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Speaker 3: This is the Players Lounge, broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys
Speaker 3: World headquarters at the Star. Now your hosts Barry Church,
Speaker 3: Heckma Harrison de Montrey Moore, and Newie Scruggs.
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Speaker 4: O T A season that stands for organized team activities,
Speaker 4: the volunteer porshit.
Speaker 1: This is the great Darren Hambrick. What said, what do
Speaker 1: voluntary mean?
Speaker 5: What do that mean?
Speaker 4: What do voluntary mean? Well, it's voluntary. They volunteer. You
Speaker 4: come on out here so they will have practice later
Speaker 4: on today Brian Schottenheimer will talk.
Speaker 6: There will be locker room, so I will dive into
Speaker 6: the open locker room today.
Speaker 4: Barry Church is here, the college graduate, fresh from a
Speaker 4: and m.
Speaker 5: Appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Here Harrison is in the building.
Speaker 4: Harrison got a degree long time ago, long time man
Speaker 4: lenen on to day.
Speaker 5: Hanging out. That's mister smooth guy out.
Speaker 1: There, blink. I love it.
Speaker 6: We didn't talk about this like that, but we're not
Speaker 6: fresh off now.
Speaker 5: But like Church a dreaming about there, dreaming about.
Speaker 6: It was a gift How was the wine? How was
Speaker 6: the blind awesome? So what did you try? Like, what's
Speaker 6: tell me? You got to go through the I'm not
Speaker 6: a big cab guy. For those who you know, drink wine,
Speaker 6: not on my I don't really like that. I think
Speaker 6: it's too heavy. So I'm more of a you know
Speaker 6: they called Marlowe or there was a lighter wines, fruitier wines.
Speaker 6: They they kind of drinking thing. But you know, it
Speaker 6: was fun. It was fun with a couple different winderies.
Speaker 6: Got to see my boy Lee out there as well.
Speaker 7: It had a couple of pinos on there to.
Speaker 1: Go over there near Clint Eastwood spot. Which one was
Speaker 1: Who's Clinton was? He's got He's got like a bad
Speaker 1: and breakfast over there. I didn't go to that one.
Speaker 1: Check it out? Oh what's that? Matter of fact? Your
Speaker 1: boy was out there, Dusty old Dusty Baker was out there.
Speaker 1: Dusty from out there. I didn't know he was from. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I seen anyone out there? Managed Giants SI, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we have some flip flops.
Speaker 5: He was chilling.
Speaker 4: Dusty Bake, former former major league manager, former you know,
Speaker 4: baseball player, Dusty Baker tells amazing stories He played with
Speaker 4: Hank Aaron when he hit the seven fifteen home run,
Speaker 4: and then of course he played on those great Dodgers
Speaker 4: teams out there won the eighty one World Series. You know,
Speaker 4: amazing guy. I was fortunate enough to be there for
Speaker 4: Dusty's last game as a manager. It was a game
Speaker 4: seven al see us between the Rangers and about Dusty.
Speaker 1: Tails of me.
Speaker 4: If you ever get just just storyteller, Bro, just sit down,
Speaker 4: actually take your phone, just man, talk to that.
Speaker 1: I wish I could. I said, what's something and gave
Speaker 1: me a little Hey, what's going on?
Speaker 6: I wish I could have talked on are you a
Speaker 6: seasonal guy with your wines? You like summertime you go
Speaker 6: more towards like right now, like winter, no matter winter,
Speaker 6: I stick right okay here, like right now laying that
Speaker 6: like fruity Rose is type Bro, Like a lot of
Speaker 6: people in the summertime switch to rose and then darks
Speaker 6: in the winter and like, yeah, man, I've already I
Speaker 6: tried to put you down with a few things.
Speaker 1: Man, happened when you left the Cowboys. You got that
Speaker 1: bad froom shot.
Speaker 7: That's what I'm saying. I remember back in the day,
Speaker 7: classic local type of guy, back in the night.
Speaker 1: Like Biggie small slide limit you.
Speaker 5: Know, you know better, you do better? Ain't right now?
Speaker 5: Money out live well that man.
Speaker 1: So when we last left this podcast the whole year,
Speaker 1: oh my god, scene of the crime spicy. Yeah.
Speaker 6: From now, from now on the rest of twenty five,
Speaker 6: you will be known as t w C.
Speaker 1: And that ain't time wer Cable ten win Church.
Speaker 6: Ten wins mab y'all say and listening him whens.
Speaker 7: It's not as far as that as you think. I'm
Speaker 7: just like you. Look at the schedule, the buzz.
Speaker 5: That's going on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, see here we go.
Speaker 7: Don't put it. Don't put me down for it. I said,
Speaker 7: it's not a drinking drinking the cool.
Speaker 1: That new batches out, baby, check let me check.
Speaker 5: Your I'm good, I'm good, I'm great.
Speaker 1: Church, I said, I said, batches out man.
Speaker 6: I'll let you know a training camp. So you at
Speaker 6: ten no, no, no, no, he's at ten. Yeah, my
Speaker 6: guy to making the playoffs as the seventh seed. I
Speaker 6: just need to know what heckman, now you know that,
Speaker 6: but are you at your Here's I've already said, and
Speaker 6: none of this can go into the book of integrity.
Speaker 5: We already people that just came out.
Speaker 7: Hold up, you know how twelve o'clock at night you're
Speaker 7: sitting there if you took a misstell philli.
Speaker 5: Call away like.
Speaker 6: See this is this is let me let me bring
Speaker 6: you up the speed on the player's lounge. And here's
Speaker 6: the deal.
Speaker 5: Here he go. He always tried to big doll. Somebody's see.
Speaker 5: That's that's what I'm not doing.
Speaker 6: But I'm what I'm I'm making sure that you don't
Speaker 6: ever get caught up in is the book of integrity.
Speaker 6: And this is all premature, right, And so we're talking
Speaker 6: about before the when we get the camp, that's when
Speaker 6: we go to the solid numbers.
Speaker 1: Don't get caught up on this because something could change.
Speaker 6: In between now and then. So this is all preliminary.
Speaker 6: Last year I called it ladd you did you did?
Speaker 6: You did tell you?
Speaker 1: This is this? So that possible. That is why I
Speaker 1: am eleven.
Speaker 5: Eleven. I'm telling you, y'all.
Speaker 8: I'm I'm telling you man, it's that's what that pruity
Speaker 8: wine he came back from.
Speaker 7: Definitely bring me some more wine. You gonna naple you
Speaker 7: with the inglewood. Yeah, smish my liquor. You ain't got
Speaker 7: no smish, told Josh.
Speaker 4: So heck, ma tray, Heckman is actually doing you a
Speaker 4: public service. He's trying to tell you what it is.
Speaker 1: Now. I'm not writing it down, but I know, I
Speaker 1: know this man.
Speaker 4: This man, Yes, he's he's going to stand on his business.
Speaker 4: He got the double nickel.
Speaker 1: Okay. I'm just trying to see are you all going
Speaker 1: to follow him? I've always been the leader back in
Speaker 1: the always no one who will because.
Speaker 5: We got that thing.
Speaker 1: It's usually the other way around.
Speaker 6: I'm trying to get passengers on this ship, and everybody
Speaker 6: standing there shot like aregation right off the plane.
Speaker 1: So far last year.
Speaker 4: Heck, but I see you trying to not go.
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 6: He hit what you call that? What you call that
Speaker 6: growth at coming, that's growth, right? I got the Linden.
Speaker 6: I didn't he just super Bowl? He did super Bowl?
Speaker 5: He did.
Speaker 1: Know you're just doing it, George Book, pull me one.
Speaker 1: Shame on you for me to.
Speaker 6: Say he did not coming off for twelve and five season. Yes,
Speaker 6: I did try to make it.
Speaker 1: Yes I did.
Speaker 5: Yes, coming off twelve.
Speaker 6: I want to coming off of twelve and five, Yes
Speaker 6: I did. I want to give heck my credit. He
Speaker 6: had half the Super Bowl straight. It was Kansas City
Speaker 6: who did come out to get that? Right, that's like
Speaker 6: saying that.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 1: Man, he had half.
Speaker 4: It was Kansas City and the Cowboys, and he had
Speaker 4: Kansas City winning. So but he had half the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4: So that's where he's coming back. He's coming back.
Speaker 7: He's trying to He threw the big target target Church.
Speaker 4: Church went doing that chum in the water and he
Speaker 4: was just looking at I just know.
Speaker 6: So Pro Football Focus O, my god, O PF.
Speaker 1: Get them right, you know, setting this up, setting it up.
Speaker 5: This must be nice, giving away. He's setting this table.
Speaker 4: So so Church has got ten wins and you talked
Speaker 4: about the schedule, so based off just just last year.
Speaker 4: You know, if we're thinking about division rankings, okay, who
Speaker 4: would we say would be the number one division coming
Speaker 4: into this season?
Speaker 1: NFC? Yeah and I got it, yeah this season?
Speaker 4: Okay, well, Pro Football Focus has the n f C
Speaker 4: East as number five?
Speaker 1: What number five?
Speaker 5: So one more time, you forgot about who do you.
Speaker 4: Think is the number one ranked division coming in this year?
Speaker 7: Number one, number one, number two West, number two, number two,
Speaker 7: number two, three playoff teams?
Speaker 1: Are you talking about number one? Number one in the
Speaker 1: n f C? North Lions, Vikings, Packers, Bears. They did
Speaker 1: have three as well.
Speaker 5: They had three, So.
Speaker 4: The number one and number two divisions are who the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Are facing this year. That's true. That's yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: that is the number one. That's what.
Speaker 5: Las Vegas and there hold on, hold on.
Speaker 1: They did make some changes.
Speaker 5: Back then.
Speaker 4: The Bears got a new coach and they're old coaches.
Speaker 4: The defensive here, just the fact.
Speaker 5: That boy knew he keep a little pocket rocket.
Speaker 6: By division Pro Football focus ring NFC North one, a
Speaker 6: f C West two, NFC East, I mean NFC West three,
Speaker 6: a f C North four, NFC East five.
Speaker 4: So that's their top five right there. And the Cowboys,
Speaker 4: I mean, you think about some of.
Speaker 1: These games here a lot.
Speaker 5: I know they got the Vikings though there.
Speaker 4: So, so the Vikings is an NBC game, the Eagles
Speaker 4: is an NBC game, and the other NBC game they've
Speaker 4: got on here is Green Bay. So a lot of
Speaker 4: the games are prime time. The Chiefs game that's Thanksgiving game,
Speaker 4: Commander's game that's the Christmas Day game. There's some interesting
Speaker 4: things that go back to the schedule too. Of so
Speaker 4: you get Philadelphia at home on November twenty third, but
Speaker 4: you turn around four days later you face the Kansas
Speaker 4: City Chiefs.
Speaker 1: That's two physical football games.
Speaker 4: Then after that you gotta go to Detroit at home
Speaker 4: against Minnesota on NBC.
Speaker 1: Then your next game is the Chargers at.
Speaker 4: Home, followed by four days going to Washington on Christmas Day.
Speaker 4: This is a really interesting schedule coming from November going.
Speaker 1: All the way to Christmas Day.
Speaker 4: It is hard, it's a challenge, but Church is still
Speaker 4: sitting here with the ten wins despite me just throwing
Speaker 4: these facts out to you.
Speaker 1: Gotta rack them up early. I gotta rack them up early.
Speaker 7: They got they got a tough partner, Like like you mentioned,
Speaker 7: they got a tough partner, but they gotta rack them
Speaker 7: up early. You know, you look at these early games
Speaker 7: in there. Yeah, Phitely gonna be tough, that's gonna be.
Speaker 7: But you got the Giants, you got the Bears in
Speaker 7: there as well. Green Bay are we you know he's
Speaker 7: been up and down playoffs exactly two years ago. Oh
Speaker 7: that's two years Jordan's been.
Speaker 5: He's been a roller up.
Speaker 1: Last year was here a good court?
Speaker 5: Was he was?
Speaker 1: He? He was alright?
Speaker 5: He was better than Jets.
Speaker 1: Know that.
Speaker 6: I take that. Jets, Panthers Panthers. Yeah, and command Commanders, right,
Speaker 6: and then Broncos.
Speaker 7: And then don't don't any of you take the Broncho quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: You know that sophomore hold on.
Speaker 7: Hold on, hold on, He's is gonna skip past that.
Speaker 7: Like the Broncos didn't make some noise this year they.
Speaker 5: Had that rookie quarterback.
Speaker 6: I mean, show that the commanders man, and so we're
Speaker 6: gonna go back to one that Gnco team.
Speaker 1: And then I got away quarterback.
Speaker 7: You're talking about that guy that Jerry says is the
Speaker 7: one that got away that's down there Courtland suddenly, so.
Speaker 6: Are you putting are you putting everything in the basket
Speaker 6: for Denver? For the Denver Broncos. That's I'm not saying that.
Speaker 6: But the way you just smoothed over that like it
Speaker 6: was butter, I'm talking we.
Speaker 1: Swooped over the New Jets. That was the problem.
Speaker 6: What about what about the Panther different that's completely different
Speaker 6: Panther game.
Speaker 1: Don't don't we jump right over the pan Panther game.
Speaker 7: Yeah, we're talking to about somebody that actually had steamlass.
Speaker 6: My whole thing is, even from the beginning of the season, preseason,
Speaker 6: is this team jeling for ten wins to happen. The
Speaker 6: jailing process is going to have to be crazy like
Speaker 6: the offense. Obviously, we're still in the same position were
Speaker 6: talking about Shoddy's offense. We don't know, we think a
Speaker 6: variation of what Mike ran. But then defensively is where
Speaker 6: my biggest questions are. And you're the person like you
Speaker 6: played for you have the answers on what his defense
Speaker 6: could possibly be.
Speaker 1: That's gonna be here with this, So what excuse me?
Speaker 5: He loves he loves us more than he loves them.
Speaker 6: So so you should probably whatever you got on your
Speaker 6: should whatever you got on your shoulder right now taking it,
Speaker 6: put it down because I had no idea that you
Speaker 6: played for evil flu So.
Speaker 1: Ye, so you tell me defense. So what kind of
Speaker 1: defense is? You know?
Speaker 7: And tell us is the fact guy. You're the you're
Speaker 7: the passion in it guy. So I'm gonna bring some
Speaker 7: facts with you. Yes, I am here and everybody knows that.
Speaker 7: And he was off or listen that he loves the
Speaker 7: D line. It is predicated on the D line, that front,
Speaker 7: that front seven.
Speaker 6: You know you play, okay, So what you to do
Speaker 6: is write down how many defensive coordinators you played for?
Speaker 6: So I could preface my statements before you know that
Speaker 6: I don't want to ever be out of bound z
Speaker 6: On he include.
Speaker 7: You that when you play twelve years professional football, I'm
Speaker 7: trying to have some people up in like I like that.
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, though, I got my bulletproof vests.
Speaker 1: I'm good given the shack. Sorry, was it familiar with
Speaker 1: your game?
Speaker 7: I think I'm like fifty seven bulletproof vests. Baby, it
Speaker 7: doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 6: So, Ibra defense, you gotta have a good front seven.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 6: And so with the moves that were made in the
Speaker 6: off season, how comfortable are you with him developing this defense?
Speaker 6: Because we saw what Zimmer had last year, which was
Speaker 6: limited limited to three instead of miss the unlimited. We
Speaker 6: got three tools, that's it. So what is Evira Flus
Speaker 6: walk into with this defense? That's gonna get you to
Speaker 6: little a little.
Speaker 1: Worries because that that second level, that linebacking corps, we
Speaker 1: don't know. We don't know right now.
Speaker 6: And when you look at it, Ebra Flu's defense from
Speaker 6: when he was in Dallas he had you know, the
Speaker 6: Shawn Lee's and then Chicago he was early with Rokwan
Speaker 6: Smith and Indianapolis he had he always had those guys
Speaker 6: at quarterback.
Speaker 1: Yes, I heard that quarterback on that second level.
Speaker 6: That's like, okay, I'm gonna get the D line right secondary,
Speaker 6: y'all just fit where y'all need y'all had. He had
Speaker 6: erasers if somebody messed up on the defensive line, he
Speaker 6: had linebackers that were able to erase that.
Speaker 1: Here.
Speaker 7: You know, I'm not so sure yet. You know, we
Speaker 7: got injuries with the over shown. You got young guys
Speaker 7: in there, so it's gonna be tough. But I still
Speaker 7: got a maintain leans though. All right, he still got
Speaker 7: a mantain when we come back, come on down.
Speaker 1: Got a lot a lot that need of the I'm
Speaker 1: just trying to.
Speaker 7: Is he going to come through with the next year.
Speaker 7: That's the different thing needs and wants. Guds and butters. Baby,
Speaker 7: get that running.
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Speaker 1: November. One of my doves Monday Night. That's one of
Speaker 1: my tens to keep on acting like Arizona can't do
Speaker 1: that work. But they've done that. We've got that work
Speaker 1: in Arizona.
Speaker 4: Could you say, Johnny, when seventeen seventeen, twenty seventeen, Andy
Speaker 4: not beating the Arizona.
Speaker 6: Answer, that's a long time. Is it's a long Time's
Speaker 6: a tough schedule. Listen back to back losses, Hey, these
Speaker 6: come three losses in a row. It starts in November,
Speaker 6: and where you're counting is from November all the way down.
Speaker 1: I mean you started November twenty third.
Speaker 7: Yeah, get them Offy Beery. Y'all know what it is.
Speaker 7: They bring in the fat hand filling show emotion.
Speaker 6: So when we talk about ten eleven, that means you
Speaker 6: need to have an extraordinary amount of uh things go correct,
Speaker 6: Because ten wins in this league, that's hard.
Speaker 1: It's hard to do. Who is the one player you
Speaker 1: need to see something from this year, especially if you're
Speaker 1: trying to get to ten wins? Ten wins? Right, who's
Speaker 1: one guy I got.
Speaker 6: If you don't mind my brother, I got two seed
Speaker 6: and I'm going on the office side of the football
Speaker 6: because I feel like that's gonna have to be the
Speaker 6: catalyst for this team this year. Is the offense is
Speaker 6: gonna have to do some big things, especially with how
Speaker 6: young the defense is, some guys in the secondary coming
Speaker 6: off injury. So my two guys that are going to
Speaker 6: have to perform at a high level, I believe one is,
Speaker 6: of course, Dak Prescott. I mean he's got to go
Speaker 6: out there. He's the quarterback, the most important piece of
Speaker 6: the puzzle. All Right, you got George Pickens out there,
Speaker 6: he got Seed, Lamb. You're gonna have to figure out
Speaker 6: a way to orchestrate and get those guys the ball
Speaker 6: and get as much as you can out of this offense.
Speaker 6: But also Jake Ferguson, I feel like he's gonna have
Speaker 6: to his game up as well.
Speaker 7: He's gonna have because when you look at it, when
Speaker 7: you look at it, y'all laughed at when you look
Speaker 7: at it, and his team was balling offensively.
Speaker 1: And Jake ferg had what ten touchdowns? He was a
Speaker 1: red zone animal.
Speaker 6: And this was one of the best offenses international Football
Speaker 6: League when you had those two wide receivers on the
Speaker 6: house side and the tight end being able to work
Speaker 6: in the middle.
Speaker 1: What happened to that last year? He did not.
Speaker 7: He wasn't able to work right and all you had
Speaker 7: was Ceede Lamb and the babies. So if you get
Speaker 7: a guy and Jake Ferguson, we know George Picktt's gonna
Speaker 7: want the ball out there, but if ferd can work
Speaker 7: on these linebacker he's gonna get a lot of one
Speaker 7: on ones with linebackers and safeties. If he can take
Speaker 7: advantage of that getting those seams, I'm telling you're gonna
Speaker 7: have a second guy. It was Dak and then Jake
Speaker 7: back and Ja Py Attention, man, I am loosen.
Speaker 6: I'm just saying, I just I just felt like I
Speaker 6: didn't know you was gonna pick Dak as the guy
Speaker 6: that you wanted, just coming off of the injury and
Speaker 6: coming off of the I mean he got.
Speaker 5: I mean, he gotta do it.
Speaker 7: I respect it, though I respect the first one, the
Speaker 7: Ferguson one, I respect it more now that you explained it.
Speaker 7: But off guard man what he said, I'm gonna put
Speaker 7: my foot in this thing. I need to see something
Speaker 7: from thirteen George Pickens and oh, we know what we're
Speaker 7: gonna get with CD Lamb. We know that Dak is
Speaker 7: gonna be He's gonna have that moment to where he's
Speaker 7: just gonna be cooking. But then there's gonna be that
Speaker 7: moment where you're looking at Dak like, oh, you say, hey,
Speaker 7: you can't do it because he doesn't have the weapons. Well,
Speaker 7: now that he has the weapons, I feel like it's
Speaker 7: gonna this offense is gonna be predicated.
Speaker 5: Off of George, Like, yes, we know who our stars
Speaker 5: are going to be.
Speaker 7: But if he can come in and be not robbing,
Speaker 7: but I'm talking about being night wing, that evolved version
Speaker 7: of him, Oh you might have something special over there.
Speaker 7: And when that office is really cooking, You had the
Speaker 7: das Bryns, you had a teadub that was quote unquote
Speaker 7: people wasn't expecting that stuff to right there behind him.
Speaker 7: You had that great number two. So I'm gonna challenge
Speaker 7: him and I need to see something from him. And
Speaker 7: if he's good, you can make anything happen with that
Speaker 7: running back court back there, and then that's naturally gonna
Speaker 7: make Dak evolve into the guy that everybody is saying
Speaker 7: that he's gonna to be. And then my second guy
Speaker 7: is gonna be oh uh osa is gonna be the
Speaker 7: guys that you need to see something from him. I
Speaker 7: think back in my time when I was playing here
Speaker 7: in ibra Flus's defense while you're pointing at me, you
Speaker 7: had a guy like Tyrone Crawford that was in there
Speaker 7: and that held it down, like Marcus Lawrence was the name,
Speaker 7: and people see Marcus Lawrence was the guy, and people said, oh,
Speaker 7: he's the name and he's the rock rock guy. You're
Speaker 7: gonna have that in Michael Parson. But Tyron Carford did
Speaker 7: not get the credit that he did. He was the
Speaker 7: most selfless player. But he can play every position on
Speaker 7: that and he knew what d law was good at
Speaker 7: and he told him what to do. But also he
Speaker 7: was controlling the other side over there. D Moore, you
Speaker 7: do this over here, you do that, You're gonna have
Speaker 7: a young guy that's coming over there, second round, pick
Speaker 7: all over there. That's gonna need somebody to lead. And
Speaker 7: if you can have Michael doing what he did, living
Speaker 7: up to that money, also living up to that money
Speaker 7: that he's getting paid, that's what's gonna allow those linebackers.
Speaker 7: We don't need a ruck corn Smith, you don't need
Speaker 7: those big name guy. But in this defense, when you
Speaker 7: caused that penetration, it starts with those front fourd You'll
Speaker 7: turn somebody into nobody from there. So I'm gonna challenge him,
Speaker 7: and that's where I need to see something from for
Speaker 7: these guys to take that next step on.
Speaker 6: Y'all took my guys, but it's okay, gonna I'm gonna go.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna go Bbie in the middle my email. And
Speaker 6: the reason I say that is because of the guy
Speaker 6: that you just mentioned. Dak has to be better, and
Speaker 6: I think it starts in the middle of this offensive line.
Speaker 6: Dak had a lot of pressure sitting in his lap.
Speaker 6: You had a guy that was coming in that was
Speaker 6: all American at guard at Kansas State that switched positions
Speaker 6: to center, and now he's learning on the fly and
Speaker 6: there's a ton of pressure on him. Dak Prescott in
Speaker 6: the middle of the field and also being attacked left tackle.
Speaker 6: I mean without being said, And the thing is, you
Speaker 6: know that he has to be better, But I think
Speaker 6: that the center position can be one, especially with your
Speaker 6: rookie that can absolutely help this guy and Tyler Smith
Speaker 6: to the left of it. You just have to be better,
Speaker 6: especially for this running game to flourish. Also, I'm gonna
Speaker 6: on the other side to the defense. Time proof and
Speaker 6: consistency doesn't give me anything to trust this guy. But
Speaker 6: I'm telling you, Manzi has to be better.
Speaker 1: He just has to.
Speaker 6: He has to be better in the middle of this
Speaker 6: defense if Ebon Flus is gonna have any success showing
Speaker 6: up the defensive line, as you guys talked about it,
Speaker 6: but in the middle of this defense is where the
Speaker 6: Cowboys have been weakest for so long and being pushed around.
Speaker 6: I don't get Solomon Thomas, whatever he has in the
Speaker 6: gas tank. Obviously he looks good out on the field,
Speaker 6: but if you don't have a guy in the middle
Speaker 6: of this defense that can control the line of scrimmage,
Speaker 6: you're still going to be dealing with the same thing.
Speaker 6: God's on skates and running back fifteen yards up the field.
Speaker 5: You play with Solomon yep, I was like.
Speaker 1: I was sing Tarzan play like or was he just like?
Speaker 5: No, salid Is.
Speaker 7: Said, that's what we call he wasn't. He wasn't the
Speaker 7: targe in that play like Jane Solid Salem went, I
Speaker 7: don't know, I never played with it. No, Solomon Solomon
Speaker 7: was a dog like. He is a true competitor, and
Speaker 7: I think he's one of those people. You know how
Speaker 7: some guys like when they get around those other players,
Speaker 7: like they naturally elevate, like you had no choice but
Speaker 7: to be a dog like he.
Speaker 5: People thought he was going to be this guy. But
Speaker 5: when he became he wasn't batman.
Speaker 7: He was robbing and once he had the forest Buckner
Speaker 7: over there, who Eric Arnstead that was in there, like
Speaker 7: those dogs around him, it naturally made him elevate his game.
Speaker 5: He was naturally strong, He was a competitor. He didn't
Speaker 5: shy away from hidding it.
Speaker 7: So the only thing that if I had to be
Speaker 7: very critical of his game is just him being undersized.
Speaker 5: That is the only thing.
Speaker 7: But if he gets a little rocks in his pocket,
Speaker 7: you're talking about phenomenal get off striking ability is going
Speaker 7: to be there. Hand placement is going to be there now,
Speaker 7: it's just at the point of contact where you're going
Speaker 7: to go.
Speaker 6: Let me ask you, this is fast a defensive lineman
Speaker 6: that has gotten to ten years in his career. What
Speaker 6: changes about a guy like that or when at that
Speaker 6: point in your career where it's like, Okay, I can't
Speaker 6: rely on some of my God given abilities anymore because
Speaker 6: you know, obviously guys are younger and just as strong.
Speaker 5: I would say for.
Speaker 7: Me, it would be becoming more of a student game.
Speaker 7: Later in my career it was like, okay, yes, I
Speaker 7: got the fastest get off. I helped that on to that,
Speaker 7: but it was like what am I going to do
Speaker 7: after that? I got to start getting back to the basis,
Speaker 7: getting my handwork right, figuring out those little nuanced and
Speaker 7: just like getting technically sound Like once you start getting
Speaker 7: to the end of your career, you know, like hey,
Speaker 7: I've been in here for a while, Like hey, I'm
Speaker 7: not the starter or this and that, Like what do
Speaker 7: I got?
Speaker 9: This?
Speaker 5: My a one in the hole?
Speaker 7: And then from there can I get me a counter
Speaker 7: that comes off of that? So you become a technician
Speaker 7: of the game. And I think Sally going back to him.
Speaker 7: That is his big His best attribute is he is
Speaker 7: one of the smartest i Q football IQ persons that
Speaker 7: I know.
Speaker 5: So, Tarzan, we didn't see we just seen a few
Speaker 5: of those. You brought me back the flashback.
Speaker 1: Tell you what, man, a lot of goodness.
Speaker 4: If you cannot have solid play at left tackle in
Speaker 4: the National Football League, good luck trying to win ten
Speaker 4: games five games.
Speaker 1: It's hard. It's hard.
Speaker 4: And the Cowboys do not have a left tackle right
Speaker 4: now that we could say we trust, trust, which means time,
Speaker 4: proof and consistency.
Speaker 6: There's nobody at the left tackle right now. One of
Speaker 6: the things I'll be interested today and I want to
Speaker 6: ask Brian Schottenheimer is where do you where's your comfort.
Speaker 4: Level with the left tackle? What's going on? Obviously got
Speaker 4: Tyler Geiitten who you took last year?
Speaker 6: We said before that, guys, you know that first second
Speaker 6: year is the toughest adjustment you make, and that's where
Speaker 6: you can't get to make the most improvement.
Speaker 1: So where is he? Where's Austin Richards And what is
Speaker 1: that room.
Speaker 6: Looking like when we talk about the left tackle for
Speaker 6: the Dallas Cowboys, Because if that's not fixed, Dak Prescott
Speaker 6: can't go do his thing.
Speaker 1: George Pickens won't be able to do football the way
Speaker 1: he wants to.
Speaker 4: I mean, there's so many things have to happen at
Speaker 4: the left tackle position, and then you start thinking about, oh,
Speaker 4: here the Eagles on the schedule, Oh here, the Lions,
Speaker 4: you know, here, the Chargers, here, the Commanders. I mean,
Speaker 4: you know there's some teams right here. Who got some
Speaker 4: folks on defense?
Speaker 5: I heard was interior monsters. I'm the juggernaut that goes
Speaker 5: back to your boy.
Speaker 1: So we start talking to the giants.
Speaker 4: So you start talking about this football team, if if that,
Speaker 4: if it's lookout Dak, it's a problem.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be issue. It's a problem.
Speaker 4: And if your left tackle still needs help, then if
Speaker 4: your left tackles need help, if somebody's got to stay
Speaker 4: in the chip here, then okay, that's one less guy
Speaker 4: is going to be out there in a route. So
Speaker 4: to me, a whole lot of this is going to
Speaker 4: be predicated on what happens at the left tackle position.
Speaker 4: So I need to see something from Tyler Geting. And
Speaker 4: if Tyler Goyton is not it, then I need to
Speaker 4: see also Richard step up here and take the position because.
Speaker 1: To me, if they can't get that right, so much
Speaker 1: of what you want to do is going to be problematic.
Speaker 1: I wonder if it's gonna be a competition or if
Speaker 1: it's going to be the first round. But that's what
Speaker 1: you know, how it go, Liken, get.
Speaker 5: That first round is gonna get a little bit of leeway.
Speaker 7: Yeah, but when that pressure is on you, especially for
Speaker 7: a new head coach, like you ain't not granted this
Speaker 7: is one of those organizations to where it's like, hey,
Speaker 7: you got to listen to.
Speaker 5: All the rules and all the facts.
Speaker 7: But there are certain organizations that are first year that
Speaker 7: are trying to come in and you're trying to win,
Speaker 7: Like yeah, like if you didn't show that, if you
Speaker 7: didn't show you was a lockdown first round of that
Speaker 7: next year. Especially nowadays, in these last few years, it's
Speaker 7: not the early two thousands when we was playing where
Speaker 7: you said first rounded, you get three years to try
Speaker 7: what we find it far more often now that a
Speaker 7: lot of first rounders, fifty year options are not being
Speaker 7: picked up and they're talking about this in their second year,
Speaker 7: the third year, like don't even think about the fifth year. Oh,
Speaker 7: we're gonna let them test free agency, So I don't
Speaker 7: think that loyalty is going to be there. And then
Speaker 7: on top of that, with the Cowboys having that demand
Speaker 7: on theirself, you know, you want to prove that Dak
Speaker 7: Prescott is your guy, paying him that money, like paying
Speaker 7: all these people up and getting these people right like
Speaker 7: the time is now for Michael Parsons, all these people.
Speaker 7: You got people coming up. You have to win right now.
Speaker 7: So if you going there with that philosophy, this is
Speaker 7: not a rebuilding year. What'd you say, last nail after
Speaker 7: your rebuilding year, that's where you're supposed to that second
Speaker 7: year you're supposed to make that jump.
Speaker 5: Well, to make that jump, you have to put that
Speaker 5: pressure competition.
Speaker 6: What I've loved about the Brian Schottenheimer press conferences is
Speaker 6: when he talks about competition and setting up competition at
Speaker 6: every position. There's no giving and you guys know better
Speaker 6: than obviously the first round draft picks will get the
Speaker 6: lion's share of the first team reps. But at the
Speaker 6: same time, going back to the left tackle, guys like
Speaker 6: Austin Richards, if they make the step and everybody that's
Speaker 6: out there training camp can see like wait a minute,
Speaker 6: you know this is the guy for the job. Will
Speaker 6: Brian Schottenheimer do what's right for the team and say,
Speaker 6: I don't care where you got picked, I don't care
Speaker 6: what your pay grade is. You're hurting this team and
Speaker 6: we can't run you out there if we know you're
Speaker 6: the weakest link on this offensive line.
Speaker 7: And I'm gonna add in with that with the people
Speaker 7: that I'm talking to that's been around him in Seattle,
Speaker 7: they said that he's always had that competitive mindset, the
Speaker 7: people that's been here, Like, I'm interested to see if
Speaker 7: there my sources are going to prove me right with
Speaker 7: saying that he has that Seattle mindset he's learned from
Speaker 7: coach Carroll, who said, hey, competition breathes excellency, Like is
Speaker 7: he going to bring that in there, like you're see
Speaker 7: him with the ping pong table and bringing those things
Speaker 7: in like everything, Like I'm telling y'all like it's a
Speaker 7: method to the madness, Like there's gonna be competition, like
Speaker 7: who can eat their food? The fact, who can do this?
Speaker 7: Like who's stepped in there that Friday competition? And I
Speaker 7: want to know if he's going to make that correlation
Speaker 7: onto the field. And I'm hoping that he does and
Speaker 7: if he does, you're gonna see a new energy to
Speaker 7: where it's like, yo, I ain't trying to do what
Speaker 7: everybody else did here. I'm not trying to take on
Speaker 7: somebody else's scheme. And this is where all the answers
Speaker 7: are going to be answering in the training camp. Are
Speaker 7: you implementing the old Mike McCarthy's scheme or are you
Speaker 7: really doing your own thing? And if he's doing his
Speaker 7: own thing, I guarantee you he's not about to sit
Speaker 7: there and live by a first round pick not his
Speaker 7: and it ain't his first round pick. Remember that it's
Speaker 7: not his first round pick.
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