1 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. We are actually going 2 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: to have the group on today. A lot has happened 3 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: in the past week. Obviously, we went through the attempted 4 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:17,760 Speaker 1: assassination on President Trump. We've actually just attended the first 5 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:23,599 Speaker 1: day of the RNC convention and it was different than 6 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:25,760 Speaker 1: I think we've seen in the past, and a lot 7 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: of emotion and a lot of excitement, but also a 8 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: lot of emotion, even I think from Donald Trump himself. 9 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 1: And so I have Kyle Olsen here with me and 10 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:36,559 Speaker 1: Sarah Broadwater, and we just kind of wanted to go 11 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 1: over that and the media's reaction to it, because I 12 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:45,599 Speaker 1: find the media's reaction to what happened over the weekend 13 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania with this attempted assassination and losing the supporter 14 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: in the stands and two other supporters being hospitalized, which 15 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: we now find that they're in stable condition. But we 16 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: still had a shooting at an event where you would 17 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: imagine you couldn't possibly have a shooting like this. And 18 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:10,919 Speaker 1: I think it was interesting because on Monday, MSNBC chose 19 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: to take Morning Joe off the air, so at the 20 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:16,839 Speaker 1: time we were all kind of like, that's pretty weird 21 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: that they don't even trust their own hosts. They are 22 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 1: so concerned, and it was kind of leaked out that 23 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: the executives were like, Eh, we're not going to have 24 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: them on on the off chance someone says something totally 25 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 1: stupid and we can't come back from it. Today we 26 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 1: find out that the hosts of Morning Joe Art are 27 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 1: irate about this, which I think is interesting because to me, 28 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 1: this means that the executives at these news organizations expect 29 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: this from these people. They know the rhetoric has been dangerous, 30 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: and after a crisis, they don't even trust that they 31 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: can keep their mouths shut long enough for the crisis 32 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: to I guess not past, but in a sense pass 33 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: long enough for people to heal a little bit. They 34 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: can't even have them on the air the next day. 35 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:12,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's well a show like Morning Joe. They 36 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 2: have politicos talking, professional talking heads, reporters, sort of professional 37 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 2: people on, and if they can't even trust those people 38 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 2: to not say something inappropriate or crazy, that's really saying 39 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 2: something about MSNBC. I understand. There's other networks and they 40 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 2: have sort of you know, kind of fringy people on 41 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:39,839 Speaker 2: and they say, you know, crazy things, but for MSNBC 42 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 2: to do that was really unprecedented. But then also to 43 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 2: have Joe Scarborough come out and openly, i mean basically 44 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 2: criticize and sort of, you know, be very negative towards 45 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:56,679 Speaker 2: the management of MSNBC was that was also very interesting. 46 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 3: I don't think MSBC can ever claim to be a 47 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 3: credible news organization after this. If they have talent that 48 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 3: they know it's going to go on and say something 49 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 3: crazy so much so that they have to keep them 50 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 3: off the air, how can you incredibly claim your news organization. 51 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:12,959 Speaker 1: Well, and I would say that these are people who do, 52 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: like you said, Joe and Mika, I think they consider 53 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 1: themselves news anchors. They don't consider themselves commentators, they consider 54 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:24,239 Speaker 1: themselves actual news anchors. So they're shocked by this and 55 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 1: they actually I think it was Joe who came out 56 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: and said, if they ever do this again, see what 57 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 1: they did is they said, we're going to be running 58 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: this newsfeed all day. All NBC stations are going to 59 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: be running this newsfeed. Well they didn't run it the 60 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: rest of the day. I'm not even one hundred percent 61 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 1: sure what happened during the the Joe Morning, Joe show. 62 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: But they are obviously aware now that they were told 63 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 1: something that wasn't the case for everybody because of specifically 64 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: because of them. And he essentially said, if we're ever 65 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: told this again, we're coming to the office. We will 66 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: sit in our chairs, and if they don't have us on, 67 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: we will leave us hosts. And I thought, well, that's 68 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: MSNBC's opportunity if they think they're such a threat. And 69 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: I say that word and I mean it, because they 70 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 1: obviously chose to take them off the air because they 71 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: thought that it was a threat to their network, not 72 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: a threat to the American people, a threat to their network. 