1 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on 2 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 1: Home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome 3 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: to the Drive. I'm Dale Lolly here with Matt Williamson. Matt, 4 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: It's a Monday in Pittsburgh and the Steelers. We're actually 5 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:43,599 Speaker 1: we are a week essentially a week into the new 6 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 1: league here. Yeah, the legal tampering tampering period started a 7 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 1: week ago today. Everything became official then on Wednesday. So 8 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: I mean people are acting like, oh my god, this 9 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: you know, everything's set in this. There's gonna be a 10 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: lot of changes between now and the dre aft and 11 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: then between now an opening day and now an opening 12 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: like that was I wrote a piece over the weekend 13 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 1: on d K Pittsburgh sports dot Com and of course 14 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: a lot of people freaking out. Uh you know, the 15 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:14,960 Speaker 1: Steven Nelson news, the Juju sign all that stuff. Oh 16 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 1: my god, what are the Steelers doing? You know this 17 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: is they're they're tearing this defensive part blah blah blah. 18 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: They don't have to line up and play for six 19 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: more months. No, they got a long time. I mean, 20 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of bargains between now and 21 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:28,559 Speaker 1: then in free agency. I mean the first wave has gone. 22 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: I think pretty much every signing you see around the 23 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: league from this point on is going to be very 24 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: team friendly. Um, they're set up pretty well in the draft, 25 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 1: as we show time and time again and walk away 26 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 1: with a pretty good load for other draft and again. Yeah, 27 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 1: and then you know you're gonna develop some of these 28 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 1: guys and some of the dudes on the team justin 29 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: lane maybe for example, it's gonna get better. You know, 30 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: something's allowed to get better, is allowed to happen. I 31 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: delved into that a little bit. You know, when when 32 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: the Smith Schuster contract was announced, we were on the 33 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: air right um, and then the Nelson news came down. 34 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: Everybody looked at as well, it's Juju got eight million 35 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: and Nelson saves eight million. So therefore it's a trade off. 36 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 1: Who would rather have Nelson or j It really isn't 37 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: because Juju cost one point six million against the cap 38 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: this year. They're clearing more cap space for a reason. Yeah, 39 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 1: there's something else coming here that that they're not. And 40 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: they made two signings over the weekend. Two more. They 41 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: also announced the you know, yeah, they came to terms 42 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 1: with Miles Killibrew who's a safety slash linebacker from the Lions, 43 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:40,079 Speaker 1: played at Southern Utah, big big hitter, and uh offensive 44 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 1: tackle Joe Haig from the Buccaneers, who was the guy 45 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 1: who dropped the touchdown passing the guy. But he's a 46 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:50,119 Speaker 1: guy with starting experience at tackle and guard. Let's start 47 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: with him because I knew about him, But of course 48 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: after the Steeler signed him, I did more research on 49 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: both those players. Haig, I don't know what he weighs now, 50 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: I'm curious, but he was too nine his combine that 51 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 1: was like five years ago. He's not gonna be exact 52 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: banner on last week. They're not gonna look exactly the 53 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 1: same because they're gonna be different body types. Um, but 54 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 1: he tested very well and you see that on the field. 55 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: He's a really good athlete. I went back and looked 56 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:17,959 Speaker 1: where all his snaps have come from and his profitball 57 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: focus background a lot of guard certainly has third tackle 58 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: potential and experience and a lot of snaps as as 59 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl as that extra type tight end 60 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: because of his athleticis because he's yeah, I mean so 61 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: I expect him to see the field, not just in 62 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: case of injury at the very least you've upgraded that 63 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: third tackle spot with without waiting to the draft to 64 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: douce do so. And we talked about this all the 65 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: time with Kevin Colbert. I mean, now they don't draft 66 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: a tackle or they they have three NFL tackles and tackles, right, 67 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: and this guy can play guard and he's gonna play 68 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:56,839 Speaker 1: on games. I mean he's gonna be He could wind 69 00:03:56,920 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: up in somewhere some way fashion or form one of 70 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: your top five, or he's at the very least in 71 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: your top seven, depending on how who you drafted. The 72 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: hope is better than all of them. I mean there's 73 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: that there's that potential for that. Um. Yeah, same thing 74 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: when when you look at the Killer brew signing, he 75 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: helps you first of all, he improves your depth that linebacker. Right, 76 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: he pushes Marcus Allen at the very least the weekend 77 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: and he said one of us said, better version of 78 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 1: Marcus Allen. Yeah, this guy's one. He's one of those 79 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: the leaders and special teams tackles over the last like 80 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: four years. I mean he's he's like third in the league, 81 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 1: and special teams have the history of grabbing those guys 82 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 1: with a lot of special teams, tackles or developing. I 83 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 1: had somebody poo, they just signed a special teams guy. 84 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: I said, first of all, you have fifty three players 85 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: on your roster. Secondly, you have to have these kind 86 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: of guys on your roster unless you want to see T. J. 87 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: Watt running down covering kicks. Well you no question. See 88 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: I looked at it as initially I'm like, oh, good 89 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: special team signing, dangerfield, and then you look more into it. 90 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: He's more than that because I think he can get 91 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 1: you out of the game. Like last year, he would 92 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 1: have played someone he would on the field a lot, 93 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 1: probably ahead of Head of definitely ahead of Alan when 94 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: Gilbert right, exactly is he your dime linebacker? He might? Actually, 95 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: I mean if you don't get a guy in the draft, 96 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: I mean it would if be him and Bush out 97 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,919 Speaker 1: there on third nine maybe, you know. I mean, he 98 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 1: can play some safety to get you out of a 99 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 1: game in a danger field like manner and special teams 100 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:33,599 Speaker 1: are the key. Obviously, if he wasn't a good special 101 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: team or he wouldn't be would in the league, right. 102 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 1: But he does more than that. Yeah, So I mean 103 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: he's he's an NFL player. Yeah, And he's the middle 104 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: of the field, coverage and speed. These are not flashy moves, no, 105 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: but they're valuable. But they're valuable players. Both guys kill 106 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: a couple of birds. Yeah, you know what I mean. 107 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:54,359 Speaker 1: And so again you you check off a couple of 108 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,039 Speaker 1: those boxes between going into the draft, well and all 109 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 1: of a sudden, his offensive tackle. I mean, if the 110 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 1: opportunity presents itself to take a top offensive tackle, they're 111 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 1: gonna take him. Christian Derris saw Is, they're gonna take him, right. 112 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: But now you don't have to Now you don't have 113 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:13,039 Speaker 1: to go, oh my god, there's five tackles off the board, 114 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:15,039 Speaker 1: we better take the sixth one. No, you don't have 115 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: to do that. Now. You've got NFL players at that 116 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: position right without question, and Killer brus the NFL player too. 117 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 1: But I still think the linebacker need is he's ben't 118 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 1: gone because of him, you know, like he's a depth piece, 119 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: that pie. He's kind of a breaking case of emergency 120 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 1: on the defense type of guy. But he's played a 121 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 1: lot of defensive snaps out there too. Yeah, I mean, 122 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: he's you know, and and there are The league is changing, 123 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 1: you know. I mean, we noted that when we we 124 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: did our triple take with on the linebackers. Um, you 125 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 1: look at the linebackers in this draft, and they come 126 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 1: in all shapes and sizes, but one thing that you 127 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 1: don't see the thumpers. Um, Vince Williams coming out. Now, 128 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 1: those those guys just I mean they're all of a 129 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 1: sudden now fifth round draft picks, if they're drafted at all. 130 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: You want these kind of players, these six pound guys. 131 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: The safety background, and yeah, he can run cover. I 132 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: mean he think he was like a four six five 133 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: guy to combine it, which is plenty fast over two pounds, 134 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: you know. I mean right, if you look at it 135 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: through a linebacker's perspective, that's pretty fast. If you look 136 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 1: at it through a safety perspective, all he's a little 137 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: too slow. Well, he's not gonna be playing deep middle again. 138 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:29,239 Speaker 1: This this is how the league has changed to where 139 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: you know, ten fifteen years ago, those guys have been Well, 140 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: he's a tweener and that's a bad thing. He used 141 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: to be a massive negative. Now everybody wants to tweeners. 