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Can wait to hear 17 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: your love notes to Los Angeles, Miss Getty Dosi Getty 18 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: das inos remos bronto la non de vayas. 19 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 3: The church is like right across the street, you know, 20 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 3: right in front of it, and I still have difficulty, 21 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 3: you know, going past there. I get physically, I don't 22 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 3: feel well, my stomach gets tight. I get like an 23 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 3: anxiety attack when I see that big space where my 24 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 3: building used to be. 25 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: From futuro Media and PRX, it's Latino, USA. I'm Maria Josa. 26 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 1: Today we visit the community of Surfside, Florida, on the 27 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: first anniversary of a tragedy that's marked in our memories, 28 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: the Champlain Towers South condo collapse that killed ninety eight people, 29 00:01:52,520 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: including ten children. One year ago, this small beachside town 30 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: in South Florida was asleep. It was past one in 31 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: the morning. It was the beginning of summer June twenty fourth. 32 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 1: But suddenly the Champlain Tower South, a condo standing just 33 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: passed a sign that welcomed you to Serfside, started to move. 34 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 1: The pool deck went first looking like a Florida sinkhole, 35 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: and then at one twenty three am, the section of 36 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: the L shaped building that pointed to the beach collapsed. 37 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: Twelve stories of apartments pancaked in about thirty seconds. Most 38 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:45,679 Speaker 1: of the ninety eight people who died were Latinos and Latinas, 39 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: like a college couple both twenty one years old, who 40 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: were in town for a funeral, a twenty three year 41 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: old nanny traveling with the family of Paraguay's first lady 42 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: and three generations of an Argentine family who lived together 43 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:06,839 Speaker 1: to mark the one year anniversary of the disaster. We're 44 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: visiting Surfside with producer Elisa Bayena. Her Cuban grandmother has 45 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: lived there for almost twenty years, and Elisa moved in 46 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 1: with her over two years ago at this start of 47 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: the pandemic. Elisa brings us a story now about memory 48 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: community and how your relationship to a place can change 49 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: after a tragic event. From Surfside, Florida. Here's Elisa. 50 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 4: Don't mean juntas. 51 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 5: I'm getting into bed with my grandma Datty. That isn't 52 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 5: her actual name, It's Norah, but she is such a dathi. 53 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 5: I'm her first grandchild, so I named her that, Okay, Pata, Well, 54 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 5: that's making fun of me because I'm twenty three. I 55 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 5: want to get into bed with her. But cuddling up 56 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 5: next to my grandma as an adult makes me feel 57 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 5: like I'm her cheeky thika. Again. When I stayed at 58 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:29,280 Speaker 5: her apartment in Surfside as a child, I used to 59 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 5: sleep in between her and my Grandpapapito outside the beach snored. 60 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 5: I could stare out at its blackness and white caps 61 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 5: and cruise ships were the only light. Dati had been 62 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:53,840 Speaker 5: living alone for six years, ever since my Grandpapapito died, 63 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 5: but then I moved in with her. During the national 64 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 5: lockdown in March of twenty twenty, she said, if COVID 65 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 5: didn't kill her, the isolation would. So I came to 66 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 5: stay with her, and I'm still here. 67 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 6: And diama faliha, maybe what lost. 68 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 5: Dati has lived in Surfside for almost two decades. She 69 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 5: left Cuba in the early sixties with Bapito and their 70 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 5: first son, Jose. They had my Dad in New Jersey 71 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 5: three years later and moved to Miami when he was 72 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:41,840 Speaker 5: an infant. In Miami, they raised my Dad and theo 73 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 5: Jose in a suburb called Westchester, where windows were dressed 74 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 5: in iron bars. But in Cuba, Dati and Papito lived 75 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 5: in Varadero and dreamed of having a home on the 76 00:05:55,560 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 5: beach again in exile. It would take them about forty years, 77 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 5: but they finally did it when they moved into this 78 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 5: apartment in Surfside. Surfside is a town on the northern 79 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 5: end of Miami Beach. It's a mostly middle class area, 80 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:26,239 Speaker 5: but the town's origins are kind of bougie. A social 81 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 5: club called the Surf Club opened in nineteen thirty It 82 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 5: was built by Harvey Firestone, as in Firestone Tires, and 83 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 5: was designed like a Mediterranean estate, with beamed ceilings proportioned 84 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 5: for a cathedral. They unloaded cases of liquor onto the 85 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 5: beach during Prohibition and hosted fashion shows by the pool. 86 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 5: Some of their guests were the Duke and Duchess of Windsor, 87 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 5: Elizabeth Taylor, and there's photos of Winston Churchhill painting the 88 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 5: resort's cabanas. Surf Club members incorporated the area into the 89 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 5: city of Miami Beach in nineteen thirty five, when there 90 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 5: were only fifty residents compared to today's roughly six thousand. 