1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:09,879 Speaker 1: This is straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. 2 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 2: What is up Fire? 3 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 3: It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight Lawyer for Tuesday, February that tenth. 4 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 3: We are joined by the immortal Rob G in the 5 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 3: Place to be. 6 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 2: Han't talked to him in forever. He was big timing 7 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 2: everybody at the Super Bowl, going all the parties with 8 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 2: the beautiful people. 9 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:36,520 Speaker 3: Hanging out with the hot, hot women in sports media. 10 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 3: I mean, Rob G is just all over the place, 11 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 3: and obviously it's good to have him back. As we 12 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 3: record this, the Lakers are in a struggle with the 13 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 3: OKAC Thunder right now. The SGA list OKAC Thunder. Meanwhile, 14 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 3: no Luka Dancic. I will just say rob before we 15 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 3: get to actual things that matter. I hadn't seen one 16 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 3: of these Peacock broadcasts, and I don't know if this 17 00:00:56,600 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 3: is just for Lakers Thunder, but I am totally shook 18 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 3: by what's on the screen. They essentially tried to make 19 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 3: this look like Fortnite. Every player running around and their 20 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 3: name follows them around the screen, and there's all these 21 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 3: bells and whistles. For me, it's a little too much. 22 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 2: I don't know. 23 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 3: You're a young guy. You probably can handle this. But 24 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 3: I'm just like, what is that. 25 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 2: I don't need. 26 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 3: I don't need Hartenstein's name over him. He's a big 27 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 3: white guy, number fifty five. 28 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:23,119 Speaker 2: What are we doing here? 29 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 4: Well, I think you might have a feature turned on 30 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 4: on the app that you're watching, because I'm the one 31 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 4: that I'm watching. I don't see the names floated on. 32 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 4: So you might have the activated feature that the kids 33 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 4: like when you get all the information you know, which 34 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 4: is pretty nice. 35 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 2: No, I got sub titles off. I don't know what's 36 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 2: going on. 37 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 4: I mean, I don't have it. 38 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 2: So but you so you didn't see names on top 39 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 2: of the players and stuff. 40 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 4: No, I did not, But I have seen that like 41 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 4: Prime Video will do that where it's like X ray 42 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 4: version of whatever it is you're watching, where they'll tell 43 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 4: you what the actors are and what's going on in 44 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 4: the scene. So maybe you got the x ray version 45 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 4: of the Lakers Thunder Game. 46 00:01:58,000 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't need that. Speaking of x ray, I 47 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 2: just watched the movie. 48 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 3: My brother is like mister movies, and he told me 49 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 3: to watch the rip Ben Affleck and Matt Damon. 50 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 2: Have you seen it? Mm hmm, it's on Netflix. 51 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 4: What did you have watched it. I enjoyed it. 52 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, it that was good. 53 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 4: Yeah. Like nowadays, like I don't know if it's because 54 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 4: of the age of social media and everybody's got a podcast, 55 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 4: so talking on a podcast. Why everyone has a podcast? 56 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 4: But it's like there's too many roro tours out there 57 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 4: nowadays where it's like, oh, well, you know what was 58 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 4: this film trying to say, and like the state of 59 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 4: filmmaking these days, and that you know, Athleck and Damon 60 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 4: are too good for a Netflix franchise, And it's like, 61 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 4: can I just turn my mind off and be entertained 62 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 4: for an hour forty five? Like I don't mean everything 63 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 4: to be a work of art. Can I have fun 64 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 4: for ninety minutes? Enjoy myself? Keep it moving? 65 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 2: So this is yeah, I totally agree with you. 66 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 3: My I guess my thing is when I'm watching movies 67 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 3: and it gets a little too tense and I get 68 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,839 Speaker 3: nervous for whatever reason. If I'm watching solo, I will 69 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 3: go to Wikipedia and just quickly read about what's going 70 00:02:58,960 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 3: to happen next. 71 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 2: Don't know why, but I did that midway through. 72 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 3: The movie and my reaction was still pretty impressive, And 73 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 3: my daughter goes, did you just read about what's going 74 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 3: to happen. 75 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 2: I go, yeah, I did, because they know I do this. 76 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 2: I don't know why I do it. 77 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 3: I guess because I just want to know, you know, 78 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,079 Speaker 3: I just I want to wait, Like because they strung 79 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 3: out the first like thirty forty minutes of that movie. 80 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 2: It was about as boring as the first three quarters 81 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 2: of the Super Bowl? Would you say? I mean, literally 82 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 2: nothing happened. It was all chatter. And I mean, let's 83 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 2: be real, the super Bowl was and I. 84 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 3: Know we're two days later and I should talk about 85 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 3: how Arizona blew a lead in the second half at 86 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 3: Arizona and loss for the first time. 87 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 2: I just I can't get over the Super Bowl because. 88 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 3: A I was so right about almost everything in the game. 89 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 3: But one of my big takeaways now that I look 90 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 3: back on it is I don't even know if the 91 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 3: Patriots are positioned to, you know, be like a top 92 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 3: three or four team in the AFC next year. Rob 93 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 3: I'm not selling everything on them, because obviously they can 94 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 3: make some moves. 95 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 2: But the more I look into, their playoff run very fortuitous. 96 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 3: If they don't, if they have to face bo Nicks 97 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 3: in Denver, they probably lose that game the way Drake 98 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 3: May played, and I would just I would caution that 99 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 3: they're like some kind of juggernaut or building something great. 100 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna liken it to Dan Marino going to 101 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 3: the super Bowl with the Dolphins in year two and 102 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 3: then never getting back because I like Drake May, but 103 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 3: I just can't get over how bad he was for 104 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 3: four straight games. I mean, rob fifty eight percent completions 105 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 3: in a four game playoff sample size. 106 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 2: That is significant. And I know you could say, hey, 107 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 2: well wait a minute, Justin Herbert has played a bunch 108 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 2: of games in the first round and lost. 109 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, but Drake May led the league in completions against 110 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 3: a terrible, terrible schedule that was kind of glossed over. 111 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 3: And when you get fat and happy stats number one 112 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 3: in EPA, MVP runner up against bad teams and then 113 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 3: face real teams and look awful, it's like, oh, well, 114 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 3: will the Drake, the real Drake May, please stand up. 115 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 3: So I'm a little lower on the Patriots, And that's 116 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 3: why I'm not jassing up the these Seahawks like you're 117 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 3: about to do. 118 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 4: We'll get to that in a second. Now. I think 119 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 4: you're being kind to Drake May. And you know, I 120 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 4: was listening to yesterday's spot of course as I'm editing 121 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 4: in and getting it ready to go up on the 122 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 4: feed there, and you're like, yeah, you know, if you 123 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 4: look at his total numbers, he didn't play well. And 124 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 4: I'm not saying that it's a referendum on him, but 125 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,479 Speaker 4: you know, it's just reality is he was bad. No, 126 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 4: he wasn't just bad, he was historically bad, you know. 127 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:27,039 Speaker 4: According to True Media, Drake May had the sixth worst 128 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 4: EPA per drop back in a Super Bowl since two thousand, 129 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 4: behind only Carrie e f and Collins Paynon Manning in 130 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 4: twenty fifteen where he couldn't move his neck to the left, 131 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 4: and rich Gannon where the Tampa Bay Buccaneers knew all 132 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 4: of his plays. 133 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 2: Wait, wait, hold on, So he was worse than Trent Tilford. 134 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 4: Yes, he was the five ahead of him carry Collins Payton, Manning, 135 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 4: rich Gannon, Rex Grossman in a monsoon and Ben Roethlisberger, 136 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 4: who I think was like two years into the league 137 00:05:56,880 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 4: at that point. So Drake May was horrible in the 138 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 4: Super Bowl, all right. Pressured nineteen times, third most of 139 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 4: his career ten off target passes, career high sacks six times, 140 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 4: career high, three turnovers career high. Like everything that could 141 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 4: go wrong did go wrong for Drake May. And the 142 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:21,679 Speaker 4: big reason for that is because he ran into arguably 143 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 4: the greatest team in NFL history. 144 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 2: All Right, let let let's settle down. 145 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 4: As the kids say, they are in the conversation, and 146 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 4: this is not me talking. This is friend of the 147 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 4: show and arguably the smartest man to ever be on 148 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 4: this podcast, Aaron Schatz, the godfather of the DVOA. Right 149 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 4: coming into the Super Bowl, he had them rated as 150 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:51,039 Speaker 4: the sixth best team in DVOA history. After the Super Bowl, 151 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 4: in a game where they basically stopped playing in the 152 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 4: fourth quarter, they still finished as the fourth best team 153 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 4: in DVOA. Hisaree every single metric that anybody would use 154 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 4: to talk about how good a football team is. The 155 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 4: Seattle Seahawks are either at the top or in the conversation. 156 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 4: All right. This season they end on a ten game 157 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 4: winning streak. Seven of those wins are by double digits. Okay, 158 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 4: they win their three playoff games by an average margin 159 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:27,119 Speaker 4: of eighteen points per game, the highest by any single 160 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 4: playoff run since the Buccaneers in two thousand and two. Okay, 161 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 4: let's not forget. If you're a betting man, which I 162 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 4: know you are, and a lot of our listeners are. 163 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 4: They covered the spread at a seventy five percent clip 164 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 4: this season. So it's not just that they're winning. It's 165 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 4: not just that they are dominating. It's that they are 166 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 4: dominating in every single facet of the game. You want 167 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 4: to win. On the field, they're doing that. You want 168 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 4: them to win. On the scoreboard, they're doing that you 169 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 4: want to win. In the sportsbook, they're doing that. They 170 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 4: went twelve to zero this season when they scored first. 171 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 4: They've gone twenty nine straight games not allowing one hundred 172 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 4: yard rusher. All right, Like, yes, they became just the 173 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 4: first team in almost twenty five years to score more 174 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 4: than one hundred points and allow fewer than fifty in 175 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 4: any NFL postseason. Like except when they played MVP Matthew Stafford, 176 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 4: Sean McVay and the guys in Los Angeles with the Rams. 177 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 4: Every single team they played, they beat the doors off them. 178 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 4: You know, they only trailed for a grand total. Let 179 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 4: me get this straight here, a minute thirty five in 180 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 4: these playoffs. That is belt to ask with thirty seconds 181 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 4: total in the playoffs, they trailed for a minute and 182 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 4: a half. 183 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 3: Well wait a minute, okay, hold on, let's just drill 184 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 3: down on that. So they only played three games because 185 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 3: they got to buy. One was against the zombie forty 186 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 3: nine Ers, who were without I don't think they had kittle. 187 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:59,079 Speaker 4: Did they no no Kiddle? 188 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:00,959 Speaker 3: Right, So they basically we had no offensive guys and 189 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 3: the defense was the shell of itself. 190 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 2: We knew they were gonna get smoked. 191 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 3: The spread was big, and then they faced a I 192 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 3: think a pretty fraudulent Patriots team, so essentially against the Rams, 193 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 3: they were they were very good and only briefly trailed, 194 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 3: largely thanks to the special team's gaff by the putt returner, 195 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 3: So some context was needed. But like I mean, that 196 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 3: forty nine Ers team was not great, and we know 197 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 3: that Patriots team was not great. 198 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:27,679 Speaker 2: So so okay, that is pretty impressive. 199 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 4: James plus two forty six including the playoffs, the best 200 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:35,959 Speaker 4: point differential for a Super Bowl champion since conference realignment 201 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 4: occurred in two thousand and two. Again, because they do 202 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 4: not have the great quarterback, right, Sam Darnold is not 203 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 4: Patrick Mahomes, He's not even Troy aik Man. He's not 204 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 4: Joe Montana. He's not Steve Young whatever. I get that 205 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 4: because their defense doesn't have us a catchy nickname, right, 206 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 4: And don't see the Dark Side because nobody before Sunday 207 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 4: knew they would call the Dark Side. 208 00:09:58,640 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 2: They put that on a cover of SI. 209 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:00,679 Speaker 1: Did you see him? 210 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, nobody knew that outside of Seattle. Because they're not 211 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 4: the legion of Boom, because they're not the eighty five Bears, 212 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:10,319 Speaker 4: because they don't have Ray Lewis and Ed Reid back 213 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 4: there on defense. Nobody views them in the same prism 214 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:19,319 Speaker 4: that they should be because by any metric that you 215 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 4: look at when you combine offense, defense, special teams, there 216 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:27,319 Speaker 4: are very few teams in modern NFL history that can 217 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 4: compete with these guys in all three phases point plan period. 218 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 4: And it's an uncomfortable conversation to have because you don't 219 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 4: know many of their defenders outside of maybe Devin Witherspoon, right, 220 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:40,439 Speaker 4: Like just on a national level, maybe you know a 221 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 4: little bit of Leonard Williams, or you know DeMarcus Lawrence 222 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 4: because he played for the Cowboys, you don't know him 223 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:48,479 Speaker 4: for what he did in Seattle. And offensively, their quarterback 224 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:51,439 Speaker 4: is a guy who was a journeyman, also ran punchline 225 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 4: for the first seven years of his NFL career, whatever 226 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 4: it was. So it's unfortunate that they don't have the 227 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 4: same nang recognition that some of these other teams have, 228 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:04,199 Speaker 4: because when it just comes to being on the field 229 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 4: and actually playing between the white lines, these Seahawks man 230 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 4: are one of the best to ever do it. 231 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,319 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 232 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 233 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to 234 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: listen live. 235 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 2: I hear you making this strong case. 236 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:26,839 Speaker 3: I heard Daniel Jeremiah come out and say, you know 237 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 3: what's so special about this defense is. 238 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 2: They only have zero. That's it. 239 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 3: Nobody had double digits. As there's not like a star. 240 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 3: You don't have to game plan for Michael Parsons or 241 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 3: Miles Garrett. 242 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 2: On this defense, you kind of got a game plan 243 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:42,439 Speaker 2: for everybody and the blitzes and I saw the only 244 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 2: blitz I don't know, the Zacher. It's seven times in 245 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. It sure felt like more than that 246 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 2: because they got six acts and they weren't all in 247 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 2: the blitzes, you know, So it's McDonald's got a great scheme. 248 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:53,439 Speaker 2: You saw it in Baltimore. 249 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 3: He goes to Seattle and he basically owns young quarterbacks. 250 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 3: File this away for next September when they face quarterbacks 251 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 3: under the age of twenty five. 252 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 2: These guys just aren't ready for it. 253 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 3: They haven't seen enough football to be ready to handle 254 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:10,679 Speaker 3: where everything's coming from, and the stunts and the blitzes 255 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:13,959 Speaker 3: and the fake blitzes, and the defensive tackles who never 256 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 3: played suddenly in the game getting sat like he's got 257 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:19,199 Speaker 3: like chaos on that defense. Now they do have a 258 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 3: bunch of guys are free agents, Kenneth Walker, superl MVP, 259 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 3: Rashie Chiheit. 260 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 2: Interesting take from somebody. 261 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 3: I forget who said that, but it was like, listen, 262 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 3: Kubiak came from the Saints where he had Rashi Chihi, 263 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 3: So at the deadline, who does he go and get 264 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 3: his former wide receiver Rashid Chihead, who was an impact 265 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 3: player largely on special teams. But yeah, yeah, also had 266 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 3: a solid job catching to the football. I don't think 267 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 3: I had any touchdowns, but he was good. Now what's 268 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 3: gonna happen is he got the next go to the 269 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 3: Raiders because that'she Kubiak's going. That could be a potential 270 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 3: loss for you guys in Seattle, in which Rob g 271 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 3: would be very excited. But also I saw Josh. 272 00:12:58,679 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 2: Job Tariku Wohlan. 273 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 3: I'm not sure if it's Julian love with someone else. 274 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 3: In the secondary, They've got a bunch of guys who 275 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 3: are free agent. It's not a million, but enough significant 276 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 3: ones that it's gonna be like, hmmm, are they gonna 277 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 3: take a step back? Plus they lose Kubiak, And I 278 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 3: do wonder if Sam Donald goes to the negotiating table, 279 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 3: it's like, hey, guys, I know him on a great deal. 280 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 2: Can we tear that up and give me a new one? 281 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 2: Because I was you know, or Coward. 282 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 3: Likes to say he's twenty five and five in his 283 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 3: last thirty games in the league two years sample size. 284 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 3: Any other quarterback goes twenty five and five and we're like, 285 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 3: holy hell, he's dominant. You know, Sam Donald not bad? 286 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 3: So I don't I mean, so, do you believe this 287 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 3: is a one and done thing for Seahawks or is 288 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 3: just like some kind of budding dynasty. 289 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 4: Well, they're definitely set up if they wanted to make 290 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 4: a run that's like two or three years, but we're 291 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 4: really going forward. They could because even with the free 292 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 4: agents they have, I believe they have forty million dollars 293 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 4: in cap space and so, you know what, the NFL, 294 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 4: you can always kick the gun down the road, research 295 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 4: there a couple of guys and make it work if 296 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 4: you really wanted to. As far as Sam Donald, let 297 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 4: me just say, Sam Donald is like Colin's Austin Reeves 298 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:10,319 Speaker 4: for you, where there are few people in the national 299 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:12,439 Speaker 4: media that will ride harder for a guy like than 300 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 4: you do for Austin Reeves the way he'd rise for 301 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 4: Sam Donald. So I was really happy for him, not 302 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 4: just for Sam, but for Colin because Colin's been on 303 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 4: that train for a year before it became fashionable, and 304 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 4: so it was just nice to see that Colin, you know, 305 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 4: you know, just just super early, just amazingly early. Yea, 306 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 4: you know, so it was great. I'm so happy for him. 307 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 4: But yeah, they're definitely set up where they could make 308 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 4: some noise. The Kubiak loss is going to be huge 309 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 4: for them for obvious reason. Anytime you lose your play 310 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 4: caller offensively, where even if Sam Donald led the NFL 311 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 4: in turnovers, the fact that you were still able to 312 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 4: win what was it, fourteen games? Factoring that in, and 313 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 4: he's still in terms of like EPA and all these 314 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 4: different numbers, was still in the upper half of the 315 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 4: NFL despite the turnovers. Tells me that their offense was 316 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 4: schemed up in such a way where they can make 317 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 4: a lot of noise regardless of that. So whoever they 318 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 4: get to run the plays is going to be big. 319 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 2: From a producer at the herd. So did you see 320 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 2: the Rams hired Cliff Kingsbury. 321 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 3: They didn't announce what his position is going to be, 322 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 3: They just said they've hired him. So the Seahawks don't 323 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 3: have an offensive coordinator. Did the Rams block Seattle from 324 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 3: getting Cliff Kingsbury by scooping him up? Because he went 325 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 3: from calling plays in Washington with Jayden Daniels to out 326 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 3: on a breadline, maybe. 327 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 2: By his choice. 328 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 3: And you know who calls plays with the Rams, that's McVeigh. 329 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 2: So I don't know why why Cliff Kingsbury went to 330 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 2: the Rams. He ain't gonna call plays? What's he doing? 331 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 3: Just want to live in la because if he went 332 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 3: to Seattle, he'd be calling plays. McDaniel is a defensive guy. 333 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 3: So that's a bit of a conspiracy theory. I don't 334 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 3: do they hire from within? Very strange does Kingsbury thing 335 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 3: to not give him a title and for Seattle to 336 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 3: now be without an offensive coordinator? 337 00:15:57,600 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 2: I think that's significant. 338 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 4: Rob Yeah, especially this late in the game, Like that's 339 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 4: one of the you know, you need to say a 340 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 4: drawback to winning the Super Bowl, But that's one of 341 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 4: the drawbacks to winning the Super Bowl? 342 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 2: Is it? 343 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 4: Because you knew what two and three weeks, like a 344 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 4: month ago, you knew Clint Kubak was gonna get a 345 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 4: job somewhere. You knew that he was going to be 346 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 4: hired somewhere, So you have to have that on the 347 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 4: back of your mind, Like, hey, the deeper we go, 348 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 4: the smaller this candidate pool gets, because we can't interview 349 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 4: guys for a job when we're still playing, Like especially 350 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 4: because Kubiak couldn't even accept the Raiders' job or the 351 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 4: Cardinal's job or whatever until their season was over. So 352 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 4: it's like you're gonna have these backdoor dealings and you know, 353 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 4: in a outback steakhouse with the Cliff Kingburry and his agent, Like, no, 354 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 4: you can't do that. You gotta you gotta let the 355 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 4: process pay out. And I will say, you know, I 356 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 4: think you and I are probably higher on Cliff Kingsbury 357 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 4: than a lot of people might be at this point. 358 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 4: The hate is bizarre, yes, but I don't think he 359 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 4: would have been a good fit for this particular Seahawks 360 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 4: team with a kind of because you know, he likes 361 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 4: his mobile quarterbacks. Sam Darnold can move a little bit. 362 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 4: I want to come ambile quarterback, and he has this weird, 363 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 4: you know, allergy to running the football at times. Oh 364 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 4: atle is at their best running the ball, play action, 365 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 4: that kind of stuff. 366 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 2: That's not a bad take. I just I can't get 367 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,160 Speaker 2: with you. And shats on this all time great team. 368 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,199 Speaker 3: Why not shots is so smart, very good. It just 369 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:24,679 Speaker 3: felt like a wacky year. Like again, these are the 370 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 3: quarterbacks that they beat. My guy brock Perty, who you 371 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 3: know I love, I have a man crushed on rock Party, 372 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 3: and then Matt Stafford and then Drake May. Usually the 373 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 3: historic teams take down like an amazing quarterback, Patrick Mahomes 374 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 3: an all time great, and Aaron Rodgers a Tom Brady 375 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 3: And maybe it's just tough to do right now because 376 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 3: there are many amazing quarterbacks in the playoffs this year. 377 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 2: I mean, no Lamar Jackson. Look at the Drake Maypath. 378 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:55,479 Speaker 2: I mean they beat Justin Herbert, who I like, you 379 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:56,360 Speaker 2: don't seem to love. 380 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 4: See no defensive line either, He's true. 381 00:17:59,040 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 2: CJ. 382 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 3: Stroud, who had I think seventeen turnovers in the game. 383 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:05,199 Speaker 3: I might have lost track, and then Jared Stidham. So 384 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:08,199 Speaker 3: it's just maybe this is an outlier. I don't I 385 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 3: don't know, Rob. I just I can't totally get one 386 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 3: hundred percent with you on on Seattle being great. But 387 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 3: obviously you know we got free agency, the draft, We'll 388 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 3: get plenty of NFL I want to quickly go to 389 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 3: the NBA. We haven't even talked about the James. 390 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 2: Harden move, have we. 391 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 4: No, we haven't. 392 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, again, you're gallivanting around the country as a famous producer. 393 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:31,919 Speaker 4: Can I say this. I was at a couple of 394 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 4: social events and a handful of people, Hey, when's Jamak 395 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:38,399 Speaker 4: coming to town? When Jamak coming into town? And I 396 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:39,679 Speaker 4: was like, I don't. 397 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:42,439 Speaker 2: Know, maybe a waiter was asking, yeah, come on. 398 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 4: And then and then I was at this party, which 399 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 4: I described as a the worst nightclub you've ever been to. Yeah, 400 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 4: just just to be in terms of the congestion of 401 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:55,159 Speaker 4: people and the ratio of men to women being like 402 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 4: ninety nine to one. Just a lot of dudes, a 403 00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 4: lot of dudes all pressed up next to each other 404 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 4: listening to how Is music. Was not my scene, but 405 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 4: there were people there, like, hey, man, is j Mack 406 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 4: coming in? If he was that, I don't know if 407 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 4: this is the party he'd be at. I think he'd 408 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 4: be get somewhere bigger. 409 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 2: He's got jokes, this guy. I'm laughing because I'm watching 410 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 2: the Lakers toring. 411 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 3: Comeback against OKC, taking the lead with a massive third quarter. 412 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:21,400 Speaker 3: But I need to ask about the James Harden deal, 413 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 3: mostly because I just watched the end of this Calves 414 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 3: comeback in Denver and a bit of a shocking win. 415 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 2: Like are the Calves good again? 416 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 3: Uh? 417 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 2: Jared Allens playing out of his mind? No, Evan Mobley. 418 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 3: They're starting Sam Merrill and Jaylon Tyson. I watch a 419 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 3: lot of college basketball. I don't know who Jaylon Tyson is. 420 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 3: They've got someone named Nick Kwan, Tomlin coming off the bench, 421 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 3: Craig Porter. 422 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 2: I'm stunned at this win. I don't know what to 423 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 2: make of the Caves. 424 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 3: I'm just curious your James Harden take is what the 425 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 3: James Harden is washed. Is gonna ultimately let down the 426 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:00,119 Speaker 3: Calves in the playoffs like he does every year for 427 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,919 Speaker 3: whatever team or is this a big nothing burger. 428 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 4: Well, he's definitely gonna let them let him down the 429 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 4: playoffs like that goes without saying. But in the short term, 430 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 4: this season and even next season, the regular season, he's 431 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 4: gonna work wonders for that team because it allows Donovan 432 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 4: Mitchell to do a don of Mitchell does best, and 433 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 4: that's score. That's first and foremost, and number two, I 434 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 4: think he has thirty plus points. He's in the first 435 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 4: two games together. And number two Jared Allen is going 436 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 4: to be getting Now it might be too late for 437 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 4: this season, like first or second team All NBA consideration 438 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 4: with James Harden at center or with James Harden that 439 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:39,400 Speaker 4: point guard, because few guys this side of Luka Doncic 440 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 4: set up the rolling big man better than James Harden 441 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 4: does Bost in terms of the lobs and most importantly 442 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 4: with the pocket pass, because he has that wide body, 443 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 4: he plays at his own pace. He knows how to 444 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,160 Speaker 4: navigate the pick and roll and he just last second 445 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 4: drop it off dunk easy. I think in the first 446 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 4: game Jared Allen went at ten for eleven shooting yeah, 447 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,159 Speaker 4: and then and then and then last night and he 448 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 4: goes ten for sixteen right, twenty two and thirteen light 449 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 4: work against Nikola jokicch So in the short term this season, 450 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 4: in the regular season, you might see, you know, Cleveland 451 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 4: jump up into that top three conversation. I don't know 452 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:15,160 Speaker 4: if they'll actually get there, but they'll be right there 453 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 4: in the. 454 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:17,679 Speaker 2: Way are your top way? Who are your top three? 455 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 2: In the East. 456 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 4: Detroit is going to be one. I think New York 457 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 4: is going to be two, and then depending what happens 458 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 4: with Jason Tatum, I think Boston and Cleveland are fighting 459 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 4: for that thirds. 460 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:29,640 Speaker 2: Interesting. 461 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 462 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 463 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to 464 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 1: listen live. 465 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:47,640 Speaker 3: Because if you get four, you face Detroit in round two. 466 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:50,679 Speaker 3: I honestly would rather face Detroit than the Knicks. I mean, 467 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 3: Detroit's good, but I think at full strength are better. 468 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 4: So yeah, and in playoff basketball where they don't have 469 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 4: a lot of experience. That's a huge difference. 470 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Detroit looked good last You're in the 471 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:01,919 Speaker 3: first round with Kate cunning It. By the way, did 472 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 3: you see the Detroit fight last night? Like two altercations 473 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 3: in the NBA Detroit Listen, I used the word thug 474 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 3: on social media and all these people got angry things. 475 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, but Jalen Duran like as soon as he's 476 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 3: fould going right in the guy's face and then mushing him, 477 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 3: and then what's his name, beef Stu running literally sprinting 478 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 3: off the bench and starting to get in somebody's face, like, bro, 479 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 3: get just sit out, you're done. That's at least a 480 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 3: ten game suspension, right if you leave the bench, you're 481 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 3: getting suspended. And he went like with purpose like that 482 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 3: was not good. I don't listen, man, I like Kate 483 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 3: cunning It. I don't less necessarily like this team's attitude. 484 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:40,679 Speaker 3: They just I don't want to use the word punk. 485 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 2: I like that what they need. 486 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 4: That's what they need to play, like, that's their recipe 487 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 4: for success. They are very similar to like the GrITT 488 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:55,199 Speaker 4: and grind Grizzlies back in the day. On second round, Yeah, well, 489 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 4: he ran into Steph Curry and those guys. Yeah, yeah, 490 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 4: but like that they play with the intensity that they 491 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 4: play with. They're not there to make friends, they're there too. 492 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 4: They play very hard. That's probably the thing that they 493 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,160 Speaker 4: do the best. It's not just like the fouling. It's 494 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 4: just the effort that they give on a night to 495 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 4: night basis is palpable. And when you have a guy 496 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 4: like kid coming in Cunningham leading the show, you're gonna 497 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 4: win a lot of games like that. The problem is 498 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 4: you get to the playoffs and teams can you know, 499 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 4: gear up to stop or slow down Kate Cunningham, who's 500 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 4: the other guy they have, is gonna do it exactly. 501 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 3: Let's see how they like it, you know, Duran and 502 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:33,400 Speaker 3: Stuart all this physical toughness. Let's see when people start 503 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 3: to rough up Kid Cuttingham. Let's see how they feel. 504 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 3: Right again, I mean, just be ready to take it 505 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 3: when you're au dishing it out all the time. 506 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 2: Again. 507 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 3: I actually like this Hornets team that got in the 508 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:47,640 Speaker 3: skirmish with them. Hornets, by the way, fun their nine 509 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,160 Speaker 3: game winning streak is over. We have plenty of time 510 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 3: to do a lot of NBA stuff. They are a 511 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 3: fun team now. Obviously, I can't ride with Miles Bridges, 512 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:58,159 Speaker 3: who seems like a bad human being, and the Moose 513 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 3: who played nineteen minutes one shot. He basically just goes 514 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 3: in and gets boards. But with him in the lineup, 515 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 3: Brandon Miller, Khankadipple, they're actually like plucky. They've dusted off 516 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 3: Grant Williams. 517 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 2: I don't mind. 518 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 3: I think Trey Man's got does some things off the bench. 519 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,199 Speaker 3: They've got a fun team. I don't know if they 520 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 3: can get out of the plane, but yeah, there's just 521 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 3: a lot of stuff, Rob, we haven't caught up in 522 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,360 Speaker 3: around the league, by the way, as the Warriors get 523 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 3: their butts kicked in at home, Oh my gosh, by 524 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 3: they're down fifteen by Memphis at the end of three. 525 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 3: No Steph Curry for the up until the All Star break. 526 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,640 Speaker 3: No Steph Curry in the All Star Game. I mean, 527 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 3: this is who the Warriors started Rob on Monday night. 528 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:45,399 Speaker 3: Draymond Gooey, Santos, Gee Santos. I'm sorry, geez g u 529 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 3: I Santos put some respect on the Santo's name. Sorry, sorry, 530 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:56,440 Speaker 3: d Anthony Melton, Moses Moody and Pat Spencer. Holy smokes 531 00:24:56,440 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 3: that his brutal. I mean, I'm sorry. I I go 532 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 3: back to my get Curry out of there. I need 533 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,120 Speaker 3: to see him on a contender. I just I can't 534 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 3: stand this. They are eighth in the West by a 535 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:11,400 Speaker 3: little bit. Portland is lurking. But the problem is rob 536 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 3: Nobody wants to be good. Everybody wants those lottery balls. 537 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 3: So like Memphis is not trying. You know, they sell 538 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 3: off Jared Jackson. They're not trying, and they're smoking Golden State. Now, 539 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 3: the fourth quarter may come and Memphis may go to 540 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 3: like five guys on her two way and try to 541 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 3: lose the game. But like Portland are, they're gonna get 542 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 3: in the playoffs. Your guy Kawhi Leonard's playing the best 543 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 3: ball of his career. I'm waiting for the other shooter 544 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,400 Speaker 3: dropping an injury to happen. But it's just it's a 545 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 3: weird season in the league. Do you see that the 546 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 3: Wizards traded for Trey Young, shut him down, traded for 547 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,680 Speaker 3: Anthony Davis had told him, hey, you can stay in Dallas. 548 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 4: I love that you can work from home, you can 549 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 4: work from homemade. 550 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 2: Just work remotely. It's all good. We'll catch up with 551 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 2: you in the summer. See what the market's like for you. 552 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:55,399 Speaker 2: I mean, they don't want to win gaines. 553 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 3: It's comical. And everybody blasting the All Star Game because 554 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,919 Speaker 3: there's no Curry. I don't think Luca's gonna play. We'll see, 555 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 3: but I'm like, guys, time out. Just remember that. 556 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:09,959 Speaker 2: The Pro Bowl just announced Shador Sanders as a Pro Bowler. 557 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:11,400 Speaker 2: And that is Shador. 558 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:14,679 Speaker 3: Sanders who had seven tds and ten interceptions and completed 559 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 3: like fifty eight percent of his path So the Pro 560 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 3: bowls a joke. 561 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 2: I don't want to hear about it. 562 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 3: Okay, sure, the NBA All Star Game is not great, 563 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 3: but all these All Star games stay. 564 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, let's not forget that Joe Flacco was getting reps 565 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 4: there in the in the Pro Bowl as well. 566 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 2: All's right. 567 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,120 Speaker 4: I mean, what does it say about about the Cleveland 568 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 4: Browns that they had a former Coach of the year, 569 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,719 Speaker 4: two Pro Bowl quarterbacks who both got reps this season, 570 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,199 Speaker 4: the defensive Player of the Year, defensive Rookie of the year, 571 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,440 Speaker 4: and they only won five games. Not great. 572 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 3: We'll see where Jim Schwartz ends up. As I watched 573 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 3: Jake la Ravia cook, I mean, listen, Jake Laravia's got game. 574 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:52,639 Speaker 3: By the way, I gotta give Rob g credit. 575 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 2: He's the one who texted me the snow Time Lakers 576 00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 2: as a reference to how they could put five white 577 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 2: guys on the floor now that they have Luke, Canard, Reeves, 578 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 2: La Ravia, Luca, and I guess they could. Who would 579 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 2: be the fit Dalton connect. 580 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 4: Ann at Kleeber, Timmy True Timmy. 581 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 2: I forgot about that. 582 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 3: Guys. 583 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 4: That's nineteen sixty five all over again. 584 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 2: Jason, Yeah, Snow Time Lakers. All right, So we're rambling here, 585 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,199 Speaker 2: but I do want to wrap up. I am just 586 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,640 Speaker 2: curious Rob now that we're about what are we thirty 587 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 2: fifty four? 588 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 3: So we're I'm sorry, yeah, about thirty games away from 589 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:33,919 Speaker 3: the end of the NBA season. 590 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 2: I came in thinking Rockets, Knicks. I've kind of cooled 591 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 2: a bit on the Rockets. I do still think the 592 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 2: Knicks come out of the East when they're at full strength. 593 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,199 Speaker 2: But I'm on board with the San Antonio Spurs. I 594 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 2: think they're the best team in the West. I don't know. 595 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:51,159 Speaker 3: I know SGA being out has muddled the waters a 596 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 3: little bit, but. 597 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 2: Any thoughts on who you got to go to the finals? 598 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,199 Speaker 4: I mean, it's still hard to bet against Okac just 599 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 4: because you know, unlike san Antonio, they've proven it. And 600 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:04,400 Speaker 4: to be honest with you, if there was a team 601 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 4: I was gonna bet to beat Okac, it wouldn't be 602 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 4: san Antonio, would be Denver. Oh not, because I think 603 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 4: that they're even, you know, markedly better than san Antonio. 604 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 4: I just think when it comes down to the playoff basketball, 605 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 4: it's all about matchups, and Nikola Jokic is a matchup 606 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:22,359 Speaker 4: problem for Okac. Chet Holmgren weighs less than I do 607 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 4: right now, like Isaiah Hartenstein is. 608 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 2: There's no way you're he's got at least two fifteen. 609 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 4: I don't know. I'm just kidding to Isaiah Hartenstein is 610 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 4: on a really good team, like a rotational big or 611 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 4: a low end starting center right. Jalen Williams the other 612 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 4: Jalen Williams is a fine third or fourth big man. 613 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 4: When you're going against the best player in the league 614 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 4: who collects thirty point triple doubles like their tic TACs, 615 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 4: like that's a problem and in playoff basketball you can 616 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 4: slow it down. We saw last season that they gave 617 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 4: them all they could. With Aaron Gordon having one good 618 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 4: leg and Kristen Brown was banged up, and so it's 619 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 4: like that all these things go wrong and they still 620 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 4: had him right there. So if there was a team 621 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 4: I was gonna pick to unseat the defending champs, it'd 622 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 4: be Denver. 623 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 2: Hmm. 624 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 3: Interesting, I gotta see what they look like with Aaron 625 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 3: Gordon back. They are holding it down still third, although 626 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 3: if the Lakers end up winning this, they would tie 627 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 3: Denver for third. 628 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 4: Hurt right now, yeah they are. 629 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 2: But then the Lakers, by the way, what a brutal stretch. 630 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 3: So I think it was like Wednesday, no, no, I'm sorry, 631 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 3: Thursday against the Sixers, Saturday against the Warriors, Monday. Ok 632 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:40,479 Speaker 3: see Tuesday, San Antonio. That is a brutal four game stretch. 633 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 3: Even though we made fun of the Warriors a minute ago, 634 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 3: it's the Golden State Warriors. Steve Kerr is still breathing 635 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 3: on the bench. Okay, the Sixers are actually good and 636 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 3: Beads playing out of his mind. Sixers are a sneaky 637 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 3: team that you really like. I think the Sixers are 638 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 3: probably scarier in the East than the Celtics are Raptors, right, 639 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 3: I guess it would change it. 640 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 2: Jason Tatum's back, but I don't expect him to be back, 641 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 2: so I don't know. 642 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 3: This is just a tough stretch for the Lakers and 643 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 3: no Luca, like, come on, this is rough. That being said, 644 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 3: if Luca plays against these Spurs, I will greatly greatly 645 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 3: like their chances just because. 646 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 2: He's like that. All right, good to have Rob g back. 647 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 2: We are back tomorrow. See that.