142 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 1: I mean, is he gonna take on double team blocks 143 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: in the hole? No? No, But that's okay, I mean, 144 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: that's not what the positions asked. Athletically, he is right there, 145 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: He's he's he's the same athlete as Mark Baron was. Yeah, 146 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: but cheaper, but cheaper, but cheaper. He doesn't have Baron's experience, 147 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: but Baron was the first he was the first round pick. Um. 148 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 1: I would say, he's not a direct replacement for Vince, 149 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 1: but it shows where the position is going that one's 150 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: gone in one's year. I think Splaine is the replacement 151 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: for Vince. Yeah, and when they when they made that 152 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: move and decided to release Vince, the feedback, well, you know, 153 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: Splane is awful in coverage. It just Vince wasn't great 154 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: in coverage. Two years ago, they tried to replace Vince 155 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 1: in the in the base defense. They didn't want Vince 156 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 1: Williams playing in the base, right. That happened last year 157 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: because you know, the Baron experiment didn't work out because 158 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 1: you know, he just wasn't available enough at practice time 159 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: to get everything down. So they decided to go and 160 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 1: he was a bit of an investment even move on. Yeah, 161 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:42,679 Speaker 1: you know, um, you know, but I think, man think 162 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: ideally you don't want Spellane or Vince in coverage, right, 163 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: that's the that's the thing. But you have Bush back 164 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: next year. The thing that you can't have is both 165 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:52,319 Speaker 1: of the when you have when you have Williams and 166 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 1: splane on the field together, one of them is gonna 167 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:57,599 Speaker 1: get stuck covering somebody because the offensive coordinator on the 168 00:08:57,600 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 1: other team is gonna be or the quarterback is gonna say, 169 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:02,439 Speaker 1: we gotta get somebody matched up on one of those linebackers. 170 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: You're vulnerable enough when Vince is out there or Spillane. 171 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 1: I mean, they're they're gonna get picked on. Now, you know, 172 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 1: if Bush goes down again, you at least have one 173 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 1: more answer. You got an athlete, and maybe Gilbert comes 174 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 1: along or another draft picks out of the I mean 175 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: they're going to draft a linebacker. I'm sure they will 176 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: at some point. Um, But yeah, I think you know 177 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 1: when you look at what the trouble, yeah, you know, 178 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: and it's again, he signed a one year deal. He's 179 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: not safe at all. But when you look at what 180 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: they're what they're going to lose when they get rid 181 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 1: of when Nelson goes Okay, Nelson played eight percent of 182 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: the snap slash stop you real quick. I'm sure you 183 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: don't have this answer any chance they mend that fence 184 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 1: with Nelson. I kind of thought he'd be traded by 185 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 1: the time we got the Monday. There's potential there. I 186 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 1: mean he told me they said, yeah, go ahead and 187 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: explore the you know trade. Right. That doesn't mean he's 188 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: automatically gone, right, as I say, it hasn't happened yet. 189 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: Shawn Watson wants to be traded to he that's been 190 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 1: going on for two once. He's not going anywhere. Russell 191 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 1: Wilson put it out and you know he's not the 192 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: only one. Orlando Brown and yeah, guys, guys asked to 193 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: be traded. Guys one out of their situation doesn't mean 194 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: to give them away for seventh and we're just simply 195 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: released them. You know, when you have other avenues to 196 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: save cap space. They could still keep him. It's not 197 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:20,319 Speaker 1: like he has to go, right, uh. But he played 198 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 1: eight percent the Snaps last year. Vince Williams played sixty 199 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: in the Snaps last year. Bud Dupre was at because 200 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: the because of the injury. Right Hilton was at forty 201 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: five he missed a few games because of injury, and 202 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 1: Lulu was at forty three and a half percent because 203 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: he missed a game, but he only missed a game 204 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: because because of the injury. So none of those guys 205 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: we're players like No, but Nelson's pretty close. Yeah, I 206 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 1: mean we know that, but he Again, this goes back 207 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: to what we always say here. The teams tell you 208 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 1: what they think based on what the moves are. So 209 00:10:57,320 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: this tells me that a they want Cam Sutton to 210 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 1: be a full time player. Yes, his snapcasts are gonna 211 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: go massively. Be they trust Lane or Pierre or some 212 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 1: combination of both, or at least are pretty intrigued. More 213 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: likely Lane. He was the third round pick. He's heading 214 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: into year three to be that guy who plays on 215 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 1: the outside. It allows Sutton to kick inside on passing downs. 