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I got up this morning 12 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: and I got on the old treadmill nine incline, four speed, 13 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 1: a little sweat. 14 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 4: What are you like a rock climber? 15 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: Now at the Steak so and Sports Center came on 16 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: what's that? And long before they got to the Dallas 17 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 1: Cowboys story, they showed the Indiana Fever and the New 18 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: York Liberty playing and Caitlin Clark didn't play, and I 19 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: was in I thought the highlights were very engaging New 20 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: York one. Obviously without Caitlin Clark they're not a very 21 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: good team. Whether they're a very good team, they're not 22 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: great and terrible. They're very good and not very good 23 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: without her, but it's interesting. So the numbers finally came 24 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: out on the w NBA All Star Game without Caitlin Clark. 25 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: She was injured. So it got two point two million viewers. Now, 26 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: that was down from last year's three point four that 27 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 1: had Caitlin Clark, but that wasn't the story we knew 28 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: it would be down. The story was even without Caitlin Clark, 29 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: it was. 30 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 3: The second highest rated. 31 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: WNBA All Star Game ever, and that is a huge 32 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: point of distinction. 33 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 3: Two things are clear. 34 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: If Caitlin Clark plays in the All Star Game, it 35 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: will set records. But now because of her popularity, even 36 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: if she doesn't, it will break records and be the 37 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: second highest ever, only beaten by the time she played 38 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 1: in it. 39 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 3: And that matters. 40 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: That's why the women, despite you guys not liking the 41 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: t shirts they wore paysuois. That's why the women have 42 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: the leverage. And this is what Tiger Woods did to 43 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 1: the PGA tour. Yes, Tiger made the most money, but 44 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: he raised the purses in all tournaments and made a 45 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: lot of people rich. 46 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 3: That was the key. 47 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 1: So this All Star rating is proving despite losing a 48 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: million viewers from last year is that she has risen 49 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 1: the entire league. 50 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 3: This league is now a. 51 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: Topic on all sports shows, on all sports networks. I'm 52 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: watching the highlights this morning, comes right before the Cowboys. 53 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: So and people say, well, the last twenty five years, 54 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 1: it's lost money, guys, any of you guys business people. 55 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 3: That doesn't matter much. 56 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 1: You don't even have to make a profit to sell 57 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: your company for millions and millions of dollars. I use 58 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: the example of the Athletic being purchased by the New 59 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 1: York Times. It was losing forty five million a year, 60 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 1: and they're very happy today because it breaks more stories 61 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: than any sports section probably of my life. It's very 62 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 1: relevant the Athletic. It's not real profitable, but it adds 63 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: scale to the New York Times. So it's a great investment, 64 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: very worthy investment. And this is the point all negotiations 65 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: in business in all sectors. It could be tech, it 66 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: could be media law, it doesn't matter. Are all about timing. 67 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: The WNBA is hot and the contracts up. Now, if 68 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: the contract would have been up one hour before Caitlin 69 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: Clark was drafted, that's a different ballgame. You'd be projecting 70 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: on something you didn't know. But now we have numbers. 71 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: Now we have two back to back all Star ratings 72 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: sets a record and even if gone highest in nineteen 73 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: years except for the one game wh her that set 74 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 1: the record. And here's the other thing is that this 75 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:23,039 Speaker 1: is not a woke opinion. Is that league valuations for 76 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:26,239 Speaker 1: all these investors have increased in one year one hundred 77 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: and sixty eight percent. 78 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 3: That's not the fever. 79 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 1: The fever with Caitlin's evaluation has got up two hundred 80 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: and seventy three percent. The rest of the teams on 81 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: average have risen by one hundred percent or one hundred 82 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 1: and sixty eight percent, and all of them at least 83 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: one hundred percent. So if you're an investor, the contracts up, 84 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: you're negotiating, and your investment's gone up one hundred percent 85 00:04:55,680 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 1: in the last year minimum average is one hundred sixty 86 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 1: eight percent, you're selling it. I'll give you an example 87 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: is that in the last year the Bay Area San Francisco, 88 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: Bay Area has had a franchise, an expansion franchise. They're 89 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: using the Warriors Arena. They sell out all their home games. 90 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: That's not about Caitlin Clark. So some of you guys 91 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: out there on the internet. You know, you're epidemiologists, you're 92 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 1: experts in politics. 93 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 3: You're not very good business people. You're all caught up 94 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 3: on well, the previous. 95 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: Twenty five years. They're hot now and the negotiations are 96 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 1: currently in session. The girls have the leverage. 97 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 5: Now. 98 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: Would I have worn the T shirts now? It's silly, 99 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 1: But who cares. It doesn't matter here or there. It 100 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:51,239 Speaker 1: just doesn't matter. It's something that people like media people 101 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 1: talk about. It has no impact. What has impacts or 102 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: those All Star ratings, the merchandise sales explosion, the ticket 103 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: sale explosion, the TV rating increases, and more than anything, 104 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 1: the valuation of the franchise explosion, and not just the fever. 105 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 1: And so they have leverage. They've got leverage. All negotiations are. 106 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 3: Just timing, you know. It's it's. 107 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 1: I'm sitting there looking this morning, I'm watching the highlights, 108 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 1: and I'm like, you're kind of telling on yourself if 109 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: you're like, they don't the other argument I hear, that 110 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: doesn't make a bit of difference. Well, she's the only 111 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 1: player that's changing it. Well, the All Star ratings prove 112 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: that's not true. She didn't play in the ratings were 113 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: still up. But even if she was the only player, 114 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: there were a lot of kind of popular golfers. There 115 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: was only one guy outside of Augusta. Augusta drives its 116 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: own rating regardless of who's playing. It's higher when you 117 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: have a star like a Rory McElroy winning or Mickelson 118 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: or Tiger winning. But the truth is golf exploded and 119 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: Tiger Wood's overwhelmingly singular. 