91 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 5: The Surf Club is now a four seasons but most 92 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 5: of us who live here year round don't have four 93 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 5: seasons money. We live in one story homes on cramped 94 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 5: lots and art deco apartments saved from the forties and fifties. 95 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 5: The condos on the beach can only go up to 96 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 5: twelve stories, and most of them aren't flashy like ours 97 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 5: that was built in the late eighties. Our lobby has 98 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 5: framed prints that are creased by the humidity, and we 99 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 5: have fire ants by the hoses that wash the sand 100 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 5: off your feet. Our business and commercial district is just 101 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 5: two blocks. The writer Isaac Bashevis Singer, found out he 102 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 5: won the Nobel Prize in Literature while eating at a 103 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 5: diner inside the drug store. That drug store doesn't exist anymore, 104 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:20,239 Speaker 5: but there's a kosher bakery, a salon where they filmed 105 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 5: scenes of the Real Housewives of Miami. I don't know 106 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 5: if to laugh, cry scream. I mean, this is so absurd, 107 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:35,199 Speaker 5: and an Italian restaurant owned by the singer Ricardo montanaid. 108 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 5: During the week kids take surfing lessons and retired couples 109 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 5: sit and stare. But on the weekend, that's when families 110 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 5: bring out the beach tents, and meanwhile, feral cats lounge 111 00:08:55,280 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 5: under canopies of sea grapes. Everyone here will tell you 112 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 5: that Dati is a beautiful lady. She has green eyes 113 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 5: that people remember her by, and a gap in her 114 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 5: front teeth. Like Celia Caruz. Her skin is covered in 115 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 5: sun spots and moles from growing up in Baradero. She 116 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 5: calls it her print. 117 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 6: Then print kisor Tabano isleta form e la man la. 118 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 5: Dati's print kept her from the beach because she was 119 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:43,439 Speaker 5: afraid of the sun. So Bapito is the one who 120 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 5: took my siblings in me. He taught us how to 121 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 5: break up big waves. He showed us that if you 122 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:04,959 Speaker 5: turn to the side, they won't knock you down. Dat's 123 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:08,719 Speaker 5: always telling me that surfside has nothing on. 124 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 6: Baradero Joe vahalam player. 125 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 5: I think she sounds like a Cuban snob when she 126 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:24,719 Speaker 5: says that, but I get it. This speech is man made. 127 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:28,559 Speaker 5: None of us should be here. But she has been 128 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 5: happy in Surfside because of the friends she's made. Their 129 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 5: retirees from up North, Orthodox Jews, Latin American immigrants polls. 130 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 5: When Babido was alive, he would play dominoes in the 131 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 5: mezzanine and talk for hours with our neighbors in the pool. 132 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 5: Dati doesn't speak English fluently, so she communicates her guardigno 133 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 5: to our English speaking neighbors by touching their arms and 134 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 5: sharing a pastica she makes with cream cheese, almonds and red. 135 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 6: Pepperria okay gor toyo group ingle Jobria was like Evasi. 136 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 5: Okay, maybe it's weird that I'm living with my grandma 137 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 5: in my twenties, but can you blame me? 138 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:27,079 Speaker 6: I don't know. 139 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 5: No, no, no, She's fine, and I'm right on the beach. 140 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 5: If my windows are open, the beach feels like it's 141 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 5: pressed up against me. I can smell it's breath. A 142 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 5: year ago, in the early hours of June twenty fourth day, 143 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 5: was at the apartment alone because I was traveling. It 144 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 5: was past one a m. And she was praying the 145 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 5: Rosary because she couldn't sleep. The candle under her picture 146 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:16,959 Speaker 5: of Jesus was still burning, and then she heard an explosion. 