216 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:26,959 Speaker 1: I hope, I mean, I don't think there's any I 217 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 1: mean that that's what they're thinking here. Well, because they 218 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: couldn't have foreseen this Nelson thing coming though. I think 219 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 1: they were part of the Nelson thing coming, okay, and 220 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 1: I thought they went I mean, I'd have no insight 221 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 1: on this. I assumed Juju comes to them says I'll 222 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:44,319 Speaker 1: play for eight million. They say, I didn't see that comment. 223 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: We can't pass that up. That's a gift, will do it? Hey, 224 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 1: what think you said you called Nelson. Nelson tweeted out 225 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: two days before any of this stuff broke that, And 226 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 1: this is before Jujus ever under even that you know 227 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: they're they're there was something. It was a cryptic tweet, 228 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 1: but it was kind of something like that. I I 229 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 1: think they went to him and again I don't know 230 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 1: this for certain, but hey, we'd like to sign you 231 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:10,839 Speaker 1: to a long term extension to get that cap number 232 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 1: lower this year. And he looks at that and says, well, 233 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: the caps going up to two fifteen million next year. 234 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: He wants to be a free agent after I'll be 235 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: twenty nine years old next year. I can cash ince. 236 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 1: That's my last chance to cash you. I'm not gonna 237 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: lock myself in on a long you know, a two year, 238 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: three year extension at this number when I think next 239 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:33,079 Speaker 1: year the number is going to be much higher. That's 240 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:34,959 Speaker 1: what I think happened here. I thought the same thing, 241 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 1: but I thought it was because of the Juju thing 242 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 1: that they didn't see comming, so they went to somebody 243 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: to make space. But again, j Juju cost one point 244 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 1: six million dollars. They fit him under the cap. They 245 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: signed him immediately and didn't have to do anything. So 246 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: those two were not intertwined. It just happened. It just 247 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: so happened that both broke at the same time, and 248 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: everybody looked at the numbers. Eight million, eight million dollars 249 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 1: signings saving eight million. But they signed you, they signed 250 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: you to immediately because it was one point six million dollars. Yeah, 251 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 1: that makes perfect sense. But I guess I don't get though. 252 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: Why doesn't Nelson just say I don't want to renegotiate, 253 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: but I want to be a stealer this year and 254 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: I'll still be a free agent. Well, I think they're 255 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 1: looking at you know, I just think that, you know 256 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 1: that I don't know whether whether they said, hey, we 257 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 1: want you at this price, and if we can't get 258 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 1: you at this price, then maybe we have to release you. 259 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: I don't know, And so we want to go ahead 260 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: and explore, you know, extending him obviously gets because if 261 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 1: he's released, here's what happens. If they say we're gonna 262 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 1: release you, Well, now he's looking at the market and going, 263 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: I'm not going to get seven or eight million, eight 264 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: point to five million this year on the open market 265 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: at this point, not now, So let me explore a 266 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: trade and see if I can make that happen to 267 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: lock him my eight point to five million, because otherwise 268 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna somebody might try to sign me. I'll 269 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: be lucky if I make it for three years. That's 270 00:13:57,800 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 1: kind of why I was thinking. I don't know what 271 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: that should be broken. You know, like unless somebody offers 272 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: a Steeler, is a nice pick and has cap space, 273 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 1: I think he could be back. Yeah, I'm not ready to. 274 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: I don't know that that happens necessarily because it might 275 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: be the best move for him, or even he adds 276 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: a deal or adds a year. I know one thing 277 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: that's not happening. And people mentioned that I saw this 278 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: last night that the Eagles are are looking for corners 279 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: and they could Yeah, they could potentially make a trade 280 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 1: with the Eagles for you know, the Eagles have two 281 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 1: fifth round picks. You get one of those fifth round 282 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: picks or so it was posed that maybe they'll go 283 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: get