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Actually, isn't it. 18 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: Ye're still try to figure out how Yes, well, but 19 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 1: we won't have shock today, so it's. 20 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 2: Just going to be me and Arch. 21 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: Good news is is I actually got two guys this 22 00:00:57,640 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: week that we're on the call, Arch with the Falcons 23 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: call I was on for the national radio call, so 24 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: we were both there. 25 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 2: We were able to. 26 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: Take in all of the plays of the Falcons thirty 27 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: to twenty four loss in overtime to the Washington commander. 28 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: So artists, go ahead and break this down, because, as 29 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 1: you and I talked at halftime briefly, in this game 30 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: kind of ended up being like a tale of two halves. Right, 31 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: Like the first half, Atlanta was doing pretty much whatever 32 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: they wanted, especially in the running game. A lot of 33 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 1: credit to the offensive line. I think Bijon Robinson continued 34 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: to show the commanders why he's one of the better 35 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 1: backs in the league. How many people he made miss. 36 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: So let's just talk about what you saw in the 37 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: first half and why Atlanta was able to develop that 38 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:41,680 Speaker 1: lead in the first thirty minutes. 39 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought that the control of the line of 40 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 3: scrimmage is certainly worth talking about. Rack. I think that, 41 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 3: you know, whenever Bijon gets things going and he has 42 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 3: the ability We've talked about it multiple times to make 43 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 3: people miss in the backfield or make people miss at 44 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 3: that initial point of contact and then get additional yards, 45 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 3: and he did some of that in the game. But 46 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 3: I thought the offensive line, the tight ends, even the 47 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 3: wide receivers did a really pretty good job of getting 48 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 3: Washington block to provide opportunities. Because when Tyler Algier came in, 49 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 3: Algier was busting them with run games as well. So 50 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 3: the run game was outstanding. I think you ran for 51 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 3: ride at one hundred yards in the first half, but 52 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 3: Jean had like eighty two yards rushing in the first half, 53 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 3: and so you were doing the kind of things that 54 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 3: you need to do. Plus you were being given the opportunity. 55 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 3: Your defense was doing a pretty good job of himing 56 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 3: in one of the better players young players in the 57 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 3: league and jayde Daniels in the first half. So I 58 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 3: thought the complimentary football piece of playing really good defense, 59 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 3: you know, playing situational defense. They were one for four 60 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 3: on third down in the first half. Now Atlanta was 61 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 3: zero for four on third down. But fortunately you were 62 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 3: able to get enough footing and move the football enough 63 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 3: to be able to put points on the board. Michael 64 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 3: gets a little bit, you know, one of his receivers 65 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 3: runs an improper route or route he didn't expect. That's 66 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 3: what led to the first interception that gives them a 67 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 3: short field they going cash. I thought the key moment 68 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 3: in the first half for me was Pennis in the 69 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 3: offense coming back on the field after giving up that 70 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 3: short field touchdown and the interception to answer. They go 71 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 3: seven plays seventy yards and they punch it in the 72 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 3: end zone with John Robinson, I thought that was a 73 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 3: really cool statement on the road. Now, you and I 74 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 3: have both been in that building. We've played in the 75 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 3: you know you played in that building. I played in 76 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 3: the old RFK. But those fans can really get pretty rabid. 77 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 3: I thought it was a playoff atmosphere, and I thought 78 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 3: them scoring early kind of put you behind the eight 79 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 3: ball of it. To be able to answer that touchdown 80 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 3: with a seven play seventy yard drive and punch it 81 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 3: in it kind of cooled things down a little bit 82 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 3: in the building, and they still stayed pretty high, but 83 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 3: it's still it gave you a lot of confidence, and 84 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 3: I think it was a you got punched in the face, 85 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 3: you came back and punched them in the face, and 86 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 3: I just thought there was an equalizer and at that 87 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 3: point we settled into a pretty good game. 88 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, it showed a lot of poise from the young 89 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: quarterback and the confidence to come right back from that 90 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 1: because you just never know. Right primetime matchup, like all 91 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: the stakes that were on the line. Moving the ball 92 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: a little bit, then boom interception, the crowd goes nuts, right, 93 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: You and I where we were sitting into our radio location, 94 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: were right behind like the lower level of the fans, Like, 95 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: and they're going nuts. It's probably going through our headsets 96 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 1: and everything, right. But I mean that's what happens when 97 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: you play on a road, first road start for Michael Pennock. 98 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: So I think it's a great point how he responded 99 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: after the interception. But I think it's also, as you mentioned, 100 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: Arch good to note how the defense they were getting 101 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 1: after Jaden Daniels in the first half as far as 102 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 1: sacks goes, and they were able to hem him up 103 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: in the running game. It was like Washington was trying 104 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: to throw the football I keep him in the pocket early. 105 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: He only ended up breaking one run out. But they 106 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 1: really did a good job at one of the more mobile, athletic, 107 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 1: dynamic young quarterbacks in this league. 108 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 3: Yeah, they really did a good job with the concept 109 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 3: of and I think you're right. Cliff Kingsbury, their offensive coordinator, 110 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 3: he had watched a ton of tape. You could tell 111 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 3: that they came out with that short passing attack. They 112 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 3: were gonna attack and take what Atlanta was giving him. 113 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:05,799 Speaker 3: Atlanta's done a better job over the last several weeks, 114 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 3: even since I guess maybe since the bye week of 115 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 3: taking away those quick short throws. But I thought Ertz 116 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 3: did a really good job. They did a good job 117 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 3: checking down to the backs, and I thought Jayden Daniels 118 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 3: stayed pretty disciplined in how he wanted to attack. They 119 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 3: ran one You talked about the one get. They ran 120 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 3: zone read one time, and we didn't play it properly 121 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 3: and he bounced out and got about twenty five yards. 