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Speaker 1: right there, the Director of Government Affairs. Hers tell us

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Speaker 1: a little bit more about what you do with Ellie normal.

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Speaker 1: My job normal is basically just to give you know,

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Speaker 1: the team and the larger community that normally interacts with

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Speaker 1: visibility into federal state and policy issues. Right, So you're

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Speaker 1: just talking about the federal policy issues, things like the

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Speaker 1: More Act. Then there's st eight policy issues. Right. We

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Speaker 1: have five states that are going to be voting on

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Speaker 1: legal cannabis um. Every almost every presidential election for the

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Speaker 1: past twenty years has been a huge step forward for cannabis, right,

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Speaker 1: going back to ninety six when California legalized it medically

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Speaker 1: tol with Washington and Oregon. So this also has the

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Speaker 1: potential to do that. And the final part of my

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Speaker 1: job is just giving the team visibility into what's happening

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Speaker 1: on the local level. Right, So if a city is

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Speaker 1: going to pass the restrictive canvas ordinance, have to get

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Speaker 1: organized um to combat it. So it's basically pushing forward

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Speaker 1: progress on all three of those dimensions local statement and

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Speaker 1: and that being said, you're very know you gave us

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Speaker 1: a great answer of what we need to do. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: on the you know, big level as far as getting

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Speaker 1: these seats and what can people do say in California,

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Speaker 1: because you're here with l a normal what who should

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Speaker 1: they be voting in for? Locally? Do you have anything

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Speaker 1: off the top of your head with that that people

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Speaker 1: can I mean, I know as I went for that.

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Speaker 1: The House district for my district, Katie Porter is one

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Speaker 1: of them. But I'm not in l A. I'm in

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Speaker 1: Orange County. The race for state as Family District six

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Speaker 1: eight is Melissa Fox. And then as far as Governor

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Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom gets a strong b which is funny that

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Speaker 1: he actually gets to be Lieutenant Governor. Elena cown Caucus.

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Speaker 1: I have no idea what an exactly, but is there

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Speaker 1: anybody in any information that you can spit out right

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Speaker 1: now for the folks that are in l A. As

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Speaker 1: we have, you know, a broad listenership in Los Angeles. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, here's what I would say to everyone in California.

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Speaker 1: What you should be doing is that the city council level. Right,

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Speaker 1: So they're about four hundred and eighties cities in California,

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Speaker 1: only like ninety of those four cities, so one in

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Speaker 1: five allow for egal cannabis sales. Right. But now so

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Speaker 1: many cities are willing to open up because they're stretched,

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Speaker 1: but they need to hear from their citizens because they're

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Speaker 1: only here from the people that are cannabis. If we

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Speaker 1: don't get involved So I think anyone in California, if

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Speaker 1: you're one of the Californians to live in those four

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Speaker 1: hundred cities that does not allow legal cannabis sales, email

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Speaker 1: your city councilors tell them to agendae cannabis speak at

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Speaker 1: those council meetings. That's what I do for every place

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Speaker 1: I've ever lived in California, and I think everyone else

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Speaker 1: I should too. Yeah. We I say that all the time,

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Speaker 1: all the time that you have to get out there

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Speaker 1: at the city level, especially in the state of California.

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Speaker 1: And now is a great time too, because people are,

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Speaker 1: uh we all know that the economy has been suffering

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Speaker 1: of it. So now cities are looking at cannabis programs

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Speaker 1: to expand their tax revenues. So it's it's a good

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Speaker 1: time for city. We gotta we gotta make sure when

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Speaker 1: we come back, we're gonna talk about tax revenues and

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Speaker 1: uh we'll get to the high five or so right

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Speaker 1: after this break. Welcome back to Cannabis Talk one oh one,

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Speaker 1: Mark and Craig, Pop Brothers at Law, Blue and Joe Grande,

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Speaker 1: and we want to give a special thanks to Pitt, Peanut,

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Speaker 1: Gen and Elvis always making it happen behind the scenes,

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Speaker 1: and we are here with l a normal smoke the vote,

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna get into uh some tax issues, big brother,

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Speaker 1: you got one. Not tax issues, but it was something

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Speaker 1: that Bruce said that is really troublesome. He's exactly right.

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Speaker 1: Legal like he said, it should be decriminalized, not legalized

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Speaker 1: as legalized came with a lot of bad stuff. What

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Speaker 1: we need to have is legalization with fair and reasonable

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Speaker 1: taxation and regulation. Where it's it's the reasoning the the

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Speaker 1: ft up part about all these cities, and it's a

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Speaker 1: two edged sword. So on the one hand, they need revenue,

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Speaker 1: they need money, so it's money driven to pass ordinances

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Speaker 1: for cannabis so they can make money as a those too.