120 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 3: He drove the rating. 121 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 1: Who cared if you were a network and went in 122 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 1: to negotiate and you said, well, I'm not going to 123 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: pay that much for golf. 124 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 3: I mean, the only guy driving the ratings is Tiger. 125 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: And the PGA said, well, this is the beginning of 126 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: a twelve year run with Tiger. Do you want Tiger, 127 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: here's what you have to pay, NBC, here's what you 128 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: have to pay, ESPN or CBS. 129 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 3: You can say you've only. 130 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: Got Tiger, Well that's enough because he'll play all the majors. 131 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: Well you've only got Caitlin Clark. Well she'll be in 132 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: the All Star Game, she'll be in the playoffs. We'll 133 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 1: put her on TV thirty to thirty eight games. I mean, 134 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: so well, it doesn't do as well without her. Yeah, 135 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: and tournaments without Tiger didn't do as well, but the 136 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: whole sport was elevated. So I think she. I think 137 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: the women have the leverage here, not the business investors. 138 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: And I have used this example more than once over 139 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: the last week. I own a podcast company. If I 140 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:02,679 Speaker 1: had a podcast for five years and that lost money 141 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: for four and a half years, and six months before 142 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: the end of the contract, they added somebody to the 143 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: podcast and the ratings exploded, I would re sign that podcast, 144 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: even though four and a half years they lost me money. 145 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: If I had a podcast that made a fortune for 146 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: me for four years, somebody great left and it went 147 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: into the tank, I probably wouldn't give a new contract, 148 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: even though it was much more lucrative. It's all about timing. 149 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: It's all about now, and right now the WNBA is hot. Well, 150 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: Caitlin Clark, she's got to play for ten years. You 151 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: got ten years a price the worst she's ever gonna be. 152 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: So I think they have all the leverage or most 153 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 1: of the leverage. Now. They're not gonna make fifty percent 154 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 1: of revenues like guys. They're not because it is more 155 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:45,319 Speaker 1: one person dominated. But they're they're gonna get. 156 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:45,559 Speaker 3: They're not. 157 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: They're never gonna sign another contract making only nine percent 158 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 1: of revenues. 159 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 3: That's not gonna happen. 160 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 1: They'll get somewhere between twenty five and thirty five, and 161 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:53,719 Speaker 1: that's reasonable. 162 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 3: By the way. 163 00:08:56,440 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: Another Pittsburgh Steeler hammering on the culture. First it was 164 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: Nasee Harris. Now it's George Pickens. Here, here's George Pickens. 165 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 6: Probably one of the best coaches I've ever had around. 166 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:13,559 Speaker 6: Definitely a size like Kirby Smart and a lot of 167 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 6: other legend coaches that I played for. But his energy, 168 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 6: like you said, his energy is like one of one. 169 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 6: I think I needed a first start, just in terms of, 170 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 6: like you said, people not knowing me. I'm definitely excited 171 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 6: to run better plays for sure. 172 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. Interesting for the record fewest games with four hundred 173 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: plus total yards in the last four years, Pittsburgh's got six, 174 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: tied for the fewest with those unwatchable Patriot teams and 175 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 1: the Panthers. So I'm not saying all defensive coaches don't 176 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: get offense. 177 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 3: Dan Quinn. Dan Quinn hired Cliff Kingsbury. Home run. Dan 178 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:55,559 Speaker 3: Quinn hired Kyle Shanahan. 179 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 5: Home run. 180 00:09:56,559 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: Some defensive coaches. Dan Quinn's one of them. No offense 181 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:04,199 Speaker 1: or know what they don't know? The Steelers offense in 182 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: the last six seasons. I'll put it in the screen. 183 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 1: I'm not reading all of it for the radio audience. 184 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: I apologize. That's a lot of numbers. It's bad, like 185 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: bottom of the league. And when you consider that they've 186 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: got better players. I mean, this is Pittsburgh that's got 187 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: a good roster, meaning their defense puts their offense in 188 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 1: a better field position. 189 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 3: So think about that. 190 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 1: To be twenty eighth, twenty ninth and last in the 191 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: offense in the last six years with Pittsburgh's defense, right, Like, 192 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: you can take more chances on offense when you have 193 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:36,679 Speaker 1: a great defense, you can open up the playbook when 194 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 1: you have better field position thanks to your defense. And 195 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 1: it's still horrible. So just throwing it out there. Not good. 196 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 1: And I've said this, if forget the NFC, if you 197 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:53,439 Speaker 1: just gave me the AFC power rankings, I just ranked 198 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: the ten most viable playoff teams just in the AFC. 199 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: Where would I have Pittsburgh, Well, I'd have Buffalo, Kansas City, 200 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 1: Baltimore Chargers, Broncos. By the way, really like all the 201 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 1: quarterbacks Texans Bengals six and seven star quarterbacks. Patriots Titans 202 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 1: I think will be the two most improved teams in 203 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 1: the league, both with coaches that get offense. And I'd 204 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 1: have Pittsburgh ten. Why they can't figure out their own line. 205 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 1: They lost Pickens and Najie Harris and their left tackle. 206 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: I would have them tenth in the AFC, and by 207 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: the way, above them, I would have Josh Allen Mahomes, 208 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:44,319 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, Justin Herbert, Sean Payton, C. J. Stroud, Joe Burrow, 209 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 1: Vrabel and I think cam Ward is going to shock 210 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: people how good he is in Tennessee. Jay Mack, you're 211 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,559 Speaker 1: looking at me with a level of shocked dismay. 212 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 7: Wait a minute, old Gowhard listen, we both like cam Ward. 213 00:11:58,120 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 7: We're bullish on the Tennessee Titans. 