: what I'm trying to do my favorite team. And so

631
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 3: I was talking to him and that's the first time

632
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 3: I ever even met the guy. Knew who the guy

633
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 3: was and I didn't even know who he was, and

634
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 3: Boom was right there. But that's what happened. They lost everything.

635
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 3: So there was Arena two coach there and he got

636
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 3: my information. He wanted me to come to his squad

637
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 3: and at Marillo, Texas, and that's what I did about

638
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 3: myself again. And I went there and I played a

639
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 3: few games there. He put me on IR for whatever reason,

640
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 3: and my agent was like, dude, you hurt. I'm like, no,

641
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 3: I'm not hurt. Like what you talking me? He said?

642
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 3: Why are you are hard in It's like I don't know.

643
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 3: It means injurest what the heck? I have no idea.

644
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 3: So I go talk to coach. I'm like, dude, why

645
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 3: am I he's like, oh, well, I got to humble you.

646
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 3: And you know what this dude told me. He said,

647
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 3: you're not supposed to be in this league. In my head,

648
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 3: I'm like duh. And he said, you think you're manchho,

649
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 3: you think you like t o to real owens. I'm like, coach,

650
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 3: I don't even talk. I don't do that. That's not me.

651
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 3: He's like, I put your or to humble you. I said, okay.

652
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 3: So I went to talk to my agent. I said, look,

653
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 3: he's got to cut me, release me something. This is ridiculous.

654
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,719
Speaker 3: I'm not going to do this. This is dumb. So

655
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 3: he ended up finally releases me, and then I go

656
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 3: and work out in Streetport Bosa City Streetport Louisiana.

657
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 2: That's where Jake's from.

658
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 3: Oh look at their battle wings went down.

659
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 2: There.

660
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 3: Went to a workout two days, a two day workout.

661
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 1: I have been in Jill and.

662
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 2: A minute, casinos Andreport City. It is a still gambling.

663
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 3: I was. I was all over boats, all over them.

664
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 1: I just one in particular I've been banned from for life,

665
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 1: which one is that I'm not even okay cool.

666
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 3: I don't even want to say to one. I like

667
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 3: because it might be that.

668
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 1: So you're absolutely right, Yeah, it's the same one than

669
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 1: you're thinking.

670
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 3: I guarantee it is, yep, yep, it is. I guarantee yes, what.

671
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 2: You are talking.

672
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 3: I definitely was still gatherling there. End up making that

673
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 3: team first day, Boom said, met me at the office

674
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 3: and you're on the squad. So Boom, I get on

675
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 3: the squad do that. End up playing that season and

676
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 3: I'm like, I didn't really get the ball that much.

677
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 3: And I'm like, so every week he was coming to me.

678
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 3: He was like, man, Richie, my bag, Man, I gotta

679
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 3: get your ball. I gotta get your ball. Every single week.

680
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 3: This was happening every week. I'm like, yeah, coach is cool.

681
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm here, coach, let's get it. Every week. Nothing. Nothing.

682
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 3: I finally ended the season, I go back to Oklahoma.

683
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm done. I said, I'm not leaving, say

684
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 3: to Ogahoma again. We had to ring the team in Oklahomaself,

685
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 3: I'm done, I'm not gonna do it. So my agent

686
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 3: was like, dude, we got this opportunity and see I'm like,

687
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 3: here we go again. I said, I'm not leaving Oklahoma.

688
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,719
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna do that. That's dumb. I have a

689
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 3: ton of hate in my heart now, a ton of

690
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 3: resentment in my heart. And I'm like, I just motion

691
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 3: to come back. Yeah see, I'm like, man, this is ridiculous.

692
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 3: And so this is two thousand and seven, and I said,

693
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 3: I told my dad. I said, I'm gonna play here

694
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 3: in Oklahoma. I don't care. I'm gonna I'm gonna stay here.

695
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 3: He said, well, this is a good opportunity. It's a

696
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 3: good deal. These guys that really want you, they play

697
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 3: the game, they know the game. They get it. I said, like, cool,

698
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 3: I signed in the week. If it's still there in

699
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 3: the week I signed, He said, all right, I tell

700
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 3: him he was still there in the week. So guess

701
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 3: what I signed. So I'm now I'm excited. I said, Okay, cool,

702
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 3: I go to Seattle Side whatever. Cool, Cool, I get

703
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 3: to go. I get to go again. I'm gonna tumble

704
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 3: myself again. I'm gonna see what's gonna happen. And now

705
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 3: in two thousand and seven, so we play in the spring. Yeah,

706
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 3: I think it's the spring summer and in the fall.

