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Speaker 1: Hey guys. Quick programming note. Next week I'm going to

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Speaker 1: be taking a little break gotta get some Katie time in,

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Speaker 1: new episode of Creature feature. Also in this episode, in

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Speaker 1: the Metal, Tom's audio had a little bit of an issue,

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Speaker 1: but it gets better after about fifteen minutes, so uh,

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Speaker 1: sorry about that. Thank you guys so much for listening,

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Speaker 1: and happy New Year. Please enjoy this very awesome metal episode.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Creature Future production of I Heart Radio. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host of Many Parasites, Katie Golden. I studied psychology

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Speaker 1: and evolutionary biology, and today on the show we're talking

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Speaker 1: about real life metal heads or metal butts. I guess

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Speaker 1: these animals are literally metal, reinforcing their bodies with metallic armor.

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Speaker 1: From spiders to snails to waspy tales. You don't want

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Speaker 1: as nailed critters. Discover this and more as we answer

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Speaker 1: the age old question our figs. Vegan joining me today

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Speaker 1: is front of the show Friend of Me and host

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Speaker 1: of many shows on the game Fully Unemployed Network. Tom Ryman.

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Speaker 1: Welcome and at least as many parasites probably more. I

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Speaker 1: like to think of myself as a welcoming host of

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Speaker 1: parasitic organisms. It's not a competition, right, Like, you know

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Speaker 1: we we can both have a ton of parasites. Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean now it is like, now that you've said that,

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Speaker 1: I feel like it is a competition. So I'm gonna go.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go roll in some filth. Yeah, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: like playing a little dumpster apartment complex. Get a microscope

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Speaker 1: I have in there, eat my skin flake. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go steal some pillow cases from a motel.

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Speaker 1: Then I'll be the winner. No, hey, thanks for having

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Speaker 1: me on. Yeah, you're you're very well. I am actually

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Speaker 1: We've tried. I know that there has been one or

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Speaker 1: that's pretty slippery customer. I'm a slippery parasite. Yeah, there

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Speaker 1: but we'll go with it. If you want your words,

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Speaker 1: your words not mine. Listen, it's early my time. So

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Speaker 1: the parasites that actually make you function haven't woken up

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Speaker 1: yet exactly. They're still they're still jet legged. The brain

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Speaker 1: worms that are really in control of the show, they're

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Speaker 1: all still drowsy, getting their little tiny cups of coffee

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Speaker 1: inside your brain flesh. So, Tom, are you a fan

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Speaker 1: of metal? Yeah? Actually yeah, we'll name metal. Name name

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Speaker 1: just imagine this deep sea hydrothermal vent snail like the

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00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 1: pangolin and you know, everyone's favorite familiar animal. So the

419
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 1: reason these are metal, it's not just because of how

420
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:04,719
Speaker 1: they look where they look like, you know, death pine cones.

421
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 1: It's that they are able to use the iron sulfide

422
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 1: spewing out of the events and incorporated into their tough

423
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 1: shells and scales. And it's the only known animal in

424
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 1: the world to use iron in its skeleton or in

425
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 1: this case, exoskeleton. HM. They can also use pyrite and greg,

426
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 1: which just sounds like some guy named Greg discovered this

427
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 1: and it was like, ah, yeah, this is greg eite.

428
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 1: Now I found it's Greg. Somebody looks at They're going

429
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 1: to think of this space space. This is Greg's rock.

430
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 1: Don't nobody forget it. So, yeah, they use pirate and

431
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 1: greg in building their shells, the ladder of which actually

432
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 1: makes them magnetic. So Greg Greg's rock is also magnetic,

433
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 1: I guess, which is cool. That's good to have your name. Yeah,

434
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 1: I like that they are magnetics. So you could like

435
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 1: take one and kind of like stick it on your fridge. Yeah,

436
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be happy about it, for sure. I could

437
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 1: use it to hang up my artwork in my math tests.

438
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 1: Your drawing of your your little drawings drawings of of

439
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 1: meat loaf looking for his car. It's like it's like

440
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 1: you just draw sort of a brown cube and it's like, well,

441
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 1: what is this. It's like, you know, the wandering meat loaf. Okay,

442
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 1: you guys know. It's like the pendulum. You guys know.