147 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 5: She thought it was a bomb or maybe an airplane 148 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 5: that crashed into a building. She never ended up falling 149 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 5: asleep that night. Six blocks away, another Cuban named Maria 150 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 5: Ileana montagu she goes by. Ileana was asleep in her 151 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 5: apartment at the Champlain Tower South. She's in her mid sixties, 152 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 5: like that was when she moved to Surfside, and she's 153 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 5: una Senora. Like her nails are done, her lips are lined. 154 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 5: She went there's linen. Forty years ago, Ileana watched the 155 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 5: construction of the Champlain Towers South while bathing in the beach. 156 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 5: She thought it would be a nice place to live. 157 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 7: One day you sent you get Avireki. 158 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 5: She finally moved into the building six months before it disappeared. 159 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 5: Her son lived with her, but she was also alone 160 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 5: that night because he was staying with his girlfriend. She 161 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 5: was in a deep sleep when she was awakened by 162 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 5: a force that felt supernatural. 163 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 7: Ruidos avaloual burg a toruerla sala. 164 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 5: So once she's awake, she's like, oh my god, is 165 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 5: there like a ghost in this house or something. She 166 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 5: then gets out of bed and goes to the living 167 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:02,079 Speaker 5: room to see if maybe a sliding glass door was open. 168 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 5: It turns out a door was open. As she's trying 169 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 5: to close it, she hears another crunch, this one is 170 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:15,079 Speaker 5: louder them. 171 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 8: Handle. 172 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 5: When she turns to look, she sees a crack splitting 173 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 5: the wall in two, and that's when a voice in 174 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 5: her head started talking to her, run this building is 175 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 5: going to fall. She quickly changed into a dress and 176 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 5: flip flops before running out of her apartment. She grabbed 177 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 5: her credit cards and some jewelry she had left in 178 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 5: the dining room table the night before. The last thing 179 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 5: she did was blow out her candle for La Vidhin. 180 00:14:55,880 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 7: De a a borganar Tempocato mal Quin del PASII. 181 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 5: There was a stairwell a few feet to the right 182 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 5: of her unit, and that would have been a more 183 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 5: obvious choice if she wanted to save time, but no, 184 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 5: the voice sent her to the left, down the hall, 185 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 5: past the elevators, to the other stairwell. 186 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 7: You Infernald. 187 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 5: She had only come down two flights of stairs when 188 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 5: she heard what she describes as an infernal explosion. She 189 00:15:51,760 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 5: just knew it. The building was coming down. A twelve 190 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 5: story beachfront condo and Surfside abruptly collapsed early this morning. 191 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 9: We still don't know how many people are missing. 192 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 5: At least one person has died. Hearing the news of 193 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 5: the collapse was surreal. I just kept thinking, like, how 194 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 5: did a condo fall, and of all places, why did 195 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 5: it fall in Surfside. I was working from home and 196 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 5: could barely focus, knowing that blocks away there were people 197 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 5: trapped under millions of pounds of concrete, and it was 198 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 5: the summer on the beach. It kept raining and it 199 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 5: was sometimes ninety degrees, but fire and rescue teams were 200 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 5: working around the clock to save anyone who might still 201 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 5: be alive. I didn't even want to see the pile 202 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 5: of rubble if I went for a walk on the 203 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 5: beach path. Instead of going south toward the building, I 204 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 5: went north. Maybe I learned this from my grandparents. They 205 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 5: never returned to Cuba to see its ruins. Under a regime. 206 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 5: They fled. They thought they were better off protecting their 207 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 5: memories as they'd kept them, and didn't want to look back. 208 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 5: Illana told me that when she was finally able to 209 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 5: escape the partially collapsed building and made it out to 210 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 5: the street, she remembered a story from the Old Testament 211 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 5: about a guid named Lot. God was going to destroy 212 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 5: the city he lived in, but he wanted to save 213 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 5: Lot and his family, so two angels led them out 214 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 5: of the city and gave them these instructions, s flee 215 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 5: for your lives, but don't look back. When the sun rose, 216 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:04,880 Speaker 5: God brought down a fiery, sulfurous raging, destroying the cities 217 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 5: of Sodom and Gomorrah and killing everyone who lived there. 