they'll just trade trade straight up for zach Ertzer 284 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: because their their base contracts are the same. No, you're 285 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 1: not paying zach Urts eight point to five million dollars 286 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 1: and it creates No, it doesn't save you anything on 287 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: the cap and he's not worth that money. He's he 288 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: was a bad player last year. He was never a 289 00:14:56,680 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: great athlete. We often talk about how tight ends fade 290 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: away slowly and they can finesse it and they're smart 291 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 1: and all that, and I could see that being his 292 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: career path because nothing went well in Philly. But he 293 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: can't block it too. He doesn't. Oh he's the inline 294 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: guy to the Ebron. No, he isn't at all, right, 295 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: And that's that's the one thing with him that you know, Okay, 296 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: he's a receiving tight end who can no longer run. 297 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: Oh no, he can't run it. That's a problem. That's problem. Right, 298 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: He's got to be the crafty, sit down in his 299 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 1: own guy, you know, yeah, body shielding that kind of thing. 300 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 1: But he can't block. That's great if you're Heath Miller 301 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: and they hit the end, right, that's bad if you're 302 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 1: if you're not a blocker. So you know, I look 303 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: at that of the guys that they lost, Okay, Nelson, 304 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: if that happens, Dupree was played, the snaps last year 305 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 1: would have been would have been would have been ninety 306 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: if he doesn't get hurt. But he did and they 307 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: found and they drafted Highsmith to replace him, who, in turn, 308 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: you know a lot more about it because of that. 309 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: Vince Williams two year years ago was a thirty percent 310 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 1: snap guy. See that's what I was gonna say when 311 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: you started naming the snap counts. Is I think they 312 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: were probably happy with all those numbers except for Vince, 313 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 1: which too much, just too much, Vince too much? Right, 314 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: But that was the idea, is to not play Vince 315 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 1: as much? Right, right? Right? Um, Hilton played the snaps. 316 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: Now he missed I believe four games, but he But 317 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 1: they like Sutton. But they like Sutton, right, They made that, 318 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: They made that choice. They made that choice. They probably 319 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: could have had either at the same price. I'm sure 320 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: right around, right around, they pick because he's the more 321 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: he's the more valuable player. We've talked about that the 322 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: entire time. A Lulu missed one game and played three 323 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 1: and a half percent of the snaps. Let's not pretend 324 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: that Tyson, I like Tyson. A Lulu did a good 325 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: job here for four years, but let's not pretend that 326 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: he's some kind of it's something they can't replace. No, 327 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: like I like a Lulu more than warmly. Yeah, absolutely, question, 328 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: But he's not young. He's thirty. He's gonna be thirty 329 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: four years old. Get did you want to tie up 330 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 1: another two year deal with a thirty four year old? Again? 331 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: Three million dollars? He gets signed for three million dollars 332 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 1: a year. He signed a two year deal, right, two years, 333 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: six million dollars. If they really really want to Tyson 334 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 1: Alu Alu, he would be a Steeler to right now. True, 335 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 1: I assumed a lot of that was if we're gonna 336 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:25,880 Speaker 1: get into negotiations, you're gonna lose against the Jags because 337 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 1: they have way more to spend. But they probably a 338 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 1: two million dollar player. I mean that's probably that three 339 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: million is essentially what the Steelers were paying him every year. 340 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 1: They were just like, you know that, that's so they 341 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 1: could have you know, hey, Tyson, we'll just keep extending 342 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 1: there with this same contract that you had. I bet 343 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 1: they didn't offer a two year deal either. Probably probably 344 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 1: here's one year or three million or two years or 345 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:47,959 Speaker 1: three million, go back to Jacksonville and he might get 346 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: cut of the next offseason to save this about, you know, right, 347 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 1: And they offered a little more guaranteed money up front. 