1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to Huddle Up, brought to you by the Fields 2 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: Huttle Group. Jaguars Senior writer John Osher, NFL Network analyst 3 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:14,319 Speaker 1: and former Jaguar Bucky Brooks, and senior reporter J. P. 4 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: Shatdrick bring you the latest on your Jacksonville Jaguars. 5 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 2: Huddle Up starts right now. 6 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 3: Welcome in Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks in his Wednesday 7 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 3: of week fifteen, December eleventh, and we've got plenty to 8 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 3: get to as the Jaguars prepared for the New York 9 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 3: Jets this week at the Bank, we'll have our last 10 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 3: look at the Jaguars win in Nashville last week in 11 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 3: Week fourteen, ten to six, a win as a win, 12 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 3: We'll take our first look at the Jets. They have 13 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 3: the identical record of three and ten. We'll have a 14 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 3: little discussion about winning now versus draft position. We know 15 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 3: what a lot of the fans want, we know what 16 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 3: the players and coaches in the building want. 17 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 2: That's all coming up. Huddle Up with. 18 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 3: Bucky Brooks is brought to you by Fields Auto Group, Jacksonville. 19 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 3: See Fields First, Jacksonville's premiere luxury auto group. Go to 20 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 3: a Fields Auto dot Com JP Shadrick John Osier from 21 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 3: the Hundai studios at the Miller of Electric Center, and 22 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 3: Bucky Brooks is out in Los Angeles and he is 23 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 3: standing by the phone. I'm sure for a call from 24 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 3: Chapel Hill, right, Bucky. 25 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 4: I am. 26 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 5: I'm sitting here waiting to see if Bill Belichick is 27 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 5: going to take the Carolina job. According to the latest reports, 28 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:27,960 Speaker 5: the ball is in his court, so we're gonna see. 29 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 6: If he's gone pass, dribble or shoot. 30 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 2: See what he does with Bucky Brooks GM of the 31 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 2: Tar Heels. 32 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 6: I could see that, right, I mean, I know if 33 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:36,759 Speaker 6: I could go so far. 34 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 5: Say that, but I think it would be a compelling 35 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 5: storyline to see a university that moved on from a 36 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 5: coach Mack Brown because they felt like he was too 37 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 5: old to only hire. 38 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 6: Someone who is only one year younger. And Bill Belich. 39 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 3: Didn't they have this setup, John, I remember a few 40 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 3: years in Arizona State had this set up. Herman Edwards 41 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 3: had a GM out there and like they won some games, 42 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 3: they never lost to Arizona, but then they recruited in 43 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 3: a dead period after during COVID, and that got him 44 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 3: in hot water with the NCAA and then they were out. 45 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:10,799 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the Belichick's things is pretty fascinating. A 46 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 4: lot of my media cohorts sort of laugh at it. 47 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 4: I think it would work. I don't know why, I 48 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 4: said a feeling. 49 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 5: Well, okay, because like here's the thing, and JP knows 50 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 5: as being a row tie guy, Like my thing is this, Like, 51 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 5: so what you're banking on is like it's the blueprint 52 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 5: that Alabama used and that George is using and that 53 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:34,679 Speaker 5: Oregon is using and everyone. 54 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 6: Else is using it to have success. But can you 55 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 6: do it and get the players? 56 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 5: Like and what he's done and watching him on Pat McAfee, 57 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 5: he talked about kind of pushing the envelope a little 58 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 5: bit where you have a staff of all coaches that 59 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 5: just coached the product on the field, and a staff 60 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 5: of recruiters who spend most of their time recruiting and 61 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 5: doing those things so the coaches don't have to recruit 62 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 5: and that, and so it's just intriguing to see if 63 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 5: someone who is known to push the envelope and known 64 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 5: to think outside of the box, to see what he 65 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 5: would do to kind of disrupt the college football landscape. 66 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 5: And it brings a little more attention to my University. 67 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 5: I'm not gonna be mad at it. 68 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it would work because you know, everybody 69 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 4: considers Bill this like do players want to play for 70 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 4: guy who's gonna yell him all the time. He's not 71 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 4: that big of yeller. I mean, you know, he from 72 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 4: what I've understood about him, from as far as that 73 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 4: he relates to players really well. He likes players, meaning 74 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 4: likes star players. Is a smart guy put in the 75 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 4: right position, so he certainly has the name recognition. Players 76 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 4: know who he is. And you're trying to get guys 77 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 4: who think they're going to the NFL, and the perception 78 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 4: would be he could get him there. So it's outside 79 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 4: the box. But I don't think it's that ridiculous. 80 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, And in theory, obviously you know this, buddy, I mean, 81 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 3: the UNC has has donation money to spend and would 82 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 3: probably we have a whole lot more if they were 83 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 3: this would be the case. 84 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, because look, people in leon'side say that those are 85 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 5: the people that are driving it, the board of trustees 86 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 5: are driving it. 87 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 6: Those are the guys that typically have. 88 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 5: The money or they know where the money is, and 89 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 5: so if they are behind it, then yeah, they're gonna 90 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 5: give him every opportunity to succeed. To me, what we 91 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:21,919 Speaker 5: can't deny is he's a really good coach. And people 92 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 5: talk about, oh, he hasn't won with Tom Brady whatever, 93 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 5: but there are a lot of coaches who every won 94 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 5: with great quarterbacks and run to the level that he 95 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 5: won when he had a great quarterback. For me, I 96 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 5: would just like to see a better on field product 97 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 5: in terms of the football and what I think about 98 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 5: the New England Patriots and how well coached they've been 99 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 5: and how they've had elite talent, how they've been. 100 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 6: Able to win when they haven't had the lead talent. 101 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 5: To me, I'm just more fascinated to see what he 102 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 5: would do with a developmental program to see if he 103 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 5: can maximize it with or without Nio being a major 104 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 5: factor in his process. 