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Speaker 1: This is something everybody should have. It's a medicine. It

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Speaker 1: helps and we couldn't make tax dollars off it. And

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Speaker 1: imagine if they didn't have all the regulations and all

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Speaker 1: the extra taxes the state would probably make. And I'm

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Speaker 1: not an economist by any means. C P a nothing,

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Speaker 1: but I'm just thinking, if you know a little bit

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Speaker 1: of a lot rather than a lot of you know,

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Speaker 1: a little of a very little because of the listit

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Speaker 1: market I mean, I just I mind boggled to where

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Speaker 1: they can't see that and we keep preaching that, and

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Speaker 1: I mean I mean that that that they should have

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Speaker 1: rolled back excise taxes already. They should have rolled back.

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Speaker 1: They should have they were gonna stop the cultivation tax

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Speaker 1: for three years. And it just they can't see fit

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Speaker 1: because they all the politicians did it based on money.

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Speaker 1: About about speaking, yeah, pretty much, especially the States. And

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Speaker 1: I'm from Illinois to same thing over there, and it's all,

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Speaker 1: let's get their hand. I mean, they're gonna try to

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Speaker 1: figure out how to squeeze every pan. Yeah, we have

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Speaker 1: to fight. That's how we're here, That's how we are,

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Speaker 1: that's what we're doing what we do. So speaking of fighting,

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Speaker 1: you know, fighting fighting for the vets. You know, Eric,

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Speaker 1: you take care of your Director of Veteran Affairs and uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, we we have a lot of support for

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Speaker 1: for vets out there and their need for cannabis over

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Speaker 1: all those pills. What are you guys doing to help

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Speaker 1: the vets? Thanks? Uh? Also the the Veterans Cannada's Coalition,

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Speaker 1: which is a national group batting for the end of

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Speaker 1: cannabis prohibition very similar to normal UM and under the

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Speaker 1: that shapele of Canvas Coalition. I work with National Normal

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Speaker 1: on federal legislation, but as director of Board at All

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Speaker 1: a Normal for vetter affairs, what I've been focused on

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Speaker 1: essentially two programs. One a SP thirty four compassionate donation

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Speaker 1: program which was enabled by law last year that was

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Speaker 1: signed into UH signing the law by Gathers after being

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Speaker 1: vetoed by Jerry brown Back at the end of right,

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Speaker 1: and the law basically states that canvas AT legal cannabis

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Speaker 1: operators can now donate medical, medical or donate cannabis products

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Speaker 1: to eligible paints. To be an elation, all you need

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Speaker 1: is a doctor's recommendation. You don't need the state issue card.

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Speaker 1: Legal operators can donate to eligible patients and then only

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Speaker 1: have to pay essentially what their production costs are. So

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Speaker 1: you know, if you, as a cultivator, want to donate

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Speaker 1: you know, a certain amount of cannabis to UH to

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Speaker 1: a particular dispensary that that dispensary is then to give

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Speaker 1: out to patients. Basically, you just you know, you know,

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Speaker 1: whatever the tags are in metro right, like you're toggling

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Speaker 1: you know your track and you're saying, hey, this is

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Speaker 1: going to SP thirty four, tell them, tell them what

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Speaker 1: it was before. Tell them what it was before prior

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Speaker 1: to right, So prior to SP thirty four. Basically, if

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Speaker 1: you want to donate cannabis, legally, you had to pay

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Speaker 1: the full retail price on it, no matter what you know,

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Speaker 1: what stage of production you're in. Under SP thirty four,

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Speaker 1: I think if it was constructed optimally, right, because you'd

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Speaker 1: have to basically organize the retailer, the distributor, and the

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Speaker 1: manufacturer cultivator. Right. But if you can get all three

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Speaker 1: of those entities, sometimes they're the same entity right on

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Speaker 1: board with with basically designating certain products for donation, and

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Speaker 1: that way, every step of the way, each operator gets

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Speaker 1: excused the taxes. So the cultivator gets excused the cultivation tax,

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Speaker 1: you know, the disputer gets excused the US tax. Retailer

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Speaker 1: gets excused the excise tax. Yeah, well that that lowers

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Speaker 1: the barrier I think to donations quite a bit. And

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Speaker 1: currently UM there's a handful of SP thirty four UH

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Speaker 1: donation programs operating in the state primarily and they UM

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Speaker 1: largely with Warriors Project Operation EVAC getting veterans about cannabis

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Speaker 1: UH in UM in partnership I think with Sweet Leave Collective,

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Speaker 1: which Warriors has UH going on in southern California as well.

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Speaker 1: I know they're they're doing work in Riverside in l A. Both. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we do a lot of Cannabis Coalition. Yeah, they do

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Speaker 1: a lot of good work. That is Cannabis Coalition. UH

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Speaker 1: started one of the one of the first um SP

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Speaker 1: thirty four donation programs in Orange well the first one

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Speaker 1: in Orange County. I think it's still the only one

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Speaker 1: in Orange County with cannabis works down there. And we've

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Speaker 1: and since March, we've organized I think five or six

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Speaker 1: um donations going out to veterans and serving UM you know,

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Speaker 1: we've already donated tens of thousands of dollars worth of

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Speaker 1: products just at one dispensary and within normal Basically, I'm

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Speaker 1: looking to help develop and expand that and and while

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Speaker 1: the while the focus is still on veterans, right, we

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Speaker 1: understand that parents don't exist in the vacuum and reasons

