WEBVTT - Are Relationships a Waste of Time??

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<v Speaker 1>Hell I Suck At Dating with the Ungler and Jared

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<v Speaker 1>Haven and I heard radio podcast What's going on? Everyone?

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to an all new episode of Help I Suck

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<v Speaker 1>At Dating. This is Dean unglerd guest hosting this episode

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<v Speaker 1>with the lovely star of Help I Suck a Dating,

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<v Speaker 1>Jared Haven. Ladies and gentlemen, who might I just give

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<v Speaker 1>Jared a quick silent round of applause real quick. Got

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<v Speaker 1>his signs up on autre today per Instagram. At least

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<v Speaker 1>that's right now, They're up. They're up and good to go. Dude.

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<v Speaker 1>It was cool. So anyway, for anybody who doesn't follow

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<v Speaker 1>me on Instagram, which if you listen to this podcast

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<v Speaker 1>and you don't follow me, it's totally cool. But like

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<v Speaker 1>you can also follow me because it really helps me out. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm opening the coffee shop Audrey's Coffeehouse and Lounge in

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<v Speaker 1>South Kingston, Rhode Island. And we got the sign up,

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<v Speaker 1>which has been you know, a lengthy process, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>coming up with first of all the name of it

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<v Speaker 1>and articulating it after after figuring out was Audrey's, It's like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>well is it gonna be Audrey's Cafe? Is it gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be Audrey's Coffee Lounge? Is it gonna be Audrey's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>cafe and bar? And so we finally came up with

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<v Speaker 1>Audrey's Coffee House and Lounge. And then we've been working

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<v Speaker 1>on the logo, going back and forth, figuring out the font.

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<v Speaker 1>You man, you don't know how many fonts there are

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<v Speaker 1>in the world until you're trying to figure out a logo.

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<v Speaker 1>So going back and forth and that was a while,

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<v Speaker 1>and then coming up with the rose as the apostrophe,

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<v Speaker 1>and picking out different types of roses, what it was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna look like. Finally getting that in there, and then

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<v Speaker 1>sending it to the sign company, and then obviously creating

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<v Speaker 1>the sign, getting it shipped over here, and then getting

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<v Speaker 1>it put up in place. You know, it's probably like

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<v Speaker 1>a three or four month process, and it just it

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<v Speaker 1>makes it feel so much real. Every time I drive to,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the coffee shop, now it says Audrey's Coffee

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<v Speaker 1>House and Lounge on the outside, and it makes me

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<v Speaker 1>very proud. So it's cool, man, I'm excited. Um, what

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<v Speaker 1>about the inside, how's the inside coming along? It's coming along, man,

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<v Speaker 1>Tons of furniture in there. We've got a lot of equipment.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm not saying anything that you know, people

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<v Speaker 1>already don't know, but there's obviously a huge issue with

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<v Speaker 1>manufacturing right now. Cargo ships can't enter the States, and

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<v Speaker 1>everybody's behind and doesn't have product, and they don't have

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<v Speaker 1>enough people to work, and it's just it's pretty crazy

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<v Speaker 1>right now. And so what usually takes a week takes

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<v Speaker 1>you know, five weeks now, and everybody's behind. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>just me. So it's coming along with the equipment, furniture,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you know, I have electricians and plumbers and

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<v Speaker 1>installation people coming in and out every day. I actually

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<v Speaker 1>just left there and then I gotta go back right

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<v Speaker 1>after this podcast. But dude, honestly, every aspect of it

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<v Speaker 1>so far, except for the past week. The past week

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<v Speaker 1>has been a little overwhelming, but I love it. It's

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<v Speaker 1>been so much fun, you know, creating this concept, figuring

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<v Speaker 1>out what we're gonna do, how we're gonna sell things,

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<v Speaker 1>how the operation is going to be run, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>bringing generous coffee and so having been being a part

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<v Speaker 1>of it in a way, having you guys be a

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<v Speaker 1>part of it, kind of come up with, you know, drinks.

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna ask you this too. I told you

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<v Speaker 1>I think a couple of weeks ago, but I want,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, all of our bachelor friends to come up

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<v Speaker 1>with some sort of quote about dating or relationships, and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll have cards, you know, and it will be like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a quote about love from Dean Angler. And

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<v Speaker 1>obviously it would be something silly and stupid, because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I've already got mine. What's it gonna be. It's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be coffee is like dating. You gotta try it. All

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<v Speaker 1>that is awesome. Yeah at Dean anglert Um perfect. So dude, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's been cool, man, it's been fun. Um. Caylin asked

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<v Speaker 1>me this yesterday. I didn't have an answer for her.

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<v Speaker 1>She wanted to know when it uh tentatively is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be opening, hopefully later this month. As long as

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<v Speaker 1>things get into place and we're ready to rock and roll.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't imagine that we wouldn't open by the latest

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<v Speaker 1>early November, because you guys want to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>strike hot with pumpkin spice latte season among us. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>of course, man, We're gonna have so much pumpkin and

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<v Speaker 1>eggnog flavors and caramel and chocolate and whatever else. Ashley wants.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was gonna be February for some reason.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why, but I guess when I saw

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<v Speaker 1>your video of the inside and I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's like still pretty far away from being finished. So

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<v Speaker 1>that was about two months prior that video I took

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<v Speaker 1>about two and a half months ago, and um, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot different now and I'm excited to show people

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<v Speaker 1>new floors, new paint, uh, furnitures in their more equipment.

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<v Speaker 1>We actually had our computer system installed today and um,

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<v Speaker 1>it's definitely scary. I'm not gonna lie. What is it

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<v Speaker 1>like building out a business as an influencer? Are you

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<v Speaker 1>able to like partner with furniture companies to like furnish

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<v Speaker 1>the inside of the I was telling Ashley this yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how anybody's doing anything without Instagram following.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, I feel so grateful and blessed and appreciative.

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<v Speaker 1>I always have been of people that choose to follow

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<v Speaker 1>me on social media, just as I know you are.

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<v Speaker 1>Were like, I don't know why people follow us, but

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<v Speaker 1>I feel incredibly lucky that they do because it helps

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<v Speaker 1>me out so much. Even dude, so hiring is obviously

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<v Speaker 1>very difficult for a lot of business owners out there.

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<v Speaker 1>Ashley has posted two things on Instagram and I've gotten

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<v Speaker 1>like twenty resumes just from that, and I've interviewed them

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<v Speaker 1>all and they're all great, and they're all excited to

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<v Speaker 1>work there. And you know a lot of that also

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<v Speaker 1>comes from them being fans of the show and an

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity to work with us. But that's fine by me.

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<v Speaker 1>And and it's just, you know, I've been able to

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<v Speaker 1>even post things on on like even when I post

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<v Speaker 1>videos of like the coffee shop, people DM me and

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<v Speaker 1>be like, hey, I do this if you want anything

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<v Speaker 1>or you need help. And like somebody reached out to

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<v Speaker 1>Ashley when she posted something on Instagram. Uh, and she's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do. We just hired her to do a mural

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<v Speaker 1>inside the coffee shop and she created this beautiful, beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>um landscape and it's just and like, I would never

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<v Speaker 1>have I would never have found her had she not

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<v Speaker 1>reached out after Ashley posted that thing. So it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't even know who to reach out to.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've been so lucky that people reach out to

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<v Speaker 1>me sometimes. Um, yeah, that's funny that you say that.

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<v Speaker 1>I definitely agree Kaylin has done a great job of

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<v Speaker 1>decorator in house as well, and a lot of that

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<v Speaker 1>has been through business partnerships that she's gotten. So I

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<v Speaker 1>mean we're definitely one of the some of the lucky

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<v Speaker 1>ones out there. Umah, yeah, that's what's like the starting

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<v Speaker 1>wage for barista. And I'm asking because I might consider

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<v Speaker 1>applying as well. You're gonna have Amy Unis on later,

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<v Speaker 1>and she talks a lot about women in transition after divorce.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to know, like, if I were to transition

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<v Speaker 1>from being a quote unquote influencer to like wanting to

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<v Speaker 1>be a barista, what could I expect for my my pay. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>so we are coffee house and lounge, so you'd be

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<v Speaker 1>a baristas slash bartender, which is totally cool. I'll cross

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<v Speaker 1>train you. It's gonna be super easy, you know, Deane,

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<v Speaker 1>since we're friends, we go way back, you know, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>give you. I'll start your offense like eight. That's so

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<v Speaker 1>generous of you. I'll give you a really good compensation,

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<v Speaker 1>make sure you enjoy the job. You can't collect tips.

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<v Speaker 1>All the tips go to make but a fifty an hour.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll start yet and we'll see how you go. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>we'll bump you up in three years to eight sixty um.

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<v Speaker 1>For for reference everyone that's listening to this podcast, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a three dollars below the Rhode Island minimum wage, which

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<v Speaker 1>is eleven fifties. So I appreciate that, and we're not

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<v Speaker 1>going to talk about that. We're fine. This is my

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<v Speaker 1>minimum wage. This is the bachelor minimum, which very generous. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>the minimum wages eleven fifty. I wit, like, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>the minimum wage in the and the minimum like living

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<v Speaker 1>wage are way different. Obviously, back when we were like

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<v Speaker 1>working those types of jobs like hospitality or in restaurants.

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<v Speaker 1>Minimum wage back then, I can't remember what it was

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<v Speaker 1>for me in Colorado Springs, but I want to say

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<v Speaker 1>it was like a six dollars and cents. Oh yeah, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I remember my first job at the Hollywood Video I

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<v Speaker 1>think I was making like seven bucks an hour. Granted

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<v Speaker 1>that was you know, it's a fifteen years ago. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, so I just wow, my, I just I

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<v Speaker 1>just threw up into my mouth a little bit because

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<v Speaker 1>I was about to say like ten years ago, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, nope, that was fifth teen years ago when

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<v Speaker 1>I got hired at that job. It's definitely It's definitely

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<v Speaker 1>good that it keeps going up. I think there should

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<v Speaker 1>be like a minimum living wage, right and that is

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<v Speaker 1>definitely not higher than what it was when we were kids.

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<v Speaker 1>But man, it's crazy to think that we used to

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<v Speaker 1>work for absolute peanuts and well we were sixteen. Man, Like, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>if I got seventy bucks a week, I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm rich. I'm going like, We're going out to Domino's tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>What do we want to talk about this episode? Jared

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<v Speaker 1>Phillison on what we what we have in store? So

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<v Speaker 1>of course we have. We have two guests that are

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<v Speaker 1>coming up. One is Amy UTIs, who is a life

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<v Speaker 1>coach uh specifically she helps women um date after divorce.

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<v Speaker 1>She is a woman of divorce and she has been

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<v Speaker 1>in relationships since her divorce, long term relationships, including pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much jumping into a five year relationship immediately following her divorce.

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<v Speaker 1>So she's gonna come on talk about that. And we

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<v Speaker 1>also have a buddy of mind coming on the podcast

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit later. He's a cancer survivor. His name

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<v Speaker 1>is Cody O'Connor. Now he has an incredible story. This

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<v Speaker 1>dude is walking literally early across the country. He started

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<v Speaker 1>back in June in New York and he's walking all

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<v Speaker 1>the way from New York to Los Angeles. He should

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<v Speaker 1>be in l A by about Christmas time. I think

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<v Speaker 1>he's in Kansas City right now. And he's doing it

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<v Speaker 1>to raise money for pediatric cancer patients. So he's a

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<v Speaker 1>survivor of cancer. He wanted to give back in any

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<v Speaker 1>way he could, and he I forget what type of

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<v Speaker 1>cancer he had, excuse me, but he was told at

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<v Speaker 1>one point in his life that he was never gonna

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<v Speaker 1>walk again, which is why he came up with this walk,

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<v Speaker 1>and he ended up to find the odds started walking.

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<v Speaker 1>Now he's cancer free, and he always had this idea

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<v Speaker 1>of because the doctors told me I would never be

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<v Speaker 1>able to walk, I want to walk across the country.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's doing it to try to raise money for

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<v Speaker 1>pediatric cancer families, cancer patients and their families. And this

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<v Speaker 1>dude is so inspiring. I've talked to him a few times.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't Instagram Live with them. Ben is the one

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<v Speaker 1>who actually put me in contact with him. So he's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna come on a little bit later and just give

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<v Speaker 1>us a little bit of a lowdown of his story

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<v Speaker 1>where he's at, how he's feeling. I mean, the dude

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<v Speaker 1>literally is walking across the country. It's insane and he's

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<v Speaker 1>doing some great things. But before we get to our two,

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<v Speaker 1>guess I do have well we have some hot topics

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<v Speaker 1>my friend. Uh yeah, before we get to the hot

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<v Speaker 1>topics quick, for the record, it's it was bone cancer,

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<v Speaker 1>bone cancer? Thank you? Yes? Um wow, this is an

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<v Speaker 1>interesting segway talk about like we're gonna talk about Megan

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<v Speaker 1>King and uh connected with cuff Owens on a dating app.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, do we know who tough Owens is?

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<v Speaker 1>Follow up question? Do we know who Megan King is? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Of course Megan King's got she used to be. Where's

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<v Speaker 1>that am I thinking of? Who's Jim Edmond's ex wife? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Megan King? Thank you? All right? You know Jim Edmonds? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't at all know the baseball player Jim Edmonds.

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<v Speaker 1>He played baseball center fielder for the Okay, why is

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<v Speaker 1>Jim Emmen so famous? I mean I know he's a ballplayer,

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<v Speaker 1>but like, why was they on Were they on a

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<v Speaker 1>reality TV show or something? Oh, she was a housewife,

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<v Speaker 1>ash So Ashley's yelling from the other room. God, she's

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<v Speaker 1>so good at context. So Megan was a real housewife.

