1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: As California is ravaged by drought, it pushes residents into 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 1: conflict with companies. 3 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:08,560 Speaker 2: What happens when there's not enough water to go around? 4 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 3: From Bloomberg News and iHeartRadio, it's the big take. I'm 5 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 3: West Casova today. California's underground water is in danger of 6 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 3: being drained away. The recent epic rainfalls in California have 7 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 3: helped to green up parch lawns and dusty landscapes in 8 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 3: areas hard hit by drought, but beneath the ground, it's 9 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 3: a much different story. The state's aquifers that feed farms 10 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 3: and provide water for homes, which are already depleted, are 11 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 3: now at risk of being tapped out, in part by 12 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 3: giant commercial farms growing lucrative cash crops. 13 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 4: Because the ground has been depleted, they're having to build 14 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 4: these massive wells that plunge one thousand feet or deeper 15 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 4: into the deeper aquifer in order to find the resource 16 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 4: that they need to water these crops during drought periods. 17 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 3: That's reporter Mark cheddi act He and Bloomberg's Peter Waldman 18 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,839 Speaker 3: and Sinduja Runkarajin are here to tell us about their 19 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 3: investigation of how some companies are turning California's increasingly scarce 20 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 3: water into enormous profits, leaving many people in the state 21 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 3: with less to drink. Peter, We've seen record floods in California. 22 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:39,320 Speaker 3: The places inundated with water after so many years of drought. 23 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 3: And that's a good thing, right. 24 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 5: Absolutely, Rainfall, precipitation, snow in the mountains is what California 25 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 5: relies on for water, both in the big cities and 26 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 5: especially the central Valley where the farms are. The issue 27 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 5: is it can be a little deceiving. Scientists say that 28 00:01:56,320 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 5: we're in a mega drought period. Obviously, this year is exceptional, 29 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 5: but since about the year two thousand, all of the 30 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 5: West has had a majority of sub average years of precipitation. 31 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 5: In California, there have been maybe half a dozen good 32 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:19,239 Speaker 5: years in that twenty three year time span. It's problematic 33 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 5: in the sense that people tend to relax and they 34 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 5: don't focus on the underlying issues, which are quite literal 35 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 5: in this case, as we move into groundwater, and. 36 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:31,639 Speaker 4: I think that the idea is that even though we've 37 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 4: had a record wet winter here in California, what's been 38 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 4: happening is that underneath the surface, our aquifers, our groundwater 39 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 4: has been severely depleted for decades or actually up to 40 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 4: a century. It will take almost just as long to 41 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 4: refill these aquifers, this groundwater, years, decades perhaps to replenish 42 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:57,639 Speaker 4: that resource. 43 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 6: So you know, one great wet win isn't gonna do 44 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 6: the trick. 45 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 1: Some of that harm is also irrepeatable. Just because it 46 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:10,519 Speaker 1: rains more, it doesn't mean that harm is repaired. So 47 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: that's another component to the story, is that some of 48 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 1: the harm has already been caused and rain cannot repair 49 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: that harm. 50 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 3: And as you write in your stories, Sinduja, this drought 51 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 3: problem that's happening underground, that these aquifers and wells have 52 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 3: dried up over many years a long way away from 53 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 3: being filled, is being exacerbated by some pretty big problems 54 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 3: with farming. 55 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: Yes, there's been an explosion of permanent crops in Central Valley, 56 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: and this has been happening for decades. Perman crops require 57 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: more water, and they require water all around. And therefore, 58 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: like whether it's a drought period or whether it's a 59 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: period when you have wet winters, you have to constantly 60 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: keep watering them. And therefore, you know, in a place 61 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: where you don't have a lot of sourface water coming in. 62 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: You rely on groundwater, and so you have these really 63 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: deep wells that have to constantly keep supplying water to them. 64 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 3: Peter, what are these permanent crops and why have they 65 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 3: become such a big problem. 66 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 5: Permanent crops, in some respects are cash crops, at least 67 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 5: in the framework of our article, in the sense that 68 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 5: they exploded because our farmers in California and then investors 69 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 5: who were lured in by the profit potential, could grow 70 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 5: almonds and pistachios and wine grapes and some stone fruits, 71 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 5: some citrus, things that grow on trees which require a 72 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 5: good deal of financial investment, not just for the land 73 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 5: and even not just for the water, but for the 74 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 5: saplings and for the labor, and then take anywhere from 75 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 5: ten to thirty years to really bear out. You get 76 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:02,919 Speaker 5: these things going, they produce fruit or nuts year after year, 77 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 5: and then you can sell them. And in the case 78 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 5: of almonds, which was really the prototype permanent crop that 79 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 5: took off, California was able to really capture the global market. 