707
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 3: So I'm coaching high school football now at Mama Matter.

708
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 3: I grew up in my city and there, you know,

709
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 3: some coach of high school football. I'm excited about it.

710
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 3: And that's just what I do. Me and my friends.

711
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 3: We go to Bricktown, enjoin Bricktown. No need to have

712
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 3: a gun or any of that stuff because we're in Bricktown.

713
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 3: Police crazy in Bricktown. That tough, Like, no, we don't

714
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 3: need that. So we're going to get some chicks and

715
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 3: that's this is what we're gonna do, and we're gonna

716
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 3: move on bout our business. So I ended up meeting

717
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 3: a girl there, and what do you know, we kind

718
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 3: of hit it often. So I told the girl, said, like,

719
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 3: we're goinna go this concert, I'm gonna hit you out.

720
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 3: And so he forty was doing a concert in Oklahoma

721
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 3: City at the club. So we go to the concert,

722
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 3: me and my boy. We go inside the concert. The

723
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 3: forties not there yet, and but he's on the way

724
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 3: the police escorting men. Of course they put him over

725
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 3: in boomboo bo. So now now escorty men. So he's

726
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 3: coming on in now, So it's cool. So he gets there.

727
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 3: We're in the club probably about fifteen twenty minutes and

728
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 3: here he comes and he's like rocking it concerts. Are

729
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 3: we leaving, We get in the cars. When we're going

730
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 3: to the house, it's like four point thirty in the morning.

731
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 3: Now like, I'm tired. I got this chick waiting. She's

732
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 3: trying to come and get I'm like, oh, my goodness,

733
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 3: let's get back to the town. She's on the way.

734
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 3: And as we pulled to the stoplight, a car behind us,

735
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 3: I guess, jumps behind us, and one of the homies says, man,

736
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 3: that just car has jumped behind us, real quick, crazy.

737
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 3: The first thing to come to me, I'm like, you scared.

738
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:19,320
Speaker 3: We're not scared. We're from Areada. We're not scared of

739
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 3: anything or anybody. And so now I raise up because

740
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 3: I'm all the way in the seat. I'm like, lo,

741
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,439
Speaker 3: now I raise up. I'm looking in my riv because

742
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,959
Speaker 3: I'm on the passenger side, and I kind of ease

743
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 3: over to the review to see what was going on behind.

744
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 3: So now I'm like, oh, Now, as we turn into

745
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 3: the close lane, that car turns into the far lane.

746
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,919
Speaker 3: I can hear him bickering. I'm tired. It's fourth thirty

747
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 3: in the morning. I hear him bickering. So I'm like,

748
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 3: so I start hitting him up, boom boom. Before I

749
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 3: knew it, the dude on the passenger side is on

750
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 3: top of the car. The dude in the back you know,

751
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 3: he's raising out of the car. You know how you

752
00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 3: sit on the door, He's raising out of the car.

753
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 3: The dude in the back seat was like, slow down,

754
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 3: I'm about to let these before I can. Before he

755
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 3: gets let these dudes have it. The dude was already shooting,

756
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 3: and then both of them was like And for me,

757
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 3: I knew if the waist up, I wasn't gonna get hit.

758
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 3: I was gonna live. So I had ducked in the

759
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 3: back seat and I turned and as I was turning,

760
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:25,399
Speaker 3: then I was exposed. My lower half was exposed. And

761
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 3: so when I get now, I don't know what happened

762
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 3: on Black album we had wrecked. When I wake up,

763
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 3: I told the homie, I said, man, hey, my leg

764
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 3: is burning. It's like, what do you mean, Ross, I'm like,

765
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 3: my leg is burning. I don't know, I can't move it.

766
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 3: I said, man, check my leg. He said, man, you good? Ross.

767
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 3: I said, nah, bro, check my hip. He said, you laking.

768
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 3: I said, ah me here. Once I wake up from

769
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,399
Speaker 3: all that, the fireman is at the door. Now, he said,

770
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 3: I gotta get you out of here. I was like,

771
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 3: I can't get out. I've been shot. He said, I no,

772
00:35:58,120 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 3: I gotta get you out of here because you just

773
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 3: hit this pole. And if I don't get you out

774
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 3: of here, gonna get eletrocuted. I said, get me out

775
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 3: of here then, and now we're going to the hospital. Now.

776
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 3: I'm terrified Sean Taylor just got killed because it's just

777
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 3: like I think about a month or months before he

778
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 3: got shot in the leg and he got he died,

779
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:15,800
Speaker 3: and I'm like I was thinking about that in an ambulance.

780
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm asking to do it. I'm like, man,

781
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 3: am I gonna die?

782
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 2: My good?

783
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 3: He's like, man, you're in shock right now. And then

784
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 3: he said I just passed out and I didn't wake

785
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 3: back up until I got into the hospital. And I

786
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 3: got in the hospital, what woke me up was my mom.

787
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 3: She was yelling all the way at the other end

788
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 3: of all. They wouldn't let her in because it's games.

789
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 3: And I was like, is that my mom? The nurse

790
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 3: was like, I don't know something. Later, I said, that's

791
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 3: my mom. Let her in. She's like, oh, you see,

792
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 3: I'm like, let her in or she's coming. Let her

793
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:47,399
Speaker 3: in or she's coming for sure. How do you want

794
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 3: to do it. You can be peaceful or it can

795
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 3: be calm, but let her in nice. Yeah, And so

796
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 3: my mom called me. She's like, oh my god, son

797
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 3: is so good to say. I'm like, Mom, is so

798
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 3: good to see you. And by that same time, the

799
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 3: detective came. He's like, are you miss rich And I'm like, yes, sir.

800
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 3: He said, you're lucky to be alive. I said, no,

801
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 3: I'm not lucky to be alive. From God son, God

802
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 3: and my father like what you're talking about, I'm not

803
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,479
Speaker 3: lucky to be alive. He said. Eleven bullets hit your door.

804
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 3: He said, wow, So two of them hit me and

805
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 3: one is still lifted me today and right before, like

806
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 3: I just signed that contract a couple of weeks prior,

807
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 3: and you know what am I going to do now?

808
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 3: So now I hook up with my training. He's my uncle.

809
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 3: He called him my uncle. He's a hard nose, white guy, solid,

810
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 3: it's crazy and he could pull out of here. And

811
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 3: my uncle with like best friends and I called him

812
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 3: Mark said uncle, Mark man, that's a guy shot. He said,

813
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 3: what the heck? Come to the house. I'm like him

814
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 3: and his brother are freaking crazy, like Uncle Dan, Uncle Marka.

815
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 3: I'm like, man, what the heck? What happened? So they

816
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 3: giving me the whole third degree and they're furious. I'm like, yeah,

817
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 3: I know me too. So he changed me, gets me right,

818
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 3: gets me going, and I'm now able to move a

819
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,320
Speaker 3: little bit, and I'm good. I feel like the bullet

820
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 3: made me faster. I don't know, it's pretty crazy, like

821
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 3: it's more explosive, like it was crazy. I'm like, what

822
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 3: the heck. So he's like, man, I think that bully

823
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 3: made you faster. Like I'm like no, I like feel great,

824
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 3: and I couldn't even walk for a minute. And it's like,

825
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,879
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, I'm jumping on like forty inch

826
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 3: boxes and I'm just running like crazy. And now I

827
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 3: get to the season. I'm playing the season now, the

828
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 3: first four games coaching throwing the ball. So now I'm

829
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 3: going back. I'm like that resentment is there. I'm like,

830
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 3: this is why didn't want to come. I'm like, this

831
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,800
Speaker 3: is ridiculous. I told my agent. I was like, this

832
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,320
Speaker 3: is exactly why they want to come. But an approached

833
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 3: you play sixteen games Yea, there's twelve more games left

834
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 3: and Joshua Richie has forty four touchdowns, one hundred and

835
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 3: forty eight catches, one nine hundred and seventy yards receiving

836
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 3: twelve games. Because I broke every record on the team,

837
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 3: every team record, and I bot multiple records in the league.

838
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 3: I was ready to rock and roll.

839
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:54,240
Speaker 2: No kidding, just got shot.

840
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 3: My mama's in prison. What am I going to do?

841
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 3: So every week I'm sending her clips. I'm crying, I'm

842
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 3: in tears. I'm sending her clips, in spying her and

843
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 3: she's in prison, sending her pictures and sending her news

844
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 3: clippings of everything I'm doing. Every single week. Every week,

845
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 3: I was scoring five touchdowns every single game. I had

846
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 3: a purpose, had a vision, I had a goal. I

847
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 3: was trying to get to the league. And that's what

848
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 3: I was doing. So do all that. My mom went

849
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 3: to prison. Boom, She's in prison, locked in, locked up,

850
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 3: And I'm still I'm just out here. I mean way

851
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 3: in Seattle, on from Oklahoma, way and Seattle. My mom's

852
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 3: in prison in Oklahoma. All I can do is center clips.