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<v Speaker 1>Jim was a baseball player. He was dude, you remember

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<v Speaker 1>this guy. He used to make like top ten plays

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<v Speaker 1>all the time, full extension diving plays. I think he

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<v Speaker 1>was a center fielder for the Cardinals. But I digress.

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<v Speaker 1>So he married a real housewife. Maybe that's why they're famous. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>So Megan and Jim are divorced, and now she's dating

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<v Speaker 1>this dude named cuff Owens, who apparently in this article

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<v Speaker 1>says that he is the son of President Joe Biden. Oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>they just got married. Wait. Wait, cuff Owens Joe Biden's nephew,

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<v Speaker 1>according to People dot Com. Okay, so he's his nephew. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, it's definitely not his son. Okay, So

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<v Speaker 1>cuff Owens is the nephew of President Joe Biden. Megan

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<v Speaker 1>King just married him, and they apparently met each other's

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<v Speaker 1>family after one week of dating, which is at the

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<v Speaker 1>core of what we're getting at here. So apparently they

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<v Speaker 1>met online, they connected on a dating app, they texted

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<v Speaker 1>for a day two, and then they spent five straight

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<v Speaker 1>hours on the phone when they first spoke. Now, this

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<v Speaker 1>is where it gets a little Craig Craig. So by

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<v Speaker 1>the time that call ended, their first phone call ever,

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<v Speaker 1>after five hours, Cuff was booked and packed for a

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<v Speaker 1>flight to St. Louis. That took off an eight hours,

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<v Speaker 1>and within a week they were both back on the

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<v Speaker 1>East Coast together, meeting his family and starting to plan

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<v Speaker 1>their future together. That's crazy. So they just got married

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<v Speaker 1>on Monday, small ceremony at their home. I'm curious how

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<v Speaker 1>long they were dating before they got married. A month.

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<v Speaker 1>They were dating a month, man, I thank god you're here, Ashley.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got the inside and phone everything. So they were mad.

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<v Speaker 1>So they were together for a month, started talking about

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<v Speaker 1>their future after eight days of knowing each other, including

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<v Speaker 1>him booking a flight after the first phone call, and

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<v Speaker 1>now they're married. This is gonna end disastrously. Yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's definitely gonna end disastrously. You can't marry someone after

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<v Speaker 1>that short amount of time. Apparently. I was just doing

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<v Speaker 1>a quick research on him on exact networth dot com

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<v Speaker 1>Cuff owens, although his net worth is unknown, he's an

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<v Speaker 1>attorney in Los Angeles and he's forty two years old,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's all I was really able to gather on him. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>listen when you know, you know it sounds like Megan King, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't. I don't watch these um real

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<v Speaker 1>Housewives of Whatever shows. Kalen Kylin does, and I, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>from time to time I'll sit down and watch for

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit. You sound like every guy that's ever

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<v Speaker 1>approached us. And it was like, you know, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>watch the show, my wife does. And then you start

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<v Speaker 1>talking to him and they know everything about the show. No, no,

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<v Speaker 1>no, no no, no. This this is different because I know

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely nothing. All I know about the show is that, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>how do I how do I say this delicately? Like

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<v Speaker 1>the people? The people on that show, the Real Housewives particularly,

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<v Speaker 1>are very eccentric and they're they're just they just go

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<v Speaker 1>about living life a little bit differently than everyone else.

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<v Speaker 1>And so the fact that she's marrying this guy after

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<v Speaker 1>a month is, um, it's surprising. But then you take

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<v Speaker 1>into account that she's a real housewife of whatever, and

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<v Speaker 1>it becomes a little bit more understandable because that's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of exactly the type of behavior I would expect from

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<v Speaker 1>those people on that show. They could be nice and

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<v Speaker 1>all that kind of stuff, but they are nice. I've

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<v Speaker 1>met Megan, she's extremely nice. Yeah, I just um, they

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<v Speaker 1>just they're just they're just they live life by the

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<v Speaker 1>beat of their own drum, you know. Yeah, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>very impulsive because yeah, okay, Ash, how long were Megan

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<v Speaker 1>King and Jim Emmons married for? Okay, so they so

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<v Speaker 1>she was married for four or five years. They got

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<v Speaker 1>a divorce a few years ago. I remember that was

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of years ago at least. And I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like Megan King would know better than anybody to not

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<v Speaker 1>rush into anything like this because who would want to

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<v Speaker 1>get divorced again? Who knows? Who knows? I feel weird

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<v Speaker 1>commenting on this type of stuff because again, like I

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<v Speaker 1>have no real will understanding of the situation. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>just it's like all a little a little wonky, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you can't help but think something is is is

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<v Speaker 1>missing or misfiring because you don't you just don't. You

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<v Speaker 1>just don't go up and get married to someone after

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<v Speaker 1>a month. But at the end of the day too,

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<v Speaker 1>like on the flip side of it, I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>if you talk to your grandparents, you they're like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I knew the day that I met her that she

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<v Speaker 1>was the one I was going to spend the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of my life with and we got married a week

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<v Speaker 1>later in a barn down a mile away from the house.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you're like, it's so romantic nowadays. We're like

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<v Speaker 1>in the moment, we're like, what, that's weird. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you bring up a valid point, my friend. Plus, here's

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<v Speaker 1>two guys from a bachelor franchise saying that someone shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>get married after a month when we were on shows

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<v Speaker 1>where you propose to someone after knowing that after me

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<v Speaker 1>and a half weeks. So although neither of us did that,

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<v Speaker 1>so I do think that gives us a little more

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<v Speaker 1>of a of a cushion to talk about, you know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>even when producers asked him to right, producers asked you too,

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<v Speaker 1>and you said me, my friend, we all saw the

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<v Speaker 1>US Weekly headlines last week. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I love um.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so much fun when a little off handed comments

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<v Speaker 1>I make on this podcast gets run by those magazines

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<v Speaker 1>and then uh, people take to Twitter and Instagram and

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<v Speaker 1>just you know, say really mean things about me. But

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<v Speaker 1>it is what it is. This, this is the this

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<v Speaker 1>is the world we signed up to live in. And

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<v Speaker 1>I guess it pays the bill. So that's all that's

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<v Speaker 1>all that matters to me. Yeah, we put our Herbie

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<v Speaker 1>Hancock's signature on that thing a long time ago. My friend,

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<v Speaker 1>one more hot topic before we move on. Uh So

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<v Speaker 1>this is an article from Bustle. It's most relationships and

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<v Speaker 1>but that doesn't mean they were a failure. There are

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<v Speaker 1>many benchmarks for measuring the quote success of a relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>With this in mind, marriage or otherwise being together forever

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't have to be the golden standard of what we

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<v Speaker 1>want with someone and beat ourselves up for losing. The

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<v Speaker 1>goal of love can just be having a nice time.

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<v Speaker 1>It can be letting yourself feel things you haven't felt

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<v Speaker 1>in a long time or have never felt before. This

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<v Speaker 1>perspective isn't just to ease the pain from breakups as

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<v Speaker 1>they happen. It is also to help make the best

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<v Speaker 1>choices in the present moment. There is no prize for

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<v Speaker 1>staying in a relationship longer than you really want to

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<v Speaker 1>just because you're afraid to quote fail or don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to confront nose, confront annoying relatives during the holidays, regardless

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<v Speaker 1>of how things come to a close. When the goal

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<v Speaker 1>is love for love instead of love for always, a

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<v Speaker 1>relationships end doesn't spell failure. Breaking up doesn't mean you

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<v Speaker 1>wasted your time or theirs, and moving in different directions

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't necessarily lessen the beauty of the time when you

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<v Speaker 1>were in the same place. Do you agree with that? I?

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<v Speaker 1>I do agree with it. I think that there are certain,

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<v Speaker 1>um like certain caveats to that type of thinking. But

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<v Speaker 1>I would say, like, there's no such thing as a

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<v Speaker 1>as a wasted moment, because like every moment is a

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<v Speaker 1>learning opportunity. Like that's kind of essentially what they're saying.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds like, um and I agree with that. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you wouldn't be in your great relationship with

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<v Speaker 1>Ashley if you didn't have all of those quote unquote

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<v Speaker 1>fail relationships with people beforehand. And same with me with Kaylin.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, like I've I've definitely had a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>uh in the moment. Maybe they felt like bad relationships,

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<v Speaker 1>but they kind of acted as learning experiences for me.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think as long as you approach those types

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<v Speaker 1>of things with that mentality of like, oh, yeah, that

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<v Speaker 1>really sucked, but now I know what I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>for the next time. You know, it's it's it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of flipping your perspective is what it sounds like, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't agree more. I never thought I never understood

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<v Speaker 1>why people would say, oh, it was such a waste

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<v Speaker 1>of time, I wasted three years on that person. No,

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't, and you had so many different experiences and

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<v Speaker 1>you learned, you loved, you grew, you just lived life people.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what it's all about, living life. Uh. And this

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<v Speaker 1>is actually a good segue because we're going to talk

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<v Speaker 1>to Amy about you know, quote unquote time wasted after

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<v Speaker 1>you know, she got divorced, and I wonder if she

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<v Speaker 1>feels like her time was wasted at all. But that's

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<v Speaker 1>a conversation when Amy is here. I will say that

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<v Speaker 1>there are, um and I'm sure you would agree with this,

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<v Speaker 1>there are certain situations, like you know, talking about like

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<v Speaker 1>abusive situations where you're like, okay, that wasn't that was

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<v Speaker 1>an absolute waste? Well, yeah, that's an extreme. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're talking about any type of physical especially physical,

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<v Speaker 1>but emotional abuse too within a relationship, yeah, that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>a whole different. Then you're allowed to say you wasted

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of years of your life if you were

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<v Speaker 1>with someone that was doing that kind of stuff. Yeah

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<v Speaker 1>a jerk. Um. But like I said, we have Amy

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<v Speaker 1>coming up next, So before she comes on, let's take

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<v Speaker 1>a quick break. All right, welcome back to help I

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<v Speaker 1>suck at dating of course, Dean myself, and we're joined

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<v Speaker 1>by a very special guest. Uh. She is a dating

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<v Speaker 1>health coach. Uh. Well let me how about this. It's Amy.

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<v Speaker 1>You just ladies and gentlemen, and Amy tell us who

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<v Speaker 1>you are? Awesome? Uh and you got the last name right.

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<v Speaker 1>So first of all, thank you for that. I have

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<v Speaker 1>to I have to really think the producers for that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna lie. Uh. So thank you both for

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<v Speaker 1>having me. Very nice to meet you, and I have

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<v Speaker 1>to tell you my seventeen year old daughter is a

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<v Speaker 1>huge fan of you both. Um. I am a life coach.

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<v Speaker 1>I have done some matchmaking in my tenure and then

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<v Speaker 1>also my day job is a recruiter. So just my

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<v Speaker 1>kind of path through life right now is um connecting

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<v Speaker 1>people either you know, with their careers or romantically, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and then talking to people about what's going on with

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<v Speaker 1>them in their in their lives outside of work as well.

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<v Speaker 1>So um. But also I'm a divorced woman and I

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<v Speaker 1>think that that's part of what we're talking about today. So, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm here to talk about dating after after divorce or

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<v Speaker 1>or drawing from your own experience. You know, how difficult

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<v Speaker 1>was it for you and how long did it take

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<v Speaker 1>after your divorce to start dating? Well, I started dating

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<v Speaker 1>pretty quick and and I don't I think that that

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<v Speaker 1>is a UM, it definitely depends on the person, um

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<v Speaker 1>and the couple oftentimes as you both I'm sure can

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<v Speaker 1>imagine one to break up. Once it's time for someone

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<v Speaker 1>to break up, it's been dead for quite a long

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<v Speaker 1>a long time. So um, it was a few months

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<v Speaker 1>for me, uh, dipped right back into a very serious

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<v Speaker 1>relationship for a few years that ended up not working out,

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<v Speaker 1>and then, um, my path has been like this ever since.

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<v Speaker 1>So um, and I've been divorced for almost a decade.

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<v Speaker 1>So what's your take on the rule there isn't that

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<v Speaker 1>they're that breakup rule where however many years you guys dated,

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<v Speaker 1>that's how many months you should wait until you start

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<v Speaker 1>dating again. What's your take on that rule? I think

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<v Speaker 1>that you should, Um, that rule should be flown out

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<v Speaker 1>the window. UM, just fold it into like a paper plane.

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<v Speaker 1>My experience, you know, I had a very long relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>I was in a relationship for five years that just

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<v Speaker 1>ended this past June, UM, and I thought that was it.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, Okay, we're locked and loaded for life. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's been way easier to get over than most of

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<v Speaker 1>my other, um, major relationships. And I think it's because

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<v Speaker 1>I know myself really well at this point. So UM,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that the longer you live and the more

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<v Speaker 1>you kind of understand who you are when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to relationships, you can kind of show up differently as

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<v Speaker 1>time goes on. I've got a question for those types

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<v Speaker 1>of relationships. And I imagine that five year relationship that

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't your marriage, right, that was a separate one separate.

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<v Speaker 1>So so for a relationship like that, and it's just

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, forgive my naivete, because it's really all it

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<v Speaker 1>is with this one. What at what point do you

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<v Speaker 1>start to realize that maybe this is my person? Because

0:22:30.920 --> 0:22:33.880
<v Speaker 1>so I'm in my longest relationship now, two years, three months,

0:22:33.920 --> 0:22:36.639
<v Speaker 1>whatever it is, it's hard for me to imagine like

0:22:36.680 --> 0:22:40.040
<v Speaker 1>new information coming about in three more years where I'm like, oh, okay, wait,

0:22:40.040 --> 0:22:41.800
<v Speaker 1>maybe I don't want to be with this person anymore.