214 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:03,239 Speaker 4: To have the ninth in the A ahead of Miami. 215 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 4: Well healthy Miami. 216 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 3: Don't you have Don't you have Tennessee in the playoffs? 217 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 7: I mean I had them as like a fringe team 218 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 7: because of their division. 219 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 4: Well, tower ranking is different though. 220 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 3: Tower rankings now time out, time out. 221 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 1: If you have them as a fringe playoff team, that's 222 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 1: about ninth. 223 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 4: Well, the difference is you can be eight. 224 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:23,239 Speaker 7: To nine in that division and get to the playoffs, 225 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 7: whereas Miami could be winning ten games and stilled you. 226 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,839 Speaker 1: I've told you, I've sold my Miami stock. I think 227 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,719 Speaker 1: they I think they're bad. I think the Jets have 228 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:34,679 Speaker 1: a chance to finish third. I think the Mike McDaniels tua. 229 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 1: I don't like their roster. Their a line left tackle retired, 230 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey gone. 231 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 4: And I got to ask Trevor Lawrence. No love for 232 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 4: the Jags. 233 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 7: He's got a new head coach, they got Travis Hunter, 234 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 7: they got the young kids. 235 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: Oh wow, we're good. I'm doubting Jacksonville. What a hot take. 236 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 1: I'm doubting Jacksonville delivers. I've been begging them to deliver 237 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: for four years with Trevor Lawrence out on Miami and 238 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: out on the Jags. 239 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 4: You don't like these warm weather Florida teams. 240 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 7: What about the low tax situation in Florida. Shouldn't they 241 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:10,239 Speaker 7: be getting a lot of great free agencies. 242 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 1: I don't, By the way, I don't see any part 243 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: of this. I think Cincinnati and the Texans are good, 244 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:19,839 Speaker 1: but I don't think they're great. I think there's five 245 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: teams that can be great in the AFC bill Chief Ravens, Chargers, 246 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: Broncos can be great. Then it's a series of improved 247 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: or limited Texans, Bengals, Patriots, Titan, Steelers. 248 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 7: Just humor me here, didn't the Raiders like, weren't they 249 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 7: competitive last year? 250 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 4: I think they won seven games. 251 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 7: You're telling me the Raiders aren't gonna be better than 252 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 7: the Titans and Steelers. Upgrading at coach, upgrading at coordinator, quarterback. 253 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 1: I think it's inches, not feet. I would do Raiders 254 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 1: at eleven. 255 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 4: Where the Jets out out of the sixteen. 256 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 3: Near the bottom. Okay, no reason to pile on. 257 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 7: No, no pile on away. I'm gonna be quiet. I'm 258 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 7: a zip it locket, put it in my pocket, and 259 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 7: then he for the moment that Justin Fields takes over 260 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 7: and that Jets suddenly are like six and three and 261 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 7: we have a glimmer of Okay. 262 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 2: Okay, one more heard. The Herd streams twenty four hours 263 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 2: a day, seven days a week within the iHeartRadio app. 264 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 2: Search Herd to listen live or on demand whenever you like. 265 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 8: Hey, We're Cavino and Rich Fox Sports Radio. 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Listen to over Promised 292 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 9: with Cavino and Rich on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts 293 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 9: or wherever you get your podcasts. 294 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 1: By the way, old Jmack told me before the show, 295 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: he said, where are you getting your information on Penn State? 296 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 3: Man, to put a little money down on the Nittany. 297 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: Lions, I would strongly advise you to do it on 298 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: your DraftKings account. I think they are playing for the 299 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: national championship. The last team to have a running back 300 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: duo this good was Georgia when they had Sony Michelle 301 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: and Nick Chubb. Penn State's backfield is an absolute first 302 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 1: round running back and maybe a second round running back 303 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: and or maybe it's two seconds, but at first round quarterback. 304 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: Excellent o line. And they poached the Buckeyes defensive coordinator. 305 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 4: Ohio State last year. 306 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 7: The two running backs they had Henderson and what's his face. 307 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 4: Both got drafted. 308 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 3: That's a good point. They're good there. 309 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 4: The other guy very Jenkins. Yeah, they were excellent. 310 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 5: Yeah. 311 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 3: Now back to back years. It's the Big Ten. 312 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 1: It has the dominant backfield, not the SEC. It's a 313 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: better conference right now at the top. 314 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 3: J Mack with the. 315 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 2: News, this is the herd line news. 316 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 7: Let's start really quickly with the NBA because we got 317 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 7: to introduce Marcus smartt newest Laker met with the media 318 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 7: Colin and guess what. Luka Doncic was leading the recruiting 319 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 7: charge on Marcus Smart. If you don't love this, you're 320 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 7: not a real Laker fan. Here's Marcus Smart talking about 321 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 7: Luca coming after him. 322 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 10: When you get a guy like Luca calling referencing, check, annoying, 323 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 10: try to see where you were at to see and 324 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 10: that if you want to come, you know, join something 325 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 10: special that he's trying to cook up over here. 326 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 9: That means a lot. 327 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:06,159 Speaker 10: You know, played against log a lot, I've been on 328 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:08,199 Speaker 10: a lot of pose and ends of uh, you know, 329 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:11,360 Speaker 10: Luca magic and uh. To be able to come out 330 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 10: and uh be on his side at this time, it 331 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 10: means a lot. I think we stack right up there 332 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:19,360 Speaker 10: with the best of them, you know, And I think 333 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 10: we can see when it was hotty. 334 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 3: I think there's no seawing. 335 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 10: I think if we all lock in at and come 336 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 10: and do we're supposed to do, we can have a 337 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 10: real good shot in it. 338 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 3: Well. 339 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 1: I like him, He's his body's been beat up because 340 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: he's such a great defensive, committed player. 341 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:36,880 Speaker 5: I like him. 342 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 3: I do like Marcus Smart. 343 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 1: It's interesting, you know who didn't call him. 344 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 7: Lebron, And you know, I'm trying not to get to upset. 345 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 7: Lebron's not in a good headspace right now. Clearly he's 346 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:50,479 Speaker 7: got some stuff going on. 347 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:51,160 Speaker 4: He's upset. 348 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 7: But once he gets out of this little malaise, this 349 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 7: summer funk, he's gonna be fine. I mean, seriously, calm 350 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 7: when they lock in, tell me it's with two better 351 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 7: players than Luca and Lebron on the roster, like. 352 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 4: You just can't find one right now. I'm sorry. They're 353 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 4: gonna be good. I think you need to get on board. 354 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 7: All right, Let's move on to another Los Angeles team, 355 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 7: The Rams. Not great news for your boy, Matt Stafford. 356 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 7: He's been limited this week in camp with a sore back. 357 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 4: Now we do need to end. 358 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:27,400 Speaker 7: He's going into year seventeen, Colin, Okay, and a few 359 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 7: years ago with the Rams, he got beat the hell 360 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 7: up in the pocket member, he was sacked a ton 361 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 7: of times, only played nine games. You gotta keep Stafford healthy. 362 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:37,639 Speaker 7: How do you feel about the offensive line, Colin? Because 363 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:41,640 Speaker 7: Stafford's thirty seven going into your He turned thirty eight 364 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 7: in February, right around the Super Bowl, and you. 365 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 4: Know you gotta look at it. He's getting a little 366 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 4: long in the tooth. There is Stafford. 367 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think what they're gonna do. They have two 368 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 3: first round picks. 369 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:54,640 Speaker 1: Ideally they would take a quarterback and if their pick 370 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 1: will be too good, to get a quarterback without giving 371 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 1: up the farm. But Atlanta's pick they have that not be. 372 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 1: But the first three positions they're gonna draft quarterback, offensive tackle, 373 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: and corner. They're pretty stout everywhere else. They're not looking 374 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 1: to bum rush him out. They would like to draft 375 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 1: a quarterback and have him sit because they want him 376 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: to play this year and next year, and they want 377 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 1: the young quarterback to sit behind him because Stafford has 378 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: such great work habits and such a cerebral approach of 379 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 1: the game. But I think they're resting him, and I 380 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 1: think they've done this three straight years. They're not looking 381 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 1: to get rid of him. They would like him to 382 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 1: be the starting quarterback this year and next. But I 383 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 1: do believe, and I know this, I got it source. 384 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 1: They're gonna go. They're gonna go big game hunting on quarterback. 385 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: The Rams are really smart. They saw this quarterback Clast 386 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 1: couple of years ago. There's three guys, maybe four if 387 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 1: ness Meyer hit to the LSU that are top ten, 388 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 1: top twelve capable quarterbacks, and I don't think there's a 389 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 1: wide gap. I think my take is Drew Aller right 390 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: now is the guy I would take one. But let's 391 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 1: watch ars Manning play. So they're gonna they're gonna draft 392 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 1: a quarterback without the need to play. That's their key 393 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 1: is they want to they they they don't want to 394 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 1: have to play him the first year, which would be 395 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: Matt's last year, probably as a ram. 396 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, all right. 397 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: Jmack with the news, Well that's the news, and thanks 398 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:18,919 Speaker 1: for stopping by the herd Line News. Well, I have 399 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: him in the National Championship Michigan Ohio State and I 400 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 1: think Penn State faces Texas for a Natty. I've said 401 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:28,640 Speaker 1: that multiple times on the air. James Franklin has won 402 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,160 Speaker 1: ten plus games and made a New Year Six Bowl 403 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:35,679 Speaker 1: game in three straight years. James, Oh, now you're the favorite. 404 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,680 Speaker 1: You got the best quarterback, you got the best backfield. 405 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:42,680 Speaker 1: I'd argue since Sony Michelle and Nick Chubb in the SEC, 406 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 1: it is interesting we always want these coaches like James 407 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:51,439 Speaker 1: Franklin to walk into a program and just start devouring people. 408 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 1: But the big ten I really believe this, James. I 409 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: think at the top it is better than the SEC, 410 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: and it has been for two years. You coached at Vandy, 411 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 1: now at Penn State. Do you believe that. 412 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 3: To be true? 413 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 5: Well? 414 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 11: I think the reality is we're part of that conversation now. 415 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 5: I think in years past, everybody was talking SEC SEC SEC. 416 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 11: And then after what we've been able to do the 417 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:20,400 Speaker 11: last two years, obviously, I think that's changed that conversation. 418 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:24,640 Speaker 11: So it's all based on perspective. Obviously, I got strong feelings. 419 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:27,399 Speaker 11: I know you have strong feelings, but we're part of 420 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 11: that conversation. 421 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 5: I don't think there's any doubt. 422 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:33,440 Speaker 1: So it's funny. I was talking to urban Meyer about 423 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: this two years ago. I watched Drew Aller and I'm like, 424 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: there's something there, but he's not he needs to be 425 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:41,400 Speaker 1: more refined. Then I watched him last year and went, 426 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 1: all right, he's going to be the number one pick 427 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 1: on my board. He made a big jump in accuracy. 428 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: Tell me what you saw in his improvement. I'm watching TV. 429 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,160 Speaker 1: I just see the ball comes out quicker and more accurately. 430 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 1: I don't get the game, I don't get the practice film. 431 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,400 Speaker 1: Where did he make the big jump to you? 432 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,159 Speaker 11: Well, it's probably going to be something that you just 433 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 11: didn't mentioned it. It's his athleticism and movements. He's six 434 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 11: foot five. He was two hundred and forty two pounds. 435 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:14,919 Speaker 11: He's now about two hundred and thirty two pounds. 436 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 5: I think the game of football has changed. 437 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 11: The old days of the pro style quarterback that's just 438 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 11: going to stand there and slinging around. 439 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:25,159 Speaker 5: That doesn't exist anymore. So a guy that's going to 440 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 5: be able to get one or two first downs a game. 441 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 5: It doesn't have to be a LeVar. 442 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 11: I'm not saying that, but you know, be able to 443 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 11: threaten people with his feet, his movements, his ability to 444 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 11: extend plays. He's always been a great decision maker in 445 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 11: terms of touchdown to interception ratio. And then what we 446 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 11: had to do is we had to go out and 447 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 11: get a few more wide outs and continue to develop 448 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,120 Speaker 11: the ones we had. Guys are going to make more 449 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 11: consistent plays for him on the outside. 450 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: I actually think the nil helps guys like you, Well, 451 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 1: you don't have to worry about your job. But let's 452 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: say Kenriley struggling at USC wins eight games again and 453 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: people start yelling in screaming. And my take is the 454 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 1: NIL helps coaches because you're asking boosters to raise fifteen 455 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: million dollars a year for players, They're not getting rid 456 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 1: of coaches and writing another fifty million dollar buyout and 457 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 1: then another fifty million for the next coach. Is that coaches? 458 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:22,919 Speaker 1: Initially some blanche at the NIL, And my take is, well, 459 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 1: these athletic departments have to raise so much money to 460 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:30,160 Speaker 1: retain players, they can't buy out coaches left and right. 461 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 1: Did you initially looked at NIL when it first arrived 462 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 1: years ago? Were you concerned about it? And if so, 463 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 1: where are you now with it? 464 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,439 Speaker 11: Yeah? I think everybody initially was concerned. I think in 465 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 11: theory nobody had a problem with it. I think, you know, 466 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 11: when you talk about the money that college football brings in, 467 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 11: not only for the conferences but for these campuses, the 468 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 11: players deserve a portion of that. 469 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 5: I don't think anybody ever had an issue with it. 470 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 11: The challenge, as you know, is is some programs have 471 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 11: more money than others. 472 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 5: So that creates some issues. 473 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,159 Speaker 11: I think some of the things that have happened in 474 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 11: terms of leveling the field is there's been programs that 475 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 11: have had a culture of giving for a long time 476 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 11: and they were able to transition in this world a little. 477 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 5: Bit faster than others. 478 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 11: But I actually would say the transfer portal has got 479 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:26,919 Speaker 11: as much of an impact on that as anything, because 480 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 11: if you let your coach go, and that coach is 481 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 11: connected and tight with the team in a way should be, 482 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 11: those guys can all go into the transferport You could 483 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,920 Speaker 11: lose fifty guys to go into the transfer portal by 484 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 11: making a coaching change, So I think that's impacted as 485 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 11: much as anything. 486 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:44,719 Speaker 3: You know, it's interesting. 487 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 1: I've been to Penn State's campus twice, the Nitney Lion 488 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,719 Speaker 1: in which by the way, has great free popcorn just 489 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 1: in case you ever go there coach. 490 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:53,160 Speaker 3: It's a great place to stay. 491 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:57,159 Speaker 1: And when I went there both times, I was taken 492 00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 1: by the fact that for about an hour until you 493 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 1: drive the there's nothing there and then this beautiful stadium 494 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 1: arrives and the campus is gorgeous. It's got great architecture. 495 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 1: But if you're looking for a city environment, so now 496 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 1: you have to recruit against maybe a. 497 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,400 Speaker 3: USC or an ann arbor, And I. 498 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,920 Speaker 1: Look at Penn State, and I'm like, when I went there, 499 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 1: I was like, Yeah, it's kind of remote, but it's fascinating. 500 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 1: It is such a unique community. Did you what sold 501 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 1: you on Penn State? Because you had a lot of 502 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 1: people coming after you at success at Vanderbilt. What separates 503 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 1: Penn State because you're recruiting has been phenomenal since you've 504 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 1: been there. 505 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 5: Well, I think a couple things. I think it depends 506 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:40,719 Speaker 5: on what you're looking for. 507 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 11: If you're looking for a city school, then obviously we're 508 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 11: not that. But you've been looking for a college town, 509 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,880 Speaker 11: we're kind of like the postcard for college town. It's 510 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 11: it's exactly what you're looking for. I grew up in 511 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 11: the state of Pennsylvania, grew up just outside of Philadelphia, 512 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:55,919 Speaker 11: so this is home for me. 513 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 5: It made sense. I understood the place. 514 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,920 Speaker 11: But yeah, if you're looking to be in whether it's 515 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,399 Speaker 11: Miami or whether it's Philadelphia, or whether it's. 516 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,120 Speaker 5: Atlanta, we're not that. 517 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 11: But if you're looking for a college town where everything 518 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:14,400 Speaker 11: revolves around the university and it's not just the football program, 519 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 11: we sell out one hundred and seven thousand fans in 520 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 11: every single game. We have over seventy thousand season tickets 521 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 11: sold out every single year. But it's also our women's 522 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 11: volleyball program. They're sold out on a Wednesday night they 523 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 11: just won the national championship. It's our soccer programs playing 524 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 11: on Tuesday night, it's sold out. 525 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 5: Obviously, what Kale has been able to do in wrestling. 526 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 11: So this is a place where football matters, the athletic 527 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 11: department matters, the university matters, and everything revolves around some 528 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 11: of these schools that are in cities. 529 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 5: They got a lot to compete with in state college. 530 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 11: It's football, it's the university, it's the athletic department. You know. 531 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,479 Speaker 1: So you guys were I think eighth in the country 532 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 1: and defense last year and then you go get and 533 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,880 Speaker 1: now you're bringing in Ohio State Jim Knowles offensive coordinator. 534 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 1: What is the balance between retaining what you did that 535 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 1: was highly successful last year one hundred and thirty Division 536 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 1: one programs you were eight, and now you bring in 537 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,639 Speaker 1: a different guy who has maybe a different vision. What 538 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: is the balance between doing a lot of what you 539 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 1: did that worked and his system. 540 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:22,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's that's a great point. 541 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 11: You know, last year, obviously, the game before the National 542 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 11: Championship game. And I had three new coordinators last year 543 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 11: offensive coordinator, DEFENSEI coordinator, Quescials career were all new, retained 544 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 11: the special teams coordinator, retained the offensive coordinator, and then 545 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 11: and then went out and was able to get Jim Knowles. 546 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,880 Speaker 11: All these discussions were not in a point where we 547 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 11: can afford to start over, right, Like, Jim. 548 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 5: You're coming here. We already got a really good foundation. 549 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 11: I've been fortunate every defensive coordinator that's worked for. 550 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 5: Me has had a top ten defense. 551 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 11: I think that obviously a lot of credit to those coaches, 552 00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 11: but it's also culturally kind of who we are and 553 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,919 Speaker 11: how we are operate. So Jim, you know, we're not 554 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,120 Speaker 11: asking you to come in and change what we do 555 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 11: and philosophically, we do a lot of things saying with 556 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 11: both our four down fronts. 557 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 5: We've been a tax style. We play man and zone. 558 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 5: So it fit for him as well. 559 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 11: So you know, what can stay the same, what needs 560 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 11: to change, and let's get rolling. 561 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 5: And he's done a really good job. 562 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 11: You know, obviously he's been a defensive coordinator for a 563 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 11: long time, he's been a head coach, he's been great. 564 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 1: Any good questions I should ask him I'm going to 565 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,439 Speaker 1: be a real journalist here, probing journalist. Well, what do 566 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 1: I ask Drew? Anything good? I should ask him? 567 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 11: Well, what I will say is, you're just gonna love him. 568 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 11: He's just he's a great person. He's obviously gotten better 569 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 11: each year. You look at kind of his recruiting journey, 570 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 11: it's different. 571 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 5: It's old school. He was not a high profile recruit. 572 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 11: I think it was a three star recruit when we 573 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 11: first started recruiting him. Ends up being based on what 574 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 11: rankings you look at, the number one recruit in the country. 575 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 11: It's gotten better every single year he's been on campus. 576 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 11: He's never look to leave, he's never leveraged anybody. 577 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 6: Uh. 578 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 11: He's what you want if you got the organization, whether 579 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 11: it's the NFL or college. He's the type of guy 580 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 11: you want lead an organization. It's about the team, it's 581 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 11: about you know, the community. Uh, he's the best. So 582 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 11: so you're gonna love him. I think you're gonna be 583 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 11: a big fan when you get to spend some time. 584 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 5: And that's the other thing I want to I want 585 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 5: to invite you. 586 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 11: Yeah, if you haven't been the Happy Valley in a while, 587 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 11: you talk about the ninty lion In. 588 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 5: We redid it. It's been gutted, it's brand new. You 589 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 5: need to come. You need to come for a game 590 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 5: this year. 591 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 11: Check it out. It's a special place. We'd love to 592 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 11: have you do your show from Happy Valley. We'd love 593 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 11: to have you. 594 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 3: That's truly. 595 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 11: You know. 596 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 3: Ryan Day did offer me that yesterday. 597 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 2: I like that. 598 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 1: James Franklin's recruiting me, baby, That's how he gets all 599 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 1: those good players. 600 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 3: It's great seeing you. 601 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 5: Thank you so much. Really appreciate the opportunity to be 602 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 5: on your show. 603 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 1: All right, James Franklin. Twelve year at Penn State. And 604 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 1: I got to tell you, folks, you look at k 605 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 1: Tron Allen on that backfield, and and Singleton and Drew Allard. 606 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 1: Drew Allard to me, when we show the highlights, that's 607 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 1: what a first round quarterback looks like. Just watch the 608 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 1: high when we roll the highlights and I'm doing this interview, 609 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 1: just watch it. Big, strong, moves, accurate like you don't 610 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 1: even need. These are the only plays that you ever 611 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 1: watch of him from the last couple of years. 612 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 3: Look at this play right here. Okay, that's a big 613 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 3: time throw. That's a seed. 614 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 1: That is that there are not ten guys in the 615 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 1: country the last two years that can make that throw. 616 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 1: So he's a big time player, big moves accurate. Now, 617 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 1: he did have war in the tight end that helped. 618 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 1: He helped him out a little bit. But he's making 619 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,719 Speaker 1: big time throws. All right, you know, j Mac, the 620 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 1: NBA season's done, We're gonna, We're gonna. 621 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 5: I'm gonna. 622 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 3: I was thinking about this. There's been a lot of movement. 623 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 1: Houston's better, Denver's good, and you know you're you're in 624 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 1: La now you're very close to West Hollywood in the 625 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 1: movie industry. 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Listen Over Promised with Cavino and 657 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 9: Rich on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you 658 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 9: get your podcasts. 659 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 7: On Sunday on Fox with a historic three peet on 660 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 7: the Line, can Alex Pollo become the fastest ever to 661 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 7: lock up an Indie Series championship, or will the Pack 662 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 7: hold him off at Laguna Seca. It all starts Sunday 663 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 7: at three Eastern only on Fox. 664 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 1: I thought James Franklin had a very interesting comment if 665 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 1: you listen very closely, when he talked about Drew Aller 666 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 1: and he said he never tried to leave us, and 667 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 1: he never tried to leverage us. You know who else 668 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 1: could have done that and didn't Arch Manning the one 669 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 1: quarterback whose dad stepped in and did that. Nico Iamaliava 670 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 1: went from Stack Tennessee to probably the ninth best team 671 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 1: in the Big ten UCLA doing his son an injustice. Yeah, 672 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 1: it's amazing. We've talked about this before. Dads are squeezing 673 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 1: so hard. Their intentions are good. Drew our No could 674 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 1: have made more money elsewhere. Arch Manning was playing backup. 