122 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 3: That was right at the end of the first half. 123 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 3: And you and I both kind of you and your 124 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 3: situation and me and mine. I told Wes, I said, 125 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 3: at halftime, we talked about it as the here comes 126 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 3: quarterback run. They're going to run the football, and I 127 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 3: know you were thinking the exact same thing, and that's 128 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 3: what we got in the second half. 129 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, So so we'll kind of switch gears and talk 130 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 1: about the second half, because as Atlanta kind of had 131 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 1: after the initial interception that gave up seven points, Atlanta 132 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:58,359 Speaker 1: pretty much had the pulse of the first half, and 133 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 1: then the second half came, and there were definitely an 134 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:03,919 Speaker 1: adjustment at halftime for Washington, where I'm sure Cliff Kingsbury, 135 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator probably went up to Jaydon Daniels and said, 136 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: all right, young fella, we're gonna put this on your 137 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: shoulders and we're gonna have to have you do what 138 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:14,359 Speaker 1: you do because he's already showed throughout the course of 139 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: this season that he can run the football. But he 140 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: had been hemmed up in the first half, and that 141 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 1: was a completely different story. You go to the third quarter, 142 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: I believe, if on my numbers are right, arch the 143 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 1: Falcons had the ball for two minutes and seven seconds 144 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: in the third quarter, I believe, so the offense didn't 145 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: even really have a chance. It was three plays for 146 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: minus a yard, and the Commanders had the football for 147 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:37,919 Speaker 1: the entire rest of the third quarter. 148 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. 149 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, And you could even add the back or the 150 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 3: beginning of the fourth quarter. There was a sixteen minute 151 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 3: span there where they had the ball for fourteen of 152 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 3: the sixteen minutes essentially, so Atlanta just didn't have the football. 153 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 3: Now there's no you know, you might want to point 154 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 3: the finger at the defense and sure, you need to 155 00:06:58,240 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 3: get off the field. 156 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 2: You need to find away. 157 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 3: This was a team you had limited them I think 158 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 3: to one for four on third down. I think they 159 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 3: were five for nine on third down in the second half, 160 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 3: so they found a way. And it was a lot 161 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 3: of Jaden Daniels and some of it was design run game, 162 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 3: some of it was him getting out imprompted with some 163 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 3: of it was Cliff Kingsbery moving him out of the 164 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 3: pocket to give him some run pass options. So give 165 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 3: them credit for making making some adjustments to get the 166 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 3: quarterback and arch. 167 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 1: It seemed like to your point, it seemed like there 168 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: were a few passing plays like it was. It was 169 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: a true passing play, but Daniels got the ball, he 170 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: looked one direction and then he was like, I gotta 171 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: see him. I'm taking it right. It was almost like 172 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: predetermined in his head that if he didn't have somebody 173 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: wide open right away that he was like, I'm just 174 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: gonna go ahead and take care. It was very reminiscent 175 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: for me of watching Michael Vick right, because when I 176 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: was playing with him, Michael got to this that those 177 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: times in the game where he knew we needed a 178 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: play and a pass play was called and he'd look 179 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 1: and then he'd find a seem and he was gone right. 180 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: And that's where like I was watching Jaden Daniels, and 181 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: it was very eerie to see Mike Lamar Jackson because 182 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: that's the type of ability that he shows. Not only 183 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: is it the speed, but it's slippery, like he rarely 184 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: gets hit, arts like he finds a way to make 185 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: people miss. 186 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 3: He's he's a dynamic player, and he's one of the 187 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 3: bright stars that we're gonna get a chance to watch 188 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 3: over the next several years. Hopefully, hopefully he can stay 189 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 3: healthy and stay out of injury for Washington's sake, and 190 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 3: we'll be able to watch him as fans of football, 191 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 3: to be able to watch his kid play. 192 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 2: But he certainly understood the moment. 193 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 3: I think that give give Washington credit for teeing him 194 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 3: up and saying, hey, listen, you need to as you said, 195 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 3: go do what you do. I thought Atlanta got caught 196 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 3: in a couple of situations. We like to use a 197 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 3: lot of five man pressures. We'll bring Jaden and Daniels up. 198 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 3: In fact, you know, Jaden makes a play because of 199 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 3: the look. You confuse the young quarterback, and that's what 200 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:53,959 Speaker 3: you're trying to do. You're trying to mix looks up. 201 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:56,439 Speaker 3: And we talked about it last week on the podcast 202 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 3: what do you do with this kid? Well, you got 203 00:08:57,760 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 3: to mix the looks up, and as it turns out, 204 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:04,079 Speaker 3: you had a mush rush. You had a hug situation 205 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 3: with your linebacker in the left B gap. Then he 206 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 3: drops out into. 207 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 2: Coverage and he gets the interception. 208 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 3: So you did some of the things you needed to 209 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 3: do to help confuse him a little bit, but ultimately 210 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 3: it got down to his raw athleticism. 211 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 2: He went and got things done. 212 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 1: So tough to win sometimes in the National Football League 213 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: when you give up two hundred and sixteen yards rushing, 214 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 1: as the Falcons did, and of course jayde and Daniels 215 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: sixteen carries one hundred and twenty seven yards and if 216 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: my math was right, about one hundred and three in 217 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 1: the second half. 218 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was his first hundred yard game. 219 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 3: Is his career rush in the football If you go 220 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:34,679 Speaker 3: back and you look the week before, he did the 221 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 3: same thing to Philly, and then Philly's defense had no 222 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 3: answer for him. Our answer had to be offensively, and 223 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 3: as it turned out, that's what we did. We came 224 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 3: back offensively to answer what Jaden Daniels was doing. 