1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. 2 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 2: Oh so much for a team game. We'll get it 3 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 2: to that. It's just about a minute. Happy New Year 4 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 2: to everybody. This is Fox Football Sunday. He is Bucky Brooks. 5 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 2: I'm Andy Furman, and we're broadcasting live from the Fox 6 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 2: Sports Radio studios. And of course when you talk about football, 7 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:22,080 Speaker 2: you have to put this man's name right there. His 8 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 2: name is Bucky Brooks. I'm proud to say he's my 9 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 2: friend and partner. Happy New Year to you and your family. Fucky, 10 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 2: how are you? 11 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 3: I am great? Andy? What's going on? How you doing? 12 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,239 Speaker 2: Everything is rocking and rolling right now. And guess why. 13 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 2: Guess who's back? Patrick Sweek is back at least for 14 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 2: a day as our executive producer. He couldn't keep away. 15 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 2: The Little Dumper is back. 16 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: We back for a day. 17 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 3: Let's go, little dump. 18 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: Nice, little Dumper is back. 19 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 2: Good to have you. By the way, we have to 20 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 2: ask Bucky at the end of this hour. So if 21 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 2: you have any good questions for Bucke Brooks that includes you, 22 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 2: little Dumper, you could tweet at Bucky Brooks at Andy 23 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 2: Furman FSR, or even give us a call. 24 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: Eighty seven seven ninety nine one Fox. 25 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 2: Now, before we get into anything at all, before we 26 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 2: get into these games yesterday, because you're gonna listen to 27 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 2: talk shows all over the country. You're gonna listen to 28 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 2: local shows TV. They're gonna give you the games to 29 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 2: break down. There's a bigger story behind the curtain. I'm 30 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 2: gonna tell you right that. Let's discuss this. It said 31 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 2: well about football. We say football is a team game. 32 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 2: You played the game. There's no one better on God's 33 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 2: green Earth to talk about it than you because you 34 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 2: won the uniform. And we talk about teammates all the 35 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 2: time in a team game. But thanks to the portal 36 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 2: in college football, I'm watching the Liberty Bowl on Friday, 37 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 2: University of CINCINNTI quarterback Brendan Sorosby wasn't even there. It 38 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 2: wasn't in the lineup. He's opt out in that portal 39 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 2: and it looks like he's gonna go to Texas Tech. 40 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 2: That's the rumor right now. And as far as the 41 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 2: New York Football Giants are concerned, Theo Johnson, he was 42 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 2: at the Nick game on Friday night in Madison Square Garden. 43 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 2: He didn't practice all week long for the Knicks and 44 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:54,279 Speaker 2: guess what. He's not playing against the Dallas Cowboys today 45 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 2: and last night. I'm watching the forty nine ers wide 46 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:00,919 Speaker 2: receiver Ricky Piersol on the sidelines and tackle Trent Williams. 47 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 2: Please take off the sunglasses. He's on the sidelines. And 48 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 2: I'm saying, if you're good enough for the sidelines, you're 49 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 2: good enough to play. And I'm saying, teammates, what kind 50 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 2: of teammates team game? I don't think so you played 51 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 2: the game. I don't get it. You're going out there 52 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 2: to battle, You're going out there to war. I look 53 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 2: at the offensive and defensive lines on a football team 54 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 2: like a chain link fence. Now, if one guy is 55 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 2: not there, defense is broken. You know what kind of loyalty? 56 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 4: You know? 57 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 2: You talk about quarterbacks getting the offensive linemen like Christmas gifts, 58 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 2: and all of a sudden they're not going to play 59 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 2: and they're opting out. 60 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: Help me out here. 61 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 2: I mean, I am so disgusted with players where they 62 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 2: don't want to play and they just turn their back 63 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 2: on their teammates, especially this Brendan Sooresby guy. You know, 64 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 2: he's out there all year long busting his rear. End 65 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 2: they're blocking for this guy the big game of the year, 66 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:52,639 Speaker 2: the Liberty Bowl. He bolts tell me about this, How 67 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 2: does this happen? 68 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 5: Well, I think you had a lot of things wrapped 69 00:02:56,600 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 5: up into one. I think we have to separated for 70 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 5: Soarts be the quarterback for Cincinnati. The Porter opens up 71 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 5: on open up on January tewod the bowl game that 72 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 5: they're playing in is not one of major consequence. And 73 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 5: even though it is a selfish move, because he is 74 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 5: making a decision that is solely for him and not 75 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 5: for the team, I do understand when it comes to 76 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 5: the Porter and white guys are jumping in and opting 77 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 5: out or whatever. When it comes to the pros, and 78 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 5: I'm saying I'm adamantly opposed to those guys doing it 79 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 5: at the collegiate level or whatever, like you should rock 80 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 5: with your teammates at the pro level. I think it's 81 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 5: different because what you're dealing with when it comes to 82 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 5: Trent Williams or Ricky pearsall. 83 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 3: We don't know how injured they were. 84 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 5: Trim Williams had a hamstring that prevented him from playing 85 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 5: the last game, and so the carryover to this game 86 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 5: makes sense that you set him out because you have 87 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 5: to potentially play in a playoff game. Ricky Piarsol, I 88 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 5: don't know what the nature of the injury, but typically 89 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 5: because everything was riding on that game, those guys would 90 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 5: have played for the number one seed if they were 91 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 5: healthy and available to go. 92 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 3: THEO Johnson the. 93 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 5: New York Giants tied end that was called courtside at 94 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 5: the Nick game. It appeared that this wasn't his call 95 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 5: in terms of sitting out for the Giants, because he 96 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 5: talked about, look, I'm not sick or whatever that is, 97 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 5: but he's at the game, so that that appears to 98 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 5: be something that the team is going to have to answer. 99 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 3: Not a good look. Not a good look. No, not 100 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 3: a great look. 101 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 5: But it's not a great look if he's healthy and 102 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 5: wanting to play and they say no. I mean, I 103 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 5: can understand him wanting to live his life and go 104 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 5: to the game. I'm not preventing myself, but it does 105 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 5: make the organization look bad. If he's sick and can't practice, 106 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 5: but he somehow finds his way to the Nick game. 107 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 2: That's definitely I would say this, and maybe I'm mistaken, 108 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 2: but today the Cincinnati Bengals are playing, no mean, a 109 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,919 Speaker 2: meaningless game against the Cleveland Browns, a meeting list for 110 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 2: the Browns, meaningless for the Bengals. However, Miles Garrett has 111 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 2: a reason to play. Good break the the sack record 112 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 2: and Joe Burrow. You know, really and truly, this guy's 113 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 2: injury prone. He wants to play, you know. I give 114 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 2: him kudos for that. I credit him. He wants to 115 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,599 Speaker 2: play football, he loves the game. He has every reason 116 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 2: in the world to say, you know what, I'm shutting 117 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 2: it down. I'm shutting it down for safety purposes. But 118 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 2: he's not doing that. So when I hear these other 119 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:22,119 Speaker 2: guys playing for something, it's a big game. The forty 120 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 2: nine ers number one seed. They can fall right now 121 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 2: to the fifth or sixth seed, depending upon what the 122 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 2: Rams do. 123 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: Really, so, if you're a teammate. 124 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 2: And you played the game, you're in that locker room, Okay, 125 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 2: you see guys that kind of like dogging it a 126 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 2: little bit that they could have played. 127 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: How does that work? I mean, I'm sure you've seen that. 128 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:45,679 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, like you see it, But I don't. 129 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:50,359 Speaker 5: I can't say definitively that Trent Williams and Ricky Pearson 130 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 5: were dogging it. Like to me, that might have been 131 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 5: a mutual decision between them and the team to say, yeah, 132 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 5: you could play today, but if you play today, are 133 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:02,119 Speaker 5: you me a vail for the playoff game? Most teams 134 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 5: would opt to have their best players available for the 135 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 5: playoffs as opposed to the game, even though it's for 136 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 5: the number one seed at the end of the regular season. 137 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 5: That's just kind of how you think about it. So 138 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:15,919 Speaker 5: I wouldn't be upset with them if that's what this case. 139 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 5: Most of the time, guys won't get upset because the 140 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 5: injury is really on you, and most people say you 141 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 5: got to take care of you to do it. And 142 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 5: if it's something that is a hang nail, you know 143 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 5: that you physically can play through, well, then you look 144 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 5: at someone sideways if they don't play through it. But 145 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 5: those other things, hamstrings, needs, whatever it is that you're 146 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 5: dealing with, that's to your level of tolerance, and only 147 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 5: you know how much you can tolerate and contribute if 148 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 5: you're not fully healthy. 149 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: All right, we'll leave it at that. 150 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:48,359 Speaker 2: I mean, it's one that I get that off my 151 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 2: chest because you know, I'm looking at it as a fan. 152 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 2: I watch these games and I just say to these 153 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:54,679 Speaker 2: guys Canda, go out there and play. 154 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: I understand injury as part of the game. 155 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 2: But if you're like eighty percent, you still better well 156 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 2: playing and helping your teammates, and it's all about, you know, 157 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:05,479 Speaker 2: all for one, one for all deal. 158 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 5: Right, Well, the only thing about that is when you 159 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 5: are hurt and you play, everyone still judges you like 160 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 5: you were one hundred percent. So when you put yourself 161 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 5: out there, fans don't say, oh, he's heard, that's okay. 162 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 3: He didn't play well. 163 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 5: The year that Jameis Winston had thirty touchdowns and thirty interceptions, 164 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 5: he played through a broken thumb that he's probably shouldn't 165 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 5: have played through. No one remembers that he was playing 166 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 5: through an injury when he had to thirty interceptions. They 167 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 5: only talk about, well, he through thirty interceptions. 168 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 3: So when you play, you have to know that you're 169 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 3: going to be judged on the standard that you set 170 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 3: when you're healthy. 171 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:45,559 Speaker 5: No one is going to grade you on a curve 172 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 5: because you're healthy. Players have to take that in consideration 173 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 5: because people tend to forget, oh. 174 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 3: He was working through an injury when he ran out there. 175 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 5: When you run on the field, they expect you to 176 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 5: play to the standard that you've already established. 177 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: And thinker Mayfield's play through injury as well. 178 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 2: And that's why the winner of the NFC South is 179 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 2: gonna have a losing record because Tampa Bay yesterday they 180 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 2: have what an elimination with that sixteen to fourteen win 181 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 2: over Carolina. 182 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: So here's the deal. The Buccaneers are eight to nine. 183 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 2: They need the New Orleans Saints to beat or tie 184 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 2: Atlanta today to clinch a believe it or not, fifth 185 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 2: straight NBC title. Now, if the Falcons win today, the 186 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 2: Panthers eight to nine, will secure their first division championship 187 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 2: since gets this when Ron Rivera and Cam Newton led 188 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 2: them to a fifteen to one record and the Super 189 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 2: Bowl ten years ago. 190 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: Amazing, it's amazing. 191 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 2: At eight and nine, I mean, they're gonna have to 192 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 2: change the playoff format because it's not another words, it's 193 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 2: not a good look. Losing record going to the playoffs 194 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 2: winning the division doesn't look good. 195 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:48,079 Speaker 5: They may not look good, but it's an anomaly. You 196 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 5: don't overhaul the playoffs for that. Just like people want 197 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 5: to receive the playoffs based on well, this person their record, 198 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 5: this team's record is X, Y and Z, and they're 199 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 5: better than the division winner. Yeah, but they didn't win 200 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 5: the division. Division winners have to be recognized for something. 201 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 5: You have to give them a home game. There has 202 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 5: to be something that makes it. Otherwise, why have divisions. 203 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 5: What's the point of being in division if it brings 204 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 5: about nothing when you win the title. So they have 205 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 5: to have people. People have to quit whining about it. 206 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:19,599 Speaker 5: If you don't win your division, then you got to 207 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:21,079 Speaker 5: take your tail on the road and find a way 208 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 5: to win games the hardware. 209 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 2: I will say this, watching that game, I was really 210 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 2: impressed with Bryce youngcus I think he's coming into his 211 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 2: own Honestly, if you get to say a comparison here, 212 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 2: I think he outplayed Baker Mayfield. Bryce Young threw for 213 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 2: two sixty six Baker two oh three. And I'm watching 214 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:38,559 Speaker 2: these games right now. Was you come down the stretch 215 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 2: the last several weeks? You know what the key is? 216 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: I think? Anyway? 217 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 2: I know you could tell me if I'm wrong. I 218 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 2: think it's the running game. You're controlling the clock. You 219 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 2: have the ground game that can't pass in bad weather 220 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 2: or last night it was soaking rain, it was terrible. 221 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 2: You know, Bucky Irving where he ran for like one 222 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 2: hundred and four hundred and eighty five yards they outrushed. 223 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 2: Was it Tampa Bay out rushed Carolina one seventy nineteen 224 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:03,679 Speaker 2: That that's ridiculous. But you know Young threw for two 225 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 2: to sixty six. So if you have the run game 226 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 2: and a good defense, you're gonna win. And that's basically 227 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 2: what it's all about. 228 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 5: I mean, that's what it's always been about. People don't 229 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:15,319 Speaker 5: like to hear it, like we are fascinated with people 230 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 5: throwing the ball in those things, But if you're looking 231 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 5: at the way teams are winning, it is about running 232 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 5: the ball. So you can control the clock, you can 233 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 5: dictate the terms, you can protect your defense. It's part 234 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 5: of a complimentary football play where the offense, defense, special 235 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 5: teams work together to win games. 236 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:32,199 Speaker 3: That's how you win at the highest level. 237 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 5: The stats and stuff are fun, but really it's about 238 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 5: winning the games and doing what you need to do 239 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 5: to win the games. And a lot of times death 240 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 5: centers around the running game, defense, and then efficient quarterback 241 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 5: play in key moments. 242 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:50,439 Speaker 2: Well, you know, if the Carolina Panthers won that game 243 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 2: a day, that Panthers would have clinched the division title. 244 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 2: But because the Tampa Bay Bucks won the Saints Falcons 245 00:10:56,880 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 2: game today will now decide who wins the division. It's unbelievable, 246 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 2: it really is. And the Falcons are hot right now. 247 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 2: They beat the Rams Monday night was at twenty seven 248 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 2: to twenty four. So the Atlanta right now is seven 249 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 2: and nine. And it gets pretty it gets pretty screwed up. Really, 250 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 2: it really does. Real tight bad records, but close records. 251 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 2: That's the deal right there. 252 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 5: It's crazy, I mean, is definitely kind of nutty when 253 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 5: you think about bad records being able to go in. 254 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 5: Who is I mean, like, who's going to be allowed in? 255 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 5: How they are sneaking in the back door. But I 256 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 5: will say this, and coaches used to talk about it, 257 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,079 Speaker 5: no one cares how you got into the postseason. 258 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 3: When you get into the postseason, all bets. 259 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 5: Are off and your record is just like the team 260 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 5: that has the top seed. Everyone has an opportunity to 261 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 5: go the way, to go the distance, and you just 262 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 5: have to be hot for three games, you know, walk 263 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 5: out round, division, round, championship round. If you do those things, 264 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 5: you have a chance of going okay. 265 00:11:56,200 --> 00:12:00,199 Speaker 2: So the Panthers will clinch a the Vision title if 266 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 2: the Falcons beat the Saints. All right, So Baker Mayfield, 267 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 2: who now has to cheer for the Saints because a 268 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago he said he didn't like the Saints, 269 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:10,679 Speaker 2: he's gonna have the root for them today, right, And 270 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:14,199 Speaker 2: the Buccaneers will be cheering for the Saints because Tampa 271 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 2: Bay will win the division if New Orleans wins or 272 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 2: ties in that game. It gets pretty complicated there, so 273 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 2: we'll see what happens. But Atlanta's tight, I mean, they're tough, 274 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 2: they really are, So we'll see what happens over there. 275 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 2: I just, you know, I just don't understand how that 276 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 2: stuff could happen. But I'm gonna move to the second 277 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 2: game last night, and that was allegedly the big game. 278 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 2: And I'll ask you right now because you say that 279 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 2: Kyle Shanahan should be the coach of the year. I 280 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 2: read that wasn't in the Fox Sports dot Com. And 281 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 2: you know, I know that he's done a good job 282 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 2: because it's been decimated with injuries. But still in all, 283 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 2: what happened last night was ridiculous. I mean, I get it. 284 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:57,559 Speaker 2: I watched that Seattle defense was smothering. I mean, really 285 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 2: and truly it was tremendous. This Seattle team, which a 286 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 2: lot of people don't know about because I think the 287 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 2: time zone factor and when they play. But this team 288 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 2: is super Bowl bounding. I really believe they are. 289 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 5: I mean, look, it's a really good team. They can 290 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 5: do it in a bunch of different ways. They've been 291 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 5: able to do it with Sam Donald playing a key 292 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 5: role as a point guard on offense, and that is 293 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 5: really kind of helped him. That's oversheted because there's a 294 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 5: point in the year when Sam Donald and Jackson Smith 295 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 5: and Jigbug were just dominating people, throwing the ball all 296 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 5: over the yard. But when it comes down to it, 297 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 5: the way they were able to win, particularly the last 298 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 5: couple of weeks, has been about the running game, Zach 299 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 5: Sharburname being able to make big plays on the ground, 300 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:47,319 Speaker 5: Ken Watch Junior, their dominance on defense, Nick and many 301 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 5: worry their front line, with Leonard Williams and company being 302 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 5: able to really crush it at the point of attack. 303 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 5: They're just a well constructed team and to have two 304 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 5: home games potentially where the two are a major impact. 305 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 5: I mean you almost can pistol them into the super 306 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 5: Bowl because it's really hard to beat them in that environment. 307 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 5: I think they've won ten straight home games in the playoffs. 308 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 5: They're just a very difficult team to beat at home, 309 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:16,719 Speaker 5: and so we'll have an opportunity to see them at 310 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 5: their best because all roads lead through the Pacific Northwest. 311 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 2: And the funny thing is we mentioned the run game 312 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 2: in that first game with Carolina and Tampa Bay. 313 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: Look at the stats on this game. 314 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 2: Seattle rushed for a total of one hundred eighty yards 315 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 2: as opposed to the forty nine is fifty three yards 316 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 2: on the ground and Christian McCaffrey eight carries for twenty 317 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 2: three yards. I mean, I know the field may be 318 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 2: not great conditions, but still at all I just think 319 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 2: that the defense of Seattle had a lot to do 320 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 2: with that. 321 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 1: Brock perty nineteen. 322 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 2: For twenty seven for one to twenty seven and an interception, 323 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 2: and all Sam Donald had to do is not turn 324 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 2: the ball over, which he had been I guess at 325 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 2: times during the season a turnover machine. He almost fumbled 326 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 2: at one time I saw and I think what was it, 327 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 2: charponnet or Walker fell on the ball. It was a 328 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 2: great say that could have been devastating over there. But 329 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 2: Donald was twenty for twenty six for one ninety eight, 330 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 2: but again they rushed for one point eighty as opposed 331 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 2: to the forty nine. 332 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: Ers rushing for a team fifty three. That was it 333 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: right there. 334 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean there's a big part of their thing 335 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 5: their ability to be able to run the football, to 336 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 5: control it, to dominate it, to play great defense against 337 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 5: the Niners team that had been terrific all the way through. 338 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 5: I mean, they just they've been terrific offensively where you 339 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 5: just couldn't stop them, and Seattle Seahawks were able to 340 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 5: find a way to kind of get it done and 341 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 5: it worked to their favor. Now, the interesting thing would 342 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 5: be for the Niners is how did they bounce back? 343 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 3: How did they bounce back. 344 00:15:56,200 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 5: From a very disappointing performance at home? They give it away, 345 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 5: they had some injuries that prevented them from kind of 346 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 5: being at the best. What would they do to recover? 347 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 5: But I'm pretty confident that the Niners come back. They're 348 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 5: gonna be a tough team for whoever they have to play. 349 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 5: And if it's the Niners versus the fourth seed, which 350 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 5: would be the NFC South champs, the Buccaneers or the 351 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 5: Carolina Panthers, man give me the Niners on that like, 352 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 5: so we will have an opportunity to see the Niners 353 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 5: and maybe the Sea Yawks do get out again as 354 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 5: we get down in the tournament. 355 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind seeing that again. 356 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 2: I tell you what, that thirteen to three score, which 357 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 2: is Seattle won last night, is really not really the 358 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 2: true story of that game, because I really think Seattle 359 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 2: dominated that game. It was like ten to three at 360 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 2: the half, and there were a couple of opportunities, and 361 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 2: I kind of questioned on the game's opening possession a 362 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 2: Seattle kept the offense on the field. It was fourth 363 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 2: and goal from the four yard line. I'm saying he 364 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 2: and even the announcers didn't they say, it's a give 365 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 2: me three points right there. 366 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:56,239 Speaker 1: And they came away. 367 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 2: With nothing because they had a field goal and the 368 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 2: field goal at ten failed and that was the end 369 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 2: of And then it was ridiculous. 370 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 1: Really, it could have been three nothing right there, and 371 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:07,199 Speaker 1: they missed another field goal opportunity. 372 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 2: It should have been more. I really believe they should 373 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 2: have scored more points. But I don't understand that deal. 374 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 2: What was the logic behind that, you know, staying on 375 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:18,120 Speaker 2: the field for that going for they had the three 376 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 2: points there, and they went for what they for the 377 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:20,879 Speaker 2: deal they failed. 378 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: Why would you do that? You get the points, always 379 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: go for your points, right? 380 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 5: Uh No, I mean like it's a new era where 381 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 5: these guys like to go for it. They like to 382 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 5: be aggressive, trying to hunt points, put games away and 383 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 5: those things, and they're willing to live with the consequences. 384 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:41,719 Speaker 5: And you talk about a game in where Seattle certainly 385 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 5: could have dominated beyond when the school board reflected they 386 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 5: just made some decisions where they went for it. They 387 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 5: had some poor execution at time in those moments. They 388 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 5: missed the field goal, they doint the close range shot. 389 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 5: So you very well could come away from their game 390 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 5: if you were to see saying, man, we could have 391 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 5: dominated this team by so much more if we just 392 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 5: play a little better, then have a ton of confidence 393 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 5: going into the postseason. The way they've handled and had 394 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 5: the bounce back and come back against the Rams, the 395 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:15,159 Speaker 5: way they were able to knock off the Niners and 396 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 5: those things. This is a team that's playing their best 397 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 5: ball heading to the postseason. We'll see, though, if the 398 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:24,640 Speaker 5: Rest versus russ debate comes back to get them, because 399 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:26,919 Speaker 5: they're going to have that week off how are they 400 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 5: going to be able to kind of pick up where 401 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 5: they left off when they get into the tournament. 402 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:34,120 Speaker 2: The only thing I could think of that was going 403 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 2: through Mike McDonald, the coach of Seattle. On that play 404 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:39,400 Speaker 2: in the first position, when they were on the four 405 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 2: yard line and instead of taking the field goal, they 406 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 2: went for it and they failed. He had so much 407 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:46,399 Speaker 2: confidence in his defense that he didn't worry about that 408 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 2: because the forty nine ers took over on their. 409 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 1: Position and they went three and out. 410 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 2: Right after that, they went three and out because of 411 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 2: Seattle's defense, So I can see maybe, But then again 412 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 2: Seattle came back and Jason Myers missed a field goal again, 413 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 2: so it was it was kind of back and forth. 414 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 2: But thirteen to three is not indicative of really the 415 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 2: way Seattle really beat up on the forty nine ers yesterday. 416 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 1: And again. 417 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:10,479 Speaker 2: You know, I'll give you the opportunity to defend your 418 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:13,400 Speaker 2: Kyle Shanahan's Coach of the Year deal, and I guess 419 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 2: the coach of the Year deal that has already voted 420 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:18,199 Speaker 2: on not it doesn't count on these games or they do. 421 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:20,640 Speaker 1: I mean, how does that work? Coach of the Year. 422 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 5: I mean, look, when you right ahead of it. I 423 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 5: don't know if they're gonna win or lose. They lost, 424 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:28,679 Speaker 5: I mean I'm anticipating that if they win, he beat 425 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 5: the numb one seed, then you have to give him 426 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 5: the thing right now. It'll rifley go to one of 427 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:36,199 Speaker 5: the first year coaches that orchestrated a turnaround, whether it's 428 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 5: Liam Khyn, Ben Johnson, Mike Rabel, one of those guys 429 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 5: would probably be the recipient. 430 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:43,400 Speaker 2: No, I hear what you saying. The job he's done 431 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 2: is amazing, done a tremendous job. Because you know the 432 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 2: majority of his starters are on the bench. They just 433 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:50,400 Speaker 2: don't play the hurt why. 434 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 1: I don't know. 435 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,439 Speaker 2: It just the luck of the draw. Maybe it happens. 436 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 2: But he's done a great job keeping them together. What 437 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 2: they had a six game winning streak going to the 438 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:00,640 Speaker 2: game last night, But coach of the Year, I gave 439 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 2: you credit for doing that. He's a great coach, he 440 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 2: really is. He's a heck of a coach. But I 441 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 2: don't know if he's gonna get that deal. I don't 442 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:07,439 Speaker 2: think he's here to get it. 443 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 3: No, he's not gonna get it. 444 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 5: Like when when they fall toed and the way they 445 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 5: fall to the national stage. Yeah, like his candidacy like 446 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 5: took a major hit because they didn't win and because 447 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 5: they were dominated by the Seahawks. 448 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 3: And that's okay. 449 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 5: I think he's done a terrific job of what he's 450 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 5: had to overcome to get this team to the point 451 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 5: where where they won twelve games. You talk about the 452 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 5: number of blue chip players that are sitting in the sideline. 453 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 5: We saw Nick Bose and Fred Warner up in the box. 454 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,400 Speaker 5: They didn't have Trent Williams and Ricky Piersol last night. 455 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 5: Brock Praidy missed eight games. They're playing with a backup 456 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 5: quarterback in mac Jones. 457 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 3: They've overcome a. 458 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:44,119 Speaker 5: Lot to be there and they still will be one 459 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:47,400 Speaker 5: of the tougher outs in the postseason. So we'll see 460 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 5: what it looks. 461 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 2: Like when a job with Matt Jones. Matt Jones did 462 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 2: well when he was in there, He really did. 463 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, So I mean he deserves a lot of credit. 464 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 5: We'll see there'd be a I mean, look, this year 465 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 5: has been phenomenal in terms of the which is that 466 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,119 Speaker 5: are worthy of receiving the award. We'll see how shakes 467 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:04,199 Speaker 5: out here we go. 468 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 2: He's Bucky Brooks get him on X at Bucket Brooks 469 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 2: at Andy Furman FSL. 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How big of a surprise was that, 507 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 2: not only for you, Bucky Brooks, foot for the whole 508 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 2: world to see. 509 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 5: I think it's a bit surprised because a lot of 510 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 5: people that talked about Ohio State being the most talented team, 511 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 5: the best team that money could buy. However, when you 512 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 5: watch the game, Miami dominated the game in the trenches 513 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 5: from the beginning to the end. In terms of the 514 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 5: way Ruben Dame my sore playered the way they were 515 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,399 Speaker 5: able to play upfront, like the best way to talk 516 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 5: about number three, number four. They just dominated at the 517 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 5: line of scrimmage, and the physicality, the toughness to violence 518 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:31,160 Speaker 5: with which the Miami Hurricanes played was overwhelming at first. 519 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 5: The Buckeyes eventually matched that, but then it came down 520 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 5: to making plays, and Miami just made more plays down 521 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 5: the stretch. 522 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:40,880 Speaker 3: I think they wore them down. 523 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 5: So yeah, I'm surprised, but I think I am encouraged 524 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 5: in terms of the way that we saw the games 525 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,679 Speaker 5: play out in the playoffs are exactly how it should be. 526 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 5: The most physical team, the team that really executes at 527 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 5: a high level, those were the teams that won. So 528 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 5: there weren't any flukes. That was not a fluke win 529 00:23:58,640 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 5: by the miaim Hurricanes. 530 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 2: Now a big question is they had the Fox Sports 531 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:06,880 Speaker 2: Radio Football Pool, so to speak, the contest. 532 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: Did you have Miami winning that game? 533 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:14,120 Speaker 5: Unfortunately I forgot to participate in the pool going in, 534 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 5: but like going back, I probably would have been a 535 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 5: coin flip. I probably would have favored Ohio State going 536 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:25,160 Speaker 5: into it, but Miami's good. And when I watched Miami 537 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 5: play against Texas A and M. The previous week they dominated, 538 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 5: their defense, dominated and throttled Texas A and M. So 539 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:34,679 Speaker 5: I'm not surprised that they did the same thing for 540 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 5: Ohio State, especially considering how Indiana had boughted them up 541 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 5: pretty good in the Big Ten championship game. 542 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 2: All Right, so they're gonna play I guess they're gonna 543 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,160 Speaker 2: play Ole Miss on Thursday, that is Miami. 544 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: But here's the background. 545 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 2: Here is the background picture of the Ohio State Buckeyes 546 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 2: with a thirty five million dollar payroll, which is unbelievable. Really, 547 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 2: they had the nation's most accurate quarterback, and Julian saying 548 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 2: their defense was ranked among the best, if not the best, 549 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,439 Speaker 2: in the country. Thirty five million dollars worth of talent. Okay, 550 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 2: so that's going to be something that's going to bite 551 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 2: them in the rear end. They have a higher winning 552 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 2: percentage of any other program since the start of the 553 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 2: BOWLD Championship Series back in nineteen ninety eight, and in 554 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 2: the eleven year playoff era, no program, none, has won 555 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,439 Speaker 2: a higher share of games than the buck Geys, not 556 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 2: even Alabama. Okay, the Hurricanes. They sacked, Julian saying five 557 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 2: times they went twenty four to fourteen. They're going to 558 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:31,639 Speaker 2: play Old Miss on Thursday night. I think they're going 559 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 2: to beat Old Miss. So now the problem is this. 560 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 2: You spend thirty five million dollars. People want to return 561 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 2: in their dollar. People want to return on their investment. Okay, 562 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 2: I don't care what you do. I don't care what 563 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,680 Speaker 2: business you're in, a car salesman or anybody else. These 564 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 2: are the people that put up their money needs. Crazy 565 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 2: alums at Ohio State. They're not happy. They're not happy 566 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 2: that their buck. Guys, the people that they shelled out 567 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 2: the money for that they didn't get the return of 568 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 2: their dollar. What happens now? Thirty five million dollars is 569 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,919 Speaker 2: a lot of money. Know what Indiana's payroll is, But 570 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 2: I don't think it's that. I don't think it's thirty 571 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 2: five million. I really don't. 572 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 5: Look at the costs of doing business, and you just 573 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 5: have to tell you people that it's the cost of 574 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 5: doing business. 575 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 3: It guarantees us nothing. 576 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 5: But if you don't pony up the money, it guarantees 577 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 5: that we won't be in the conversation. So you either 578 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 5: want us in the conversation or not. Uh, you got 579 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,120 Speaker 5: to pay to play. You have to pay to get 580 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,640 Speaker 5: really good players, and if you're not willing to pay, 581 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 5: you want to kind of be at that on a 582 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,159 Speaker 5: different layer, a different level, a different tier than some 583 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,639 Speaker 5: of the top teams. Doesn't guarantee that you're gonna win it, 584 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 5: but in terms of competing for the four and five stars, 585 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,639 Speaker 5: you better have cash in hand because that's what they demand. 586 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 2: And you know what the common thread be it the 587 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 2: NFL games we talked about previously, or this game right here, 588 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:50,160 Speaker 2: the running game rushing Miami outrushed the Ohio State Buckeyes 589 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 2: one fifty three to forty five. That that's an amazing number, 590 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,399 Speaker 2: and that's glaring. I mean, you could look at box scores. 591 00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 2: Are the three games or two games yesterday in this 592 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 2: game right now now, just by looking at the bop 593 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 2: square on the out rushing games, you could tell who 594 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:05,119 Speaker 2: won the game. 595 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 5: I mean, there's always been the case. It's always been 596 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,679 Speaker 5: the blueprint, the formula. Some people will say causation and 597 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 5: correlation doesn't match up. Just because they have those rushing 598 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 5: numbers doesn't mean that that was the. 599 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 3: Cause of the win. Is a byproduct of it? I 600 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 3: don't know. 601 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 5: I will say this when you're able to run the 602 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 5: football successfully. There's a few different things that it does. 603 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 3: It allows you to. 604 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 5: Control the game, like we talked about, managing the clock 605 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 5: and those things. It allows you to beat up your opponent, 606 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 5: which leads to more success in later quarters. And it 607 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 5: protects your defense because the fewer snaps your defense plays, 608 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 5: the better they're going to play. Because every defense has 609 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,680 Speaker 5: a limit. If you play past a certain number of plays, 610 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,679 Speaker 5: you're going to see some mistakes and fatigue and that 611 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 5: come into play. The running game prevents all of that, 612 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,880 Speaker 5: and it sets up the quarterback for success off play action, no. 613 00:27:58,880 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 1: Doubt about that. 614 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 2: Now, I'm going to move the calendar back to October 615 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:03,880 Speaker 2: eleventh of. 616 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 1: This twenty twenty five. 617 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:09,439 Speaker 2: Last year, Okay, Indiana University played Oregon in Eugene and 618 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 2: beat them thirty to twenty. There's going to be a 619 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:13,879 Speaker 2: rematch in the semi finals, right now. That's going to 620 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 2: be this Friday night. Indiana will meet Oregon Friday night 621 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 2: in the semi finals of the College football players and 622 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,120 Speaker 2: they're coming in on They're rolling. Indiana is rolling right now. 623 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 2: They beat up on Alabama thirty eight to three, and 624 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 2: that game was Alabama's worst loss since the turn of 625 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 2: the century, which includes Alabama's loss at the hands of 626 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 2: Clemson in the National Championship Game after twenty eighteen thirty 627 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 2: eight to three. How does that happen? I mean, the 628 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 2: team just laid down. I watched the game. I couldn't 629 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 2: believe what I saw. It was the most lopsided loss 630 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 2: in a bowl game thirty five points at the lowest 631 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 2: point total in the postseason matchup since bab Bryant's Alabama 632 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 2: team ended the nineteen sixty Blue Bonnet Bowl. 633 00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 1: I looked this up in a three to three tie 634 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 1: with ten. It is unbelievable. 635 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 2: And Kellen de Boor, I mean, when he took the 636 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 2: job at Alabama, I said to myself, you never ever 637 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 2: want to follow a legend. You want to follow the 638 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 2: legends guy. The guy follows the legend after he goes 639 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 2: that's what you want to do. You just don't do that. 640 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 2: I don't care what business you're in. You don't want 641 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 2: to follow a legend. And that's what he did. And 642 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 2: he's getting some heat, getting some big time heat in Alabama. 643 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 5: Well they should get some heat in Alabama because anyone 644 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 5: who's watched the program closely knows that man. They haven't 645 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 5: played to the standard in awhile, and when I mean 646 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 5: playing to the standard, I am talking about playing the 647 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 5: way that we've expected Alabama to play after watching Nick 648 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 5: Saban dominated on the sidelines for almost two decades down there. 649 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 5: They have a physicality, they have a tough list, They 650 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 5: have a discipline and an attention to detail that stood out. 651 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 5: They were the heavyweight fighter that was knocking out all 652 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 5: the middle waste because of their imposing size, physicality and 653 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 5: strength toughness. This Alabama team and the Alabama teams that 654 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 5: we've seen since Kaitlyn the Boor took over, are nothing 655 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 5: like those saving teams. Some of the I would say, 656 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 5: the discipline and structure that we're used to seeing with 657 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 5: the Nick Saban coach team has gone out the window. 658 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 5: And that doesn't mean that Kailn the Boar isn't a 659 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 5: great coach. I would liken it to maybe Nick Saban 660 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 5: and Pete Carroll. They go about their business differently and 661 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 5: you can get the same results, but it's going to 662 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 5: look different in terms of like I would say, some 663 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,719 Speaker 5: of the loosey goosey nature of Alabama. But what I 664 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 5: saw in the Rose Bowl, I saw an Indiana team 665 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 5: physically beat Alabama up. They beat them up from beginning 666 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 5: to end, pillar to post as some people would say 667 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 5: built to booty as people like to refer to it now. 668 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 5: They beat them up. And at no point did it 669 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 5: ever feel like Alabama was gonna come back and make 670 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 5: that was a competitive contest and it's a testament of 671 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 5: the Kirk signetti they've done. But one thing that I 672 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 5: think people need to understand about Indiana and one of 673 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 5: the advantages that Indiana has now over some of these 674 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:12,479 Speaker 5: other teams, very much like the NCAA Tournament is proving 675 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 5: in basketball, the older team wins, and when you have 676 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 5: a team full of fifth and six year players, they're 677 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 5: going to beat up the younger five stars. And Indiana 678 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 5: has an old, experienced team and they play like men 679 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 5: compared to the little boys that we saw at Alabama. 680 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 5: That was the biggest deciding factor in it. The older 681 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 5: teams are beginning to dominate, and the teams that are 682 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 5: able to find those fifth and six year players that 683 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 5: are good players may not be four and five stars, 684 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 5: but three stars that have continued to develop, they have 685 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 5: a significant advantage in the postseason. 686 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 2: I got to ask you though a house surprised? Are 687 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 2: you with the success right now? Of course Signetti not 688 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 2: just on this game, but over the last two years 689 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 2: in Indiana. Mean, did you follow his teams at James Madison? 690 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 2: Did you know he would do this and turn the 691 00:31:58,480 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 2: program around like that? 692 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 5: No? I don't think anybody could. Right, Like when he 693 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 5: grabbed a mic and he was talking bold and loud 694 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 5: and all that, I was like, who's this guy? And 695 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 5: then he ended talking about he's gonna win Google me 696 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 5: and those things. But when you dig back and the 697 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 5: more you listen to him, and the more he shares 698 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 5: his story in terms of what he learned along the way, 699 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 5: how he wanted to have an opportunity to be a 700 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 5: head coach and he learned structure and those things from 701 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 5: coach Saban. He followed the blueprint when he went to 702 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 5: Indiana University of Pennsylvania. Then he took that to Elone 703 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 5: and from Elon to James Madison and from JMU to Indiana. 704 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 5: The blueprint works, and he has a lot of success, 705 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 5: and that success gives him a lot of confidence to 706 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 5: be able to stand in front of the room and 707 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 5: tell you guys, if y'all follow me, we're gonna win. 708 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 5: And when you bring a handful of your own players 709 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 5: who can also preach that gospel, it helps. And he's 710 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 5: a really good coach. And when you look at their teams, 711 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 5: they're well coached. I watched that game early when Indiana 712 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 5: knocked off Oregon. Look, man, they beat him down, They 713 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 5: out coached him, they outplayed them, they out executed them, 714 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 5: all of those things. And so if people are expecting 715 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 5: Oregon to just flip the switch and turn it on 716 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 5: and beat them, this is going to be a great 717 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 5: game to watch because these are two world coach teams 718 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 5: with really good personnel. 719 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 1: Well, I will say this. 720 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 2: You always say that the players take the personality of 721 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 2: their coach when he When Signetty came in there, that 722 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 2: program was on its back. It was I mean, it 723 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 2: was a basketball school, no doubt about that. Football was 724 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 2: a secondary situation and they were on their back. But 725 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 2: he came in there and like said things, and they 726 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 2: you know, woke up a lot of people. And certainly 727 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:40,719 Speaker 2: then they says are out the yeah, yeah he'll really 728 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 2: do this. Yeah they didn't believe them. But I think 729 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 2: that inside the locker room, these players needed that. They 730 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 2: needed that from someone that believed in them, even though 731 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 2: he may never even see them yet, even on tape, 732 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 2: but they believed in him, and I think they're taking 733 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 2: that confidence level. Yeah, certainly it's a lot of skill, 734 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 2: of course, but they take the confidence that he instilled 735 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 2: upon them by just talk and saying those things publicly, 736 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 2: and I think you could see it on the field. 737 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 2: Maybe I'm wrong, but I think a lot of it 738 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 2: has to do with his attitude and what he has 739 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,239 Speaker 2: said to make them believers. 740 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,799 Speaker 5: Uh. Yeah, Look, the attitude certainly plays a part in it, 741 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,799 Speaker 5: but it's the work, and anyone around the program will 742 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 5: tell you that it's about the work, the detailed, the discipline, 743 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 5: and the way that they prepare. It's not just oh, 744 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:24,399 Speaker 5: I feel like we're gonna be great, so we're gonna 745 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:25,799 Speaker 5: be great now. There's a lot of work that goes 746 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:26,840 Speaker 5: to it. That's why they win it. 747 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 2: Okay, Last, but not least, Kellen Depour first Alabama coach 748 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:34,479 Speaker 2: to lose four or more games in consecutive seasons since 749 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,400 Speaker 2: Mike Schuler and three and o four, And last but 750 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 2: not least, Fernando Mendoz, a quarterback for Indiana. In that game, 751 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 2: he finished with more touchdown passes three than in completions two. 752 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 2: He went fourteen for sixteen for one to ninety two, 753 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 2: one of the best pass the ratings of the season. 754 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 2: I'm going for Indiana. I think that you know what 755 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 2: you're talking about, Cinderella. I mean the NCAA basketball tournament 756 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,400 Speaker 2: has it. I honestly think that this is the Cinderella 757 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,359 Speaker 2: team of the year. I think the nation he's pulling 758 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 2: for Indiana. I think they like the underdog. Although they 759 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:04,879 Speaker 2: may not be the underdog at number one, but there's 760 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 2: somewhat of an underdumpers when it comes to football. You 761 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,319 Speaker 2: don't really think of Indiana as a powerhouse. So we'll 762 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,479 Speaker 2: see what happens there. By the way, he's Bucky Brooks. 763 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,439 Speaker 2: I'm Andy Furman. Were live for the Fox Sports Radio 764 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 2: studios and it's that time to get just a little 765 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 2: bit smarter. Why ask Bucky? It's next? Fox Sports Radio 766 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,400 Speaker 2: has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch 767 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,920 Speaker 2: all of our shows at Foxsports Radio dot com and 768 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 2: within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to listen live. All right, yes, Bucky, 769 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,760 Speaker 2: right around the bend. That's Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy Fermerway 770 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 2: of Fox Football Sunday of Fox Sports Radio Live from 771 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 2: the Fox Sports Radio Studios and Bucky joining us today. 772 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 2: Patrick Sweek, a celebrity move, a one time shot, a 773 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 2: former executive producer, a little dumper. 774 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:50,719 Speaker 1: How are you doing everything good? You have a good 775 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:51,320 Speaker 1: New Year's? 776 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 4: Oh? 777 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 1: I had a great New Year's it's it? Are you ready? 778 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 3: Oh? 779 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 1: Ready for as Bucky? Are you got a question for him? 780 00:35:58,560 --> 00:35:58,719 Speaker 5: Oh? 781 00:35:58,800 --> 00:35:59,239 Speaker 7: I do? 782 00:35:59,360 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 5: I do? 783 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 1: Let it? 784 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 7: Let's do it all right, Buck, I got a question 785 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 7: for you. So there has been a reported rumors or 786 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 7: surrounding the Minnesota Vikings that they may or may not 787 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 7: be looking to go get a veteran quarterback to you know, 788 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:17,840 Speaker 7: kind of push and compete with mister JJ McCarthy, you 789 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 7: know nine for this coming off season. All I wanted 790 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 7: to ask you, Buck, is do you think didn't there's 791 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:28,240 Speaker 7: truth to that? Maybe what quarterback they may be looking at. 792 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,800 Speaker 5: Well, it's not a great quarterback class free agency or 793 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 5: the draft. I think JJ McCarthy certainly will have someone 794 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,800 Speaker 5: brought in to compete with him, but in their mind, 795 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 5: he should be the dude. So look for a mid level, 796 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 5: low level veteran quarterback to come in. But I'm gonna 797 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,280 Speaker 5: tell you it's not great. Mac Jones is on the contract, 798 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,920 Speaker 5: Daniel Jones is coming off an injury. Then you're talking 799 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 5: about Tyrod Taylor and the usual suspect. So there's no 800 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:57,239 Speaker 5: one out there. I think they'll try and add some competition. 801 00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 5: But look, JJ McCarthy is gonna be the starting quarterback 802 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 5: for Minnesota next year. 803 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,400 Speaker 1: All right, Magic Mark, you got something for Bucky. So Bucky. 804 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 8: I had a chance to see the Ole Miss Georgia game. 805 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:12,920 Speaker 8: And just like every week we can complain about referee calls. 806 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,960 Speaker 8: Is there anything that you could do, like you just 807 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 8: if you could waiver wand to have referees not go 808 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:24,120 Speaker 8: blind at certain seconds so that they see all their calls. 809 00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:27,880 Speaker 5: I think the game is I think the game is 810 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,719 Speaker 5: so fast that they're gonna miss some calls. I think 811 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,640 Speaker 5: with replay assist in those things, maybe you can clean some. 812 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:35,840 Speaker 3: Of that up. But you have to got to charge 813 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:37,800 Speaker 3: some of that up to the human element of the game. 814 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 5: They are going to make mistakes, and you have to 815 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 5: be willing and able to play through some of the 816 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:42,920 Speaker 5: mistakes that they make. 817 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,520 Speaker 2: I'm switching. I'm gonna switch the spot. I'm gonna go 818 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 2: to hockey. Can I do that? I got a hockey question. 819 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,520 Speaker 2: But even with the NHL. The NHL about twenty years ago, 820 00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:55,840 Speaker 2: they really hit gold when they had that New Year's 821 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 2: Day with the Classic. It was a celebration of the 822 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,560 Speaker 2: arches of hockey played on frozen with the ponds. Now, 823 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 2: the first outdoor game was played at the Buffalo bill 824 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 2: Stadium in a snowstorm. It was must C TV. It 825 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,480 Speaker 2: was it was great. So what does the NHL do? 826 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,560 Speaker 2: They moved the game this year to January two. They 827 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 2: moved it to Miami in a retractable roof stadium. 828 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 1: Why in the hell do they do that? How stupid 829 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:19,040 Speaker 1: is that? 830 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:22,279 Speaker 5: I have no idea why they would try and do 831 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,480 Speaker 5: a Winter Classic in Miami. That doesn't make any sense 832 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,399 Speaker 5: that it goes it goes against everything, Like you can't 833 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,919 Speaker 5: even replicate the conditions that you would want in terms 834 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:34,200 Speaker 5: of like you're like a blustery background to be the backdrop. 835 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:35,160 Speaker 8: Right. 836 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, not a great move. Not a great move. 837 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,120 Speaker 5: I don't know who gets dead in their office, but 838 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,000 Speaker 5: not one of the brightest ideas from NHL. 839 00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:45,360 Speaker 1: I'm with you right there, thank you. 840 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,720 Speaker 2: Okay, now we talk about the college football transfer portal 841 00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 2: to me and how many people have said this as 842 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:50,799 Speaker 2: a free for all. 843 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,200 Speaker 1: You got to change it. But how could it be changed. 844 00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:57,960 Speaker 5: I think you can push the day's back, but I 845 00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 5: think the calendar needs to be changed. In general. One, 846 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,560 Speaker 5: the college football Playoff is too long. They should be 847 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,920 Speaker 5: able to end this, like Dan Lanning suggests January first, 848 00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:11,879 Speaker 5: because if January first ends the season of twenty twenty five, well, 849 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:15,680 Speaker 5: if the porter opens on January tecod twenty twenty six. 850 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,319 Speaker 3: Well that great, the new season, new year, knew me 851 00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:19,480 Speaker 3: all those other things. 852 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,640 Speaker 5: It's just about the college football Playoff making sure one 853 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:27,120 Speaker 5: regular season ends before the thoughts in the planning of 854 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:28,280 Speaker 5: the next season begins. 855 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,239 Speaker 2: Okay, Tomorrow is what they call black Monday. That's when 856 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,360 Speaker 2: coaches may get the pink slip. I'm gonna give you 857 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,960 Speaker 2: some names, and you could expand to see if in 858 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:41,200 Speaker 2: fact they will be gone after tomorrow morning. Pete Carroll, 859 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:47,799 Speaker 2: the Raiders head coach. Audios I need that was like 860 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:48,839 Speaker 2: a no brainer right there. 861 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:49,200 Speaker 1: Okay. 862 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:53,640 Speaker 2: Zach Taylor Bengals, Hey, it was bad everything. Zach Taylor, 863 00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:54,800 Speaker 2: Bengals head coach. 864 00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,439 Speaker 3: Nah, he'll stay because the offense of people love him. 865 00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 5: He'll stay, all right. 866 00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,760 Speaker 2: Kevin Stefanski head coach of the Cleveland Browns. 867 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:04,680 Speaker 3: Should be gone. 868 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:06,759 Speaker 5: And then the fact that someone is talking about him 869 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,840 Speaker 5: being a high retrade candidate is crazy to me. 870 00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:15,040 Speaker 3: But yeah, he should be out. John Harbaugh, No, he 871 00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:15,960 Speaker 3: stays right. 872 00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,640 Speaker 2: Really okay, anybody else in your mind that. 873 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:20,240 Speaker 1: May be gone? 874 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:22,920 Speaker 3: I think the conversation. 875 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:26,319 Speaker 5: Look, I think the loser, John Harbor, Mike Tomlin, there's 876 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,239 Speaker 5: gonna be a lot of conversation. I don't think either 877 00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,960 Speaker 5: of those guys leaves, but the seat will be hot 878 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:33,840 Speaker 5: on both of them. 879 00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:39,640 Speaker 2: Really, what about the Cowboys defensive corterbat defensive coordinator Mac Eeberfloss. 880 00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:43,759 Speaker 5: Like, hopefully he's already ended his lease and got his 881 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:45,319 Speaker 5: boxes and stuff matched up. 882 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:46,000 Speaker 3: He's out. 883 00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,160 Speaker 2: All right, We're gonna take a look at the NFL 884 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:51,520 Speaker 2: playoff picture and the NFL rookies, that and so much more. 885 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:56,719 Speaker 2: Where Fox Football Sunday coming up right here next? All right, 886 00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:57,880 Speaker 2: is anyone watching? 887 00:40:57,920 --> 00:40:58,400 Speaker 1: I tell you what. 888 00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:00,840 Speaker 2: We'll ask that question and we'll get the answer just 889 00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:01,440 Speaker 2: about a minute. 890 00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:02,240 Speaker 1: Good morning, everybody. 891 00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,400 Speaker 2: This is Fox Football Sunday and Fox Sports Radio. He's 892 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,319 Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks, I mean he Firman went broadcasting live from 893 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,919 Speaker 2: the Fox Sports Radio studios and of course be sure 894 00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,799 Speaker 2: to subscribe to the Fox Sports Radio YouTube channel. Just 895 00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,120 Speaker 2: search Fox Sports Radio on YouTube and you'll see our 896 00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:17,640 Speaker 2: best videos from all of our shows. 897 00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,520 Speaker 1: And don't stop there. Hit that thumbs up. 898 00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:22,600 Speaker 2: I kind of comment the way, let us know whose 899 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 2: takes that you like and even those that you don't like. 900 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,680 Speaker 2: Just search Fox Sports Radio on YouTube and subscribe. Now 901 00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:29,759 Speaker 2: I asked the question, mister Bucket Brooks, how are you? 902 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,200 Speaker 2: Is anybody watching? And when I say that, I mean 903 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,919 Speaker 2: I'll talk about college basketball. You know, I heard Steve 904 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,000 Speaker 2: the Sega top of the hour, given the college basketball 905 00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:38,440 Speaker 2: scores Kansas lost. 906 00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:39,760 Speaker 1: At this point in time. 907 00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:43,120 Speaker 2: You know, we talk about the NFL rolling over the NBA, 908 00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:46,239 Speaker 2: especially on Christmas Day. I think college football right now 909 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:49,080 Speaker 2: is pushing college basketball to the sidelines a little bit 910 00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 2: as well, don't you agree? 911 00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:54,600 Speaker 5: Yeah hundred percent, Like no one is fully immersed themself 912 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:58,160 Speaker 5: in college basketball. Yeah, because college football is still going on. 913 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,520 Speaker 5: But yeah, football is king and it can ten used 914 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,239 Speaker 5: to show whether it's the NFL or college football. That 915 00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,640 Speaker 5: is what America loves. They love consuming football at all times. 916 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,719 Speaker 2: Right, And I will say this, I don't think we 917 00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:11,960 Speaker 2: gave Indiana University football. 918 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:13,120 Speaker 1: It's just due. 919 00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,240 Speaker 2: I think what this program in kurtz Signetti has done, 920 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:18,520 Speaker 2: although he has not answered me yet after I sent 921 00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:20,920 Speaker 2: them a cigar the other day after a big win, but. 922 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:21,680 Speaker 1: He probably will. 923 00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,520 Speaker 2: I would just want to mention a couple of things 924 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:28,040 Speaker 2: that they have accomplished Alabama. In that game they lost. 925 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,960 Speaker 2: Alabama lost thirty eight three the other day. Alabama now 926 00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,120 Speaker 2: has three straight losses in bowl games for the first 927 00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:35,920 Speaker 2: time since Bear Bryant lost four straight for seventy one 928 00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:40,800 Speaker 2: to seventy four. All right, Indiana had more rushing yards 929 00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:46,040 Speaker 2: two fifteen than Alabama managed total yards one ninety three, 930 00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,719 Speaker 2: much of the damage coming between the tackles, of course. Now, 931 00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:53,440 Speaker 2: Alabama came into the College Football Playoff quarterfinal game with 932 00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:57,040 Speaker 2: the SCC's best secondary, giving up just one hundred and 933 00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,799 Speaker 2: sixty eight yards a game and six point two yards 934 00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:04,200 Speaker 2: per attempt. They were torched by the Indiana They really were. 935 00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,680 Speaker 2: Now you played the game, you look at the team 936 00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:11,680 Speaker 2: on film, and Indiana's looking at Alabama and they're saying, Wow, 937 00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:13,239 Speaker 2: this secondary is pretty good. 938 00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:14,480 Speaker 1: What do they do? 939 00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:18,040 Speaker 2: You've seen the alignment. What did Kurt Signetty do? What 940 00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:21,600 Speaker 2: did Indiana do to crush Alabama, and they did. They 941 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,719 Speaker 2: crushed them. 942 00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,719 Speaker 5: I would say the main thing they did they all 943 00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:31,160 Speaker 5: physical them from beginning to end. The physicality, toughness, their effort, 944 00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,640 Speaker 5: they overwhelmed them. They were more violent than Alabama at 945 00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,279 Speaker 5: the line of scrimmage and all over the field, So 946 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:40,040 Speaker 5: that's one. Secondly, their execution was at a high level, 947 00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:41,440 Speaker 5: attention to detail. 948 00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:43,000 Speaker 3: They didn't give up anything cheap. 949 00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,399 Speaker 5: They kept the ball in front, they ran to the ball, 950 00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:50,080 Speaker 5: they took great angles. They played fundamentally sound ball, particularly 951 00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:55,920 Speaker 5: on defense, and then offensively they were efficient. Fernando menzou'sa 952 00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,600 Speaker 5: One of the best qualities that he has is his 953 00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:01,000 Speaker 5: ability to manage the game. He was efficient when it 954 00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,279 Speaker 5: came to passing. The ball didn't hit the ground much. 955 00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,080 Speaker 5: He is not the guy that is necessarily the driving 956 00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:09,400 Speaker 5: force of the offense, but he manages the game, situation 957 00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:14,600 Speaker 5: circumstance well, where they're always in a good play. They 958 00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:16,960 Speaker 5: always appear to be on schedule, but they never appear 959 00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,600 Speaker 5: to be out of source. So to me, this was 960 00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,919 Speaker 5: just a look a phenomenal game by Indiana. Not them 961 00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:26,600 Speaker 5: playing I would say above their talent, but them playing 962 00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,080 Speaker 5: their best game when their best game was expected to 963 00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:30,279 Speaker 5: be played in the postseason. 964 00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,719 Speaker 2: I would love to attend the Kurt Signify practice. I 965 00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,400 Speaker 2: think he's like a drow sergeant. I think there's no 966 00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,200 Speaker 2: fooling around, there's no smiling. It's just all yelling, screaming, 967 00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:42,200 Speaker 2: and he's got to be tough. I mean, it just 968 00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:44,880 Speaker 2: doesn't happen. It's not magic. He's working these guys hard, 969 00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:47,240 Speaker 2: and there's a fear factor. 970 00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,040 Speaker 1: Don't you think he's old schools? 971 00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:52,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think there's a fear factor. I don't 972 00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,600 Speaker 5: think fear factor stuff works in today's game. I think 973 00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,279 Speaker 5: what he is is very competent in his job. He 974 00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:01,120 Speaker 5: knows exactly what he wants. He is willing to hold 975 00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:04,600 Speaker 5: his players accountable for meeting the standard, but he's not 976 00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:07,080 Speaker 5: excessive in terms of his demands and what he wants 977 00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,759 Speaker 5: to do. Like he'll tell you they practice an hour 978 00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,400 Speaker 5: and a half three days a week. They have a 979 00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:14,760 Speaker 5: bunch of walk throughs. He wants to keep the players healthy. 980 00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:18,640 Speaker 5: But he is very detailed in terms of what he wants, 981 00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:22,440 Speaker 5: and some of being detailed requires you to be simplistic 982 00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:24,520 Speaker 5: in what you're doing, so you really can focus on 983 00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:28,800 Speaker 5: the execution of it. And explain the wise behind your methods. 984 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:33,480 Speaker 5: He does that that's why his players execute at such 985 00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,680 Speaker 5: a high level. But also remember, his players execute at 986 00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:39,839 Speaker 5: a high level because they're mature and they buy in 987 00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:44,680 Speaker 5: older team experienced team buying into what the coach says 988 00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:45,959 Speaker 5: has produced. 989 00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:47,920 Speaker 3: A lot of winning results for Indiana. 990 00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:49,839 Speaker 1: Okay, so help me out on this. 991 00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,960 Speaker 2: Now, if you're a coach on the college level college 992 00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:57,839 Speaker 2: football NCAA Division One, you kind of forget about going 993 00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,719 Speaker 2: after the five star high school kids more interested in 994 00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:01,800 Speaker 2: the portal and transfers. 995 00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:03,080 Speaker 1: Is that it? That's how you survive. 996 00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:08,319 Speaker 5: Now, Look, I think that's a part of it, but 997 00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:09,399 Speaker 5: I don't think it can be that. 998 00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:10,520 Speaker 3: I think the main thing. 999 00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,920 Speaker 5: That you have to be able to do is you 1000 00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:14,719 Speaker 5: have to be able to build a program and you 1001 00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:18,480 Speaker 5: have to be able to hold people accountable to what 1002 00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:22,400 Speaker 5: the expectations are. And that requires you to have tough, 1003 00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:25,279 Speaker 5: hard conversations with players at times, and it has to 1004 00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:28,120 Speaker 5: be the players have to fit into what you're doing. 1005 00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:31,319 Speaker 5: You don't acquiesce to the players, and that means that 1006 00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:33,839 Speaker 5: you can miss out on some really good players that 1007 00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,040 Speaker 5: don't fit in. And you have to be okay with 1008 00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:39,120 Speaker 5: that because it's about the team first, not the individual, 1009 00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:40,839 Speaker 5: and they have done that and they've had a lot 1010 00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:42,560 Speaker 5: of success because it works for them. 1011 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,520 Speaker 1: Okay, so we talk about the portal. It goes both ways. 1012 00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:48,160 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure coaches look at that portal and 1013 00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,160 Speaker 2: how does that work? Actually, we hear the term portal 1014 00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,840 Speaker 2: all the time, you know, January second? Is the portal 1015 00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,840 Speaker 2: opens up? Is there like a master list? Could coaches 1016 00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:57,680 Speaker 2: get this on a computer and they print it out? 1017 00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:00,000 Speaker 2: Is that how it works? There's like a clearing house 1018 00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:00,359 Speaker 2: for that. 1019 00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:02,080 Speaker 8: Uh? 1020 00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:03,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean you go in and everyone kind of 1021 00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:05,680 Speaker 5: knows who's in the portal. You see the names, and 1022 00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:10,040 Speaker 5: then once you're officially declared in uh, people can contact you. 1023 00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:14,040 Speaker 5: And when they start the contacting they you know, then 1024 00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:17,040 Speaker 5: you have to make decisions. But the overwhelming majority of 1025 00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:21,879 Speaker 5: players who jump in the portal don't find a happy ending. 1026 00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:24,440 Speaker 5: A lot of them just kind of language in the 1027 00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:27,799 Speaker 5: portal and they never are picked up again or those things. 1028 00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:29,200 Speaker 5: So you have to be careful. You have to make 1029 00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:30,920 Speaker 5: sure when you get in you have a really good 1030 00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,640 Speaker 5: sense that someone is going to come and get you, 1031 00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:35,720 Speaker 5: and that doesn't always happen. 1032 00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:38,920 Speaker 2: So it's it's not released. But how come the total 1033 00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,200 Speaker 2: portal is not released to the media. How come we 1034 00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:44,160 Speaker 2: don't see that. We hear drips and DRAMs that a 1035 00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,879 Speaker 2: player has entered the portal. But why is the entire 1036 00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:50,120 Speaker 2: portal list listed like in USA today or something. 1037 00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,520 Speaker 5: Like that that. I don't know, like that would be 1038 00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:54,760 Speaker 5: an Cuba question. I don't know why it's not listed. 1039 00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:56,920 Speaker 5: But I think every player pretty much tells you when 1040 00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:58,839 Speaker 5: they're going into portal. So if you follow along on 1041 00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:01,719 Speaker 5: social media, kind of know who's in there who's not 1042 00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:07,040 Speaker 5: because they players have no look, they have no quabbles 1043 00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:10,120 Speaker 5: or about telling people, Ay, I'm about to jump into 1044 00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:13,840 Speaker 5: portal all this other stuff, so is there. You just 1045 00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:15,799 Speaker 5: have to look forward, kind of figure out who you're 1046 00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:17,680 Speaker 5: looking for, what you're looking for, and what you want. 1047 00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:21,280 Speaker 2: Okay, And now now that Indiana has become a quote 1048 00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:24,760 Speaker 2: power in football, it goes both ways. I mean, coaches 1049 00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,759 Speaker 2: could handpick players that they want through the portal, but 1050 00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:31,240 Speaker 2: aren't a lot of players right now contacting Indiana directly, 1051 00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:32,279 Speaker 2: like I want to play for you. 1052 00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:34,280 Speaker 1: People want to play for a winner, no doubt. 1053 00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:37,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, But I think the school has to contact the 1054 00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:39,520 Speaker 5: player more so than the player being able to contact 1055 00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:43,319 Speaker 5: the school. I'm not certain on all of that, but 1056 00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:47,359 Speaker 5: I think there is something to that part of it. Look, 1057 00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:49,640 Speaker 5: any end is certainly a desirable place, and so they 1058 00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:52,840 Speaker 5: can pick and choose who they want to come on 1059 00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:56,120 Speaker 5: board now because they've had success. But I think when 1060 00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,440 Speaker 5: you're sitting where they are, they have to make sure 1061 00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,200 Speaker 5: they get the right fits. Fit is everything in all 1062 00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:03,600 Speaker 5: of this. And when we talk about fits is not 1063 00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:07,839 Speaker 5: just playing style. It's more so attitude. Does the attitude 1064 00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,120 Speaker 5: fit what you want to have in your program because 1065 00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:13,360 Speaker 5: of the attitude doesn't fit as pointless, they have to 1066 00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:17,160 Speaker 5: be right fits culturally or it's not gonna work right. 1067 00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:20,200 Speaker 2: You know what, You made a great point about the portal, 1068 00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:22,279 Speaker 2: and I mentioned it at the other day and I 1069 00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:23,160 Speaker 2: credited you. 1070 00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:25,640 Speaker 1: I really do, because it was ingenius. It really was. 1071 00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:29,399 Speaker 2: I never thought about this. You know, obviously kids who 1072 00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:31,719 Speaker 2: are in the portal. There's a good percentage of those 1073 00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:34,520 Speaker 2: kids that are in the portal that are disgruntled. They're 1074 00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:36,960 Speaker 2: disgruntled you I mean you mentioned this. I mean and 1075 00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:40,080 Speaker 2: a general manager perhaps in the NFL, or a personnel 1076 00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,440 Speaker 2: guy or even a college coaches say, you know, the 1077 00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:46,279 Speaker 2: guy didn't play on Team X kind of could be 1078 00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:51,120 Speaker 2: a troublemaker. Maybe he's a moody kid, he doesn't get along, 1079 00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:53,719 Speaker 2: that's why he's in the portal. Really, I mean think 1080 00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:55,759 Speaker 2: about that. I mean, obviously, kids could be in the 1081 00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,480 Speaker 2: portal for several reasons. Number one, they want more money, 1082 00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:00,960 Speaker 2: they're gonna get money beat, they want a bigger program. 1083 00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,400 Speaker 2: But more often than not, those are in the portal, 1084 00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:05,360 Speaker 2: the ones that probably are not happy and not playing. 1085 00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,000 Speaker 2: They're disgruntled, right, you don't want them on your roster. 1086 00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:12,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean there's a lot too that there's a 1087 00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:13,759 Speaker 5: reason why they're in the portal. So the first thing 1088 00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:14,959 Speaker 5: that you have to do is you got to figure 1089 00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,360 Speaker 5: out why they're in the portal, Why you're in the portal, 1090 00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:22,360 Speaker 5: Why are you upset? What made you leave all of 1091 00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:24,520 Speaker 5: those things? Because all of that matters when it comes 1092 00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:26,600 Speaker 5: down to it, Like you want to be able to 1093 00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:31,680 Speaker 5: have a conversation with them about the way that they 1094 00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,799 Speaker 5: fit and are they an excuse maker or are they 1095 00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:38,279 Speaker 5: willing to take some accountability for whatever may have led 1096 00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:41,359 Speaker 5: to their desire to leave in those things, because if 1097 00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:44,840 Speaker 5: someone is going to leave at the first sign of 1098 00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,239 Speaker 5: trouble in those things, look they're gonna do it at 1099 00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:49,960 Speaker 5: your spot too, So you just got to make sure 1100 00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:54,360 Speaker 5: you understand who you're getting, what they're bringing to the table, 1101 00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:58,800 Speaker 5: and does that really fit does their work Well. 1102 00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:00,879 Speaker 2: I'm going to leave you with this. I really feel 1103 00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:03,560 Speaker 2: bare for killing the Boor. I think he's a heck 1104 00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:06,680 Speaker 2: of a coach. His track record proves that Alabama now 1105 00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:08,880 Speaker 2: has eight total losses over the last two years. 1106 00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:10,680 Speaker 1: It's amazing. 1107 00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:13,640 Speaker 2: Really that number is the same number of losses over 1108 00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:15,440 Speaker 2: the five previous years combined. 1109 00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:19,399 Speaker 1: It's amazing. The dynasty was beginning to kind of shake 1110 00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:22,120 Speaker 1: a little bit under Nick Saban, but not like this. 1111 00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:25,240 Speaker 1: I mean, they've really almost hate to say rock bottom, 1112 00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:28,640 Speaker 1: but the latest loss for the Boer was the most 1113 00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:31,600 Speaker 1: embarrassing of his career. He entered twenty twenty five with 1114 00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:34,839 Speaker 1: a fifteen to three career record against nationally rank competition 1115 00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:37,920 Speaker 1: as a head coach and an eighty three winning percentage 1116 00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:41,560 Speaker 1: against Power four teams. Great coach, there's no doubt about that. 1117 00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:44,800 Speaker 1: But to go to a program that fans are. 1118 00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:48,520 Speaker 2: Just ridiculous, they really are, and the pressure there's gotta 1119 00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:51,319 Speaker 2: be unreal. I could imagine the hate mail that he 1120 00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:54,879 Speaker 2: is getting and what he's seen on social media. It's 1121 00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:57,000 Speaker 2: not right, it's not fair, but it goes with the territory, 1122 00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:57,520 Speaker 2: no doubt. 1123 00:51:59,440 --> 00:51:59,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1124 00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:01,960 Speaker 5: I mean like he stepped in for a legend and 1125 00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:06,640 Speaker 5: they are high standards for what they want from their 1126 00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:10,600 Speaker 5: program in Alabama, and right now, certainly it's not meeting 1127 00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:13,520 Speaker 5: those expectations. But it doesn't mean that he can't turn 1128 00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:17,360 Speaker 5: it around. It's Look, it's a hard program, competition is deep, 1129 00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:20,960 Speaker 5: and it's a new landscape. Nick Saban got out at 1130 00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:24,440 Speaker 5: the right time because, yeah, everything is different with the portal, 1131 00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:27,600 Speaker 5: the money and all those things. It just changes. It 1132 00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:30,080 Speaker 5: changes how you go about doing business, no. 1133 00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:32,120 Speaker 2: Doubt about that. I'm moving to the NFL. Now, Okay, 1134 00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:34,719 Speaker 2: enough of college. We gave Indiana that just do when 1135 00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:37,920 Speaker 2: they deserve right now, NFC number one was determined last night. 1136 00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:40,759 Speaker 2: Seattle beat up on San Francisco to forty nine is 1137 00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:45,200 Speaker 2: thirteen to three. And if look now that the forty 1138 00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:46,840 Speaker 2: nine is lost, they're going to be the number. 1139 00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:47,600 Speaker 1: Five seed. 1140 00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:51,759 Speaker 2: Or number six, depending on whether the Rams win or 1141 00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:54,279 Speaker 2: lose today. All right, but let's take a quick look 1142 00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:56,160 Speaker 2: at some of the teams that what's happening right now. 1143 00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:58,880 Speaker 2: The Denver Broncos are thirteen and three. They play the 1144 00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,760 Speaker 2: Charges today. They beat up on Kansas City on Christmas 1145 00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:04,000 Speaker 2: Night and with that win, the Broncos remained number one 1146 00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:06,840 Speaker 2: in the conference and now at the AFC West Division 1147 00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:10,480 Speaker 2: winners after Detections beat the Chargers Denver. Give me a 1148 00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:12,440 Speaker 2: little background, Denver, how far do you think they're going 1149 00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:15,880 Speaker 2: to go? Surprising team? And how come their coaching staff 1150 00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:18,600 Speaker 2: and the coach head coach right there is not looked 1151 00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:20,480 Speaker 2: on as coach of the year because he's done a 1152 00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:21,920 Speaker 2: heck of a job I think in Denver. 1153 00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:24,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, Champagon's done a great job in Denver. 1154 00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:27,480 Speaker 5: I think the reason why cham Payton is viewed as 1155 00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:29,239 Speaker 5: a Coach of the Year candidate is because last year 1156 00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:32,120 Speaker 5: they had a top rated defense and that has continued 1157 00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:34,440 Speaker 5: to be one of the driving forces behind their success. 1158 00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:37,239 Speaker 5: So that's probably why. But they're really good, really good 1159 00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:40,000 Speaker 5: on defense. They're sticky in the back end, they get 1160 00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:43,080 Speaker 5: after the quarterback, lead the league in sacks, and then 1161 00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:46,840 Speaker 5: on offense, Boat Knicks does a terrific job of managing 1162 00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:50,640 Speaker 5: the game, but he also has some playmaking ability, very athletic, 1163 00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:53,520 Speaker 5: does a great job of running Sean Payton's offense, and 1164 00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:56,160 Speaker 5: he's shown in the fourth quarter he has some magic 1165 00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:59,200 Speaker 5: about him where he can get it done. Really good team, 1166 00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:01,080 Speaker 5: I mean is a really good team and when they 1167 00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:03,440 Speaker 5: play at home, they have all the advantages. Thinking are 1168 00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:05,319 Speaker 5: tough out in the postseason, no. 1169 00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:05,880 Speaker 1: Doubt about that. 1170 00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:07,520 Speaker 2: I think the New England Patriots may be a tough 1171 00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:09,279 Speaker 2: out as well. They're thirteen and three. They got the 1172 00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:12,920 Speaker 2: Dolphins today. Last week they blew out the Jets, and 1173 00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:15,279 Speaker 2: you know the play of Jets and Dolphins back to back. 1174 00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:15,799 Speaker 1: There's two wins. 1175 00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:17,799 Speaker 2: So they could basically take a little bit of a 1176 00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:20,080 Speaker 2: rest right now because they've already clinched a playoff berth 1177 00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:24,160 Speaker 2: in Week sixteen? Are they now the AFC East Champs 1178 00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:28,000 Speaker 2: thanks to the events of Week seventeen because the Eagles 1179 00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:30,720 Speaker 2: beat up on the Bills and they locked up the division. 1180 00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:33,400 Speaker 2: So New England's still alive for a number one seed. 1181 00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:35,480 Speaker 2: Tell me a little bit about New England. How far 1182 00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:37,399 Speaker 2: do you think they could go? And obviously their coach, 1183 00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:39,319 Speaker 2: I have a feeling he may be getting the Coach 1184 00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:41,360 Speaker 2: of the Year rab. 1185 00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:43,920 Speaker 5: Maybe maybe so, because it may be a combos thing. 1186 00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:46,440 Speaker 5: It may be Drake Mayf MVP and Mike Rabel for 1187 00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:49,080 Speaker 5: Coach of the Year. This is a team that has 1188 00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:53,360 Speaker 5: quickly bounced back and become a heavyweight contender. One of 1189 00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:55,560 Speaker 5: the things that Mike Rabel did very early is he 1190 00:54:55,600 --> 00:55:00,480 Speaker 5: connected with his players. The chemistry is outstanding between players 1191 00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:04,240 Speaker 5: and coaches. The talent that they brought in on defense 1192 00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:06,839 Speaker 5: not necessarily a lot of blue chippers, but they brought 1193 00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:10,440 Speaker 5: in a lot of veterans with experience that are great 1194 00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:13,360 Speaker 5: in their respective roles. That has helped. But the biggest 1195 00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:17,280 Speaker 5: thing has been Josh McDaniels coming over as the offensive coordinator, 1196 00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:20,360 Speaker 5: helping Drake may play at an MVP level. They are efficient, 1197 00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:22,760 Speaker 5: they are able to win in a variety of ways. 1198 00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:24,920 Speaker 5: When it comes to the passing game, he gets them 1199 00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:26,600 Speaker 5: in and out of the right play, but he's also 1200 00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:30,200 Speaker 5: willing to take whatever is available. His maturity as a 1201 00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:34,200 Speaker 5: franchise quarterback is beyond his years and experience, which is 1202 00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,279 Speaker 5: why it works. When you got a great head coach 1203 00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:38,040 Speaker 5: and a great quarterback, you have a chance. And the 1204 00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:39,080 Speaker 5: Patriots have both. 1205 00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:41,640 Speaker 1: All right, I didn't forget you, and you have a 1206 00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:42,240 Speaker 1: great coach. 1207 00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:46,000 Speaker 2: You're home today, your Jags twelve and four hosting today 1208 00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:49,719 Speaker 2: the Titans Titans three and thirteen. You beat up on 1209 00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:52,920 Speaker 2: the coach last week, and you could clinch AFC South 1210 00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:55,200 Speaker 2: with that win today over the Titans. 1211 00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:57,759 Speaker 1: Right, Well, they must be going nuts in Jacksonville. 1212 00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:01,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, going that's to a point. 1213 00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:03,359 Speaker 5: I mean, there's a lot of excitement and a lot 1214 00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:06,560 Speaker 5: of buzz about this, But I would say that the 1215 00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:09,160 Speaker 5: team has taken on the personality of the coach, still 1216 00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:10,799 Speaker 5: locked in on the next game, and this is the 1217 00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:13,200 Speaker 5: most important game in franchise history because it's the next 1218 00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:15,240 Speaker 5: one and if they win it, they have an opportunity 1219 00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:17,080 Speaker 5: to have a home game. You don't know what's going 1220 00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:18,920 Speaker 5: to happen ahead of you in terms of the Broncos 1221 00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:20,759 Speaker 5: and the Patriots. If both of those teams fault, they 1222 00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:23,000 Speaker 5: can win the number one seed. So they just have 1223 00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:23,399 Speaker 5: to play. 1224 00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:24,880 Speaker 3: They have to do where they've continued to do. 1225 00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:26,840 Speaker 5: Stacker plays on top of each other and see what 1226 00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:29,560 Speaker 5: it looks like at the end. But yeah, the arrow 1227 00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:32,440 Speaker 5: is pointing up on the Jaguars because their coach is 1228 00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:36,160 Speaker 5: the real deal and this team is playing well behind 1229 00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:38,160 Speaker 5: the resurgence of Trevor Lawrence. 1230 00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:40,880 Speaker 2: All Right, we got to use this is an amazing 1231 00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:43,880 Speaker 2: story because the Cincinnati Bengals, So at one time I 1232 00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:46,000 Speaker 2: think we're oning three, but so with the Houston Texans. 1233 00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:47,839 Speaker 2: But the Texans are going to the playoffs and they're 1234 00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:50,799 Speaker 2: eleven to five. They've won eight straight games and they're 1235 00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:53,360 Speaker 2: going to the playoffs. And they extended that winning street. 1236 00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:55,319 Speaker 2: They beat up on the Chargers on the road, which 1237 00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:58,240 Speaker 2: is a big win. And they're alive in the AFC South. 1238 00:56:58,760 --> 00:56:59,600 Speaker 2: So we'll see what happens. 1239 00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:00,000 Speaker 1: Right now. 1240 00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:03,200 Speaker 2: You talk about great defensive Seattle's right up there, Denver's 1241 00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:04,839 Speaker 2: up there, and I think the Texans are right there 1242 00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:05,280 Speaker 2: as well. 1243 00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:09,279 Speaker 5: Look, the Texans are up there. The Texans are one 1244 00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:10,719 Speaker 5: of the best team in football. And when you look 1245 00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:13,000 Speaker 5: at the Texans, I believe they're the scariest team in 1246 00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:15,680 Speaker 5: the AFC because their defense is what we call they 1247 00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:19,160 Speaker 5: shut them down defense. They can win upfront with the 1248 00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:23,400 Speaker 5: Neil Hunter and Will Anderson dominating, they can lock you 1249 00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:25,720 Speaker 5: down in the back end with They're Stingley in Company 1250 00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:29,880 Speaker 5: blanketing coverage, and then they're physical with their linebackers setting 1251 00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:34,360 Speaker 5: the tone. Offensively, they're a little more scattershot in terms 1252 00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:36,680 Speaker 5: of how they go about it, but because their defense 1253 00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:41,040 Speaker 5: can hold any team under twenty points, They're always in 1254 00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:44,320 Speaker 5: the game and they make you play on their turns. 1255 00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:47,480 Speaker 5: When you play the Texans, it's gonna be an ugly game. 1256 00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:50,640 Speaker 5: There's not gonna be any rhythm to it. It's gonna 1257 00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:54,600 Speaker 5: be hard for you to do anything offensively, and that 1258 00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:58,560 Speaker 5: gives their offense enough cracks, enough bite set the apple 1259 00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:00,600 Speaker 5: until they kind of figure it out been able to 1260 00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:03,040 Speaker 5: do that. So regards to who they play is rather 1261 00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:05,840 Speaker 5: they blow a team out, but everyone is gonna stoop 1262 00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:07,360 Speaker 5: down to their level and have to play in the 1263 00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:10,080 Speaker 5: muck in the mud as they like to play. 1264 00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:11,320 Speaker 1: This gets a little crazy. 1265 00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:14,080 Speaker 2: But if you're Jacksonville Jacks lose to the Titans today, 1266 00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:17,240 Speaker 2: Detections are the AFC South champs. 1267 00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:19,200 Speaker 1: And they'll get their number three playoff seed. 1268 00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:22,000 Speaker 2: All right, So you see about thereby, I don't think 1269 00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:23,800 Speaker 2: you're Jacksonville Jags are losing today. 1270 00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:27,480 Speaker 3: I'm just saying, all right, well, I'll be sad. I 1271 00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:28,360 Speaker 3: don't want to be sad at. 1272 00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:30,280 Speaker 2: I don't want you to be sad. No, I'll be 1273 00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:32,760 Speaker 2: pulling for you, no doubt about that, all right. The 1274 00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:35,920 Speaker 2: Los Angeles Chargers eleven and five. I can't figure this 1275 00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:38,680 Speaker 2: team out. They had their four game winning streak snapped. 1276 00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:43,680 Speaker 2: They lost against the Texans mentioned and they're probably gonna arrest. 1277 00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:45,280 Speaker 1: Most of their players today. All right. 1278 00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:49,080 Speaker 2: They're playing at the Broncos, so I don't think it 1279 00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:52,040 Speaker 2: means much. They're gonna rest the players with players I guess, right, 1280 00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:54,600 Speaker 2: they're eleven and five, and what else could they do. 1281 00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:57,960 Speaker 1: Right, I just think they'll just rest those guys. We're 1282 00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:01,520 Speaker 1: not going to see many starters today. 1283 00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:04,680 Speaker 3: I look, they're resting everybody. 1284 00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:06,720 Speaker 5: They're opting to make sure they have everybody available for 1285 00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:08,840 Speaker 5: the postseason, which is fine. 1286 00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:09,600 Speaker 3: They lost out. 1287 00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:11,720 Speaker 5: Last week on a chance to win the division, so 1288 00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:14,640 Speaker 5: they're making the decision to let Justin Herbert and some 1289 00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:16,400 Speaker 5: of the other guys get healthy, and they're gonna take 1290 00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:19,160 Speaker 5: on teams in the playoffs and one day they have 1291 00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:22,160 Speaker 5: to go on the road to get it done. We'll 1292 00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:24,720 Speaker 5: see how it works out, you know, like you can 1293 00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:26,520 Speaker 5: line it up and get those things ready, but it 1294 00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:28,480 Speaker 5: comes down to being able to exche you in the postseason. 1295 00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:31,640 Speaker 5: So however they see fit, they'll be judged on how 1296 00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:33,680 Speaker 5: they perform next weekend. All right. 1297 00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:35,960 Speaker 1: The Buffalo Bills are hosting the Jest today. 1298 00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:38,600 Speaker 2: The Bills are eleven and five, they lost to the 1299 00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:42,520 Speaker 2: Eagles in the week seventeen. Then that loss eliminated them 1300 00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:45,560 Speaker 2: from winning the AFC East and it moved them now 1301 00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:48,960 Speaker 2: to the number seven seas. But they have the they 1302 00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:51,080 Speaker 2: have the playoff brods, so it's not a big deal. 1303 00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:52,960 Speaker 2: I don't think like you say. What you're gonna do 1304 00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:55,720 Speaker 2: is get into the playoffs. So we're gonna see if 1305 00:59:55,760 --> 01:00:01,040 Speaker 2: they're gonna choose between rest overseed positioning today against the Jets. 1306 01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:03,480 Speaker 2: What do you think, although I think I read somewhere 1307 01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:06,440 Speaker 2: that Josh Allen will play today. 1308 01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:09,360 Speaker 5: Look, you've you the Buffalo Bills. You want to play 1309 01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:11,320 Speaker 5: at your best. You want to give yourself the best 1310 01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:15,680 Speaker 5: chance to go into the postseason with a little momentum. 1311 01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:18,200 Speaker 5: And if that requires you to put Josh Allen on 1312 01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:20,600 Speaker 5: the bench to make sure that he's healthy and available 1313 01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:23,520 Speaker 5: to play because his foot has been a big issue, 1314 01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:26,800 Speaker 5: you want him right because if he's right, he gives 1315 01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:29,560 Speaker 5: you the best chance of winning because it's going to 1316 01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:31,640 Speaker 5: be him having to be a superhero to get them 1317 01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:34,320 Speaker 5: to advance through the tournament. So do what you gotta do. 1318 01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:36,160 Speaker 5: Whether you're the six seed to seven seed, it doesn't 1319 01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:38,640 Speaker 5: really matter. You just want to make sure that number 1320 01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:40,320 Speaker 5: seventeen is healthy and available to go. 1321 01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:42,840 Speaker 1: Okay, the big Ones tonight. We're going to get into 1322 01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:43,680 Speaker 1: that a little later on. 1323 01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:46,480 Speaker 2: But the Ravens eight and eight there at Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh's 1324 01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:48,280 Speaker 2: nine and seven, and that game right now is for 1325 01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:51,040 Speaker 2: the AFC North title, so we'll see what happened. Then 1326 01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:55,600 Speaker 2: they played back I think in week thirteen and Baltimore 1327 01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:58,360 Speaker 2: came back, but they lost that game, so we'll see 1328 01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:00,880 Speaker 2: what happens. Then there could be the Swanson really for 1329 01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:03,120 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers and the two coaches. So we've got a 1330 01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:05,160 Speaker 2: lot to talk about with that and so much more. 1331 01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:07,880 Speaker 2: He's Bucky Brooks. Get him on X at Bucky Brooks 1332 01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:10,720 Speaker 2: or at Andy Furman FSR and again eight seven seven 1333 01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:12,840 Speaker 2: ninety nine one Fox, We love to hear from you. 1334 01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:15,120 Speaker 2: You can hear from the little dumper right there. He'll 1335 01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:17,560 Speaker 2: answer your phone call eight seven seven nine nine six 1336 01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:19,560 Speaker 2: sixty three sixty nine. And we've got the blame game 1337 01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:22,760 Speaker 2: at the end of this hour. But but does the 1338 01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:26,800 Speaker 2: losing coach from this game get handed at pink slip? 1339 01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:32,480 Speaker 2: That's next one coach has not one, not two, not three, 1340 01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:35,560 Speaker 2: not four, but five teams in the college football playoffs. 