675 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 1: He's more talented than quin Yours easily. Quin Yours got 676 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 1: drafted in the seventh round. Arch is going in the first. 677 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 1: Dads didn't step in and leverage it. It's like I 678 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 1: always say about the G League. Do you watch the 679 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 1: NBA finals this year? How many great G leaguers were 680 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 1: in it really that one year of money is not 681 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 1: worth going to Duke where all your games are on 682 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,720 Speaker 1: television and you can leverage it into a much better 683 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 1: shoe deal. 684 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 3: It's just amazing. 685 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,759 Speaker 1: I'm not saying Dad's intentions are bad, but the top 686 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,719 Speaker 1: two quarterbacks in my opinion, in this draft could have 687 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 1: leveraged the school didn't. Don't think nflgms don't see that. 688 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 3: I've said it. 689 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:33,879 Speaker 1: Quarterback Dad has become pageant mom. Intentions are good, Outcomes 690 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:37,840 Speaker 1: often aren't all right, j Mac, you know you always 691 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:42,760 Speaker 1: do Tomorrow's Headlines Today on Friday, where you predict the future. 692 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:43,720 Speaker 3: You're not the. 693 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 1: Only guy on this show that can predict outcomes. And 694 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,800 Speaker 1: sports and entertainment go hand in hand. So the recent 695 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:54,719 Speaker 1: NBA off season got me thinking about sports and entertainment, 696 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 1: and I have some upcoming attractions in the NBA. First up, 697 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 1: we have a new movie about the Clippers, adding some 698 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:08,800 Speaker 1: seasoned veterans. The movie for the Clippers is The bucket List. 699 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:13,320 Speaker 1: The league's oldest team has one more thing to check off. 700 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 1: The oldest team in the NBA last year just got older. 701 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 1: If they start Chris Paul Harden, Kawhi Batouman Lopez. Their 702 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 1: starting lineup would be thirty six and a half years 703 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:32,400 Speaker 1: old the bucket list. Up next, the Nuggets new film 704 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 1: could be a blockbuster. 705 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 3: We're calling it Here you Go. Winners. 706 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 1: Vetter supporting cast allows Jokis to go from Joker to Jordans, 707 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:54,760 Speaker 1: Bruce Brown, Cam Johnson, Tim Hardaway Junior. 708 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 3: Looks pretty good to me. 709 00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,120 Speaker 1: Never played with an All Star, but this is a 710 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 1: asked of depth and talent. The Nuggets now have the 711 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 1: third best championship title odds. 712 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 3: Next up we have the Houston Rockets. 713 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 1: They've gotten more star power in their film and the 714 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:24,000 Speaker 1: movie in Houston will be called Training Day. Hard nosed 715 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,760 Speaker 1: veterans brought in to carry a younger cast. It's Kad 716 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:32,719 Speaker 1: Dorian Finney Smith, one of the league's best three in 717 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 1: d guys Clint Capella. Very young team bringing veterans in 718 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:40,920 Speaker 1: second best title. 719 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:42,920 Speaker 3: I can't wait to watch Houston play by the way. 720 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,839 Speaker 4: Training Days amazing. One of my favorite Denzel movies ever. 721 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 1: Now from the Warriors, a sequel that nobody asked for. 722 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,319 Speaker 3: Taken Three. We get it. 723 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 1: You took all his friends and now Steph has to 724 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:05,239 Speaker 1: take all the threes. The only team that did not 725 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:10,280 Speaker 1: make any moves in the offseason. Steph is thirty seven, 726 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 1: Draymond's thirty five, Buddy Healed is thirty two, Jimmy Butler 727 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:19,920 Speaker 1: is thirty five. They have not advanced past the second 728 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:24,360 Speaker 1: round since winning the title in twenty twenty two. And finally, 729 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:30,560 Speaker 1: the new movie coming out for your Los Angeles Lakers, 730 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 1: Lebron realizes in horror this team is not his timeline. 731 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:36,280 Speaker 3: Get Out. 732 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 1: Marcus Smart and DeAndre Ayden are the additions Lebron expected 733 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 1: to retire after the season. 734 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 3: It's not even calling new Lakers. 735 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:57,040 Speaker 1: Get out coming to an NBA season in Los Angeles near. 736 00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 7: You, Jamon, That is excellent and shout out major props 737 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,040 Speaker 7: for that one. By the way, get Out, great movie. 738 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,000 Speaker 7: And I mean, you know, listen, Lebron, get Out. 739 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:07,440 Speaker 2: I like that. 740 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,880 Speaker 7: Well done, excellent five stars on that bad book. 741 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,319 Speaker 1: Thank you very much. By the way, we have Drew 742 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,360 Speaker 1: Aller coming up last hour. You know it is funny though, 743 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,200 Speaker 1: when James Franklin came on and it was just subtle 744 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:26,000 Speaker 1: about Drew Aller. Nobody tried to leave, Nobody tried to 745 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 1: use leverage. I tell my kids this all the time. 746 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:36,440 Speaker 1: Stop don't chase money. Chase management, chase situations, chase environment. 747 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,719 Speaker 1: It's amazing. This is why I say quarterback dads become 748 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:43,319 Speaker 1: pageant mom. All these quarterbacks bouncing around to get the 749 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,399 Speaker 1: best deal. Now, in some instance there's like a coach 750 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,839 Speaker 1: gets fired or there's a new coach that doesn't want you. Look, 751 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,759 Speaker 1: I understood, like like bo Nick's going to Oregon. Like 752 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 1: the thing at Auburn felt like it ran out. There's 753 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:56,760 Speaker 1: a lot of changes in chaos. He goes to Oregon. 754 00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:58,680 Speaker 1: That's different. I'm not saying you can't change. 755 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:00,880 Speaker 3: I listen. I've moved all over the country for jobs. 756 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:01,480 Speaker 3: I get it. 757 00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:08,560 Speaker 1: But Drew Aller and Arch Manning would have gotten more 758 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:12,680 Speaker 1: money leaving. I mean, I mean again, Texas has a 759 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:14,720 Speaker 1: lot of money, but they're paying a lot of players. 760 00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 3: But it's like. 761 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:21,959 Speaker 1: I understood Caleb Williams going from Oklahoma to USC because 762 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:23,600 Speaker 1: he was following an offensive coach. 763 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 3: It's like I get that, that move. 764 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:29,359 Speaker 1: I get Lincoln Riley is the best offensive coach at 765 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,439 Speaker 1: that time in college football arguably, Like I get that 766 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:37,280 Speaker 1: when James Allen, James Franklin said that it was very interesting. 