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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of Big Blue Kickoff Live right

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Speaker 1: here on Giants dot com. I am John Schmilk. That

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Speaker 1: guy's Jeff Eagles and the phone numbers two one four,

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Speaker 1: like the show. So, Jeff, Giants and Jets two teams

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Speaker 1: that have not had the seasons that fans would like

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Speaker 1: them to have. I think that's probably fair to say, uh,

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Speaker 1: Jets and one and seven Giants at two and seven.

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Speaker 1: The only thing difference is that the Giants have had

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Speaker 1: there by and the Jets have had their buying. The

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Speaker 1: Giants haven't. So when you head into this game, I'm gonna,

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Speaker 1: you know, before we go through our position by position deal,

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Speaker 1: which you usually try to do, I'm gonna throw out

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Speaker 1: a really simple blanket statement here, all right, get out

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Speaker 1: in a year, we're all these teams were These two

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Speaker 1: teams have just consistently shot themselves in the foot in

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Speaker 1: a game like this, and I realized this is two

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Speaker 1: of most games. And Tom Coffin used to say, more

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Speaker 1: games are lost than or one. Whichever team doesn't make

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Speaker 1: the stupid mistakes on Sunday and just shoot themselves in

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Speaker 1: the foot and give themselves self self inflicted wounds, that's

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Speaker 1: the team that's probably gonna come out of this game

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Speaker 1: with a win. I mean, and he get it sounds

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Speaker 1: simple and stupid because during the week, I mean, we

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Speaker 1: all break down games in different ways. John's around here

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Speaker 1: all the week. Um, I'm in. I'm not. I'm here

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Speaker 1: on Fridays. So I come in with my great wisdom

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Speaker 1: looking at comparisons. And I will tell you this, the

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Speaker 1: Giants are healthier than the Jets, that's for sure. Um.

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Speaker 1: And we all know that when a team is decimated

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Speaker 1: back in two thousand, which was it actually last year

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Speaker 1: at that point in time. For the end of the season,

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Speaker 1: Lenton I do in the pregame would be like, wait

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Speaker 1: your point, these are two teams that make a lot

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Speaker 1: of mistakes. There are two teams that turned the football

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Speaker 1: over at an alarming rate Giants minus ten just minus seven.

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Speaker 1: important that statistic is. We've always mentioned it, but to

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Speaker 1: John's point, one team is going to do better than

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Speaker 1: this the other by not doing the inedible shooting themselves

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Speaker 1: we get these things every week, right, and they're shaded.

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Speaker 1: of the numbers for the Jets offensively are a little

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Speaker 1: to John mentioned throwing off your back foot, you start

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Speaker 1: I mean, Donald's been sacked in five games, Jeff eighteen times.

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Speaker 1: playing press coverage, but this, if there's a time to

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Speaker 1: in real life. Yes, yes, Unfortunately we were up against

426
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Speaker 1: the clock on the getting in and out of a segment,

427
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Speaker 1: so we couldn't talk to him a lot of it.

428
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Speaker 1: But he was there in spirit and he was great,

429
00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:22,960
Speaker 1: good dude, great guy. We all like Big Now. Now

430
00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:26,119
Speaker 1: Lynn completely different than I thought Lynne would look like.

431
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Speaker 1: I had met Lenna training camp, so I had not,

432
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Speaker 1: so uh, he surprised me. I thought Lynne was a

433
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Speaker 1: bigger man than he is. Not a very big guy.

434
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Speaker 1: So I thought Lynne would be this big like you know,

435
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Speaker 1: grizzly dude and hanging out in the woods in Pennsylvania

436
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Speaker 1: and you know whatever, from Maryland, Maryland. That's what I

437
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Speaker 1: met Maryland closely close and Joe and Pennsylvania. Yeah, Pennsylvania, Maryland.

438
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Speaker 1: They're just about the same thing. Yeah, No, they're not

439
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Speaker 1: the ones on the water, right. I don't think you

440
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Speaker 1: want to get I got and Joe mixed up for

441
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Speaker 1: a minute. I don't think you want to get cred

442
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Speaker 1: cakes and pensylvan Ay. You never know as long as

443
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Speaker 1: they're frozen. All right, Now, are you ready for calls?

444
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Speaker 1: Okay to A one, three, four, five, they're ready? Not

445
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Speaker 1: enough os in smooth. We'll start with Ricken Tampa Bay.

446
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Speaker 1: He's up next on Big Blue Kick Golf Live. How

447
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Speaker 1: warre you? Rick? Rick? Hello recording, Good afternoon, Rick, Rick

448
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Speaker 1: going twice scot Okay, well let's start with Scott in

449
00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:34,840
Speaker 1: New Mexico. Then that's okay, Scott, what's up? No worries anyways,

450
00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,240
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask some questions about the both the

451
00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,760
Speaker 1: Jets and the Giant. He Scott. Hold on one second, Rick,

452
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Speaker 1: I think you're online one. We'll get to you right after.

453
00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:45,200
Speaker 1: Scotts will stay on the line. Wreck go ahead? Should

454
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Speaker 1: hang up? No? No, no, no, no, you have you on.

455
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Speaker 1: It's fine, You're all right, all right, No, Mackenzie Bickensie,

456
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Speaker 1: do me a favor. Put put him on hold and

457
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Speaker 1: put Scott back on and then we'll get the Rick afterwards. Okay,

458
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Speaker 1: so line to go to line too for you, Mackenzie. No,

459
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Speaker 1: I think we're online one right now. Right, I'm still

460
00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:09,280
Speaker 1: here though, I'm holding. Okay, let's go Rick, Rick, go ahead, Scott.

461
00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:10,879
Speaker 1: We'll get you in a second. Rick, what's up? All right?

462
00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,639
Speaker 1: All right? So I'm first. Now, okay, there you go.

463
00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:17,600
Speaker 1: How you got? Well, I haven't called in weeks, and

464
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Speaker 1: now I'm back and forth on what first or second? See,

465
00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:22,600
Speaker 1: that's what you get for not calling for weeks. You

466
00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,520
Speaker 1: need to call every day. Well you know what, Listen,

467
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Speaker 1: I I mean I haven't talked in a couple of

468
00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:30,760
Speaker 1: weeks and then just slowly just depressed with the way

469
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Speaker 1: they've played. And I don't even feel like talking about

470
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Speaker 1: how bad I don't how bad the coaching staff is,

471
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Speaker 1: how bad everything is, and you know, real quick, two

472
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Speaker 1: things I want to say. One is that regarding like

473
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Speaker 1: what you were just saying, how I was saying that,

474
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Speaker 1: you know, now is the time to you know, we

475
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Speaker 1: got to stop what we're saying to say we're doing,

476
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Speaker 1: you know, And I agree that we have to see that.

477
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Speaker 1: But you know what, even seeing it to get the

478
00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,439
Speaker 1: Jets is gonna mean nothing. I don't I want to

479
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Speaker 1: if the Giants win, if they don't win, and they

480
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Speaker 1: get there by and then they go to next week,

481
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Speaker 1: and then maybe we'll talk after that win if that's

482
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Speaker 1: the case. But right now, if they win, I'll talk

483
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Speaker 1: to them and in two weeks after the bye because

484
00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,160
Speaker 1: and if they lose, oh my gosh, forget about it,

485
00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,880
Speaker 1: that would be even worse for everything on this team.

486
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Speaker 1: But I have a question for you with that said,

487
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Speaker 1: now too, I have a Polly Pollyanna thought or or

488
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Speaker 1: whatever you uh utopian thought is nine and seven? Is

489
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Speaker 1: first question? Nine and seven? Will that make the playoffs?

490
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Speaker 1: So there's my run the table, my run the table thing, NFC,

491
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Speaker 1: I mean, NFC tent ninety seven. I don't think it's

492
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Speaker 1: gonna work. Be ten and six, right, So is that

493
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Speaker 1: a possibility? And then now the opposite end, I am

494
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Speaker 1: seriously looking at this kid young out of Ohio State. Now,

495
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Speaker 1: I mean, look at the five teams right now that

496
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Speaker 1: are battling. Now the Giants happen to lose, I mean,

497
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Speaker 1: when did they set their sights on this guy? Because

498
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Speaker 1: you know, Miami Ins Sinnati are going to be quarterback

499
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Speaker 1: driven in the draft, and went Burrow and two are

500
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Speaker 1: going it's gonna be those two guys most likely. Then

501
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 1: you got Herbert. You've got another couple of quarterbacks. That

502
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Speaker 1: leaves this pass rusher with the Giants and the Jets

503
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Speaker 1: desperately need for our team. Where do you do you

504
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Speaker 1: look at that? As they I know the team's not

505
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Speaker 1: gonna say they're looking at that, but you guys, can

506
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Speaker 1: I have got to be honest with you. I'm not.

507
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Speaker 1: I can't break down draft prospects now where during the

508
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Speaker 1: bye week he could be the number no looky looks

509
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Speaker 1: have to look at absolutely look and again I won't

510
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Speaker 1: talk about the guy specifically, but in a vacuum, if

511
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Speaker 1: the Giants come to draft next year and there's an

512
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Speaker 1: awesome pass rusher that's there, yeah pick them. Cool. I'm

513
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Speaker 1: in where do I sign? Let's do it? But as yeah,

514
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Speaker 1: I know, but as the Giants fan, we're looking at that,

515
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Speaker 1: at this guy thing? You know what? All right? For

516
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Speaker 1: some reason, they lose to the Jets, and I mean

517
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Speaker 1: that's why I was saying, if they beat the Jets

518
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Speaker 1: and then you know, don't you know, well, I don't

519
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Speaker 1: want to hear anything. You don't want to hear Schumer say,

520
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Speaker 1: there's there's our win all this stuff. You know what,

521
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 1: one more week a bye and then a big a

522
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Speaker 1: regular game because the Jets think too, and then let's

523
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Speaker 1: see if they win and then we see it's improvement

524
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Speaker 1: that we want to see. But if it's not gonna

525
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Speaker 1: we're not gonna have that improvement. It's almost like, as

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Speaker 1: a fan, that's we need this guy and he's there

527
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Speaker 1: because you could probably Canning with the third pick. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm you know, I'm not sure the way people are

529
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Speaker 1: talking about this kid, he might be the top pick,

530
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Speaker 1: even with the other quarterbacks available. I'll be interested to

531
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Speaker 1: see how the Dolphins handled that if they indeed do

532
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Speaker 1: have the first pick. Yeah, because they hit them and

533
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 1: since and that they got to have quarterbacks and the Jets.

