WEBVTT - White Lightning Sticks 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:04.280 You're tuned into The Gangster Chronicles. Well, James McDonald, REXI, 0:00:04.360 --> 0:00:07.680 Rei Jr. And Allen Tomanso on the Digital soap Uch 0:00:07.720 --> 0:00:12.320 Network material witness on an aggregated battery, I was a 0:00:12.400 --> 0:00:15.000 hang gun and um, they believe this might be in 0:00:15.080 --> 0:00:25.560 retaliation to our testimony. Okay, welcome to another episode of 0:00:25.560 --> 0:00:28.440 The Gangster Chronicles. My name is Alex Alonso. You meet 0:00:28.560 --> 0:00:31.600 may be aware of my platform, Street TV, previously known 0:00:31.600 --> 0:00:35.919 as Street Gangs, and I'm here with and James, and 0:00:36.040 --> 0:00:39.720 this is actually episode episode of eleven. And if you're 0:00:39.720 --> 0:00:42.559 new to the podcast, please go back and start with 0:00:42.640 --> 0:00:45.120 episode one because most of our episodes are tied to 0:00:45.159 --> 0:00:48.840 one another. And uh, you won't hear me until episode three, 0:00:49.560 --> 0:00:52.440 but definitely go back and listen to all our episodes. 0:00:52.479 --> 0:00:54.400 If you're new to the podcast, and if you're listening 0:00:54.560 --> 0:00:57.880 to this episode of The Gangster Chronicles on iTunes, please 0:00:57.960 --> 0:01:00.400 leave us a rating and the reviews that we can 0:01:00.400 --> 0:01:03.240 continue bringing this amazing show to you. You can rate 0:01:03.360 --> 0:01:06.280 us from one to five stars, and five stars. If 0:01:06.319 --> 0:01:08.520 you love the show and if you want to continue 0:01:08.520 --> 0:01:10.600 to hear it, write a review and tell us what 0:01:10.680 --> 0:01:14.120 you enjoyed about our show so far. But before I 0:01:14.160 --> 0:01:17.760 start with our fact checks from last episode, James, you 0:01:17.800 --> 0:01:19.919 got a few words, Yeah, I got a few words. 0:01:19.959 --> 0:01:22.880 I wanna. I want to shout out to a lot 0:01:22.920 --> 0:01:26.280 of people that supporting us. I said at the beginning 0:01:26.400 --> 0:01:29.680 of this whole or a deal that I ain't gonna 0:01:29.680 --> 0:01:33.679 forget nobody, and I appreciate everybody. First, I want to 0:01:33.680 --> 0:01:36.440 start off. I want to say, man, thank you Jesus, 0:01:37.120 --> 0:01:40.440 my grandson. We went to court yesterday. He's out of 0:01:40.480 --> 0:01:43.959 the system. He's with his granddaddy. We don't have to 0:01:44.000 --> 0:01:47.720 go no courts, no lawyers, no nothing. My grand baby 0:01:47.880 --> 0:01:50.920 is is free. We straight and we can move on 0:01:51.000 --> 0:01:55.760 with our life. Thank you, Thank you. And these people 0:01:55.880 --> 0:01:59.120 I want to mention, you know a lot of them 0:01:59.160 --> 0:02:02.960 hitting me on message, jer and and you know, sending 0:02:03.000 --> 0:02:07.840 me a lot of good ship and I appreciate it. Uh, 0:02:08.000 --> 0:02:14.200 Mike Craikberg, Craig Big, uh Cohatten, Ed Potts, Curtis Snow, 0:02:14.880 --> 0:02:21.200 Walter Adams, Nick Noonan, Greg Kadine, Vincent Moss, Cornelius Woods, 0:02:21.840 --> 0:02:28.120 Sam Right, Brandon Lee, Robert Hatcher, My Dog, My Club brothers, Uh, 0:02:28.400 --> 0:02:35.920 Joe Alvarren, Joe Alvarez, and my boy Reggie sitting next 0:02:35.960 --> 0:02:41.760 to me, and Tony, Tony Wright, Brian Calvin, uh D, Will, 0:02:42.440 --> 0:02:47.320 Jacob Martinez and the Mogul Giant. I appreciate you people. 0:02:47.440 --> 0:02:50.920 It's a whole lot, but um, I can't name more 0:02:51.000 --> 0:02:53.760 than one. When one show gains, that will be the 0:02:53.760 --> 0:03:00.400 whole show. But I appreciate all your brothers for the 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:06.639 the comments. Just get our show started, alright, cool, cool, Hey, 0:03:06.680 --> 0:03:08.359 let me just say something right quick. I need y'all 0:03:08.880 --> 0:03:11.040 tune in the Bomb First tomorrow because all of you 0:03:11.080 --> 0:03:13.400 people out there to keep acting about this cast thing. 0:03:13.800 --> 0:03:16.280 I'm gonna go ahead and release the police report and 0:03:16.360 --> 0:03:18.280 show you an expose his brother how much of a 0:03:18.280 --> 0:03:20.400 big Larry is. So I got a cop of the 0:03:20.400 --> 0:03:23.680 police reporter to b off of you tomorrow on tomorrow 0:03:23.720 --> 0:03:27.639 morning on Bomb First and you can view it and 0:03:27.639 --> 0:03:30.160 and um let's see what really really really happened. That's 0:03:30.200 --> 0:03:34.480 the police report of what the incident with the big 0:03:34.520 --> 0:03:36.720 Cash trying to thank you want to take credit for 0:03:37.840 --> 0:03:39.920 with the damon Tomas in the Big Poppy and all 0:03:39.920 --> 0:03:41.920 of that. Okay, And how do they find that channel? 