225 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: So just second half time of possession, by the way, 226 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: I went and looked at it, Washington, essentially I rounded 227 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 1: my numbers here twenty one minutes, Atlanta nine minutes in 228 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: the second half. Commanders had seventeen more offensive plays in 229 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: the second half than Atlanta did. But all that being said, Arch, 230 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: let's kind of go back to the final drive where 231 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 1: Atlanta gets the ball and they drive the length of 232 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 1: the field and I'm gonna kind of fast forward all 233 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: the way down and if you need to rewind a 234 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 1: little bit, go ahead. But they get first and goal 235 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: at the five and an errant wildcat snap goes over 236 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 1: the top of Bejon Robinson's head, and I'm sure I 237 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 1: don't know what your reaction was in the booth, but 238 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:23,319 Speaker 1: it was just like, oh my gosh, like you're thinking 239 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: first and goal at the five, Bijon is in the 240 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:28,439 Speaker 1: wildcat like this could be one run play and he's 241 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:31,679 Speaker 1: in the end zone. And then it was disaster or 242 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: shall we say near disaster, because they end up losing. 243 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 1: Was it twenty six yards on the player or it 244 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 1: was on the twenty six yard line? 245 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 2: Think they lost? I think they lost twenty one yard. 246 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, so it ended up being on the twenty six 247 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 1: yard line. And then I want you to kind of 248 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 1: take us through the young quarterback in a pivotal game, his. 249 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 2: First road start. 250 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 1: How he overcomes that to not only get them back 251 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 1: in scoring terry to territory, to actually punch the ball 252 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: into the end zone. 253 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 3: Well, he's got to have a resolve in his mind 254 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 3: where Okay I can I'm probably not going to get 255 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 3: a twenty five. 256 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 2: Yard throw here for a touchdown. 257 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 3: It's still goal to go. Remember, so you're at the 258 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 3: twenty six yard line of wherever it was, and it's 259 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:16,439 Speaker 3: second in goal now. So now my mindset, and I'm 260 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 3: sure Zach's talking to zero, say let's chip away at this. 261 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 3: And I actually said it on the broadcast. Okay, Mike 262 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 3: can't if he sees a shot, take it. But I've 263 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 3: got to think about chipping away. Get myself back to 264 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 3: a reasonable chance to throw the ball in the end 265 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:32,679 Speaker 3: zone on potentially fourth down, which is good what it's 266 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 3: going to be, because you got to go. He finds 267 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 3: London along the sidelines, and I like to rewind back. 268 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:40,319 Speaker 3: You mentioned rewind back. 269 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 2: Go back. 270 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 3: Remember he converted fourth down twice in this game. In 271 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 3: this drive, he hits London on a play on a 272 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:50,079 Speaker 3: bench route on fourth down. I think I want to 273 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 3: say fourth and nine fourth and ten somewhere in the 274 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 3: neighborhood on the left sideline, and if you go back 275 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 3: and look at it, he's got early pressure in his face. 276 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 3: London is running the deep outcut, bench route, comeback, whatever 277 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 3: you want to call it, and Pennix lets the ball 278 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 3: go way before London comes out of the break. 279 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 2: He threw it a little bit early with he put 280 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:13,079 Speaker 2: a little bit of. 281 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 3: Touch and air on it, and when London came out, 282 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 3: the ball hit him right in a face. He stepped 283 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 3: out of bounds for the first down, or actually London 284 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 3: made a guy miss, got back up the field and 285 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 3: got the ball down to somewhere around the fifteen yard line. 286 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 3: Then Rey Ray ran the Jets sweep to get it 287 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 3: inside the five. Now we fast Now we fast forward 288 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 3: back up to where you're talking about, so that just 289 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 3: remember those plays that he made prior to getting in position. 290 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 3: But then he hits London along the sidelines. Now your 291 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 3: third and goal. You miss a shot, and now all 292 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 3: of a sudden, it's fourth down and games on the line. 293 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 3: This is it and you you you dial up. 294 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 2: They play Tampa two and Kyle Pitts Of. 295 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 3: All people, Kyle, we have a lot of got of 296 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 3: fans I know are out there questioning, where's Kyle Pitts. 297 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 3: Why has he not been more involved? Well, Kyle came 298 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 3: up big at one of the biggest moments. You know, 299 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:01,719 Speaker 3: he wins against Tampa two. He's got an underneath the 300 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 3: fender coming from the inside that's going to try to 301 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 3: wall him from getting into the middle of the field. 302 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 3: Got two deep safeties, and so me as a quarterback, 303 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 3: I gotta be pinpoint with the throw. I thought he 304 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 3: did a really good job of trusting the fact that 305 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 3: the defender had his back to him, so he shot 306 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 3: the ball to the inside, pulled him away from the safety, 307 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 3: you know, kind of gambling a little bit that the 308 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 3: defender wouldn't get his head around and put the ball 309 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 3: down around the knee level, and pot, Kyle went and 310 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 3: got it. Now, it's a laser beam throw. It's a 311 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 3: big time throw. You can go back to the greats 312 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 3: of the game, and it's as good as any throw 313 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 3: you're gonna make in his career. 314 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 2: You go back, well, hopefully. 315 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 3: We're going to look at a fifteen year career of 316 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 3: Michael Pennix and this throw right here might be a 317 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 3: defining throw of his career, that's gonna lead us to 318 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 3: some great stuff, but he won't make a better throw 319 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 3: than he made. 320 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 2: In this one arch. 321 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: It's almost it's almost a travesty that they came up 322 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 1: short in this game because you look back at that 323 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 1: throw and number one for him to have the guts 324 00:13:56,960 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: to throw that ball, and number two the location the 325 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 1: zip and like where he put the ball. Like when 326 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: I went when they showed the replay, because you and 327 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 1: I where we are at in that stadium right the 328 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 1: radio booth locations, Washington Art is gonna be a little. 