218 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 5: But Lot's wife wanted to see the burning landscape behind her, 219 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:20,640 Speaker 5: and she disobeyed. When she turned to look, she became 220 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 5: a pillar of salt. 221 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 1: When we come back. We hear more from members of 222 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 1: the community who are reconciling their town's identity and their 223 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: collective trauma as a result of the collapse, and survivors 224 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: tell us how they're doing one year after losing everything 225 00:18:44,520 --> 00:19:30,160 Speaker 1: but their lives stay with us. Yes, hey, we're back. 226 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:35,719 Speaker 1: Before the break, we met Elisa's Abuela and Leanna, another 227 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: Cuban exile who survived the collapse of the Champlain Towers South. 228 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 1: Here's Elisa once again with the rest of the story. 229 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 5: Father Juan Sosa slept through the collapse. He's the pastor 230 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 5: of Saint Joseph Catholic Church, which is the parish that 231 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 5: he belongs to. The Champlain Towers South site was close 232 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,880 Speaker 5: enough that you could see from outside the church rectory 233 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 5: where he lives, and. 234 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:07,199 Speaker 10: I was ready to do my morning walk on the 235 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 10: beach when I heard all kinds of sirens and noises 236 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 10: and trucks moving in and out of the area, and 237 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 10: I thought there had been an accident. And then as 238 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 10: I began to walk my usual route, I noticed that 239 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 10: that route was blocked. When we got to the beach, 240 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 10: there was a bunch of people's so I moved over 241 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 10: to them. And I met some parishioners, and then I 242 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:32,400 Speaker 10: beheld the entire collapse. 243 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 5: He started calling everyone he knew who lived in the building, 244 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 5: like friends and parishioners, but no one was answering. So 245 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 5: then he checked the church records and counted twelve families 246 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 5: who listed the Champlain Towers South as their address. He 247 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:51,120 Speaker 5: found out that two of those families no longer lived there, 248 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 5: and eight families were missing. Two others were safe. One 249 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 5: was the Lopez family. 250 00:20:58,280 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 3: What is your grandma's name? 251 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 5: My grandma's name is Nora Baiana. 252 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 8: She goes to the Spanish Mass. 253 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 5: You both go to ten. 254 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 8: Am, right. 255 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 5: Marian Smeraldi Lopez called me one evening in early May 256 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 5: with her husband Alfredo. Alfredo was born in Bogota and 257 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 5: Marian is from Brooklyn, but they moved to South Florida 258 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 5: in the late nineties when alfreddo had to relocate for 259 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 5: his job. 260 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 11: Our first choice was to look for a place that 261 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 11: had a good school system and had a beach. Well. Yeah, 262 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 11: and that basically led us to Serve sign. 263 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:33,679 Speaker 5: They lived with her son on the sixth floor of 264 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 5: the Champlain Towers South for twenty three years. Most of 265 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:39,120 Speaker 5: their son's life. 266 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 3: I woke up to the apartment, you know, shaking. 267 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 8: I was bound, like actually bouncing in the bed. 268 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:49,159 Speaker 11: We heard a noise, but I thought was like an explosion. 269 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 5: That first sound was the pool deck collapsing into the garage, and. 270 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 11: I remember Marion saying, you know, it's probably only like 271 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,640 Speaker 11: a bad, you know, bad storm or something. And before 272 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:04,959 Speaker 11: she could finish saying that, then we heard a huge, 273 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 11: a much louder explosion. 274 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 5: When Alfredo opened his front door out to the hallway, 275 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 5: he was startled by the breeze from the beach. 276 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,360 Speaker 11: To the left of me, which is on the north side, 277 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 11: was our neighbor, Estelle, and she was an apartment six 278 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 11: oh four, and there was no apartment there. There was 279 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 11: no apartment six soh three, six oh two, six oh one, 280 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 11: six eleven, Yeah, the whole hallway. 281 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 5: Eleanna, the Cuban exile we heard from in the first 282 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:38,120 Speaker 5: part of the show, lived in unit six eleven her apartment. 