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Speaker 1: is why you know we have what we have as

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Speaker 1: far as patients in the state is because of the

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Speaker 1: coalition of veterans and patients. You consider, you know, Dennis

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Speaker 1: Prone being a Vietnam War veteran and working with other

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Speaker 1: uh you know, like dy'lleh. I think Dale Garange from

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Speaker 1: cal Normal is also a veteran. I believe I've had

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Speaker 1: that right. Um. A lot of the you know, a

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Speaker 1: lot of the initial propisy are excuse me prop to

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Speaker 1: fifts folks um were you know, they were all patients

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Speaker 1: and veteran focus for the most part. So I think

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Speaker 1: that the SP thirty four is name is specifically in

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Speaker 1: honor of Dennis Brown and Brownie Mary uh Brownie Mary

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Speaker 1: rathbun Um. So, you know, I think that's a it's

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Speaker 1: an important of all this discussion about you know, cannabis

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Speaker 1: legalization or decriminalization or everything else, seeing what's happening in California,

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Speaker 1: especially if how legalization has you know, left and abandoned

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Speaker 1: a lot of patients who relied on what was the

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Speaker 1: kind of loose uh flow of of cannabis that was

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Speaker 1: available you know under before Prop six be four important, yeah,

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Speaker 1: so important to take care of those vets who have

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Speaker 1: taken care of our country and look and with Normal

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Speaker 1: doing so many different things. I think it's uh, now

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Speaker 1: we can talk to Eric or not Eric, I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: Brett Director of technology, getting all this information out there

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Speaker 1: connecting with people, especially in the times of this pandemic. Brett,

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Speaker 1: I would assume that your your job has increased a

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Speaker 1: bit during the pandemic once you talk about that. Most

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Speaker 1: definitely thank you guys for having us on today. My

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Speaker 1: role internally for the organization is to make sure that

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Speaker 1: our technologies TACK, our website is up and running, that

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Speaker 1: our team is able to post timely and museful information. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And then also on the back end, to make sure

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Speaker 1: that we have the tools that are needed to keep

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Speaker 1: us connected and sure that we can operate, especially during

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Speaker 1: the time during a pandemic. You know, we were just

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Speaker 1: getting ready to relaunch our chapter in March and April

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Speaker 1: when quarantine hit. We had a list this big of

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Speaker 1: events that we're getting ready to post. Uh. So you know,

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Speaker 1: from a consumer perspective, then, UH, my job is to

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Speaker 1: present information and education about new technologies that are coming

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Speaker 1: up around UNIBUS. Think about all of the software platforms

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Speaker 1: that we have now where a consumer can go and

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Speaker 1: order cannabis online. We have a designation between recreation medical,

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Speaker 1: but this quote unquote patient data back end is not

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Speaker 1: applicu uh is not considered the same as our current

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Speaker 1: patient data that has to be hip HOP certified. So

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Speaker 1: we have a whole bunch of early data um that's

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Speaker 1: not really being protected as much as it could be.

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Speaker 1: So as consumers, we need to make sure that we

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Speaker 1: approach these technologies with cautures and we need to make

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Speaker 1: sure that our voices heards so that the technologies that

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Speaker 1: we use are safe and secure. Force going forward, how

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Speaker 1: did you get involved with NORMAL? To begin with? I've

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Speaker 1: actually been a member of the Orange County Chapter for

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Speaker 1: a couple of the now that's where I'm Ian. And

640
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 1: when Ian approached me and said, hey, Bruce and I

641
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: have been talking about explaining the l H would you

642
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,800
Speaker 1: be interested in helping us out that. I was definitely

643
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,720
Speaker 1: on board, enjoying my time with the Orange County Chapter

644
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 1: so much that I wanted to come aboard with Los

645
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 1: Angeles and make a difference here as well. Now is

646
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 1: Elizabeth your wife? Now? I thought the MAC I had

647
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: to have seen that, right, I see that, I can

648
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,879
Speaker 1: see that. And Elizabeth thought, as you just mentioned her,

649
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,439
Speaker 1: how did you become the queen of the staff over

650
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 1: there at l A NORMAL? You're the only lady on

651
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 1: the board how did you become a part of the

652
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 1: only woman on the point. How about this, You're the

653
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 1: only one that had the courage to come on with

654
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 1: us today, you're the only woman there. She's the brave

655
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 1: one today. How did you get involved with the Elizabeth? Um,

656
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 1: it's a pleasure to be here. You know, I I was,

657
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 1: I was not the first woman, but then there were

658
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 1: a couple more. Then they dropped off and now I

659
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 1: am and and then Sharon joined us a few months

660
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 1: ago in marketing. So um, you know, we need more women.