0:03:42.040 --> 0:03:46.600 Reggie Bomb First YouTube channel that's b NB one st 0:03:47.000 --> 0:03:51.640 correct Bomb first YouTube channel posted up tomorrow and maybe 0:03:51.640 --> 0:03:53.680 we'll talk about that on another episode. We kind of 0:03:53.720 --> 0:03:56.720 went into that thoroughly a couple of episodes ago, So 0:03:56.760 --> 0:03:59.440 if you guys haven't heard that episode, uh, I believe 0:03:59.480 --> 0:04:02.080 that was the episode called the g Code, which is 0:04:02.120 --> 0:04:05.520 a two part episode, part one and two. And last 0:04:05.560 --> 0:04:08.560 week I said we were gonna talk about more about 0:04:08.640 --> 0:04:10.920 the Central Park five, but we kind of already went 0:04:10.920 --> 0:04:14.480 into into detail with that last week much. I don't 0:04:14.480 --> 0:04:17.280 know if there's anything else we can say on that. Um, 0:04:17.320 --> 0:04:19.400 if you guys haven't heard that episode, go check that 0:04:19.440 --> 0:04:21.800 one out. That's called When They See Us And that's 0:04:21.839 --> 0:04:24.800 also a two part episode from last week, part one 0:04:24.839 --> 0:04:29.400 and two. That would have been episode um, episode ten. Now, 0:04:29.480 --> 0:04:32.320 I did learn a lot from actually watching it and 0:04:32.440 --> 0:04:35.200 going through those interviews, though, but please y'all try to 0:04:35.240 --> 0:04:39.920 listen to the the the people in themselves, the documentary 0:04:40.000 --> 0:04:43.919 parts or the things on YouTube, and not just the 0:04:44.040 --> 0:04:50.000 movie along uh that's on Netflix, because there's a lot 0:04:50.400 --> 0:04:53.720 of holes getting mixed. Yeah, I mean, it is Hollywood 0:04:54.000 --> 0:04:58.080 and it's not always exactly accurate. But um, I think 0:04:58.160 --> 0:05:01.560 Eva Devorne here name, I think I think she captured 0:05:02.040 --> 0:05:08.680 the stortion, and I've seen a few other big Robert 0:05:08.720 --> 0:05:13.960 de Niro was an ettecutive producer on that. Alright, Yeah, 0:05:13.960 --> 0:05:17.200 he was actually married to a black chick name took. Okay, 0:05:19.839 --> 0:05:21.800 all right, let me just go over a few fact 0:05:21.880 --> 0:05:25.360 checked from last week's episode, episode number ten. Um Omar 0:05:25.440 --> 0:05:29.560 Bradley was convicted in July to two thousand seventeen and 0:05:29.640 --> 0:05:31.560 was sentenced to three years probation. We talked a little 0:05:31.600 --> 0:05:35.240 bit about him last week. His first conviction was in 0:05:35.320 --> 0:05:38.279 two thousand four and they overturned that in two thousand 0:05:38.360 --> 0:05:40.640 twelve and then decided to re triumph and he was 0:05:40.680 --> 0:05:44.240 found guilty in two thousand seventeen. He's not serving any time. 0:05:44.279 --> 0:05:47.320 He got three years probation, and they followed appeal on 0:05:47.360 --> 0:05:50.120 that conviction, and that was what I was referring to, 0:05:50.200 --> 0:05:53.080 had just got uphill. Yeah, that his conviction was just 0:05:53.200 --> 0:05:56.920 upheld this year two thousand nineteen, and um he was 0:05:56.960 --> 0:06:01.240 actually found guilty of two felonies. One was misappropriation of 0:06:01.320 --> 0:06:04.599 public funds by a public officer and the second charge 0:06:04.640 --> 0:06:07.440 was misuse of public funds by a public officer for 0:06:07.520 --> 0:06:12.000 personal gain, and he was convicted of spending a total 0:06:12.240 --> 0:06:17.200 a grand total of six thousand, five hundred dollars over 0:06:17.200 --> 0:06:20.080 the course of eight years. That comes out to, um 0:06:20.320 --> 0:06:21.719 what does that come out to per year if you 0:06:21.760 --> 0:06:25.120 average that out. But but like I said, the city 0:06:25.160 --> 0:06:27.400 manager took most of the fall because they were doing 0:06:27.480 --> 0:06:33.039 something with uh doing because they were they had so 0:06:33.120 --> 0:06:35.760 many transactions where they did it for four thousand nine 0:06:37.680 --> 0:06:40.760 uh that that was crazy. Hey, but let me just 0:06:40.800 --> 0:06:43.800 say this about the city, um Man, they just had 0:06:43.839 --> 0:06:46.760 the election last week, and do you know the people 0:06:46.800 --> 0:06:50.040 that want to councils. It's a hundred thousand people in 0:06:50.080 --> 0:06:53.600 that city. I guess how many people how many votes 0:06:53.800 --> 0:06:57.320 to turnout? The Okay, the turnouts are the votes to 0:06:57.960 --> 0:07:00.920 us in the city of Confdence for to a two 0:07:00.920 --> 0:07:04.000 man race. And I've been gender you know, because they 0:07:04.040 --> 0:07:06.920 were females involved. But for a two person race, let 0:07:06.920 --> 0:07:11.640 me say it that way. Votes is what one city 0:07:11.640 --> 0:07:16.280 council in that city city of Kunta. It's crazy. Jane Jane, 0:07:16.520 --> 0:07:19.000 the lady that's you're seen on YouTube the ones have 0:07:19.040 --> 0:07:21.760 been following it. That's related to old more she lost, 0:07:22.280 --> 0:07:25.600 which is um it's a good, bad thing. She was 0:07:25.680 --> 0:07:27.640 starting to be a little bit too cocky because she 0:07:28.000 --> 0:07:29.840 you know, was the one that's on YouTube that are 0:07:30.560 --> 0:07:32.600 that y'all saw on Facebook and stuff that was bragging 0:07:32.680 --> 0:07:37.520 about how she controlled the councils because she has three votes. Well, 0:07:37.560 --> 0:07:39.520 so you won't have no more of that. And um, 0:07:39.560 --> 0:07:41.640 let's see what Asia Brown do. We're gonna try to 0:07:41.640 --> 0:07:44.360 get Cheeko on the show next week or in the 0:07:44.680 --> 0:07:48.360 upcoming the weeks. Who's which with Asia that I've been 0:07:48.360 --> 0:07:50.200 doing a lot of stuff and that's the gentleman that 0:07:50.280 --> 0:07:52.560 you you spoke on James that uh yeah, he was 0:07:52.600 --> 0:07:54.880 a freeway Rick Cross co defendant back in the day 0:07:56.280 --> 0:08:00.160 and so I've been in communication with him and he's 0:08:00.360 --> 0:08:02.480 been trying to do a lot of positive things to 0:08:02.480 --> 0:08:05.160 get back to the city of Campta. Definitely, he's been 0:08:05.160 --> 0:08:09.440 working on on this anti gang and in adventure prevention 0:08:09.480 --> 0:08:11.440 for years. He used to work for a place called 0:08:11.520 --> 0:08:16.920 a place called Home. That's what brought my attention the 0:08:17.160 --> 0:08:25.120 five dollars down. Yeah, you know it's some more people. 