283 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 11: By the time that we got out, her apartment disappeared, 284 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 11: So you know how she got out that night. I 285 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 11: just don't know how she did that. I don't know 286 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:46,679 Speaker 11: how she did that. 287 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 5: Eleanna couldn't know it, but following the voice in her 288 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 5: head that sent her to the stairs furthest from her 289 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 5: apartment saved her life. If she would have taken the 290 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 5: stairs closest to her, she would have and crushed by. 291 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 8: Yeah. 292 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 5: Leanna is still stunned by the coincidences. But my grandma 293 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 5: told me that there's no such thing as only gau salidal. 294 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 5: It's a play on words in Spanish meaning there are 295 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 5: no coincidences, just chains of events reactions. 296 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 12: So my name is Hilary Feldman and I am a psychologist. 297 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 5: Hillary is trained to respond to traumatic events. She lives 298 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 5: on the top floor of my building, and even though 299 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 5: I hadn't met her until now, I recognized her from 300 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 5: the beach. Yes, no, now that you say that she's 301 00:23:55,480 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 5: always there, that my black and white Strea. The morning 302 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:04,399 Speaker 5: of the collapse, Hillary walked over to the Surfside Community Center, 303 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,879 Speaker 5: which is on our block, but be those used to 304 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 5: take me to the pool. There it was being used 305 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 5: as a reunification center for residents who were evacuated and 306 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 5: the families of those who were unaccounted for. A vacation 307 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 5: rental next door to the Champlain Towers South was also evacuated, 308 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 5: and Hillary noticed that no one was helping that group. 309 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,919 Speaker 12: I just went around the room too as many people 310 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 12: as I could, just saying that I was a community member, 311 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 12: I was a psychologist, and just wanted to find out 312 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 12: how they were doing. 313 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 5: Still, Hillary felt like there was more she could be doing, 314 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,120 Speaker 5: so she signed up for the Red Cross and now 315 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 5: volunteers as a disaster mental health worker. She remembers that 316 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 5: it was a busy time in Surfside and the media 317 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:53,479 Speaker 5: wasn't always welcome. 318 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 12: We were flooded right for several weeks, and one hand, 319 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,159 Speaker 12: it's important to be able to talk about it, and 320 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 12: on the other hand, it's difficult because it's like, are 321 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 12: they being there just to sort of like, oh, we 322 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 12: of this tragedy, Let's talk about the tragedy, and then 323 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 12: you knew that they were going to disappear afterwards. 324 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:16,160 Speaker 5: Badri Solsa understood why the media should try to make 325 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:19,479 Speaker 5: sense of what happened in real time, but it was 326 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,879 Speaker 5: exhausting to him and the community. 327 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:29,160 Speaker 10: Well, we were constantly hit by media. We were kind 328 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 10: of tired. At the end of the day. I just 329 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 10: felt that I had to take care of all of 330 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 10: these situations. 331 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 5: As the bodies of former parishioners were recovered and identified 332 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 5: Badri Sosa then occupied another public role that the media 333 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,640 Speaker 5: wanted to cover too, and. 334 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 10: Then the funerals began. The funerals did not become private 335 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 10: events as you and I know, they became public events 336 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 10: for me as the priest our pastor of the area. 337 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,920 Speaker 10: Was something that had to be done and I did 338 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 10: the best I could. 339 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 5: He gave the funeral mass for the Guada family, mom, 340 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 5: dad and their two young daughters. 341 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 10: More than ever before they are and all the ones 342 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 10: who haven't been found yet, members of our parish who 343 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 10: are still missed. 344 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:36,880 Speaker 5: Bas He also participated in the service for ninety two 345 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:41,679 Speaker 5: year old Ilda Noriega. Ilda lived across the hall from Iliana, 346 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:47,120 Speaker 5: the Cuban survivor. She remembers Ilda as an adorable yehita 347 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 5: whose hearing was really bad. 348 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 7: Y yes. 349 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 5: Ileana is now living about ten minutes it's away from 350 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 5: surfside at another condo on Miami Beach, is. 351 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:09,159 Speaker 7: Miami. 352 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 5: She's working at an assisted living facility to get out 353 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 5: of the house and also because she needs the money. 