348 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 1: That's fine, Yeah, yeah, yeah, But if the Steelers, you know, 349 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 1: if it came down to, okay, we can it's gonna 350 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:00,040 Speaker 1: cost us an extra million for Tyson a Loup, and 351 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:05,120 Speaker 1: we can't live without this guy. They snaps. I hope 352 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 1: Warmly does not play of the snaps. I hope he's 353 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:13,400 Speaker 1: already is yeah somewhere, which still leaves us somebody needed. Yeah, 354 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 1: I think I think there's no doubt. But when you 355 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 1: look at the defensive tackle mark, I mean there are 356 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 1: guys there. As you said in the open the deals 357 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: that are signed from here on out are going to 358 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 1: be team friendly deals any other year. And if you 359 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: look at that defensive tackle position, oh my god, I 360 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 1: mean there's there guys on there who are legit starting 361 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: you know, their NFL players. They have played a lot 362 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 1: of snaps in this league and mon't embarrassing. And they 363 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 1: don't have they don't have a job right now. Do 364 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 1: they want to work if they want to, If they 365 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: want to, you know, get another year towards their pension, 366 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 1: whatever it may be. You got to play and put 367 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 1: some something good on table so you can, you know, 368 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:52,919 Speaker 1: maybe make a little more next year. So I mean 369 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 1: that they played the other part of the equation is 370 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: They played without every one of those guys for at 371 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 1: least a game this year, good point. Every one of 372 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: those guys missed at least one game, and most of 373 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:08,159 Speaker 1: them multiple games. Nelson only missed Week seventeen, though right 374 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 1: he missed one earlier in the year. Hayden was out. 375 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: Hayden was out earlier in the year. But they saw 376 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 1: what it looked like, and they and they and they 377 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 1: also got to see, as you mentioned, because Hayden was out, 378 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 1: both of those young cornerbacks got some playing tea time, 379 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 1: kind of almost like in a high tower manner. So, 380 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: I mean, you've seen what it looks like without these 381 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 1: guy That's how Roberts, you know, Robert Splaine came got 382 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: on the field, I mean unfortunate and see any preseason 383 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 1: snaps of any of those guys, so you kind of 384 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 1: had to see you would roll with them, and probably 385 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:42,360 Speaker 1: were a little nervous to put them in the first time. 386 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,120 Speaker 1: I'm sure you were, Yeah, absolutely, but then you saw 387 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:47,239 Speaker 1: it and go, Okay, that's not so bad. I can 388 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: we can if that's our tenth or eleventh best player 389 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: on the field, because we have what and Cam and 390 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 1: all these other studs, we can win getames like that, 391 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 1: you know, let alone, or if he's a place order 392 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 1: or like we said to open a show, he gets better, 393 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 1: they're allowed to get better. I wrote about you know 394 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 1: that the Steelers obviously think that that Lane were here 395 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: mostly layout. I'm I'm sticking with Lane on this is 396 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 1: you know, a potential They drafted him in a third round. 397 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 1: Take a guy in the third round. You're looking at 398 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 1: him as a potential starter down the road. I'm sure 399 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: they had him as Hayden's replacement if everything goes and 400 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 1: there were guys, there were guys in the draft and 401 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 1: two years ago leading up in the draft, Justin Lane 402 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 1: was a guy that you saw sneak into the end 403 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 1: of the first round and on some drafts. Oh yeah, 404 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 1: he was a brand name guy. Absolutely, there was a 405 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 1: lot of corners that year. They got him at a 406 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 1: good price. Um so it's year three, it's time, like 407 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 1: you need to find out what this guy can do. 408 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 1: And I think they have a pretty good idea what 409 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: this guy could do. You probably get a better feel 410 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: for this than me, But I feel like Steeler Nation 411 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: has already like written him off like he's a bust. Absolutely, 412 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: because he's allowed some catches in the regular See he 413 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 1: didn't play at all in the in the regular base 414 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 1: defense or in in defense. As a rookie. He played 415 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: about a hundred eighteen snaps last year. That's pretty small sample. 