534
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 1: But maybe you're right and that's just the intriguing thing

535
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Speaker 1: behind us. But yeah, that's uh. I, like I said,

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Speaker 1: I'm put up and shut up for next week after

537
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Speaker 1: the bye, let's see what happens. But you know what,

538
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Speaker 1: I'm looking to see that, Like you said, Barkley's got

539
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Speaker 1: to run the ball more. Ingram's hurt again, what's new? Uh?

540
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Speaker 1: And let's let's see him run the ball, because I've

541
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Speaker 1: seen him regress over the last couple of weeks and

542
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,159
Speaker 1: and and that's not a good sign. And that just

543
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:12,120
Speaker 1: makes Shermer and the coaching staff worse when when their star,

544
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Speaker 1: who at least we could always lean on, is not

545
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Speaker 1: producing now as well. And Daniel Jones fumbles, you know,

546
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Speaker 1: he had twenty in college, and how he's at how

547
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 1: many already this year? That's got to be worked on.

548
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Speaker 1: But like I said, let's if they wint a question,

549
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,119
Speaker 1: where where did you find Daniel Jones's fumble number in college?

550
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Speaker 1: Because I looked long and hard for that. I couldn't

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Speaker 1: find it. In the three years he had twenty fumbles

552
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Speaker 1: and I think he lost thirteen. Where where did you

553
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:41,439
Speaker 1: find that stat? I looked everyway. I looked up at

554
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Speaker 1: you know, because the Sea who had it? Who had it?

555
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,679
Speaker 1: I looked at ESPN, I looked at football who I

556
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Speaker 1: googled it. I just googled his stats for a duke

557
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 1: and they gave it was the three years he played

558
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Speaker 1: he started or he was that how many games it was?

559
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Speaker 1: And it chose uh fum Boles and lost fumble. So

560
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 1: is some of them that they didn't lose, but it shows,

561
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,919
Speaker 1: it said, I think it was nineteen or twenty and

562
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 1: he lost thirteen of them. But yeah, I looked at

563
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 1: the beginning of the season because that was a problem

564
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Speaker 1: coming out of school and it's fumble itis, and I

565
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 1: didn't think it would be that big of a deal,

566
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Speaker 1: but apparently it is. So but yeah, you're checking that.

567
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 1: But that's that's where I'm standing as a Giants fan,

568
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 1: and but it is. I don't think they fire either

569
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 1: coach if either his teams lost yet, but man, well

570
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Speaker 1: I would love sure. I know Schumer's not Gruden and

571
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 1: he's not gonna go do the black hole like that,

572
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 1: but come on, let's see some excitement from the coach.

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Speaker 1: All right, that's all, Thank you. I appreciate the call, Bud.

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Speaker 1: I looked long and hard to find Jones's fumble stats

575
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Speaker 1: in college and I couldn't find them anywhere. And watching

576
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Speaker 1: the tape of him at Duke, I did not see

577
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 1: that as an issue. No one talked about that with

578
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Speaker 1: him coming out. That was not mentioned once by anybody

579
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:56,119
Speaker 1: we had talking about him before or after the draft. No,

580
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 1: I wasn't mentioned at all now that now that he's

581
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,439
Speaker 1: doing it, now it's being brought up. But those are

582
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,959
Speaker 1: things you can fix. I mean really heard somebody say

583
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 1: the other day he must have really small hands. I

584
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,440
Speaker 1: mean well, but people talked about that with Donald coming

585
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 1: out too, that he could he fumbles the ball if

586
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,400
Speaker 1: almost well, he's he's lost one fumble this year. Yeah,

587
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 1: it's just learning. It's again it's it's it's keeping too

588
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,639
Speaker 1: hands in theble, but more importantly, it's developing that sense

589
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 1: in the pocket of when people are around you. You

590
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Listen, it's this game for those

591
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 1: who have not played it, and that's a lot of

592
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 1: you understand. You have no idea how fast this game is.

593
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 1: I'm telling you. You get on that field and things happen,

594
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,919
Speaker 1: and it's just a learning curve. It. It doesn't just

595
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 1: like happen overnight. And I know that these are bad

596
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 1: things and they're but they're fixable things, and they're gonna

597
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 1: get better. They're gonna get better because that internal clock

598
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 1: that we talked about the last couple of weeks, it

599
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,680
Speaker 1: will get better. Protection will get better, scheme will get

600
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 1: better when they can rely on him doing certain things,

601
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 1: so you know, and listen, it's tough, you know around here, guys,

602
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 1: this this is tough. I mean, this is an organization

603
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 1: it's not used to this, and this is a fan

604
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 1: base that's not used to this. Unless you were really

605
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 1: a good Giants fan and stuck with him in the seventies.

606
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't I didn't know about them back

607
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,159
Speaker 1: in the seventies. But from what I've been told, it

608
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 1: was bad. So um, if I was not bad, yeah,

609
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 1: I didn't play in the seventies, by the way. I

610
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,880
Speaker 1: played in the eighties, but not in the seventies. So well,

611
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 1: you were in the AFL at that point, right just

612
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 1: after just after John oh one I three died four

613
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 1: or five on three. Now, let's try Scott in New

614
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,200
Speaker 1: Mexico online, Scott. Let's give it a role, buddy. There

615
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 1: you go. Okay, Well, I hope I remember my question. Hey, listen,

616
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 1: trust me, and if you don't, we'll just hang up

617
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 1: on you. It's fine, okay. Uh. I was going to

618
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 1: ask about the Giants defense and also the Jets defense,

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Speaker 1: and I had one other point. Sure, According to Bob Papa,

620
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 1: when I was listening to the postgame live, he had

621
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 1: said that the Giants defense, it's like giving up already

622
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 1: five games of over four good yards and we've played nine.

623
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Speaker 1: You know, statistically, if this is the worst the Giants

624
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 1: has ever given up in that time span in their history, Okay,

625
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 1: that was just curious. I do not I'm sorry, I don't.

626
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 1: Blood Yeah, because it seems like an inordinate number of

627
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 1: yards given up. Four hundred yards in five games is

628
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 1: is a crazy number and that ideal. Well, I remember

629
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 1: coming into the game last week, it was four it

630
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 1: was four weeks, and it was four times they have

631
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 1: given up over four hundred yards. He said. It was

632
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 1: the fifth opponent to top four hundred yards and also

633
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 1: the fourth time in five games that they've scored less

634
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 1: than three hundred yards in total offense. Crazy statistics? Did

635
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 1: you average nine offense? So if the trend continues, and

636
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 1: going up against I'm always nervous. We go up against

637
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 1: the great Williams defense because he always has new wrinkles

638
00:29:55,160 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 1: for whatever you're going to do. If if if the

639
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 1: Giants don't do well, and say, I'm hoping it doesn't happen,

640
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 1: to say they lose my real basic question, and I'll

641
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 1: be glad to take it off the area is what

642
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 1: do you think the repercussions are going to be for

643
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 1: the Giants as far as defense? Uh, do you think

644
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 1: heads will roll or do you think they'll just go

645
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 1: through this season with the by coming up and try

646
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 1: to improve after that. I have no we have no idea. Well,

647
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 1: we don't know, Okay, we can't comment. We don't know that.

648
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 1: Nobody know that it really does it. It's hard, but

649
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 1: I know it will be the ladder of the two.

650
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 1: It might be, okay. And I was just curious because

651
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 1: I was, you know, sort of alarmed by the number

652
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 1: of yards they were giving up for such a short

653
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 1: period of time in the season. That's why I was

654
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 1: really asking the question because something has to be done.

655
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 1: I don't think they were going to keep its status quo,

656
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 1: and that's why I was asking the question. But I'll

657
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 1: be interesting your comments later on. Guys didn't have a

658
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 1: nice waker and thanks. I'll just say this, and I

659
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 1: mentioned this over the course of the year, the Giants

660
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 1: art of the year trying to do what James Betcher

661
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 1: wants to do. Just look at how tow Bowl Todd

662
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 1: Bowles calls his defense in Tampa. They play a ton

663
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 1: of man to man and they blitz more than any

664
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 1: other team in the league. That's where James Betcher comes from.

665
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 1: That's what he wants to do. That's what the Giants

666
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 1: did against the Cowboys. The Cowboys lit him up. That's

667
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 1: what the Giants tried to do against the Bills. Josh

668
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 1: Allen lit him up. They tried to do that first

669
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 1: half against Tampa Bay. Jameis Winston to Mike Evans lit

670
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 1: him up since then, and this is one of the

671
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 1: reasons they won that game in Tampa. Starting in that

672
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 1: second half, they went to a lot more zone defense,

673
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 1: they went to a much less frequent blitzing, and they

674
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 1: tried to play more conservatively. Now, in some games that's

675
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 1: been effective. In other games, it has not, and a

676
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 1: lot of it has to do with if you're gonna

677
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 1: play zone and run defenses like that. For one, you

678
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 1: have to tackle well, which was an issue in a

679
00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 1: few games and they didn't. Number Two, everyone's got to

680
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 1: be in the same page because if you're playing a

681
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 1: specific defense and even just one out of the five

682
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 1: guys in the defensive backfield is not in the right spot,

683
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 1: it makes everybody look foolish and like they don't know

684
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 1: what they're doing. And that's what's happened on a lot

685
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 1: of those big plays the last couple of weeks, or

686
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 1: vice versa. If one man is playing man and the

687
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 1: rest is playing zone, big things happen. I think you're right.

688
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 1: I mean, you have to be and and that's what

689
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 1: that's what Antoine Bethea. All these veterans are getting at.

690
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 1: They're saying, guys, listen, you gotta lock in exactly. This

691
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 1: is week ten now. Okay, no one's a rookie anymore.