105 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 3: So that's happening in Chapel Hill. Bucky Brooks is standing by. 106 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 3: We're putting the signal out there. Hey, Bucky would except 107 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 3: the phone call. That's all I'm saying. He's not saying it. 108 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 3: I'm saying it. It's a possibility. Jaguars over the Titans 109 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 3: last week our final look at a ten to six victory. 110 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 3: They needed it, man, They needed it in the worst 111 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:16,600 Speaker 3: way down in that locker room after losing five in 112 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 3: a row. 113 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 2: The defense held their own throughout. 114 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, they got off the field on fourth downs in 115 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 3: the red zone a couple of times. The offense was 116 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 3: awful in the first half, Bucky, but when it mattered 117 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter, they finally moved to football. They 118 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 3: started throwing to Brian Thomas. That helped in the second 119 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 3: half and ran the football better in the second half. 120 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 3: But hey, win's a win. So you know what stands 121 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 3: out the most about WHYAT got over the finish line 122 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 3: last week. 123 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 5: Let me say this because I was very candid during 124 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 5: pregame where we talked about I was worried about the 125 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 5: energy from the unit because they won't a lot of 126 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 5: guys that had a lot of buzz and then pepping 127 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:57,039 Speaker 5: this step during pre game. But I'm gonna say this, 128 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 5: once the game got going, you saw our pride fortea, 129 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 5: and you saw a bunch of guys that really wanted 130 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 5: to win. And the reaction that you saw from the 131 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 5: team after the game, to me, says a lot about 132 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,559 Speaker 5: the team one. The football character to me was maybe 133 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,039 Speaker 5: better than people anticipated. They're not ready to pack it 134 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 5: in they're not already making plans to go to Cancun. Two, 135 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 5: Doug Peterson still has the ear and the pulse of 136 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 5: the team, based on the interactions in the locker room. 137 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 5: Whenever you lose, you lose a bit of confidence and 138 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 5: maybe you lose a little belief. But for whatever reason, 139 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 5: this team doesn't appear to have lost belief in their coach, 140 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 5: and I think that's very telling. And then the final 141 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 5: thing is as much as we can talk about and 142 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 5: speculate draft position in which player or whatever, I think 143 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 5: for everyone around the program, it is just something about 144 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 5: winning that you're addicted to, and I think that part 145 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 5: came back in I would anticipate a better effort from 146 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 5: the team this week in practice, I would anticipate more 147 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 5: energy from the team heading into the game. And to me, 148 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 5: that is significant because with nothing to play for, with 149 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 5: five games, the Jaguars show it up. And that's a 150 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 5: testament to the job that Doug Peterson and but more 151 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 5: importantly to the players. 152 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 6: Showing up and being willing to play. 153 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 4: Is the only place guys go in the off season. 154 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 2: Cancuon apparently, I mean, yeah, well, I mean there's so 155 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 2: many different flights. 156 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 5: I mean like, there's so many different places you can 157 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 5: go to apply deale carmon. You can go and hang 158 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 5: out to some of these all inclusive resource and lay 159 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 5: back and kick up and I know on these goes 160 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 5: like you can go to the Caribbean. But hey, man, 161 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 5: I don't know for the for the buck, more bang 162 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 5: for the buck somewhere around can Coon is still a 163 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 5: nice deal of their jail. 164 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, I usually just get up Ferdina. 165 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 3: Yeahl Island, no airfare required. 166 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 4: Look, I the Senate in me after that game thought, okay, 167 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 4: they they gave effort. They did give effort. There was 168 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 4: also an element of the Titans not being very good 169 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 4: allowed them to sort of not play very well in 170 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 4: the Jaguars for three quarters and then get back into it. 171 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:08,559 Speaker 4: So I'll say that for the purpose of just making 172 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 4: sure that we keep the victory in perspective, it was 173 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 4: over a struggling Tennessee team and saying that that was 174 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 4: my feeling walking downstairs after the game, and then when 175 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 4: I got into the locker room, I sort of corrected myself, 176 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 4: meaning these guys have worked hard, they do care, they 177 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 4: are still playing. Talking to Tank Bigsby afterward, he was like, man, 178 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 4: I've forgotten the feeling of what it was like to win, 179 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 4: and it did sort of reset me of you know what, 180 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 4: these guys are going to try to win, they want 181 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 4: to win. Good for them for winning. And I do 182 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:46,599 Speaker 4: think there's something too what Bucky said. You know, I 183 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 4: would like to see the last four or five games 184 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:53,319 Speaker 4: them playing young guys. If they win a couple JP 185 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 4: and you feel like the core the future is contributing 186 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 4: to that, then I think winning in these last four 187 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 4: or five games matters very much. If you feel like 188 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 4: they're playing a lot of guys who aren't gonna be here, 189 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 4: then you sort of wonder of, okay, well blah, right. 190 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 4: But if it's BTJ and Tank, Bigsby and jar and Jones, 191 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 4: which was the other day to me, Bucky Jarion Jones 192 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 4: having a huge fourth quarter and mattering making winning plays, 193 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 4: I do think that sort of thing matters in week 194 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 4: two next year. If he's done that now, how much 195 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 4: can he grow from that? I think there's a huge 196 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 4: element of that. 197 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 5: Okay, So let's also have a real conversation because I 198 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:41,079 Speaker 5: thought it was telling in a postgame, and I don't 199 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 5: I'm sure JP heard this, but Doug Peterson talked about 200 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 5: getting everyone to play because everyone's playing for their job. 201 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:51,079 Speaker 5: And he not only like he was very candid and 202 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:53,199 Speaker 5: talking about the players are playing for their jobs. 203 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 6: But he said, hey, I'm coaching for my job. And 204 00:09:56,480 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 6: to me one, I thought it's very real to. 205 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 5: Have the head coach kind of show some fight, because 206 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 5: for a while that you just didn't know where he 207 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 5: felt with that right. He never came out forcefully and 208 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 5: talked about I'm the guy for the job or any 209 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 5: of those things. And so for him to have that 210 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 5: awareness and put that out there, I thought it was interesting. 