0:08:25.200 --> 0:08:27.400 You know, you talked to Jane and their people, they'll 0:08:27.400 --> 0:08:29.640 tell you that that he's lying on that and that's 0:08:29.680 --> 0:08:33.440 not well, you know, something that had happened or so 0:08:33.480 --> 0:08:35.320 we were very both sides in I'll try to get 0:08:35.360 --> 0:08:38.920 a uh Bishop Guillory and Chico to come here and 0:08:38.960 --> 0:08:43.760 talk conversation with Chico. Last week I said Ray Nagan 0:08:43.840 --> 0:08:45.839 was sentenced to twelve years. He was actually sentenced to 0:08:45.920 --> 0:08:49.200 ten years, and his sentence started believe in two thousand 0:08:49.200 --> 0:08:51.880 and eighteen. He was convicted of filing a false income 0:08:51.920 --> 0:08:56.520 tax return and bribery which was fifty dollars. He was 0:08:56.559 --> 0:08:59.199 trying to get some people to work for his son's 0:08:59.240 --> 0:09:03.200 granted company, and I guess technically that's illegal when you're 0:09:03.280 --> 0:09:06.840 holding a public office, and he forgot he wasn't CEO 0:09:06.920 --> 0:09:10.200 of a private industry anymore. He was a mayor and 0:09:10.320 --> 0:09:13.000 also Home Depot was involved in that scam to get 0:09:13.320 --> 0:09:17.040 this granite contract to his sons, but home Depot was 0:09:17.080 --> 0:09:20.040 never charged. His sons were never charged, only Ray Nagan, 0:09:20.160 --> 0:09:21.800 and he started a ten year sentence and in the 0:09:21.840 --> 0:09:24.880 FED you gotta do so he's gonna do eight and 0:09:24.920 --> 0:09:28.640 a half years of that ten year sentence. UM really interesting. 0:09:28.760 --> 0:09:30.800 Eric Parrott and we talked about in briefly last week. 0:09:30.840 --> 0:09:34.480 He has an interesting resume. Graduated from cal State University 0:09:34.480 --> 0:09:40.439 of Domingus Hills in eight two, Long Beach, Well Okay. 0:09:40.559 --> 0:09:43.280 Then he um did twelve years as Compton p D. 0:09:44.240 --> 0:09:47.880 Then he was putting himself through school while he was 0:09:47.880 --> 0:09:52.640 a p D. And then he got hired in to 0:09:52.800 --> 0:09:56.320 be the Deputy d A for Los Angeles County and 0:09:56.360 --> 0:09:59.080 then he became mayor in two thousand one. And he's 0:09:59.080 --> 0:10:03.040 the only then mayor elected three times. And he lost 0:10:03.040 --> 0:10:06.640 to Asia Brown in two thousand thirteen. So that's his 0:10:07.000 --> 0:10:11.720 very interesting resume. Of Eric Parrittin still around. What's he doing? Still? 0:10:11.760 --> 0:10:18.360 Good friend of mine? Uh Man, Why do you treat 0:10:18.440 --> 0:10:22.240 me like that? They say he's the longest um mayor 0:10:22.360 --> 0:10:24.559 in Compton history, which would be so there's no term 0:10:24.559 --> 0:10:27.679 limits in Compton. You can just keep running and keep 0:10:27.720 --> 0:10:29.439 so when he lost to Asia Brown, that would have 0:10:29.480 --> 0:10:32.640 been his fourth term if he would have won three years. 0:10:32.679 --> 0:10:34.200 Now you can do as many as you like, you said. 0:10:34.240 --> 0:10:37.360 I don't think they have termed them now, but at 0:10:37.360 --> 0:10:40.719 the time they didn't remember Mayor Tucker. Walter Tucker was 0:10:40.760 --> 0:10:43.040 there for a while, but I think he died while 0:10:43.080 --> 0:10:46.400 he was in office, which was not the son Tucker Jr. 0:10:46.480 --> 0:10:52.040 Got indicted while the mayor. No, actually he became a congressman. 0:10:52.280 --> 0:10:55.680 But they in that track that trash company Merkell boy, 0:10:55.760 --> 0:10:57.319 get you in trouble boy, that's what they all got 0:10:57.320 --> 0:11:01.040 indicted behind. Yeah and else. People were planning it to 0:11:04.080 --> 0:11:08.520 not recently, but we did. Your brother, Butchery went with 0:11:08.640 --> 0:11:11.040 me to uh give him the check at this at 0:11:11.080 --> 0:11:14.120 this my house for when we put him in office. 0:11:14.240 --> 0:11:18.560 But was a cop from eighty tow to ninety four, 0:11:18.600 --> 0:11:20.800 so he's seen all the drama on the streets of Compton. 0:11:20.920 --> 0:11:27.240 He's seen a lot of ship. My father's training because 0:11:27.240 --> 0:11:29.640 he was there, like I said, worked in the city. 0:11:29.640 --> 0:11:31.800 His brother worked in the city for a while. He's 0:11:31.800 --> 0:11:35.960 a Compton raised. I mean they've been on Central. He's 0:11:36.000 --> 0:11:39.600 a Nutty blocker. He grew up in Nutty Block right 0:11:39.640 --> 0:11:44.040 on Central, right across from the graveyard the cemetery, so Central, 0:11:44.280 --> 0:11:47.160 and I forget the street across, but just just the 0:11:47.200 --> 0:11:54.600 south of Alandro. Full of ship. All right. Last week 0:11:55.360 --> 0:11:57.360 we were talking about all the corrupt You mentioned the 0:11:57.360 --> 0:12:01.359 corrupt mayors of Chicago, and I said Rod, Rod Blogoyevic 0:12:01.600 --> 0:12:04.560 was one of them. But Rod Blagoyevich was actually a governor. 