661
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 1: But you know, the other thing is who's who's well, okay,

662
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 1: statistics like who's smoothing pot? They say, like males eighteen

663
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 1: and thirty, you know, is the demographic. These guys are

664
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 1: all a little older than that. But you know, we're

665
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 1: we're looking to change the stigma across the board. And

666
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 1: the other thing is, you know, I'm thinking about what

667
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,919
Speaker 1: we discussed earlier. Um, you know, with respect to the legislators,

668
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 1: they just don't understand because that's they think they have

669
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 1: that same stiff they have that same idea that it's

670
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 1: like males eighteen and thirty using weed. Uh, and it's

671
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,320
Speaker 1: completely erroneous. So we're gonna do what we can to

672
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 1: change that. It is so funny. And not only that,

673
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 1: even when you look at the statistics of people that

674
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:02,320
Speaker 1: are going into legal dispense reads, it's like forty five plus.

675
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 1: It's not your eighteen to thirty five demographic. That's not

676
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 1: quote is your legal one. And I'm saying it's forty

677
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:12,320
Speaker 1: five plus across the all eleven states that have it

678
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:16,439
Speaker 1: for recreation. You can why because they feel safer going

679
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 1: in there. They know they're buying dealers, they're getting it

680
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 1: from their friends, just getting them from Yeah, I mean,

681
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 1: that's that's to me a no brainer. But it's still

682
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 1: one of those scenarios where you gotta chop down on

683
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 1: the black market a little more, make it more reasonable

684
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 1: and the rehab that is by doing taxes at a

685
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 1: reasonable rates to making it towards the street. Dealer can't

686
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: make as much, yeah, if not not more. Of course

687
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 1: they're making more who we can. Sometimes they take losses

688
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 1: that the people in the stores don't, So it's getting wrong. Yeah,

689
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 1: that's part of doing business, part of the game, that's

690
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 1: part of being a criminal blue Yeah, but it is.

691
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 1: But boys, But but for those same people in the industry,

692
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 1: it's it was. It was a criminal before they got

693
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 1: involved to it was the same game you trying to say,

694
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 1: you're saying back in the day though it was it

695
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 1: was a crime first, defend it later under s before

696
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: so it was always a crime. It still is. But

697
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 1: the fact, the fact is this going back, we got

698
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 1: to go back to Elizabeth comment about we're got to

699
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:28,919
Speaker 1: change this overall stigma. And as much as we are

700
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 1: in the polls so to speak, people's um acceptance of

701
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 1: cannabis has grown, you know, exponentially, but it's still putting

702
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 1: faces to it. Like we get out there, as Attorney's going,

703
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 1: if you don't like me smoking, then don't hire me,

704
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 1: you know, don't listen to my show if you think

705
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 1: I'm a stoner if that's what you if you think

706
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 1: of stoner Spicoli from Fast Times and you know you

707
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 1: live with that was but live with that, you know,

708
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 1: and then this is we're changing and if we all

709
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 1: need to go on social media and smoke. You actually

710
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 1: use the line from him you said, don't get don't

711
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 1: eat your food today on my time, and that was

712
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 1: that was from Fast Time, that ridge. One time I

713
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 1: did order a pizza for us. It should be here

714
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 1: our time. And you know, it's just so funny how

715
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 1: we got to change that stigma. I agree, So I

716
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: don't I don't know how to get the masses of

717
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 1: the professionals who smoke weed to come out of the closet,

718
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,800
Speaker 1: out of the green the green closet, come out day. No,

719
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 1: we have If you want the professionals to come out

720
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 1: of the closet, we have to change the taxation because

721
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 1: we can then change the products. Right, what I've been

722
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 1: going to do for six years is to build the

723
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 1: people four in the cavas industry, right, and so like

724
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 1: if you have tasters, topicals, fully extracted oil, sublabal strips,

725
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 1: different ways of administering this medicine, and people will start

726
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 1: to interpret it differently. Not very good point is that

727
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 1: for certain medicinal products we have a separate taxation because

728
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 1: if I'm convincing somebody and I already worked over all

729
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 1: that stigma. This is like a seven year old who

730
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 1: goes into looks at that hundred dollar bottle of tincture

731
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 1: and now they've got me a hundred five? Are you

732
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 1: kidding me? So that has to change, right, you go

733
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:17,879
Speaker 1: to Walgreens, You're not paying tax on your medicines. Yeah, right, right,

734
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 1: right now? What the only the only benefit of getting

735
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 1: your actual County I D card is not paying the

736
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 1: use tax and then that's all it does for the

737
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 1: medical patient. How about we get these insurances to cover

738
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 1: it too at one point, I mean, how great states,

739
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 1: other states, other states have done that. When that's when

740
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 1: it really starts coming into play and when you can

741
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 1: start using your insurance. Going states have done that back East,

742
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 1: I believe I can't tell you the states, but I

743
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:45,880
Speaker 1: know I've read it and they have all. There was

744
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 1: a work comp case, there was a word comp case.

745
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 1: I spent twenty years an insurance first hand in hostiles,

746
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 1: the next twenty in insurance in the last six years.

747
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 1: But insurance is not going to cover this until it's deep.

748
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,280
Speaker 1: So we have to get it out of control sex

749
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 1: first of all. But emdb D. I've been asking employers

750
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 1: to do a demonstration project where we can take CBD

751
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 1: to a five hundred long boy group, have a hunter

752
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 1: of the employees sign up to get free CBD every

753
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 1: day for a year, uh and see what happens. We

754
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:19,839
Speaker 1: can spend lost curves on all their pharmaceuticals, paying depression, pressure, diabetes, etcetera.