0:22:41.920 --> 0:22:44.480
<v Speaker 1>You know, I guess what what is there, Like, what

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<v Speaker 1>what exactly would that look like for someone in a

0:22:47.080 --> 0:22:51.320
<v Speaker 1>longer term relationship. Yeah, that's a great question. Um, I

0:22:51.320 --> 0:22:55.000
<v Speaker 1>would say to start with the context of people who

0:22:55.440 --> 0:22:58.000
<v Speaker 1>have already been in a marriage often have a lot

0:22:58.040 --> 0:23:01.239
<v Speaker 1>of factors that I would assume you don't yet, right, Like,

0:23:01.840 --> 0:23:05.960
<v Speaker 1>you have your girlfriend or wife, you have happy um,

0:23:06.040 --> 0:23:08.080
<v Speaker 1>and you know, things are kind of moving along at

0:23:08.119 --> 0:23:11.440
<v Speaker 1>a certain trajectory in your life once you've been divorced.

0:23:11.440 --> 0:23:14.200
<v Speaker 1>You put kids into the mix, you put money into

0:23:14.200 --> 0:23:18.119
<v Speaker 1>the mix, you know. Um. I mean I didn't work

0:23:18.359 --> 0:23:21.160
<v Speaker 1>when when I was married, and so part of part

0:23:21.200 --> 0:23:23.760
<v Speaker 1>of the reason I started dating quickly. Now now I

0:23:23.840 --> 0:23:27.080
<v Speaker 1>realized it is because I was like, somebody's gonna help

0:23:27.119 --> 0:23:32.199
<v Speaker 1>me out financially. Um. And the longer that I've you know,

0:23:32.720 --> 0:23:36.320
<v Speaker 1>been single and moved along in my career, I can

0:23:36.400 --> 0:23:40.040
<v Speaker 1>date men with a different lens because I don't need that. UM.

0:23:40.080 --> 0:23:42.840
<v Speaker 1>So I think that, you know, in terms of a

0:23:42.880 --> 0:23:48.840
<v Speaker 1>relationship lasting that long. Ultimately, for me and that particular man,

0:23:49.320 --> 0:23:51.439
<v Speaker 1>he never wanted to get married again. He never wanted

0:23:51.440 --> 0:23:53.920
<v Speaker 1>to you know, share space again. And for a long

0:23:53.960 --> 0:23:56.399
<v Speaker 1>time it was easy for me to ignore that, and

0:23:56.440 --> 0:23:58.000
<v Speaker 1>it got to the point where it wasn't that wasn't

0:23:58.000 --> 0:24:02.000
<v Speaker 1>easy anymore. How many long term relationships have you been in?

0:24:02.080 --> 0:24:05.280
<v Speaker 1>And when I say long term, I'll say more than

0:24:05.320 --> 0:24:11.840
<v Speaker 1>a year and a half in my including marriage or so.

0:24:12.880 --> 0:24:16.960
<v Speaker 1>I have friends that are in long term relationships and

0:24:17.520 --> 0:24:21.120
<v Speaker 1>their relationship changes over time, as all relationships do, but

0:24:22.080 --> 0:24:26.480
<v Speaker 1>they don't know if they're as happy as they were

0:24:26.480 --> 0:24:29.879
<v Speaker 1>in the beginning of a relationship, and so they question

0:24:29.920 --> 0:24:32.400
<v Speaker 1>whether they want to be in a relationship. So I

0:24:32.440 --> 0:24:34.760
<v Speaker 1>feel like a lot of people are like, well, you know,

0:24:34.880 --> 0:24:37.760
<v Speaker 1>this is great about my relationship, but this isn't so great?

0:24:37.840 --> 0:24:41.600
<v Speaker 1>And so am I just looking for something that's not there?

0:24:41.760 --> 0:24:43.720
<v Speaker 1>And I'm the type of person that always thinks the

0:24:43.720 --> 0:24:45.720
<v Speaker 1>grass is greener on the other side and I should

0:24:45.760 --> 0:24:49.560
<v Speaker 1>just accept this relationship for as it is because I'm happy,

0:24:50.200 --> 0:24:54.080
<v Speaker 1>or am am I missing something? And should I be

0:24:54.119 --> 0:24:57.320
<v Speaker 1>looking for something more? And whenever I have a conversation

0:24:57.480 --> 0:24:59.359
<v Speaker 1>like that with a friend who's in a relationship right

0:24:59.359 --> 0:25:01.760
<v Speaker 1>now and they don't know to do, I feel like

0:25:01.800 --> 0:25:03.480
<v Speaker 1>I never have a good answer. So what would your

0:25:03.480 --> 0:25:06.480
<v Speaker 1>answer be? Another great question? Um, So I have a

0:25:06.520 --> 0:25:10.360
<v Speaker 1>really good guy friend and right when this particular five

0:25:10.440 --> 0:25:13.000
<v Speaker 1>year relationship split up here and I went for a

0:25:13.080 --> 0:25:15.800
<v Speaker 1>hike um and he had been engaged to a woman

0:25:16.119 --> 0:25:18.640
<v Speaker 1>and that broke up. So he's been married once, had

0:25:18.640 --> 0:25:22.240
<v Speaker 1>a broken engagement. I was married once, had a broken

0:25:22.320 --> 0:25:23.919
<v Speaker 1>what I thought was going to be a lifetime partner,

0:25:24.560 --> 0:25:27.199
<v Speaker 1>And by the end of our hike, he's like, you

0:25:27.240 --> 0:25:30.800
<v Speaker 1>know what, what it should be really is just uncomplicated happiness.

0:25:30.840 --> 0:25:34.440
<v Speaker 1>So my advice to your friends or my own friends,

0:25:35.000 --> 0:25:38.840
<v Speaker 1>if it's difficult, if it's so challenging that you're more

0:25:38.920 --> 0:25:41.560
<v Speaker 1>upset than not. I mean, every relationship, of course, is

0:25:41.600 --> 0:25:44.119
<v Speaker 1>going to come with ups and downs, with struggles, with

0:25:44.200 --> 0:25:48.320
<v Speaker 1>needing to communicate through things, etcetera. But if it fundamentally

0:25:48.359 --> 0:25:50.480
<v Speaker 1>doesn't make you happy during this one time that you're

0:25:50.520 --> 0:25:53.840
<v Speaker 1>on the planet, you shouldn't be in it. And I

0:25:53.880 --> 0:25:58.000
<v Speaker 1>think that that's why unfortunately so many marriages and in divorce.

0:25:58.520 --> 0:26:00.640
<v Speaker 1>You know, I met my ex event at a bar

0:26:00.840 --> 0:26:04.920
<v Speaker 1>in San Francisco, and and we loved each other very much,

0:26:05.520 --> 0:26:07.760
<v Speaker 1>but we didn't change in the same way at the

0:26:07.760 --> 0:26:11.240
<v Speaker 1>same rate, and so as a result, that's not who

0:26:11.240 --> 0:26:15.399
<v Speaker 1>I should be living with day over day over day.

0:26:15.440 --> 0:26:18.359
<v Speaker 1>I shouldn't. I I want my children to see a

0:26:18.359 --> 0:26:20.359
<v Speaker 1>different model in terms of the way that they choose

0:26:20.400 --> 0:26:22.720
<v Speaker 1>their partner, and I want them to be able to

0:26:22.800 --> 0:26:25.600
<v Speaker 1>be authentic with whoever they are when it comes to

0:26:26.119 --> 0:26:28.440
<v Speaker 1>meeting somebody and settling down with them. I want to

0:26:28.440 --> 0:26:29.920
<v Speaker 1>I want to kind of shift gears for a second

0:26:29.920 --> 0:26:31.880
<v Speaker 1>really quick, too, because you kind of mentioned this briefly

0:26:31.920 --> 0:26:34.440
<v Speaker 1>and it it sparked my interests. So you said that

0:26:34.760 --> 0:26:38.120
<v Speaker 1>when you were married, you didn't work, and then after

0:26:38.160 --> 0:26:40.360
<v Speaker 1>your divorce, of course, you had to find a way

0:26:40.400 --> 0:26:42.320
<v Speaker 1>to to be able to make ends meet for yourself.

0:26:42.600 --> 0:26:44.280
<v Speaker 1>What was that process like and what kind of advice

0:26:44.320 --> 0:26:47.520
<v Speaker 1>would you have for someone going through maybe a similar situation?

0:26:47.600 --> 0:26:49.560
<v Speaker 1>And and one of the reasons why I really piqued, well,

0:26:49.560 --> 0:26:51.560
<v Speaker 1>there's at a couple of reasons that piqued my interest was.

0:26:51.960 --> 0:26:54.280
<v Speaker 1>One is because I just watched White Lotus. I don't

0:26:54.280 --> 0:26:55.960
<v Speaker 1>know if you guys have seen that, but when acts

0:26:56.440 --> 0:27:00.280
<v Speaker 1>very similar situation, very good. And two is be because

0:27:00.320 --> 0:27:02.720
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I'm kind of in that situation with

0:27:04.640 --> 0:27:07.000
<v Speaker 1>the way I make money. Now, I know I'm not

0:27:07.000 --> 0:27:08.240
<v Speaker 1>gonna be able to make money this way for the

0:27:08.280 --> 0:27:09.520
<v Speaker 1>rest of my life, so I'm going to have to

0:27:09.520 --> 0:27:11.720
<v Speaker 1>reintroduce myself into the workforce at some point. So I'm

0:27:11.720 --> 0:27:14.200
<v Speaker 1>just curious to hear from you and what kind of

0:27:14.200 --> 0:27:16.639
<v Speaker 1>advice you would have for, you know, people dealing with

0:27:16.640 --> 0:27:21.200
<v Speaker 1>something similar to that. Yeah, and in terms of the

0:27:21.200 --> 0:27:23.920
<v Speaker 1>people that I coach currently, that's kind of the main

0:27:25.520 --> 0:27:28.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm called a WIT a woman in transition, right, and

0:27:28.600 --> 0:27:31.119
<v Speaker 1>so that's that happens a lot, right, where you just

0:27:31.160 --> 0:27:32.879
<v Speaker 1>have to kind of pivot and figure out how to

0:27:32.960 --> 0:27:35.520
<v Speaker 1>land on your two feet. So the first thing I

0:27:35.560 --> 0:27:38.000
<v Speaker 1>did was just take whatever job I was offered. So

0:27:38.040 --> 0:27:40.119
<v Speaker 1>my first two jobs were like twenty five bucks an hour.

0:27:40.280 --> 0:27:43.399
<v Speaker 1>It was certainly not sustainable. I live in Marin County, California,

0:27:43.520 --> 0:27:45.879
<v Speaker 1>like right, you know, on the other side of the

0:27:45.920 --> 0:27:51.520
<v Speaker 1>Golden gate Bridge. Um, And for me, it was a

0:27:51.560 --> 0:27:54.000
<v Speaker 1>lot about networking and really determining what it was that

0:27:54.040 --> 0:27:55.919
<v Speaker 1>I was good at. My first job was at a

0:27:55.960 --> 0:27:57.960
<v Speaker 1>mortgage broker's office, and I was like, oh, I'll just

0:27:57.960 --> 0:28:00.879
<v Speaker 1>be a mortgage broker. Mm hm, like you're not allowed

0:28:00.920 --> 0:28:03.159
<v Speaker 1>to talk, You're not supposed to. I went in and

0:28:03.200 --> 0:28:05.639
<v Speaker 1>complemented someone's home and the woman who was training me

0:28:05.720 --> 0:28:08.679
<v Speaker 1>was like, you know, and I'm like, Okay, this is

0:28:08.680 --> 0:28:11.480
<v Speaker 1>not for me. I want to chat with people, get

0:28:11.480 --> 0:28:14.639
<v Speaker 1>to know people. So I think part of it was

0:28:14.960 --> 0:28:18.199
<v Speaker 1>determining what I'm good at, which is connecting with other humans,

0:28:18.560 --> 0:28:22.360
<v Speaker 1>and then figuring out how to make money and then

0:28:22.359 --> 0:28:25.160
<v Speaker 1>taking some big swings like I went from I worked

0:28:25.200 --> 0:28:29.240
<v Speaker 1>at a little tech um agency as a recruiter, then

0:28:29.240 --> 0:28:31.959
<v Speaker 1>went to restoration hardware, then drop offs, and now I'm

0:28:31.960 --> 0:28:35.239
<v Speaker 1>at a venture capital firm in tech. And you know,

0:28:35.680 --> 0:28:38.000
<v Speaker 1>you just have to keep putting yourself out there and

0:28:38.360 --> 0:28:40.080
<v Speaker 1>determining that you're the one that's going to be able

0:28:40.080 --> 0:28:42.960
<v Speaker 1>to do the job. It's funny too, well not funny,

0:28:43.000 --> 0:28:45.320
<v Speaker 1>but I'm I come from a recruiting background as well,

0:28:45.320 --> 0:28:48.280
<v Speaker 1>so it's always interesting to hear perspective from other recruiters.

0:28:48.360 --> 0:28:51.200
<v Speaker 1>You know, I didn't know that. Yeah, I was in

0:28:51.440 --> 0:28:53.560
<v Speaker 1>I was in tech for two years and then I

0:28:53.600 --> 0:28:57.239
<v Speaker 1>was a startup recruiter for three years before before going

0:28:57.280 --> 0:29:02.000
<v Speaker 1>full time influence here, which I mean, I feel like

0:29:02.040 --> 0:29:03.880
<v Speaker 1>I would love to go that route at this point.