0:12:04.600 --> 0:12:08.839 Governor and in fact, four of the last seven governors 0:12:08.840 --> 0:12:15.400 of Illinois were sent to prison rob rob Bogoyevich, George 0:12:15.480 --> 0:12:18.480 Ryan sentence, the six point five what the deal for 0:12:19.400 --> 0:12:24.000 the Obama the Obama Dan Walker was sentenced to seven 0:12:24.080 --> 0:12:27.120 years and Otto Kerner back in the seventies were sentenced 0:12:27.120 --> 0:12:29.960 to three years. But yeah, Rodd Blogoevic tried to sell 0:12:30.360 --> 0:12:33.760 Barack Obama Senate seat after he became president. So you 0:12:33.800 --> 0:12:37.560 got this vacant Senate se and you know there's only 0:12:38.000 --> 0:12:41.199 there's two senators per state. Yeah, obviously the show with 0:12:41.400 --> 0:12:44.480 uh Kelsey Grammer The Boss, they try to show you 0:12:44.520 --> 0:12:47.520 how corrup Chicago was. If you don't get chance watched 0:12:47.600 --> 0:12:49.720 up The Boss. Can you believe that the four of 0:12:49.800 --> 0:12:53.800 their last seven governors were sent to prison? Then what 0:12:53.920 --> 0:12:57.920 did that chell you that they believe in corruption in Chicago. 0:12:58.160 --> 0:13:01.280 There's a lot of Illinois, a lot of the corrupt politicians. 0:13:01.320 --> 0:13:03.440 If you look at the history of Chicago, Illinois would 0:13:03.440 --> 0:13:05.840 never charge or indicted. So we're talking about more of 0:13:05.840 --> 0:13:08.719 a modern period here where they're starting to get indicted. 0:13:09.559 --> 0:13:14.480 Was about what was the big the one that back 0:13:14.520 --> 0:13:16.560 in the day that we used to always just I'll 0:13:16.559 --> 0:13:21.160 write corrupt George I forget his name. But the one 0:13:21.160 --> 0:13:23.320 thing I like about Chicago, one of those governors on 0:13:23.360 --> 0:13:25.800 the way out. You remember when he partnered everybody on 0:13:25.840 --> 0:13:32.040 thatfth row, one of them partnering let everybody going there, 0:13:32.360 --> 0:13:34.760 all right. And also when we were talking about the 0:13:34.760 --> 0:13:40.640 Central so you ain't gonna die, commuter, when we're talking 0:13:40.640 --> 0:13:43.480 about the Central Park. Five. Last week, I brought up 0:13:44.040 --> 0:13:50.880 the Guantanamobey detainees and looked it up. The US government 0:13:50.920 --> 0:13:55.520 had detained seven hundred and seventy five Muslims in Guantanamo Bay. 0:13:56.280 --> 0:14:00.120 Today there's forty one still in custody. They released over 0:14:00.240 --> 0:14:04.720 seven hundred of them and they only charged seven. So 0:14:07.280 --> 0:14:09.160 because most of the dudes didn't do anything like I 0:14:09.200 --> 0:14:12.160 was trying to say last week that we're in Guantanamo Bay. 0:14:12.760 --> 0:14:16.240 But there's forty one currently sitting in Guantanamo Bay right 0:14:16.280 --> 0:14:20.320 now of the original seven hundred and seventy five. And um, 0:14:20.880 --> 0:14:23.920 it took it took a Freedom of Information Act for 0:14:24.080 --> 0:14:26.440 the government to even release the list of those guys 0:14:26.440 --> 0:14:29.360 in Guantanamo Bay. But yes, seven of seven hundred of 0:14:29.360 --> 0:14:32.200 them have been released. In fact, Barack Obama released five 0:14:32.320 --> 0:14:36.040 or six of them, um and traded. It was a trade. 0:14:36.200 --> 0:14:38.120 He released some of them and then they got back. 0:14:38.440 --> 0:14:41.360 I don't know if it was a soldier or someone 0:14:41.400 --> 0:14:44.760 that was an American kidnapped, but uh, they end up 0:14:44.800 --> 0:14:48.120 just using them as little tools and little pawns for negotiations. 0:14:48.160 --> 0:14:51.200 Some of them are CIA operator operatives now and then 0:14:51.280 --> 0:14:53.400 sometimes some of them gave up information on things that 0:14:53.480 --> 0:14:56.040 was going on. Hey, where was that war? When you're 0:14:56.040 --> 0:14:59.720 at war? Y'all watched Hogan's Hogans here ros, I'll see 0:14:59.720 --> 0:15:05.680 how they hold him? Where was that warm man? They remember? Zero? 0:15:06.160 --> 0:15:09.280 When they had all the all of them held in prison. 0:15:09.920 --> 0:15:16.920 I don't yell remember. I didn't really watch it. Yeah, 0:15:16.960 --> 0:15:18.600 I was I was young. Though they was able to 0:15:18.600 --> 0:15:22.440 come and go when they wanted to. They had little escape. Yeah. Yeah. 0:15:24.040 --> 0:15:25.880 And the last fact check that I have is, um, 0:15:26.240 --> 0:15:31.480 we talked about waterboarding briefly. Uh. Bush actually banned water boarding. 0:15:31.600 --> 0:15:36.000 George Bush President UM, well not, he's not really junior. 0:15:36.040 --> 0:15:40.960 He's George Herbert Walker Bush. He banned water boarder in 0:15:41.040 --> 0:15:45.240 two thousand and six, but only for the military. He 0:15:45.360 --> 0:15:48.120 said the c i A can still use it. But 0:15:48.200 --> 0:15:52.320 then in two thousand and fourteen, UH Senate Select Committee 0:15:52.320 --> 0:15:56.320 on Intelligence issue to five page reports saying that they 0:15:56.320 --> 0:15:59.680 weren't gonna do waterboarding anymore, and that it didn't yield 0:16:00.400 --> 0:16:05.480 any um information on terrorism. Sure they wouldn't get none 0:16:05.520 --> 0:16:08.320 out of it. So I guess it's actually there's mixed 0:16:08.560 --> 0:16:12.400 reviews on whether or not waterboarding was ever effective effect. 