755
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 1: Were and then and you know, incorporate other health promotion

756
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 1: activities and change productivity and the costs of true healthcare

757
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 1: in that experiment. I mean, you know, if you know

758
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 1: what it wants to set me up on it, I

759
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 1: can design the coverage. You know what's crazy, what's absolutely

760
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 1: crazy about what you just said is I've been practicing

761
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:43,359
Speaker 1: over twenty five years work comp law representing injured workers,

762
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 1: and I've had major injured workers on so many different

763
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 1: types of meds. And then they come to me, and

764
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 1: this is over the years and say I'm thinking of

765
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 1: trying cannabis. I'm like, well, I'm not your doctor, but

766
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 1: I don't see why not talk about yourself though, the

767
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 1: revolution that you have, That's what I mean, No, no,

768
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 1: but no. But what I was gonna say, though, is

769
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 1: this guy's on seven different pain pills and God knows

770
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 1: what for each pill to take a different pill. Then

771
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 1: it's the stomach issue. You gotta take a pill for

772
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 1: that issue. And then you're over using that arm because

773
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:14,879
Speaker 1: you hurt that arm and they didn't treat it right,

774
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 1: and before you know it, you're spiraling out of control,

775
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 1: and uh, we go to the insurance kind to go

776
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 1: for you know, hundred bucks a week. This guy just

777
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 1: went to medical marijuana and he's off all his opiates.

778
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 1: He's not gonna try to kill himself anymore. And they nope.

779
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 1: I even went to court once over it, and I

780
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 1: knew I was gonna lose, but I had to give

781
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:36,800
Speaker 1: it a try. And and until the state law changes,

782
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 1: they really need to change. The other states that have

783
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 1: enacted legalization of some sort a lot of them have

784
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 1: protections for the employees. And then the insurance companies California,

785
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 1: I know, not calif No, it's it's still old school.

786
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 1: They can do what they want fired for any reason

787
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:56,320
Speaker 1: or no reason, but not an impermissible reason. They're probably

788
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 1: gonna lose money all the way around somehow, you know,

789
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 1: because of the the insurance companies are picking up. You know,

790
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 1: the insurance companies. The insurance company is not going to

791
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 1: change the premium. They're gonna have less, less medical bills

792
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 1: to pay out. It's gonna be better for them. They're

793
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 1: less money they're paying out. Said, they can't do that

794
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 1: until it's federally Yeah, they're not gonna come. They can't

795
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 1: go to these to go Hey, guess what we're going

796
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 1: to do. The hell you are? You know what I mean? Believe,

797
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 1: I believe there has been a state case somewhere that

798
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 1: has actually said they had to pay. Really yeah, and

799
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 1: it was yes, they had exhausted all the other options

800
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 1: and this was the only thing that worked, and they

801
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:40,359
Speaker 1: did forced them to pay. But it's an outlier, right,

802
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 1: so we have to change all of this. People are

803
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 1: are deducting CD from the counts. They can't do that,

804
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,800
Speaker 1: but the far they're saying, it's something else. Uh, there's

805
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,320
Speaker 1: all kinds of ways to, you know, get this this through.

806
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 1: But the more ract has to pass. It has to

807
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 1: be the schedule. Well more rat has to pass. Get

808
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 1: out there and vote to make sure you rock the vote.

809
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,879
Speaker 1: Go to the upsite l A normal dot org go

810
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 1: check that out. You guys, It's now time for the

811
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 1: high five. We're gonna do it with you four on there.

812
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 1: We just did it with you Ian, so we want

813
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 1: to do the high five with the rest of the

814
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 1: l A Normal crew. I'm gonna start asking you a

815
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 1: question and the rest of us up here, I'm gonna

816
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 1: ask a question. Elizabeth, you'll answer first, because you're the

817
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 1: queen up there on the board. And then Nicholas, you'll

818
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 1: answer second, Brett you'll go third. Eric, you'll clean up

819
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 1: the pack by answering the same question. Last the question

820
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 1: number one for you, Elizabeth and the rest of you three.

821
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 1: How old are we the first time you smoked weed?

822
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 1: And where did you get it from? And it was

823
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 1: from a boy down the street? Which street was this?

824
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 1: Where would you where you grow up at? Uh? It

825
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 1: was in Install, Illinois and yeah it was. It was

826
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 1: in in my neighborhood. He I knew him my whole life,

827
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:58,359
Speaker 1: and he had he had some joints, and he asked

828
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,799
Speaker 1: if I wanted to, all right, set out in a

829
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 1: park and and had it. It was pretty cool, like

830
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 1: a thirteen year old little girl getting high. What about you, Nicholas,

831
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 1: You're I'm You're on mute, Nicholas, but I'm gonna repeat it.

832
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 1: You're a thirteen year old little girl as well. And

833
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 1: your neighborhood, So mine was I was sixteen years old.