443
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 1: You guys know. Um. In order to survive near the

444
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 1: vents and obtain nutrients, they rely on a symbiotic relationship

445
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 1: with bacteria who are able to do chemosynthesis, because it

446
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 1: is very hard to find nutrients down there. A lot

447
00:30:56,560 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 1: of it is stuff that is basically inorganic, like it

448
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 1: can't be eaten by a typical animal, and so attitude.

449
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 1: I know, if you really put your mind to it,

450
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 1: you can puff a hydrothermal vent um. But yeah, the

451
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 1: bacteria can do chemosynthesis. They can break down these chemicals

452
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 1: in their byproduct can be eaten used as nutrients by

453
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 1: the snails and other life forms, so that you can

454
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 1: actually form these food chains down near the hydrothermal vent.

455
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 1: And it's all thanks to essentially like bacteria often living

456
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 1: inside of these animals. That is wacky. It's something I

457
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 1: thought of earlier when you mentioned there's probably some predator

458
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 1: that's like developed or evolved specifically to eat this thing.

459
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 1: Just generally, it's a crazy where like life will just

460
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 1: like life is so stubborn. I get sort of forming

461
00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 1: like next to volcanic vents at the bottom of the

462
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 1: like why go find something, goes find some myself. It's

463
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 1: easier to live in, Like Nope, this is our spot.

464
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: We're gonna make this work. Yeah, I mean I guess that.

465
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 1: I guess from what I can tell. The predators of

466
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 1: the snail are things like crabs and venomous snails, so

467
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 1: uh yeah, it's just like if they can like puncture

468
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 1: through their weird scaly exterior, they can get at that

469
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 1: nice soft, squashy meat. Probably delicious, I don't know. I

470
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 1: feel like it would have a pecan taste due to

471
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 1: all of the chemicals in bacteria, all the volcanic metals

472
00:32:48,400 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 1: right on the iron sulfide, it's kind of radioactive. So Tom,

473
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 1: earlier you were mentioning wasps, which I thought was very

474
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 1: interesting because you were foreshadowing, uh, what we're going to

475
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 1: talk about later, and you didn't even know it. Very

476
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 1: interesting because you are a wasps. Many people don't know this.

477
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 1: So we're going to talk about a parasitoid wasp called

478
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 1: Apocrypta who is very picky about the nursery she chooses

479
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 1: for her young So something you want to be choosy about. Yeah,

480
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, you know, like you can't just be

481
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 1: up any random animals. But um, so, uh, you had

482
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 1: mentioned like there are, oh, there are these wasps that

483
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 1: will like legs on things and paralyze them, and that

484
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 1: is true. There's like the tarantula hawk, which is a

485
00:33:55,400 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 1: parasitoid wasp that uses like uses tarantula as a host

486
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 1: and it's really terrifying and it's the most metal thing

487
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 1: probably in the animal kingdom indeed. And this is a

488
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:14,800
Speaker 1: similar wasp and it's metal in multiple ways. So the

489
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,919
Speaker 1: there is another wasp. So there's the wasp that were

490
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 1: ultimately going to talk about the Apo Crypto. But let's

491
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 1: pull put a pin in that wasp and then talk

492
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 1: about another wasp. So the fig wasp lays its larva

493
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 1: inside a butting fig. Uh. Fig wasps come in many

494
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:39,720
Speaker 1: different species. They are teeny teeny tiny, they're around two

495
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 1: millimeters big. They are smaller than an ant. In fact,

496
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 1: they can be eaten by ants, So they're they're the

497
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 1: world's cutest wasps. I'm gonna say in figs, imagine getting

498
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 1: one of those ships. I mean, wait for it. Uh.

499
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 1: So it's like the worst kinder egg. I mean you

500
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,720
Speaker 1: may if you eat the species of figs that these

501
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:08,399
Speaker 1: wasps are all about, there's a very good chance you've

502
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 1: eaten wasp and not even known it. So there are

503
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:17,240
Speaker 1: goal wasps. So this means that it lays its eggs

504
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 1: in the flesh of a plant, and the plant is

505
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 1: induced to form a goal, which is a kind of

506
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 1: round cyst which protects and nourishes the larva. In the

507
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 1: case of fig wasps, the females will actually squeeze their

508
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 1: way into the opening of an immature fig lay her

509
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 1: eggs and often die in the process because she's like

510
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 1: squeezing through this very tiny opening. Uh. And she'll like

511
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 1: lose her wings she's just like dragging herself in and

512
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:53,240
Speaker 1: parts of her just like coming off as she's dragging

513
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 1: herself through this fig um, and then she lays her

514
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 1: eggs and then she's just like, all right, I give

515
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 1: up and die. I mean, who among us I wouldn't

516
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 1: get to the end of that ordeal and just feel like,

517
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm done? This, This this fig is

518
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 1: my tomb. Yeah, and it is also I don't eat

519
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 1: figs anymore. Well, her body simply remains and is actually

520
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:23,760
Speaker 1: absorbed by the fruit. So if you eat a species

521
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:27,800
Speaker 1: of fig pollinated by these wasp species, you may also

522
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 1: be eating dead wasp jelly. Essentially, it's just like gets

523
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 1: sort of absorbed into the fig. Actually, you know, the

524
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 1: only fig I've ever actually eaten is the fig and

525
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,399
Speaker 1: a fig Newton, and you know that's processed foods. There's

526
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 1: probably other insects, and absolutely there's probably more like more insects,

527
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 1: more insects than that. So I don't know what I'm

528
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 1: getting on my high horse about with these figs. But again,

529
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 1: they've never eating a wasp before. These are so tiny,

530
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 1: they're like smaller than an ant. So I mean, like,

531
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 1: I'm not so fust if I eat an ant, so

532
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 1: I I'll still eat figs. So these types of fig

533
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 1: wasps actually do help the fig because they are pollinating

534
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 1: the fig plant. And so the relationship between the fig

535
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 1: and the wasp can be described as mutualism. The wasp

536
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 1: gets a nutritious nursery for its young, it gets a

537
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 1: great tomb to die in. I'm gonna say it could

538
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: be a little more mutual, like the fig could get

539
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 1: a bigger door, uh and the well. But because the

540
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 1: door is so small, it protects her young from potential predators.

541
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 1: And then the fig gets that sweet sweet pollination um.

542
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 1: And by the fig, you die by the fig exactly

543
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: it is. It's the code, the code of the wasps.

544
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:53,879
Speaker 1: So the fig is targeted by multiple pollinator wasps. And

545
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:58,439
Speaker 1: so once inside the fig, the newly hatched wasps can

546
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 1: actually mate with one another like they just they're like

547
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 1: they're in there and they're having a good time. Um.

548
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 1: And once they are done having an orgy inside the fig,

549
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 1: the male wasps will actually start to chew their way

550
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 1: out of the plant. And apparently this whole ordeal of

551
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 1: chewing out of the plant is so hard they just

552
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 1: die and the females will literally use them as a

553
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 1: doormat on their way out of the fig. What what

554
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:35,320
Speaker 1: a life incredible right, you die climbing into this fig,

555
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 1: lay the eggs, all the half of the eggs hatch

556
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 1: and just die trying to chew their way out, and

557
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 1: the other half that do get out will just die

558
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:46,919
Speaker 1: flying into different things again. Live by the fig, die

559
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 1: by the fig. I think it's very is perfect hardcore.

560
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,839
Speaker 1: There are other types of fig wasps who aren't so

561
00:38:55,960 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 1: mutualistic with the fig. Instead of climbing inside and dying

562
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 1: like a chump, they inject their larva into the flesh

563
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: of the plant with a long ovipositors. So no ova

564
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 1: positor is like this long syringe that insects will or

565
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:16,320
Speaker 1: arthropods will use to lay eggs. They can sometimes even

566
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 1: um use other wasps galls in order to place their

567
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 1: own eggs without even pollinating the plant. So this brings

568
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 1: us to Apocrypto, the Apocrypto wasp genus, who are a

569
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:34,320
Speaker 1: bunch of species of wasps who have a very fierce

570
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 1: looking needle coming off their butt. Uh. And this thing

571
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 1: looks like a stinger, like this really long menacing stinger,

572
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 1: but it's it is an ovipositor um. It lays eggs,

573
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 1: and yet it is actually extremely menacing. So it can

574
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 1: be over twice the length of the wasps body. They

575
00:39:55,320 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 1: can't bring it onto an airplane, no uh, And it

576
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 1: has to be yeah, So it's like it's like it's huge.

577
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 1: It's like way over twice the length of the wasp body.

578
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 1: And it has to be this long to be able

579
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 1: to pierce the thick flesh of a fig and to

580
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 1: find its target. And it's also very thin, so it's

581
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 1: very long and thin. It's like a fifth the diameter

582
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 1: of the average human hair, and it is highly flexible.

583
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 1: And so for something like this to actually be able

584
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 1: to like drill into a fig, it has to be

585
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 1: really extremely tough because it is so tiny, so to

586
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 1: be tough enough for the job. Some species of these

587
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 1: wasps have been found to have metal in their ovipositors.

588
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 1: So researchers at the Indian Institute of Science and Bangalore

589
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 1: found that the wasp syringe tip is plated in zinc

590
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 1: to keep it sturdy and durable. And when you look

591
00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 1: at like microscopic images of it, it really looks very

592
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 1: like a tool of torture. Uh, it's look at it

593
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,320
Speaker 1: under a microscope and it's literally just taped to switch blades.

594
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 1: I mean, you're not too far from the truth. So, uh,

595
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 1: the ovipositor drills into the flesh of the fig with

596
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 1: these two teeny tiny sharp zinc enforced serrated blades which

597
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,479
Speaker 1: move back and forth again like together to like sort

598
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:31,240
Speaker 1: of stab walk into the flash of the fig. And

599
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,839
Speaker 1: this allows the wasp to slowly sometimes it takes them

600
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 1: up to an hour, uh, stab their way through the tough,

601
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 1: unripe fig. It's my favorite form of exercise is a

602
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 1: nice frisk stab walk stab. That's how. That's how like

603
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 1: Freddie and Jason like get there, get their exercise, you know,

604
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 1: get the cardio. You gotta get that cardio, you know.

605
00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 1: Um and I would love that, like so you know how,

606
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 1: like celebrities will release their like workout tapes like what

607
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:08,919
Speaker 1: out with with Jason twelve machete twelve machete swings, three

608
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 1: rips right right, we have fun here, but it's all

609
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 1: about health as he's stabbing a teenager. Um. So there

610
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 1: is also some research that suggests that certain apocryptos species

611
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 1: can use their metal butt syringe also as a nose

612
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 1: to sniff out where the larva of other wasps live,

613
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 1: so they can lay their eggs on a pollinator wasps

614
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 1: larva where her young will eat the other babies. And

615
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 1: uh yeah, so it's like they've got this like ovipositor

616
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:45,760
Speaker 1: that's sensitive to carbon dioxide and so it may actually

617
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 1: be able to like detect the breathing of these other

618
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:54,320
Speaker 1: babies and then like drill down with its metal plated

619
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:57,840
Speaker 1: tip and then deposit the egg on these other larva

620
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 1: and then that egg hatches and matures more quickly and

621
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 1: then eats these So this this is kind of the

622
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,879
Speaker 1: this wasp is kind of the scumbag wasp. Yeah, that's

623
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 1: the vibe I'm getting pretty much. I mean, you can

624
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 1: really like the difference in sort of lifestyles is quite stark,

625
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 1: where you have these wasps that are quite uh self punishing,

626
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 1: where it's like I'm gonna squeeze myself to death into

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Speaker 1: this fig, lay my eggs, die my offspring, We'll go

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Speaker 1: find other newly hatched wasps inside the fig and then

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Speaker 1: the males will like become dead doormats for the females,

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Speaker 1: who themselves go out only to squeeze themselves into a

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Speaker 1: fig and dies, and then this other one's like, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna stab this fig. I'll find your baby stab that too,

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00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 1: and then my baby will eat your baby. Yeah, it's

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00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 1: way less work, man, You should try it my way.