0:29:03.920 --> 0:29:06.400
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, it's a it's a fun uh it's a

0:29:06.400 --> 0:29:08.640
<v Speaker 1>fun short term plan. But like I was saying, uh,

0:29:08.960 --> 0:29:10.200
<v Speaker 1>I know, at some point in my life I'm gonna

0:29:10.200 --> 0:29:12.800
<v Speaker 1>have to transition back to something. So it's always it's

0:29:12.800 --> 0:29:15.040
<v Speaker 1>always cool to hear perspectives of people that have had

0:29:15.080 --> 0:29:17.080
<v Speaker 1>to do something similar. So I appreciate that. Yeah, I

0:29:17.480 --> 0:29:22.160
<v Speaker 1>think there's so much opportunity out there right now that, um,

0:29:22.160 --> 0:29:28.400
<v Speaker 1>finding something that you love should be easy enough. Yeah. Absolutely, Um, Amy,

0:29:28.480 --> 0:29:31.920
<v Speaker 1>do you think again? You know we're a dating podcast,

0:29:32.000 --> 0:29:35.480
<v Speaker 1>so we're just gonna ask you some tough questions. Are

0:29:35.520 --> 0:29:42.120
<v Speaker 1>you ultimately happy that you got divorced, like cut the cord? Yes,

0:29:42.880 --> 0:29:47.040
<v Speaker 1>I am, um It it was not a road that

0:29:47.120 --> 0:29:49.400
<v Speaker 1>my family would have wanted for me. Um, it was

0:29:49.440 --> 0:29:52.920
<v Speaker 1>not a road that my children wanted. I don't think,

0:29:53.120 --> 0:29:55.360
<v Speaker 1>of course that Sean and I really wanted it in

0:29:55.400 --> 0:29:58.480
<v Speaker 1>certain ways either. But it's best for everybody. Um. I

0:29:58.520 --> 0:30:02.600
<v Speaker 1>think my kids have learned resiliency in a different way.

0:30:03.120 --> 0:30:05.080
<v Speaker 1>I have a career and I wouldn't have done that,

0:30:05.120 --> 0:30:08.960
<v Speaker 1>and it's been super fulfilling. Um. My ex husband is

0:30:09.000 --> 0:30:11.520
<v Speaker 1>remarried to a woman who is a personal friend of

0:30:11.520 --> 0:30:15.280
<v Speaker 1>mine at this point, Like we've become friends and you know,

0:30:15.320 --> 0:30:17.000
<v Speaker 1>go out to dinner just the two of us, and

0:30:18.160 --> 0:30:20.880
<v Speaker 1>to me, that's such a better payoff than being in

0:30:20.920 --> 0:30:25.720
<v Speaker 1>a relationship that we knew was dead. Um, And when

0:30:25.720 --> 0:30:28.240
<v Speaker 1>we were in therapy, our counselor said, you guys can

0:30:28.280 --> 0:30:30.480
<v Speaker 1>hang on to this for another five ten years or so,

0:30:30.880 --> 0:30:33.600
<v Speaker 1>but it's not It's not going to get that much better.

0:30:33.840 --> 0:30:36.760
<v Speaker 1>And I think that that's a disservice to everyone around us.

0:30:36.960 --> 0:30:39.520
<v Speaker 1>You know, if it's not Hell, yes, it should be.

0:30:39.520 --> 0:30:41.840
<v Speaker 1>No right, did you have her? I have a time

0:30:41.840 --> 0:30:45.320
<v Speaker 1>where you regretted it. The reason I'm asking this is

0:30:45.320 --> 0:30:47.760
<v Speaker 1>because I want people to who are listening to this,

0:30:47.760 --> 0:30:50.440
<v Speaker 1>who are relating to your situation, Because I'm sure there

0:30:50.480 --> 0:30:53.200
<v Speaker 1>are people who feel like, Okay, I'm doing the right thing,

0:30:53.200 --> 0:30:55.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm getting divorced, and this is going to make me happy,

0:30:55.560 --> 0:31:00.240
<v Speaker 1>but I'm sure that they have moments where they're doubting themselves. Yeah. Absolutely,

0:31:00.320 --> 0:31:02.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, and I would argue that that's true for

0:31:03.080 --> 0:31:06.040
<v Speaker 1>many of the major things that go on in our lives.

0:31:06.200 --> 0:31:10.320
<v Speaker 1>But um, certainly, you know, financially, it is frightening. For

0:31:10.360 --> 0:31:13.360
<v Speaker 1>a bit. Um, our daughter was really sick for a

0:31:13.360 --> 0:31:15.680
<v Speaker 1>while and I wanted somebody that I could just like

0:31:16.440 --> 0:31:18.320
<v Speaker 1>lay my head on their shoulder and talk it through.

0:31:18.880 --> 0:31:22.560
<v Speaker 1>You know, there were times that that person wasn't there. Um,

0:31:22.640 --> 0:31:28.880
<v Speaker 1>But ultimately I think like being authentic in your one

0:31:28.920 --> 0:31:32.000
<v Speaker 1>life is the most important thing. What do you think

0:31:32.040 --> 0:31:35.680
<v Speaker 1>the hardest part about dating again was, like what was

0:31:35.720 --> 0:31:39.440
<v Speaker 1>the biggest adjustment you had to make personally for it.

0:31:39.440 --> 0:31:42.880
<v Speaker 1>It's interesting that certain aspects of dating never change, Like,

0:31:43.680 --> 0:31:47.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, should is he gonna call? Should I call him?

0:31:47.520 --> 0:31:49.960
<v Speaker 1>What does this text mean? I'm like, I'm in my

0:31:50.400 --> 0:31:53.520
<v Speaker 1>mid forties, Like what, I can't believe I'm still asking

0:31:53.800 --> 0:31:57.640
<v Speaker 1>of these kinds of questions. Um. And then the only

0:31:57.640 --> 0:32:01.120
<v Speaker 1>other major adjustment recently was the act that that relationship

0:32:01.160 --> 0:32:04.520
<v Speaker 1>did end in June, and I thought, okay, like it

0:32:04.600 --> 0:32:08.400
<v Speaker 1>might be a husband, Like it might be over, you know, um,

0:32:09.320 --> 0:32:12.760
<v Speaker 1>and it was really lovely. Over the summer, I was

0:32:12.800 --> 0:32:14.880
<v Speaker 1>at a party in Tahoe and this man walked up

0:32:14.920 --> 0:32:18.120
<v Speaker 1>to me and he said, you know, I've met you

0:32:18.160 --> 0:32:21.640
<v Speaker 1>at X event and I just found out that you

0:32:21.720 --> 0:32:23.680
<v Speaker 1>and so and so broke up. And I'm really excited

0:32:23.680 --> 0:32:27.440
<v Speaker 1>about that. And that was like hugely validating and also

0:32:27.520 --> 0:32:29.280
<v Speaker 1>kind of a reminder to me, Like I tell my

0:32:29.320 --> 0:32:32.720
<v Speaker 1>friends and my clients like, you don't know who's watching you.

0:32:32.720 --> 0:32:34.400
<v Speaker 1>You don't know if there's like a guy at the

0:32:34.440 --> 0:32:36.360
<v Speaker 1>cafe or in your yoga class or what have you

0:32:36.480 --> 0:32:40.640
<v Speaker 1>that is waiting for his entrance. So I had to

0:32:40.720 --> 0:32:43.320
<v Speaker 1>kind of change that mindset watching you in like a

0:32:43.320 --> 0:32:46.320
<v Speaker 1>non creepyway, just to spens. I took it. I took

0:32:46.320 --> 0:32:50.200
<v Speaker 1>it as high praise. Yeah. Yeah, there's an endearing thing

0:32:50.200 --> 0:32:53.320
<v Speaker 1>about it, for sure. Yeah, of course. Um, So, what

0:32:53.360 --> 0:32:55.160
<v Speaker 1>are some of the things I want to ask you

0:32:55.200 --> 0:32:58.160
<v Speaker 1>about dating? As we've been talking about after your divorce,

0:32:58.200 --> 0:33:00.520
<v Speaker 1>so you obviously jumped right into a long term relationship.

0:33:00.680 --> 0:33:02.440
<v Speaker 1>Did you go on any dates with other people that

0:33:02.880 --> 0:33:06.080
<v Speaker 1>didn't go well? Um? I went on a couple of

0:33:06.120 --> 0:33:09.800
<v Speaker 1>dates that didn't go well. Nothing like dramatic or upsetting,

0:33:10.480 --> 0:33:13.719
<v Speaker 1>but one of the really cool things. And again I

0:33:13.760 --> 0:33:15.840
<v Speaker 1>wonder if this is because it's people who have been

0:33:15.840 --> 0:33:19.120
<v Speaker 1>divorced and we live in like the same community. I

0:33:19.160 --> 0:33:22.040
<v Speaker 1>think people are pretty respectful of each other's feelings. So

0:33:22.160 --> 0:33:24.440
<v Speaker 1>there's a few guys that I have dated over the

0:33:24.520 --> 0:33:26.880
<v Speaker 1>years who are just really good friends of mine. At

0:33:26.880 --> 0:33:29.479
<v Speaker 1>this point, you know, it was probably pretty easy at

0:33:29.520 --> 0:33:32.680
<v Speaker 1>the beginning to go this isn't gonna be it. But

0:33:32.760 --> 0:33:36.560
<v Speaker 1>you're a really amazing person, and so I've got these

0:33:36.560 --> 0:33:38.840
<v Speaker 1>guy friends who I can like hype with and go

0:33:38.920 --> 0:33:41.960
<v Speaker 1>to brunch and that kind of stuff, and new girlfriends

0:33:42.080 --> 0:33:47.560
<v Speaker 1>who are married to your ex husband. Yeah, because you

0:33:50.040 --> 0:33:53.360
<v Speaker 1>go to dinner with his wife, so it's his wife

0:33:53.480 --> 0:33:56.080
<v Speaker 1>with his ex wife. Yeah. I think every now and

0:33:56.120 --> 0:33:59.560
<v Speaker 1>then he feels a little ganged up on. She's she's

0:34:00.000 --> 0:34:03.400
<v Speaker 1>ash and she's amazing, and she's like, sure, you need

0:34:03.440 --> 0:34:07.400
<v Speaker 1>to cool Ami back, you know, And I'm sure he's like, yeah,

0:34:07.440 --> 0:34:09.439
<v Speaker 1>my own. I gotta say though, it's it's so nice

0:34:09.440 --> 0:34:12.480
<v Speaker 1>when um adults, especially with children, are able to split

0:34:12.560 --> 0:34:15.680
<v Speaker 1>up and have that amicable friendship still. Like, for instance,

0:34:15.760 --> 0:34:17.320
<v Speaker 1>yesterday I was playing golf of the buddy. I was

0:34:17.320 --> 0:34:20.400
<v Speaker 1>playing with him, his mom, and his stepdad, and on

0:34:20.520 --> 0:34:22.840
<v Speaker 1>like the ninth hole, he gets a call from his

0:34:22.880 --> 0:34:24.560
<v Speaker 1>step mom that she was gonna come join us, and

0:34:24.600 --> 0:34:26.640
<v Speaker 1>I was like, that's kind of weird. Your stepmom and

0:34:26.680 --> 0:34:29.000
<v Speaker 1>your mom are going to be hanging out. And he goes, no, dude,

0:34:29.080 --> 0:34:31.400
<v Speaker 1>like they're best friends. My stepdad and my dad are

0:34:31.440 --> 0:34:33.160
<v Speaker 1>best friends. And I was like that, like I remember

0:34:33.160 --> 0:34:36.200
<v Speaker 1>really had a firsthand experience with anything like that before,

0:34:36.239 --> 0:34:38.040
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, that's like such a mature thing

0:34:38.440 --> 0:34:40.560
<v Speaker 1>to be able to like all be friends and be cordial,

0:34:40.680 --> 0:34:42.239
<v Speaker 1>especially like for the kid's sake and all that kind

0:34:42.239 --> 0:34:44.600
<v Speaker 1>of stuff. So high praise for people that are able

0:34:44.640 --> 0:34:46.880
<v Speaker 1>to do that. Yeah, it's been fun. I've been to

0:34:47.040 --> 0:34:49.600
<v Speaker 1>quite a few, you know, birthday parties or events in

0:34:49.680 --> 0:34:53.160
<v Speaker 1>morn where the exes are all together, and I think

0:34:53.280 --> 0:34:59.440
<v Speaker 1>people are really um committed to creating the modern family

0:34:59.560 --> 0:35:02.400
<v Speaker 1>at this Yeah, the modern family. It's definitely a good

0:35:02.400 --> 0:35:05.759
<v Speaker 1>way to put it, so old school nice. Do you

0:35:05.760 --> 0:35:06.960
<v Speaker 1>work with a lot of women? Do you work with

0:35:07.280 --> 0:35:12.840
<v Speaker 1>men ever? Oh? Yeah, um, not as many, It's I think, Um,

0:35:12.880 --> 0:35:18.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, life coaching has been my side gig pandemic,

0:35:18.239 --> 0:35:21.400
<v Speaker 1>single mom, et cetera. So um, and I think that

0:35:21.440 --> 0:35:23.440
<v Speaker 1>the people are who are most drawn to me at

0:35:23.520 --> 0:35:26.440
<v Speaker 1>this point are people that are in similar situations. What

0:35:26.520 --> 0:35:29.280
<v Speaker 1>kind of difference is do you notice, uh, generally speaking

0:35:29.320 --> 0:35:31.239
<v Speaker 1>of course, between like the men and the women going

0:35:31.239 --> 0:35:37.279
<v Speaker 1>through similar situations. Um. I would say that the men

0:35:37.360 --> 0:35:40.640
<v Speaker 1>that I've worked with in general have just been a

0:35:40.640 --> 0:35:43.520
<v Speaker 1>little bit more guarded, at least from the beginning, Like

0:35:43.560 --> 0:35:45.120
<v Speaker 1>it takes a little while to kind of get to

0:35:45.120 --> 0:35:48.520
<v Speaker 1>the nitty gritty of what's going on. Lots of talk

0:35:48.600 --> 0:35:51.520
<v Speaker 1>about like, oh, I'm really overwhelmed by this work project,

0:35:51.560 --> 0:35:55.160
<v Speaker 1>and it's like, I'm not you would not be here

0:35:55.680 --> 0:35:58.280
<v Speaker 1>paying me to tell me this if that's really overwhelmed.