329 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 3: Bit more honest than me. 330 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 1: So that action was all the way on the other 331 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: end of the field of us, so we don't have 332 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: necessarily have the greatest vantage point on it. But when 333 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: they showed the replay and I saw the location at 334 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: that throw, I was like, oh my goodness, that is 335 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: a special throw location in the moment too, like people 336 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: don't understand the moment, like if he gets nervous and 337 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 1: that ball ends up hitting the ground before it even 338 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: gets to Kyle Pitts, you see that he's not ready 339 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 1: for the moment. But it was almost just like Michael 340 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: Pennix was like, dude, this is a CFP National Title Game. 341 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 1: I got this right, and he just throws a laser 342 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: into the hands of Kyle Pitts and they end up 343 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: tying up the game. 344 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 3: And give and give Kyle credit to Kyle had to win. 345 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 3: He's got a defender running from inside out that's trying 346 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 3: to wall him. Tampa too is it is most most 347 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 3: t I think fans know too. Deep coverage is two 348 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 3: safeties playing halves of the field and then you're playing 349 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 3: five hunderd zone or five under man in Tampa two 350 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 3: a lot of times his zone. But you'll man up 351 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 3: the vertical route that's from coming from the slot, and 352 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 3: so he's got a guy trying to wall him from 353 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 3: getting inside. Kyle wins over the top enough to give 354 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 3: Pinnis the angle to throw the ball in there. Pinnis 355 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 3: pulls him away from the safety. Now think about all 356 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 3: the things that are happening here. Then he locates the 357 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 3: football's racks, talking about down and away from the defender 358 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 3: and the defenders on his back. Now Kyle makes the 359 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 3: grab and there's a fender draped all over him. So 360 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 3: as good a throw as it was, and give Pennis 361 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 3: all the tremendous amount of credit you're rightly, so give 362 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:43,239 Speaker 3: Kyle a ton of credit because. 363 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 2: He didn't caught a lot of balls. 364 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 3: He caught three balls prior to I think he had 365 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 3: one that was nullified because of a penalty. But Kyle 366 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 3: makes a huge play in a huge moment, So give 367 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 3: give the big tight end some credit as well. 368 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: You mentioned Tampa two cover two just for our listeners 369 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 1: and our viewers, just so you understand. Like and to 370 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: cover two, you have those two safeties. Generally for an offense, 371 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 1: the biggest opportunity you have is down the middle of 372 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: the field. But the Tampa two adjustment drops a linebacker, 373 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: whether it's an outside or traditionally a middle linebacker, deep 374 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: in the middle of the field. 375 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 2: But he's to take that. 376 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 3: He's gonna run. He's gonna run. They're gonna pick a vertical. 377 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 3: He's gonna run with a vertical. He's not gonna drop 378 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 3: in a zone. He's gonna find the vertical and run 379 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 3: with him to try to wall him from getting in there. 380 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 3: And that all happened, there's no question about it. 381 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: So then we go to the overtime period. Atlanta loses 382 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: the coin toss, so Washington takes the football and much 383 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: like it was in the second half. I mean it 384 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: was just Jad and Daniels kind of taking over in overtime. 385 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: And again you can rewind if you want, all the 386 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: way to the point to where late in that drive, 387 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 1: dan Quin ended up calling a time out, let the 388 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 1: play clock go all the way down, call a time 389 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: out because his quarterback was absolutely exhausted because he had 390 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: run so much on that drive. He was kind of 391 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 1: bent over down on the ground trying to catch his breath. 392 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 1: Thought it was a really smart coaching move, not only 393 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: to call the time out, but let the play clock 394 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: go all the way down, So give him call it 395 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: thirty nine seconds thirty eight seconds plus the time out 396 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:09,439 Speaker 1: to kind of catch his breath. But it was more 397 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: or less Atlanta just didn't have the answer for what 398 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 1: he was able to do. And then he ends up 399 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 1: finding zach Ertz, the trusty veteran tight end for the touchdown. 400 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. I thought they did a good job of not 401 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 3: letting him beat them on the ground. Now he got 402 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 3: him down there, There's no question they ran quarterback. They 403 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 3: ran quarterback sweep, they ran quarterback counter. They have a 404 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:29,159 Speaker 3: zone read in there where you actually snuffed out the 405 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 3: zone read and tackling him for I think a yard 406 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 3: loss or maybe maybe a no gain. You did a 407 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 3: really good job there, and so ultimately you make it. 408 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 3: He scrambles gets to about the three and then Justin 409 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 3: Simmons comes up and drops the hammer on him and 410 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:46,120 Speaker 3: knocks him to the ground. So now on third down 411 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 3: you got a chance to potentially force him to either 412 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 3: make a decision if they're going to kick a field 413 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 3: goal or go for it. And they do a really. 414 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 2: Good job with their look. 415 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 3: They had a stack look to the left side and 416 00:17:57,960 --> 00:17:59,919 Speaker 3: Atlanta's trying to match. 417 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 2: And Ertz releases to the flat offered. 418 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 3: You know, obviously jumps him because you can't give away 419 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 3: that quick flat throw or it's going to be a touchdown, 420 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,199 Speaker 3: and the NRTS bust it back to the inside and 421 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 3: it's just a quick throw to Ertz on that little 422 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:14,160 Speaker 3: angle route. 423 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 2: It was a good design. 424 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:18,159 Speaker 3: It was a really good play in that situation. And 425 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 3: so give them credit. Now if we can, we should 426 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 3: go back probably and revisit right at the end of 427 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 3: the regulation and give the defense a This is a 428 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:31,400 Speaker 3: defense that had been on the field the entire second half. 429 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 3: Rax talk about he documented the time twenty one minutes. 430 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 3: Practically they were on the field for the second half 431 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 3: of thirty minutes. Okay, you come back out after Pennix 432 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 3: just drove your team the link to the field to 433 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 3: tie the game. They've got the ball with it, but 434 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 3: I think it. 435 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 2: Was a minute nineteen left more than enough time. 436 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 3: They've got a big kicker, big legged kicker. And you 437 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 3: go in and you get three and out. You go 438 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 3: in and you put pressure on the quarterback. Now you 439 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 3: had to throw to a Zikias over the middle. I 440 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 3: got Hughes in a pretty good spot, maybe got in 441 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 3: his vision a little bit. Takias doesn't pull in the 442 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 3: catch on third down. But you go three and out. Defensively, 443 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:10,680 Speaker 3: you had just been you know, steamrolled in the second half, 444 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 3: or been on the field the entire time. You come 445 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 3: in and get a three and out. What an outstanding 446 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 3: job by Jimmy Lake's crew to go out there and 447 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:19,680 Speaker 3: get the ball back for their young quarterback. And then obviously, 448 