0:16:14.680 --> 0:16:18.240 Some CIA agents will still say, hey, it helped me out, 0:16:18.640 --> 0:16:21.280 but others will say it took us on a wild 0:16:21.320 --> 0:16:24.640 goose chase. So it's it's inconclusive. I would say whether 0:16:24.760 --> 0:16:28.840 or not what they call enhanced interrogation techniques are even effective. 0:16:29.160 --> 0:16:33.600 The government called it chatter. I call it CI CIA informants, 0:16:33.880 --> 0:16:36.640 but they say, we got chatter. No, you got an 0:16:36.680 --> 0:16:41.240 informant they called yours. Yeah, oh we got chatter. Chatter 0:16:41.480 --> 0:16:44.120 told us this is about to happen. Now you had 0:16:44.160 --> 0:16:46.520 an informant called you this is about to happen. Well, 0:16:46.520 --> 0:16:48.960 in this report, it said the CIA's use of enhanced 0:16:48.960 --> 0:16:53.600 interrogation techniques was not effective for acquiring intelligence or gaining 0:16:53.600 --> 0:16:57.560 cooperation from the detainees. All right, so let's move on 0:16:57.600 --> 0:17:04.360 to our first effect. That glad Uh, my boy, my boy. Yeah, 0:17:05.040 --> 0:17:10.200 that's funny. But anyway, what's that nickname um sa si 0:17:10.640 --> 0:17:13.840 ke d D called me? Is that right? Yeah? Oh yeah, 0:17:13.920 --> 0:17:16.800 he called me. He's willing to come up on the show. 0:17:17.480 --> 0:17:19.520 I gotta see see how my people react to that. 0:17:19.760 --> 0:17:21.840 But anyone I need to bring Keife on Street TV. 0:17:22.000 --> 0:17:24.199 Told him. I told him that we're gonna set it up. 0:17:25.520 --> 0:17:27.920 He knows you are. He said, next week we're gonna talk. 0:17:28.080 --> 0:17:29.520 He's coming to town. So we're gonna talk, all right, 0:17:29.560 --> 0:17:30.959 So we're gonna let you do it, and you can 0:17:30.960 --> 0:17:33.320 do the interview because my people don't like him. But 0:17:36.160 --> 0:17:39.359 he was disappointed that I put out that Think was 0:17:39.400 --> 0:17:44.760 over him in terms of being a trafficker. Yeah, ain't 0:17:44.800 --> 0:17:47.240 that crazy? Yeah? Okay, So this is an interview that 0:17:47.280 --> 0:17:49.800 you did for Flag where he asked you, and he's 0:17:49.800 --> 0:17:52.520 always asking these to me ridiculous questions. But who was 0:17:52.560 --> 0:17:55.080 the biggest drug dealer in in Compton at the time. 0:17:55.520 --> 0:17:59.720 You said Fink was about He said, Think work for him. 0:17:59.720 --> 0:18:02.040 So he wanted me to clear that up. And so 0:18:02.280 --> 0:18:05.960 I'm clearing that up. Alright, So Fink actually worked for KPD. 0:18:06.840 --> 0:18:10.600 Fink had money though, Man, if he was working for him, 0:18:10.920 --> 0:18:14.359 I mean he had to really happen. Maybe Fink was 0:18:14.400 --> 0:18:16.520 working for him, but then also working for other people 0:18:16.560 --> 0:18:20.199 that made his money. More than with paper. Think was 0:18:20.240 --> 0:18:25.720 doing this thing, and he kept, he kept and he 0:18:25.840 --> 0:18:30.600 kept think he was only crimp over there. They had 0:18:30.600 --> 0:18:33.840 a blood sidekick. Where's think at Now he's still on 0:18:33.880 --> 0:18:37.280 the street, He's still around. I bet he's got a 0:18:37.280 --> 0:18:39.840 hell of a story. He wouldn't one of those loudcats, 0:18:40.400 --> 0:18:43.480 think win one of those. Now. He's real quiet, Yeah, exactly, 0:18:43.960 --> 0:18:47.840 he was. He was. He was cool right down to day. 0:18:47.880 --> 0:18:51.520 Still yeah cool cool. How often you guys see the 0:18:51.600 --> 0:18:54.080 same And I don't know how long, but I know 0:18:54.200 --> 0:18:57.119 Zeke still deal with him. Zeke, Zeke is still good. 0:18:57.920 --> 0:19:00.640 Zeke telled me he had an heart attack. Zeke told 0:19:00.680 --> 0:19:05.360 me he out there doing railroad. Yeah, on the valley. 0:19:05.920 --> 0:19:10.040 Z he working for the rail road. He's messing up 0:19:10.080 --> 0:19:13.200 no more. You know. I just watched this interview that 0:19:13.240 --> 0:19:15.399 Freeway Ricky Ross gave the other day. He's done a 0:19:15.520 --> 0:19:17.920 He's done a bunch of interviews. But one thing that 0:19:18.080 --> 0:19:20.920 you never really hear about are the guys that kind 0:19:20.920 --> 0:19:24.280 of laid the foundation for Freeway, Ricky Ross and and 0:19:24.320 --> 0:19:26.520 these guys never get mentioned. And I'm talking about like 0:19:26.760 --> 0:19:33.280 Whitey Enterprises, the drug traffickers. He talked about the Island 0:19:33.320 --> 0:19:36.520 and all of them. Well, you got whitey enterprises, you 0:19:36.640 --> 0:19:40.840 got um who else you got? You have a third world? 