692
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 1: You really shouldn't be you. You just said this your

693
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,959
Speaker 1: week ten in the NFL plus four weeks in preseason

694
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 1: plus the off season. We should know a little bit

695
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 1: about how this defense is run now. And this is

696
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 1: not complicated stuff like go play cover four. Not hard, No,

697
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 1: it's and and listen, I think that you know, I

698
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 1: know we're talking about certain players here, but in they're young,

699
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 1: and we give them a little bit of a leash.

700
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 1: But we can't give them that of a leash because

701
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 1: there are there's some accountability issues here. You know, just

702
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 1: because you're a number one draft pick or a number

703
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 1: three draft pick or whoever you are, doesn't mean that

704
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 1: you're you you have this, I mean, you're, you have

705
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 1: this privilege. You go out there, you just you gotta

706
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 1: you gotta play man. You gotta go out and do

707
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 1: what you gotta do and understand. And if you don't

708
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 1: understand it, get some help, get some help underget have

709
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 1: somebody help you understand it. And again, it's how a

710
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 1: hard game to play. And John and I have never

711
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: played defensive back, but I will tell you that you're

712
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 1: it's a tough position. I played dB on East thirty

713
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 1: first Street plenty as a kid trying to coming down

714
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 1: the street because my other fat friends that I tried

715
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 1: to keep up with running up and down the black top.

716
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 1: The game has gotten faster, they drive faster down thirty

717
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 1: one Street. Now just a little bit, just a little bit.

718
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 1: I'm obviously being sarcastic, but I think that you know,

719
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 1: this is the problem, and these are worthy the big

720
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 1: chunk plays and the big plays are coming from his

721
00:33:56,000 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 1: miscommunication and assignments. There they're they're missed designs or what

722
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 1: they are, and then they should be correctable. And again

723
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 1: to my larger point, I kind of lost track of

724
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 1: where I was going with that. Betcher's willing to change strategies.

725
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 1: What do you want to see out of out of

726
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 1: a cord where you were talking about how he wants

727
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 1: he wants to build, right, but this is but this

728
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 1: is my point though, Like so many times coaches will

729
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:18,800
Speaker 1: be stubborn right, and they I say, they say, this

730
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 1: is how I coordinate, this is how I play, this

731
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 1: is what I'm gonna do, and if it doesn't work,

732
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 1: that's the player's fault, is not mine. I'm going to

733
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,320
Speaker 1: coordinate the way I want to court. And to Betcher's credit,

734
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 1: he saw what he was doing wasn't working and he

735
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 1: made an adjustment and he tried to change. But it's

736
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 1: not working. Well here's the problem though, what's left? Well

737
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 1: what that's that's my point. So I know people try

738
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 1: to as the coaches because well I ad meant that

739
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 1: as more as as more of a ret question. But

740
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 1: I'm happy you made my point for me, which is

741
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 1: I don't know what the answer is. Like you can

742
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 1: sit here and say, well, why don't you try man?

743
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 1: Oh they did? Why don't you try to pit more?

744
00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 1: Oh they did? Why don't you try to do this? Oh?

745
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 1: They did? And nothing's working when you try a bunch

746
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 1: of different stuff and none of it works. It's hard

747
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: for me to point the finger at the coach in

748
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: that situation. That's all I'm saying. Let me throw a

749
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 1: little bit of happiness on this happiness because it really

750
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,839
Speaker 1: really should, right. I mean, let's just let's just kind

751
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 1: of going because I just thought of something. Let's look

752
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:23,320
Speaker 1: at these last three games. Okay, can the Giants have

753
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 1: Could the Giants won these last three games? In all reality? Absolutely?

754
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 1: I mean there's a there's a we could go to

755
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 1: every one of these Arizona, Detroit, and Dallas and there's

756
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 1: a we could have a good argument that the Giants

757
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 1: could have won those three games. Okay, there's a little

758
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,320
Speaker 1: kind of like I seen that. It's kind this tells

759
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 1: me there, listen, there's they're young. I know we keep

760
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 1: telling this, but this is this team has to learn

761
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 1: how to win. They're getting close. They're getting close. I

762
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 1: mean you may not look like it, I mean, because

763
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,240
Speaker 1: it's bad, there's some bad stuff going on that defense,

764
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:01,720
Speaker 1: but this team is they're getting close to quote call Banks,

765
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 1: there were a few plays away from being a few

766
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: plays away. That was the quote that called thanks you.

767
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe they're they're gaining on it. Then they're gaining

768
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 1: on a few of those plays. Two O one nine

769
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 1: three nine four five one three two oh one nine

770
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,879
Speaker 1: three nine four five one three. Let's go to phill

771
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 1: in North Carolina. He's up next day. Phil. Hey, I

772
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 1: just wanted to give you guys kudos for you and

773
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 1: Jeff and uh, Paul and Lance kicking our calls in

774
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:32,919
Speaker 1: these difficult times and uh and letting us discuss things

775
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 1: and stuff. So and you're very good with dialogue and

776
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 1: kind of listening to us and coming back with where

777
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 1: you're inside. Is so thank you. I appreciate that. Yeah,

778
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 1: it's it's it's great therapy here. Um, so a couple

779
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:49,280
Speaker 1: of things. Um, you know, my my my favorite conversation

780
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 1: is always draft positional value. And this week and I

781
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,320
Speaker 1: feel a little better. I came off the ledge since

782
00:36:56,760 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 1: we've drafted Daniel Jones because that was a huge Donald fan.

783
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,839
Speaker 1: And you know, so I'm a little excited to watch

784
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: these two guys kind of you know, play on the

785
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,919
Speaker 1: stand too, so that I think that's a big cool

786
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:12,320
Speaker 1: so uh and uh, you know, I am disappointed in

787
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:14,800
Speaker 1: Sick Kuan. I know I'm probably tough on him, but

788
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 1: I know he's hurt too. But you know, I see

789
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 1: some bad habits, you know, coming back that I thought

790
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 1: he kind of fixed me at the tail end. And

791
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:25,800
Speaker 1: you know, I was wondering if you guys see that

792
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 1: habits you're you're talking about, uh, lack of power running,

793
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 1: you know, like dancing. You know, he's a big dude man,

794
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 1: so uh, you know, I wish he would show is

795
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 1: is you know, use that by power he has instead

796
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,919
Speaker 1: of just kind of dancing around sometimes when when there's

797
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 1: nothing there. I think there have been times or maybe

798
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 1: he's been a little hesitant around the whole in the middle.

799
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 1: I think that's fair. I also don't think he's means

800
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,800
Speaker 1: a reason he does not have that explosiveness off that

801
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 1: bad And remember his ankles, and his ankles are are

802
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 1: a necessity, right, I mean for what the way he

803
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 1: runs and dances and moves. I mean that's kind of

804
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: so he's all about change of direction, That's exactly now.

805
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 1: You do see a lot of like I'll tell you what,

806
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott last week, I think he has gotten a

807
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 1: lot faster. He's been hitting that hole like, I mean,

808
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 1: it was he looked really good the last couple of goodness.

809
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:25,959
Speaker 1: I mean I was just like I was like, Wow,

810
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 1: I didn't I've never seen that explosives through the hole

811
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 1: like him before his change of direction looked better. And

812
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,439
Speaker 1: then he would just truck guys for three yrs after

813
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,839
Speaker 1: contact like this combination of quickness and I love how

814
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 1: he gets low and gets those legs and just right,

815
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:40,840
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what that's the power that I was

816
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 1: talking about. You know, I don't think that that that

817
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,359
Speaker 1: se Kwan can do that right now because I think

818
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 1: right I think he's hurting and he's gonna he's a

819
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 1: guy who's gonna want to be out there. You know,

820
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 1: he's gonna do everything he can to be out there,

821
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 1: and he's also not gonna help from his offensive line.

822
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 1: The last there's no question. And any of us have

823
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 1: been injured, you know, in sports and things like that

824
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 1: or just everyday life, just know how abilitating it can be.

825
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 1: And it's frustrating because you know what you can do,

826
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,439
Speaker 1: but but your body won't let you do it. Yeah,

827
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,439
Speaker 1: you know, and until you have to tell your body

828
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 1: who's boss, which sometimes you do, right, I mean, that's

829
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 1: a that's a football term. You just imagine, imagine, imagine

830
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: when lands feels like when you're trying to get something

831
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 1: off the top shelf. He thinks he can do but

832
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 1: but but he just can't get off that guy. Okay,

833
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:22,919
Speaker 1: two or two things real quick, and took the last

834
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 1: one off you brought up I'm a spensive Pulley fan. Um,

835
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 1: you know I don't. Last week and and Lance said

836
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 1: Po has just as much you know, experience, but I

837
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 1: think Polly has a better concept of past uh you know, protection,

838
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 1: angles and so forth. And I predict this game there

839
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 1: will be less of these free runners running inside inside

840
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 1: and taking free shots at Daniels. I'll tell you I

841
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 1: will be curious to see if they handle some of

842
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 1: those stunts and some of those delayed blitz is a

843
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 1: little bit better. I think you make a good point.

844
00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 1: And I think Holy showed he could do that well

845
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 1: last year. I want to see how he does it

846
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 1: with this group this year. Right. And the last thing,

847
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 1: I'll take it off the air that you know we're

848
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 1: talking about scheme and and and you know, and and

849
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,839
Speaker 1: you're John was saying about you know, man, a man

850
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 1: isn't working, and zone is working, and and and you know,

851
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: I you know, I coached football, was a defense coordinator

852
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 1: eight years and and I in the beginning, I had

853
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 1: this ego tendency to make really complex uh things that

854
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 1: were over the kid's heads. And then I had to

855
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 1: tone it down and it worked much better. But my

856
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:37,399
Speaker 1: bigger point here is that, yeah, it's schemes, but it's

857
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 1: also technique, and perhaps maybe our teaching of technique is

858
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,360
Speaker 1: not good enough because in the zone, like if you

859
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 1: have one guy is super tight on a man and

860
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 1: the other guy is is playing two loose, then you know,

861
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 1: it almost seems like there's bigger gaps in the zone.