211 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:17,959 Speaker 5: The other part of it is in postgame he talked 212 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 5: to me about going to the coordinators and being like 213 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 5: players over plays. Give the ball to the best players, 214 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 5: and that's what sparked the offense. 215 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 6: And when you look at the fourth quarter, who touched. 216 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 5: The ball, primarily it was Tank Bigsby, it was Brian 217 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 5: Thomas Junior, and it was Evan Ingram. And then on 218 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 5: defense you saw the young playmaker Jerry and Jones. And 219 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 5: so maybe a little light bulb went off like if 220 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 5: I'm a dude this, I'm gonna do this with the 221 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 5: young players, and I'm gonna play the young guys and 222 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,959 Speaker 5: give them an opportunity to change our fate and law 223 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 5: and behold, they won a game. Now they got to 224 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 5: figure out if they can do it again this week 225 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:55,319 Speaker 5: against the Jets. But it is interesting to see the 226 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 5: more the ball went to the young guys. 227 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 6: The better the offense played. 228 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,839 Speaker 5: And if it continues trended that way, then what does 229 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 5: it mean at the end of the season when you're 230 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 5: making these hard decisions that you may have to make. 231 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 3: All right, guys, let's come back and we'll get into 232 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 3: the New York Jets this week. Aaron Rodgers, future Hall 233 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 3: of Famer, standing by John Osier also has a football 234 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 3: in hand. He's ready to wing it around the yard 235 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 3: a little bit. Also today, it's every Wednesday. 236 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 6: With this guy. 237 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 2: We've got plenty ahead. 238 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 3: We heard you, loud and clear, Jags fans, and we're 239 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 3: taking it back to the nineties again. The Prower throwback 240 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 3: jerseys will return to the field this Sunday when the 241 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 3: Jags take on the Jets. Lock in your seats Jaguars 242 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 3: dot Com, slash tickets. 243 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 2: It's huddle up with Bucky Brothers. 244 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:47,079 Speaker 6: Still hair, I mean it could be it can be. 245 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 7: Highly efficient, highly effective. Still can throw, you know, accurate footballs, 246 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 7: quick release. You know, it probably doesn't move quite as 247 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 7: well as he wants he once did, but listen, he's 248 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 7: still an elite quarterback. And you know that's something you 249 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 7: got to put there for, is Aaron Rodgers. 250 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 3: That's Peterson discussing Aaron Rodgers fucking back. Gets suddle up 251 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 3: with Bucky Brooks and the full press conference at Jaguars 252 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 3: dot com with the Jaguars YouTube channel from earlier today. 253 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 3: Pro Bowl voting and tickets are now live. Cast your 254 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 3: vote for which Jaguars players you'd like to see there 255 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 3: and secure your seat to see the NFL's biggest stars 256 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 3: in Orlando this February. Jaguars dot Com slash Pro Bowl. 257 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers has been to a few Pro Bowls in 258 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 3: his career at twenty years now in the NFL. Bucky 259 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 3: and obviously the things in New York have not gone 260 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 3: as anyone there anticipated with the Achilles injury last season. 261 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 3: This is the entire year this year, the head coaches fired, 262 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 3: they haven't played well, They're three and ten. Where where 263 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 3: are you with Aaron Rodgers now in year number two 264 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 3: and beyond Buckie? 265 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 5: I mean, look, I think it's coming to an end 266 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 5: obviously is very disappointing for the New York Jets, given 267 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 5: the high hopes and the big expectations they have when 268 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 5: they signed Aaron Rodgers two years ago. He has a 269 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 5: shortened season, but I think it was four plays and 270 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:17,959 Speaker 5: he's done, and. 271 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 6: Then you have this year where he hasn't been very good. 272 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 6: I think this is it. 273 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 5: I can't imagine the New York justs bringing him back 274 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 5: and wanting to continue to kind of ride this train 275 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 5: when look, he's on the backside twilight of his career 276 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 5: and I don't know what the future holds for him 277 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 5: in New York. 278 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 6: I think this has to be like the Swan Song. 279 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 5: So we get a chance to see a Hall of 280 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,439 Speaker 5: Fame player playing probably one of the final few games 281 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 5: of his career. But what you hope that the Jaguars 282 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 5: can send him into retirement in terms of, like continue 283 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 5: to show them they're not going to the postseason. 284 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 6: He has a bad game, and maybe they move on 285 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 6: from him. At the end of our game. 286 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:57,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's playing better the last couple of weeks, which 287 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:00,839 Speaker 4: sounds kind of funny. Sant avadon Rodgers, like he's making progress. 288 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:02,839 Speaker 2: Right there, but. 289 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 4: He's playing well enough and they have enough talent that 290 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 4: you know they're always dangers. This is not a team. 291 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 4: There's some things like when Carolina came in here last year, 292 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 4: he sort of knew that if you played defense a 293 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 4: certain way, they weren't going to have enough to get you. 294 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 4: The Jets have enough to get you, and they're good defensively, 295 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 4: So pressuring Aaron Rodgers part of the deal. Earlier this season, 296 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 4: he was getting pressured a lot. He was getting blitzed 297 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 4: a lot. He's getting hit a lot, and they're how 298 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 4: old and how great you are. It's always tougher to 299 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 4: play quarterback when you're getting hit. So Trayvon and Josh r. 300 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 3: Key awtome against the Vikings and the Vikings BUCkies. You know, 301 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 3: it's one of the highest blitz rate teams in the league. 302 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 3: And he threw three picks in that game in London. 303 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 6: Yeah he did. 304 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 5: And you know the thing about it, He's had more 305 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 5: turnovers and more interceptions than we're used to seeing from 306 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 5: a guy that's a four time MVP. 307 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 6: And John is right about the players that they had. 308 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 5: Gary Wilson is legit, DeVante Adams Steele can hurt you, 309 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 5: and they have some other in the backfield that you 310 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 5: have to ca for and. 311 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 6: Breeze Hall and Brayden Allen and those guys. 312 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 5: So this is a good team from a personnel standpoint, 313 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 5: they just haven't played very well. And so for the Jaguars, 314 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 5: it's about making sure they don't get into an early rhythm, 315 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 5: that the quarterback feels the pressure, that you heat them 316 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 5: up a little bit. 317 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 6: But you got to be selective in terms of how 318 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 6: you do it. Very challenging game. 319 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 5: Because the record will say, hey man, this is one 320 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 5: of the Jaguars. You win, but you still got to 321 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 5: make sure that you prepare and have the right plan 322 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 5: to deal with what is a very talented offense. 