0:35:58.640 --> 0:36:02.799
<v Speaker 1>So this is a fair you know what. Men and

0:36:02.840 --> 0:36:05.239
<v Speaker 1>as a man, I could say this, We're not the

0:36:05.239 --> 0:36:10.399
<v Speaker 1>sharpest tools in the ship. I'm a huge fan. Okay, good,

0:36:10.440 --> 0:36:13.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad, But I do think it just takes a

0:36:13.320 --> 0:36:16.720
<v Speaker 1>little a little bit to get to like what's making

0:36:16.840 --> 0:36:21.680
<v Speaker 1>your what's making you feel stuck as a man? Well, Amy,

0:36:21.719 --> 0:36:23.879
<v Speaker 1>I really appreciate Dean and I really appreciate you coming

0:36:23.920 --> 0:36:27.319
<v Speaker 1>on the podcast. Um, but we know that you're doing

0:36:27.360 --> 0:36:30.440
<v Speaker 1>some life coaching. Is there anywhere people can find you

0:36:30.440 --> 0:36:32.080
<v Speaker 1>who are listening to the podcast I want to know

0:36:32.120 --> 0:36:36.200
<v Speaker 1>more about? Yeah? Yeah, My Instagram is probably the best place.

0:36:36.280 --> 0:36:39.359
<v Speaker 1>I have a calendarly link um for an introductory call

0:36:39.400 --> 0:36:41.960
<v Speaker 1>if anybody wants, you know, to potentially have an appointment

0:36:42.000 --> 0:36:45.040
<v Speaker 1>with me. And that is my first name dot last name.

0:36:45.200 --> 0:36:48.520
<v Speaker 1>So it's a M I E. Not why so when

0:36:48.520 --> 0:36:51.040
<v Speaker 1>you're spelling it on Instagram A M I E dot

0:36:51.520 --> 0:36:54.919
<v Speaker 1>y you d I C E and they're the dogs. Amy.

0:36:54.920 --> 0:36:57.600
<v Speaker 1>One question too before we part ways. Um, I know

0:36:57.680 --> 0:37:00.360
<v Speaker 1>you do a lot of like post breakup work. But

0:37:00.440 --> 0:37:02.399
<v Speaker 1>is there any like pre break up work that you

0:37:02.640 --> 0:37:04.319
<v Speaker 1>are able to help with or willing to help with

0:37:04.560 --> 0:37:06.880
<v Speaker 1>or have done before where it's like, let's say someone's

0:37:06.920 --> 0:37:09.200
<v Speaker 1>like maybe considering a divorce or something like that. Is

0:37:09.239 --> 0:37:13.879
<v Speaker 1>there anything like that? I wouldn't feel, um like I was, like,

0:37:13.960 --> 0:37:17.160
<v Speaker 1>I have the educational background. I'm not a therapist, so

0:37:17.440 --> 0:37:19.680
<v Speaker 1>I feel like that's a little out of my wheelhouse.

0:37:19.800 --> 0:37:21.640
<v Speaker 1>I talk about it with my friends all the time.

0:37:22.160 --> 0:37:27.040
<v Speaker 1>But short answer about that, No, okay, cool. I mean

0:37:27.440 --> 0:37:29.640
<v Speaker 1>definitely you can definitely added to the repertoire at some

0:37:29.680 --> 0:37:32.440
<v Speaker 1>point that like a transitionary type thing where it's like

0:37:32.480 --> 0:37:34.760
<v Speaker 1>maybe kind of already agreed upon and we're just working

0:37:34.760 --> 0:37:36.560
<v Speaker 1>through it. But I think you're doing great things. I

0:37:36.600 --> 0:37:39.720
<v Speaker 1>think obviously your lovely person. So anyone should take your advice,

0:37:39.760 --> 0:37:43.120
<v Speaker 1>I think, and run with it. So best of luck, Amy.

0:37:43.160 --> 0:37:45.799
<v Speaker 1>You just check her out on Instagram. She's gonna turn

0:37:45.800 --> 0:37:50.160
<v Speaker 1>your life around. Yes, thanks a lot, you guys. Than

0:37:51.760 --> 0:38:05.440
<v Speaker 1>I welcome back to help I suck at dating. We

0:38:05.480 --> 0:38:09.280
<v Speaker 1>have very special guests joining us right now from somewhere

0:38:09.320 --> 0:38:11.200
<v Speaker 1>in the country. I'll let him talk about it, but

0:38:11.239 --> 0:38:14.680
<v Speaker 1>it is Cody O'Connor, who is walking across the country

0:38:14.680 --> 0:38:17.359
<v Speaker 1>to raise money for pediatric cancer patients. Cody, how you doing,

0:38:17.360 --> 0:38:21.399
<v Speaker 1>buddy good? How are y'all doing? I'm doing well. So,

0:38:21.680 --> 0:38:23.640
<v Speaker 1>first of all, tell us a little bit about your story,

0:38:24.280 --> 0:38:26.719
<v Speaker 1>why you wanted to do this walk, and where you're

0:38:26.760 --> 0:38:30.440
<v Speaker 1>currently at in the country right now. Yeah, man, So

0:38:30.960 --> 0:38:34.480
<v Speaker 1>currently we're just outside of Kansas City. We are approaching

0:38:34.600 --> 0:38:37.440
<v Speaker 1>the border and very very much so looking forward to

0:38:37.560 --> 0:38:41.200
<v Speaker 1>getting into Kansas. But at age fourteen, I came down

0:38:41.200 --> 0:38:43.360
<v Speaker 1>with young starkhoma, which is a form of bone cancer

0:38:43.640 --> 0:38:46.120
<v Speaker 1>that affects roughly about four d children every single year

0:38:46.120 --> 0:38:48.920
<v Speaker 1>in the United States. And through my battle, I saw

0:38:48.960 --> 0:38:51.600
<v Speaker 1>a couple of things, one of those being how much

0:38:51.640 --> 0:38:54.080
<v Speaker 1>it actually impacted my family. I'm the oldest of seven.

0:38:54.120 --> 0:38:56.120
<v Speaker 1>All the attention was pulled off of them and put

0:38:56.120 --> 0:38:59.160
<v Speaker 1>onto me, rightfully so, but but I didn't like that.

0:38:59.200 --> 0:39:01.360
<v Speaker 1>I felt like they still needed to be able to

0:39:01.360 --> 0:39:03.800
<v Speaker 1>go to their sporting events, be with their their friends

0:39:03.800 --> 0:39:06.720
<v Speaker 1>and all of that. My mom and my parents both

0:39:06.760 --> 0:39:10.880
<v Speaker 1>thought eviction, divorced, bankruptcy one of where food was coming from.

0:39:11.040 --> 0:39:13.520
<v Speaker 1>And seeing that stuff, I wanted to make a difference

0:39:13.760 --> 0:39:16.040
<v Speaker 1>The other thing that I noticed in my battle was

0:39:16.080 --> 0:39:17.839
<v Speaker 1>at the conclusion, I was told I would never walk

0:39:17.920 --> 0:39:21.640
<v Speaker 1>normally again in my life. And uh so to kind

0:39:21.680 --> 0:39:25.680
<v Speaker 1>of take control of my my circumstances, you know, we

0:39:25.680 --> 0:39:28.680
<v Speaker 1>we prayed hard, we worked hard, and now we have

0:39:28.760 --> 0:39:31.160
<v Speaker 1>a five oh one c three trying to fight all

0:39:31.160 --> 0:39:34.200
<v Speaker 1>of the stuff that I wanted to change, and we're

0:39:34.200 --> 0:39:37.120
<v Speaker 1>doing a fundraiser walking from Times Square to Santa Monica Pere.

0:39:38.600 --> 0:39:40.799
<v Speaker 1>I want to know more about this walk. Tell me

0:39:40.840 --> 0:39:44.719
<v Speaker 1>about this walk. So every everyone, every once in a while,

0:39:44.760 --> 0:39:47.080
<v Speaker 1>you'll see these big news headlines of someone walking across

0:39:47.120 --> 0:39:49.200
<v Speaker 1>the country. I'm just like in my head, like you

0:39:49.239 --> 0:39:52.200
<v Speaker 1>can't even it's like thinking about the number of one billion,

0:39:52.239 --> 0:39:54.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, you can't even really conceptualize what it what

0:39:54.640 --> 0:39:56.800
<v Speaker 1>it must be like. So so tell us about the

0:39:56.840 --> 0:39:59.480
<v Speaker 1>walk so far, and just like kind of what that

0:39:59.520 --> 0:40:04.560
<v Speaker 1>all in tail else? Really, Yeah, it's it's a logistical nightmare,

0:40:05.040 --> 0:40:09.440
<v Speaker 1>to be honest. I mean you you really don't understand

0:40:09.480 --> 0:40:12.440
<v Speaker 1>how much you love the ability to do laundry until

0:40:12.480 --> 0:40:15.520
<v Speaker 1>you're with a few people that just reek. Man, It's

0:40:15.800 --> 0:40:18.960
<v Speaker 1>it's crazy. You know. We we've already gone through like

0:40:19.000 --> 0:40:25.080
<v Speaker 1>ten pairs of shoes, we the heat, the the assistance

0:40:25.120 --> 0:40:29.280
<v Speaker 1>that we've needed from from sponsors, from donations to help

0:40:29.400 --> 0:40:32.800
<v Speaker 1>us get through. This has been crazy. It's um. Sometimes

0:40:32.840 --> 0:40:35.360
<v Speaker 1>it's hard to wrap my own head around. But honestly,

0:40:35.400 --> 0:40:37.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, a normal day really consists of waking up.

0:40:37.920 --> 0:40:40.640
<v Speaker 1>We probably get up between seven and eight. If we're lucky.

0:40:40.680 --> 0:40:44.040
<v Speaker 1>We found a hotel room that that that evening drewy

0:40:44.080 --> 0:40:46.840
<v Speaker 1>In has done donated a bunch, so we've been lucky

0:40:46.920 --> 0:40:49.040
<v Speaker 1>for about forty nights so far in a row and

0:40:49.239 --> 0:40:53.200
<v Speaker 1>hopefully that continues. UM. But we found ourselves sleeping in

0:40:53.280 --> 0:40:56.360
<v Speaker 1>police parking lots from time to time. So whenever we

0:40:56.400 --> 0:41:00.839
<v Speaker 1>wake up shortly after that, we're we're often walking and

0:41:01.000 --> 0:41:03.759
<v Speaker 1>my I have a trail car. They tail me and

0:41:04.320 --> 0:41:06.359
<v Speaker 1>they kind of carry all my stuff. So because I'm

0:41:06.360 --> 0:41:08.759
<v Speaker 1>not supposed to do this, I try to keep all

0:41:08.800 --> 0:41:10.960
<v Speaker 1>my backpacks and everything like that off of my body

0:41:11.120 --> 0:41:13.880
<v Speaker 1>so that there's less impact on my ankle. Allows us

0:41:13.920 --> 0:41:15.719
<v Speaker 1>to get a little farther in. It's safer for my

0:41:15.760 --> 0:41:19.680
<v Speaker 1>body in the long run. UM, And we pretty much

0:41:19.760 --> 0:41:23.040
<v Speaker 1>hydrate every single hour. We switched shoes probably about halfway

0:41:23.040 --> 0:41:25.600
<v Speaker 1>through the day to try to avoid the wear and

0:41:25.640 --> 0:41:29.320
<v Speaker 1>tear on the on the sole of the shoe and

0:41:29.640 --> 0:41:33.920
<v Speaker 1>honestly taking calls from the road, doing pretty much anything

0:41:33.960 --> 0:41:36.120
<v Speaker 1>that you would have to do in a normal work day,

0:41:36.120 --> 0:41:38.440
<v Speaker 1>and then trying to catch up on emails and when

0:41:38.440 --> 0:41:42.240
<v Speaker 1>the evening comes. Uh so it's a long, strenuous day.

0:41:42.640 --> 0:41:45.520
<v Speaker 1>It's the same thing over and over and over and again.