862
00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 1: And so everyone has to kind of understand what how

863
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 1: much space do I give somebody that's in my zone

864
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 1: so that I'm not maybe right on him, but I

865
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 1: have enough reaction time to get to him. So I

866
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 1: think that that'll I'll take off their thanks, guys, in

867
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: jury your weekends, no problem. And look, and I think

868
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:16,320
Speaker 1: if you want to pinpoint something, I think that's a

869
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 1: better thing to pinpoint than the actual schemes that they're playing. Sure, sure,

870
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 1: and and that and this is all this is a

871
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 1: learned trade, right, I mean, this is a new defense

872
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,439
Speaker 1: for some of those guys. James Betcher has been calling

873
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 1: this defense for a long time understands it. You know,

874
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 1: guys like uh Marcus Golden has played in this defense

875
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,240
Speaker 1: before um and by the way, they could be coaching

876
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 1: them the exact right way. It also doesn't mean that

877
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 1: the players are able. We don't adapt adopt what they're

878
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 1: being taught. Yeah, so it's it's all it's all about learning.

879
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 1: It's all about getting better at your craft. As they say,

880
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,359
Speaker 1: it really is two oh one nine three nine four

881
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 1: five one three. But yeah, I do think I think, frankly,

882
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 1: it's an epidemic across the NFL. I don't think guys

883
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 1: know how to play his own defense. In the middle

884
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 1: of the field. All you see is passes being completed,

885
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 1: backers and safe and yeah, I think that's okay, I

886
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 1: thank you. I just say I think it's more of

887
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 1: the linebackers and safety than it is the outside cornerback.

888
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 1: That's my point. I absolutely And I think it has

889
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 1: to do with like you would think that safety is

890
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 1: because that's just what they do. That's like in that's

891
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 1: the in their DNA, you know, being that that last

892
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 1: level of coverage. I think it's more the linebacker than

893
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 1: anything that this team is. That the linebackers in this

894
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 1: league you know they're there. Do you would think they

895
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 1: would be better at covering because they're faster, and that's

896
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 1: what they did in college, right, That's what they did

897
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 1: in college. Yeah, but they're not not and because you

898
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 1: know what, listen, they're going up against elite receivers and

899
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 1: tight ends more importantly. And it's funny, by the way,

900
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 1: because I asked Carl Banks about this on our Giants

901
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: Rewind podcast, which, by the way, you can't find on

902
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 1: giants dot Com, the Giants Mobile, Apple and if your

903
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 1: other favorite podcast platforms, And I said, Carl, why did

904
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 1: guys have so much trouble and linebackers specifically covering the

905
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 1: middle of the field and zone because so many teams

906
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 1: don't play man anymore because with all the rub routes

907
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 1: and stuff, it's hard to play man some what teams

908
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 1: plays on, right, if you don't have the guys you

909
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:05,919
Speaker 1: gotta plays on and he goes John. It's a big

910
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 1: part of film study in the instincts from it because

911
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 1: there should be tells, tendencies, cues where if you see

912
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 1: a team wind up a certain way or one guy

913
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 1: runs around a certain way, that should key you in

914
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 1: that all right, this route combination is coming. I need

915
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 1: to drop myself back into this passing lane to prevent

916
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 1: the slant behind me, to prevent the deep incut, whatever

917
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:35,240
Speaker 1: the route might happen to be. And he just doesn't

918
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 1: think these guys are either being taught properly or properly

919
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 1: able to absorb that complex part of their job, which

920
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 1: is understanding, anticipating, and reading route combinations which puts them

921
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:50,879
Speaker 1: in the right place and at the right depth. Two

922
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 1: alter what quarterbacks are trying to do in the middle

923
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 1: of the field. Yeah, it's tough. It's tough to comment

924
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 1: on that because we're not in the meeting room, we're

925
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 1: not at practice. That's why I asked Carl Banks, because

926
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 1: I have no idea, um and it's you know, if anything,

927
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 1: it's probably collectively a problem across the board. Maybe who knows.

928
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:12,840
Speaker 1: I don't know. And again that's not the Giants. That

929
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,240
Speaker 1: was a question in general, it's in general the whole league.

930
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm gonna listen these guys. You know, I

931
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 1: can only speak from experience as far as preparation goes on,

932
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 1: and you know, the more you prepare, the better off

933
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 1: you're going to be and succeed in this league, and

934
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 1: even at the punting position, right. I mean I never

935
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 1: had to study defenses and things like that, but I

936
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:34,800
Speaker 1: still had to do as much as I could to

937
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 1: prepare myself to play. These guys have to do the

938
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 1: same thing. They've got to do a lot more than

939
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 1: I ever did. And sometimes, you know, collectively, I'm not

940
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 1: talking about just the giants here, as John said, we're

941
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 1: talking about the whole league. There are guys that take

942
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 1: shortcuts and they think that their ability because then when

943
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 1: when they come and they were in college, they could

944
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 1: get they could get by by their ability making plays

945
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,919
Speaker 1: without kind of studying stuff. When you get to this level,

946
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 1: everybody's pretty much the same as you now, and some

947
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 1: of them are better her and you are worse. You

948
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 1: gotta you gotta find something that's gonna make you better.

949
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 1: If that's more preparation, then you do it. If it's

950
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 1: something more, you put ten more pounds in the weight room,

951
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:11,839
Speaker 1: or you run after practice or whatever is there's something

952
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 1: there you can do to always make yourself better to

953
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:17,160
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958
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 1: go to Lennon, Columbia, Maryland. He's up next, lenn what's

959
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 1: going on, buddy, big guy? Hey guys, good to see

960
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 1: the other night. Yes? Absolutely, Yeah, Hey, Jeff, So, so

961
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 1: what you're saying is I may sound like a big guy,

962
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 1: but I'm not a big guy. No. I just thought

963
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 1: I figured you were like this big old grizzly looking

964
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 1: like six ft five Atlanta. Apparently you also sound like

965
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 1: you're from Pennsylvania. So there you go. I want I

966
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:56,240
Speaker 1: want you to know him right at the middleweight limits.

967
00:45:57,760 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: It was good seeing you. It was really good, Senior.

968
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,360
Speaker 1: And it's funny because I know you're you're probably a

969
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,399
Speaker 1: lot of people the same way. You know, people sound

970
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 1: different than they look sometimes, and you just look better

971
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 1: than you sounded. I guess give me a confident. That's

972
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 1: the coach in me. That's the coach in Jeff. I

973
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 1: sound better on the phone exactly. All right, go ahead, Um,

974
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 1: here we go. Hey. Comment and comment by um Scott,

975
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 1: where he was trying to trying to place the yardage

976
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 1: total yardage against in these last four games. And I

977
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 1: don't know how we read across our history, and I've

978
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:33,359
Speaker 1: been watching them for a long time. But I'll tell

979
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 1: you what. If you want to see some bad numbers

980
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 1: across a year, a whole year, go go back to

981
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 1: the nineteen sixty six and the numbers of yardage against

982
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 1: the just unbelievable. That was. That was bad stuff in

983
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 1: in the and in the seventies. You know, some some

984
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 1: people have said they haven't looked through the seventies. I

985
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,879
Speaker 1: was there for those years and things were pretty bad.

986
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 1: But Jeff, let's nail it down to the last four games.

987
00:46:57,920 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 1: I just you know, I want to say, this is

988
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 1: to me, this is this is a bad stretch. I

989
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 1: thought we could come out of this stretch three and one.

990
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 1: Now we're playing our fourth game now against the Jets,

991
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 1: and let's let's not downplay. Let's not downplay the magnitude

992
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 1: of this game. You know, we're not going you know,

993
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 1: we're not going to the playoffs, and we're not going

994
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 1: to the super Bowl. But I think one thing, the

995
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 1: ownership of this team, the older ownership of this team,

996
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 1: the Matter family has always known, don't don't lose the

997
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:31,919
Speaker 1: back pages of the newspaper the next morning. Don't don't

998
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 1: lose the headlines on the back pages. This is this

999
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,320
Speaker 1: is what I'm not saying. Heads are gonna roll on Monday.

1000
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:40,360
Speaker 1: I'm not anywhere near that, anywhere near that, But this is,

1001
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:45,320
Speaker 1: this is important to this organization and hopefully hopefully that

1002
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 1: translates to the players. And I get the feeling, uh

1003
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 1: that Pat knows it, and uh, I like his speech

1004
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,439
Speaker 1: earlier in the week. You know, put up a shut

1005
00:47:56,520 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 1: up here, Let's let's do something because just just you know,

1006
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 1: picking Baker for a second, if he doesn't have a

1007
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:06,439
Speaker 1: really good game this week, he's not going to start

1008
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 1: after that, after the break, he's not going to start.

1009
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 1: He's going to have to have a good game. There

1010
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:13,800
Speaker 1: are going to be some people who are going to

1011
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 1: get devoted if this doesn't go well. Hey, listen thee defense. Um.

1012
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 1: I remember during the Parcels era, and I was a

1013
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 1: big fan. It was easy to be a big fan

1014
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 1: of the three four then because we will win it.

1015
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 1: But um, you know, I wish it was simplified. Jesus.

1016
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 1: A lot of maneuvering, there's a lot of rotation, and

1017
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 1: you know last week which drove me, crazy, guys. Um,

1018
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 1: when we went into a four three, which we do

1019
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 1: quite often. As you know, Remember you don't go into

1020
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 1: a four three, you go into a four two when

1021
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 1: you play Nickel. It isn't a fourth Okay, okay, Well,

1022
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 1: I want to talk about the defensive ends. When you

1023
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 1: go to the four two, when you put Carter and

1024
00:48:57,040 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 1: x Men as your defensive ends, I mean, you know

1025
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:04,359
Speaker 1: it's gonna be the easiest one ever had in his life.

1026
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 1: Well then, and I think and I think that was

1027
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 1: a good move by Dallas. They would come out because

1028
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 1: what what teams will do. They'll try to get you

1029
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 1: into the into the personnel they want and then try

1030
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 1: to run plays off that. Right, So by the Cowboys

1031
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 1: putting three wide receivers at it forces the Giants to

1032
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 1: go into their stub package, which means those linebackers go

1033
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:24,319
Speaker 1: down to the defensive line position and then they ran

1034
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 1: against your nickel. So yeah, I agree, I think that

1035
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 1: was a bad matchup. And one thing zimon Z and

1036
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 1: he's flashed a little bit. He's had a lot of issues.

1037
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 1: Said in the edge of this year, we've seen him

1038
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 1: get trapped on to at that edge a bunch of

1039
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 1: times and Remember it wasn't necessarily the point of attack

1040
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 1: against Dallas either. It was those backside guys, whether it

1041
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 1: was the linebacker or backside defensive end. They were not

1042
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 1: disciplined and staying in those cutback lanes. That's where Elliot

1043
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 1: killed them last week. And he knew it too. Yeah

1044
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 1: all right, let me let me just say one more

1045
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 1: thing about the three four and then unless you go

1046
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:55,239
Speaker 1: and I'll say, go Giants and we win the game. Um,

1047
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:58,439
Speaker 1: you know, if we're gonna play at three or four guys,

1048
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 1: and I'm okay with it. I'm not a big fan,

1049
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 1: but I'm okay with it. Look, stay in a three four,

1050
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 1: put Tom Wilson into those tackle williams uh and Lawrence

1051
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:12,720
Speaker 1: as your defensive ends. Uh, you know, just just stay

1052
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:16,400
Speaker 1: in that three four, stay in that base and play it.

1053
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 1: And and let's let these guys learn from there. I

1054
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 1: want to. I want to simplify it. You know, seeing

1055
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 1: these guys running on and off the field, last second

1056
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 1: type things. We even do it on offense. You know,

1057
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 1: come on, guys, let's simplify this game plan. Let's go

1058
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 1: out butt heads with these guys. Win a football game,

1059
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 1: win those back pages, Giant It's always good to beat

1060
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 1: the Jets. I don't care if you're playing them in

1061
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 1: checkers or basketball or whatever. It's good the next morning

1062
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 1: to be able to say you beat the Jets. Let's

1063
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,879
Speaker 1: go Giants, say we'll talk again. Good to see, Good

1064
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 1: to see. And the other option the Giants have two

1065
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 1: if they do want to, you know, get the extra

1066
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 1: dB on the field when you go to that, you

1067
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 1: know for to nickel package or sub package, wherever you

1068
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 1: want to call it. You could always if you really

1069
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:03,279
Speaker 1: want to protect against the run, that's when you could

1070
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 1: use Leonard Williams as an end if you want. That

1071
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 1: gives you a little bit more muscle upfront in terms

1072
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 1: of stopping the run. Yeah, once he gets a little

1073
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:13,360
Speaker 1: bit more into this defense, getting used to it. I mean,

1074
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 1: I thought he did pretty good last week, being his

1075
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 1: first week back, and I think that that's what you're

1076
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 1: gonna get out of Leonard Williams. Um I think when

1077
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 1: you if he's gonna play to a higher level than

1078
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 1: you'll be excited because he had a couple of pressures

1079
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 1: in the game, but no sacks. That's kind of what

1080
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 1: he does, and he can he can play all all

1081
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 1: four those positions. So I mean it's he can whatever

1082
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 1: he needs to do. He they'll they'll put him in there.

1083
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:33,879
Speaker 1: But man, I'll tell you what you want to talk about.

1084
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 1: Rotation land wait till this week. Wait do you see

1085
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 1: how Greg Williams rotates his defensive line. I mean they

1086
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 1: are in and out like like a turnstyle. Boom boom,

1087
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:45,840
Speaker 1: boom boom. Let's go to Jamal and Dallas online for

1088
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 1: he's up next a Jamal? How's up? Man? How are you? Jeff?

1089
00:51:55,200 --> 00:52:00,080
Speaker 1: They didn't we didn't gonna coach bar yet, like I know,

1090
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 1: and and listen, I'm off for I'm off for Florida

1091
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 1: State Higher and Dion Sanders really come on? Oh man,

1092
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 1: well you know what you you got a good point there.

1093
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 1: But I was thought, don't say well, I like usually

1094
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 1: I try to adhere to the if you don't have

1095
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 1: anything nice to say, don't say it at all. But

1096
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 1: if they think, if they're under the impression that Dion

1097
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 1: Sanders going gonna go in there and worked twelve hour

1098
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:32,359
Speaker 1: days for sixteen hour days as a head coach, they

1099
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 1: are out of their damn mind. Rest Yeah, oh well,

1100
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 1: so so call or this week I talked to uh

1101
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 1: Ross and Um, Peter, just just my thought is sure

1102
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 1: the play caller and the head coach, Um, what is

1103
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 1: your thought with that? I know when was there, he

1104
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:58,719
Speaker 1: had Gilbride, he had Snags as his coordinators, and he

1105
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 1: just facilitated the team. Team man is the team and

1106
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 1: the players and if he had to get involved with stuff,

1107
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:07,360
Speaker 1: he did. What is your thoughts with Sherman or gentleman

1108
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 1: telling the hey after this vibe, maybe we should let

1109
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 1: Shoola do what we hired Shoola to do, which is

1110
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:18,399
Speaker 1: coordinate the offense, because I feel like in the game,

1111
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:21,320
Speaker 1: especially in the fourth quarter, it's too much going on

1112
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:24,360
Speaker 1: for Sherman. You think about challenging to play, trying to

1113
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 1: get play calls out, and like Lynn was saying, people

1114
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 1: are coming on off the field, It's like come on,

1115
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:32,400
Speaker 1: like you're it's doing too much. Too much is going on,

1116
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:35,840
Speaker 1: and we got a young quarterback, Like Maybeula just focus

1117
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 1: on the play calling and then Sherman will focus on

1118
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 1: developing this court, the young corey that we have. I

1119
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 1: think we'll have a better successful rate in the long term.

1120
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 1: That's just my opinion. What do you listen. I think

1121
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 1: that certain guys can do it. I think that a

1122
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 1: guy like Andy Reid. I mean, listen, I don't think

1123
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 1: there's anybody who's gonna take the play calling away from him, right,

1124
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 1: But I think that it's a young coach when you

1125
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:00,399
Speaker 1: do have and I think you break up a good

1126
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 1: point when you do have a lot of things going

1127
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:05,359
Speaker 1: on in the sidelines and you're not that established head

1128
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:06,879
Speaker 1: coach that's been in the league for a long time

1129
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,840
Speaker 1: that can understand then you know, then I don't know,

1130
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:13,319
Speaker 1: I just for me. If you if the coach thinks

1131
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 1: he can do it, then let him do it, you know.

1132
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 1: But I think that he's getting enough. He's getting a

1133
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 1: lot of help from Mike Schula to begin with putting

1134
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:21,880
Speaker 1: the game plan and things like that together. But I

1135
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:23,839
Speaker 1: think you bring up a good point. When things start

1136
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:25,800
Speaker 1: to happen in the fourth quarter, when there's things that

1137
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:29,320
Speaker 1: are really going through it is very difficult, in my opinion,

1138
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:31,880
Speaker 1: to do both and until you can prove that you

1139
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 1: can do it well. I would be the other way.

1140
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:36,360
Speaker 1: I would have a coordinator do the call and and

1141
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 1: and Jamal real quick, real quick. Generally speaking, I think

1142
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 1: I would prefer it to be separated. I'm with you,

1143
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 1: but I will say this, I think Charmer is an

1144
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:46,279
Speaker 1: excellent play caller, and I think he's a coordinates a

1145
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:48,920
Speaker 1: very nice offense. I see guys open on this offense.

1146
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 1: He uses play, actually moves the quarterback. I like the

1147
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 1: way his offense is run. This is not a situation

1148
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:56,840
Speaker 1: like when Macadoo is here and I didn't like the scheme.

1149
00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 1: I do like this scheme. Um, I think it works.

1150
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 1: So I think there is a balance to be found there.

1151
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 1: And frankly, we can all say we think Cohen plays

1152
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 1: and managing the game is affecting things. There's really no

1153
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 1: way for us to know that. So I'm not gonna

1154
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 1: make a comment on that, yes or no, because I

1155
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:12,360
Speaker 1: just don't know. If we don't have headset on, I

1156
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:15,839
Speaker 1: can't tell you. But that's where I'm coming from on that. Well,

1157
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 1: So I thought that we were talking about Sam Bill

1158
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 1: and I'm excited to see if this kid can play

1159
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 1: or not play. You know, he's been out for away

1160
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 1: a year and a half, two years. On mom myself,

1161
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:27,320
Speaker 1: I don't know who's gonna be in for Dean J. Baker.

1162
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:30,839
Speaker 1: I think myself him in forenor Jenkins. And my thought

1163
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 1: is this, you know, last week kind of mess on

1164
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 1: some tackles. Now, his effort was not there by any means.

1165
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:41,839
Speaker 1: I mean, two of those touchdowns I'm blaming on him

1166
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 1: because he could have either pushed the guy out of

1167
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 1: bounce slow the guy, but we gotta have a game

1168
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:49,760
Speaker 1: tackle or something could have happened to prevent Michael Gallant

1169
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 1: from jumping over him, or the tighten and jarn Wyn

1170
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 1: running that running that ball and all of a sudden

1171
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 1: he just puts a flag football hand out and just

1172
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:00,400
Speaker 1: try to attack him and John was just through it.

1173
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 1: So I'm kind of thinking the hope that Sam Bill

1174
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 1: is probably being rotated with Jenkins because the effort from

1175
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 1: last week was definitely app well, I think there was

1176
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 1: some questionable effort, okay um, and I think that he'll

1177
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:20,200
Speaker 1: probably tell you the same thing, but I will tell

1178
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:22,919
Speaker 1: you that Jenkins is not coming off the field. There's

1179
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 1: there's I mean, you're not gonna put You're not gonna

1180
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 1: put Bell and then have DeAndre Baker, two rookies in that. Well,

1181
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:33,840
Speaker 1: he's I mean, Sam Bill is not a rookie by numbers,

1182
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 1: but he's a rookie, right, I mean he's a he's

1183
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:38,840
Speaker 1: a rookie, So you're not gonna take Jenkins off the

1184
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:41,759
Speaker 1: field unless you have a purpose to discipline for him

1185
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 1: for something, and he's not. But he has four interceptions

1186
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 1: on the season. He is your best player there. Um,

1187
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:50,440
Speaker 1: can you play better? Certainly he can. But I don't

1188
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:52,799
Speaker 1: think that's gonna happen. No, I don't think so either.

1189
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:57,359
Speaker 1: I think if they were gonna pull the trigger, well,

1190
00:56:57,560 --> 00:56:59,399
Speaker 1: I think if they were like, all right, well we're

1191
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 1: gonna put b in the starting lineup, they would have

1192
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 1: traded Jenkins at the trade deadline. Sure, and they they

1193
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 1: were ready to make a move and go with the

1194
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 1: the the youth, that's what they would have done. But no,

1195
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:10,879
Speaker 1: Jenny Jenkins still might be the best or second best

1196
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 1: defensive player on this team. Yeah, what it is? Yeah,

1197
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 1: I mean there's they're still trying to win, folks. So

1198
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 1: substitute for experience right now? Might you see Sam Buell

1199
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 1: get into the mix and maybe give one of those

1200
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 1: two guys a blow here or there to see what

1201
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 1: Bill has? Yeah, baby, you can maybe see that, folks.

1202
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, at two and seven, a lot

1203
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 1: of things can happen, right, I mean, there's gonna be

1204
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 1: a lot of things that just kind of just appear

1205
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 1: because of the circumstances, right, I mean, you look at

1206
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 1: the numbers. You're in your two and seven, you got

1207
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 1: a pretty much a zero chance of making the playoffs

1208
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 1: when you look at these numbers that we look at

1209
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 1: and and it's just a history. So what are you

1210
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 1: looking for. You're looking for improvement out of your younger players.

1211
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 1: You're looking for playing time out of your younger players.

1212
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 1: And by the way, this team is almost half of

1213
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 1: them are less than two years. That's that of your roster.

1214
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 1: So you gotta get these young guys to not a

1215
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:02,520
Speaker 1: win and to learn and get some experience. We got

1216
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 1: two calls left. Let's go to Joe in Pennsylvania. First, Joe,

1217
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:10,919
Speaker 1: what's up, Joe? Uh, nothing, guys, It's it's just it's

1218
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 1: the same old story discipline and blown assignments. And if

1219
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 1: I'm John Mara, I don't know if our team keeps

1220
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 1: a record of blow the assignments or if the league does,

1221
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:23,919
Speaker 1: but I know I would, you know, if we can't

1222
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 1: get straightened out these last few games, whether we win

1223
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 1: or lose, with with our assignments, because we run scout

1224
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 1: teams in and that against uh the team we're playing

1225
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 1: in that and you know, you run your team here,

1226
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 1: you're in this position. This is where it is. The

1227
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 1: ball goes there if they do there and in keeping

1228
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:48,440
Speaker 1: your position. And if we can't learn that, that's why

1229
00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 1: we lost. I think we're three or four of the

1230
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 1: games to blown assignments. And if I'm the the owner

1231
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 1: of the team era, if we can't get this straightened

1232
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 1: out somehow, we have no chance. Then I really, by

1233
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 1: the end of the season, I might have to look

1234
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 1: to making a coaching change. I just can't take that

1235
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:13,160
Speaker 1: because that that's what's killing us, really and truly, I

1236
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 1: think I'm not sure where to say and came from

1237
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 1: uh New England does it a lot? I hear it.

1238
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 1: Do your job. So if you have to take an

1239
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 1: extra second or two to think where should I be

1240
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:28,920
Speaker 1: in position? You know it's better off to do that

1241
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 1: then to react and beyond a position. This is but

1242
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:34,960
Speaker 1: I'm saying, if I'm the owner, if we can't get

1243
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 1: straightened out here by the end of the year by

1244
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 1: all these blowing assignments and discipline, then I have to

1245
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 1: make a coach and change because I just can't understand

1246
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 1: it's you know, you could teach this the high school

1247
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:51,200
Speaker 1: kids or so to be in this position and stuff

1248
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:54,440
Speaker 1: like that. And we can't win if if we're not

1249
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:57,600
Speaker 1: in position. So that's really all I have to say,

1250
00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:01,920
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you, appreciate. Look, uh, I mean you

1251
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:04,040
Speaker 1: don't think they're telling the players where to play in

1252
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 1: a cover four? They are, I mean they are, Look

1253
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 1: they are. But but he Joe has a good point. No,

1254
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 1: but his overall point is correct. Well, you cannot have

1255
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 1: these blow signs about that. And it goes back to

1256
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 1: what we talked about earlier about guys preparing better. They

1257
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:21,880
Speaker 1: gotta they gotta get in the book or the iPad,

1258
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:24,160
Speaker 1: whatever the hell they use nowadays, and being locked in

1259
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 1: when you're out there. You gotta know exactly what you're

1260
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 1: and Carl will tell you this because Carl, Carl obviously

1261
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 1: has played the position and understands this. What he's telling

1262
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Speaker 1: you is is that it's recognition. It's reps, mental reps. Right,

1263
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:39,560
Speaker 1: it's not all in. Yes, we love game reps, but

1264
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:42,160
Speaker 1: you're only gonna get game rests when games occur. You're

1265
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:44,200
Speaker 1: not many reps you can get with this thing right here.

1266
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:47,280
Speaker 1: You can you can watch games. We're just why it's

1267
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:49,160
Speaker 1: like he's plunting on an iPad by the way, Yeah,

1268
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:51,520
Speaker 1: that's what I'm doing. But my point is that you

1269
01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:54,640
Speaker 1: can study. The more you're studying, the more you're prepared

1270
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 1: on the field, you will recognize things when they're in

1271
01:00:57,200 --> 01:00:58,920
Speaker 1: this type of front of where there, when this guy

1272
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:01,600
Speaker 1: has lined up in this position, you understand that they've

1273
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:04,439
Speaker 1: never run a crossing route out of this position ever,

1274
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 1: out of all the stuff. If they do it that day,

1275
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:09,840
Speaker 1: you can come off and say, dude, listen, tip your cap.

1276
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:11,840
Speaker 1: You tip your cap and you say, listen, I studied day.

1277
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:14,080
Speaker 1: I've never seen him run that right route out of

1278
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:16,960
Speaker 1: that out of that formation before. But that played, for example,

1279
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:18,960
Speaker 1: in a Marie Cooper scored into the Cowboys game. They

1280
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:20,440
Speaker 1: went that play at the time. That's one of their

1281
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:24,440
Speaker 1: go to offensive place. We have seen the Giants Dallas game.

1282
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:26,680
Speaker 1: We've seen Dallas score on that play for as long

1283
01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:29,520
Speaker 1: as we've been covering the Giants Dallas rivalry games. That

1284
01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:32,320
Speaker 1: that that is their bread and butter. Witten is another

1285
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:34,440
Speaker 1: one who usually runs that crossing pattern and gets the

1286
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:36,400
Speaker 1: ball and goes for a touchdown, although this time it

1287
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 1: was a Mari Cooper. But I'm just you're seeing my point, right,

1288
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:42,840
Speaker 1: I mean, it's all about preparation and understanding what the

1289
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 1: other team is trying to do against you. And that's

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01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:48,880
Speaker 1: that's just kind of getting getting in the books, Charlie

1291
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:52,000
Speaker 1: and Portland, Maine will wrap us up today. Chuckles, chuckle, chuckle.

1292
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:59,240
Speaker 1: Hey guys, Hey, hey, hey, hey, I finally get down there. Geff,

1293
01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:06,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm across between al Pacino de Niro and uh,

1294
01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:10,800
Speaker 1: you know, the Mr Titanic, uh DiCaprio. I'm a cross

1295
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 1: between those three. So when you see me, you'll you'll

1296
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 1: get it. Charlie, Charlie, see, I saw him always like

1297
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:22,160
Speaker 1: Curly from the Three Stooges. Maybe like Bozo the Clown

1298
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:25,440
Speaker 1: could be in the mix there and throw in like

1299
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:29,000
Speaker 1: Kramer from Seinfeld. I think a combination of those three

1300
01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:32,040
Speaker 1: might actually be make more sense. Thank you, thank you.

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01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:38,240
Speaker 1: That's better taste. I can't believe you think Sure has

1302
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:41,280
Speaker 1: a good scheme. He does. How can you believe that?

1303
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:43,960
Speaker 1: I watch I watched the tape every week, which which

1304
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:48,040
Speaker 1: I know you don't. That's how we were. We were

1305
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:52,480
Speaker 1: on the ten yard line, it are closer four times

1306
01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:55,760
Speaker 1: in the red zone four times, and he couldn't get

1307
01:02:55,840 --> 01:02:58,800
Speaker 1: us in because he wasn't aggressive, Charlie, don't time that time?

1308
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:01,200
Speaker 1: What does that mean? What does that mean? He wasn't aggressive?

1309
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:03,000
Speaker 1: Explain it to me. Let me tell you what that

1310
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:05,040
Speaker 1: He tried to give the ball to you, no time out,

1311
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:07,000
Speaker 1: time out, time out, time out, time out. He tried

1312
01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:09,000
Speaker 1: to give the ball to his best player and Sae

1313
01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:11,560
Speaker 1: Kwon Barkley couldn't run it in because the offensive line

1314
01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:13,400
Speaker 1: didn't block for him. If he didn't give it to

1315
01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:15,960
Speaker 1: Sake Kuan and he passed it three times, I guarantee

1316
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:19,040
Speaker 1: you you would be calling up you have sa Kwan Barckley.

1317
01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:21,640
Speaker 1: How are you not giving out the Barkley? You know

1318
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 1: why why everyone in the stadium knew he was gonna

1319
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:30,200
Speaker 1: give it to Barley and knew he was gonna give

1320
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:33,920
Speaker 1: it to Barkley. When you just get an interception to

1321
01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:37,520
Speaker 1: start the game and the whole stadium is just, you know,

1322
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:40,640
Speaker 1: just screaming. It's just what you do is you go

1323
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:43,800
Speaker 1: for the touchdown, you fake to run to Barkley, you

1324
01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:46,520
Speaker 1: roll out, and I bet you there's been somebody open.