323 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 4: Well, they're almost the same team in a lot of ways. 324 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 4: I mean, they both had high expectations coming in. They 325 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 4: both you know, I still sort of wonder they fired solid, 326 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 4: like five games in, you know, they were two and 327 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 4: three or two and four, not out of it at all. 328 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 4: I want to say panicked, but you know, firing five 329 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 4: six games in in a seventeen game season, any chance 330 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 4: they had to sort of get right seemed like it's 331 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 4: sort of it's hard to do that in the NFL. 332 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 4: Fire a head coach and then get it going, and 333 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 4: I know it happens. 334 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 2: You might have like one or two games and then 335 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 2: in the long run it's tough. 336 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 4: But they've had seven losses six points or less. Jacks 337 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 4: had seven losses five points or less. So both of 338 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 4: these teams believe that they've been close. The thing you 339 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 4: wonder is with the Jets, when you've got an interim 340 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 4: head coach who nine times at ten they don't get 341 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 4: the head job. Are they just sort of fragmented playing 342 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 4: for themselves at this point when the Jaguars looked like 343 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 4: they were sort of playing as one last week, maybe 344 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 4: that'll be an edge for the Jacks. 345 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 2: It would be nice to see. 346 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 5: It would be nice, and you do wanted that, Like 347 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 5: for the Jets the loss to the Miami Dolphins. 348 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 6: They jumped out on the Dolphins and allowed them to 349 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 6: come back. 350 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 5: And what I was worried about when I was scoreboard 351 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 5: watching during the game the Titans game, I was like, 352 00:16:58,080 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 5: oh man, the last thing you want is the just 353 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 5: coming to this thing, playing pretty well, coming off of 354 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 5: high of winning the game. Maybe they collapse at the end, 355 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 5: Maybe they kind of knocks the win out of the 356 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 5: Sails and they don't come with the same vigor. That's 357 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 5: the wishful thinking. But certainly their teams dangerous to Jaguars. 358 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 5: They're gonna have to score more than ten points to 359 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 5: win the game. So I mean, defensively, it's a tough challenge, 360 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 5: but obviously they gotta find a way to score. 361 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 4: Well something you're supposed to say every week, you know. 362 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, kind of that's kind of how it works. And 363 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 3: you know what, we'll come back and dig into that 364 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 3: a little bit. You know who likes to see the 365 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 3: Jets coming? Mac Jones. Mac Jones has a lot of 366 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 3: success against the New York Jets in his career. 367 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 2: We'll get to that and much more ahead. 368 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 3: Jags fans want customized Jags furniture for your home. 369 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 2: Check out zipchare dot com and browse all customizable options. 370 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 3: Zip chair furniture for fans to huddle up with, Bucky. 371 00:17:51,520 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 8: Brooks, Williams, Javon Kinlaw, Sauce Gardner. 372 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,400 Speaker 7: I mean, just the list goes on. I mean, this 373 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 7: is this is not a three and ten defense. I'll 374 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:14,160 Speaker 7: tell you that this is a really good defense, and 375 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 7: you know, the pieces have been brought in to to. 376 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 6: You know, do just that. 377 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:27,679 Speaker 7: You know and look it's you know, they're in the 378 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:30,199 Speaker 7: same situation we are. You know, I think they have 379 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 7: seven losses as well. They are one score games, you know, 380 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 7: and won this past weekend. So you know they're they're 381 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:39,399 Speaker 7: they're doing and saying the same things we are and 382 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:40,880 Speaker 7: looking to win a game. 383 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:44,919 Speaker 3: Hey, Coach Duck Peterson on the Jets defense earlier today, 384 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 3: welcome back. 385 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 2: It's huddle up with Bucky Brooks and ladies. 386 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 3: Join us at EverBank Stadium Sunday, December twenty ninth, from. 387 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 2: Ten to twelve ten am to twelve noon. 388 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 3: That is for our lively and fun field Glitz and 389 00:18:56,800 --> 00:19:02,160 Speaker 3: Blitz Brunch. 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Bucky does not probably eat many 396 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 2: of those. 397 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 5: Not many, But I do like a patry, Like if 398 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 5: you if I had to fat to share something dirt 399 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 5: little sickret Your boy loves a donut, and uh, there 400 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 5: are a few different donuts spots that I might frequent 401 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 5: and do ball when I'm there. But yeah, I'm I'm 402 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 5: a donut guy. So pastry donuts, pies, cakes, I'm four. 403 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 2: The list is getting longer than I thought of it. 404 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 4: That donuts in the high end hotels that we put 405 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 4: it Bucky Brooks up in. 406 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:50,679 Speaker 2: So that's right. Yeah, they may not have it. 407 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 5: They may not have it in the high end hotel, 408 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 5: but you know, your boys sniff around the neighborhood a 409 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:55,199 Speaker 5: little bit. 410 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 6: That makes sure I find one. 411 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 4: He'll order a donut and room service and doesn't mind 412 00:19:59,200 --> 00:19:59,880 Speaker 4: putting on the team. 413 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 2: Of course not. 414 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 6: I'm not a part of it. I'm not really a 415 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:05,679 Speaker 6: rule service guy. I don't really like them. He's a 416 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,119 Speaker 6: man going to get out about like I like to 417 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 6: get I like to get out in the bout seat. 418 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 5: The people kind of hang out to see what the 419 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 5: vibe and the energy is, particularly because the college football 420 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 5: Saturday kind of see what you know, people down there 421 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 5: in the SEC and thebais you know, kind of see 422 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:22,159 Speaker 5: different level ball here. Some of the arguments and that 423 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 5: kind of stuff. 