0:19:40.960 --> 0:19:43.520 Out of the four trays you're talking about the guys 0:19:43.560 --> 0:19:46.560 up under the ones that he was serving, well, some 0:19:46.640 --> 0:19:48.920 of these guys weren't even serving cocaine. They were doing 0:19:49.000 --> 0:19:51.480 they were serving water. They were doing that. Some of 0:19:51.560 --> 0:19:56.280 these guys like Ray Ray from Pasadena, Ray Browning, You 0:19:56.280 --> 0:19:59.560 don't really hear about these guys like that's why he 0:19:59.600 --> 0:20:01.840 didn't really tell that's his that's why he gets this 0:20:02.160 --> 0:20:04.320 his street car. They did. He he'd be like I 0:20:04.400 --> 0:20:08.560 told of people above me that the Colombians that, uh 0:20:08.880 --> 0:20:14.600 the what's the Salvadorians not a Salvadorians nag? And the 0:20:14.680 --> 0:20:20.760 United States government. Yeah, but through a Ricky Ross eighty six, 0:20:20.800 --> 0:20:23.639 we had we had drug dealers in l a and 0:20:23.840 --> 0:20:27.840 eight seventy nine, two eighty three before Ricky Ross. But 0:20:27.960 --> 0:20:33.280 was it Rock, It was Potter, and PC was PCP 0:20:33.440 --> 0:20:36.280 shern water. But these dudes was pulling up in rolls. 0:20:36.280 --> 0:20:39.080 And this for you white guys to know that um 0:20:39.320 --> 0:20:42.719 serm is about the only drug of trade that the 0:20:42.720 --> 0:20:47.199 blacks control. They knew the mix, they knew the formula 0:20:47.280 --> 0:20:50.359 for the PCP and the SWAT. Yeah, and guess what, 0:20:51.040 --> 0:20:54.119 that's automatically a license hate that how they do us, 0:20:55.320 --> 0:20:58.000 that's automatically. Wasn't your boy from New York coming to 0:20:58.160 --> 0:20:59.840 l A and taking it to New York the one 0:20:59.840 --> 0:21:02.560 that got into it with all of them? You know 0:21:02.840 --> 0:21:06.560 you're talking about zip and yeah, they said, but those 0:21:06.600 --> 0:21:12.120 they my boys. I'll be kidding. Yeah, that's why I said, 0:21:12.200 --> 0:21:15.679 yo boy, Because I don't know how popular Sherm and 0:21:15.720 --> 0:21:17.680 Water got in New York, but if it did, it 0:21:18.080 --> 0:21:20.480 was through von Zi. Yeah. Know, when I was a 0:21:20.560 --> 0:21:25.240 kid in New York, the drug of choice was heroin. Heroin. 0:21:25.320 --> 0:21:27.439 Everybody's doing heroin and all the blacks are doing here, 0:21:27.520 --> 0:21:29.879 I'm talking about the needles in the arm heroin. But 0:21:29.920 --> 0:21:32.960 they was doing though. And we're talking about early seven 0:21:33.040 --> 0:21:34.840 he got put in. You'll be talking. I keep telling 0:21:34.880 --> 0:21:37.720 you, you you gotta put date the seven seventies. I don't 0:21:37.760 --> 0:21:40.480 recall Sherman the seventies and New Yeah, like you said, 0:21:40.520 --> 0:21:43.800 it was seventies seven and seventy eight, seventy nine when 0:21:43.800 --> 0:21:46.520 the Sharon was hot. I mean when it was on 0:21:46.560 --> 0:21:50.080 the streets because cocaine they really hit our community. I 0:21:50.119 --> 0:21:53.119 don't remember to eighty two they were smoking Sherman before 0:21:53.119 --> 0:21:57.680 they started with the shooting ship. There's only one side 0:21:57.760 --> 0:22:02.280 with shooting was doing like the seven days and then 0:22:02.440 --> 0:22:07.680 yeah seven PCP was before and motherfucker's putting the PCP 0:22:07.840 --> 0:22:12.040 down and started doing doing the So I got a 0:22:12.119 --> 0:22:14.560 ton the way I got the Heroin for dog Fools 0:22:14.600 --> 0:22:22.040 from and then old school. Yeah, so the old school 0:22:22.160 --> 0:22:26.040 they always was into that. That the needle. But our 0:22:26.119 --> 0:22:29.920 guy like like yo yo, yeah, most of the most 0:22:29.920 --> 0:22:34.000 of the homies, that's what they were hooked on. So 0:22:34.119 --> 0:22:40.520 many mothers on she get used to be so bad 0:22:40.840 --> 0:22:42.400 and you knew it as a cop when a bad 0:22:42.400 --> 0:22:45.640 batch was out, everybody was running up down the street streaking. 0:22:46.280 --> 0:22:56.520 But right pitch uh Stanley, Yeah, okay, but I love 0:22:56.600 --> 0:22:58.760 that part because I don't want to put nobody out there. 0:22:59.359 --> 0:23:04.879 One in the loud park up under the headquarters and 0:23:05.119 --> 0:23:07.359 some chick came over there and said the wrong ship 0:23:07.920 --> 0:23:12.600 and she was attacked and gotta gotta rest remove removing 0:23:12.920 --> 0:23:19.680 like in the park like yeah that Shermon's Sherton was 0:23:20.240 --> 0:23:23.680 back then, and you were strong as ox strong man. 0:23:23.680 --> 0:23:26.600 I don't remember. We always got a cop hurt when 0:23:26.640 --> 0:23:28.040 you had to find. That's when they came out with 0:23:28.080 --> 0:23:30.280 the nets. They stopped telling them that y'all just circle 0:23:30.359 --> 0:23:32.399 them and throw the net on him and tie them 0:23:32.440 --> 0:23:35.080 up like down there a dog. You can just you know, 0:23:35.119 --> 0:23:37.119 when somebody was shutting up because he running down the 0:23:37.119 --> 0:23:39.480 street and you know it was a bad backstand. But 0:23:39.560 --> 0:23:42.320 when they did that. But you know now the Shermans 0:23:42.359 --> 0:23:44.480 still out there the way, Daddy's still out there. But 0:23:44.520 --> 0:23:47.720 guess who's on him now? Everyone around the Mexican Yeah, 0:23:50.440 --> 0:23:54.199 but they like that met that fetamine too. Yeah, but 0:23:54.280 --> 0:23:57.119 you know some blacks are starting that too. Remember no 0:23:57.240 --> 0:24:00.680 blacks was doing man that it's so bad that you said, 0:24:01.000 --> 