354 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 5: She's sixty five and this is the first time in 355 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:26,400 Speaker 5: her life that she's needed a job. Her ex husband 356 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 5: didn't want her to work while they were raising their kids. 357 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 7: Etal. 358 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 5: She's had a comfortable life overall, even when she lived 359 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:46,199 Speaker 5: under a communist regime. She would travel often and if 360 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 5: she wanted to buy a designer bag, she could, But 361 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 5: when her apartment came down, it swallowed everything she owned. 362 00:27:54,400 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 7: Well, yuvachico aura parranquila. It okay. 363 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 5: When she came from Cuba, she only had a suitcase, 364 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 5: but she was a young mother and full of hope 365 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 5: for what her life would be like in a free country. 366 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:27,399 Speaker 5: Now she doesn't have enough to fill a suitcase. The 367 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 5: loss she's experienced is so overwhelming that some days she 368 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 5: feels paralyzed. 369 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 7: To Irigoa Maris del Mono leant animo altimento meni mi. 370 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 5: Ileana tells me, I don't know what to do other 371 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 5: than to try to live every day, and I want 372 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 5: to have a motivation to live. But right now it's minimal. 373 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 7: Tran but it said Opera. 374 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 5: There are pieces of her life that she feels she's 375 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 5: lost too. She no longer has pictures of her parents 376 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 5: or her kids when they were young. 377 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 8: The Lord. 378 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 5: She doesn't want to live here anymore because she doesn't 379 00:29:53,040 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 5: feel safe, but leaving will still be painful. Miami Beach 380 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 5: has been her home since she came from Cuba over 381 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 5: forty years ago. Even if she did want to stay, 382 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 5: Iliana can't afford the real estate. Miami Dade County's mayor 383 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 5: recently declared we are in a county wide affordability crisis. 384 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 5: Less than two years ago, Ileana bought her apartment for 385 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 5: about six hundred thousand dollars. Now, beachfront units and older 386 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 5: buildings can go for one million or more. She's still 387 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 5: waiting to receive funds from a ninety six million dollar 388 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 5: settlement that will be divided among surviving unit owners. Ninety 389 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 5: six million sounds like a lot, but Ileana expects to 390 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 5: get less than market value for the unit she lost 391 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 5: in the luxury condo next door to the collapse site, 392 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 5: an apartment recently sold for six point two million dollars. 393 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 5: I will leave Miami Beach at the end of August. 394 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 8: How are you good? 395 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 5: Thanks God good. I met Rolling Pin Bakery on a 396 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 5: Friday morning in June. 397 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 1: BlackBerry does cherry and you said. 398 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 5: It's their busiest day of the week before Shabbat and 399 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 5: regulars are picking up their orders of hala and bagels 400 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 5: for the weekend. 401 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 2: CEO named bana Aki. 402 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 5: Samuel Aravenna was born in the Argentinian Patagonia and has 403 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 5: been living in Miami since his early twenties. That's why 404 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 5: he says he doesn't have an Argentinian accent anymore. He's 405 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 5: been at the bakery for twenty one years, first does 406 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 5: an employee and now as the. 407 00:31:54,440 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 2: Owner Familia I'm bravio. 408 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 10: Can't take it. 409 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 5: He says. Between twenty five and thirty of the victims 410 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 5: were his customers. He didn't know them all by name, 411 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 5: but he and his staff recognized their faces when their 412 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 5: pictures were posted on the surf side wall of Hope. 413 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 5: That was a chain link fence where people hung flowers 414 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 5: and mementoes. While search and rescue looked for signs of 415 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 5: life in the pile of rubble. They demolished the part 416 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 5: of the building that was still standing. On the fourth 417 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 5: of July. The town's fireworks were canceled and instead we 418 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 5: got a plume of dust. A few days later, exactly 419 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 5: two weeks after the collapse, authorities announced the transition from 420 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 5: rescue to recovery. There was no hope they would find 421 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 5: more survivors. 422 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 13: Caalmagyanaki Camino. 