834
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 1: I was not vacation up in Yuki, Wisconsin with my

835
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 1: buddies older sister who was probably five or six years

836
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:29,360
Speaker 1: Lord and Nous so they're in their twenties right. So

837
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 1: she had a group of friends. We're all there and

838
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 1: so mobiling up and you pee like I said, and

839
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 1: they'd be pulled over and they pulled out a joint

840
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 1: and I happened to smoke it, and I got back

841
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:43,800
Speaker 1: on them and that was that. That's a very good memory.

842
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,359
Speaker 1: It was pretty cool. That sounds like a fun one there.

843
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 1: That's a good time. What about you, Brett? I was

844
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 1: eighteen at a friend's party. We had the little tinfoil fight.

845
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:56,479
Speaker 1: Everybody was passing around just talking about what a nice,

846
00:45:56,560 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 1: classy party you were at an eighteen know it? That pipe?

847
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 1: We've done that? I hope it was just weed and tin.

848
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 1: Foor old pipe buddy. What about you? Eric? Uh? Yeah,

849
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 1: I guess I got got the oldest one. So I

850
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 1: was five, uh and I was seven years in the army,

851
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 1: so I was just like a year out from my

852
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 1: from my exit the service and at a friend's party

853
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:25,879
Speaker 1: smoked the bowl. Been in my life. Well, Eric, thank

854
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 1: you for your service and everything else that you do

855
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 1: for all the community and all of us out here.

856
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 1: Of course my pleasure. I feel like a darrelict. We're

857
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 1: starting with the next question. That's Joe just messing with you.

858
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,359
Speaker 1: Don't let him. Get to you. Next question. You know

859
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 1: what thirteen nowadays is? Well, these kids are having weed

860
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 1: at eight Elizabeth, what perfumer are you wearing? Guilty? Guilty pleasure?

861
00:46:52,680 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 1: Over there? All right? Question? What is your favorite way

862
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:07,840
Speaker 1: to use cannabis? Starting with you? Elizabeth? Okay? So I

863
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:12,879
Speaker 1: well several, but most of the time through tinctures. Um.

864
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 1: I have a big album kid for tinctures. I take

865
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:18,320
Speaker 1: an a sortment of tinctures every day with some really

866
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 1: oregon ham cbd uh. Then I have a couple of

867
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 1: eight pens and after dinner I have on Squire five

868
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 1: milligram PHC and that helps stitch everything up. So multimodal, girl,

869
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 1: that's really good. What about your alright question? Hold on

870
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:39,720
Speaker 1: you guys, please Nick go ahead. I'm an old school

871
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 1: of flower guys. So I like to do um joint

872
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 1: like like the physical activity, the hand crafted of doing

873
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 1: a joint, sitting down, rolling it, smoking, It'll be a

874
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 1: deal way. But I also do like a little water

875
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 1: pipe and I do edibles as well. So those are

876
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 1: my top three joint joint the old school classic joint way.

877
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 1: Brett about you, my favorite way to consume is yes,

878
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 1: but to be more specific, uh is definitely the most

879
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 1: effective for me. Join boles, bonds, blunts, whatever. But of

880
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 1: course you know from certain it's called for different things,

881
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 1: so edibles, concentrates. Um, that's how I like to consider.

882
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 1: I just love it. How it's like, you know, it's

883
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 1: your normal young guys up here. This is to get high.

884
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 1: You know what about you? Eric? Yeah, I've always been

885
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 1: a big fan of water pipes, so I'm still uh,

886
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 1: still smoking out of bonds, but we moved on to

887
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 1: dadding as well. But I'm a big fan of traits,

888
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 1: specially California. Yep. It's amazing how many different ways a

889
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:58,280
Speaker 1: little a little bit of fo uh. The top question

890
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:01,280
Speaker 1: number three of the High five l a normal guy's

891
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:05,320
Speaker 1: craziest place you ever used cannabis or smoked it? Alright,

892
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 1: Queen Disneyland. Yeah, the little carts that go across the sky,

893
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 1: the little tram, you know, going to joint in one

894
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 1: of those. That one felt so risky. It was, it was,

895
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 1: that's very risky. I would have never guessed. Cheek you

896
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 1: out there. Yeah, that does sound like a good spot though,

897
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 1: because you're you know, dissipate, it's gonna dissipate rather quick.

898
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:35,919
Speaker 1: You know, it's gonna smell smell. Oh no, but they're

899
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:38,399
Speaker 1: they're a way to dissipate. They're like the Feds. They've

900
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:41,799
Speaker 1: got exactly everywhere. Yeah, they caught her doing it, but

901
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 1: she's gangster, and I like that about you. Nicholas, what

902
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 1: about you. I don't think I have any crazy places

903
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 1: I've done it. I mean everywhere I've done it. I

904
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 1: feel it was the right place to do it. But

905
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 1: I guess um when I first did it was probably

906
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 1: I've never done it. I'm on a machine in the

907
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 1: middle of the tundra, driving on late the frozen lake

908
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 1: and going for the first time, So I guess that

909
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 1: would be the craziest. No, that's good, That's that's crazy

910
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 1: for you. Brett, what about you. I was at an