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 3: you know, Pennix makes a great throw to Mooney along 449 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 3: the sideline. Mooney doesn't get out of bounds, and so 450 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 3: then it becomes a lot of what people are talking about. Okay, 451 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 3: you to burn a time out there, there's a lot 452 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 3: of different thought process. Okay, Quinn and Joe Witt are 453 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 3: well known for exotic blitzes and looks. There was an 454 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:40,959 Speaker 3: opportunity to rush the line of scrimmage and go for 455 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 3: it in that situation, not take the time out, and 456 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 3: Michael actually has Mooney open on the sideline and just 457 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 3: missed him. And that happens in games. You know you're 458 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 3: gonna you're gonna miss some shots. So then there comes 459 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 3: the conversation should you have burn a time out and 460 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 3: all that kind of stuff. There's a lot of different 461 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:01,120 Speaker 3: things going on. You got to remember he coached with 462 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 3: Joe Witt and with Dan Quinn. He knows what those 463 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 3: guys are gonna do. In fact, the very next play 464 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 3: or two plays later, they come with a zero blitz 465 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 3: on him. Now you get the penalty that gives you 466 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 3: an opportunity maybe potentially try a long field goal. But 467 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 3: there's a lot going into it. So it's not just 468 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 3: hey take a time out there, that's not there's a 469 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,360 Speaker 3: thought process. What's easier for the young quarterback to see 470 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:25,919 Speaker 3: a conventional four man pass rush in a hurry up 471 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 3: situation or do you call time out and allow them 472 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 3: to maybe put together something exotic that gets you, gets 473 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 3: him a sack, or confuses the young quarterback where he 474 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 3: throws it to the other team. So there's a lot 475 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 3: going on there as far as conversation, and you can 476 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 3: argue both sides, and I'm not trying to defend one 477 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 3: or the other, but there's a lot going on. So 478 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 3: don't think that it's just naturally you call a time 479 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 3: out there, that there's a lot more thought process going. 480 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 1: On to Yeah, I mean that was one of the 481 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: biggest conversations that came out of the game. And I 482 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 1: know you got a chance to talk to coach Morris 483 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: and everything, and was there any other explanation behind what 484 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 1: his process it was there because he was kind of 485 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 1: taking a lot of flak for not only the first 486 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 1: half of the second half not calling to the time out. 487 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I thought the first half played out. You 488 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 3: bled the clock in the first half and it's third down. 489 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 3: Remember we get a ball thrown over the middle, it 490 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 3: almost gets picked off, and then you get to a 491 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 3: third down and he's got it, potentially got a shot 492 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 3: to London in the left corner and just you know, 493 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 3: maybe rushed a little bit, didn't put enough air on it, 494 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 3: whatever missed him, and you kicked the field goal in 495 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 3: the second half. In the situation, he's talking about, Okay, 496 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:31,919 Speaker 3: what would be best? And remember this is happening in 497 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 3: real time. Now, we're not talking about I've got ten 498 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 3: minutes to figure this out. I've got a few seconds 499 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 3: to figure out. Okay, we're gonna go. Should we rush 500 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 3: the line of scrimage? Should we burn a time out? 501 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 3: And so the conversation was. And remember they practiced their 502 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 3: two minute out here. Now was the two minute a 503 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 3: little bit slower than they would have liked? Yes, I 504 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 3: think that their operation to get to the line of scrimmage, 505 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 3: get the play called, and get it out maybe a 506 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 3: little bit slower than they had hoped. 507 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 2: I think that thirty. 508 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 3: One seconds was on the clock when when Mooney caught 509 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 3: the football, they got the ball snapped some more in 510 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:03,640 Speaker 3: that seventeen second range somewhere in that neighborhood. But he's 511 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 3: got the shot, he's got the shot. He's got Mooney 512 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 3: there just maybe rushed a little bit and missed the throw. 513 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 3: But his thought process was, okay, do I give him 514 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 3: a conventional fore man pass rush and them kind of 515 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:19,479 Speaker 3: reeling defensively after we just completed a pass and get 516 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 3: a vanilla look, or do I call time out and 517 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 3: now give Joe Witt and Dan Quinn the opportunity to 518 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 3: come with something that we haven't seen yet, or come 519 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:33,439 Speaker 3: with something that the court young quarterback hasn't seen. And 520 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 3: so he decided to go with a conventional four man 521 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:38,919 Speaker 3: look and give him a chance to make a play. 522 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 3: And in all all actuality to play. 523 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 2: Is there, and it just didn't. It didn't come out. 524 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:48,159 Speaker 3: But remember you got to go back and remember this. 525 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 2: This team has been really good late in the games. 526 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 3: Okay, do you want a game against Philly late in 527 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 3: the game, went the length of the field to win 528 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 3: the game. You went the link the field to beat 529 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,439 Speaker 3: to get young Way coup in position to beat what 530 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:03,399 Speaker 3: New Orleans you had late unbelievable late success against Tampa. 531 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 3: There's been a lot of successes late in football games. 532 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 3: You're gonna fail sometimes late in games, decision making or 533 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 3: where a throw goes, or what happens in a game. 534 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 3: That's gonna happen in games throughout your your year. We've 535 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 3: played an eleven one score games. Okay, so you're gonna 536 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 3: have a lot of these opportunities, and you've been You've 537 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 3: had a lot more successes than you have failures. I 538 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,239 Speaker 3: know this one hurts for the fans because this had 539 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 3: the playoffs on the line, But I hope that gives 540 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 3: a little bit of perspective as to what was going 541 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 3: on there. And the coach is gonna say, hey, it 542 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 3: was on me. You know, I made the decision. I'll 543 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 3: take the blame or whatever, but there was a lot 544 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 3: more thought processing going into it than just taking the 545 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 3: timeout or whatever. 546 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, and Arch, you and I have been in many 547 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 1: of those meetings after the fact where you actually dive 548 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,680 Speaker 1: into what was the play call and what was the situation, 549 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 1: what was the thought process of the coaching staff, And 550 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 1: sometimes for a fan it's easy to just point the 551 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 1: finger and say why didn't that happen, But until you 552 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,119 Speaker 1: actually get inside the nuts and bolts of it, you 553 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 1: don't actually know what the thought process was going on 554 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:05,159 Speaker 1: between the coaching staff, in the headsets and everything. So 555 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 1: unfortunately Atlanta ends up coming up short. You mentioned Michael Pennix. 