423 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 11: Y pis. 424 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 5: Another one of Samuel's regulars was Una Senora, who bought 425 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 5: passava every morning. She was always giving them feedback on 426 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 5: their pastelitos. They really miss her. It was a lot 427 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 5: of loss to absorb at once. Sam Wiles didn't realize 428 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 5: he was depressed until two or three weeks after the collapse. 429 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 5: He had been staying busy at the bakery to donate 430 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 5: to first responders, survivors and victims family members. 431 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 11: Are you that. 432 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 8: Cambion media. 433 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 5: Serving the community made him feel like he was part 434 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 5: of the collective grieving process. It changed him, he says, 435 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 5: And it's visible at the bakery when I visited. On 436 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,880 Speaker 5: the shelves behind him, there were boxes of bread and 437 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 5: pastries that were going to be delivered to a homeless 438 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 5: shelter the next day. And Rolling Pin still has a 439 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 5: sign that reads Surfside Strong. Samuel hung it the week 440 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 5: after the collapse. He still wears a white T shirt 441 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:29,720 Speaker 5: with the same slogan. 442 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:37,240 Speaker 2: L a Brende ham Brende Paso. He know he's song Gueco, 443 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 2: Samuel says. 444 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 5: The sadness is there, you learn to live with it. 445 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,440 Speaker 5: It happened and it left a hole in all of us, 446 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 5: But with time where he Since they cleared out the rubble, 447 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 5: the site has been empty. The rebar at the top 448 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 5: of free standing columns is frozen in year old convulsions. 449 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 5: The beach grass behind the towers was trampled in the 450 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 5: aftermath of the collapse, and they replanted it. The new 451 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 5: plants are still babies, but I've seen them grow over 452 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:57,280 Speaker 5: the last year. Hillary, the psychologist and Red Cross volunteer, 453 00:35:58,040 --> 00:35:59,919 Speaker 5: goes on daily walks by the site. 454 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 12: I don't think healing ever stops ever. But I think 455 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:09,840 Speaker 12: though that as long as there are these significant issues, 456 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 12: as long as you also have a hole in the ground, 457 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 12: it makes it certainly a barrier from moving forward. 458 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 5: Here's Marian again, the survivor and parishioner from Saint Joseph 459 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 5: that we heard from earlier. 460 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 3: The church is like right across the street, you know, 461 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,920 Speaker 3: right in front of it, right and I still have difficulty, 462 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:33,319 Speaker 3: you know, going past there. I get physically, I feel 463 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 3: don't feel well, my stomach gets tight, I get like 464 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,839 Speaker 3: an anxiety attack when I see that big space where 465 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:39,759 Speaker 3: my building used to be. 466 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 5: The National Institute of Standards and Technology is still investigating 467 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:50,600 Speaker 5: why the building failed, so there's still no official explanation. 468 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:53,480 Speaker 12: And one of the things that I think about in 469 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:55,839 Speaker 12: terms of trauma is, you know, you have to get 470 00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,880 Speaker 12: to a point of safety. There's still a piece of me, 471 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:00,759 Speaker 12: and I probably will always be a piece of me 472 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 12: that's not going to feel one hundred percent safe. 473 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:07,399 Speaker 5: The Lopez family has been receiving trauma therapy. When other 474 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:13,200 Speaker 5: survivors started talking about PTSD, Alfredo texted his therapist because 475 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 5: he wanted to know if he had been diagnosed with PTSD. 476 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:21,160 Speaker 11: She said, in a big way, a big way. 477 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 5: Still, Marian believes they're doing better. 478 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 3: Thousand percent better place than I was. I mean for months, 479 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:30,600 Speaker 3: I think I was just like in a daze. I 480 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:32,840 Speaker 3: felt like I was living a like what do you 481 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:34,719 Speaker 3: call that? Like another dimension. 482 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:37,839 Speaker 5: It's unlikely that they'll be able to buy a home 483 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,640 Speaker 5: and surfside again, but they hope they can eventually live 484 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:46,319 Speaker 5: somewhere that isn't too far from the beach, because that's home. 485 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,719 Speaker 3: Our best memories are of the beach. 486 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 8: I mean beach. 487 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,400 Speaker 3: My husband is a beach bunny. I call him a 488 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,719 Speaker 3: beach bunny every Sunday after church. He was down on 489 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 3: that beach. That was my life then and this is now. 490 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:07,719 Speaker 3: I have to create something new. 491 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:14,920 Speaker 5: I think that we can be as attached to our 492 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,920 Speaker 5: memories of a place as the place itself. 