0:24:03.439 like on the motorcycle set. A lot of them are 0:24:03.560 --> 0:24:06.040 using it. A lot of them doing that, blowing the 0:24:06.200 --> 0:24:09.200 methic ship and it's it's a new crap. It's sucking 0:24:09.240 --> 0:24:13.359 everything up. It's cheaper. It's cheaper. So if you can 0:24:13.400 --> 0:24:16.600 get it cheaper than going to buy fody and and 0:24:16.640 --> 0:24:18.800 get everybody in the house loaded, you can go by 0:24:18.800 --> 0:24:22.800 a ganging that ship and just be fucked up. But 0:24:23.320 --> 0:24:26.159 it's it's taking its toll on you. They don't do 0:24:26.240 --> 0:24:29.320 like cocaine like you gotta smoke that ship. For years, 0:24:29.400 --> 0:24:31.840 we look at cocaine so bad as a black race 0:24:31.960 --> 0:24:33.880 because we don't see so many of our people messed 0:24:33.920 --> 0:24:36.399 up behind that ship. But cocaine is actually a natural 0:24:36.440 --> 0:24:40.399 drug where methand fetomin is all chemicals, all chemicals, and 0:24:40.440 --> 0:24:44.119 it shows. It's not to say that boys and girls 0:24:44.119 --> 0:24:47.840 go out there and do some cocaine or hair that's 0:24:47.560 --> 0:24:51.640 rugs ship. But see, you know that's unfortunately, that's why 0:24:51.720 --> 0:24:53.480 people have to need that hot power for weed in 0:24:53.560 --> 0:24:57.919 them because most of our guys, their mamma's was on 0:24:57.960 --> 0:25:01.000 that ship in the eighties and it was in the system. Well, 0:25:01.040 --> 0:25:03.399 that's why most of the dudes need that weed and 0:25:03.440 --> 0:25:06.240 them they're still trying to get that that high because 0:25:06.240 --> 0:25:08.159 they when they were babies and ship and their mama's 0:25:08.160 --> 0:25:10.920 system they were getting it. It just seems there's something 0:25:10.960 --> 0:25:15.720 more dangerous about the manufactured chemical drugs like spice, math 0:25:16.840 --> 0:25:21.560 as opposed to your natural hardcore drugs cocaine, heroin. Not 0:25:21.600 --> 0:25:23.479 to say that any of this stuff is good, but 0:25:23.560 --> 0:25:27.160 that drugs, man, it just seems like it just takes 0:25:27.200 --> 0:25:30.960 people to a whole another level physically. Mentally. I didn't 0:25:30.960 --> 0:25:33.560 see them all. I don't see them all that's good. 0:25:33.600 --> 0:25:35.920 That that's the one good thing about marijuana. I think, 0:25:36.160 --> 0:25:40.440 let's keeping because you hear very few kids getting hooked 0:25:40.480 --> 0:25:43.639 on the cocaine, the rock cocaine and the myth and 0:25:43.680 --> 0:25:48.200 all of that. Well, it's very few out there using 0:25:48.280 --> 0:25:56.159 marijuana and using another drug. And and it's that and 0:25:56.240 --> 0:25:58.920 it goes with that cahol, you know what I'm saying. 0:25:59.119 --> 0:26:02.160 So somebody just catch behind the motherfucker and you don't 0:26:02.160 --> 0:26:05.200 even you can't even talk to nobody, because I mean, 0:26:05.240 --> 0:26:07.919 I ain't never smoked weed in my life, so I know. 0:26:08.560 --> 0:26:12.560 I mean, well, the first time I tried it, I 0:26:12.640 --> 0:26:15.199 flipped the funk out. I talked about everybody that was 0:26:15.240 --> 0:26:18.080 on the on the bleachers and wind up getting into 0:26:18.080 --> 0:26:20.720 a fight. My jaws swoll up, and I didn't like 0:26:20.760 --> 0:26:22.960 the feeling change that you did that all the time, 0:26:23.000 --> 0:26:27.919 you know what. I voted thish ocasions. But I'm just 0:26:27.960 --> 0:26:31.560 telling him my only experience that marijuana that was at 0:26:31.600 --> 0:26:33.639 one time, and I didn't like the feeling. And it 0:26:33.680 --> 0:26:36.480 was over, you know what I'm saying, over and done with. 0:26:36.680 --> 0:26:39.320 I didn't take polutar reports with James, I shot home. 0:26:39.320 --> 0:26:44.200 He's I mean, James, yea y'all. Just y'all know that 0:26:44.520 --> 0:26:48.199 y'all know the nice James. Well, this this is the 0:26:48.280 --> 0:26:53.320 James that's totally different. You know what I'm saying. That's older. 0:26:53.920 --> 0:26:55.760 You know what I'm saying, I'm not looking at game 0:26:55.840 --> 0:26:59.200 banging and none of that other ship ouncing ouncing situation 0:26:59.240 --> 0:27:02.240 gave me a whole differ perspective. She'll taught me a lot, 0:27:02.280 --> 0:27:07.040 whether people believe it or not, you know what I'm saying. 0:27:08.440 --> 0:27:11.520 One conversation I had with my Mom's taught me a lot. 0:27:12.280 --> 0:27:15.439 She said, none of the motherfucker's is your friends. I 0:27:15.520 --> 0:27:19.720 took the hood, my mama, you know what I'm saying. 0:27:19.960 --> 0:27:22.200 And at the end of the day, she was right. 0:27:22.800 --> 0:27:26.560 But it took my brother to look to get killed 0:27:26.880 --> 0:27:30.080 for me to really like see that ship. Now, I'm like, 0:27:30.320 --> 0:27:33.840 damn all of this ship. I put my mom's through 0:27:34.680 --> 0:27:38.000 and look what the hood did, Look what Sug did. 0:27:38.280 --> 0:27:43.320 Everybody iron trust. So I'm giving in. I'm giving myself 0:27:44.200 --> 0:27:47.359 one hunt and I'm getting back thirty five. I'm getting 0:27:47.560 --> 0:27:50.800 back this shicty ass motherfucker. You can't do me like 0:27:50.840 --> 0:27:56.160 that no more. I'm on some if the next motherfucking 0:27:56.240 --> 0:27:59.520 this real ship and it's like cross me like that 0:28:00.040 --> 0:28:02.119 and I give my all two and I had to 0:28:02.200 --> 0:28:08.320 kill him. Yeah. I'm just saying I've just got a 0:28:08.400 --> 0:28:11.760 poor uh since the judgment when it comes to people, 0:28:11.760 --> 0:28:14.240 and I'm thinking that I can just really read people. 