73 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: And this is after we've listened to years of them 74 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: trashing Republicans, just trashing Republicans. You know, everybody has a 75 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: right to say whatever they want to say, and these 76 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: news networks can say whatever they want to say. But 77 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: the problem that we have is that a twenty year 78 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: old kid somehow got in his head that he had 79 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,919 Speaker 1: to save the world from this threat. And obviously we 80 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: don't know the details of what happened in Pennsylvania, but 81 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 1: lives were ruined, lives were destroyed, a former president was 82 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: nearly killed. I mean the the fact that that shot 83 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 1: didn't hit him was a miracle, a miracle, and we 84 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: can only say that it was God's intervention because every 85 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: expert who has seen this has said there's no way 86 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:12,919 Speaker 1: he could live through this, like this had to have 87 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: been God intervening that he lived through this. But their 88 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: rhetoric has gotten to a point where these people who 89 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: talk about the infotainment people that the people who talk 90 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: about news, they aren't the news. They aren't talking, they 91 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 1: aren't telling you the news, they're talking about news, is 92 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 1: what I would have to say about them. These people 93 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 1: interpret it in the way they choose, and they are 94 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 1: so offended by the other side. They're so determined that 95 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 1: they have to get the other side out of there 96 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: that they have decided that this type of commentary is 97 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: what is acceptable, and it has gotten into young people's 98 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: minds and look at what happened. Well, I think to 99 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: your point you said, Mika and Joe genuinely do think 100 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:59,599 Speaker 1: they are the news. And I think it's because they're 101 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: true believers in what their principles and policies are that 102 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: they actually think, yeah, we are telling the truth, when 103 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 1: in reality, their sense of truth is very warped because 104 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:10,799 Speaker 1: they don't actually follow the facts. But to your point, 105 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: I do think Joe and Mika actually think they are 106 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: news anchors. And that's the problem we're in. CNN thinks 107 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 1: they're unbiased, MSNBC thinks they're unbiased. I mean, CBS, all 108 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: of them think they're unbiased. I don't think they think 109 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 1: they're unbiased. I would argue that. I think what they 110 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: think is that they have to tell you where to land. 111 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: They have to bring you to their side because they're 112 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: so that you don't understand how dangerous the other side is. 113 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 1: I mean, listen to this. This is just yesterday. They 114 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 1: are literally CNN was literally covering the Republican National Convention 115 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 1: when Kate Benningfield says this on the air, and you see, 116 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna play it for you, but you see, I think, 117 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 1: what is our name, Holisafara. You see her face when 118 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: she says is it's like, I mean, she gets it 119 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: right off the bat, like this is not the kind 120 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 1: of conversation we're having, but this is what she says. 121 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: I want to play it for you. 122 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 4: He has said many many times, after having been questioned 123 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 4: many times about this, that he's not stepping down and 124 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 4: he is going to be the nominee. So at some 125 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 4: point Democrats have to decide that they want to try 126 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 4: to win this election and turn their fire on Donald Trump. 127 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: I think there is I should have said, turned their fire. 128 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: I apologize that was not the phrase that I meant. 