556 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:12,439 Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of really really good things 557 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 1: from him. He did end up missing in my opinion 558 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,119 Speaker 1: arts probably five to six throws in the game that 559 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 1: I thought could have been really big. And I think 560 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: those are plays that maybe next year, after he gets 561 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,639 Speaker 1: seven twelve fifteen games under his belt, that he feels 562 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 1: a lot more confident and he just hits those right 563 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 1: and stride. But there was a couple of big plays. 564 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: I felt like we're missed, just maybe because he's not 565 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 1: quite up to speed, chemistry, timing and all those things. 566 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, and he might rush the must rushed himself a 567 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 3: little bit, you know, you're settling back into game mode, 568 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 3: those kind of things. But he may hit them next 569 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 3: week against Carolina. 570 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 2: I mean, this guy's a quick study. 571 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 3: I thought he was very calm. I had a chance 572 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 3: to talk to him postgame, very calm and collected. He 573 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,440 Speaker 3: was disappointed, as you can imagine, that he wasn't able 574 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 3: to get the W. But I think that the sky 575 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 3: as a limit. Guys, we've got a young quarterback that 576 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 3: you should be excited about. I think he's got young 577 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 3: talent around him you should be excited about. And we'll 578 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 3: probably see it on display this next week and against Carolina. 579 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 580 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: So, speaking of which, unfortunately, with the loss, Atlanta loses 581 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 1: control of their own destiny to get into the postseason 582 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,959 Speaker 1: with the win of Tampa this past Sunday lopsided win 583 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,719 Speaker 1: over Carolina. Mind you, they ended up beating the forty 584 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:26,159 Speaker 1: eight to fourteen. So now the Atlanta Falcons obviously have 585 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: to win this week, and then they got to hope 586 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:28,479 Speaker 1: that Tampa loses. 587 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,199 Speaker 3: That means pulling for the Saints, which I like. In 588 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:34,880 Speaker 3: pulling the Saints, it would be like, Okay, your mom 589 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 3: comes in and so you say, Mom, what do we have. 590 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 2: For dinner tonight? We're having liver tonight, and then you 591 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,160 Speaker 2: have to look forward to it. Yeah, you going liver. 592 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 2: I don't now. Maybe some of you out there love liver. 593 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 2: I personally did not win. 594 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 3: My my mom would do that once a month for 595 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 3: us and do the liver thing, and I had to 596 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,719 Speaker 3: dowse it and ketchup. I know, maybe we can dowse 597 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 3: the Saints in ketchup and maybe they can get a 598 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:56,919 Speaker 3: win for us. But pulling for the Saints is like 599 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:58,679 Speaker 3: mom serving liver for dinner. 600 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 1: One of the very few times this organization is pulling 601 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 1: for the New Orleans Saints to pull out a big 602 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 1: time win. But you know, sometimes those things happen. I 603 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 1: don't think a lot of people expected Dallas was gonna 604 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 1: beat Tampa a couple of weeks ago, so you just 605 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 1: never know. But arch to your point, they can't really 606 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 1: worry about that. All they got to worry about is 607 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 1: is Carolina. Carolina definitely struggling this year, four and twelve 608 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 1: on the season, one and four in the NFC South. However, 609 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,119 Speaker 1: maybe maybe feeling a little bit more confident. They do 610 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: have Bryce Young back at quarterback. He's been playing better 611 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:34,680 Speaker 1: than he did the first few games of the year, 612 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 1: so let's kind of dive into this matchup. Of course, 613 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 1: Atlanta's already played him one time. What's gonna have to 614 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:43,440 Speaker 1: happen in this game? Kind of flushing last week out, 615 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 1: not thinking about what's gonna happen with Tampa and just 616 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 1: going out as professionals and trying to win the game, 617 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 1: win the task at hand that's in front of you. 618 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a it's a great point rack. And the 619 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 3: probably the biggest, the most difficult thing will be coming 620 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 3: in over the last couple of days, coming in on Wednesday. 621 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 3: Whenever you see this podcast, we're recording on a Tuesday here. 622 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 3: But you you mentioned the keyword professional, and there's a 623 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 3: lot of conversation when when a team los in college, Oh, 624 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 3: can they be up and ready for the next game. Well, 625 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 3: that's part of the process. You're being paid to play, 626 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 3: there's no question about that. But there's a passion that 627 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 3: you're going to play as a pro the next week. 628 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,879 Speaker 3: And and so Atlanta's got a rally a little bit here. 629 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:27,879 Speaker 3: They're gonna have to pick themselves up. There was a 630 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 3: lot of disappointed people coming out of that building uh 631 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 3: on in Washington on Sunday night. 632 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 2: I can tell you that because I got a chance 633 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:35,919 Speaker 2: to talk to a number of them. 634 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 3: Obviously I came back on the plane with them. A 635 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 3: lot of disappointment went, a lot of chatter. Wasn't a 636 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 3: lot they they realized an opportunity loss there. But they're 637 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 3: gonna have to regroup pick themselves up. Raheem and his 638 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,159 Speaker 3: staff are very good about that. But it'll be a 639 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 3: lot on the players, uh to get ready for Carolina, 640 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 3: because Carolina's going to want to come in. You know, 641 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 3: they want their season end right, which you do want 642 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:58,199 Speaker 3: to do if you don't get a. 643 00:27:58,160 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 2: Play in the postseason. 644 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,440 Speaker 3: You and I both were in situations where you want 645 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 3: to go out with a good taste in your mouth. 646 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 3: You want to go win a football game, and that's 647 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 3: what you take into the offseason. So both teams are 648 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,440 Speaker 3: going to want to do that. But if Atlantic plays 649 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,640 Speaker 3: their kind of game, this is a game they should win. 650 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, you made a great point, And it's like a 651 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 1: lot of again fans out there they want to talk about, well, well, 652 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 1: what does X, Y and Z team have to play for? 653 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 1: And I think the argument is still there for Atlanta. 654 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 1: They've got plenty to play for because they don't know 655 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 1: what's going to happen. 