853
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 3: That's all I can do. Now. After that, I go

854
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 3: to Arena one. Now, so that was Arena two. I

855
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 3: go to Arena one and two thousand and yeah, so

856
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 3: seven eight Arena one. I'm playing in there in two

857
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 3: thousand and nine to leave folds. So I'm like, man,

858
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 3: you gotta be kidding me. Here we are again, Like

859
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 3: what the hell? This is crazy? So now I'm really

860
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 3: hating the game. Now it's really come back. Now the

861
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 3: resentment is really there. And for me, it was like, okay,

862
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 3: so I'm done. I'm gonna start a family, I'm gonna

863
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 3: have some kids, and this is what's gonna happen. I

864
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 3: don't even give it an yep, it's over. So what

865
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 3: I get a call? Of course, a freaking quarterback. A

866
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 3: freaking quarterback you call it said, dude, you're not in

867
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 3: the lead hit. I'm like, no, freaking the AFL just photed,

868
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 3: Like what the heck? He hung up on me, So

869
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 3: I'm tripping. Then the phone rings and he's like, hold on,

870
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 3: is this Joshua Rich. I'm like yes, sir. He's like, well,

871
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 3: this is such and such and jac just gave me

872
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 3: a number to call. You say, you're looking for an agent,

873
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 3: You're trying to get to the lead. I'm like yes, absolutely.

874
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:35,959
Speaker 3: So this dude hangs up on me, and so now

875
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 3: an agent calls. He's like, dude, I just got a call. Said,

876
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 3: you're trying to get to the lead. You're six y three,

877
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 3: you're like one ninety, and you run extremely fast and

878
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 3: you catch the ball extremely good. And what's up? I said,

879
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 3: what's up?

880
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 1: Tell me?

881
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 3: You tell me. I don't know, like you tell me

882
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 3: what's up. So he's like, okay, well I didn't made

883
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 3: five calls already. I said, cool, let's do it. I'm

884
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 3: excited about it. I'm like, I'm geeked. I'm like, oh man,

885
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 3: this is what I've been waiting on. He puts me

886
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 3: on the phone. He calls you tried to call it

887
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 3: Tampa Bay. He calls Jacksonville. Neither one of them answer.

888
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 3: Then he calls the Jets. The Jets answer. So the

889
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:15,839
Speaker 3: Jets was like, we've seen the film. We like him.

890
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:19,320
Speaker 3: He's big, let's go, so just give me an opportunity.

891
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,760
Speaker 3: I'm there for like a week I think eight days

892
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:23,799
Speaker 3: some with the Jets, and the Jets was like at

893
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 3: that time, I think I was twenty seven. The Jets

894
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 3: was like, well, we want to draft two young guys.

895
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 3: We want to send you to a camp in CFL

896
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 3: and we won't bring you back in the.

897
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 2: Training camp Canada.

898
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Canada. I'm like, the heck, But I did

899
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 3: get it was there. I said, okay, humble myself. I

900
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 3: didn't really bring onto the resentment anymore. But now I

901
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 3: get to this camp in the CFL. It was the

902
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 3: wrong team. So it's not the team that I'm supposed

903
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 3: to be in. It's not the team that I'm supposed

904
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 3: to be act somehow, I'm like, come on, man. So

905
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 3: my agent had all these different people. He had some

906
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 3: receivers in the draft, he got drafted like second third round.

907
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 3: He got all these players, and I'm like, the world,

908
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 3: can you send me to the wrong place? And the

909
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 3: Jets is this is what they're doing, this is their farm.

910
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 3: So now I really don't give it two craps about

911
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 3: football anymore. I hate the game. I don't even know

912
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 3: that agent's name. I don't even know the coach's name,

913
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 3: the general manager from the Jets, I don't know the

914
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 3: dude from the freaking Canada. I don't even tried to

915
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 3: think of their names. And remember, I can't even do it.

916
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 3: I had so much hatred toward the game so much.

917
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 3: I despise a football game. I hated it. I didn't

918
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 3: care to see it, didn't care to watch it, didn't

919
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 3: care to If anybody talked about it, I would move,

920
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 3: I would leave. I didn't care. I hated it that much.

921
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 3: I'm like, I feel like you really took that from it.