911
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 1: I T conference that had rented out Universal Universal Orlando

912
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:19,319
Speaker 1: for in the show, and so we were able to

913
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:23,840
Speaker 1: consume on the roller coast. Wow, that's nice. And Eric, Yeah,

914
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 1: the Uh. I used to work in Arlington in Washington,

915
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 1: d C. So I was like half a mile from

916
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 1: the d A headquarters. My buddy and I could uh

917
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 1: will take you know, night nighttime drives oken once right, Uh,

918
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 1: you know, as go to be past the d ah

919
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:43,319
Speaker 1: just watching. You're like, man, we're gonna hit this right here,

920
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:49,880
Speaker 1: let's see. Alright, alright, Question number four of the Cannabis

921
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:52,400
Speaker 1: Talk one on one High five with the l a

922
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 1: normal board. Elizabeth, start with you. What is your go

923
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:03,880
Speaker 1: to munchies when you get high? Pineapple? Cut up pineapple

924
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 1: every week and so I'll just like open that up

925
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 1: in my tup word and I'll do this and listen

926
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:12,320
Speaker 1: the mouse to pineapple. That's always fun. Pineapple going all right, Nicholas,

927
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 1: how about you your favorite? Go too much? I guess

928
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 1: a similar thing would be a mango for me, just

929
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:21,720
Speaker 1: like the pineapple is at shark favor when you're stowing

930
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 1: your your senses that are heightened. So if there's a

931
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 1: fresh man go in the house, it's it. But my

932
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 1: mouth is watering. Alright, Brett, what about you? Man Goo

933
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 1: accentuates the hide just so you know, Mano peaks up.

934
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 1: That's everybody, just everybody just decided now hanges alright, alright, Brett?

935
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 1: What is your go to mun cheese? I like the

936
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 1: salty snacks, salty anything salty. So Joe you're in here

937
00:51:56,320 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 1: like you all right? Eric? How about you? Yeah? I

938
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 1: gotta sweet too, so yeah, definitely on like ice cream

939
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:09,760
Speaker 1: shake kind of side of things. He said, boom yeah, sweet,

940
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 1: all up my alley, sweet salty and fruit. Question number

941
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:15,839
Speaker 1: five of the high five. You guys, if you could

942
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 1: smoke cannabis with anyone dead are alive, who would it

943
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 1: be and why? Elizabeth? I would take Obama. I just

944
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 1: love Obama and I would love to smoking joint with

945
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:31,799
Speaker 1: Obama and just have the most amazing conversation and then

946
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:36,840
Speaker 1: redo healthcare for uh everything. I bet the things he

947
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:38,439
Speaker 1: would have to share you would have to say about

948
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 1: Trump would be quite amusing together. Right, you don't have

949
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 1: the time, Nicholas, what about you? H Well, I mean

950
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:51,319
Speaker 1: i'd say since we did Chong, I'd say, um be

951
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 1: real from cybers Man, just because coming up a kid,

952
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:56,839
Speaker 1: you know, fifteen years old all the way you're from

953
00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 1: l Azing. I just gotta throw in. Man, we did

954
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 1: the hot box with him, Man, that was crazy. Yeah,

955
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 1: we did it, my brother, I did the hot box

956
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 1: with him. It was insane. Thanks for falling. It's actually

957
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 1: called the smoke box, smoke box, hot box in the

958
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 1: smoke box. Yeah, either way, you got to do it

959
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 1: for that though, Mark, that was to get it right.

960
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 1: And what about you, Brett h The first Owner movie

961
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 1: I ever really got into was Half Baked, and so

962
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 1: I'd really like, Yeah, that'd be a good one. I

963
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 1: like Dave Chappelle, Eric, anybody in the cast, but it

964
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 1: would be awesome. I'll go with someone wearing the shirt.

965
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 1: Might as well go to someone, Uh, Bob Marley, I

966
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 1: mean yeah, I can't. I can't think of anyone else

967
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 1: who's done more to like he stigmatized cannabis. Then you

968
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 1: know guy who exported a reggae you know, to the world.

969
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 1: So Bruce on there, I mean, yeah, it's just yeah,

970
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 1: you're right there. Eric. I mean when you think of

971
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:02,799
Speaker 1: a legendary and you think of cannabis, I mean, Bob

972
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 1: Marley is I mean, who gets higher than that of

973
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 1: the I try some of that. You're making Lamb's breath too.

974
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 1: That that I hear that land races out there? And

975
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:16,479
Speaker 1: do we have Bruce Mark Golan on the phone or group? Bruce?

976
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:21,759
Speaker 1: Are you there? He's muted? Is he is he there?

977
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 1: I would love to get his answers to these questions

978
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 1: real quick. Yeah, can you hear me now? Bruce, welcome back.

979
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:32,319
Speaker 1: Let's do them all Bruce. We're gonna run through these

980
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:34,279
Speaker 1: questions with you. Bruce. How old are you the first

981
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:36,280
Speaker 1: time he smoked weed? And where did you get it from? Bruce?