129 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: They need to turn their focus on Donald Trump. The 130 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: thing that bothers me about that is the person laughing 131 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: in the background. She says, Oh, I shouldn't have said that. 132 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: Someone immediately starts laughing in the background. This isn't funny 133 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: and not fit is enough. But I understand what she's 134 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: saying is to focus on him, and I think what 135 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: she was saying was key there. Joe Biden's not stepping down. 136 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: They have a real problem now because now they're in 137 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: this situation where Donald Trump has been hailed a hero. 138 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: He stood up. I mean, nobody's ever done that after 139 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: an assassination attempt, stands up, lifts up his fist. There 140 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: are people I see on social media that say, I've 141 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: never been interest in politics before, or I was on 142 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: the other side, or I was on the fence and 143 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: I saw that and I just had so much pride 144 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: for America. Democrats are freaking out right now. But this 145 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: is the kind of thing. They're so used to it, 146 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: they're so used to saying, go after him, put him 147 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: in a bullseye, eliminate him. I mean, you can go 148 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: back and you can replay all of the Democrats that 149 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: have said this over the years, and let me tell you, 150 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: if it were the other way around, it's all you'd see. 151 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: They wouldn't be talking about any news, they wouldn't be 152 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 1: talking about the DNC convention, they wouldn't be talking about 153 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: Joe Biden. They would be if there was an attempt 154 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 1: on Joe Biden's life. They would be going back and 155 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 1: they would say everything, and it would be extremists, this, 156 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: extremist that. But what is that solve? 157 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 3: Within hours, you would have had a supercut of every 158 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 3: single Republican out there that had said something like that before. 159 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 2: And they're just so with the way she said that. 160 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 2: They're just so casual with the rhetoric and with the analogies, 161 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:59,719 Speaker 2: and just I think it was that same day there 162 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 2: was an New York Times headline that was sort of 163 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 2: using the same sort of rhetoric about what Biden was 164 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 2: doing to Trump, and so it's it's this sort of 165 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 2: just very casual use of this kind of thing, and 166 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 2: I think what people need to realize is that there 167 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:21,439 Speaker 2: is a lot of it's high stakes, but it's also 168 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 2: highly emotional, and I think the Democrats in particular have 169 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 2: made this very emotional. And just think about the rhetoric 170 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 2: that they use about you know, he is a threat 171 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 2: to democracy, and he's an existential threat, and people are 172 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 2: comparing him to Hitler and all of that. But then 173 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 2: those very same people are then rushing to Twitter to say, 174 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 2: you know, political violence has no place in American society, 175 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 2: which I agree. But when your mindset is that this 176 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 2: person is a threat, and what do you do, you 177 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:58,559 Speaker 2: have you eliminate threats. 178 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 5: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on 179 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 5: the Tutor Dixon podcast. Even Alissa Slotkin in our State 180 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 5: has an ad which I think all of these ads 181 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:13,719 Speaker 5: have been pulled now, and all of Biden's ads were 182 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 5: pulled because they were so that the rhetoric was so high, 183 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 5: that the emotion was so high, and it was you know, 184 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 5: I've been attacked by Donald Trump once again. He's coming 185 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 5: after me and he's coming after you, And that kind 186 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 5: of message was constant, and people really feared, like, what 187 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 5: is this about? And so what I think we found 188 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 5: in the campaign that was so frustrating was that the 189 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 5: news was no longer about reporting on either side. They 190 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 5: never reported on what we wanted to do policy wise. 191 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 3: Never. 192 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: They only reported on or they only defined me. They 193 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 1: reported on her stuff all day long. I mean, remember 194 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 1: how what a hero she was when Goshen was coming 195 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: because it was jobs. Never reported on what Goshen was on. Oh, 196 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 1: she's bringing all these jobs, which was not even true. 197 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: They never ever talk about the Republican policies, They never 198 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 1: talk about the Republican platforms. They twist it, they say 199 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: this is what they're going to do. I mean, gosh, 200 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: I've heard so many things about Oh, he's gonna have 201 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: detention camps, and he's gonna go and round people up 202 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 1: at their homes and they're gonna all be sent on 203 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 1: these planes and it's pea. Families will be ripped apart, 204 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 1: and then we'll never have the framework of the United 205 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 1: States again. They know it's all untrue. 206 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 2: Well, but look and look at there was a there's 207 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 2: you know, a bunch of Michigan reporters in Milwaukee right 208 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 2: now covering the convention, and look at what some of 209 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 2: these reporters are putting out. One story was the uh, 210 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 2: the Hailey delegates can't bring themselves to vote for Donald Trump. 211 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 2: And then there was another story that while some of 212 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 2: the Michigan Republicans don't like JD. Vance, I mean it's 213 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 2: they have an objective. They want to undermine what's going on. 214 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 2: They want to undermine Donald Trump. And so instead of 215 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 2: just reporting the support reporting what's actually going on, they 216 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 2: have a narrative that they like to push and maintain. 217 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 2: And so that's why you see stories like that. 218 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 3: They will pull Democrat press releases and write the story 219 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 3: exactly how the press this is all we saw that. 220 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 3: But for Republicans, they don't take the press release. And 221 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 3: you know, you talk about policy, okay, well, for Democrats 222 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 3: they would write straight up, here's what they say the 223 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 3: policy is going to do. Here's ohow will impact people. 224 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 3: For Republicans they change it and say, well, this is 225 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 3: this is what they say, but this is what it 226 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 3: actually means. But you actually had people's plan. 227 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: You actually had reporters call you and say, the Democrats 228 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: sent us this, and we're supposed to write on it. 229 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 3: Yes, I mean it was very clear, Hey, we got 230 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:44,439 Speaker 3: this appo packet from somebody. We're going to write this 231 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 3: story because they asked us to what's your comment. Well, 232 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 3: even if it's not true, they still say it's a story. 233 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 3: We still have to write even if it's not true, 234 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 3: and we'll put your comments in there. We still have 235 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 3: to write, which is such blogony. 236 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 2: So what you Sarah, So what you're saying, take it 237 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 2: take one step back. So what you're saying is that 238 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 2: the reporters are not actually doing their own research. There's 239 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 2: some group that has an objective or agenda. They're doing 240 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 2: the quote unquote research and then they're handing it to 241 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 2: the reporter, and then the reporter is acting like they 242 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:19,439 Speaker 2: did all of this research and are doing this hit 243 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 2: piece and they're calling you for your reaction. Is that 244 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 2: what's happening. 245 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 3: Oh, it's one hundred percent what's happening. And I don't 246 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:27,319 Speaker 3: want to paint all reporters in the same way, but 247 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 3: for the most part, reporters are fundamentally lazy. If you 248 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 3: hand them a story that is baked with citation, if 249 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 3: you're a demotor act, if you're a Democrat especially, but 250 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 3: if you hand them a story that they think is catnip, 251 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 3: it helps them hit their quota because they have to 252 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 3: have a certain number of stories they write every day 253 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 3: or every week. But it also helps them get some 254 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 3: sort of salacious tidbit that drives clicks to their website, 255 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 3: which ultimately makes them look good, whether it's the website, 256 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 3: Twitter feeds, whatever it is. They're going to write that 257 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 3: all day, and you've just made it so easy for 258 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 3: them to do it, and it doesn't really matter if 259 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 3: it's true or not to them. I've complained about I 260 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 3: mean at both sides have complained about dark money groups 261 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 3: for a long time. It's really frustrating because they bring 262 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 3: in all of these stories, and they bring in all 263 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 3: this money, and they do all these ads and you 264 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 3: have no idea who's given to them and how much 265 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:14,839 Speaker 3: money is coming in and how many attacks there will 266 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 3: be against you, and so we you know, when you 267 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 3: look back at our election, you don't even know how 268 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 3: much money came into it because it goes into these groups. 269 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 3: And I was saying on the podcast over the weekend 270 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 3: that there was this and I didn't know this, and 271 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 3: Sarah's like, well, I probably hid that from you. There 272 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 3: was this group called Defend Democracy Project and they listed 273 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 3: me on a list. I mean like a terrorist list. 274 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 3: I was on a list of what was I called 275 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 3: a gosh, what were you all? Threat to demother? 276 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 4: Yeah? 277 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, throat to democracy? That was I was on a 278 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: list as as with Matt DePerno and Christina Caromo, we 279 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: were threats to democracy and it said because I had 280 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: taken unprecedented steps. I researched this over the weekend. I 281 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 1: found myself on this list. I had taken unprecedented steps 282 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: to over turn an election. 283 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 2: Like when That's interesting because and this was not scripted, 284 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 2: but I was just looking at Twitter, and I think 285 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 2: it was yesterday and some random person quote tweeted a 286 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 2: Gretchen Whitmer tweet from twenty twenty two where she was saying, 287 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 2: you were a threat to democracy because and you wouldn't 288 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 2: you would not commit to supporting the results of the 289 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 2: twenty twenty two election. According to her, I'm not saying, 290 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 2: which is such? 291 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: I mean, that is another a question that makes me 292 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: mad because you know, everybody asks you, are you going 293 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: to immediately accept the results? Well, let me see what 294 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 1: they are, let me see how close they are, let 295 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: me see what actually happened in the election. But we 296 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: did and at the end of the day. I mean, 297 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 1: I conceded the election the next morning. It was obviously 298 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: a blowout. There was not that opportunity to go back 299 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 1: and fight on any angle. And yet they still call 300 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 1: me that. 301 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 2: But that's but sorry, but that's to me, that wasn't 302 00:15:56,360 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 2: my point. My point was what the group said, is 303 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 2: what Whitmer also said exactly. 304 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 3: They use an entire ecosystem to their benefit, right, and 305 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 3: they have them all, they all it's like an echo chamber, 306 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 3: one says one. They pass information off to each other. 307 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 3: But to your point on they want to so desperately 308 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 3: call you this election denier. And nowhere in those stories 309 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 3: does it ever talk about the fact that, yes, the 310 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 3: next morning you called to concedet and I. 311 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: And I've had a lot of people that are mad 312 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: at me about that. And and to those folks out there, 313 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 1: there are rules to looking at when when you look 314 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: at an election and you look at the results, and 315 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: at what threshold do you fight? How do you legally 316 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: go about it? And this was there was no fighting 317 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: on And that's why you can't allow people like Jocelyn 318 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: Benson to refuse to have a signature match on ABS 319 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: ANDEE ballots because if you don't have the signature match, 320 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: there's no legal recourse. You can't go back. There's nobody saying, Okay, 321 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: well these don't count because they're illegal. They're illegal ballots. 322 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: And I think, and I'm not saying that that happened 323 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 1: in our election, but I'm saying that the availability was 324 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: there for that to happen. And that was what I 325 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:06,679 Speaker 1: kept saying. Look, if we're going to change the rules 326 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 1: at the end, like right before an election, if you're 327 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: going to change the rules, I mean, it's suspect, it's bizarre. 328 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 6: Why would you do that? And why wouldn't you have 329 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 6: a signature match? Well, and I guess maybe i'm multipool too, 330 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:19,919 Speaker 6: but there's something that I like about there's a decorum 331 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 6: to this all. I mean, you call your opponent, you 332 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:26,439 Speaker 6: can see, you can have those conversations and realize that 333 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 6: you guys have difference on opinion, but you're not a threat. 334 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 6: And I was never a respect there. 335 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:35,479 Speaker 3: Whether or not you agree with them. And we've gotten 336 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 3: so far past that well, and we never used that 337 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:41,880 Speaker 3: kind of language. I mean, there were plenty of Do 338 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 3: I think that the things that she did to businesses 339 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 3: were hurting the state of Michigan. Absolutely, Was it a 340 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 3: threat to our economy? Yes, absolutely, Like I don't think 341 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:55,120 Speaker 3: that you can say somebody is when you say somebody 342 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 3: is a threat, and you don't define that in any way. 343 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 3: There's no fight against that right because them on defense. 344 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 3: But her policies were very threatening to the state. They're 345 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 3: very threatening to our hunters, they're very threatening to our manufacturers, 346 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 3: and they're very threatening to many of the people, like 347 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 3: the people who live in the up with these energy policies. 348 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 3: Those were very threatening policies. I don't think that, you know, 349 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 3: I don't look at her as and I don't think 350 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:22,239 Speaker 3: I can paint her as like, oh my gosh, you know, 351 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 3: the whole world is going to end if you let 352 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 3: her anywhere near anything. 353 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 1: That's that's where people start to go, Man, we've got 354 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 1: to do so, we've got to eliminate the threat. That's 355 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 1: how you end up with what we had over the weekend. 356 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:36,679 Speaker 1: That is not the kind of rhetoric that we have. 357 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:39,879 Speaker 1: But look at her. I mean, as we pick up 358 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 1: part these people, and we talked about this over the 359 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: weeknd two, as we pick apart these people and the 360 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 1: threats that they have made. When she was on TV, 361 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 1: and I think you were one of the ones to 362 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 1: break this. Kyle. When she was on TV during the pandemic, 363 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 1: she put this little sticker behind her in her screen 364 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 1: so that it would be a national TV. And this 365 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 1: was not hidden, it was right there right out front, 366 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: so it would be a national TV saying eighty six 367 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 1: forty five. People are like, whoa, whoa, whoa. You were 368 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: literally calling to eliminate the president of the United States, 369 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 1: And there is no question that's what that meant. And 370 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 1: yet I've heard nothing about that from the mainstream media. 371 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:17,439 Speaker 1: And I also think what a liability that is for 372 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 1: the networks too. I mean, most times when you go 373 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 1: on a show, there are some standers as to what 374 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 1: way your bound drop. And I know different shows have 375 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: different standards than others, but I do think, and maybe 376 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:29,679 Speaker 1: this is something we go back and look at, but 377 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,479 Speaker 1: what a liability for those networks that allowed that to 378 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:32,880 Speaker 1: be aired. 379 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 2: She was on Meet the Press, that's the show. 380 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 3: Which I mean usually on Meet the Press, not all 381 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 3: the time, but you usually have a specific background. I mean, 382 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 3: there are standards to these things, or at least a 383 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 3: respectable level that you have a home studio set up 384 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 3: that it's going to be so So that's why. 385 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 2: I'm saying they're just so very casual that she thinks 386 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 2: that putting something like that in the background and then 387 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 2: sort of pleading ignorance when you know she's caught it 388 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 2: just it. I think it creates this environment where everyone 389 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 2: is on edge that if you know, this particular person 390 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 2: wins or whatever, it's it's the end of the world. 391 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 2: Because there's a difference. You were sort of getting at it. 392 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 2: I think there's a difference between saying she's a threat 393 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 2: to businesses, she's a threat to the economy, versus saying 394 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 2: she's a threat to a democracy because democracy, quote unquote, 395 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 2: we're not a democracy. I know, I understand that, but 396 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 2: that underpins everything. And if you're going to get rid of, 397 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 2: you know, being a constitutional republic, not a democratic republic, 398 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 2: a constitutional republic where we have representatives that we are 399 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 2: voting for who we expect to be our voice. What 400 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 2: she's saying is that's what you want to get rid of, 401 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 2: the very essence of what you know makes up America. 402 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 2: That's very different. 403 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: Well, and she said that in Jocelyn Benz and has 404 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: said that, and Joe Biden has said that and they 405 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 1: were saying that right up until the moment. And I'm 406 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 1: not saying that the Republican side never says things like this, 407 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 1: because they certainly do. And I've certainly seen some wild 408 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:12,679 Speaker 1: things going around in the last couple of days that 409 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 1: make me upset. And I do think that this world 410 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 1: of influencers has created a situation where people want the 411 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 1: hot take. And I mentioned this over the weekend. The 412 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 1: hot take is got to be the first one out 413 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,120 Speaker 1: there to say something outlandish so that you get all 414 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 1: of the clicks and views, and people make money off 415 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 1: of that, right and so, and that is hard because 416 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 1: we live in a society where you make money off 417 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:36,640 Speaker 1: of lies, essentially, and I don't like that. But I 418 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 1: also think that at this point in time, it's time 419 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 1: to take a step back as a society and say, okay, 420 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:50,879 Speaker 1: let us have politicians talk. And I'll just I just 421 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 1: want to wrap this up on saying, if we actually 422 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 1: do Joe Biden was the one who said watch me, 423 00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 1: watch me, watch what I have to say. So if 424 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 1: we actually do watch these folks, if we are watching 425 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:07,919 Speaker 1: Republicans and Democrats and candidates and we're listening to them, 426 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: then we would actually know what they stand for. But 427 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 1: if the media is allowed to continue to define people 428 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 1: and refuse to actually let them speak, where are we 429 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 1: with democracy? Because it will be one party that wins 430 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:22,120 Speaker 1: it all. 431 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I totally agree. I mean the thing Greg Duttfeld 432 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 3: often makes the point, which I agree with, when you 433 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 3: paint someone like Trump as Hitler over and over again constantly, 434 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 3: and he I mean, I think we can all agree 435 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,439 Speaker 3: Hitler is probably one of the most horrendous figures in history. 436 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 3: People will stop at nothing if they think they're trying 437 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 3: to defend themselves from Hitler, and so you end up 438 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,640 Speaker 3: with things like last weekend that happened. I mean, it's 439 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:49,919 Speaker 3: just if you paint people in that light, what do 440 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 3: you expect to happen. 441 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 2: It's I've been thinking about this and I may not 442 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 2: say it exactly appropriately or correctly, so deleses if you want. 443 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:07,679 Speaker 2: But at that time Hitler was so horrible. Nobody in 444 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 2: the Western world cried when Hitler was killed. And yet 445 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 2: you've got these people saying Donald Trump is Hitler. But 446 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 2: then when someone actually attempts to take him out, they're 447 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 2: all running to Twitter saying political violence is not acceptable 448 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:29,919 Speaker 2: in America. So if he is Hitler, then why are 449 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,880 Speaker 2: you not happy that someone tried to kill him? 450 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 3: They constantly conflict themselves. I mean, when he walked onto 451 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,719 Speaker 3: that convention floor the other night, it was not a 452 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 3: I think the energy in the room was one of 453 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 3: thankfulness and love that he was there and people that 454 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 3: were proud of him. It wasn't this like vengeful, spiteful, 455 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 3: he's here and we're going to come back and get 456 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,880 Speaker 3: you all. It was genuinely thank goodness, by the grace 457 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 3: of God that this man survived. 458 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:00,119 Speaker 2: So I think it's interesting that on the one and 459 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 2: they'll say he's Hitler, and he you know, he's an 460 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 2: existential threat to the very you know, fabric of America 461 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 2: and democracy and all of that, But then in the 462 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 2: next breath they'll say that what happened to him should 463 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:18,920 Speaker 2: never happen ever in America. Okay, So then if that's true, 464 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 2: then is what you're saying just hollow and phony, which 465 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 2: obviously the answer is yes. But but then how do 466 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 2: you why is the media not holding those people accountable. 467 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 5: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on 468 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 5: the Tutor Dixon Podcast. 469 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 1: If you look at the Democrat Party, they rally around causes, 470 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 1: and they look at people. They go to people who 471 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: are in a place where they don't have a higher 472 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: sense of you know, God, They don't they don't believe 473 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,400 Speaker 1: in something bigger than themselves, but that desire is there, 474 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,120 Speaker 1: and that's what we've heard from so many experts. Well, 475 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 1: a lot of people get pulled into these activism groups 476 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 1: that are for a cause that they don't care about 477 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 1: because they just want to be a part of something 478 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 1: bigger than themselves. Whereas if you look at the Republican Party, 479 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,640 Speaker 1: we get criticized because it's like, oh, they rally around 480 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,719 Speaker 1: one man, but we lift up our people. We believe 481 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 1: in the person who is representing us, not as a God, 482 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 1: as someone here on earth who has been well. We 483 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,640 Speaker 1: do believe that our leaders have been anointed by God 484 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:21,680 Speaker 1: and that they are going to do the right thing. 485 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: And that's not to say that they always do do 486 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 1: the right thing, but those are the people that we 487 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:29,160 Speaker 1: are choosing to stand behind, and as a party, we 488 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 1: stand behind them. And I think most of the people 489 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 1: on our party would say that they have a faith 490 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 1: of some sort. And I do believe that there was 491 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:39,879 Speaker 1: a well, we know that there was a group that 492 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:43,120 Speaker 1: prayed over Donald Trump before he went there to Pennsylvania 493 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:44,679 Speaker 1: on Saturday, and I know there are people who are 494 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 1: praying over him regularly, and so many people went, Okay, 495 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 1: he is the person we chose as our nominee, we 496 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 1: chose to lead our party, and look at how God 497 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 1: protected him in this moment, and we are rallying around 498 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 1: him because we believe in people. I think believing in 499 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 1: people is a good thing. I think believing in the 500 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 1: human nature of people to be able to come together 501 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 1: as a team and lead is a good thing. That's 502 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: something that's totally missing on the Democrats side because they 503 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 1: don't even show you who the person is. You don't 504 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 1: even know who Joe Biden is. And so instead of 505 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,880 Speaker 1: having them believe in Joe Biden or Kamala Harris, who 506 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 1: they hide you don't have any idea who they are. 507 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 1: They have you believe in a cause, or they have 508 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 1: you believe in a threat, and so they either scare 509 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:31,119 Speaker 1: you or they force you into activism and that and 510 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,400 Speaker 1: eventually that has to break down. And so I think 511 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,119 Speaker 1: that's why we see this great divide. And you know, 512 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 1: for me, right now, I'm just hoping that the country 513 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: starts to come back together and heal. Is a hard 514 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 1: time to heal when you're in the midst of an 515 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 1: election like this. And as I said earlier today, I 516 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 1: believe that they don't have a choice to. Kamala Harris 517 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 1: and jd Vance have already spoken, They've already set dates 518 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 1: for their debates, and I think that pretty much sets 519 00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: that their nominees are in place. And I don't think 520 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 1: is gonna say Okay, I'll let someone else step in 521 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 1: for Joe and I'll continue as the VP. That's just 522 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 1: not going to happen. We have to start to look 523 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 1: at this as Okay, we're gonna come together. There's gonna 524 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 1: be an election, one side's gonna win, one side's gonna lose, 525 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,640 Speaker 1: and then we've got to work together. And I think that, sadly, 526 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: sometimes something like this, when it happens, it has to 527 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,199 Speaker 1: bring people together. And I'm hoping that that's where we 528 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 1: are today. But I guess we will be seeing over 529 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 1: the next couple weeks and we'll continue to talk about 530 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 1: this and continue to review what's happening, and you will 531 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 1: see how the rest of the convention goes. This week tomorrow, 532 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,880 Speaker 1: he will be nominated and it'll be I think it'll 533 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:38,679 Speaker 1: be very exciting. I think a lot of people are 534 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,160 Speaker 1: jazzed up to go out and see this new team 535 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,359 Speaker 1: together and see Jade Vance as this younger version of 536 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 1: the Republican Party coming out and bringing people to the team. 537 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,639 Speaker 1: So we see that Donald Trump is suddenly getting a 538 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 1: lot more support from young people, which I also think 539 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 1: is because of that desire to have something bigger than yourself, 540 00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 1: be a part of something bigger than yourself. And I 541 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 1: think if we can bring young people to the Republican Party, 542 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 1: then ultimately those people who are saying, well, we need 543 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 1: to bring them to faith, I think there's a bigger 544 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,719 Speaker 1: chance of bringing them to faith once they see that 545 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 1: this is about togetherness and love and about the right 546 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,640 Speaker 1: things for the country. But we will see. We'll keep 547 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,640 Speaker 1: you posting right now. We're just thankful that you're still 548 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,360 Speaker 1: listening to the Tutor Dixon Podcast, and if you want 549 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,119 Speaker 1: to listen to this episode or others, make sure you 550 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 1: go to Tutor Dixon podcast dot com or iHeartRadio app, 551 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts, and you 552 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 1: can join us next time on the Tutor Dixon Podcast. 553 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 1: I just want to say thank you to Kyle and 554 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 1: Sarah for sticking with me today and we'll be back tomorrow.