1325
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:51,480
Speaker 1: That's when you become aggressive. But not sure comes aggressive

1326
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:56,320
Speaker 1: means aggressive? When? When? When when someone just scored a

1327
01:03:56,400 --> 01:03:59,240
Speaker 1: fourth yard touchdown and he got like a minute laughter

1328
01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 1: or whatever. Us then he starts being aggressive and when

1329
01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:05,280
Speaker 1: he should have just sat on the ball. Oh, by

1330
01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:07,760
Speaker 1: the way, hold on, hold on, I want to address that,

1331
01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:09,120
Speaker 1: by the way, because I haven't been on since that

1332
01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 1: game that critique, and a lot of the media has

1333
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:16,760
Speaker 1: made it too. It's the most disingenuous nonsense that I've

1334
01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:21,640
Speaker 1: ever heard. This defense hasn't stopped anybody the whole season.

1335
01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:23,720
Speaker 1: So you have a chance to put more points on

1336
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:25,960
Speaker 1: the board. After you settle for field goals in the

1337
01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:28,800
Speaker 1: red zone two different times in the first half, you

1338
01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:31,840
Speaker 1: have a chance to score points. You have all three timeouts,

1339
01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:34,360
Speaker 1: you have forty five seconds. All you need to do.

1340
01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:37,600
Speaker 1: All you need to do is get thirty five or

1341
01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:40,960
Speaker 1: forty yards. If you can't get thirty five or forty

1342
01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:45,640
Speaker 1: yards in forty seconds with three time outs, quit because

1343
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:48,760
Speaker 1: that's not hard. And Jeff can speak to that, that

1344
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:52,720
Speaker 1: is easy. To get forty yards in forty seconds with

1345
01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:56,040
Speaker 1: three timeouts is easy. Maybe your players shouldn't drop a

1346
01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:59,160
Speaker 1: pass that hit him right in the chest on first down,

1347
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:01,680
Speaker 1: and then you would have be in that situation. That's

1348
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:05,000
Speaker 1: why at that point he should have had a brain

1349
01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:07,120
Speaker 1: in his head and go, hey, it didn't work. We're

1350
01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:10,120
Speaker 1: not going anywhere, so let's just let's just run the clock,

1351
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:13,040
Speaker 1: make them use their time out, give him about fifteen

1352
01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:15,720
Speaker 1: seconds left, and they probably would have scored a field

1353
01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:18,920
Speaker 1: goals anyway, knowing Art, but that was the smart thing

1354
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:21,400
Speaker 1: to do. That's what he shouldn't have been at all.

1355
01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:24,080
Speaker 1: How about this should have been about? How about your

1356
01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:27,480
Speaker 1: quarterback on a third and ten doesn't throw it into coverage,

1357
01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:30,080
Speaker 1: and how about your receiver gets his head around and

1358
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:33,960
Speaker 1: fights for the ball. How about that. You don't do

1359
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 1: that because you have a rookie quarterback that's missed the

1360
01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:40,320
Speaker 1: fumbles and the turnover. That's what I'm saying. You don't

1361
01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:42,640
Speaker 1: do that with that. If it was Eli Manning, maybe

1362
01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:45,040
Speaker 1: you would do that because he's experienced, he's a pro.

1363
01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:48,040
Speaker 1: He knows what he's doing. You run the ball on

1364
01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:50,560
Speaker 1: first down. You run the ball in first down. That's

1365
01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:52,480
Speaker 1: just I've always been as long as I have been.

1366
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:54,320
Speaker 1: You take us, you run the ball on first down

1367
01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:56,400
Speaker 1: and see what happened, and let them stop the clock

1368
01:05:56,520 --> 01:05:59,480
Speaker 1: for you. Right. If they stop you, then you make up.

1369
01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:02,720
Speaker 1: You just sit. But they did that the other night

1370
01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:05,400
Speaker 1: they was like the end of the half. They ran

1371
01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 1: a draw and they picked up like ten yards, and

1372
01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:10,960
Speaker 1: so they decided to try it again. If they had

1373
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:13,200
Speaker 1: gotten nothing, they wouldn't have they wouldn't have done anything.

1374
01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:15,720
Speaker 1: They would have just ran out the clock. That's what

1375
01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:18,600
Speaker 1: you do. He doesn't have a clue. He doesn't have

1376
01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:21,160
Speaker 1: a clue how to be a head coach, and he

1377
01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:25,040
Speaker 1: shouldn't be calling the place and far as Betcher's concerned

1378
01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:30,000
Speaker 1: simple leside the defense, he doesn't know how to do that.

1379
01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:33,400
Speaker 1: He's got rookies and even veterans don't even know where

1380
01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:39,440
Speaker 1: they're supposed to be. However, four is the simplest defense

1381
01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:42,840
Speaker 1: in the world. Too deep, man under is this is

1382
01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:44,600
Speaker 1: one of the simplest defenses in the world. Do you

1383
01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:48,160
Speaker 1: know what the defense is? Follow the guy, That's what

1384
01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:51,440
Speaker 1: the defense is. Follow your man. That's what covered. Did

1385
01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:53,960
Speaker 1: Valentine think he was in man and the other side

1386
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:57,120
Speaker 1: I thought they were in zone because Baker wasn't paying attention.

1387
01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:02,280
Speaker 1: It's the coach, and of course it's on the coach.

1388
01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:05,400
Speaker 1: It's never on the players. It's always on the coach. No,

1389
01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:08,040
Speaker 1: it's on the coach. If the player says, I don't

1390
01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:10,320
Speaker 1: even know. I don't even know what the plays are.

1391
01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:13,080
Speaker 1: I don't even if he I mean, they're the one

1392
01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:15,120
Speaker 1: that's teaching him. They should know. The guy doesn't know

1393
01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:20,160
Speaker 1: when he thinks he shouldn't be playing on the trollie, Charlie, Charlie.

1394
01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:24,400
Speaker 1: Does he screw up the coverage on every play? Does

1395
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:28,000
Speaker 1: Bakers screw up the coverage and every place? Well, not

1396
01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:31,800
Speaker 1: every play, but no, And by the way, that's nonsense.

1397
01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:35,200
Speaker 1: It's not fifty, it's like five. But at five percent

1398
01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:38,240
Speaker 1: can can cost your game. So is it the coach's

1399
01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:40,520
Speaker 1: fault that he gets it right percent of the time?

1400
01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:42,880
Speaker 1: But he brainlocks on five percent of the plays and

1401
01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:46,080
Speaker 1: he screws those up. Look when you come out and

1402
01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:48,440
Speaker 1: say I don't know the plays, that's on the coaches

1403
01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:52,320
Speaker 1: to sit him down or everyone else knows the plays.

1404
01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:54,240
Speaker 1: How come he doesn't know the plays? How is that

1405
01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:56,440
Speaker 1: the coach's fault. Why isn't that the player's fault that's

1406
01:07:56,480 --> 01:07:59,200
Speaker 1: not paying attention enough to learn the damn playbook? Jeff, Please,

1407
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:01,040
Speaker 1: players of this list, and he just told you you

1408
01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:03,760
Speaker 1: didn't know the place, so obviously the coach has told

1409
01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:05,800
Speaker 1: you how the play is supposed to be run. It's

1410
01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:07,200
Speaker 1: up to you to learn how to play. And if

1411
01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:09,800
Speaker 1: you don't understand the play, then asked the coach. But

1412
01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:12,480
Speaker 1: what you're saying is you're saying that he's teaching him

1413
01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:15,560
Speaker 1: the wrong play. Is that what you're saying? Now, what

1414
01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:18,920
Speaker 1: I'm saying is the coach should know whether this guy

1415
01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:21,600
Speaker 1: gets it or not. And if he doesn't get it,

1416
01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:24,360
Speaker 1: even if it's five percent of the time or ten

1417
01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:27,400
Speaker 1: percent of the time, you don't play him. You get

1418
01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:30,040
Speaker 1: your position coaches to work with him. And he sent

1419
01:08:30,160 --> 01:08:33,400
Speaker 1: him down until he finally knows what the heck he's doing.

1420
01:08:33,840 --> 01:08:37,120
Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. The other thing with Jenkins, Jenkins

1421
01:08:37,439 --> 01:08:39,960
Speaker 1: knew the guy was going to be in They were

1422
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:42,200
Speaker 1: going to get a touchdown anyway. What he tried to

1423
01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:44,479
Speaker 1: do is knock the ball out of his hand. The

1424
01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:46,880
Speaker 1: best thing that could have happened was him to fune

1425
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:49,360
Speaker 1: go the ball because he knew held to be tackled him.

1426
01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:51,519
Speaker 1: He would have been on the two guideline and Zeke

1427
01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:53,919
Speaker 1: would have gone right through the middle for a touchdown.

1428
01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:57,439
Speaker 1: So you can't blame you can't blame him for that.

1429
01:08:58,120 --> 01:09:04,960
Speaker 1: Thank you, Charlie. Enjoy right weekend, have a good one. Goodbye, Charlie.

1430
01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:11,719
Speaker 1: I mean Slain was wide open on that first play.

1431
01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:16,000
Speaker 1: Hit him right, the ball literally hit went through his hands. Yeah,

1432
01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:19,560
Speaker 1: but listen, I tell you we're talking about I just

1433
01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:21,120
Speaker 1: want to make sure we're talking about the same the

1434
01:09:21,160 --> 01:09:22,720
Speaker 1: same point. So the end of the first half, the

1435
01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:25,439
Speaker 1: Giants got the ball with seconds to go on the

1436
01:09:25,479 --> 01:09:30,160
Speaker 1: clock and they had three time outs left. I'm I'm

1437
01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:32,960
Speaker 1: a big fan of running the ball there on first down.

1438
01:09:33,280 --> 01:09:34,439
Speaker 1: And you know what, I would have been fine with

1439
01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:36,920
Speaker 1: that too. That's okay, because you are still trying to score.

1440
01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:39,880
Speaker 1: Half the people out there are arguing that they should

1441
01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:42,280
Speaker 1: just knelt on the ball, which is just dumb that

1442
01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:44,880
Speaker 1: I don't agree with when you know, I don't agree

1443
01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:49,200
Speaker 1: with that. Okay, And either dischirmer because he ran he

1444
01:09:49,320 --> 01:09:52,120
Speaker 1: wanted to be aggressive. But you can you can talk

1445
01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:54,280
Speaker 1: either way. You can say, you know, how can you

1446
01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:57,200
Speaker 1: leave the other team with time outs and this much time.

1447
01:09:57,880 --> 01:10:01,920
Speaker 1: Listen to the interception that Daniel Jones through. He's got

1448
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:04,760
Speaker 1: to be smarter than that. Okay, that's your punt is

1449
01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:06,720
Speaker 1: going to be better there than that play. Yeah, because

1450
01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:08,600
Speaker 1: you have a twenty seven, you'll return and Slaton's got

1451
01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:09,960
Speaker 1: to get his head around and fight for the ball

1452
01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:12,040
Speaker 1: a little bit. So there's all kinds of circumstances that

1453
01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:13,600
Speaker 1: come into effect, and one big one is that you

1454
01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:17,200
Speaker 1: drop the football, okay, and so that's a momentum killer

1455
01:10:17,320 --> 01:10:20,280
Speaker 1: right there. And so the call on first down is

1456
01:10:20,360 --> 01:10:22,559
Speaker 1: running football to get the clock running, okay, and can

1457
01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:24,519
Speaker 1: see what you can do. Let the other team's gonna call,

1458
01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:26,760
Speaker 1: let them stop the clock for you, or if you

1459
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:28,320
Speaker 1: get a big gainer, and then you can trying to

1460
01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:30,840
Speaker 1: gain plan and go from there. But you can talk

1461
01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:32,800
Speaker 1: either way. You could take a knee there. You can

1462
01:10:32,840 --> 01:10:34,400
Speaker 1: go for what they did or you can do It's

1463
01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:36,960
Speaker 1: just I'm always gonna sign on being aggressive in that spot.

1464
01:10:37,040 --> 01:10:40,160
Speaker 1: That's just me. Especially. Look if you if your defense

1465
01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:42,559
Speaker 1: is some like great defense where you do have confidence

1466
01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:45,880
Speaker 1: they're gonna slow people down. The giants have to maximize

1467
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:48,679
Speaker 1: their ability to score points at every chance. But don't

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Speaker 1: you think no choice, But don't you think that that

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01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:53,240
Speaker 1: kind of contradicts being aggressive there because you know your

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01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:55,760
Speaker 1: defense would just let somebody go down the field. You know,

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01:10:55,800 --> 01:10:57,680
Speaker 1: if your defense is that bad, then you may want

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Speaker 1: to just take a knee and just saying we're not

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01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:00,960
Speaker 1: gonna give it as to get the ball back to

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Speaker 1: these guys. Right, No, but I want to go score points.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna that assumption. I'm I'm gonna go three

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Speaker 1: and out here. But that but the assumption you have

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01:11:08,080 --> 01:11:09,600
Speaker 1: to kind of think about it wasn't if we if

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Speaker 1: I don't do this, we know our defense, they can't

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Speaker 1: stop anybody. They're gonna go down and score. It's exactly

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Speaker 1: what they did. So let's say you run on the

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01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:19,120
Speaker 1: first down and you get six yards. Okay, so it's

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Speaker 1: second and four, and then what do you do? All right,

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01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:22,640
Speaker 1: then you're gonna have You're gonna try to make a

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01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:24,840
Speaker 1: first down. You're gonna throw the football right and then

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01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:26,560
Speaker 1: see what you could get from there. But if you

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01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:29,599
Speaker 1: if you get an incomplete pass there, then you're gonna

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01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:31,519
Speaker 1: probably you're gonna run the clock out and just go in.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta you gotta figure out how you're

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01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:35,040
Speaker 1: But the Cowboys have three time outs. You're not running

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01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:36,720
Speaker 1: the clock out there getting the ball back. What I

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01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:38,479
Speaker 1: mean by they're gonna call a time out, they're gonna

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01:11:38,479 --> 01:11:40,719
Speaker 1: cry the time out. You're gonna punt the football, okay,

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01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:43,559
Speaker 1: and then you're gonna let them go, no slightly. Your

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01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:45,400
Speaker 1: partner is gonna get the ball down there forty yards

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01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:47,240
Speaker 1: and they're gonna they're gonna Now they're gonna have probably

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01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:49,280
Speaker 1: seventy yards to go. Well, I mean if they get

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Speaker 1: at their own thirty, they have to go thirty five

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Speaker 1: yards again. The field goal range. Okay, yeah, for for

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Speaker 1: a field goal. Yeah, So it's a very sticky situation.

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Speaker 1: It just depends on philosophy that also is very due.

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Speaker 1: You get to go a thirty seconds, you gotta go

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01:12:02,360 --> 01:12:05,160
Speaker 1: thirty yards again the field goal range. We've seen people

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01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:07,120
Speaker 1: do that against the Giants before. Let's be let's be

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01:12:07,200 --> 01:12:09,800
Speaker 1: honest for a second. I mean the one that killed

1505
01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:12,040
Speaker 1: you was the interception and the return. That's the bad

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01:12:12,160 --> 01:12:14,360
Speaker 1: That was the bad part about that whole thing, that

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01:12:14,479 --> 01:12:17,520
Speaker 1: whole sequence. That was the bad thing. Because an interception

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01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:19,519
Speaker 1: and a step like a guy just tackles him right there,

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01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:23,040
Speaker 1: not all that bad. But my my, my big point

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01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:24,519
Speaker 1: is that. And I look, if you want to run

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01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:26,320
Speaker 1: it on first down and then go from there, I'm

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01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:29,160
Speaker 1: okay with that. Run a screen, pass, a draw, whatever,

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01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:31,000
Speaker 1: that's fine. I'm okay with that. And I and it

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Speaker 1: still wants to call on and make that point. I'm

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01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:34,280
Speaker 1: fine with that, but you don't want to run a

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01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:36,760
Speaker 1: play to stop the clock. That's the situation there. But

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01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:39,840
Speaker 1: the clock shouldn't have stopped that the guy catches the ball. No,

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01:12:40,040 --> 01:12:42,639
Speaker 1: it won't stop. No, but the clock shouldn't have stopped

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Speaker 1: because the guy should have caught the ball right, went

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Speaker 1: right through his hands. Yes, I get that, but you

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01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:50,080
Speaker 1: know my point is that he catches the ball goes

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01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:53,479
Speaker 1: to me. Though the defense has been so poor in

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01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:57,880
Speaker 1: these second halves as it was, you would your plus

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01:12:58,000 --> 01:13:00,640
Speaker 1: two in the first half, and you're only up at

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01:13:00,720 --> 01:13:04,680
Speaker 1: that point twelve ten, right, if I'm not mistaken, twelve ten.

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01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:07,120
Speaker 1: You want to try to extend that a lead a

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01:13:07,160 --> 01:13:09,720
Speaker 1: little bit. And I get where Pat Chrummer's coming from.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what is this defense made to stop in

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01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:15,080
Speaker 1: a second half for you? They don't. I need as

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01:13:15,200 --> 01:13:17,200
Speaker 1: many points as I can get, And all right, we

1531
01:13:17,280 --> 01:13:18,800
Speaker 1: gotta go. We're really late, and we've gone to this

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01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:20,920
Speaker 1: debate last. I say, Charlie for last, and now we

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Speaker 1: regretta being fifteen minutes later. I got a million things

1534
01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:25,640
Speaker 1: to don't killing Mackenzie, I'm killing Fiegles. We gotta go.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for being with us. Everybody wanna remind everyone, by

1536
01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:30,040
Speaker 1: the way, if you listen to Big Boo Kickoff Live

1537
01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:32,720
Speaker 1: on podcast, make sure you subscribe to the new Big

1538
01:13:32,760 --> 01:13:36,479
Speaker 1: Blue Kickoff feed starting December one, that's the only place

1539
01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:38,560
Speaker 1: it will be available. It will no longer be available

1540
01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:41,400
Speaker 1: on the New York Giants audio podcast. Also, if you

1541
01:13:41,439 --> 01:13:42,800
Speaker 1: want to hear more from Jeff and I as along

1542
01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:44,720
Speaker 1: with Lance and Paul, check out our pregame show on

1543
01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:47,880
Speaker 1: Sunday on w f A N at eleven thirty. Lance

1544
01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:52,280
Speaker 1: and Jeff will be at eighty River, Jersey, which is

1545
01:13:52,720 --> 01:13:54,800
Speaker 1: not surprisingly on eight River Streets, so make sure you

1546
01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:57,519
Speaker 1: check that out. And me and Paul will be at

1547
01:13:57,600 --> 01:14:00,280
Speaker 1: MetLife Stadium. It is a Jets home game. Then if course,

1548
01:14:00,479 --> 01:14:02,439
Speaker 1: LANs and Jeff will have post game afterwards. I'll be

1549
01:14:02,479 --> 01:14:04,320
Speaker 1: in the locker room and Big Book kick Off Live

1550
01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:07,439
Speaker 1: comes your way again on Monday at one thirty. Only

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01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:10,320
Speaker 1: shows Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. Next week Thursday and Friday, it's

1552
01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:12,240
Speaker 1: a bye week we're gonna be off, so just keep

1553
01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:14,479
Speaker 1: that in mind moving forward, and make sure you subscribed

1554
01:14:14,479 --> 01:14:17,080
Speaker 1: to our other two podcasts, The Giants Huddle and Giants

1555
01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:19,920
Speaker 1: Rewind with Carl Banks. For Jeff Eagles. I'm John schmut

1556
01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:22,000
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Speaker 1: We'll see on Monday. Have a great weekend and Giants

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01:14:25,240 --> 01:14:27,120
Speaker 1: and Jets on Sunday enjoy the game. See you