982
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:42,399
Speaker 1: I was like back back back, already lost four years

983
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 1: old from one of my hottiest says to go on

984
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:47,799
Speaker 1: with many many years ago. You know, the sweed wasn't

985
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:50,360
Speaker 1: popular like it was today, at least a monst my

986
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 1: people have. I thought with high schoolbody was into that

987
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 1: at that point. Okay, I learned about it. Question that's

988
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 1: the question number two of the High five. Welcome to

989
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 1: the show, Craig, what is your favorite way to use cannabis?

990
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 1: So like the old joint that's like I traded, easier

991
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 1: to type traded. How much I'm taking in? It's less

992
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:12,439
Speaker 1: best person of my thought. We've been using it. We've

993
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 1: been using the the we call it the Falco bag,

994
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 1: but it's usually personally we've better smoke good. It's like

995
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 1: some down for the old joints. I'm a joint smoking.

996
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:26,839
Speaker 1: That's when it comes down to I'm edible guy right

997
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:30,240
Speaker 1: this moment. So question number three of the High five Moment,

998
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:35,360
Speaker 1: Question number three, craziest place You've ever used cannabis or

999
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 1: smoked it. Bruce, Well, probably uh this thing. But I

1000
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:42,399
Speaker 1: remember once I had a federal case when my who

1001
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 1: was going to go into twelve sales of here one case.

1002
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 1: He was in the one of the one of the

1003
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:50,359
Speaker 1: back rooms, the coustle rooms and eas small joints back there.

1004
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:52,360
Speaker 1: And I think I might have taken the talk that

1005
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:58,800
Speaker 1: was many years ago by the most crazy place alright.

1006
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 1: Question number four of the Cannabis Talk one on one

1007
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 1: High five with the famous Bruce Smart Goldan, what is

1008
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:08,279
Speaker 1: your goat to MUNCHIESE? When you get high? I don't

1009
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 1: know if you get too many much? He's got favor

1010
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 1: the truth. But I like chocolate, like dark chalking, So

1011
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:17,399
Speaker 1: I guess that's my ain't nothing like some good dark

1012
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 1: chocolate and it's good for you. Number five of the

1013
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:23,840
Speaker 1: High five with the founder and director of l A Normal.

1014
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:27,240
Speaker 1: If you could smoke cannabis with anyone dead or alive,

1015
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 1: who would it be? I know you guys think this

1016
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:34,919
Speaker 1: was crazy and maybe not relevant moment Ali, that's anybody's answer.

1017
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:39,239
Speaker 1: But why the greatest of all time the goat Muhammad Ali? Why? Good?

1018
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:41,759
Speaker 1: Why him? Why? Because I think I think it was

1019
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 1: a both guys, I remember man, he was a champion.

1020
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 1: He spoke, he talked to talk, he walked the Wawston

1021
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 1: you got picture him and he won. Just a wonderful guy.

1022
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 1: That's all the words to it, you know. You know. Yeah,

1023
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 1: I got a chance to meet him prior to our

1024
00:56:57,120 --> 00:57:00,400
Speaker 1: after and he's, oh my god, here we go. Yeah, guy,

1025
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:03,799
Speaker 1: very funny and the stories that he would do, even

1026
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:06,240
Speaker 1: when he had you know, his parks everything, he would

1027
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 1: still crack jokes with people. And he's still just a character.

1028
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 1: Like you know, even would you say about me like

1029
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 1: I mean, get it out here, he's he just was

1030
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 1: a character to the I love him and I love

1031
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 1: that you said that. You're actually the first person to

1032
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 1: say Mohammad Ali, which is funny that that you say that,

1033
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 1: And like I said, it makes me able to tell

1034
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 1: the story. And Craig get jealous because he's only met

1035
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 1: I don't know who, but uh the chan he met you. Yeah,

1036
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 1: and I was there with you, buddy. So great, great answer,

1037
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 1: Great time having you guys. Is there anything else that

1038
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 1: you guys like to share with everyone before and plug

1039
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 1: anything else? Yeah, we have a guy, have a guy

1040
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 1: funny with the uh DA in Los Angeles against uh Macy,

1041
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 1: Jackie Macy. His name is us you know, I'm talking

1042
00:57:56,600 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 1: about for a that's got to vote for it. What's

1043
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 1: your name? George? George, No, no, nest name I'm talking

1044
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 1: about Yeah, okay, okay, good, Yeah, Well he's a guy

1045
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:17,920
Speaker 1: as far as active. Sure, so talk to you advice,

1046
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 1: want to consider Okay, anybody having to clean on that

1047
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 1: don't know? Hey, necklace, you wanna tell everybody what we

1048
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 1: got coming up on the Yeah, yeah it's going through. Yeah,

1049
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 1: I can do that. So October you can join us

1050
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 1: uh four GM Spoke to Vote events, which you will

1051
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:41,280
Speaker 1: have some celebrities including Tommy Chong, Brett Harrelson, Shubinski will

1052
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 1: be on the show and many many more. So it

1053
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 1: could be an hour long program just like our other

1054
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 1: public meetings hour on zoom. You can join in public

1055
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 1: Q and A. We're gonna do a lot of cool

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