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Speaker 1: I kind of imagine these like other wasps with their

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Speaker 1: with their SUVs driving around with a bumper sticker of

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Speaker 1: like my child would eat your child, My child ate

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Speaker 1: your child. Well, before we go, Tom, we got play

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Speaker 1: a little game. It's called the Mystery Animal Sound Game.

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Speaker 1: Every week I pick a mystery animal sound and you

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Speaker 1: the listener, and you the gifts, trying to guess who

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Speaker 1: is squawking. So, last week's mystery animal sound hint was

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Speaker 1: this up up up, I messed up. Sorry. The last

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Speaker 1: week's mystery animal sound hint was this is one cool chick.

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Speaker 1: Uh So, Tom, who do you think is squawking? There?

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Speaker 1: Baby penguin? You are correct, That is absolutely all right.

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Speaker 1: It is a baby Emperor penguin. Congratulations to Anti, be,

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00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:11,359
Speaker 1: Ozzie and gin w who all gets correctly. The fastest.

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00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 1: Baby penguins will make this sound to get their parents

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00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 1: to feed them freshly regurgitated fish. A baby when I

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00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 1: want vomit fish sticks into my face just how you

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00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 1: like them, So you don't have to show I like

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00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:34,360
Speaker 1: him the way I like him like you know, you

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00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 1: know what you like. So baby penguins must survive extreme

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Speaker 1: frigid temperatures and are covered in a fluffy down that

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00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 1: helps trap heat Emperor Penguin's huddle for warmth and large colonies.

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00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 1: The gentle pushing and shoving in the huddle creates a

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Speaker 1: wave of penguin bodies and a rotation which allows penguins

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Speaker 1: to cycle through being in the toasty center, giving everyone

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00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 1: a chance to warm up. So it's basically a fluffy

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Speaker 1: cyclone of penguins all managing to sort of whirlpool into

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Speaker 1: the center and then getting shoved out. It's like a

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Speaker 1: mosh pit, but sudhit. I want to be in a

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Speaker 1: mosh pit with baby penguins to man, I dominate. I

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Speaker 1: just kick those penguins, swinging my wallet chain or any

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00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 1: incredible Happy Tom goes to penguin moshpit parentheses and he wins, Yeah, man,

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00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 1: dominate those penguins. I've never been more sure of anything

668
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 1: in my life. Would not be hard to dominate baby penguins.

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Speaker 1: Just trying to tap dance, just cute little like Elijah

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00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:57,919
Speaker 1: Wood's penguin tap and dance, and Tom just like kick

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00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 1: them punts them right into the water. Listen, man, that's

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00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 1: how I do. When you feel, when you start feeling

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00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 1: that music, when you start feeling in music, you start

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00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 1: kicking in penguin, you start kicking penguins, un penguins. Now

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00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 1: where this is all in jest. It's all in jest.

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00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 1: If anyone like took us seriously, as like bought plane

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00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 1: tickets to go to the Arctic, it's like, while I

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00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 1: gotta go down in the Antarctic, beat up some emperor penguins.

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Speaker 1: Don't do it. No, you spent a lot of way

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00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 1: too much money on this bit, if you, um so,

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Speaker 1: you said that was last week's clue that is, and

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Speaker 1: now we're going on to this week's Mr Animal sound.