80 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 5: Eighty percent of the world's almond production is from California, 81 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 5: and sixty percent of that is exported, So you could 82 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 5: see the opportunity there for investors who say, oh wow, 83 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 5: we get these trees up and going, we will make 84 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 5: a lot of money year after year on the sale 85 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 5: of the crop itself, especially to places like Japan and China, 86 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 5: other parts of Asia and in Europe, and the land 87 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 5: will appreciate at the same time. And you can see 88 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 5: why the returns were quite attractive, and it's generally considered 89 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 5: a quite stable investment. It counter cyclical at times. So 90 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 5: for example, when the investments really took off after the 91 00:05:55,640 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 5: Great Recession, investors had had a terrible experience with land 92 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 5: in stock values plummeting, but farmland was holding its value, 93 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 5: in fact increasing because food cultivation was viewed as a 94 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 5: long term stable bit Peter. 95 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 4: There's also you know this concept now that water managers 96 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:17,479 Speaker 4: talk about in California, which is what's called the hardening 97 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 4: of the water demand, meaning that the demand for water 98 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 4: in the state, especially for agriculture, is pretty constant and steady. 99 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 4: It is not a flexible like it would be if 100 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:32,039 Speaker 4: we had mostly like row crops, and I think that 101 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 4: has become a challenge as well for the state to 102 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 4: manage what's happening now is over time, the groundwater has 103 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 4: been depleted, the aquifer has been lowered, So in order 104 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 4: to get at this groundwater during drought periods when surface 105 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 4: water in the state isn't available or is very limited to, 106 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:53,039 Speaker 4: what these big agricultural users have to do is drill 107 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 4: these deeper wells to access the lowering water table. And 108 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 4: when twenty thirty, even forty years go, wells could be 109 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 4: drilled one hundred two hundred feet deep into the ground 110 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 4: to find water from these aquifers. Now, because the groundwater 111 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 4: has been depleted, they're having to build these massive wells 112 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 4: that plunge one thousand feet or deeper into the deeper 113 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 4: aquifer in order to find the resource that they need 114 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 4: to water these crops during drought periods. 115 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 1: California has experienced the mega drought that we're going through. 116 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: It's the driest it's been in twelve hundred years, and 117 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: the overall water table has dropped two hundred feet and 118 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: that's left a lot of wells going dry. And in 119 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two we've had like fifteen hundred wells that 120 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: have gone dry. And when you have the resources to 121 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: drill deep, then you have the insurance to tap into 122 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: water even when there's a drought. 123 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 3: But then that takes a toll. What is the effect 124 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 3: of these wells going dry across the state just on 125 00:07:57,800 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 3: homes and smaller firms. 126 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 4: Obviously, it takes a tremendous toll. It was near record 127 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 4: levels last year during the drought, and as our story 128 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 4: points out, they're basically either having to get bottled water 129 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 4: shipped in or they're having to use water that is 130 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 4: sometimes unsafe or tainted, ironically, farming communities up and down 131 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 4: the Central Valley. The state auditor found that more than 132 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 4: one million Californians don't have access to reliable drinking water. 133 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 4: This is in the fourth largest economy in the world. 134 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 4: Kind of speaks to the disparity we're looking at here 135 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 4: where these giant wells are pumping out thousands of gallons 136 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:40,559 Speaker 4: of water a day, and then you have these communities 137 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 4: where they can't get one drop of clean, reliable water. 138 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 5: And let me paint that picture in the context of 139 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 5: supporting this story. The first time I went to the 140 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 5: Central Valley to start talking to people about the drought 141 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 5: was last summer, and I met a water manager in 142 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 5: a very small town. It's a really farm worker camp 143 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 5: that now has stucco houses on it called Woodville, and 144 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 5: the water manager's name there is Ralph Gucerez, and we 145 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 5: were talking about the proliferation, and Ralph at first was saying, well, 146 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 5: I really think it's the dairies. The dairies are big 147 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 5: water consumers. We all know it takes a lot of 148 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 5: water for a cow to produce milk. So we went 149 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 5: driving in his pickup and it became very clear that 150 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:32,679 Speaker 5: it had changed since the last time Ralph had given 151 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 5: this a lot of thought. He said, these lands were 152 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 5: now covered with thickets thick as you could imagine, lined 153 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 5: in perfect rows with drip irrigation literally into the horizon. 154 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 5: It felt like of nut trees. And that's where this 155 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 5: extraordinary encapsulation of our story really came out, which was 156 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 5: this really is deeper pockets, deeper wells. That the folks 157 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 5: who we were planting out there were clearly very wealthy. 158 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 5: They could afford this land, They could buy out the dairies, 159 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 5: and they could wait on these nut trees to grow 160 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 5: big enough to yield enough to pay their debts and 161 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 5: return money to their investors. 162 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:17,959 Speaker 1: Peter kind of had an inklink that there were all 163 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: these big investors, you know from Wall Street, coming to 164 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: these really small towns in Central Valley and buying up 165 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 1: land and drilling wells and changing things there to own water, 166 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 1: to turn things into profit. But I think we didn't 167 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 1: know the scale of this. We went to the California 168 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 1: Department of Water Resources and we asked them for all 169 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: of the wells that have been dug by everybody, and 170 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: we decided to look at some of the deepest wells. 171 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: One in six of these deepest wells were drilled by 172 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:54,599 Speaker 1: institutional investors. 173 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 4: Since twenty ten, six major institutional investors have QUAE drew 174 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 4: their farmland in California to almost one hundred and twenty 175 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 4: thousand acres in total, which is basically the equivalent to 176 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 4: a third of all the cropland in the state of Connecticut. 177 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 3: After the break, Just how much water are these mega 178 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 3: wells pulling out of the ground mark For people who 179 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 3: may not be as familiar with institutional investment firms, what 180 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 3: exactly are they who invests in them and where does 181 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 3: that money go? 182 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 4: UBS is the world's largest bank, John Hancock, which is 183 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 4: owned by Manu Life, which is the Canadian investment bank. 184 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 4: They actually many times manage money for state pension funds 185 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 4: like the state of Florida or the state of Texas, 186 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 4: or police pension fund in New Mexico, and so they're 187 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 4: basically taking that pension fund money and investing it in 188 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 4: farmland in California and managing it to get stable, generous 189 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 4: returns out of that investment. 190 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 3: Mark. When you went to these companies and asked about 191 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 3: how much water these farms take and the deep wells 192 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 3: they need to dig, what did they say? 193 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:16,559 Speaker 6: They had a number of responses. 194 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 4: I mean, essentially, what they said is that they are 195 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 4: trying to be good stewards of the land, and that 196 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 4: they've installed irrigation systems that are like drip irrigation, which 197 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 4: is a lot more water efficient, to reduce the amount 198 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:32,680 Speaker 4: of water used. They also referred to the recent rains 199 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 4: and floods, saying that they were using that water to 200 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:38,839 Speaker 4: recharge the groundwater that had been depleted, and that they 201 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 4: have been trying to manage these lands as sustainably as 202 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 4: they see fit. Tiaa told us that in terms of 203 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:49,559 Speaker 4: their water use near the Woodville area farm that it 204 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 4: had become far more efficient. They'd replaced fourteen older wells 205 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 4: with five new ones and installed drip irrigation systems and 206 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 4: had followed some land. And they also say that they've 207 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 4: replenished more water than they've taken out since twenty nineteen. 208 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 4: A lot of that water that they've used to recharge 209 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:11,079 Speaker 4: the aquifer was collected during. 210 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 6: The most recent rains. 211 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:16,439 Speaker 4: Hancock has also said that what they're doing is recharging 212 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 4: the aquifer with access surface water and groundwater when then 213 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 4: get their hands on it. They're also following land and 214 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 4: installing more efficient irrigation systems. PSP, which had drilled some 215 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 4: wells near the California aquifers, said that they were abiding 216 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 4: by new groundwater management regulations which restrict the amount of 217 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 4: water they can pull out of the aquifer, and have 218 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 4: also drilled wells in areas that were deemed basically okay 219 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 4: by local authorities. 220 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 1: We realized that the wells have been getting deeper and 221 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 1: deeper in general. But here are these institutional investors who've 222 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 1: drilled wells that were at least twice as deep as 223 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 1: all the other agricultural wells, and they're wider in diameter, 224 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 1: and they're capable of yielding more groundwater than everybody else 225 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 1: around them. 226 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 3: Peter, these big deep wells that Sinduja describes how much 227 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 3: water are they pulling. 228 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 5: It's not uncommon to find the large investors and the 229 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 5: large agribusiness companies, the big growers with wells that can 230 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 5: extract as much as thirty five hundred gallons per minute 231 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 5: from the deep aquifer. 232 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 3: One side effect of so many wells being dug is 233 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 3: something called subsidence. 234 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 2: For more than a century, farmers have been pumping water 235 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 2: out of the ground so much so the land around 236 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 2: here is slowly sinking, a process known as subsidence. In 237 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 2: less than one hundred years, it's dropped eight and a half. 238 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 3: Meters Sinduja, can you explain how this happens. 239 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: Subsidence is one of the things that's happening because of 240 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 1: not just deep wells, but prolific well pumping which has 241 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: happened during this drought period. And the harm caused by 242 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: s silence is irreparable. Just because we have a good 243 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: wet year, subsidence won't go away. And the soil, particularly clay, 244 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: which is amply present in parts of Central Value that 245 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: we write about, it starts compacting and it's capable of 246 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 1: storing less and less water. And that's been happening pretty rapidly. 247 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 4: Subsidence has become an issue for the state because it's 248 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 4: actually damaging critical infrastructure, such as the California Aqueduct, which 249 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 4: is the just main water artery that delivers snow melt 250 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 4: from the Sierras down to Los Angeles through this four 251 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 4: hundred mile concrete canal. The state that actually found that 252 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 4: parts of that concrete aqueduct had sunk up to three 253 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 4: feet over a three year period during the most recent drought. 254 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 6: Basically has caused almost. 255 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 4: A billion dollars in damage that will need to be repaired. 256 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 3: When we come back. What happens when deep commercial wells 257 00:15:56,520 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 3: drain the shallower wells that homes and community these depend on. 258 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 7: We did run out completely. We had no water for 259 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 7: a few days, and it was so hard you either 260 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 7: ran down upon it and took a shower and went 261 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 7: to someone's. 262 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 6: House, or you. 263 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 7: Just went and bottled water and did sponge bath. 264 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 3: That's Shelley Easton. She's a resident of Maderira, California, and 265 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 3: she spoke to Bloomberg quick take mark as we heard 266 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 3: just there. The water shortage has a big impact on 267 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 3: people in the Central Valley whose wells are running dry, 268 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 3: and in the story you write how less wealthy communities 269 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 3: are often the ones that get hit especially hard. 270 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, so there's multiple reasons for that. 271 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 4: One is just the lack of water itself means that 272 00:16:55,840 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 4: these communities access to surface water is restricted. Secondly, because 273 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:04,360 Speaker 4: there's so much deep water drilling, the water tables dropping, 274 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 4: and a lot of these poorer communities just have shallow wells, 275 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 4: which essentially means that their wells are going dry, so 276 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 4: their most reliable source for clean water basically it goes away. 277 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 6: Essentially. 278 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 4: One of the themes of our story is deep wells 279 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:22,399 Speaker 4: drained shallower wells, and a lot of these poorer communities 280 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 4: tend to have the shallower wells. 281 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,959 Speaker 7: It's just getting more instead of better. And I know 282 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 7: the farmers need water because without the farming, we're not 283 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 7: going to have food, but they go down so deep 284 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 7: because they don't have the irrigation like they used to. 285 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:46,399 Speaker 5: The upshot of our reporting about institutional investors in the 286 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 5: Central Valley of California shows the convergence of climate change 287 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 5: and inequality, and that's because it's the poorer communities, the 288 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:01,199 Speaker 5: farm worker communities that have been chronically under invested and 289 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 5: don't have the water infrastructure, particularly adequate wells or municipal 290 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:12,880 Speaker 5: water systems that supply households. This isn't a coincidence because 291 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 5: farm worker communities have been sort of left on the 292 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:20,120 Speaker 5: dusty byways of the central Valley away from the largely 293 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:28,120 Speaker 5: white farming towns forever. So households and small farmer communities 294 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 5: communities of farm workers are left without water. 295 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 3: Sinduja. This is obviously a very big and long lasting problem. 296 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 3: What is the solution. What is the state doing to 297 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 3: try to minimize the depletion of the state's water. 298 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:48,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I think in some cases, you know, importing 299 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: surface water is like one of those small solutions. But 300 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: I think the really big thing is to first of 301 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 1: all manage water and track who's using how much, and 302 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: make progress towards The second thing is to really impose 303 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: limits on what can be taken from the ground and 304 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:08,239 Speaker 1: how much water can be taken from the ground, and 305 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 1: see what the impacts of that are. And really I 306 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 1: think that when in twenty fourteen Sigma A Sustainable Groundwater 307 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 1: Management activis passed, they wanted the local agencies nearby to 308 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 1: take responsibility for coming up with plans, coming up with 309 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:29,119 Speaker 1: ways to use water sustainably. The state is sort of 310 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:33,439 Speaker 1: like trying to have the local agencies come up with 311 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: plans and then managing and enforcing those plans, and also 312 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 1: monitoring them and approving them and denying them where they 313 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 1: lack that enforcement. 314 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 4: I think the most significant thing the state has done 315 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 4: is pass the Sustainable Groundwater Management Act, which essentially requires 316 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:54,120 Speaker 4: the balancing of these aquifers so you're recharging as much 317 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 4: water as you're taking out of it. Actually, California with 318 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 4: the last state in the West to impose such regulation, 319 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 4: and the idea of this act is that over time, 320 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 4: it will restrict the amount of groundwater that could be 321 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 4: pumped out of these aquifers. The challenge with this regulation 322 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 4: is that the rules don't really have to have teeth 323 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 4: until twenty forty, so there's a long runway before a 324 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 4: lot of these restrictions will be imposed. 325 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:23,719 Speaker 3: Sinduja, Mark Peter, thanks so much for coming on the show. 326 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 1: Thanks Wes, thanks for having us. 327 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 3: Thanks for listening to us here at the Big Take. 328 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 3: It's a daily podcast from Bloomberg and iHeartRadio. 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