424 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 4: You know, see that I'm. 425 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 3: Aware the Jets are a top five defense. You heard 426 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 3: Doug Peterson there, They're not a three and ten defense. Here, 427 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 3: the fourth ranked defense in the NFL. They're sixteenth against 428 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 3: the run, they're fourth against the pass. They give up 429 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 3: some points though unfortunately their offense hasn't done much to 430 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 3: help him out. And he lists a few of the 431 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:46,159 Speaker 3: names there. But you know what we were going into it. 432 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 3: You know who loves to see the Jets coming on 433 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 3: the schedule, Mac Johns. Mac Jones is five and zero 434 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 3: in his NFL career against the New York Jets, all five, 435 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 3: of course with the Patriots, but the opposing quarterback in 436 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:01,640 Speaker 3: all five of those Zach Wilson. 437 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 2: He's no longer there. Of course, we know what Mac 438 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 2: has done the rest. 439 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 3: Of the way, But when the Jets come to town, 440 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 3: at least in his recent past, different story this year, Bucky, 441 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,160 Speaker 3: What's where's. 442 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 2: This defense so dangerous? Like? What makes this group so good? 443 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 2: The talent? 444 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 5: The talents were really making dangerous because from a schematic standpoint, 445 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 5: they didn't do a lot. It's very similar to the 446 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 5: stuff that Gus Bradley used to do back in the 447 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:29,639 Speaker 5: day when he was with the Jaguars. This is the 448 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 5: team that really wants to play seaball getball defense. They 449 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,199 Speaker 5: want to make it simple, they want to play fast. 450 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,880 Speaker 5: They want to be a physical defense. But it's really 451 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,120 Speaker 5: not a defense that turns it over. They just kind 452 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:40,880 Speaker 5: of can clamp you and lock you down to get 453 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 5: you in bonnyard situations. And then they're talented enough with 454 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,479 Speaker 5: their front line that they can get after whether it's 455 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 5: Quinn Williams upfront or some of the other guys that 456 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 5: are hunting will McDonald can get after, Like they have 457 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,360 Speaker 5: a very talented and disruptive front four. 458 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 6: And then in the back end Sauce. 459 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 5: Gardner DJ reed like they are really really good at 460 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 5: locking you down and kind of doing some of the 461 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 5: stuff that we were doing in terms. 462 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 6: Of playing kind of like this hybrid man to man 463 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 6: covered on the outside. 464 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 5: The thing about it, though, there are some areas that 465 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 5: they will leave available to you because they don't believe 466 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,159 Speaker 5: you have the patience or the discipline to continue to 467 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:16,479 Speaker 5: take it. 468 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 6: So the test is own mac jones. Is he patient 469 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 6: and disciplined enough to take some of these unneath. 470 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 5: Throws until they kind of create a big play opportunity. 471 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 4: Well, I mean that's that's what Mac will do. I mean, 472 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 4: he clearly to me at the end of the day, 473 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,640 Speaker 4: he is a guy who absolutely will continue to take 474 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:36,439 Speaker 4: that as long as he give it to him. I 475 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 4: think sometimes against some defenses to his detriment, because at 476 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:43,239 Speaker 4: some point you have to le to throw downfield. And 477 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 4: I do worry a little bit about over the over 478 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 4: the last three or four games, Mac checking down and 479 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 4: throwing shorts so much. At some point you gotta go downfield. 480 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:59,120 Speaker 4: But against the Jets it for one game. That sort 481 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 4: of patience is is probably what he needs to do 482 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 4: with a couple of big ones to BTJ mixed in. 483 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,199 Speaker 4: I mean another thing about Mac that I like that 484 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 4: I think fits him with BTJ and Triva did this too. 485 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 4: He doesn't mind throwing the ball up to a receiver 486 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 4: and having him go make the play. And I don't 487 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 4: know if it's because he had talented guys at Alabama, 488 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 4: if he's used to have you know that being a 489 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,479 Speaker 4: successful formula at Alabama, Yeah, it didn't hurt. So I 490 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 4: do think that will be something that as him and 491 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 4: BTJ get little more on the same page, you will 492 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 4: see more often with Mac is hey, I don't care 493 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 4: if you're doubled right here, it is go get a kid, 494 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 4: and he can. 495 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 2: He can certainly can't. 496 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 3: One more thought on this Jets defense here, Bucky Quincy Williams, 497 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 3: former Jaguars draft picker Forrris linebacker, third round pick in 498 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:59,119 Speaker 3: twenty nineteen, was sent off and joined the Jets in 499 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 3: twenty twenty one. He was a first team All Pro 500 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 3: last year. Unbelievable development he's had. 501 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 2: Where does this come from? 502 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 5: I would say this like sometimes one man's trash is 503 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 5: another man's treasure. And the thing about the National Football League, 504 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 5: every scheme in every culture doesn't necessarily fit the player, 505 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 5: and he obviously jumped into a situation that was a 506 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 5: great fit for who he is and how he plays. 507 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:28,120 Speaker 5: And with the Jets, because I talked about seaball getball defense, 508 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 5: they really allow him to cut it loose and he 509 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 5: is flourished in that now. It certainly helps that he's 510 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 5: also playing behind his brother, Quinn Williams, who is a 511 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 5: dominant space eater at the point of attack and can 512 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 5: create that can occupy a lot of blockers at a 513 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 5: point of attack. But no, Quincy Williams says, really become 514 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,360 Speaker 5: one of the top linebackers and football. Then oh, by 515 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,439 Speaker 5: the way, JP, I am sure he'll be a little 516 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 5: frothy when he comes back. It's always personal when these 517 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,640 Speaker 5: guys get let go, So look for him to try 518 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 5: and make fifteen tackles and have a bunch of big 519 00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 5: hits because it is something. 520 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 6: That has a little extra meaning to him when he 521 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 6: comes back to do ball. 522 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 4: And he was drafted what twenty twenty nineteen? 523 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 2: Okay, wow, he played nineteen and twenty and then was 524 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 2: gone and one you know. 525 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 4: It sort of got caught up Urban comes in new GM, 526 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 4: new scheme, one year thing. Frankly college head coach, so 527 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 4: kind of got probably lost up in the mix more 528 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:33,199 Speaker 4: than hey, the franchise doesn't like you, so just you know, 529 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 4: but obviously he'll come in for them at like I said, 530 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 4: but a nice kid. 531 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 2: I mean it was great. 