0:41:45.640 --> 0:41:48.320
<v Speaker 1>So you have to be very very content being in

0:41:48.640 --> 0:41:51.480
<v Speaker 1>your own head. So it's it's kind of crazy. Can

0:41:51.480 --> 0:41:53.040
<v Speaker 1>you share a little bit more about I know you

0:41:53.040 --> 0:41:55.640
<v Speaker 1>said at the top of the of the segment that

0:41:55.719 --> 0:41:58.040
<v Speaker 1>you had bone cancer when you your first segnis when

0:41:58.040 --> 0:42:01.680
<v Speaker 1>you're sixteen? You said, right, I was fourteen and ten

0:42:01.719 --> 0:42:04.560
<v Speaker 1>months fourteen, Okay, So can you share more about um

0:42:04.600 --> 0:42:07.480
<v Speaker 1>that diagnosis? I know, maybe like less about how it

0:42:07.480 --> 0:42:09.280
<v Speaker 1>affected your family, because I need you touch on that already,

0:42:09.280 --> 0:42:12.200
<v Speaker 1>but more like what was like the prediction for your

0:42:12.200 --> 0:42:15.279
<v Speaker 1>physical well being after that, you know, like, and then

0:42:15.280 --> 0:42:16.600
<v Speaker 1>what did you have to go through to kind of

0:42:16.600 --> 0:42:20.839
<v Speaker 1>get back to where you are today? Yeah? So, initially

0:42:20.920 --> 0:42:25.240
<v Speaker 1>when I was diagnosed, we were prescribed basically fourteen cycles

0:42:25.280 --> 0:42:28.520
<v Speaker 1>of chemotherapy. We weren't sure if I would need radiation

0:42:28.840 --> 0:42:31.040
<v Speaker 1>in my battle. I ended up needing twenty five cycles

0:42:31.040 --> 0:42:33.799
<v Speaker 1>of that, and I actually went under into surgery for

0:42:33.840 --> 0:42:36.480
<v Speaker 1>the whole removal of my bone, not knowing if they

0:42:36.480 --> 0:42:39.680
<v Speaker 1>would be able to save one inch that's like what's

0:42:39.719 --> 0:42:42.160
<v Speaker 1>commonly known as like your ankle bone, like that that's

0:42:42.160 --> 0:42:44.839
<v Speaker 1>on the outside, right. Uh, that inch would have been

0:42:44.840 --> 0:42:47.920
<v Speaker 1>able to allow me to still play sports, walk normally,

0:42:48.000 --> 0:42:50.319
<v Speaker 1>run normally, and all of that. When they had to

0:42:50.360 --> 0:42:52.440
<v Speaker 1>pull that out, they had to pin all of my

0:42:52.520 --> 0:42:56.040
<v Speaker 1>tendons into my tibia, my shin bone, and from there

0:42:56.080 --> 0:42:59.400
<v Speaker 1>forward it was all it was all downhill. Um. The

0:42:59.520 --> 0:43:02.080
<v Speaker 1>problem was that I would never do anything like this

0:43:02.160 --> 0:43:04.520
<v Speaker 1>in my life. I would never run place sports. So

0:43:04.600 --> 0:43:06.880
<v Speaker 1>those years, the year round athlete that I thought I was,

0:43:06.920 --> 0:43:09.840
<v Speaker 1>who I thought my identity was, I had to redefine myself.

0:43:10.120 --> 0:43:12.200
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, I mean I had a few years of

0:43:12.239 --> 0:43:17.240
<v Speaker 1>pity me within myself, just kind of feeling lost, trapped

0:43:17.320 --> 0:43:21.640
<v Speaker 1>in Um. You know, everybody always cheers for cancer patients

0:43:21.680 --> 0:43:26.600
<v Speaker 1>to win the battle, but oftentimes when they to win

0:43:26.640 --> 0:43:29.560
<v Speaker 1>the war, you need more support than that. Right. Mental

0:43:30.000 --> 0:43:32.880
<v Speaker 1>stuff is everywhere and it's coming more and more to

0:43:32.960 --> 0:43:38.920
<v Speaker 1>light in our society. So yeah, what do you think, um,

0:43:38.920 --> 0:43:43.399
<v Speaker 1>Being a cancer survivor. How has it changed you? It's

0:43:43.840 --> 0:43:46.520
<v Speaker 1>humbled me a lot. Uh, It's it's allowed me to

0:43:46.520 --> 0:43:49.320
<v Speaker 1>stop and smell the roses a little bit. Life is precious.

0:43:49.520 --> 0:43:53.160
<v Speaker 1>I before cancer I had I was very driven and

0:43:53.520 --> 0:43:55.959
<v Speaker 1>rightfully so, I mean I was what fourteen fifteen years

0:43:56.000 --> 0:43:59.000
<v Speaker 1>turned fifteen during my battle, So I mean I was

0:43:59.040 --> 0:44:01.560
<v Speaker 1>in that whole influence itself. Go to figure out what

0:44:01.600 --> 0:44:03.680
<v Speaker 1>you want to do in the future, Go to college,

0:44:03.840 --> 0:44:07.040
<v Speaker 1>get your job, go, go, go right, And I was

0:44:07.120 --> 0:44:09.719
<v Speaker 1>very much tunnel visioned when I went through cancer. I

0:44:09.760 --> 0:44:12.440
<v Speaker 1>call it the greatest experience of my life because it

0:44:12.520 --> 0:44:15.360
<v Speaker 1>really brought me closer to faith. Allow me to slow

0:44:15.400 --> 0:44:19.680
<v Speaker 1>down and really see who's around me, who, who's who?

0:44:19.800 --> 0:44:22.680
<v Speaker 1>Who needs help? Let me extend my hand a little

0:44:22.719 --> 0:44:25.279
<v Speaker 1>bit and let me smile a little bit more. Don't

0:44:25.280 --> 0:44:29.319
<v Speaker 1>don't rush through life trying to finish before before you

0:44:29.360 --> 0:44:32.399
<v Speaker 1>even start, you know. And uh so as of now

0:44:32.440 --> 0:44:37.520
<v Speaker 1>you are you are cancer free? I'm assuming Yeah, yeah, yeah, thankfully.

0:44:37.560 --> 0:44:39.680
<v Speaker 1>So So how did that How did that ankle bone

0:44:39.680 --> 0:44:41.400
<v Speaker 1>removal go? Did they were they able to spare a

0:44:41.400 --> 0:44:44.400
<v Speaker 1>little bit of it or is there still? It's all gone?

0:44:44.520 --> 0:44:47.440
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, So the whole, the whole fibula and my

0:44:47.440 --> 0:44:51.000
<v Speaker 1>ankle was gone. And my initial operation, I only lost

0:44:51.200 --> 0:44:55.000
<v Speaker 1>the lower half, but they took it from halfway in

0:44:55.040 --> 0:44:57.480
<v Speaker 1>your leg all the way out from the foot. Uh.

0:44:57.520 --> 0:44:59.840
<v Speaker 1>And then they found a blood clot at one of

0:44:59.880 --> 0:45:04.160
<v Speaker 1>my remission scans and that was in the bone that

0:45:04.280 --> 0:45:07.000
<v Speaker 1>was hanging there. So my whole family, about two years

0:45:07.000 --> 0:45:09.239
<v Speaker 1>after I beat cancer, I thought we were coming back

0:45:09.280 --> 0:45:12.200
<v Speaker 1>down with cancer. And instead of trying to do a

0:45:12.280 --> 0:45:16.200
<v Speaker 1>biopsy and dragging tumor cells into the body, they just

0:45:16.480 --> 0:45:19.880
<v Speaker 1>immediately basically said, hey, let's get you under the knife,

0:45:19.960 --> 0:45:21.839
<v Speaker 1>let's remove the rest of your bone because you don't

0:45:21.880 --> 0:45:26.560
<v Speaker 1>need it, and basically hope that it's not cancer. Turns

0:45:26.560 --> 0:45:28.399
<v Speaker 1>out it was a blood clot, and everyone else is all,

0:45:28.760 --> 0:45:31.000
<v Speaker 1>oh my gosh, blood clot. And I'm sitting here like

0:45:31.280 --> 0:45:35.640
<v Speaker 1>dancing in my room because it's not cancer totally. So

0:45:35.680 --> 0:45:37.680
<v Speaker 1>I know you mentioned this before we started. I'm not

0:45:37.719 --> 0:45:39.760
<v Speaker 1>sure if you mentioned on air yet though, but you're

0:45:39.600 --> 0:45:42.200
<v Speaker 1>you're currently in Kansas City. That's how far the walk

0:45:42.200 --> 0:45:44.720
<v Speaker 1>has taken you so far from Times Square to Santa Monica.

0:45:45.160 --> 0:45:46.960
<v Speaker 1>I just did the I just did the Google search.

0:45:47.040 --> 0:45:51.640
<v Speaker 1>That's one thousand, one point one miles. So how has

0:45:51.719 --> 0:45:54.200
<v Speaker 1>the ankle been holding up for those nearly twelve miles

0:45:54.239 --> 0:45:58.880
<v Speaker 1>so far? Yeah, it's surprisingly done really well. The biggest

0:45:58.880 --> 0:46:01.560
<v Speaker 1>problem we've had has been my hips, because I favor

0:46:01.640 --> 0:46:04.600
<v Speaker 1>one side versus the other. My anchor hip is my

0:46:04.680 --> 0:46:08.799
<v Speaker 1>left hip. I got back to my chiropractor when I

0:46:08.840 --> 0:46:12.040
<v Speaker 1>was passing through Cincinnati and he said that my hips

0:46:12.040 --> 0:46:15.799
<v Speaker 1>were rotated down and separated, so that initial adjustment was

0:46:16.120 --> 0:46:20.719
<v Speaker 1>rather painful needed, but they very very painful. So the

0:46:20.760 --> 0:46:24.359
<v Speaker 1>ankle itself is doing well, but everything else is kind

0:46:24.400 --> 0:46:26.719
<v Speaker 1>of the the question mark with this right now, do

0:46:26.719 --> 0:46:29.800
<v Speaker 1>you find yourself having a more physical or mental exhaustion?

0:46:30.120 --> 0:46:36.160
<v Speaker 1>Good question? I think physical because mentally I just end

0:46:36.280 --> 0:46:39.480
<v Speaker 1>up going into this pattern of whether it's getting in

0:46:39.520 --> 0:46:41.759
<v Speaker 1>sync with my trekking polls, so like a click clack

0:46:41.840 --> 0:46:43.879
<v Speaker 1>type of thing. You know, this isn't an under armor ad.

0:46:43.920 --> 0:46:47.200
<v Speaker 1>But just keep on going right, Uh, you know, you

0:46:47.320 --> 0:46:49.359
<v Speaker 1>just kind of fall in a trance on the road.

0:46:49.480 --> 0:46:52.239
<v Speaker 1>At least I find myself not really a runner's hide,

0:46:52.280 --> 0:46:56.600
<v Speaker 1>more of like a hypnotism by doing right and uh,

0:46:56.680 --> 0:47:00.480
<v Speaker 1>my body though trying to propel my hips really fight

0:47:00.520 --> 0:47:02.560
<v Speaker 1>through that It's it's kind of like you you pray

0:47:02.640 --> 0:47:07.440
<v Speaker 1>for that that numbness after there's too much pain, right,

0:47:07.719 --> 0:47:10.360
<v Speaker 1>just so that you can keep taking a few more steps.

0:47:10.760 --> 0:47:13.359
<v Speaker 1>So do you ever get I noticed myself whenever I'm

0:47:13.400 --> 0:47:15.640
<v Speaker 1>walking somewhere. Obviously I'm not walking to a hundred miles

0:47:15.640 --> 0:47:17.879
<v Speaker 1>anytime soon, but let's say I'm walking like a mile

0:47:18.000 --> 0:47:20.239
<v Speaker 1>and I just like a quarter of the mile into it,

0:47:20.280 --> 0:47:22.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm just like bored, right, and I'm just like, I'm

0:47:22.040 --> 0:47:24.160
<v Speaker 1>just gonna I'm just gonna run. I'm just gonna start jogging.

0:47:24.160 --> 0:47:25.680
<v Speaker 1>Do you ever do you ever get in that mindset

0:47:25.680 --> 0:47:27.920
<v Speaker 1>where you're like, I'm just gonna start sprinting like or

0:47:28.040 --> 0:47:30.520
<v Speaker 1>something like that. I don't know, And I wish I

0:47:30.560 --> 0:47:35.120
<v Speaker 1>could actor that he's cleared me for a lot um

0:47:35.360 --> 0:47:39.040
<v Speaker 1>he would frown upon that during this uh you know,

0:47:39.160 --> 0:47:40.920
<v Speaker 1>towards the end of the day, I want to sprint

0:47:40.920 --> 0:47:43.400
<v Speaker 1>it out, and you know, to be honest, my body

0:47:43.440 --> 0:47:46.160
<v Speaker 1>doesn't have it in it. And after like fifteen miles,

0:47:46.200 --> 0:47:50.200
<v Speaker 1>you know it's pretty much beat anyway. Um. But yeah, no,

0:47:50.440 --> 0:47:53.200
<v Speaker 1>I I actually find myself playing the game, like can

0:47:53.239 --> 0:47:55.960
<v Speaker 1>I count how many telephone calls I passed today? Something

0:47:56.440 --> 0:47:59.040
<v Speaker 1>so dumb. But it's like, you know, you're just playing

0:47:59.080 --> 0:48:02.720
<v Speaker 1>these little mind games with yourself. Recently I started reading

0:48:02.760 --> 0:48:05.719
<v Speaker 1>and recording like bathrooms, so I can give advice on im,

0:48:05.760 --> 0:48:08.960
<v Speaker 1>like where not to go. Yeah, that's like that's your

0:48:09.000 --> 0:48:12.640
<v Speaker 1>George Costanza kicking in. Yeah, pretty much pretty much? Is

0:48:12.640 --> 0:48:16.000
<v Speaker 1>there is there? I'm pretty pretty unfamiliar with how bone

0:48:16.040 --> 0:48:18.359
<v Speaker 1>cancer works. Is there any atrophy in any of your

0:48:18.360 --> 0:48:22.239
<v Speaker 1>other bones from it? Or was it mostly just in

0:48:22.280 --> 0:48:27.000
<v Speaker 1>the ankle? It was mostly just the ankle. Um luckily

0:48:27.040 --> 0:48:31.560
<v Speaker 1>mind state localized. It is possible that it would have spread. Um,

0:48:31.719 --> 0:48:33.760
<v Speaker 1>they can't ever prove that mine was in the marrow.