767 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:40,520 Speaker 1: He didn't leverage it. It's like a cautionary tale. Nick 768 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:45,320 Speaker 1: iam Aliava when he was at Tennessee a great program. 769 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:49,319 Speaker 3: Nico is it? Nico? Yeah, he's fairy. I like him. 770 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,120 Speaker 1: He I very draftable player. I like him a lot. 771 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,799 Speaker 1: He's got a whip, He's a very good player. I'm 772 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:56,720 Speaker 1: not against the kid at all. I hope he does well. 773 00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:01,880 Speaker 1: But Tennessee's got better offensive lineman, better receiver. It's just 774 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:05,000 Speaker 1: a better football environment. You play against better athletes than 775 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:08,239 Speaker 1: the SEC. I think in that schedule you have a 776 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,160 Speaker 1: better home environment. 777 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:16,160 Speaker 7: I mean, here's my only thing with Drew. Where was 778 00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:19,160 Speaker 7: he gonna go? They got to the semifinals. It was 779 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:20,920 Speaker 7: a super close game. They easily could have. 780 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:22,879 Speaker 4: Been in a championship. He had a bad game. 781 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,480 Speaker 7: But if he actually took a second and looked at 782 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:29,719 Speaker 7: his improvement, Colin completion percentage fifty nine percent two years ago, 783 00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:33,080 Speaker 7: sixty six last year, and he went from a dink 784 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:36,000 Speaker 7: and dunk guy. Yards per attempt went from six point 785 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:37,160 Speaker 7: eight to eight point four. 786 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 4: So he is showing all the signs. 787 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,320 Speaker 7: I just I mean, I like to dig from Franklin 788 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,880 Speaker 7: clearly a shot at the SEC. I just don't know 789 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,959 Speaker 7: where he could have gone. Because you're right, the arrow 790 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:49,719 Speaker 7: is really pointing up for this kid. I don't know 791 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,279 Speaker 7: that there was a better landing spot for I mean, 792 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:53,719 Speaker 7: could he have made three million more? 793 00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:54,239 Speaker 5: Yeah? 794 00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:57,399 Speaker 1: Well, the nigo Io Maliova situation, I should take back 795 00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,840 Speaker 1: to be played against better teams. But Tennessee has better players. 796 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:04,640 Speaker 1: Nico Iamaldiava at practice would play against Tennessee players. I 797 00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,720 Speaker 1: always said this, if you play at Georgia or LSU 798 00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:12,080 Speaker 1: or Ohio State, you go against those players in practice. 799 00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,480 Speaker 1: Like if you're sitting there and you're the quarterback for 800 00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:18,640 Speaker 1: Ohio State, dude, you're going against NFL first round corners. 801 00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:20,520 Speaker 1: That's the advantage of a quarterback going to play at 802 00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:21,400 Speaker 1: these big schools. 803 00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:22,920 Speaker 3: Practice. 804 00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:27,120 Speaker 1: You're getting the best coordinators, and like Tennessee program, they 805 00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:30,040 Speaker 1: pay their coaches double what they pay Ucla. They've got 806 00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:33,800 Speaker 1: twice as many NFL bodies now the SEC and depending 807 00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:35,720 Speaker 1: on your schedule, who plays against better players. 808 00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:36,720 Speaker 3: But I wouldn't. 809 00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:38,400 Speaker 1: If I was a quarterback, I would go to Tennessee 810 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,799 Speaker 1: over Ucla. I would go to a big school if 811 00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:44,320 Speaker 1: I was offered, because just if nothing else, the facilities 812 00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:48,319 Speaker 1: and who I face in practice, I'm throwing to more 813 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:52,120 Speaker 1: NFL level tight ends, so it feels more like the 814 00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:54,480 Speaker 1: NFL at Tennessee than it does UCL. 815 00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:56,440 Speaker 4: Let me ask you, so a year ago, at this. 816 00:41:56,520 --> 00:42:01,200 Speaker 7: Time, everybody was talking about Carson Beck, the quarterback at Georgia. 817 00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,880 Speaker 4: Oh, he's gonna be the Heisman front runner, potential number one. 818 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:05,200 Speaker 4: Everybody loved him. 819 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,560 Speaker 7: He clearly regressed, obviously losing Lad McConkey and brought the powers. 820 00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:11,560 Speaker 3: He went for money, well he. 821 00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:12,800 Speaker 7: Did, but I don't think he was gonna be the 822 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,960 Speaker 7: starter of Georgia. He did, he got so much worse Colin. 823 00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:19,200 Speaker 1: Maybe he went to his head or whatever you could 824 00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:23,080 Speaker 1: argue Carson Beck. So I wouldn't have gone from Georgia 825 00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:26,280 Speaker 1: to Miami. But Ruiz, the big booster down in Miami, 826 00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:30,040 Speaker 1: paid him a fortune and maybe his takeaway, I mean 827 00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:33,440 Speaker 1: my takeaway as Carson Beck was overvalued. So he may 828 00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,760 Speaker 1: be in the right taking the money and he Manning 829 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:39,359 Speaker 1: and Drew Aller are bigger, stronger, better quarterbacks than Carson Beck. 830 00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,600 Speaker 1: Carson Beck may just be one of the And you 831 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,480 Speaker 1: see this a lot shandor Sanders. They're just going to 832 00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,919 Speaker 1: be really good at one level and they're not really 833 00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,279 Speaker 1: a top prof spect like Carson Beck is not a 834 00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:50,640 Speaker 1: first or a second round NFL. 835 00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,000 Speaker 7: Well a year ago, at this time, everybody was saying 836 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:54,920 Speaker 7: he was because he looks the part. He's like a 837 00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,719 Speaker 7: Justin Herbert. He's like six or four strapping, big dude, 838 00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:01,839 Speaker 7: huge arm. He's the prototypicalquarterback. So everybody thought, oh, he's 839 00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:03,719 Speaker 7: the next guy. And then he starts playing and it's 840 00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:07,640 Speaker 7: like he ain't the dude. I think, you know, Drew 841 00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:09,439 Speaker 7: kind of falls into that bucket at Penn State. 842 00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:14,920 Speaker 3: I'm telling you this is this quarterback draft class. If 843 00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:15,600 Speaker 3: you need one. 844 00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,160 Speaker 1: Cleveland's got two first round picks, Rams have two first 845 00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:21,120 Speaker 1: round picks. New Orleans is going to find out very quickly. 846 00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:24,040 Speaker 1: You know, Spencer Rattler is not the answer. I'm telling 847 00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,719 Speaker 1: you keep your right because Ala and Archmanning are going 848 00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:31,680 Speaker 1: to be good. I think the kid at Clemson really good. Yeah, 849 00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:36,640 Speaker 1: he is crazy productive. Now it is the ACC, but 850 00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:39,040 Speaker 1: that kid is crazy. He doesn't make any mistakes. He's 851 00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:43,360 Speaker 1: highly productive. Keep your eye on nuts Meyer at LSU. 852 00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:44,399 Speaker 4: I need to see more. 853 00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:47,439 Speaker 1: I'm sorry I do too, but but there's something there. 854 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,680 Speaker 1: He's definitely an NFL quarterback. What round, But if he 855 00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:53,640 Speaker 1: moves into a first round quarterback It is a stacked 856 00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:55,680 Speaker 1: NFL quarterback draft.