532 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 4: I always enjoyed being around him, and I wish he 533 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 4: could have had this success here, But I don't know 534 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 4: that the schemes that this team has played, I don't 535 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 4: know that he would have had that sort of success here. 536 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 4: Not necessarily his fault, if that makes any sense. Like, 537 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 4: I think he's fit what they do very well, and 538 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 4: good for him. Yeah, Yeah, it's. 539 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 2: Great for him. 540 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, so now you got to deal with him on Sunday, right, 541 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 3: add that to the list of things. 542 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 2: Let's come back in a moment. 543 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 3: We'll take a look at the playoff races. A f 544 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 3: C NFC Our Final thoughts head of the Jaguars Jets 545 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 3: matchup coming up this Sunday at the Bank, and to 546 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 3: tuddle up with Bucky Brooks. 547 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 9: Because honestly, this season this year was just I you know, 548 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 9: I just felt how eager these guys are to learn. 549 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 9: And this year I can just tell I could just 550 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 9: kind of tell they're they're honestly genuinely listening. And uh, 551 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:51,639 Speaker 9: and really when I was hurt those those those four weeks, Uh, 552 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 9: there was many many instances I helped Rent with a 553 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 9: lot of things and gave him some tips and then 554 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 9: he'd go out and do it in the game and 555 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 9: work and just you know that that feeling is very 556 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 9: addicting as a as a veteran player helping young guys 557 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 9: be successful. So just kind of, you know, kept it 558 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 9: rolling from there. And and honestly, I'm learning from them 559 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 9: as well. I've been my running game, like I've been 560 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,360 Speaker 9: really a lot better this year in the Run Game, 561 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 9: and it's because of brand, It's because of Luke. Just 562 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 9: you know the example they set in the detail they 563 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:23,120 Speaker 9: set in the Run Game. 564 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 3: Devin Ingram Jaguars tight end on helping the younger players 565 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 3: around him started when he was on the on the 566 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,439 Speaker 3: shelf earlier in the year. Welcome back to Tundle Up 567 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,159 Speaker 3: with Bucky Brooks, brought to you by Field's Auto Group Jacksonville. 568 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 3: See Fields First, Jacksonville's premier luxury auto group. Go to 569 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 3: Fieldsauto dot Com, j P. Shadwick, John Osier and Jacksonville 570 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 3: from the Hyundai Studios. 571 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 2: And Bucky Brooks is in Los Angeles. 572 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 3: Uh, you know, and we'll get to the playoff races 573 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 3: coming up with something we at the start of the show. 574 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,880 Speaker 3: There's all these fans out of here, Bucky, not all 575 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 3: of them, but some of them were like, oh, they 576 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 3: won the game and screwed up the draft order in 577 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 3: the building. It's we talked about it. They're excited to 578 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:08,679 Speaker 3: win the game, and they should be. They go to 579 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:12,120 Speaker 3: play to win the games, coaches and players. So there's 580 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,639 Speaker 3: that little push and pull going on between fans and 581 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 3: things inside the building this time of year. 582 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 5: Bucket, Yeah, but I think it's unrealistic to ask a 583 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 5: bunch of competitors to go and just not care about 584 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 5: winning games when ultimately you're judged by the scoreboard and 585 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:31,160 Speaker 5: also for them they evaluated and how they performed these 586 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:32,160 Speaker 5: last few games. 587 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,360 Speaker 6: As much as we want the best players in. 588 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 5: The draft and all of that other stuff, players that 589 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 5: don't care about that, it's right. 590 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 6: If I'm a player, I don't care about next year. 591 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 6: I don't care about any of that stuff. 592 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 5: My job is to put myself in a position to 593 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 5: extend my playing career in Jacksonville or otherwise. 594 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 6: And ultimately, man, I want to win games because. 595 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 5: If I win games and we do better, it gives 596 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 5: us a chance to stay around. Well, whatever player we're 597 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 5: supposed to get, and the draft is the player that 598 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 5: we're supposed to get. But I think you certainly want 599 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 5: to get used to the fielding. You never want to 600 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 5: just kind of concede anything and just throw your hands up. 601 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 6: And say, yeah, let's just take another ill for the 602 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 6: sake of just getting through the season and having a 603 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 6: high draft. 604 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 4: I mean, there's rare situations where in your you're in 605 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 4: your last game and there's a quarterback involved, where I 606 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 4: really really understand and think that it has the proper perspective, 607 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 4: right we with five weeks remaining, the draft is such 608 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 4: a percentage game. The difference between the fourth and the 609 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 4: sixth pick. I'm not saying it's it's nothing, but it's, 610 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 4: like Bucky said, when fans talk to me about it, 611 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 4: and I get a questions like this every year, when 612 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 4: you know you're in a season like this, it's tough 613 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:55,239 Speaker 4: to answer because it doesn't even really apply, right, Like 614 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 4: for the reasons that Bucky said, these coaches aren't thinking 615 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 4: about it, the players aren't thinking about They're not going 616 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:05,719 Speaker 4: to think about it. So there's really the fans can 617 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 4: get as upset as they want, but it's not going 618 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 4: to change the outcome and players and coaches and know 619 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 4: I sit there and say, hey, hey, what about picking 620 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 4: third and fourth? It's uh, And I know it's always 621 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 4: going to exist, But the question is almost not worth answering, 622 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 4: right because it's they're not gonna change their approach anyway, No, 623 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 4: is it better for the organization? 624 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 3: Well, and then, by the way, if they did change 625 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 3: their approach, the league would come down so hard on anybody. 626 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 2: That did that on purpose, right, And you can't do that. 627 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 4: It's just, uh, it's tough because I do understand why 628 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 4: fans think about this. I think they think about it 629 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 4: more now that the draft is so analog, Like you know, 630 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 4: it's all draft all the time. You know, these talking 631 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 4: heads like you know, the Life NFL network. What's his name, 632 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 4: Hey Brooks? Yeah, you know, Yeah, it's all they talk about. 