0:48:34.120 --> 0:48:37.000
<v Speaker 1>Wudn't have been in the marrow then I probably would

0:48:37.040 --> 0:48:39.560
<v Speaker 1>have had a much more of an uphill battle. So

0:48:39.600 --> 0:48:41.279
<v Speaker 1>I guess my main question is, like you're you're like,

0:48:41.360 --> 0:48:43.279
<v Speaker 1>let's say, like your fema on your left leg, which

0:48:43.320 --> 0:48:45.200
<v Speaker 1>is pretty far from your right ankle, right, like that

0:48:45.280 --> 0:48:50.440
<v Speaker 1>bone is pretty much unaffected from from that cancer. Yeah,

0:48:50.520 --> 0:48:53.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's pretty much. That's not to say that

0:48:53.080 --> 0:48:57.000
<v Speaker 1>chemo won't eventually, you know, have had long term effects

0:48:57.080 --> 0:48:59.840
<v Speaker 1>or anything like that on my body, but yeah, today

0:49:00.000 --> 0:49:02.359
<v Speaker 1>it is completely honest. That's cool I'm learning so much.

0:49:03.200 --> 0:49:07.880
<v Speaker 1>Appreciate it. Yeah, everybody listening, please go over to um

0:49:08.000 --> 0:49:11.240
<v Speaker 1>Cody's Instagram. Uh, you can click the link in his bio.

0:49:11.280 --> 0:49:14.520
<v Speaker 1>It's called Champions Do You Overcome dot Org? Or you

0:49:14.520 --> 0:49:17.680
<v Speaker 1>can just go to the website www. Dot Champions Do

0:49:18.200 --> 0:49:22.719
<v Speaker 1>Overcome dot Org. Donate. You can support him in any

0:49:22.800 --> 0:49:25.480
<v Speaker 1>way you can. I mean, Cody, what you're doing is

0:49:25.600 --> 0:49:29.920
<v Speaker 1>incredibly inspirational. I've had the privilege of being able to

0:49:29.960 --> 0:49:33.720
<v Speaker 1>talk to you sometimes as you're going on this journey,

0:49:33.840 --> 0:49:37.920
<v Speaker 1>and you know, anybody who's listening, please support him. I mean,

0:49:37.960 --> 0:49:41.600
<v Speaker 1>your money is going towards cancer patients and helping them

0:49:42.520 --> 0:49:44.680
<v Speaker 1>with a multitude of things that they need help with.

0:49:44.760 --> 0:49:46.839
<v Speaker 1>And so before you go, Cody, I do have two

0:49:46.920 --> 0:49:48.840
<v Speaker 1>questions for you, but I wanted to make sure I

0:49:48.840 --> 0:49:52.000
<v Speaker 1>plug that Champions Do Overcome dot Org. Please donate whatever

0:49:52.040 --> 0:49:54.719
<v Speaker 1>you can help us suck at dating just donated as well,

0:49:54.920 --> 0:49:58.680
<v Speaker 1>courtesy of Dean Dean was Dean really wanted to donate,

0:49:58.760 --> 0:50:02.840
<v Speaker 1>So we donated some money to work. Yes, I just

0:50:02.840 --> 0:50:06.040
<v Speaker 1>press I just pressed the button as a podcast thank you,

0:50:06.320 --> 0:50:08.040
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god. Of course that's the least we could do.

0:50:08.080 --> 0:50:09.279
<v Speaker 1>And of course it was it was I don't I

0:50:09.320 --> 0:50:11.279
<v Speaker 1>don't want to take credit forwards definitely Dean. Dean was like,

0:50:11.320 --> 0:50:13.160
<v Speaker 1>I really want to, so we did it as a

0:50:13.160 --> 0:50:15.439
<v Speaker 1>podcast and then I did want to ask two questions. One,

0:50:16.280 --> 0:50:19.040
<v Speaker 1>because you're so inspirationally and you inspire many many people,

0:50:19.120 --> 0:50:20.839
<v Speaker 1>and you do, my friend, I know you've had people

0:50:21.120 --> 0:50:23.960
<v Speaker 1>come up to you and say that they are inspired

0:50:24.000 --> 0:50:27.320
<v Speaker 1>by you, including myself. Who is you who inspires you?

0:50:28.160 --> 0:50:30.919
<v Speaker 1>And then secondly you said you've gone through like ten

0:50:30.960 --> 0:50:33.440
<v Speaker 1>different sneakers, so now we got to know what's the

0:50:33.440 --> 0:50:36.760
<v Speaker 1>best sneaker out there for walking or running? Good question?

0:50:38.040 --> 0:50:43.839
<v Speaker 1>All right, so the first one who inspires me? Um man?

0:50:43.960 --> 0:50:47.080
<v Speaker 1>That's uh, well, after snooping on Dean, because Dean, I

0:50:47.120 --> 0:50:49.320
<v Speaker 1>didn't know who you were until I saw this, honestly,

0:50:49.360 --> 0:50:52.040
<v Speaker 1>So after snooping on your life, it's kind of the

0:50:52.080 --> 0:50:55.160
<v Speaker 1>life I'm hoping to live, travel all the time, you know.

0:50:55.680 --> 0:50:58.839
<v Speaker 1>Uh No, so that could be a little inspiration. But

0:50:59.239 --> 0:51:05.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm honored. I'm honestly man. My my trainer, rich Rich Franklin,

0:51:06.160 --> 0:51:09.360
<v Speaker 1>he's a UFC Hall of Famer. He inspires me, kicks

0:51:09.400 --> 0:51:12.960
<v Speaker 1>my ass every single day. But honestly, breaking it down

0:51:13.000 --> 0:51:17.279
<v Speaker 1>to my grandma, my father, my grandpa, my mom, you know,

0:51:17.360 --> 0:51:21.040
<v Speaker 1>my the core of my family. Uh, they really get

0:51:21.080 --> 0:51:25.240
<v Speaker 1>me up, get me going. Um, because they've provided purpose

0:51:25.400 --> 0:51:28.000
<v Speaker 1>in my life thus far, and to be able to

0:51:28.040 --> 0:51:32.200
<v Speaker 1>give back and hopefully create something that can pay it

0:51:32.239 --> 0:51:34.759
<v Speaker 1>forward year in and year out from here on in

0:51:35.000 --> 0:51:38.200
<v Speaker 1>in my life and help people even after my life

0:51:38.280 --> 0:51:41.960
<v Speaker 1>is done. Um would be something that is just special.

0:51:42.800 --> 0:51:50.080
<v Speaker 1>So there's that non tier jerker reply. Um, we got sneakers. Um.

0:51:50.120 --> 0:51:54.320
<v Speaker 1>You know, Ultra has done awesome with providing you with shoes.

0:51:54.400 --> 0:51:56.680
<v Speaker 1>So I have to say, Ultra Running, if you're gonna

0:51:56.719 --> 0:51:58.680
<v Speaker 1>do any type of marathon stuff, if you're gonna do

0:51:58.719 --> 0:52:03.279
<v Speaker 1>any type of walking whatever, you got to be nice

0:52:03.280 --> 0:52:08.000
<v Speaker 1>to sponsor. We get that, We tillly get that. They

0:52:08.080 --> 0:52:10.360
<v Speaker 1>but but in all honesty, they have a wider toebox.

0:52:10.400 --> 0:52:13.080
<v Speaker 1>So for my foot in particular, it's it's been really

0:52:13.120 --> 0:52:16.919
<v Speaker 1>really nice. They're lightweight, they hold up. Um. And I've

0:52:16.920 --> 0:52:18.759
<v Speaker 1>had a couple of different pairs of theirs. I have

0:52:19.200 --> 0:52:22.520
<v Speaker 1>one that I used for the road on a regular basis,

0:52:22.560 --> 0:52:24.440
<v Speaker 1>and then I have a trekking pair that I use

0:52:24.520 --> 0:52:27.279
<v Speaker 1>it because their waterproof, so and I found both of

0:52:27.320 --> 0:52:29.760
<v Speaker 1>them to be very very good. Um. I have also

0:52:29.840 --> 0:52:33.279
<v Speaker 1>worn a pair of A six and Brooks, and to

0:52:33.360 --> 0:52:35.760
<v Speaker 1>this point I think that those are way too narrow

0:52:35.800 --> 0:52:38.560
<v Speaker 1>from my foot, so uh so yeah, so no matter

0:52:39.120 --> 0:52:41.479
<v Speaker 1>that they are my sponsor, I'm going with all trap

0:52:41.680 --> 0:52:43.200
<v Speaker 1>There we go. Good to know. Now I gotta get

0:52:43.200 --> 0:52:46.000
<v Speaker 1>a pair of Ultra sneakers because I FLYE. There you go,

0:52:46.440 --> 0:52:49.120
<v Speaker 1>see there you go? Well, Cody, thanks man for coming on.

0:52:49.200 --> 0:52:52.560
<v Speaker 1>We really appreciate it. Thank you all. You'll have a

0:52:52.560 --> 0:52:54.359
<v Speaker 1>good one. Yeah, thanks Cody. Be sure to go check

0:52:54.360 --> 0:52:57.680
<v Speaker 1>out check how his Instagram page overcomer Team, and be

0:52:57.719 --> 0:53:00.880
<v Speaker 1>sure to donate the link in his bio. Thanks guys,

0:53:01.120 --> 0:53:13.840
<v Speaker 1>Thanks Cody. Are everybody welcome back to help I suck

0:53:13.920 --> 0:53:16.400
<v Speaker 1>at dating? Big thank you to Cody and of course

0:53:16.440 --> 0:53:18.839
<v Speaker 1>Amy for joining us on this week's episode. We are

0:53:18.840 --> 0:53:21.960
<v Speaker 1>going to get into one quick email before we get

0:53:22.000 --> 0:53:24.640
<v Speaker 1>out of here for this week. I don't think Eastern's here.

0:53:24.640 --> 0:53:26.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't think Marcus here, but I'll tell you what.

0:53:27.239 --> 0:53:29.680
<v Speaker 1>We gotta Hannah, we gotta Kendall, we gotta Danielle. Do

0:53:29.719 --> 0:53:31.000
<v Speaker 1>any of them want to step up and read an

0:53:31.000 --> 0:53:35.840
<v Speaker 1>email for us? I can read the email. Somebody's listening

0:53:35.840 --> 0:53:40.200
<v Speaker 1>out there somebody's listening, I'm always listening. That's Hannah for

0:53:40.280 --> 0:53:43.880
<v Speaker 1>everyone that maybe doesn't recognize the voice. She is our

0:53:43.960 --> 0:53:47.200
<v Speaker 1>incredible one of our incredible producers. But thanks for stepping up, Hona.

0:53:47.239 --> 0:53:50.480
<v Speaker 1>We appreciate it anytime. So those emails from Zach, he

0:53:50.600 --> 0:53:52.680
<v Speaker 1>says I dated a girl for a little over a

0:53:52.719 --> 0:53:55.880
<v Speaker 1>year while in college. We broke up last Christmas. However,

0:53:56.000 --> 0:53:58.080
<v Speaker 1>after the breakup, we would basically hook up and not

0:53:58.320 --> 0:54:00.680
<v Speaker 1>like a couple without the label of a bowl. We

0:54:00.760 --> 0:54:03.720
<v Speaker 1>broke up initially because I was having reservations about getting

0:54:03.719 --> 0:54:06.759
<v Speaker 1>married and settling down, but upon breaking up, I found

0:54:06.760 --> 0:54:08.600
<v Speaker 1>it extremely hard to let her out of my life.

0:54:09.320 --> 0:54:11.840
<v Speaker 1>Fast forward to this summer, and we both decided we

0:54:11.880 --> 0:54:14.279
<v Speaker 1>shouldn't talk to each other anymore. We haven't talked in

0:54:14.360 --> 0:54:16.600
<v Speaker 1>about two months, but I'm finding that I'm missing her

0:54:16.680 --> 0:54:19.520
<v Speaker 1>like crazy. She also told me recently that she started

0:54:19.600 --> 0:54:21.760
<v Speaker 1>dating a guy who's a med student, which of course

0:54:21.880 --> 0:54:23.880
<v Speaker 1>makes me think about the amazing life she'll have with

0:54:23.920 --> 0:54:26.759
<v Speaker 1>the smarty pants like him. So even though I was

0:54:26.800 --> 0:54:28.600
<v Speaker 1>the one to break up with her, I'm surprised at

0:54:28.600 --> 0:54:30.840
<v Speaker 1>how much I miss her. I'm wondering if either of

0:54:30.880 --> 0:54:34.080
<v Speaker 1>you have been in a similar situation. Oh, man, Zach,

0:54:34.239 --> 0:54:36.879
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry to hear that. Man, that's uh well, I'm

0:54:36.920 --> 0:54:38.239
<v Speaker 1>sorry to hear it. But at the same time too,

0:54:38.239 --> 0:54:39.600
<v Speaker 1>it's like you kind of you kind of did this

0:54:39.640 --> 0:54:42.360
<v Speaker 1>to yourself, right, Like, yeah, he definitely did to himself.

0:54:42.360 --> 0:54:44.360
<v Speaker 1>But at the same time, Zach, this is what I

0:54:44.400 --> 0:54:46.480
<v Speaker 1>think I've been in situation. I've been in a situation

0:54:46.520 --> 0:54:48.680
<v Speaker 1>like before. This is what you need to do. You

0:54:48.800 --> 0:54:51.719
<v Speaker 1>need to confessor feelings and you need to tell this

0:54:51.840 --> 0:54:57.560
<v Speaker 1>girl how you feel. And Zach, you need to you know,

0:54:58.080 --> 0:55:03.840
<v Speaker 1>you buckle up and commit. That's my that's my suggestion.