656 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 2: In the other game. 657 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,159 Speaker 1: But never in my career arch did I get to, 658 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 1: like the final two games of the season and think like, oh, 659 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: like the off season's coming, Like what's my off season. 660 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 2: Plans look like? 661 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 1: Because every opportunity you get on a Sunday or a 662 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 1: Monday or whatever it ends up being, is an opportunity 663 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 1: where you're on tape and somebody's evaluates you, whether it's 664 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: your team or one of the other thirty one teams 665 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: around the league. And if you want to have a 666 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 1: long standing career in this league, what you got to 667 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 1: remember is, like, you know, I'm a special teams player, 668 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 1: right There is a group of players that are at 669 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 1: the top level that if they have crappy games, they're 670 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 1: going to be fine. Yeah, okay, but there's a lot 671 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 1: of players, not just a little bit like there's a 672 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 1: lot of players that when you get it, when you 673 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 1: play a crappy game and the coaching staff in a 674 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 1: front office puts on that tape and they watch, they 675 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 1: start thinking, can we get somebody else that can do 676 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,479 Speaker 1: that same thing, that can do better than what that 677 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 1: guy does, because that's what their job is every single 678 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 1: offseason to try to find a way to get their 679 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 1: team better. And how does that happen, generally by replacing 680 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 1: somebody that was on the team. So professional, your job 681 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 1: is to go out this weekend for the Atlanta Falcons 682 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 1: and play your face off against Carolina Panthers to come 683 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 1: away with a win, and then you just never know 684 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 1: what's gonna happen. So what do you think coming off 685 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: of the loss, are going to be a couple of 686 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 1: the keys for Atlanta to get that victory? 687 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 3: This just dista reiterate what you're saying. Think about this. 688 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 3: Derek Rackley was one of the better deep snappers in 689 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 3: the game. Okay, rack would go down a lot of times. 690 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 3: You get tackles in games on punt coverage and things. 691 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 3: But to win a game, the operation between snapper, holder 692 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 3: and kicker or paramount, those things happen one point three 693 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 3: to one point four seconds is what happens there that 694 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 3: operation to make that happen. Okay, So there's there's thirty 695 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:24,479 Speaker 3: two jobs this guy. Think about how specialized that is 696 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 3: when you think around the National Football League. They're thirty 697 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 3: two jobs that rackad thirty two. What other profession out 698 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 3: there has just thirty two spots? And so if he 699 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 3: snaps one over the punter's head or snaps one in 700 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 3: the ground with the holder, can't get it done and 701 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 3: we lose it, Yeah, they're gonna go try to find 702 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 3: somebody else again. I mean, think about how fine a 703 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 3: line that is. So the pride factor of showing up 704 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 3: and being a professional, but also survival. You want to 705 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 3: be in the league, You're gonna do your job at 706 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 3: the highest level. Forget about it being the last game 707 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 3: of the year. Now getting to Carolina real quickly, Carolina 708 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 3: lost Chewba Hubbard. Chewba Hubbard's really had a great year 709 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 3: for him. He's over a thousand yards rushing. In fact, 710 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 3: in their game two weeks ago, they're being win over. 711 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 3: Arizona rushed for one hundred and fifty yards in the game, 712 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 3: got banged up and is out. So that's a big 713 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 3: hole for them to try to fill. Now they're going 714 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 3: to try to do it by a running back guy 715 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 3: Committee black Sheers, a guy who's been carrying the football 716 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 3: for him some. They've leaned a little bit more on 717 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 3: their young quarterback in Bryce Young and Bryce played better 718 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 3: this year since he's come back after Andy Dalton kind 719 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 3: of took over for him after the first game of 720 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 3: the year. Bryce has gotten back on the field. He's 721 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 3: played better in games. In fact, like I said, two 722 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 3: weeks ago, Arizona was in the hunt to be in 723 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 3: the playoffs and they knocked him out. He did a 724 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 3: really good job playing that game. Now they got thumped 725 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 3: last weekend by Tampa, and I don't know if there's 726 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 3: a hotter team in the league than the Tampa Bay Bucks. 727 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 3: In fact, get ready, Tampa may make a run. You know, 728 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 3: if they win this game against the Saints, they may 729 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 3: make a run in the playoffs and you may see 730 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 3: them dancing on Super Bowl Sunday the way they're playing. 731 00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 3: But for carolineup This is a team that is gonna remember, 732 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 3: they're gonna be able to roll the dice. They can 733 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 3: do kind of anything. This is where you get that 734 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 3: wounded animal scenario where you don't know what you're gonna get. 735 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 2: Out of them. 736 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 3: There will be gadget plays, there'll be blitzers you haven't 737 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 3: seen on tape. They're gonna do anything they can to 738 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 3: get after the young quarterback. But I think if Atlanta 739 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 3: just goes, the key is go do what you do. 740 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 3: Come off the ball, run it, mash them in the 741 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 3: run game, make them play physical upfront, and then Pinnix 742 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 3: is gonna be able touch them down the field. 743 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 2: That makes them plays. 744 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 3: Defensively, you're not gonna have to worry about so much 745 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 3: about the quarterback running around. You're gonna be able to 746 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 3: get This is a defense that has three plus sacks 747 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 3: in five consecutive games. No one else in the National 748 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 3: Football League has done that. You went from having nine, 749 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 3: you went from having nine sacks in what week ten 750 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 3: rack you got thirty one sacks down. That's still near 751 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 3: the bottom of the league because you got off to 752 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 3: such a slow start, but you're at the top of 753 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 3: the league in the last five games. You had five 754 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 3: sacks this weekend against a really good quarterback in Jaden Daniels. 755 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 3: Come come get yours, go eat if you will on 756 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 3: off on defense? 757 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 2: Shock? What do you what do you think? 