922
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 3: But then when I look back at it today, I say, well,

923
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 3: if you would have really grind, if you were really

924
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 3: put that work in, if you really would took some

925
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:52,800
Speaker 3: steps differently before all that, then you probably would have

926
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 3: got the shot that you wanted. But I believe that

927
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,839
Speaker 3: I didn't work. And I also if I did hit

928
00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 3: the lead, I was going to furnish my hood and

929
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 3: bring more drugs. I knew that was going to happen.

930
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 3: Just gotta be real. Wow, I knew I was going

931
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 3: to do that. God was like, Nah, we're not going

932
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 3: to do that.

933
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 2: That was life happening for you.

934
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was life having it for me. That was

935
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:20,280
Speaker 3: life having them for me. Absolutely, actually, one hundred thousand

936
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:21,240
Speaker 3: percent correct.

937
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 1: I dig your ownership because like you know, damn good

938
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:30,320
Speaker 1: and well, like you're a domin doesn't with that story,

939
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 1: that was that close, right, you know that? And but

940
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 1: the fact that you own it, that's what makes you

941
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 1: who you are today, because there's a lot of people

942
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 1: that want there's a lot of people still pointing fingers.

943
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 2: So your football career was over, But did surviving that shooting?

944
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 2: Did that make you rethink your street life?

945
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 3: Absolutely on, hundred percent, And I'm glad you asked that.

946
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:05,839
Speaker 3: When I got shot, I took my flag down out

947
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 3: of the window and I walked to my mom. I said, Mom,

948
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 3: I'm done. She said, what do you mean. I said,

949
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 3: I'm done with the whole gang life. Done. I don't

950
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 3: want any part of it anymore. She broke down bawling.

951
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,399
Speaker 3: She's like, oh my gosh. I didn't think this time

952
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 3: would ever come. So I said, Mom, I'm going to

953
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:31,760
Speaker 3: go buy a blue shirt now, and she bowed even harder.

954
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 3: She's like, oh my gosh, is this my son? I'm

955
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 3: like absolutely.

956
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 1: So when you finish up football, where football finishes with you,

957
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 1: however you want to look at it, Yeah, that's what

958
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 1: it was. And then you lose that outlet you find

959
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:51,439
Speaker 1: yourself in the depths of gambling. Where does that lead?

960
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 3: I had foul Chapter seven bankruptcy, lost in everything. When

961
00:44:56,440 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 3: I was on my couch at home. I was severely depressed, broken,

962
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 3: had no relationship with my kids, had no relationship with

963
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 3: their mother. We were going at each other's throats and

964
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,839
Speaker 3: court back and forth for years, like we were just

965
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 3: doing it, and I was broken. I remembering on that

966
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 3: couch with tears coming down my face in the fetal position,

967
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 3: curled up, balling just like a baby. Had no electricity,

968
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,360
Speaker 3: had to take freezing coat showers. The only thing that

969
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 3: I could focus on was like the bugs that were

970
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 3: hitting my window. And then my neighbor had that little

971
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 3: bug light that would get the bugs, and I was

972
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 3: hearing that. Then I would sit up and I would

973
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 3: just be in a meditative state. Tears would just be falling,

974
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 3: and all I can do is just be with me.

975
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 3: I made a decision that moment. I said I'm done.

976
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:52,800
Speaker 3: This is over stopping this, and I made that commitment

977
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,799
Speaker 3: to myself that I'm gonna get through this. I would

978
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 3: go take a freezing coach shower and I would breathe

979
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 3: in that shower, in the shower to get warm. I

980
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 3: didn't know what was going on. I don't know why

981
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 3: was that happening. So the more I did it, I

982
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 3: got comfortable and I would take like four or five

983
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 3: showers a day because I had no ELECTRICI so I

984
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 3: had no running hot water. That's all I could do

985
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 3: is take freezing cold showers. Then I moved things around.

986
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 3: I moved my couch around. I moved my chairs around.

987
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 3: I moved my TV around. I move my kitchen table around,

988
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 3: my chairs around. I just moved everything around. And I

989
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 3: started taking different routes home. And I was working for

990
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 3: the school system at that time. I was getting paid

991
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 3: once a month, but I had payday loans. I was

992
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 3: some severe debt every month, and I didn't know what

993
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 3: to do, didn't know who to turn to, didn't know

994
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 3: what was going on. I was broken. I was lost,

995
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 3: like nothing, disgusted.

996
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:46,800
Speaker 2: But then you made a decision.

997
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 3: But I made a decision, and a decision has to

998
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 3: be made within zero to ten seconds. Anything after that,

999
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 3: in my opinion, it's kneel and void. It doesn't sniper

1000
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:02,280
Speaker 3: gonna work. Now it's been eight years. I haven't touched

1001
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 3: some dice nor been at a casino in eight years.