416 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: And there are people said, well, he can't play. How 417 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 1: do you know that? You have no idea first off 418 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 1: that position. You only see the bad if you're sitting 419 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 1: there at the TV drinking Budweiser is watching the game. 420 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 1: You know, I doubt what everyone's watching the all twenty 421 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 1: two and watching and breaking it down, and in any preseason, 422 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 1: I mean, what if he what if all of us 423 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 1: to do this for a living, or talking about what 424 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: a great game Justin Lane had in week two of 425 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 1: the preseason, everyone's everyone be like, wow, I'm excited for that. 426 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 1: There's also there's there's also a false narrative out there 427 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: that somehow Pierre passed him at some point during the season, 428 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 1: that he was in the doghouse or something. One they 429 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:49,640 Speaker 1: Pierre played the Browns game ahead of him because they've 430 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 1: stuck with the sides. If you look at it, Hayden 431 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 1: went on the Hayden went on the COVID list on 432 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:59,880 Speaker 1: a Saturday. Okay, so they had practiced all week long 433 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 1: with Pierre. Was Hayden's backup lane was Nelson's on Nelson's side, Yeah, 434 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: they almost the way they play corners almost like tackles, 435 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 1: like you're a backup left tackle. You don't, especially for 436 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 1: those outside guys. So Saturday, Hayden goes on the COVID 437 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 1: list and they say, okay, well we're not going to 438 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: change this now. Plus did they were sitting guys as 439 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 1: it was, It wasn't a matter and you didn't again, 440 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 1: you didn't get a preseason. Let's see what we have 441 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: ja when James Pierre, let's let him play, you know, 442 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 1: his fifteen twenty snaps or whatever it ended the lane. 443 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 1: We know what he is. I don't know he's gotten 444 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: more experienced than this guy. He's at least had a preseason. 445 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: And I don't know which of the two is better 446 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 1: on special teams. But if you have to pick one 447 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 1: of the two, they're both. Yeah, they're well, they're both. 448 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 1: They were both going to be active, and the following week, 449 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 1: because they had the playoff game, they had a full 450 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 1: week to prepare for that. Lane got more snaps than 451 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:58,880 Speaker 1: they both played. Yes, but Lane got Lane out snapped Pierre. 452 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 1: So don't tell me that Pierre somehow pasted Lane. That's 453 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:06,159 Speaker 1: not true. Right right now, they may be somewhat even well, 454 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 1: they might like both, they can like both, just like 455 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 1: both at the same right, but they're not. But Pierre 456 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: has not has not suddenly passed Lane somehow. That's not 457 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: that's not the reality of the situation. And if he does, 458 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: then maybe Pierre is good too. That's allowed to happen. 459 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 1: That's allowed to happen too. Just because the third round 460 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: pick gets past, which we don't think he did, it 461 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 1: doesn't mean he stinks. I mean the other guys guy 462 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 1: could be pretty good. Yeah, they might be fine, but 463 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 1: you'll probably draft Wing nonetheless. But I mean, unless Delphin 464 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 1: comes back again. To me, I think that the guy 465 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 1: that you draft is a slot. I think because you've 466 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: got outside guys. Yeah, what you don't what you don't 467 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 1: have as a Sutton backup in the slot, you don't. 468 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: I mean we thought with Nelson the slot was needed 469 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 1: and that didn't go away. No, I mean that hasn't changed. 470 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's needed more than an outside 471 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,640 Speaker 1: guy or not. I think if Nelson goes, I think 472 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 1: it is because and maybe that's part of the reason 473 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 1: why Nelson looked at this is I don't want to 474 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 1: like they said, hey, Stephen, you're gonna be our backups. 475 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 1: We want you to play some slot. Well, I know 476 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: he doesn't like to do that. I know that they 477 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 1: might tell him Sutton is going to start off asite 478 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 1: Joe and then he's gonna move the slot and when 479 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: we go to Nickel, Wow, I mean, because we like 480 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: Sutting that much. Yeah, I think that's possible. I don't 481 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 1: think you'd say, Nelson, you're gonna be the slot were 482 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 1: we'd like you. They could say, hey, we'd like you to, 483 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 1: we'd like you to work with Cam in the slot 484 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,159 Speaker 1: at times. We'd like to we'd like to see we 485 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 1: want to see lineup in the slot and see what 486 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 1: that looks like. He said, I don't want to do that. 487 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 1: I mean they might tell him we don't think of 488 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: top two corners that could happen to So, I mean 489 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 1: there are there are a lot of things there that 490 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,919 Speaker 1: could happen. You know that we just don't know. Um, 491 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:52,880 Speaker 1: you know, it's not a matter of what because he's 492 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 1: just unhappy and he wants to go no right right right. 