0:55:03.920 --> 0:55:07.160
<v Speaker 1>If you truly love this girl, which you're making it

0:55:07.200 --> 0:55:10.120
<v Speaker 1>sound like you do, and you miss her like crazy,

0:55:10.239 --> 0:55:13.600
<v Speaker 1>then you need to commit. There's no one foot in,

0:55:13.719 --> 0:55:16.239
<v Speaker 1>one foot out anymore. If you think you want to

0:55:16.239 --> 0:55:18.120
<v Speaker 1>be with her, then tell her. I want to be

0:55:18.280 --> 0:55:20.640
<v Speaker 1>with you. This is what I want. I want a commitment,

0:55:20.680 --> 0:55:22.840
<v Speaker 1>I want to move forward. I want marriage in the future.

0:55:22.920 --> 0:55:25.839
<v Speaker 1>This is what we're planning. But Zack, if you're still saying, hey,

0:55:25.840 --> 0:55:26.840
<v Speaker 1>I want to be with you right now, I just

0:55:26.840 --> 0:55:28.279
<v Speaker 1>don't know if I want to marry you three years

0:55:28.280 --> 0:55:30.960
<v Speaker 1>from now, then sorry, it's on you, bro, then you

0:55:31.000 --> 0:55:33.520
<v Speaker 1>need to let her go. I know that this, uh,

0:55:33.600 --> 0:55:35.520
<v Speaker 1>this holds a special place in your heart because it's

0:55:35.640 --> 0:55:39.200
<v Speaker 1>very similar to it. You're a Nationley story. So I'll

0:55:39.280 --> 0:55:43.200
<v Speaker 1>choose my words carefully here. Um, should I hang up

0:55:43.239 --> 0:55:46.200
<v Speaker 1>now and just let you go? It might? It might, Yeah,

0:55:46.200 --> 0:55:48.040
<v Speaker 1>it might be a good time for that. No, I

0:55:48.120 --> 0:55:51.000
<v Speaker 1>just you you did it right, and like you said,

0:55:51.040 --> 0:55:52.480
<v Speaker 1>if you're not going to commit, then don't do it

0:55:52.520 --> 0:55:55.759
<v Speaker 1>at all. Um, I would say, though, having been in

0:55:55.800 --> 0:55:58.800
<v Speaker 1>a situation similar to what Zack is in now, it

0:55:58.920 --> 0:56:04.360
<v Speaker 1>sounds like he is just jealous of her ability to

0:56:04.400 --> 0:56:07.240
<v Speaker 1>move on, a her ability to find another great partner

0:56:07.320 --> 0:56:10.920
<v Speaker 1>be and now he like maybe like his own ego

0:56:11.040 --> 0:56:14.040
<v Speaker 1>is telling him that he like needs to reinsert himself

0:56:14.120 --> 0:56:16.960
<v Speaker 1>back into the picture. And again, I know it works out,

0:56:17.040 --> 0:56:18.839
<v Speaker 1>and like in years in actually's case, of course it did.

0:56:18.920 --> 0:56:22.239
<v Speaker 1>So maybe maybe Jared's advice is is a lot more

0:56:22.320 --> 0:56:26.520
<v Speaker 1>sound than mine. But it sounds like Zach is being

0:56:26.560 --> 0:56:29.359
<v Speaker 1>a little selfish here. You know, he's saying, Oh, she's

0:56:29.400 --> 0:56:31.399
<v Speaker 1>doing great, she's got all these things going for her,

0:56:31.760 --> 0:56:33.799
<v Speaker 1>But now I miss her, and now I want to

0:56:33.800 --> 0:56:36.080
<v Speaker 1>get her back, and now I want to reach out

0:56:36.160 --> 0:56:38.359
<v Speaker 1>to her and tell her how I feel like to me,

0:56:38.400 --> 0:56:41.440
<v Speaker 1>that just that on the surface, it sounds a little selfish.

0:56:41.480 --> 0:56:43.319
<v Speaker 1>And I know what you're saying is like, if he

0:56:43.360 --> 0:56:45.000
<v Speaker 1>really does mean these things, like if he really does

0:56:45.040 --> 0:56:46.880
<v Speaker 1>want to settle down with her like you did, actually,

0:56:46.920 --> 0:56:50.480
<v Speaker 1>then it's of course obviously worth it. But I guess

0:56:50.880 --> 0:56:53.399
<v Speaker 1>and the reason I think it's selfish because from my experience,

0:56:54.080 --> 0:56:56.680
<v Speaker 1>I've done that before and then we've broken up, you know,

0:56:56.760 --> 0:56:59.800
<v Speaker 1>not not three months later. So it's like, you're gonna

0:56:59.800 --> 0:57:03.319
<v Speaker 1>pull this this girl away from her current relationship and

0:57:03.360 --> 0:57:05.640
<v Speaker 1>then kind of leave her high and dry again three

0:57:05.640 --> 0:57:07.720
<v Speaker 1>to six months later on. Because that's just me projecting

0:57:07.719 --> 0:57:10.120
<v Speaker 1>what I've done in the past. So that's where I'm

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<v Speaker 1>coming from. I think you should just leave it alone,

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<v Speaker 1>let her be happy. You know, what's the old saying

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<v Speaker 1>like if you love a flower, let it grow or

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<v Speaker 1>whatever it is. It seems like that's kind of applicable

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<v Speaker 1>to the scenario. Just kind of like be hands off,

0:57:22.640 --> 0:57:24.680
<v Speaker 1>let her do her thing. If it's meant to be,

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<v Speaker 1>she'll come back around eventually. If it's not meant to be,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe she won't. So that's kind of my take on it. Listen.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with you. Actually, I think that if he's

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<v Speaker 1>having doubts or if he's like, oh yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I want to be with her, I just don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if I want to commit to her, then yeah, he's

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<v Speaker 1>being selfish and you're a right Dean. I just think, Zach,

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<v Speaker 1>if you need to do a little self reflecting, soul searching,

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<v Speaker 1>as they say, and if you think that this is

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<v Speaker 1>the girl you could potentially marry and you want to

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<v Speaker 1>be with her and you don't want to lose her

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<v Speaker 1>from your life, then of course confess your feelings and

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<v Speaker 1>see what happens. But if you're having any doubts of commitment,

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<v Speaker 1>and I agree with Dean, you're being selfish, bro. And

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<v Speaker 1>here's how every relationship, every breakup goes in a relationship. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we've talked about in this podcast before, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's something that I've noticed for a long time and

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<v Speaker 1>have believed for a long time is whenever there's a

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<v Speaker 1>breakup between a guy and a girl specifically, uh, the

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<v Speaker 1>guy immediately is so excited, he goes out on the town,

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<v Speaker 1>hangs out with his friends, loves being single. The girl

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<v Speaker 1>is devastated and uh, not to put it into like

0:58:22.840 --> 0:58:24.520
<v Speaker 1>any like gender trips or anything like that. But then

0:58:24.880 --> 0:58:26.360
<v Speaker 1>fast forward like to say like three or four or

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<v Speaker 1>five months. The guy is then devastated because he realizes

0:58:29.440 --> 0:58:31.720
<v Speaker 1>he was happier with the girlfriend in single life maybe

0:58:31.760 --> 0:58:34.280
<v Speaker 1>isn't as glamorous as he wanted it to be, and

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<v Speaker 1>the girl who had already grieved the relationship is now

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<v Speaker 1>over it passed it and moved on, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe dating maybe just generally happier. So it's like, you know,

0:58:43.400 --> 0:58:45.520
<v Speaker 1>one starts out really bummed, one starts out really happy,

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<v Speaker 1>and then eventually criss cross. And it sounds like that's

0:58:48.240 --> 0:58:50.600
<v Speaker 1>kind of a similar situation here where Zach, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>broke up with her really likes being single. Now what

0:58:54.320 --> 0:58:56.360
<v Speaker 1>the advantage of perspective is looking back and being like,

0:58:56.400 --> 0:58:58.320
<v Speaker 1>oh wait, maybe I actually don't want to be single,

0:58:58.320 --> 0:59:00.400
<v Speaker 1>Maybe I want to be in the relationship. It's just

0:59:00.480 --> 0:59:02.280
<v Speaker 1>it's a tail as old as time. I've been there

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<v Speaker 1>so many times with breakups in relationships where you get

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<v Speaker 1>out of the relationship and you're thrilled and you're you're

0:59:07.520 --> 0:59:08.960
<v Speaker 1>gonna be one of the boys again. You got to

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<v Speaker 1>go to the bars, you get to like you just

0:59:10.320 --> 0:59:11.840
<v Speaker 1>kind of not have to answer to anyone, just do

0:59:11.920 --> 0:59:14.520
<v Speaker 1>your thing, and then after enough time passes, you're just like,

0:59:14.560 --> 0:59:16.640
<v Speaker 1>oh wait, actually know, I kind of miss being in

0:59:16.640 --> 0:59:20.280
<v Speaker 1>the relationship. So that's kind of That's kind of why

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a little more critical is act because it reminds

0:59:23.120 --> 0:59:26.000
<v Speaker 1>me of me. It reminds me of like my college

0:59:26.080 --> 0:59:28.560
<v Speaker 1>days or like my f boy days. If you will. Yeah, No,

0:59:28.760 --> 0:59:32.280
<v Speaker 1>we need your criticism team because I'm usually wrong and

0:59:32.800 --> 0:59:35.080
<v Speaker 1>like I need someone to just, you know, tell me

0:59:35.120 --> 0:59:38.000
<v Speaker 1>how it actually is. I'm naive, you're realistic. You like

0:59:38.080 --> 0:59:41.040
<v Speaker 1>to look at life through rose colored glasses. Yeah, rainbows

0:59:41.040 --> 0:59:44.280
<v Speaker 1>and unicorns. Baby, I'm curious to get Honah, what's your

0:59:44.280 --> 0:59:48.360
<v Speaker 1>perspective on this? My perspective? Okay, and let's see. Well,

0:59:48.400 --> 0:59:51.280
<v Speaker 1>I think if he ended it, that's kind of his fault,

0:59:51.720 --> 0:59:54.920
<v Speaker 1>and if he really is missing her, I mean, I

0:59:54.920 --> 0:59:57.280
<v Speaker 1>don't think it's a bad thing for him to say

0:59:57.320 --> 0:59:59.640
<v Speaker 1>that and reach out to her, But if she wants

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<v Speaker 1>nothing to do with it, I mean he kind of

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<v Speaker 1>has to let her be. He was the one who

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to end it. I think what Hannah is saying

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<v Speaker 1>is I agree with you. He needs to do what

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<v Speaker 1>Dean didn't which is like you go back and you say,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm here for you. I want this, I want to commit,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to try. And if she says, hey, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>I've already moved on, then, like Hannah said, so be it.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think Dean, what you did was perfect because yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know you you ended things just like listen, I

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<v Speaker 1>ended things with Ashley, and then Dean, you were like, hey, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm an idiot. I made a mistake, which we all do,

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<v Speaker 1>and I want to try to correct that mistake. And

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<v Speaker 1>so instead of going down to Paradise and being like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, kind of like as much as I love

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<v Speaker 1>Kendall so much, and i I do, I love Kendall,

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<v Speaker 1>I just wish that she went down was a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more assertive like you were. So I think Zach

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<v Speaker 1>needs to be assertive if, if, and only if he's

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<v Speaker 1>going to commit and really pursue a long term relationship

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<v Speaker 1>with her. I know what's funny is I know we've

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<v Speaker 1>talked about this on the podcast before. I totally forgot

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<v Speaker 1>that mine and Kalen's relationships started very similar to how

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<v Speaker 1>yours and Ashley's did, and a lot of well not similar,

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<v Speaker 1>but there's a lot of parallels, right, and so I

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<v Speaker 1>guess maybe I am kind of on your side when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to that kind of thing too. We're just

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<v Speaker 1>like we are. The timeline is much much shorter than

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<v Speaker 1>yours and Ashley, so I always kind of disconnected to

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<v Speaker 1>But you're right, they were. They were basically one and

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<v Speaker 1>the same in a lot of ways. So more contensed version.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree. I agree. Just go out there, tell her

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<v Speaker 1>how you feel um at that point. Once it's out there,

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<v Speaker 1>just like once the information is out there, that's all

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<v Speaker 1>you can do, right, And that's kind of what everyone

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<v Speaker 1>seems to agree about. Once you like say your piece

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<v Speaker 1>and then let her kind of make her decision from there. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I agree. All right, Well that's gonna do it for

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<v Speaker 1>this week's episode of Help Us Look at Dating. Big

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<v Speaker 1>thank you to Amy you dis for joining us the

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<v Speaker 1>Life Coach. Check her out on Instagram. Of course, it's

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<v Speaker 1>spelled a M I E. I don't know why I said,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, but we mentioned it before. It's spelt a

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<v Speaker 1>little differently if you're looking up her her up on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 1>Cody O'Connor, thank you so much for coming on, buddy.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, go to www. Dot Chan Appiens Do Overcome

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<v Speaker 1>dot org. He's walking across the country. As you heard

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<v Speaker 1>his story cancer survivor, raising money for pediatric cancer patients

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<v Speaker 1>like this dude is an incredibly human being and you

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<v Speaker 1>really could use his support. So once again, if you

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<v Speaker 1>just go to his instagram, Cody O'Connor, you can check

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<v Speaker 1>out Champions Do Overcome. It's the link in his bio

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<v Speaker 1>and just donate anything you can. Thanks for Zach for

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<v Speaker 1>the email. We appreciate it, and as much as we

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<v Speaker 1>gave you some crap uh, we really do wish the

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<v Speaker 1>best for you, buddy, and thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 1>listening to the podcast. And I think that's gonna do it. Deany,

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<v Speaker 1>what's gonna happen next week, Jared, Well, hopefully we all

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<v Speaker 1>just suck a little less. Follow help by Suck at

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