1002
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 3: Because I made that decision that I was going to

1003
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 3: bet on me in that moment. That's what I did.

1004
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 3: I bet on me, and I changed everything. Now I

1005
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 3: got the relationship with my kids, got a relationship with

1006
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 3: the mother. Life is great, beautiful.

1007
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:23,400
Speaker 1: Well done, well done, and congratulations bro.

1008
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 2: And thank you for sharing this story.

1009
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 3: Absolutely And I'm just grateful for who I am today

1010
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 3: and where I'm at today. And my three things that

1011
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 3: I live by in my life is self love, healing,

1012
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 3: and forgiveness. Those are the three things that got me

1013
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 3: to where I'm at today. Amen. I believe healing is

1014
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 3: a lifetime commitment. It's just never You're never going to

1015
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 3: be fully healed. It's a lifetime commitment. I believe that

1016
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 3: every day you got to heal something, every day you

1017
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 3: got to get there. I'm pretty sure related, Yes we are.

1018
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 3: I'm almost positive, yes, yes. And so those are the

1019
00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 3: three things I live by. And you see my life

1020
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 3: the all the forgiveness I had to do. When I

1021
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 3: look at my life today, that's where I'm surrounded by

1022
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 3: his self love, healing, and forgiveness. And those are the

1023
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 3: three things. And the caveats is courage, bravery, and boldness.

1024
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:15,359
Speaker 3: I had to have enough courage to face that. Then

1025
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:16,840
Speaker 3: I had to be brave enough to walk through it.

1026
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 3: Even on the fire was hot, I still had to

1027
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:21,359
Speaker 3: walk through it, be bold enough to take a risk

1028
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 3: and bet on me.

1029
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 2: That is the good stuff right there. Joshua Richie, thank

1030
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:28,760
Speaker 2: you so much for telling your story. What an unbelievable,

1031
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 2: crazy roller coaster of a story. But truly thank you

1032
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 2: for digging deep and telling us all that.

1033
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 3: Thank you for having me. Yeah, you showed up today.

1034
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what.

1035
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 1: When I walked in this room, you know, I came

1036
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 1: from a meeting where I was like, I was really

1037
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 1: missing war because I was like, I don't have an

1038
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 1: outlet that is good enough right now for how I'm feeling.

1039
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 1: God knew all I needed was you, bro. Yeah, that's it,

1040
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 1: So thank you. I appreciate it.

1041
00:48:58,680 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 3: Thank you for being you with.

1042
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 1: Conviction and being the leader in the inspiration that you are.

1043
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 1: We're related. You're probably gonna know all the things that

1044
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 1: I want to say. You already know, yes, and so

1045
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 1: your family to me forever, and I appreciate you, and

1046
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 1: I appreciate your grindness absolutely and humility. So don't stop.

1047
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 3: No, never, good never. I appreciate you too, Jake. We're

1048
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 3: definitely brothers, no doubt about it now. Actually we're sisters

1049
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:27,839
Speaker 3: and brothers.

1050
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 2: That's right, I'll take it anyone I'm.

1051
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 1: Related to by defaults she's related to. It's one of

1052
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:37,319
Speaker 1: those things like I do the blood in for you.

1053
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 2: I think that was a gang thing, but I don't know, don't.

1054
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,760
Speaker 3: Man. Thank you, Yes, absolutely, you welcome.

1055
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:52,839
Speaker 1: Man. I'm so glad I won't spoke at that MVP game.

1056
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:55,400
Speaker 1: I know I could tell just by looking at Joshua.

1057
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 1: I was like he and I your same cloth.

1058
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 2: Absolutely great energy, A motivator.

1059
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, his scars are honest, absolutely no, no wonder he is

1060
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 1: who he is. He is a motivator and inspirator and.

1061
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:11,319
Speaker 3: A driver through and through.

1062
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for listening. If this episode touched

1063
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 2: you today, please share it and be part of making

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Speaker 2: someone else's day better.

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Speaker 1: Put on your badass caps and go be great today.

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Speaker 1: And remember you can't do epic stuff without epic people.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for listening to the good Stuff. The Good

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Speaker 1: Stuff is executive produced by Ashley Schick, Jacob Schick, Leah

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Speaker 1: Pictures and q Code Media, Hosted by Ashley Shick and

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Speaker 1: Jacob Shik, Produced by Nick Cassolini and Ryan Counts House