493 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 1: I hate it here and I gotta leave or I 494 00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 1: never got that sent Froment. I mean, he and Joe 495 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,360 Speaker 1: Haydn are tight. They visit, you know, they're at each 496 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,640 Speaker 1: other's family's houses every week. Yeah. The more I thought 497 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 1: about it over the weekend, since something hasn't happened already, 498 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:11,120 Speaker 1: I'm wondering. I'm not sure he gets a better deal 499 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 1: somewhere else. I'm not sure that it's a better move 500 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 1: for him not to come back at this cost become 501 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 1: a free agent after the year. But if if they were, 502 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: if they were going to move him to the slot, 503 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 1: and he knows like early in his career, I just 504 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 1: can't see them move into the slot of Sutton's on 505 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 1: the team. But somebody's got to be that backup slot. 506 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 1: Well yeah, I mean there's no doubt with that. And 507 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: that would and that would be him, That would be him, 508 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 1: because you're not taking Mink at the center field to 509 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 1: put him in the slot. No, No, he would definitely 510 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 1: be the backup slot if they played today, And so 511 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 1: he may have looked at and I don't want to 512 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 1: do that. I'm I'm an outside cornerback. I've been in 513 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,120 Speaker 1: the slot. I know what that's like. And it didn't 514 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,640 Speaker 1: go well for me. I can do it, but it's 515 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: not where it's not where I'm the best. And if 516 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 1: I'm heading in the free agency next year, I'm not 517 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 1: putting those snaps. And people are saying, well, you played, 518 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:54,679 Speaker 1: you know you you gave up this amount of catches 519 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,120 Speaker 1: and you pop focus is gonna have a bad grade 520 00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,199 Speaker 1: and you know right no, you don't want to put 521 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 1: those snaps on tape. No, I could see that. I 522 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 1: could see him be in the backups lot because right 523 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 1: now I definitely believe he would be right. So I 524 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 1: do think that that the slot cornerback position one of 525 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 1: those guys. And man, there's a bunch of them that 526 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: can I mean even Trevor Moeg Trevor on the mode 527 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 1: to step in and play the slot for I mean, 528 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 1: they're depending what you want from that position, you know, 529 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: right yeah, big slots and all those different things. That's 530 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 1: a leap of faith that I'm not quite ready to 531 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 1: take because I haven't seen enough of them, of Laye 532 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 1: and Pierre, but they are telling you that they don't 533 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: dislike I think they have. They've seen a lot of them. 534 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 1: They've seen a lot of them. They know and they're 535 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 1: a pretty good idea. Yeah, and we're good at figuring 536 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 1: out what they know by reading the tea leaves. But 537 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 1: I wish I knew a little better that. I mean, 538 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: I know, I mean Pierre was a guy to mean 539 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 1: last year that that flashed during training camp, and some 540 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 1: of it was bad. I mean, you know there was 541 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,360 Speaker 1: a lot of you know, Chase Claypool caught this ball 542 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: over justin Pierre. Chase Claypol did that to a lot 543 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 1: of people. You can't last year with everybody else, um, 544 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 1: but those guys, I mean, that's that's all part of 545 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 1: it as well. Those guys are getting battle tested every 546 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 1: day in practice. You know, hey, go cover, Deonte Johnson, 547 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 1: go covered, Juju, go cover. Chase Claypool, Washington, Pierre, all 548 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 1: you guys who were there. I mean always kind of 549 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 1: kept kept bring his name out, kevering his name up, 550 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:13,919 Speaker 1: and I think people look at him like, oh, he's 551 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,159 Speaker 1: a nice story. He made the team. Oh he might 552 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,880 Speaker 1: be better than that then just well, you know, stuck 553 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 1: around the league for a year or two and made 554 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 1: the team. You know, like I mean six two corners 555 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,640 Speaker 1: that can run. He's like a four or four guy. 556 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,239 Speaker 1: Both those guys out side, you know. So, I mean, 557 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: that's that's what you you know, when you're looking at No, 558 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 1: he does not he is, you know, that's that is 559 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 1: what he is. But we're gonna take a break. He is. 560 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 1: Matt Williamson, I'm Dale Lally. You've been listening to the 561 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:39,920 Speaker 1: Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. We want to thank 562 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,399 Speaker 1: Jacob Breck for keeping us on the air here throughout 563 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 1: the show, and we want to thank you for listening 564 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 1: to this edition of the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio.