1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:00,880 Speaker 1: Warren. 2 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 2: Today's episode Candad's spoilers for gen V season two, including 3 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 2: the excellent episode seven and the season finale. Hello, I 4 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 2: am is Jason and I'm Merday Night and welcome back 5 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 2: to x Revideon of the podcast where we dive deep 6 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:34,160 Speaker 2: to your favorite shows, movies, comics of pop culture. Coming 7 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 2: you from my heart, We're we're bringing you three episodes 8 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 2: a week. 9 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 3: In today's episode, me and Jason are going to be 10 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 3: digging into the final three episodes of gen V, including. 11 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 1: A question over whether episode seven or eight should be 12 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: the finale. 13 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 3: Ooh, but first let's get to godalkin you. So basically, 14 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 3: last time we left off, we were at El Mirah 15 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 3: and that is where we begin, and of course the 16 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 3: group are able to break out again. They saved Annabeth's 17 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:07,839 Speaker 3: life and that was very good because she is secretly 18 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 3: pre cognitive. Now, Jason question, is she pre cognitive because 19 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:17,759 Speaker 3: Marie gave her her powers? Or was she always pre cognitive? 20 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 3: I am interested in that question. We get to see 21 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 3: Emma and she saves Polarity aka Sweet Sweet, chases father 22 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 3: Andre's father. He is being puppeted by Cipher, which will 23 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 3: become a big plotline over the next couple of episodes, 24 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 3: Cipher is sending out his best after Marie, but she 25 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 3: is very powerful. Marie is also searching for shocking terms 26 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 3: here and I think a comeback I did not see, 27 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 3: and I may make an argument was a more interesting 28 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 3: finale than the Peacemaker finale had to offer. We get 29 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 3: a return from none other than Stan Edgar, someone I 30 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 3: was not expecting to see and to be because of 31 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 3: the nature of the fact that of where we first 32 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 3: met the incredible actor. Oh my gosh, why am I 33 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 3: forgetting his name? Oh my god, he's gonna be Charles Xavier. 34 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 3: Why is this happening to me? The Internet? I know 35 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 3: you can help me. 36 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 4: Gian Carlos Posita, thank you. 37 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: Yes. 38 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 3: Because of where we originally met, Jihan Carlo Esposito, I 39 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 3: do feel like whenever I see him, because of Breaking Bad, 40 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 3: I immediately think pressed these TV show, So I think 41 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 3: they did a really good job here. Unexpected to see 42 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 3: the man who was part of you know, vot coming 43 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 3: in as a helper, and then we learn what we 44 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 3: had Alady suspected, which is essentially that Project Odessa has 45 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 3: only had two successes, and they are Marie and Homelander. Obviously, that, 46 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 3: you know, they didn't know Marie had powers when she 47 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 3: was young, so they thought that it was a failure. 48 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 3: Then this is the big one, guys, that has been 49 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 3: annoying me. We get some Sam Emma time. We're gonna 50 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:11,359 Speaker 3: get a lot of it. It's gonna be very frustrating. 51 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:13,639 Speaker 3: I love this relationship in the first season. I do 52 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 3: not think they're delivering here. I think it's very annoying. 53 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 3: I also think Sam is not doing a good job 54 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 3: at any kind of reconsider. 55 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 2: I agree it's like a well, I will say that. 56 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:27,239 Speaker 2: Here's what I liked about it. It's will they won't they? 57 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 2: In the in in theory, but it's also I kind 58 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 2: of liked the angle of Sam isn'to Emma and Emma's 59 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 2: just kind of over it, but is searching for a 60 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 2: way to like let him off easy. 61 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 5: Although at times it felt like is. 62 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: That what they're doing? 63 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:50,119 Speaker 2: Like there were that it was just too ambiguous where 64 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 2: I'm like, does she like it? 65 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: Because? 66 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 3: And now I'm like, I think the first I think 67 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 3: in the first season it was such an interesting relationship 68 00:03:57,600 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 3: of two people who are outside, two people who had 69 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 3: tried their best to survive. And I do think that 70 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 3: It's interesting to see them kind of unsure as. 71 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 4: Real teenagers are. 72 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 3: But at the same time, I also feel like, and 73 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:11,839 Speaker 3: this is an issue that I do think runs through 74 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 3: these last three episodes, I also feel like. 75 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: The show is slightly unsure. 76 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 3: What to do with Sam, which I think is a 77 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 3: shame because I just thought he was such an interesting 78 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:25,039 Speaker 3: character in the first season. We will now start to 79 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 3: get to the meat of the season, and I want 80 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:29,359 Speaker 3: to say, lots of listeners were right about this, so 81 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 3: giving you a lot of cheers, guys. 82 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 4: Basically, they are starting. 83 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 3: To notice that there are a lot of Thomas Godolkin 84 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 3: connections with old Cipher. Is Cipher using Thomas Goadlkin's old research? 85 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:44,840 Speaker 4: What could Cipher be doing? 86 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 3: And then somebody remembers, oh, wait, do you remember there 87 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 3: was like a burnt up guy in his apartment? And 88 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 3: do you remember how the beginning of the season there 89 00:04:55,120 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 3: was Ethan Slater aka missus Ariana Grande aka Bockwoodsman from Wicked. 90 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 3: And guess what, guys, it it probably is him in there. 91 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 3: It's actually him, and I guess at this point they 92 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 3: think that Cipher's plan is to use Thomas Kadawkins's body 93 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:16,600 Speaker 3: somehow try and work out some kind of plan. 94 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:17,799 Speaker 1: They don't realize the truth. 95 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 3: Cipher then reveals his ultimate plan, which classic to early monologuing, 96 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 3: is basically like Boom, I'm gonna kill all the week superheroes. 97 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 4: Yes, okay, bro, what the fuck. 98 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: Like that's your plan? 99 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 4: Seems dumb? 100 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 1: Why you worked at school? 101 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 3: And then we obviously get the polarity showdown where he 102 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 3: gets to take off his mask of civility and teaching 103 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 3: and ends up kind of sticking up for his. 104 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 4: Son who Cipher was? 105 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 1: You know who? 106 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:52,039 Speaker 3: Cipher basically killed even though it was you know the 107 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 3: who did what was? He forced Andre into killing himself 108 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 3: by using his powers too much, And Marie and Kate 109 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 3: are back friends again, another real relationship. I do not 110 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 3: understand if I'm Kate, if I'm friends with Kate, She's 111 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:05,479 Speaker 3: getting her head chopped off, like I'm sick of her 112 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 3: at this point. 113 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 2: She's I am I found there, she is a betrayer, 114 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 2: She's a mixed up. 115 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 4: Kid, no will, she'sistic. 116 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 5: I found there. 117 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 2: I've found much of their relationship to actually be annoying 118 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 2: over the course of the season, but I actually like 119 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 2: surprising to me. 120 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 5: I found their reunion to be Actually it hit home. 121 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 2: I like, I actually was like I'm feeling this like 122 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 2: I it was, I felt the emotion of that. 123 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 3: I think that's the thing that keeps me watching this 124 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 3: show is that the characters and the actors they do 125 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 3: elevate it. 126 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 4: Like a lot of times you'll be like, what is 127 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 4: going on? 128 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 3: Very teenage of them to be constantly falling in and 129 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 3: out of romances and friendships and blah blah blah. But 130 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 3: I'm also just like, at some point, you're like, this 131 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 3: girl every single time, she's gonna betray you. 132 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 2: Guys, Listen, I don't now I'm gonna stick up for 133 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 2: Kate even though I agree with you. She is a betrayer, 134 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 2: and if that happened to me, I would never forgive. 135 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 5: That's it. 136 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 2: I think Kate has gone with a broken power set 137 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 2: that makes her extremely vulnerable, has gone to laudable lengths 138 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 2: to try and make up for it, and has put 139 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 2: herself in danger even though like her plans are pretty 140 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,119 Speaker 2: fucked up and bad, and she got them all thrown 141 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 2: in prison once again. But I put herself out there. 142 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: And I respect it as well. 143 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 3: I will say, Kate, even though it is fucked up, 144 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 3: has always been coming from a place of trying to 145 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 3: protect her friends. That's why she's always wiping people's memories 146 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 3: and stuff. So yes, okay, I will recap episode seven Annabath. 147 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 3: She wakes up, she's looking for her sister, and no surprise, 148 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 3: she's had a kind of you know, minority report styles. 149 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 4: Pilarity basically tells. 150 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: Them like, hey, this is really going not great, like 151 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: I can fight him, but sure. Kate is also like this. 152 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: I found very interesting. 153 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 3: What are Marie's powers when it comes to healing soups 154 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 3: versus healing their powers. That's a big conversation that Kate 155 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 3: and Marie try to have. I was also disappointed this 156 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 3: episode because we do start to get the kind of 157 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 3: like fractures between Jordan and Marie, and I'm a big 158 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 3: Jordan and Marie lover. Then we learn that Annabeth actually 159 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 3: did always have original powers. 160 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: She was not given her powers by Marie. 161 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 3: She too had superpowers hers with just not as nightmarish 162 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:54,079 Speaker 3: as a blood bending. Then we get to the point 163 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 3: where we learn that Polarity has his own scheme. He's 164 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 3: taken his plan, He's going he's taken Cipher and he's 165 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 3: gonna find out what happened. 166 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 4: But remember, just like good old, good old. 167 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 3: Charlesick Savior in the movie A Logan, there is Polarity 168 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 3: has a degenerative illness that means that every time he 169 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 3: uses his powers, he is kind of fucking up his 170 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 3: brain a bit more there was there's a big seizure here. 171 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 1: It's definitely an als kind of illness. But and I 172 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: have to say, I didn't see this coming. 173 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 3: I'm interested to see other people's conversations about this now 174 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 3: the episode is out. 175 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 1: I need to dig into them more. 176 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 4: After this episode, Marie just cures. 177 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 1: Him, right, she just cures him. 178 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:42,439 Speaker 3: And I found this to be very interesting. Jason, give 179 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 3: me your take, because that's a huge moment. 180 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:46,839 Speaker 5: My take is that. 181 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 2: I think that genv has done a good job of 182 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 2: keeping the evolution of everyone's powers, including Marie's and the 183 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 2: and the kind of synergistic way the powers work when 184 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 2: they're all together polarities powers for instance, secondary powers. 185 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. 186 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 5: With regards to. 187 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 2: Cipher, I think they've done the show has done a 188 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 2: good job of balancing it and not making it too 189 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 2: disx machina at times, which sometimes it feels like that 190 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 2: I was. 191 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 5: I was surprised. 192 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 2: I think I was surprised that at the ease with 193 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 2: which she jumped directly to being able to do this, 194 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 2: And I liked overall, I think it was it was pretty, 195 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 2: it was cool, and you knew kind of where it 196 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 2: was going once you saw that she could do this. 197 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought it was really interesting. I like it 198 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 3: because also, you know that is obviously in fiction, lots 199 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 3: of kind of issues something I've written about, wrote about 200 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 3: with like the magical disability Q. But this is in 201 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 3: the this is in the scope and the space of 202 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 3: he is dying, he has a degenerated right and this 203 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:03,959 Speaker 3: is also a black supero saving another black superhero whose 204 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 3: son she couldn't save. 205 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 4: I thought it was good. 206 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 3: And like you said, I think the emotional moments in 207 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:11,559 Speaker 3: this final three episodes are really good. 208 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 5: Really good. 209 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 2: Without the emotional moments, I think this is almost like 210 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 2: a beyond terrible show. 211 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 5: But right to your point. 212 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 3: No, I think that the best thing about it is 213 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 3: the kids and the kids keeping caring. They really when 214 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 3: you're describing it, you are like, okay, and then and then, 215 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 3: but really. 216 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 1: It's those big emotional moments. 217 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 3: It's Jas Sinclair, it's the guy who plays Emma who 218 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 3: I just think is so funny and brilliant. Yeah, she's 219 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 3: so great. So as always, Cipher just really. 220 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: Wants to get Marie to train. Why does he care 221 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: so much? 222 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,679 Speaker 3: Clearly she is meant to be his big weapon in 223 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 3: the killing weak Soups plan, But I'm also confused because 224 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 3: I'm like, sir, you're at a school where they're just 225 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 3: last year was like a virus that was able to 226 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 3: kill every superhero. I feel like, couldn't you have just 227 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 3: like done a version of that to kill. 228 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 4: The weak kid? 229 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 3: Like I'm not trying to say you should kill these kids, 230 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 3: but I feel like specifically using the powers of one 231 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 3: person who is not aligned with you is never gonna 232 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 3: end well. But again, we get those emotional moments and 233 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 3: it becomes about Marie having to choose her friends. 234 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 4: And their survival over. 235 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 3: Anything else, and that I think has been something season 236 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 3: two has done pretty well to show kind of how 237 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 3: complicit the kids have to be to survive. And then 238 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 3: the reality is you get a big final fight. But 239 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 3: the big reveal from from episode seven that I think 240 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 3: is probably would have been good to leave for a 241 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 3: finale reveal. 242 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 2: And will I agree with you? And let's talk about 243 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 2: that when we get into the discussion. 244 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 5: Couse, I agree with you. 245 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 3: We will say that what you learn at the end 246 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 3: of this episode is done done that as many we 247 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 3: were rights will be dinging in the discords. Thomas Goodolkin 248 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 3: is in fact the one who has the puppeteering powers, 249 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 3: and he is the one who has been puppeteering the 250 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 3: Hamish link later version of Thomas Godolk of Cipher that 251 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 3: we know, but the real cipher is done, done, done 252 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 3: Ethan Slater. 253 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 4: It is Marie heals him. 254 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 3: Probably not a good idea, and then you realize, oh shit, 255 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 3: it's Thomas who had the plan all along. It's box 256 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 3: Woodman bock would box bock Woodman from Wicked box Wood 257 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:43,079 Speaker 3: that wicked guy. And yes, and he is gonna now 258 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 3: be fully healed by Marie to to plan killing. 259 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: All the soups. 260 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 3: So good for him, good for that terrible man, and uh, 261 00:13:54,400 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 3: good for honestly Amazon forgetting the old big big hero 262 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 3: six kind of level stars out for this one with yeah, 263 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 3: with Goadalkin and into the finale we work. 264 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 2: In the finale, Uh, Tom Godalkin now up on his feet. 265 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 3: Uh. 266 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 2: Sends an email blast to the to the student body saying, hey, everybody. 267 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 5: Guess what. 268 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 2: I know that a lot of people have been frustrated 269 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 2: at the kind of ladder, the hierarchy here at Godalkin, 270 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 2: you where it felt like, you know, there's a select 271 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 2: few amount of students who are able to rise to 272 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 2: the top and get the you know, the access to 273 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 2: the prime nil superhero deals and perhaps like a pathway 274 00:14:57,880 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 2: to the seven. 275 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 5: Well, guess what are opening up the doors. We're throwing 276 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 5: it all. 277 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 2: Open and everybody now is gonna get a chance to 278 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 2: compete for those primes. It's not just gonna be a 279 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 2: selection process. It's gonna be open enrollment. Come down to 280 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 2: my office tomorrow and we're gonna hash it out. 281 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 5: And guess what. It's a trap. 282 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 2: Of course, our heroes, our heroes of course know it's 283 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 2: a trap, and so they're as this is happening. They're 284 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 2: trying to figure out, Okay, what how do we we 285 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 2: know this is a trap And we know that Goodalkin 286 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 2: slash Cipher is all about mutant supremacy. Right, He's gonna 287 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 2: want to call the week in his own words, He's 288 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 2: gonna want to call the week. And this has gotta 289 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 2: be what this is about? How do we get in there, 290 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 2: so they're planning to get in there. It's just as 291 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 2: they thought. Goodalkin gathers the student body and just has 292 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 2: everybody like killing each other willy nilly. 293 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 3: Almosto makes sense because of what we saw with the 294 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 3: training he was doing. 295 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 4: I almost so like is this I feel like. 296 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 3: And this is you know, definitely a boys you know 297 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 3: that's problem, But like why is everyone so dramatic? 298 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: Like why can't he just do like a normal version 299 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: of killing off that, you know what I mean? 300 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 3: Like, that's my favorite thing about this universe is everyone's 301 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 3: still the most extreme version, Like you just got a 302 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 3: bunch of kids killing each other. 303 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 4: I feel like you. 304 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 1: Could have come up with an easier way to do this, 305 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: my guy. 306 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, And also like can't I understand some of the 307 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 2: powers are not that cool, but like a fire power, 308 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 2: for instance, to control fire, I think. 309 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 5: Is pretty cool. 310 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 2: But when I'm kidding, so, can't you find like another 311 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 2: job for some of these people? 312 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 5: Like they don't? It seems like such a waste anyway. 313 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 3: It does also, Okay, I want to also let's let's 314 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 3: check in because this was something that you know, we 315 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 3: didn't get too into, but let's also talk about the 316 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 3: Dolkins relationship with sister Sage and well. 317 00:16:55,680 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 2: Listen, Okay, so this let's just like roll the justscussion 318 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:04,919 Speaker 2: into the recap as well. I will say some of 319 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 2: episode eight, the finale, particularly the beginning when it's like 320 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 2: and even the relationship when he was puppeting Cipher. 321 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 5: Yes, felt like. 322 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 2: It. 323 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 5: It felt like kink shaving to me a little bit. 324 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:30,120 Speaker 2: Jason and I listen, like, there's you know, sexual uh 325 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 2: proclivities on display here that I'm not personally into. That said, 326 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 2: I found it a little bit like, hey, if you're 327 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 2: into this kind of more SMM style sex, you're. 328 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 4: Evil and wa was weird, right right? 329 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 3: I feel like that's very against the general understanding of 330 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 3: what BDSM has become posts ah, you know, fifty Shades 331 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 3: of Gray, which was really unrepresentative but opened up a 332 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 3: lot of normal people's minds to what it could be. 333 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 3: I feel like that has been to talk about how 334 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 3: consensual it is, to talk about how non evil it is, 335 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:05,160 Speaker 3: to talk about how all. 336 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:06,719 Speaker 1: Different kinds of people do it. 337 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 3: And obviously we spoke about Pillion coming up like a 338 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:12,479 Speaker 3: dom com. So yeah, I do think I think that 339 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 3: you and Ian were onto something with that. 340 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 2: Catch it's not for me, Like, that's not what I know, 341 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 2: It's not for me in my life. But I felt 342 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 2: like they used this these kind of scenes as character 343 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:30,880 Speaker 2: builders in a way that seemed to suggest, like, hey, 344 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 2: there was an implication of like the moral connection between 345 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 2: the second yes and their behavior, And I do think 346 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 2: that that is an outdated take and I felt like 347 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 2: it went a little bit over the line into shaming 348 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 2: essentially for me. 349 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, Also, what is the appeal. 350 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 1: To sister stage of this relationship. That's my other thing. 351 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 1: She's like the smartest person. 352 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 3: She's incredibly strong and sexy and cool. And when we 353 00:18:56,600 --> 00:19:02,159 Speaker 3: first saw her with are, when we first saw her 354 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:06,919 Speaker 3: with our you know, Hamish link later version, I was like, Okay, 355 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:08,879 Speaker 3: these two they are new up and comers there. But 356 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:11,679 Speaker 3: I don't know if I believe that Puppetier the Dolkin 357 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 3: has the juice. 358 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 2: Yes, so our heroes come up with a plan that 359 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 2: includes climbing into the butt of butt boy. 360 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 3: Could you be surprised his butt has been linked in 361 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 3: every episode? Everyone to know why there were so many 362 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 3: butt jokes and butt stuff in this season. It's been 363 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 3: leading to this, which is obviously a riff on our 364 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 3: big and man than asks can't he just go up 365 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 3: the button explode him joke, which has been done many times. 366 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:44,439 Speaker 2: Kate now with her full powers thanks to Marie In 367 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 2: what again, what was an emotional moment when Marie's like, 368 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 2: I'm gonna heal you now manages to get one more 369 00:19:52,080 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 2: student placed into the Hunger Games Battle Royale kill fest 370 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 2: that Thomas Godalkin is overseeing. That is butt Boy. Butt 371 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 2: Boy goes in and to go, what are you doing here? 372 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 2: I'll show you what I'm doing here, and butt Boy 373 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 2: expels all of our heroes out of the butt as 374 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 2: Marie engages with Thomas Dawkin's uh, you know, mind controlled 375 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 2: student body. Big fight happens. But then when it seems 376 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 2: like they have won and they have the chance to 377 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 2: murk Goodalkin right there, and it had me being like, 378 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 2: why are you hesitating for now? It turns out Goodalkin 379 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 2: has been applying his own philosophies to himself, using all 380 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 2: this death and violence and killing to train himself so 381 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 2: that he can now overpower Marie. He takes control of 382 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 2: Marie and she's about to cause the blood of all 383 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 2: her friends to burst out of their bodies. She's killing 384 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 2: him with her mind. But then Polarity comes in, and 385 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 2: of course Polarity has developed has realized that he has 386 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 2: the ability to not just resist Godulkin slash Cipher, but 387 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 2: to actually disrupt his powers. He does it, and then 388 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:21,400 Speaker 2: they take out Godulkin. They take him out, Happy Days. 389 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 2: They go on the run, and who should contact them 390 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 2: and find them none other than Starlighter, who says, you 391 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 2: know what, this is the energy, you guys, This kind 392 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:39,439 Speaker 2: of shot in the arm of youthful resistance energy is 393 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 2: exactly what we need to take on Homelander and Vought. 394 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 4: Oh my god, Homeliner, we just kill him already. 395 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 5: But yes, I kill it. 396 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 4: And I think Marie is. 397 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: Going to be the homeland to killer the weapon. I 398 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 1: think it will work. 399 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 4: But yeah, I agree with you. 400 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 3: Like one, I feel like the funniest thing is cosmic 401 00:21:58,400 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 3: Kumite episode could. 402 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:00,919 Speaker 1: Have gone before. 403 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,159 Speaker 4: You could have still found a way to have the. 404 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 3: Giant, crazy spectacle of the kind of kids killing each 405 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:15,119 Speaker 3: other Kumte, but left I feel like the bigger question 406 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 3: of oh, somebody wants to kill all week soups, that's 407 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 3: an interesting thing to go into the next season with. 408 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,679 Speaker 3: But instead it was like you know Godalkinstan and I 409 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 3: guess these are kind of our boys. Now this is 410 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 3: the new generation of the boys. 411 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 2: Let's take a quick break and talk about all of 412 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 2: these issues, including whether the finale should have been the finale. 413 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:56,199 Speaker 5: Be back after this war and we're back, Okay. 414 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 2: When I was watching episode seven, I had to actually 415 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 2: check that there was another episode in the hopper because 416 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 2: I was like, that felt. 417 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 5: Like and an unbelievable finale. 418 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 2: Now here's here's my reasoning, and I'm eager to know 419 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,679 Speaker 2: if you if you agree. First of all, we had 420 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 2: spent so much time with Hamish Linkletter as Cipher, and 421 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 2: he had done such wonderful job killed like mustache twisting 422 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 2: and being such an evil, fucking bastard and shouts to 423 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 2: our discord all the kind of Goodalkin is the mastermind stuff? 424 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 2: Was it? When I was watching the screener is I 425 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:43,880 Speaker 2: didn't really pick up on it. So the moment when 426 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 2: it was revealed that Ethan Slater Thomas Godalkin was the 427 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 2: real mastermind, the true villain of it, I was like 428 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 2: blown away and I kind of felt like, you spend 429 00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 2: this entire season with Cipher, and. 430 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 5: At that point I wanted I wanted it to be. 431 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 5: I wanted it to be the end. 432 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 2: Because I want to figure out, okay, like, well, what 433 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 2: are we doing next? It felt like such a strong 434 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 2: hook and and cliffhanger that I was a little disappointed 435 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 2: at the finale and the kind of it felt a 436 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 2: little bit paint by numbers, big fight against the bad 437 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 2: guy to me and I listen, I am the person 438 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,360 Speaker 2: that said we let Homelander live too long and then 439 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 2: it stretched it out too much. But I think you 440 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 2: could have turned I think so Thomas Goodalkin the Fight 441 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 2: against Goodalkin into not a whole season, but maybe a 442 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 2: couple episodes opening opisode. 443 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. 444 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 3: I also get it, like Ethan Slayer is a big 445 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 3: Hollywood and Broadway star, But also, guys, you got to 446 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 3: do costing that fits with the tone of the show. 447 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 3: And if somebody can only be around an episod or 448 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,199 Speaker 3: a couple of episodes that may not have the biggest 449 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 3: kind of payoff, because I do, and I get it 450 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 3: as well. They probably didn't want to go into season three, 451 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 3: potential season three, because I will say that Eric Kripkey 452 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 3: has come out and been like, hey, if you guys 453 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 3: want GENV season three got to keep watching, got to 454 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 3: get those numbers up, you know, which we know is 455 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 3: the game of streaming. But at the same time, like 456 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 3: I had, felt like this season had done a really 457 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 3: good job of continuing the emotional arcs of characters we 458 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 3: care about, Characters like Emma getting to make new friends 459 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,679 Speaker 3: and starting her kind of resistance group, getting to see 460 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 3: Marie and Jordan obviously loved that. Getting to see even 461 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 3: though like, personally, do I watch the show and be like, kay, 462 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:44,679 Speaker 3: I would kick you down a flight of stairs? 463 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 4: Yes? 464 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 3: Ah, is that an incredible, interesting, complicated character with really 465 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:53,400 Speaker 3: complicated powers. 466 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 4: Yes it is. And I think that in that final. 467 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 3: Episode, even though you know, we get the boys nurse 468 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 3: of like the butt boy and they're all exploding out 469 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 3: of his butt, I also feel like episode seven could 470 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 3: have set us on a path where I've seen a 471 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 3: lot of people, not just us, saying that they felt overall, generally. 472 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,159 Speaker 1: So far this has been a stronger season than the 473 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 1: last season. 474 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 3: But I agree, And I agree because I think the 475 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 3: writing of the characters and the utilization of the college 476 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 3: setting to try and have these conversations about what's going 477 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 3: on in the world is really interesting and good. 478 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 1: But I definitely did not. 479 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 3: After episode seven, I was like, oh my god, I'm 480 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 3: so glad there's another episode, Like I'm ready to go 481 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:37,160 Speaker 3: into season three? 482 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 1: What does it look like? And I do feel like 483 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 1: when I was watching the finale, it. 484 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,679 Speaker 3: Was a bit less of a hook and more of 485 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 3: like a crazy bombastic situation a boss time. Which also, again, 486 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 3: like I said, I love blood Sport, I love Kickboxer, 487 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,679 Speaker 3: I love a Kuma Ta style movie where everyone has to. 488 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: Fight each other. But that is also something. 489 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 3: They already did earlier in this season pretty well when 490 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 3: they were doing the training episodes, and also as well, 491 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 3: you know, I feel like nowadays you need to be 492 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 3: making a point. 493 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 1: If you are making a. 494 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,959 Speaker 3: Statement about, you know, the way that people kill kids, 495 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 3: I feel like there needs to be a bit more 496 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 3: of something interesting there, whether it's to do with, you know, 497 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 3: an analogy about war or like Bower Rayal was, it 498 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 3: was an analogy about the notion of a badly behaved 499 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 3: teenager and how overpopulation was killing Japan. 500 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 1: So I think Hunger Games. 501 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 3: You know, we know that really it's just bou Raal, 502 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 3: But allegedly she was watching TV and she saw the 503 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 3: you know, the mix of like a reality TV show 504 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 3: and reporting on the Iraq War, and that kind of 505 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 3: merged together. I think this big boss fight at the 506 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 3: end is more just so tonally within the world of 507 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 3: the Boys and kind of what Cipher Slash good Olkin 508 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,439 Speaker 3: wants that I don't necessarily think it branches out in 509 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 3: the interesting way that they have done. Ian made a 510 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 3: great point in the chat, it's essentially like an epilogue. 511 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 1: It doesn't really feel. 512 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 2: I have a question for Okay, so yes, I think 513 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 2: we're in agreement. It felt like episode seven could have 514 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 2: been and maybe should have been the finale. I have 515 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 2: another question for you, and this one stretches back to 516 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 2: the boys. Even Sister Sage, is. 517 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 5: She smart enough? 518 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 4: That's what if she's meant to be the smartest person 519 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:21,639 Speaker 4: I was. 520 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 3: I was expecting her to be the mastermind because I'm 521 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 3: kind of like, isn't she the most intelligent person on a. 522 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 2: You know, I think of the way I think of 523 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 2: Sister Sage, or at least my ideal version of her 524 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 2: power set. And maybe this is just my personal thing, 525 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 2: but when I hear smartest person on Earth, you know, 526 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 2: it sees all the angles I want that I want 527 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 2: that Batman debate where it's like, well, yes, yes, of 528 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 2: course Batman would be Superman because he's thought if Superman 529 00:28:55,840 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 2: suddenly attacked him, he's he's God, that's cool in his 530 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 2: a patch of kryptonite like in his suit, and he's 531 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 2: thought of all the ways that he could take him down. 532 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 2: And you never feel that with Sage's She's get surprised 533 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 2: in this scene, like she's she's shocked when Godalkin turns 534 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 2: on her and doesn't want to go with her plan. 535 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 2: And yes, she does adapt well, but she adapts in 536 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 2: a way that feels more like a roll of a dice. 537 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 3: Right than actually like her scheme. Because also, yeah, she's 538 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 3: gonna be the CEO of Bought, but what does that 539 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 3: really mean? Like that changes every single day. Ashley's getting 540 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 3: kicked out, Everyone's getting kicked out. And I really enjoy 541 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 3: her as a character and as a conceptual potential, like 542 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 3: you know, is she meant to be the new Homelander 543 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 3: or is she meant to be the new. 544 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 1: Kind of leader? 545 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 3: But I don't believe you're getting trapped by hyperbaric chamber 546 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 3: Godulkin if your sister's age, that's unbelievable to me. 547 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 1: I don't I don't think it would happen. 548 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, So I just wish there was more uh writing 549 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 2: around her plans. So you really felt like, well, she 550 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 2: has a backup to the backup to the backup, and 551 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 2: a counterplan to I just assumed. 552 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 3: And I think you're right that that doesn't fit with it, 553 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 3: and it can easily be wreckconed in a future episode 554 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 3: or she was active or whatever. 555 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 4: But I think you make a good point. And let's 556 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 4: go back to. 557 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 3: Our very first ever conversation about this show, where you 558 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 3: called out something that I thought was a really good 559 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 3: point and you and Joel talked about it a lot. 560 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 1: Which is like. 561 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 3: This notion of like how they treat soups, how they 562 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 3: treat people of color, the way that this show is 563 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 3: written around kind. 564 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 4: Of such real feeling events, but still has this absurdity 565 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 4: to it. 566 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 3: I do think the lack of writing around since the 567 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 3: stage in this moment immediately made me think of that combo. 568 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 3: So how are you feeling post finale about the show 569 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 3: and kind of the way that it approach this stuff, 570 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 3: Like did it just give us another space where it 571 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 3: can be like, oh, these powerful, rich white people are oppressed, 572 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 3: or did it like have something more interesting to say. 573 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 5: I think it. 574 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 2: I think it's gesturing at something more interesting just by 575 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 2: the weight of the characters who we've focused on over 576 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 2: the season, the Right and the rise of Polarity to 577 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 2: being a really important part of the story and even 578 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 2: sister Stage. But again, I could keep coming back to 579 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 2: this frustration I have with Sage and now I'm going 580 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 2: to put on my like, now I'm going to get 581 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 2: completely conspiratorial. Is there something like overly like, why are 582 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 2: we scared of like a really scheming, super super of 583 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 2: showing like a super smart person of color, be smart, 584 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 2: be smart in a way that's maybe manipulative, that's maybe 585 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 2: not evil, but is so far ahead of everybody else 586 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 2: that it's like WHOA. 587 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 1: I think that. 588 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 5: Yeah. 589 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 2: There are times there are times watching Stage and not 590 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 2: just in the you know, in this season, but in 591 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 2: thea where I'm like, she just seems like a regular 592 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 2: kind of smart. 593 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 3: Also, she has like a photographic memory and stuff cininically, 594 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 3: so she could have just I'm hoping that she has 595 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,239 Speaker 3: been secretly just remembering everything she's seen, kind of like 596 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:33,719 Speaker 3: a you know, Lex Luthor's girlfriend in Superman, but ditzy, 597 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 3: Like I feel like maybe she's playing. 598 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 4: It down a bit. 599 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 3: I also do generally think that you're onto something very 600 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 3: smart there, because if you think about it, the idea 601 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 3: of like a truly brilliantly intelligent black woman is just 602 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 3: an honest truth of like every day. But in the 603 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 3: Marvel universe, when they wanted to make a black character 604 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 3: the most intelligent character in the world, they had to 605 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 3: choose a young black kid in Lunella, you know, because 606 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 3: I think they were afraid, like you say, of like, well, 607 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 3: if we say an adult black women is smarter than 608 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 3: Tony Stark. 609 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 1: How are people going to react? It's like, oh my. 610 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 3: God, guys, is that it's a shame that even has 611 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 3: to be a conversation. 612 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 1: But I'm gonna have to. 613 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 3: See the Sister Sage kind of situation, Like I'm gonna 614 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 3: have to see that evolve, because I think that they 615 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 3: did tap into some really interesting, crazy things, like when 616 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 3: she was lobotomizing herself and stuff so that she could 617 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 3: like keep going. It was just like, there's so much interesting, 618 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 3: fucked up shit they could do, and I feel like 619 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 3: it was not delivered on in the way I expected 620 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 3: after what they kind of set up with her in Cipher, 621 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 3: But I'm hoping now, Thomas Cadoalkin, is you know dealt 622 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,959 Speaker 3: with we are gonna now see that actually in the Boys' 623 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 3: season five, the final season of the Boys, I need that, Yes, 624 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 3: we need to see what Sage's plan is. And also, 625 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 3: like everyone in The Boys sucks, so I'm gonna be 626 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 3: rooting for sister Sage, like if we end with her 627 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 3: being in charge and Maria's killed and stuff. 628 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 1: I'm cool. That sounds interesting, And uh yeah, I do think. 629 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 3: I think gen VI both struggles and thrives off the 630 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 3: fact that it is not based on the comics. I 631 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,840 Speaker 3: think that while we know that they have changed the 632 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 3: comics a lot from The Boys, and I was talking 633 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 3: about this on a scale pat recently. Thankfully, GENV is 634 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 3: its own thing, and I think the. 635 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,320 Speaker 1: Peaks of it. 636 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 3: It becomes a transcendently good version of extreme superherior programming, 637 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,879 Speaker 3: and it's weakness it sometimes falls back into like your 638 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 3: cwsque expectations of And it's interesting too because the finale, 639 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 3: i mean episode seven, in episode eight, they actually go 640 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 3: against a lot of the rules that we have come 641 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 3: to understand of programming. The final two episodes of TV 642 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 3: A lot of times the big action episode is the 643 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 3: penultimate episode, and then you have your emotional episode. So yeah, interesting, 644 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 3: not necessarily like a perfect season of TV, but what 645 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 3: is other than and or season two, you know, which 646 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 3: we have found this year to be a that was 647 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 3: crazy for that to come out at the beginning of 648 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 3: the year. It really makes you think about TV. But 649 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,879 Speaker 3: I love these characters. I love Ja Sinclair. I think 650 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,799 Speaker 3: she should be getting all the shine for this. I 651 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:18,400 Speaker 3: would love to see her in another leading role. And yeah, 652 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:19,840 Speaker 3: it was It was a fun show to cover, and 653 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 3: I'm glad that the Discord was into it too, because 654 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 3: I love this show even when I can see its flaws. 655 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 3: But the Discord has been really having some great convos. 656 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 3: So if you are a GENV or Boys fan or 657 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 3: have any thoughts about this season, definitely check out the 658 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 3: Discord because we were there's been a lot of conbo. 659 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 3: There was actually quite a lot of shock that there 660 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 3: was not a dedicated Gen B thread when the show started, 661 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:41,799 Speaker 3: because everyone was. 662 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 1: Like, come on, we need to talk about how this 663 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 1: connects to the Boys, and now we know. 664 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,319 Speaker 2: One more thing that I wanted to mention the scene 665 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 2: where you know good Alkin now in his healed up 666 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 2: body out of the hyperbaric chamber. He and sister Sage 667 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 2: have this huge feast, red wine, lobster, the whole thing. 668 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,880 Speaker 5: It made me think of my mom. My mom recently 669 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:06,880 Speaker 5: got a diet and gout. 670 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,400 Speaker 1: Oh no, your mom never got gout, Jason. 671 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:14,040 Speaker 2: She got a diagnosis of gout. And I was like, well, 672 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 2: here's you know, mom, here's the good news about gout. 673 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:21,960 Speaker 2: You know, I said, when she called me way later 674 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 2: than she she should have called me. She should have 675 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,840 Speaker 2: called me when she got the diagnosis. And when she 676 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 2: went to the emergency room because she had pack, she 677 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 2: waited for like a week and then she's like, it's gout. 678 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 2: And I was like, well, here's the good news, Like, 679 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,839 Speaker 2: you can you can with your diet, you can get 680 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 2: that under control. 681 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,239 Speaker 5: What have you been eating? Yeah, here's what my mom 682 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 5: told me she had been eating. 683 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:47,319 Speaker 2: My mom joined this Facebook group of older ladies, and 684 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 2: these older ladies are like the fucking uh you know 685 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 2: kids from like the Outsiders or something like. They are 686 00:36:56,560 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 2: sixty seventy plus ladies who are likeled in the streets. 687 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:05,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, they ting going out to eat, like doing weird meat. 688 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 2: Yep, they're out to eat four or five nights a week, 689 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 2: and I was like, mom, what are you eatings? This 690 00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 2: is what she told me, I meaning, she's eating lobster 691 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:20,759 Speaker 2: and she's eating a lobster again. She's eating lobster two 692 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:24,319 Speaker 2: times a week for the last eight months. And then 693 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:27,759 Speaker 2: es I get it, And then she told me, well, 694 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:31,879 Speaker 2: also she told me this like a week later. Oh yeah, well, 695 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,520 Speaker 2: I was also, there's this place that does lobsters. So 696 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,400 Speaker 2: she's eating lobster three times. 697 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:36,680 Speaker 1: A weet. 698 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:45,920 Speaker 3: Lobster poisoning or something lobster lobster and lobster roll and then. 699 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 2: Also truffles, caviar and tins of sardines. 700 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 1: She's trying to get gout. 701 00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,759 Speaker 3: She's like, what's the richest, oiliest food I can eat? 702 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:04,400 Speaker 2: And watching that scene of Thomas Godalkin with red wine 703 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:08,320 Speaker 2: dripping down his chest as he's like eating incredible, clicking 704 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:12,799 Speaker 2: his fingers of caviar and like lobster grease, I can 705 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,960 Speaker 2: only think of my mother and think that it's a 706 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:20,560 Speaker 2: good thing that Goodalkin's out of it now because he would. 707 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:21,520 Speaker 5: Have had to deal with this. 708 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:30,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, and sister Stage, be careful, do some exercise, kai 709 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,680 Speaker 3: back not three loups does the night and I gotta 710 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:34,680 Speaker 3: tell you, guys, I do love Jason's mom. 711 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:38,400 Speaker 1: She's a stylish queen of energy and incredible nature. So 712 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,799 Speaker 1: she's probably not gonna stop eating lipster every night. 713 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:44,720 Speaker 3: But you know what, hopefully she doesn't get gout again, 714 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:45,440 Speaker 3: because I've had. 715 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:46,239 Speaker 5: She had that. 716 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:48,600 Speaker 2: Do you remember at my at my wedding party, she 717 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:52,480 Speaker 2: had that walking boot that she been yes, yes, and 718 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:56,120 Speaker 2: she thought it was a tendon problem from trying on 719 00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:59,600 Speaker 2: pumps her like high he'll shoes it too, And no, 720 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:04,439 Speaker 2: it turns out that was the pre symptoms of her 721 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,040 Speaker 2: gout because she. 722 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,799 Speaker 3: Was eating some rich dinner that night at the at 723 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:11,440 Speaker 3: the wedding part. 724 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,520 Speaker 5: So so be careful, everybody. 725 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:14,799 Speaker 1: Watch you die. 726 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:16,880 Speaker 4: Guys speak all I have to say to you. 727 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:19,879 Speaker 2: On the next episode of xtra Vision, it's finally time 728 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:21,840 Speaker 2: we're pitching what we want to see in an X 729 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:22,480 Speaker 2: Men movie. 730 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:26,279 Speaker 3: Oh I'm so excited we've been probably can't wait. 731 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,240 Speaker 5: And speaking of that, just you know, quick rejoice. 732 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,520 Speaker 4: I was gonna say, let's do it, let's do it. 733 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:36,000 Speaker 2: Just a quick thing. Cipher in this season and goodalkin 734 00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:40,040 Speaker 2: shows you how op Charles Xavier is. And we're going 735 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,239 Speaker 2: to talk about that when we pitch our day movie. 736 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:48,040 Speaker 2: That's it for this episode. Thanks for listening. X ray 737 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,680 Speaker 2: Vision is hosted by Jason Septs Young and Rosie Knight 738 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:52,600 Speaker 2: and is a production of iHeart Podcasts. 739 00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:56,480 Speaker 3: Our executive producers are Joel Monique and Aaron Kolefman. 740 00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:58,759 Speaker 5: Our supervising producer is Abuzafar. 741 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,720 Speaker 4: Produces are Common, Laurent Dean Jonathan. 742 00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:03,120 Speaker 1: And Bay Wack. 743 00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:06,000 Speaker 2: A theme song is by Brian Vasquez, with alternate theme 744 00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:07,320 Speaker 2: songs by Aaron Kaufman. 745 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:10,880 Speaker 3: Special thanks to Soul Rubin, Chris Lord, Kenny Goodman and 746 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:12,719 Speaker 3: Heidi our discord moderator.