493 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:22,200 Speaker 2: Friendly, very casual, very safetown, kind of quiet. 494 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:27,000 Speaker 5: So when a tragic event invades our memory of a 495 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,600 Speaker 5: place and what it represents to us, there can be 496 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 5: a feeling of loss too. 497 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,600 Speaker 12: I don't think that it makes it all negative. I 498 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,400 Speaker 12: just think it makes it different and maybe even a 499 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,840 Speaker 12: little bit more, because you're feeling like you're part of 500 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 12: something fits changing or changed, so you can form more relationships, 501 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:53,279 Speaker 12: you can form better relationships. But this is still going 502 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,480 Speaker 12: to be part of you moving forward. 503 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,200 Speaker 5: The site where the building once stood was sold to 504 00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:10,360 Speaker 5: a developer for one hundred and twenty million dollars, so 505 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:14,480 Speaker 5: the town, with a committee of victims family members, is 506 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:20,239 Speaker 5: planning to build a memorial nearby. The community still sees 507 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,440 Speaker 5: the site as a sacred place, though, even if it 508 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:24,439 Speaker 5: won't be marked as. 509 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:53,040 Speaker 4: One find you see, we're gonna mon Idea. 510 00:39:55,440 --> 00:40:03,279 Speaker 5: I'm back in bed with my Grandma Tatia. That's at 511 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,480 Speaker 5: night is when I think about my Grandpa Pabo the 512 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:20,080 Speaker 5: most h Yes, Bapito died unexpectedly when I was sixteen, 513 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:26,920 Speaker 5: and that was a wave. I couldn't break. For years, 514 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:31,360 Speaker 5: I associated Surfside with his loss and didn't want to 515 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:36,239 Speaker 5: be here. But since I've been living with Dati, this 516 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,919 Speaker 5: place has given my memories a kind of continuity. 517 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:45,800 Speaker 4: Thank you. 518 00:40:55,200 --> 00:41:01,520 Speaker 5: Surfside Beach will never be A billion dollars of settlement money, 519 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:09,960 Speaker 5: won't bring back the neighbors we lost, but still we remember. 520 00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:20,680 Speaker 5: This episode was produced in memory of Francis Placentia, Margharita Vasquez, 521 00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:27,919 Speaker 5: Byo Rosa, Saiz, Vishan Patel, Bavna Patel, Isshanni Patel. 522 00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:38,720 Speaker 6: Edgar Gonzalez, Beatrice Perra, malielenal Gonzolo, Maria. 523 00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:50,880 Speaker 8: Tore, Alfred Lorenra, i'm at, Louis Vermore, Marcos Guerra. 524 00:41:51,320 --> 00:42:00,680 Speaker 12: Michael Altman, Ingrid Ainsworth, City Ainsworth, Gary Cohen, At Cohen, 525 00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:03,279 Speaker 12: Gloria Machado. 526 00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:13,279 Speaker 13: Richard Rosa, Maria Theresa Maudigadosa, Marianna Retreossel, Andre Lewine, Moisa. 527 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:20,720 Speaker 5: Rodan, Mihai Rode, Lusku, Ruslyn manicheirav Nicole Geran Manachi. 528 00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:28,680 Speaker 6: Of Bonafoi, Maria, Augias bone Foy, Estevan. 529 00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:38,360 Speaker 12: Simon Siegel, Linda Marsh Elaine Sabino Richard, Augustine, Elena Blasser, 530 00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:44,480 Speaker 12: Elena Chavez, Anna Mora One Mora Senior. 531 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:50,360 Speaker 5: Leon Olikovich, Christina Veradrice, Elvira, Olokovic. 532 00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:58,399 Speaker 1: Louis, Fernando Bart, Catalina Gomez, Valeria Bartkomez, Raymond Urjayes, Mercedes. 533 00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:08,480 Speaker 13: Jeyes, Maria Popa, Miguel Passo, Michel Passo, Graciela, Leon Gino Gatarossi, 534 00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:12,360 Speaker 13: Andrea Gattarossi, Graciela Gattarossi. 535 00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:22,560 Speaker 5: Andrea's Janet Suplus, Andres Gelfrascali, Deborah Bazdovin, Elon nabrev Estelle, Jadea, 536 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:27,000 Speaker 5: Cassandra Straden, Anastasia Gromova. 537 00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:33,680 Speaker 6: Sophia, Lope Morera, Louis pet Then Hill, Alexia, Maria Pettnhill, 538 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:40,000 Speaker 6: Lopez Morea and Sophia bet Then, Gil Lopez Morera, Luis 539 00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:43,720 Speaker 6: de Serro, be Then, Lope Morera. 540 00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:52,240 Speaker 8: And Emi, Lucia Guarda and Maarda, Fabia Cofia. 541 00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:59,880 Speaker 5: Nonie Gabriela Kamar, Miguel Kaufman, Judy Spiego, Frank Clemen, Nancy 542 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,400 Speaker 5: rus Levin, Jay Clemen. 543 00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:12,320 Speaker 1: Harry Rosenberg, Lisa Weiss, Benny Weiss, Arnold Dudkin Medium, Caspi Dodkin, 544 00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:18,239 Speaker 1: Ande Laveilaskeez, Julio Alaskez, Teresabilaskez. 545 00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:21,720 Speaker 6: Lazy, Vanessa, Lona Rialba. 546 00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:29,520 Speaker 5: Luis Sadovnik, Nicole Lingisfeld, Bonnie Epstein, David Epstein, Antonio Lossano. 547 00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:34,520 Speaker 8: Manuela fond One More Junior, who is my Era. 548 00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:37,280 Speaker 5: Ladis Losano. 549 00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,440 Speaker 1: Our piece was produced by Elisa Byena and edited by 550 00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:59,279 Speaker 1: Andrea Lopez Gruzsado, who was mixed by Julia Caruso. 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