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Speaker 1: Here is the hint. It says, if this little guy

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Speaker 1: has stolen the voice of another animal, huh is it

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Speaker 1: a parrot? Interesting? That's a no, And he guesses I'm

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00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 1: trying to think he said stolen the voice of another animal? Um,

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00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 1: I already said parrot. Ah. I don't know, man, what

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00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 1: else mimics? I don't have a deep enough knowledge of

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Speaker 1: the animals. Wait, don't why did I have you on

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00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 1: this podcast? I don't know. I don't know anything. You

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00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:37,840
Speaker 1: didn't you didn't study for the quiz and you're not

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00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:44,840
Speaker 1: wearing pants. Well that's just my normal sunday. Um. I

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00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 1: don't know. Is it is it? Is it some kind

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00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 1: of is it something? Like? Something in my mind is

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00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:54,839
Speaker 1: being like, oh, it's probably something scary. That's like trying

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00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 1: to sound like it's cute. I don't know why my

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00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 1: brain is thinking that. I guess because because of the

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00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 1: episode we just had. Uh if it's so, it's I'm

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00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 1: thinking it's like some kind of horrible bug. It's like

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00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 1: trying to trick things. Yeah, well that's interesting. Interesting. I'm

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Speaker 1: not going to tell you because you'll have to find

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Speaker 1: out on next week's episode of Creature Feature. That's how

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Speaker 1: I get you. That's how I get you. That's how

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00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 1: you get the the stab walk hooks in. That's how

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00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 1: I stabbed people with my ovipositor. I should get I

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00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 1: should go to jail for saying that. I almost said.

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00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:40,839
Speaker 1: I almost said that, and that's why I started right.

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Speaker 1: You didn't want to go to that. I feel like

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you could hear of and in

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00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 1: the background, I just heard like a Carabinieri siren and

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00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 1: it's like, well, there I go, go to Italy jail. Yep,

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00:49:54,120 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 1: they heard me. Well, Tom, thank you so much for

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Speaker 1: joining me today. Yeah, no, thanks for having me on

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Speaker 1: this fun. Can you tell the people where they can

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00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 1: find you? Sure? I have a Patreon. It's a podcast

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Speaker 1: network that I co host with my buddy Dave Bell.

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00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 1: We're both ex crack folks, like Katie. That's patreon dot com,

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Speaker 1: slash game fully unemployed, that's g A M E f

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Speaker 1: U l L Y unemployed. We do all sorts of

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Speaker 1: shows and stuff over there with a bunch of other

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Speaker 1: of our friends. So give that listen, do it. That's it.

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Speaker 1: That's all I got. It's very good sometimes when I'm

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Speaker 1: on there and I like to absolutely derail their show

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Speaker 1: and it's very funny. I appreciate you didn't return the favor.

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Speaker 1: It was very nice of you. I think it would

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Speaker 1: have been worse if Dave had been here too. The

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00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:46,840
Speaker 1: episode would have been twice as long. We make a

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Speaker 1: game out of it on like Alex's show. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is a lot of fun. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, it's

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Speaker 1: great to have you on UM. And hey people, if

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Speaker 1: you think you know the answer to the Mr Animal

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00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 1: sound game, or you have a question, or you want

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Speaker 1: to show me pictures of your wandering meat loaf. Wait, no,

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Speaker 1: don't do that. That is not an indication. No sirens

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00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 1: are starting up again. Wow, I'm going to jail for

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Speaker 1: two times. UM. Now you can email me at Creature

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Speaker 1: Feature Pod at gmail dot com. Please don't send me

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Speaker 1: emails of your wandering meat loave. I don't want to

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00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 1: see it. Um. But yes questions, yes to questions, yes

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Speaker 1: to cats or dogs, and yes to answers to the

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00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 1: Mr Animal sound game. And thank you so much for listening.

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Speaker 1: If you leave a rating, a review, I will be

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Speaker 1: eternally grateful. I'll print it out, rub it all over

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Speaker 1: my face, chew on it. Just really, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean, into it like a phone book, right exactly.

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Speaker 1: Take a big old bite out of it. Uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: with my big old metal teeth. And thanks to the

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Speaker 1: Space Classics where they're super awesome. Song exo Luminous Creature

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Speaker 1: features of production of I Heart Radio. For more podcasts

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Speaker 1: like the one you just heard, visit the I Heard

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Speaker 1: Radio app Apple Podcasts or Hey, guess what, Wherever you

752
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 1: listen to your favorite shows, even if you shove your

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00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 1: face against a wandering meat loaf, and that's how you

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00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 1: do it. I don't I don't care, I don't judge.

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Speaker 1: See you next Wednesday,