758 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 1: By the way, dogs had to give him a little 759 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 1: bit of love. 760 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 2: Of course d is not here. 761 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 1: He is with the Georgia Bulldogs as they get ready 762 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 1: for their college with. 763 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 3: You, what do you have to say about the Carolina game. 764 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, my thing is just going to be get off 765 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 1: the field on third down, and again it's it's it's 766 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 1: sometimes it's a continuation of the week before. But you're right, 767 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 1: we're not going to face nowhere near the animal running 768 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 1: the football at the quarterback position in Bryce Young as 769 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 1: they did last week in Jaden Daniels. But to me, 770 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 1: it's just the idea of the defense getting off the 771 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 1: field because I felt like that second half they were winded, 772 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,479 Speaker 1: like they were on the field a long time and 773 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 1: they had to have been exhausted. There was a couple 774 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 1: of plays arch where you saw Atlanta like trying to 775 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 1: substitute an entire defensive line right and they had to 776 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 1: because the guys were on the field for so long. 777 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 3: Tell me your thoughts on we didn't tackle well in 778 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 3: the game. Yeah, okay, and you would you contribute that's 779 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 3: something you had to do on special teams to run 780 00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 3: down tackle guys in space and stuff. We contribute that 781 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 3: to potentially the fatigue you're talking about. 782 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:08,799 Speaker 1: I think that's one thing definitely, you know, again not 783 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 1: to necessarily single out. There was a couple of mistackles 784 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 1: by AJ Terrell where he just kind of threw his 785 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 1: shoulder and didn't wrap up. Like it just goes back 786 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,239 Speaker 1: to fundamentals and basics, right like with with with ball 787 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 1: carriers in the National Football League, rarely like sometimes a 788 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,440 Speaker 1: defensive back or a safety can go down with his 789 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 1: shoulder on a tight end and get him at the 790 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 1: thigh and you're gonna knock him down. Sometimes sometimes they're 791 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,239 Speaker 1: gonna run through that. But if it's a running back 792 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 1: or really slippy or slippery quarterback that if you don't 793 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 1: wrap up, you don't bring your arms like, they're gonna 794 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 1: find a way to run through that. I mean, you 795 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 1: could ask the guy from Washington when he ran into 796 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 1: Jon Robinson's thigh in that game in the first half, right, like, 797 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 1: it doesn't feel too good, right, So form mechanics, fundamentals, 798 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 1: like it's all. 799 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:51,839 Speaker 2: The simple stuff. It goes. 800 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 1: It goes away when you get face, when you get tired, 801 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,719 Speaker 1: right Like when you get tired, you're just thinking, oh 802 00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,919 Speaker 1: my gosh, how do I survive On this play? 803 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,280 Speaker 2: I got to get him down on the ground. 804 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 1: And you don't end up driving your legs, you don't 805 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 1: end up wrapping up with your arms, your hat placement 806 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 1: is not at the right place of the ball carrier, 807 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 1: you don't bring your shoulder like all those little things 808 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,239 Speaker 1: that you talk about in OTAs, in mini camps, in 809 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 1: training camp. But when you get into week seventeen of 810 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,920 Speaker 1: the season, you've been on the field for thirteen plays, 811 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,720 Speaker 1: sometimes it's hard to go back to all those basics 812 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 1: and fundamentals such it has to be there. 813 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:24,880 Speaker 2: By the way, real quickly. 814 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:26,759 Speaker 3: You mentioned AJ Terrell, and there were there were a 815 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:28,799 Speaker 3: number of mistackles I thought in the game, and some 816 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:30,759 Speaker 3: of it had to do certainly with fatigue. Some of 817 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 3: it had to do with what Rack's talking about in 818 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,279 Speaker 3: your fundamentals, And hopefully they'll get back to that. AJ 819 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:39,320 Speaker 3: Terrell was on Terry McLaurin, I think thirty two snaps 820 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,279 Speaker 3: in this game. Terry McLaurin, if you go back, you 821 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 3: look at the numbers, you don't know who he is. 822 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 3: He's won the elite receivers in the league. He's over 823 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 3: a thousand yards, has been for the last several seasons. 824 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,879 Speaker 3: He has had a monster year with Jayden Daniels. This year, 825 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:52,799 Speaker 3: in fact, gotten back to being the guy who he is. 826 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 3: He was on him for thirty two snaps. Terry McLaurin 827 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 3: had one reception for seven yards in the game. 828 00:35:59,080 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 2: Shut him down. 829 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 3: So if you want to talk about what is AJ 830 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 3: Terrell and is he a shutdown corner, go look at 831 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 3: that tape, because AJ Terrell completely locked down one of 832 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 3: the best receivers in the league. 833 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 2: Good job, Aj. 834 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:12,359 Speaker 1: There was a couple of times when my play by 835 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 1: play guy Tom McCarthy was saying, what is Washington need 836 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 1: to do? And I said, they got to find a 837 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,360 Speaker 1: way to get the ball in the hands with Terry before. 838 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 2: The crowd was chanting Terry, Terry. 839 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:23,719 Speaker 1: They couldn't get in HEJ said no, no, no, no, 840 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,040 Speaker 1: it's not happening. So credit to him. He has been 841 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,239 Speaker 1: one of the better lockdown corners in the league. And 842 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,239 Speaker 1: I'm happy for him. You know, listen, I owned up 843 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 1: kind of picked on him a little bit when it 844 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,880 Speaker 1: comes to the tackling. I'm sure Aj will look at 845 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:36,920 Speaker 1: the same plays on tape and he'll be as critical 846 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 1: as himself because that's what pros do. But he did 847 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 1: an outstanding job slowing down McLaurin, who was off to 848 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 1: a great start in his career, as you mentioned, another 849 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 1: thousand yard season, but not in that game against the Falcons. 850 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 1: So Atlanta's going to be back at home this weekend 851 00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,959 Speaker 1: in Week eighteen, seventeenth game of the season, to face 852 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers with the hope of getting into the postseason, 853 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,440 Speaker 1: but it's not all in their hands. Fall short to 854 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,880 Speaker 1: the Commanders thirty to twenty four on Sunday Night Football 855 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:07,520 Speaker 1: and overtime on behalf of Dave Archer and kind of 856 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 1: DJ Shockley. 857 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,360 Speaker 2: We're here, You're with us in spirit. 858 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 1: Shock We hope the Bulldogs do great in their playoff 859 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,359 Speaker 1: matchup and we will see you back here next week. 860 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,360 Speaker 1: This has been the Falcon's Audible, presented by AT and T. 861 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for joining us, everybody. We'll be back 862 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 1: to wrap up Week eighteen in the NFL next week. 863 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:23,480 Speaker 2: Ghost Saints. 864 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,319 Speaker 3: Oh man, I just kind of threw up in my mouth, 865 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,200 Speaker 3: a little bit liver, liver,