633 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 4: But but it's, uh, it's tough. But look, there's I 634 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 4: answer it this way. JP. There's nothing you can do 635 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 4: as a fan to control it. This part of it. 636 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 4: They're gonna go out and try to win. You may 637 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 4: as well enjoy it when they win. 638 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 2: It's the season. 639 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 4: Because they're because they're not gonna not do it. So 640 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 4: but yeah, that's it. It's a tough one. Somebody said, well, 641 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 4: what's better? Well, who knows? If they win five and 642 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 4: then aren't any good next year, well then you know, 643 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 4: maybe you should have kept losing. But how do you 644 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 4: do that? 645 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 3: You can't you see what happened with back to back 646 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 3: number one picks A yeah, you know, yeah, I'll. 647 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 6: Say this because so we can look ahead to the draft. 648 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 5: Like the draft is just it's not like an all 649 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 5: time draft where people talk about. 650 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 6: It like they talk about the positions of strength. 651 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 5: Uh handful of the pass rushers, tackles and stuff. You 652 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 5: can find quarterback classes up and down. Wide receiver class 653 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 5: is not what has been the last few years. 654 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 6: Really good with running backs though and those things. 655 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 5: So it's a class that is it's fine, but it's 656 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 5: not one that is going to be held that all men. 657 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 5: You got to get in the top ten because there 658 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 5: are all these gold jacket dyes that are available. 659 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 6: That's why when you're the Jaguars, man just keep winning games. 660 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 5: And whoever's there when we pick is whoever's there, and 661 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 5: we just kind of find a way to. 662 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 6: Make it work. 663 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 4: See and I'll go back to us earlier in the show, 664 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 4: and it really resonated for me Sunday when I was 665 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 4: trying to I was getting a lot of questions like this, 666 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 4: trying to figure out sort of Okay, where do I 667 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 4: come down on this. I keep going back to Jaron Jones, 668 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 4: you know, and there's moments in seasons where guys sort 669 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 4: of start coming into their own and he's been good, 670 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 4: but the other day, you know, he he got a 671 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 4: game ball. I mean, I really got a game ball. 672 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 2: But yeah, he deserved one. 673 00:32:56,680 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 4: And they made plays. There are plays and games, and 674 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 4: there are playing games that matter, and back to back 675 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 4: he knocks down it, he defenses the pass, he gets 676 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 4: a blitz, the kind of confidence that gives you this 677 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 4: off season of UH. He's a confident kid. I him 678 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 4: on the ozone podcast and he said, Hey, I never 679 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 4: liked for confidence. Then he kind of said, you know, 680 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 4: but a game like that sort of makes you feel 681 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 4: like you're right to feel good about yourself, right, So 682 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 4: I do think that sort of thing matters. And in 683 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 4: the last four games, if Mason Smith has three big 684 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 4: time games and they win a couple because of him, 685 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 4: that's sort of like getting a draft pick, you know, 686 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 4: in a way. So if the right guys are improving 687 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 4: and you win, then I think winning matters a. 688 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 6: Lot that it doesn't matter a lot. 689 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 5: And look, Jones's a smart kid because he picked a 690 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 5: good number, So I'm okay with him. 691 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 6: One of my favorites. 692 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 2: Oh you allowed it? Did he call you first? 693 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 5: And I wish, I wish, I wish we had to 694 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 5: drop and retire that one thought. I wish I wish 695 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 5: they had to pay me a couple of bands, a 696 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 5: couple of stacks. 697 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 6: For UH for the right to wear that. But maybe 698 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 6: maybe in another lifetime. 699 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 2: There's only one. 700 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 6: Banks And whoever likes. 701 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,360 Speaker 4: Warn a lot, it's a lot to do. It's a lot. 702 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 2: It's tough. 703 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 4: Credit for having the guts to live in that shadow. 704 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 6: I mean, you know, you. 705 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 2: Gotta have confidence to do it. 706 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,840 Speaker 3: He's got the he does have a confidence in the 707 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:35,760 Speaker 3: game to do us. 708 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,400 Speaker 2: Quick thoughts about the playoff races. 709 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 3: Let's start with the n f C and you know, 710 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 3: this is Detroit and this is the NFC North. 711 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 2: Really is what it is. 712 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 3: These these three teams at the top of that division 713 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 3: are right there in the thick of it. Lyons, Eagles, Seahawks, 714 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 3: Bucks lead their divisions. Then the wild card with Minnesota, 715 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 3: Green Bay and Washington at the moment, Rams Falcons and 716 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:03,400 Speaker 3: some others in the hunt. But with Bucky, that NFC North, 717 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 3: it's a juggernaut. We saw that firsthand this year. Where 718 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 3: do you stand now with four weeks to go? 719 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:09,799 Speaker 2: Here? 720 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 5: Look, I think the Lions are probably one of the 721 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 5: better teams. They're the most complete team, but they have 722 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,360 Speaker 5: a lot of injuries. I love what the Minnesota Vikings 723 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 5: are doing, how they really elevated Sam Donald with the 724 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,279 Speaker 5: personnel and the scheme. The Green Bay Packers are a 725 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,239 Speaker 5: tough team. The team that is the best team is 726 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 5: the team that has some infighting, and that would be. 727 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:30,240 Speaker 6: The Philadelphia Eagles. 728 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 5: When you look at the way that they play Sakuon Barkley, 729 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,800 Speaker 5: how they able to use that combination of Barkley and Hurts. 730 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,839 Speaker 5: But you got some whiny and mopi wide receivers that. 731 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:42,360 Speaker 6: Could derail what is a super Bowl caliber team. So 732 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:43,840 Speaker 6: you just wonder if they can put it together. 733 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 5: But right now, man, my money's on Dan Campbell in 734 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:48,960 Speaker 5: the Detroit Lions because man, they get it done. 735 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:50,360 Speaker 6: They play a physical, stylid ball. 736 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 5: That always works and even though he's a little risky 737 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,720 Speaker 5: for my taste, it seems to work for them in Motown, 738 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 5: particularly if they're able to get home for the vantage. 