1341 01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:37,920 Speaker 2: That's right around the corner. All right, good morning everybody. 1342 01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:40,560 Speaker 2: This is Fox Football Sunday at Fox Sports Radio. He's 1343 01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:43,400 Speaker 2: Bucket Brooks and Andy Furman and we're broadcasting live from 1344 01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:45,880 Speaker 2: the Fox Sports Radio studios. And by the way, if 1345 01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:47,680 Speaker 2: you missed any of you today's show, you want to 1346 01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:50,440 Speaker 2: catch the podcast, just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you 1347 01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:53,840 Speaker 2: get your podcasts. Right after the show, today's podcast will 1348 01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:56,040 Speaker 2: be posted. To be sure to follow. The podcast rated 1349 01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:58,479 Speaker 2: five stars, and you could even provide a review. Again, 1350 01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:01,440 Speaker 2: just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts, 1351 01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:04,240 Speaker 2: and you'll find today's full show posted right. 1352 01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:05,840 Speaker 1: After we get off the al Right. 1353 01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:08,400 Speaker 2: I want to spend a few minutes on this because 1354 01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:10,400 Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks spent a lot of time on it. I 1355 01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:12,760 Speaker 2: think it's well worth it, well worth the read, and 1356 01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:15,680 Speaker 2: it's quite interesting because in this time of the year, 1357 01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:18,840 Speaker 2: everybody's still about Coach of the Year m VP. Bucky 1358 01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:21,760 Speaker 2: Brooks was smart enough to go back and review the 1359 01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:23,600 Speaker 2: top rookies on NFL dot com. 1360 01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:25,200 Speaker 1: Is that correct? And how did you do it? 1361 01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:27,160 Speaker 2: I want to know how you judge this thing, because 1362 01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:30,840 Speaker 2: this is a pretty tough category to locate and find 1363 01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:32,960 Speaker 2: out how these guys did, how they improved. 1364 01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:36,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, you have to talk around and talk to people 1365 01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:39,479 Speaker 5: about the most impactful rookie classes, and some of those 1366 01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:42,240 Speaker 5: you can just see. You saw the impact that the 1367 01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:46,000 Speaker 5: Browns rookies had on their team, and there I can't 1368 01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:48,360 Speaker 5: even call success their performance this year. You look at 1369 01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:50,439 Speaker 5: Atlanta foul because then what their past rush was able 1370 01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:52,960 Speaker 5: to do. So you try and look and evaluate and 1371 01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:56,640 Speaker 5: see who had the biggest impact on their squads as 1372 01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:58,440 Speaker 5: you kind of go back and review the entire season. 1373 01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:03,920 Speaker 2: Okay, so he ask this the success Is that a 1374 01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:06,720 Speaker 2: coincidence or if you have a general manager or a 1375 01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:10,160 Speaker 2: personnel guy who has a nose for talent, is that 1376 01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:10,520 Speaker 2: the way? 1377 01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:12,360 Speaker 1: Or is it luck? I don't know. 1378 01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:16,040 Speaker 2: I mean, because again I live in the Cincinnati area. 1379 01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:19,480 Speaker 2: Bengals have gotten some pretty decent draft selections as far 1380 01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:22,440 Speaker 2: as picks, the number and the draft and a lot 1381 01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:25,240 Speaker 2: of them never panned out. Is that because just bad 1382 01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:27,320 Speaker 2: luck or these guys don't know who to pick? 1383 01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:30,000 Speaker 3: Combination of everything. 1384 01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:33,960 Speaker 5: There's some luck involved, but it's also the talent of 1385 01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:37,480 Speaker 5: the player, and then how the coaches develop a utilized 1386 01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:41,680 Speaker 5: the player. All of those things matter and you have 1387 01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:43,320 Speaker 5: to nail all three of them for the player to 1388 01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:45,960 Speaker 5: maximize his talent and to become the player that you 1389 01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:49,240 Speaker 5: envisioned him becoming when you take him at the top 1390 01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:52,080 Speaker 5: of the draft. So it's a combination of all those factors. 1391 01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:55,800 Speaker 2: Okay, you got a general manager in Seattle and John Schneider. 1392 01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:57,280 Speaker 2: He's done a whale of a job to turn the 1393 01:03:57,280 --> 01:03:59,680 Speaker 2: Seahawks around their thirteen and three and you've got them 1394 01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:00,640 Speaker 2: rank number. 1395 01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:01,400 Speaker 1: Five in the top five. 1396 01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:04,760 Speaker 2: Who is some of the stars on that rookie lineup 1397 01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:06,720 Speaker 2: and give me some of the names. 1398 01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:10,760 Speaker 5: Well, I mean like Gray's Abel starts Edgar for them, 1399 01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:13,280 Speaker 5: Nick Emnu Worry has done a really good job of 1400 01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:16,920 Speaker 5: coming in and helping them. Tory Horton, Elijah Royo. I mean, 1401 01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:19,320 Speaker 5: They've had a handful of young guys that have come in, 1402 01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:21,320 Speaker 5: but I would say the two main guys have been 1403 01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:24,680 Speaker 5: grates Able solidifying the interior of that offensive line, and 1404 01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:27,080 Speaker 5: then Nick and Man and Worry being able to be 1405 01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:31,439 Speaker 5: that Cam Chancellor like presence near the box. Their versatility, 1406 01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:35,320 Speaker 5: their ability to quickly adapted and simulate to the pro 1407 01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:37,800 Speaker 5: game has allowed the Seahawks to have a lot of success. 1408 01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:39,920 Speaker 5: All of the heels of If you look at the 1409 01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:43,080 Speaker 5: last three or four years when they've drafted their first 1410 01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:46,440 Speaker 5: and second round picks have been money. That helps a 1411 01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:48,440 Speaker 5: lot because you need to find your starters in the 1412 01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:49,560 Speaker 5: first and second rounds. 1413 01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:53,240 Speaker 1: What round was Jackson Smith and Jig drafted by by Seattle? 1414 01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:54,000 Speaker 3: This their receiver. 1415 01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:56,600 Speaker 5: Do you remember he was the first round pick a 1416 01:04:56,640 --> 01:05:00,920 Speaker 5: couple of years ago. He's a good player Ohio State. 1417 01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:02,600 Speaker 5: He played Ohio State at the same time. 1418 01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:03,400 Speaker 1: I remember him. 1419 01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:06,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, he's a great player. He's a great player. He 1420 01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:09,240 Speaker 5: didn't play his final season because he had injuries and 1421 01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:12,720 Speaker 5: those things. Yeah. I mean like they've had a run 1422 01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:15,680 Speaker 5: of receivers to come through there where it's easy for 1423 01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:16,840 Speaker 5: him to be overshadowed. 1424 01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:19,360 Speaker 1: Believe me, he was overshadowed in my mind, but not 1425 01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:20,640 Speaker 1: now that's for sure. All Right. 1426 01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:22,479 Speaker 2: You got the New England Patris. You got two teams 1427 01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:24,880 Speaker 2: that have turned it around this year. Seattle in New 1428 01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:28,440 Speaker 2: England rated five and four as far as great draft picks, 1429 01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:31,400 Speaker 2: and not only great draft picks, but immediate help that 1430 01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:32,560 Speaker 2: have come on that lineup. 1431 01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:37,200 Speaker 5: Right. Yeah, for the New England Patriots, since the offensive 1432 01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:40,360 Speaker 5: help around Drake, may they go and get to lineman, 1433 01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:44,479 Speaker 5: Will Camberl and j Wilson, who has success that left 1434 01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:46,960 Speaker 5: the left side of the airline of scrimmage is solidified. 1435 01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:49,960 Speaker 5: They've guys have played well as a tantem. They played 1436 01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:52,360 Speaker 5: well when Will Campbell's out and Wilson had to hold 1437 01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:54,120 Speaker 5: it down on his own. They've been able to do that. 1438 01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:57,440 Speaker 5: Travon Henderson has given him the explosive playmaker that they 1439 01:05:57,480 --> 01:06:00,840 Speaker 5: needed out of the backfield. And when we look at 1440 01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:04,200 Speaker 5: the success of the Patriots, it's the offensive line dominating 1441 01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:07,400 Speaker 5: and the permitter playmakers making a ton of big plays 1442 01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:10,440 Speaker 5: to have the quarterback play at a level that we 1443 01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:14,080 Speaker 5: didn't expect him to get to this soon, right. 1444 01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:16,280 Speaker 2: And another team that's turned it around the Chicago Bears. 1445 01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:17,640 Speaker 2: I right up there as well, you got them right 1446 01:06:17,720 --> 01:06:20,560 Speaker 2: number three. As far as rookies that have really made an. 1447 01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:24,360 Speaker 5: Impact, Yeah, And the common theme that you're seeing is 1448 01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:27,280 Speaker 5: teams that are successful in the draft, they nailed the 1449 01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:31,320 Speaker 5: first handful of picks, meaning your first, second, and sometimes 1450 01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:33,560 Speaker 5: your third round pick. Those guys are expected to be 1451 01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:37,160 Speaker 5: starters and key contributors. And what you're seeing is the 1452 01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:40,760 Speaker 5: Bears are getting that kind of contribution from their young guys. 1453 01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:43,960 Speaker 5: Early Coaston Loveland catching them all over the middlefield, Luther 1454 01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:45,880 Speaker 5: Burton being able to be an X factor in the 1455 01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:51,320 Speaker 5: passing game giving them what they need. Cal Manungai, the 1456 01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:54,760 Speaker 5: running back from Rutgers seventh round pick who has teamed 1457 01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:57,920 Speaker 5: up with DeAndre Swift to be a formidable tandem. 1458 01:06:58,240 --> 01:06:58,720 Speaker 3: They're good. 1459 01:06:58,760 --> 01:07:02,200 Speaker 5: And look, they got a kid, rookie Ozzie Tapio, who's 1460 01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:04,600 Speaker 5: been able to have success. So this is a really 1461 01:07:04,720 --> 01:07:09,080 Speaker 5: well constructed team. They've drafted well, they've acquired talent well 1462 01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:10,919 Speaker 5: and free agency, and then they got the right coach 1463 01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:12,560 Speaker 5: and Ben Johnson who has allowed at all to come 1464 01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:13,240 Speaker 5: to light. 1465 01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:16,560 Speaker 2: Okay, and the one team that really has not really 1466 01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:19,120 Speaker 2: geled yet with draft picks, and that may very well 1467 01:07:19,120 --> 01:07:21,400 Speaker 2: beb to go. See the quarterback situation, which really up 1468 01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:23,280 Speaker 2: in the air. The number one you have was a 1469 01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:25,720 Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns. But I tell you, and you've always been 1470 01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:28,440 Speaker 2: a should do Or Sanders fan, I'm a believer. I 1471 01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:29,760 Speaker 2: think that this guy should be a heck of a 1472 01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:31,320 Speaker 2: player in the National Football League. 1473 01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:35,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, but their success goes beyond what Sdeorg Sanders has done, 1474 01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:38,240 Speaker 5: and I think he's done a solid job and his 1475 01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:41,280 Speaker 5: limited opportunities he can still continue to cut back on 1476 01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:45,080 Speaker 5: so many interceptions, but the offense moves much better with 1477 01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:47,120 Speaker 5: him and to him than it did prior to that. 1478 01:07:48,040 --> 01:07:51,560 Speaker 5: It's the other guys that have really helped him. Mason Graham, 1479 01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:56,960 Speaker 5: Carson Swegender on defense are terrific offensively, every playmaker. This 1480 01:07:57,000 --> 01:07:59,160 Speaker 5: is the only team that has rookies lead them in passing, 1481 01:07:59,240 --> 01:08:02,080 Speaker 5: receiving and right. That shouldn't happen, but that is what's 1482 01:08:02,080 --> 01:08:06,440 Speaker 5: happening in Cleveland. Quinn, Shawn Judkins, Isaiah Bond, Dylan Sampson, 1483 01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:09,560 Speaker 5: Harrold Fanning Junior, all those guys that played really well 1484 01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:13,600 Speaker 5: in key moments. And you're optimistic, if you're a Browns fan, 1485 01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:16,840 Speaker 5: that this team can go to the next level. As 1486 01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:20,080 Speaker 5: this group continues to grow, and hopefully as they identify 1487 01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:23,160 Speaker 5: their franchise quarterback, they'll put the pieces in place to 1488 01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:25,080 Speaker 5: be very, very successful in a short time. 1489 01:08:25,479 --> 01:08:28,400 Speaker 1: And that's why Stefanski may remain. You may not get fired. 1490 01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:31,760 Speaker 5: I can't imagine him remaining because it's been a bit 1491 01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:34,519 Speaker 5: of a cluster, right. So for all the things, the 1492 01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:36,880 Speaker 5: number one question that you're going to have if your 1493 01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:40,519 Speaker 5: doer Sanders outplays Dylan Gabriel Why did it take so 1494 01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:42,240 Speaker 5: long to get to the point where you put your 1495 01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:47,040 Speaker 5: door in? Why all of this whatever this was with him? 1496 01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:51,240 Speaker 5: Why not give him reps during offseason, training camp and 1497 01:08:51,320 --> 01:08:54,080 Speaker 5: those things to see if he can compete at. 1498 01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:55,559 Speaker 3: A love with Dylan Gabriel. I think he has to 1499 01:08:55,600 --> 01:08:56,120 Speaker 3: answer to that. 1500 01:08:56,240 --> 01:08:58,880 Speaker 5: And let's be honest to records seven to twenty six 1501 01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:03,120 Speaker 5: last couple years. Yeah, it's hard to justify that part 1502 01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:05,360 Speaker 5: of it. I mean, you can if you want to, 1503 01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:08,880 Speaker 5: but it just appears that maybe the general managers stays 1504 01:09:08,920 --> 01:09:10,280 Speaker 5: and Kevin Stevanski. 1505 01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:12,800 Speaker 2: Goes there we go, okay, Speaking of coaches and pink slips, 1506 01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:16,200 Speaker 2: we talked about tonight's game Pittsburgh and Baltimore. Mike Tomlin 1507 01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:18,720 Speaker 2: and John Harbard. They say that the loser may lose 1508 01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:21,040 Speaker 2: his job. Pittsburgh nine and six, they're gonna host Baltimore 1509 01:09:21,080 --> 01:09:23,160 Speaker 2: eight and eight in a game that will determine which 1510 01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:25,920 Speaker 2: team wins the AFC North and also the playoffs spot 1511 01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:27,920 Speaker 2: that comes with it. And of course the Ravens. They 1512 01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:30,360 Speaker 2: started one in five, then they won five straight and 1513 01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:34,559 Speaker 2: they kind of got past Pittsburgh in the division standings 1514 01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:37,519 Speaker 2: that were one to three. Late season slide and I 1515 01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:39,559 Speaker 2: lost to Pittsburgh, hurt them a little bit, But now 1516 01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:41,640 Speaker 2: it's for all the marbles tonight, which is gonna be 1517 01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:44,000 Speaker 2: a great game. I would hope it would be. Baltimore 1518 01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:46,040 Speaker 2: needed to win in Green Bay last week and the 1519 01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:49,400 Speaker 2: Steelers lost in Cleveland the following Sunday last Sunday and 1520 01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:53,000 Speaker 2: now makes a winner take all game tonight Week eighteen 1521 01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:56,680 Speaker 2: showdown with Pittsburgh and then look, it's gonna be be 1522 01:09:56,720 --> 01:09:58,639 Speaker 2: a pretty good game. But it could be the last 1523 01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:00,560 Speaker 2: for one of those coaches, and maybe could be the 1524 01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:03,799 Speaker 2: last game for Aaron Rodgers. So I think the Ravens 1525 01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:07,840 Speaker 2: right now have the better team. I think Lamar's healthier. 1526 01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:09,519 Speaker 2: I don't think it's one hundred percent, but no one's 1527 01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:11,639 Speaker 2: one hundred percent this time of the year. I think 1528 01:10:11,680 --> 01:10:14,479 Speaker 2: Baltimore wins this game tonight. Yeah, who do you like 1529 01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:14,960 Speaker 2: in this game? 1530 01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:18,040 Speaker 1: Honestly? Because I just think they're just a better team. 1531 01:10:18,600 --> 01:10:21,920 Speaker 5: I mean, I'd say that with both teams, like, I 1532 01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:24,559 Speaker 5: have no idea which team is better. Which team is 1533 01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:27,639 Speaker 5: going to show up on paper? The Baltimore Ravens are 1534 01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:29,479 Speaker 5: the better team. When you look at the combination of 1535 01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:32,400 Speaker 5: Derrick Henry and Lamar Jackson. They should be able to 1536 01:10:32,439 --> 01:10:35,800 Speaker 5: run rough shot over any group. However, this is a 1537 01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:38,439 Speaker 5: team that sometimes forget that those two players are their 1538 01:10:38,479 --> 01:10:40,400 Speaker 5: best players, and they'll DEVI eight and start throwing the 1539 01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:43,840 Speaker 5: ball all over the yard and making mistakes and having turnovers, 1540 01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:47,720 Speaker 5: which then exposes their defense. Because their defense has struggled, 1541 01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:49,920 Speaker 5: and even though it's gotten better of late, they still 1542 01:10:49,960 --> 01:10:53,040 Speaker 5: aren't a shut them down, lock them down defense. They 1543 01:10:53,080 --> 01:10:56,799 Speaker 5: have some cracks. The problem if you're the Pittsburgh Stiller 1544 01:10:56,800 --> 01:11:00,240 Speaker 5: is without DK Metcalf, there is no one, no one 1545 01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:04,320 Speaker 5: in that offensive lineup that scars you, nobody that demands 1546 01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:05,320 Speaker 5: a double team. 1547 01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:07,320 Speaker 3: No one that demands you changed the way that you 1548 01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:08,320 Speaker 3: prefer to play. 1549 01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:11,320 Speaker 5: It's gonna be tough sledding for the Pittsburgh Steelers tonight 1550 01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:15,000 Speaker 5: unless their defense comes up and just throws and pay 1551 01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:18,320 Speaker 5: some masterpiece. I don't see that happening. I think it's look, 1552 01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:20,880 Speaker 5: I think we've done so when it comes to the Steelers. 1553 01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:23,680 Speaker 2: Okay, but I don't think Mike Tomlin's gone. They were 1554 01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:26,960 Speaker 2: six and six this year after twelve games. Everybody went 1555 01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:29,680 Speaker 2: nut to cleave and Roethlisberger. Tomlin has two more years 1556 01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:32,120 Speaker 2: in his current contract. And the Steelers, I guess they 1557 01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:34,160 Speaker 2: have until March first to pick up his option for 1558 01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:35,040 Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven. 1559 01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:35,960 Speaker 1: But here's the deal. 1560 01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:39,400 Speaker 2: The Pittsburgh Steelers have not fired a head coach since 1561 01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:42,880 Speaker 2: nineteen forty one, So the thought of Mike Tomlin getting 1562 01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:46,760 Speaker 2: fired is kind of like a gray area. I don't 1563 01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:49,000 Speaker 2: think it's gonna happen. I just don't think Mike tom 1564 01:11:49,160 --> 01:11:50,960 Speaker 2: So Hall of Fame coach. He's not getting fired. 1565 01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:53,080 Speaker 3: No, he's not getting fired. 1566 01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:57,480 Speaker 5: In their organization that is proud of themselves on their consistency, 1567 01:11:57,600 --> 01:12:00,320 Speaker 5: their stability, that has led to a lot of their success. 1568 01:12:00,680 --> 01:12:01,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's not gonna change. 1569 01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:03,559 Speaker 5: I think that's going to continue to be a big 1570 01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:04,920 Speaker 5: part of who they are. 1571 01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:06,880 Speaker 3: Their blueprint. That's it. 1572 01:12:07,880 --> 01:12:10,360 Speaker 5: They cannot keep falling apart at the end of seasons 1573 01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:12,599 Speaker 5: like they have. Back to back years they've fallen apart. 1574 01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:15,720 Speaker 5: If they don't make the playoffs like they've had this 1575 01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:19,760 Speaker 5: late season swoon, that'd be problematic. And if they do 1576 01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:21,679 Speaker 5: go to the playoffs and they don't win a playoff game, 1577 01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:25,720 Speaker 5: that's another year that they've gone with winning a playoff game. Regardless, 1578 01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:28,240 Speaker 5: they have to they have to do some spring cleaning. 1579 01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:30,160 Speaker 5: They have to freshen up a little bit and kind 1580 01:12:30,200 --> 01:12:32,000 Speaker 5: of figure out how they can get to get younger. 1581 01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:35,400 Speaker 5: This malays this malaise that they're in yet right now. 1582 01:12:35,439 --> 01:12:37,479 Speaker 2: If they lose tonight. The Steelers lose tonight, it will 1583 01:12:37,479 --> 01:12:41,120 Speaker 2: be the ninth straight year without a playoff win. Pretty 1584 01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:43,719 Speaker 2: long drought, okay, And it will be the Steelers second 1585 01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:47,000 Speaker 2: season without a playoff win since Mike Tomlins signed his 1586 01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:48,000 Speaker 2: most recent contract. 1587 01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:50,160 Speaker 1: So we'll see what happens there. But all about Harbor. 1588 01:12:50,320 --> 01:12:52,920 Speaker 2: When Harbar and Tomlin have in common, they're both super 1589 01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:55,360 Speaker 2: win They both have won a Super Bowl, which is great. 1590 01:12:55,479 --> 01:12:59,200 Speaker 2: As far as Halbar's concerned, I guess he hasn't won 1591 01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:03,000 Speaker 2: enough for the fans, right and he's had playoffs success, 1592 01:13:03,280 --> 01:13:05,720 Speaker 2: but in the playoffs he hasn't done much. You've gone 1593 01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:07,360 Speaker 2: to the playoffs, but they haven't done much once they 1594 01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:07,760 Speaker 2: get there. 1595 01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:14,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean they've had that, They've been snake bitten. 1596 01:13:14,120 --> 01:13:15,720 Speaker 5: They just haven't been able to get it done. They've 1597 01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:19,040 Speaker 5: had some unfortunate bounces go against them, but no excuses. 1598 01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:20,040 Speaker 3: They got to perform better. 1599 01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:23,439 Speaker 5: You got to think a team with an MVP caliber 1600 01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:26,519 Speaker 5: quarterback and Lamar Jackson would be able to be there 1601 01:13:26,920 --> 01:13:29,120 Speaker 5: a ton. They just haven't gotten it done. So that 1602 01:13:29,160 --> 01:13:31,080 Speaker 5: falls on him because he's the head. 1603 01:13:30,840 --> 01:13:31,679 Speaker 3: Coach of the team. 1604 01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:35,040 Speaker 5: But I just can't see moving off from him because 1605 01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:38,880 Speaker 5: my question in both of those instances, Tomlin and there. 1606 01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:40,400 Speaker 3: Are who you're going to hire this better? 1607 01:13:41,520 --> 01:13:43,599 Speaker 5: Who can you hire that is guaranteed to be better 1608 01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:47,000 Speaker 5: in those circumstances and those things like that's the one thing. 1609 01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:49,240 Speaker 5: It's great to fire people, but now you've got to 1610 01:13:49,280 --> 01:13:52,880 Speaker 5: hire somebody. And are you hiring somebody that's guaranteed you 1611 01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:56,240 Speaker 5: better results short term and long term? I don't know. 1612 01:13:57,320 --> 01:13:58,280 Speaker 3: I have no idea either. 1613 01:13:58,280 --> 01:13:59,280 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what we move on. 1614 01:13:59,479 --> 01:14:01,400 Speaker 2: I met you coming into this segment that there was 1615 01:14:01,439 --> 01:14:03,599 Speaker 2: there's one coach that has five teams in the college 1616 01:14:03,640 --> 01:14:06,040 Speaker 2: football playoffs, And I want to answer that question right now. 1617 01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:08,679 Speaker 2: I'm sure you know the answer. But Kirby Smart, Georgia, 1618 01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:11,960 Speaker 2: Dan Lanning, Old Miss Peak going old Miss Dan Lanning, Oregon, 1619 01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:16,240 Speaker 2: Kurt Signetti, Indiana, Maria Crystobald Miami. They have all worked 1620 01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:19,479 Speaker 2: as assistance under former Alabama coach Nick Saban. 1621 01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:20,160 Speaker 1: That's pretty good. 1622 01:14:20,439 --> 01:14:23,120 Speaker 2: So there's the one coach's got five had five because 1623 01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:25,200 Speaker 2: some of them are out. Kirby's out of there, but 1624 01:14:26,120 --> 01:14:29,160 Speaker 2: he had five coaches in the playoffs and they all 1625 01:14:29,200 --> 01:14:31,360 Speaker 2: work for Nick Saban. Says a lot for Nick Saban 1626 01:14:31,479 --> 01:14:33,120 Speaker 2: really does. So there's the answer. 1627 01:14:33,240 --> 01:14:35,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, it says a lot about him. 1628 01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:38,559 Speaker 5: When I've asked people about him, his process is playing 1629 01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:41,280 Speaker 5: why does it work? And the best way to describe it, 1630 01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:44,880 Speaker 5: They're like, man, it's like your grandma making her favorite 1631 01:14:45,160 --> 01:14:48,840 Speaker 5: oatmeal cookie recipe. Like he has methods that are tried 1632 01:14:48,880 --> 01:14:51,080 Speaker 5: and true. It never changes and as long as you 1633 01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:54,280 Speaker 5: don't mess with the recipe, it'll always work. But in 1634 01:14:54,360 --> 01:14:56,400 Speaker 5: doing that, you got to make sure you do it 1635 01:14:56,439 --> 01:15:01,080 Speaker 5: with your own personal touch. Kirk Signetti has followed the blueprint, 1636 01:15:01,240 --> 01:15:04,559 Speaker 5: but he does it within his own personality and that's 1637 01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:06,920 Speaker 5: the key to all of these guys having success. 1638 01:15:07,320 --> 01:15:08,080 Speaker 3: They may have the. 1639 01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:11,560 Speaker 5: Infrastructure that they have learned from Nick Saban and Alabama, 1640 01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:13,760 Speaker 5: but they all are doing it their own way, which 1641 01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:15,360 Speaker 5: is why it's been successful for them. 1642 01:15:15,960 --> 01:15:18,599 Speaker 2: Here we go, he is Bucky Brooks and Andy Furrman 1643 01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:20,519 Speaker 2: with live from the Fox Best Radio Studios, and now 1644 01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:23,400 Speaker 2: it's time to let some's team is really let some 1645 01:15:23,560 --> 01:15:26,800 Speaker 2: steam out of it? How why the blame game is 1646 01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:30,639 Speaker 2: freaking next. Alrighty, they got the blame game right around 1647 01:15:30,720 --> 01:15:31,680 Speaker 2: the corner and Stevie won. 1648 01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:34,080 Speaker 1: That takes us into the blame game. And he's Bucky Brooks. 1649 01:15:34,280 --> 01:15:36,080 Speaker 2: I'm Andy Furman, and we're live from the Fox Best 1650 01:15:36,160 --> 01:15:38,280 Speaker 2: Radio studios. And by the way, at the top of 1651 01:15:38,320 --> 01:15:40,640 Speaker 2: the hour, about maybe twelve minutes from now, there were 1652 01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:43,080 Speaker 2: the eight am on the East Coast, Greg Coach Sell 1653 01:15:43,160 --> 01:15:46,439 Speaker 2: and Mike Harmon will be chatting talking football what else, 1654 01:15:46,479 --> 01:15:49,360 Speaker 2: of course on Fox Sports Radio. And we want to 1655 01:15:49,360 --> 01:15:52,360 Speaker 2: think a little dupper today filling in as our executive 1656 01:15:52,439 --> 01:15:54,400 Speaker 2: do thank you, thank you so much. 1657 01:15:54,439 --> 01:15:57,720 Speaker 1: I beg you, Clint. I'm glad. All is well, all right, 1658 01:15:57,760 --> 01:16:01,040 Speaker 1: but right now it's time four the playing game. You 1659 01:16:01,320 --> 01:16:04,880 Speaker 1: ruined me. It's all your fault. No, it's your fault. 1660 01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:12,320 Speaker 1: What is all your fault? Maybe it's everyone's faults. 1661 01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:15,120 Speaker 4: She's a liar. That's why there's the blame game, the 1662 01:16:15,160 --> 01:16:15,719 Speaker 4: blame game. 1663 01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:19,559 Speaker 1: Let's figure out who to blame. He's a liar. 1664 01:16:19,680 --> 01:16:22,360 Speaker 2: Oh, hey, little duffer, you know how to play? 1665 01:16:22,439 --> 01:16:25,120 Speaker 7: Oh I know how to play. Well, it's time to 1666 01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:29,080 Speaker 7: play the blame game. Everybody. With that said, let's get 1667 01:16:29,120 --> 01:16:32,840 Speaker 7: on to it. So guys, Ohio State spent thirty five 1668 01:16:32,920 --> 01:16:37,479 Speaker 7: million on a football team and lost to Indiana. Yikes, 1669 01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:38,320 Speaker 7: who do. 1670 01:16:38,320 --> 01:16:39,240 Speaker 1: You blame for that? 1671 01:16:39,320 --> 01:16:39,759 Speaker 3: Andy? 1672 01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:41,519 Speaker 1: You know what? 1673 01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:44,760 Speaker 2: It all goes down to the CEO of the organization. 1674 01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:46,519 Speaker 2: I'm gonna blame Ryan Day. Let me tell you why 1675 01:16:46,520 --> 01:16:48,800 Speaker 2: I blame Ryan Day. You know, God bless him. He's 1676 01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:51,200 Speaker 2: a heck of a coach. He's going through some living 1677 01:16:51,200 --> 01:16:54,320 Speaker 2: hell right now. But he went to a business meeting 1678 01:16:54,360 --> 01:16:58,519 Speaker 2: about a year ago in Columbus begging these top businessmen 1679 01:16:58,600 --> 01:17:01,479 Speaker 2: in the Columbus area from money for his program. And 1680 01:17:01,520 --> 01:17:04,120 Speaker 2: that's okay, because that's what you need to survive. But 1681 01:17:04,320 --> 01:17:07,400 Speaker 2: keep it quiet. It went public and no one had 1682 01:17:07,439 --> 01:17:10,080 Speaker 2: to know how much money they're spending. And they spent 1683 01:17:10,200 --> 01:17:12,760 Speaker 2: thirty five mil for that football team. I don't know 1684 01:17:12,760 --> 01:17:14,720 Speaker 2: how much Indiana has spent. I don't know how much 1685 01:17:14,760 --> 01:17:17,040 Speaker 2: anybody else has spent, but we know how much Ohio 1686 01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:19,519 Speaker 2: State spent, and it's really biting them in the rear ends. 1687 01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:22,759 Speaker 1: So Ryan Day asked for the money. But do it quietly, 1688 01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:24,040 Speaker 1: all right, It's on you. 1689 01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:28,920 Speaker 5: There's no such thing as quietly asking for money. Because 1690 01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:31,800 Speaker 5: all the players in their agents tell people what they're doing. 1691 01:17:32,160 --> 01:17:33,840 Speaker 5: The main thing that you have to do in this 1692 01:17:33,960 --> 01:17:36,280 Speaker 5: climate is you have to find ways to win games. 1693 01:17:36,320 --> 01:17:39,120 Speaker 5: And unfortunately for Ohio State, they didn't win the games. 1694 01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:39,479 Speaker 3: They mattered. 1695 01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:41,879 Speaker 5: They lost the Big Ten championship, they lost in the playoff. 1696 01:17:42,160 --> 01:17:45,280 Speaker 5: So it's a failure for them. But you got to 1697 01:17:45,320 --> 01:17:47,880 Speaker 5: spend the money to have an opportunity to be in 1698 01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:49,599 Speaker 5: the mix and then they got to figure out way 1699 01:17:49,640 --> 01:17:51,280 Speaker 5: to finish it when they get a chance. 1700 01:17:52,400 --> 01:17:54,880 Speaker 7: All right, all right, well we're gonna double dip on 1701 01:17:54,960 --> 01:17:57,719 Speaker 7: Indiana for this one, guys, because speaking of another team 1702 01:17:57,720 --> 01:18:00,920 Speaker 7: that also lost the Indiana just this time in the playoffs, 1703 01:18:01,400 --> 01:18:05,679 Speaker 7: Alabama not only lost Indiana here, they were ambarrassed. 1704 01:18:06,360 --> 01:18:08,160 Speaker 1: Why and who do you blame? 1705 01:18:08,200 --> 01:18:08,599 Speaker 7: Bucky? 1706 01:18:09,560 --> 01:18:12,479 Speaker 5: I blame killing the boor. I believe this. This team 1707 01:18:13,040 --> 01:18:15,760 Speaker 5: is just and program is just so drastically different than 1708 01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:17,639 Speaker 5: it was under Nick Safe. 1709 01:18:17,800 --> 01:18:18,639 Speaker 3: And it's not as fault. 1710 01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:20,559 Speaker 5: He coaches the way that he coaches, and he's had 1711 01:18:20,560 --> 01:18:22,880 Speaker 5: a lot of success doing it his way. I just 1712 01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:25,920 Speaker 5: think at Alabama there's been a certain standard that's been 1713 01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:30,240 Speaker 5: established and it's hard when you deviate away from the 1714 01:18:30,280 --> 01:18:31,400 Speaker 5: program's process. 1715 01:18:32,040 --> 01:18:33,240 Speaker 3: Uh, maybe he can find his. 1716 01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:35,080 Speaker 5: Way, he gets his whole new crew and do all that. 1717 01:18:35,160 --> 01:18:38,080 Speaker 5: But yeah, it's on him right now. They look four 1718 01:18:38,160 --> 01:18:42,000 Speaker 5: losses in back to back years unacceptable to Alabama. 1719 01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:44,280 Speaker 2: I hope Kellen dvoor is renting. I hope he didn't 1720 01:18:44,280 --> 01:18:46,799 Speaker 2: buy a house. I hope he's renting over there. But 1721 01:18:46,840 --> 01:18:48,679 Speaker 2: you know, I'm gonna blame I'm gonna blame Kurt Signetic 1722 01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:50,960 Speaker 2: because this team was better prepared, they would better coach. 1723 01:18:51,040 --> 01:18:52,800 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, it was okay if they would have 1724 01:18:52,840 --> 01:18:55,439 Speaker 2: won twenty seven to twenty four, I get it. Thirty 1725 01:18:55,479 --> 01:18:58,320 Speaker 2: eight to three, you were embarrassed. You were prepared better, 1726 01:18:58,360 --> 01:19:00,479 Speaker 2: You knew what was going on. They weren't fooled. How 1727 01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:04,120 Speaker 2: many plays? Indiana knew what was coming up? They studied 1728 01:19:04,120 --> 01:19:06,360 Speaker 2: it and they knew it. Maybe they're smarter players. Could 1729 01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:09,519 Speaker 2: that beat Bucky Brooks? Maybe they're just smarter football players too. 1730 01:19:11,240 --> 01:19:13,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe that has some doing it. They just beat 1731 01:19:13,960 --> 01:19:14,920 Speaker 5: due Tail, That's all I know. 1732 01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:17,439 Speaker 7: All right, Well, I'll tell you what I know here. 1733 01:19:17,560 --> 01:19:21,720 Speaker 7: Two NFL teams started strong and made us into believers, 1734 01:19:22,160 --> 01:19:26,479 Speaker 7: the Indianapolis Colts and Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and then the 1735 01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:27,799 Speaker 7: slid happened. 1736 01:19:28,240 --> 01:19:29,759 Speaker 1: Why who do you blame? 1737 01:19:29,840 --> 01:19:33,160 Speaker 2: Many you know what there, it's so easy, it's almost 1738 01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:35,400 Speaker 2: a crutch to use this. But I'm gonna use the 1739 01:19:35,640 --> 01:19:38,320 Speaker 2: injury excuse because look, Baker Mayfield and sad he was 1740 01:19:38,320 --> 01:19:40,360 Speaker 2: playing with a bad shoulder most of the season. He 1741 01:19:40,400 --> 01:19:43,840 Speaker 2: came up back yesterday won. He wasn't really that impressive, 1742 01:19:43,840 --> 01:19:47,439 Speaker 2: but the team won. And I just think that injury 1743 01:19:47,479 --> 01:19:49,960 Speaker 2: is the fact that obviously with the quarterback situation, when 1744 01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:52,000 Speaker 2: you got to bring Philip Rivers in off the couch, 1745 01:19:52,360 --> 01:19:54,840 Speaker 2: I mean this problem is over there. They were good, 1746 01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:57,320 Speaker 2: they were believable. I thought they were for real. But 1747 01:19:57,720 --> 01:19:59,800 Speaker 2: you know, without that quarterback go with injuries. That's what 1748 01:19:59,880 --> 01:20:00,639 Speaker 2: it it's all about. 1749 01:20:02,160 --> 01:20:03,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's everything. 1750 01:20:03,439 --> 01:20:06,400 Speaker 5: Like the quarterback is the most important piece of the puzzle. 1751 01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:09,160 Speaker 5: When you have quarterback injuries in those things things can falter. 1752 01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:11,720 Speaker 5: You hope that you have a well constructed team that 1753 01:20:11,800 --> 01:20:16,240 Speaker 5: could play around a quarterback injury, but most teams aren't 1754 01:20:16,280 --> 01:20:17,040 Speaker 5: equipped to do that. 1755 01:20:17,080 --> 01:20:19,240 Speaker 3: So when the quarterback goes down, so do your playoff hopes? 1756 01:20:19,720 --> 01:20:19,840 Speaker 7: All? 1757 01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:20,080 Speaker 3: Right? 1758 01:20:20,080 --> 01:20:24,080 Speaker 7: Final one guys, Kirk Cousins rallied the Falcons downstretch and 1759 01:20:24,200 --> 01:20:27,719 Speaker 7: didn't play early on Why and who do you blame 1760 01:20:27,760 --> 01:20:28,040 Speaker 7: for that? 1761 01:20:28,080 --> 01:20:29,639 Speaker 1: One, Bucky. 1762 01:20:30,120 --> 01:20:32,720 Speaker 5: Well, look man, kirk Cousins played well, but look, every 1763 01:20:32,760 --> 01:20:34,040 Speaker 5: time he had been in pride of that he had 1764 01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:36,559 Speaker 5: been terrible. He found in a rhythm, he knew that 1765 01:20:36,600 --> 01:20:39,320 Speaker 5: there was no other option when Bichael Pennis was hurt, 1766 01:20:39,720 --> 01:20:42,160 Speaker 5: and his confidence shot up. And it'd be interesting to 1767 01:20:42,160 --> 01:20:44,639 Speaker 5: see what Atlanta Falcons do going forward because kirk Cousins 1768 01:20:44,640 --> 01:20:45,560 Speaker 5: had some limitations. 1769 01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:47,599 Speaker 3: But he's clearly beilter than Pennis at this point. 1770 01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:50,320 Speaker 2: Right, But he's not the future. That's what it's all about, 1771 01:20:50,360 --> 01:20:51,760 Speaker 2: all right, Bucky, I have a great day. 1772 01:20:52,080 --> 01:20:52,400 Speaker 1: Thank you. 1773 01:20:52,439 --> 01:20:55,320 Speaker 2: Picked up a stick over. Stick over here, Greg Kochelle 1774 01:20:55,360 --> 01:20:56,040 Speaker 2: Holme in next