739 00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 4: For Yeah, it's weird. I feel like these injuries the 740 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:07,320 Speaker 4: Lions are getting you could start having a situation there. 741 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 4: Alo's not their fault. Where the Eagles they have experience, 742 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 4: they got a Super Bowl a couple of years ago. 743 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,720 Speaker 4: This could be one of those years where the story 744 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 4: line is the Lions all season injuries catch up and 745 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 4: the Eagles get them and all of a sudden, next year, 746 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 4: the Lions have to put up with how they can 747 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 4: never win the big one. I hope not, because I 748 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:26,880 Speaker 4: kind of like, I mean, they're fun to watch. I 749 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 4: like the Lions. I like Dan Campbell marks up there, 750 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,319 Speaker 4: so you sort of feel like, if a team's gonna 751 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,440 Speaker 4: win it, you'd like to see it. But it's shaping 752 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 4: up like that a little bit that it plays out 753 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:39,880 Speaker 4: that way sometimes. 754 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 3: And by the way, the Lions this week hosts the 755 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 3: Buffalo Bills, which brings us to the AFC Playoff Race, 756 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 3: and what a game that should be down the stretch. 757 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 3: And this AFC Playoff race, led of course by Kansas 758 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 3: City twelve and one. They keep finding ways to win. 759 00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 3: The Bills two games back. The Steelers aren't going going away. 760 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,399 Speaker 3: We'll see what Houston does. If they can finish it out, 761 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,719 Speaker 3: they can secure the division with a win and an 762 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:06,560 Speaker 3: inding loss. 763 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 2: This week Baltimore. 764 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 3: LA Chargers, Denver Broncos the wildcard teams at the moment. 765 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 3: Is anybody catching Kansas City buck You? 766 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:18,920 Speaker 6: Uh, No, no one's catching them. 767 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:20,439 Speaker 5: So the road to the Zoop Bowl that is going 768 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 5: to go through Arrowhead Stadium and Taylors Whilt will probably 769 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 5: be in the Bigga Building. The thing about the Kansa 770 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:27,719 Speaker 5: City Chiefs is they mastered the art of winning. They 771 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 5: understand how to win in a bunch of different ways. 772 00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:33,279 Speaker 5: You don't win fifteen straight one score games without understanding 773 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,000 Speaker 5: how to kind of get it done in the clutch. 774 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,759 Speaker 5: And as as long as they have number fifteen bat 775 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,799 Speaker 5: Mahomes who understands how to take the game over in 776 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,319 Speaker 5: the fourth quarter, they're gonna be a tough out. And 777 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,360 Speaker 5: this year when everyone is talking about lucky stuff and 778 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,760 Speaker 5: all the different ways that they're winning and kind of taking, 779 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 5: I would say jabs of the Kansaity Chiefs. I'll say 780 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,920 Speaker 5: this man who's gonna feel. 781 00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,279 Speaker 6: Great about playing the boogeyman in arrow hit in the 782 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:00,879 Speaker 6: fourth quarter? Win the game is tight? Nobody. 783 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,000 Speaker 5: So I'm saying to Canan see, the Chiefs are gonna 784 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:04,400 Speaker 5: go back and they're gonna be in a position at 785 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,439 Speaker 5: three feet Yeah. 786 00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:13,920 Speaker 4: I said it last week. They're they're like overlooked in 787 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:18,120 Speaker 4: some weird way, like and discounted for a two time 788 00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:23,719 Speaker 4: champion that's twelve and one. We've seen it here all year, right, 789 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:28,080 Speaker 4: A team that can't win late they did last week. 790 00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:29,799 Speaker 2: You know they haven't until last year. 791 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:33,839 Speaker 4: It's a storyline and doing this a long time, and 792 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 4: this year just hit me the realization of good teams 793 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,480 Speaker 4: win games late and they and they have a couple 794 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,480 Speaker 4: of guys who do it, and they know how to 795 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,560 Speaker 4: do it, and in a league of one score games, 796 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,799 Speaker 4: the teams that do it are the great teams. And 797 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,799 Speaker 4: can City's twelve and one. They've almost you know, after 798 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,120 Speaker 4: everybody's saying all year they weren't that good as good 799 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,160 Speaker 4: as before, They're gonna have home field in Arrowhead, I 800 00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:02,439 Speaker 4: think for all but what they've had it every year 801 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 4: since like nineteen thirteen. 802 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:05,680 Speaker 2: Last year it was the first year they didn't have 803 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:06,880 Speaker 2: it right, right, Yeah. 804 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:09,600 Speaker 4: So uh, credit to them. They know how to do 805 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:11,920 Speaker 4: it and knowing how to do it in it in 806 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:13,319 Speaker 4: a league with a bunch of teams that don't know 807 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:14,640 Speaker 4: how to do it matters. 808 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:15,960 Speaker 2: It certainly does. By the way. 809 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:19,680 Speaker 3: The Steelers at the Eagles this week, big ball game 810 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,520 Speaker 3: there between the conferences. As we mentioned, the Bills and 811 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,520 Speaker 3: the Lions also, so some big games coming up. Jaguars 812 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,240 Speaker 3: Jets also coming up this week at the Bank. 813 00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:29,480 Speaker 4: One o'clock winning streak. 814 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:31,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what happens when you win two or more. 815 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 2: It's called a winning streak. 816 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,040 Speaker 5: Bucky, good By, you got to win one before you 817 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:36,640 Speaker 5: can win too. So we got one down, let's see 818 00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,480 Speaker 5: if we can get the second one. You're gonna call it, 819 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:42,040 Speaker 5: I mean they lock it for me to call it, 820 00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,040 Speaker 5: they need to lock it in whatever like that. 821 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:45,799 Speaker 6: Look, I just want to show up and play well. 822 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:47,400 Speaker 5: If we shore up and play well and get number two, 823 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:48,879 Speaker 5: then maybe next week I consider calling. 824 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,719 Speaker 3: Okay, it's a lot to ask. 825 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 4: I just want to see this play called in Vegas. 826 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:56,759 Speaker 4: That's the Bucky Brooks ball. 827 00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:01,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. Next next week, wait for that preview. 828 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:07,360 Speaker 3: Come on, we'll find out where your bread is buttered. 829 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,200 Speaker 3: I guess next week, Bucky. Come on, man, we're all duball. 830 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,240 Speaker 4: You'll have one of those shirts. 831 00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:15,560 Speaker 3: In the middle like the Kelsey Mother right on those. 832 00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:18,879 Speaker 3: We'll get to that next week. Bucky, have a good one. 833 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,000 Speaker 3: We'll talk to you on Sunday. Here at the bank, man, 834 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,960 Speaker 3: Bucky Brooks out of here, John Osier Our thanks to David, Joe, 835 00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:26,440 Speaker 3: Brent Reeber, Joe Fortunato. 836 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,360 Speaker 2: Thanks to you for watching. It is huddle up with 837 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:30,160 Speaker 2: Bucky Brookly