0:28:14.359 --> 0:28:16.960 And you say, man, this guy is cool. This got 0:28:16.960 --> 0:28:21.800 one honey. Now let me see how it worked. All right, Well, 0:28:21.840 --> 0:28:25.960 let's get into our first question. Let's go of the episode. Um, 0:28:26.240 --> 0:28:28.760 first interesting question here. This is this question is pppost 0:28:28.800 --> 0:28:32.520 for all of us, whether it's in law enforcement, for Reggie, 0:28:32.680 --> 0:28:35.280 whether it's me for interviewing, or for you James, just 0:28:35.320 --> 0:28:37.399 in the streets. But who are some of the most 0:28:37.520 --> 0:28:41.880 reputable street gang guys, street guys that you ran ran 0:28:41.960 --> 0:28:47.840 across over your careers? Well me growing up, like I said, 0:28:47.920 --> 0:28:54.120 I know all the the uh Robert and Craig, the 0:28:54.280 --> 0:29:00.240 Munson's I'm reading across. Oh man, big Pokey, all those lows, 0:29:00.240 --> 0:29:04.760 some boys, the older ones. Um Man, I I ran 0:29:04.840 --> 0:29:07.200 it to some. I know a lot of reportable guys. 0:29:08.080 --> 0:29:11.120 I know. I know who a lot of them. Um, 0:29:11.240 --> 0:29:16.800 it's just just knowing that we just ran into I'm 0:29:16.880 --> 0:29:18.760 ran into it quite a few. I know, Reggie, you 0:29:18.840 --> 0:29:21.080 ran into a whole lot on the on the street here. 0:29:21.160 --> 0:29:23.760 I can name the names, and you know I call names. 0:29:24.520 --> 0:29:27.800 I don't mind calling names. It's gonna depend and maybe 0:29:27.920 --> 0:29:30.920 the female boy James on one of them, um blow 0:29:30.960 --> 0:29:33.360 as you don't say tray Vine was one of your 0:29:33.400 --> 0:29:38.040 reportables and were good Traylon Lane. Why do y'all say 0:29:38.120 --> 0:29:42.840 that there's so many trade Vons out there? That's what 0:29:42.880 --> 0:29:45.000 I wanted to be there so they can say, Now, 0:29:45.000 --> 0:29:47.960 I'm gonna take that back. Trayvond ain't said nothing and 0:29:48.160 --> 0:29:50.680 uh two weeks about me, so I'm cool on him. Well, 0:29:50.680 --> 0:29:52.640 I've never met Trayvon. In fact, I love to interview 0:29:52.720 --> 0:29:57.240 tray Von everybody, but a thinking about Go ahead, Reggie, 0:29:57.280 --> 0:29:58.840 who are some of the guys that you've crossed path 0:29:59.040 --> 0:30:01.200 stay on the red and blue side, And I'm just 0:30:01.200 --> 0:30:04.080 gonna mainly speak on confident because I don't know too 0:30:04.120 --> 0:30:07.240 many of the l A G l A guys only 0:30:07.280 --> 0:30:12.640 by reputation, but that I ran into personally. M George 0:30:12.640 --> 0:30:15.040 Wims was one. I mean, that's the one. I said. Well, 0:30:15.040 --> 0:30:21.480 maybe uh offend from from looters. Um James would be 0:30:22.920 --> 0:30:29.000 one from the mall in his era. Um Stanley Pitts 0:30:29.520 --> 0:30:34.680 uh doing his song yea from em Lane. I will 0:30:34.760 --> 0:30:43.160 go with with rock chisehlm um uh from Um from Santana. 0:30:43.840 --> 0:30:46.280 I would go a gangster or one of the twins 0:30:46.480 --> 0:30:50.600 for real. Uh Um, you wouldn't put Turtle on the 0:30:51.080 --> 0:30:55.000 Turtle was mainly a drug dealer. He was with thee 0:30:55.040 --> 0:30:56.920 TO but he was with but he was mainly known 0:30:56.960 --> 0:31:02.720 for making it happen, no making the sack. Let me say, 0:31:02.920 --> 0:31:07.040 I know, dude, he's a shooter. He's with it. He 0:31:07.040 --> 0:31:09.920 ain't gotta shoot you. I give credit with credit is 0:31:10.000 --> 0:31:13.200 due man, and and to leave him out, you might 0:31:13.200 --> 0:31:18.920 as well leave out gangster. But that's your's Marcel Marcetills 0:31:18.920 --> 0:31:23.360 from Nantana. Marcellus Um, you know he had this time. 0:31:23.400 --> 0:31:25.520 I remember they'm running forty eight under him and gangster 0:31:25.600 --> 0:31:28.920 running forty eight hunder for the locals. Um which was 0:31:28.960 --> 0:31:33.080 a jail module in l A County jail. Um big 0:31:33.160 --> 0:31:39.040 Duck from Fruit Town, him and his brother Um Dave 0:31:40.360 --> 0:31:46.080 Um trying to go by by street gangs is where 0:31:46.080 --> 0:31:49.360 I'm trying to go. I can't think of anyone off 0:31:49.440 --> 0:31:55.000 hand from Kelly Park right now. Uh from Santana block 0:31:55.440 --> 0:32:01.360 was younger Tony Lane Tony Lane played a big factor 0:32:01.400 --> 0:32:04.080 in all kind of ways in the hood. Yeah, I 0:32:04.080 --> 0:32:07.040 won't give him for getting in the car. I can go, 0:32:07.240 --> 0:32:10.040 so you go, and I can go to Momo, just 0:32:10.160 --> 0:32:14.240 like a one hundred solid rest in peace money, you know. Yeah, Momo. 0:32:14.640 --> 0:32:17.560 He was one hundred and and and a lot of 0:32:17.600 --> 0:32:22.520 people was hate no Momo because he was pretty much 0:32:23.160 --> 0:32:25.480 the whole package. It was a dude from tree Top 0:32:25.560 --> 0:32:28.800 that I don't remember escaped from the Compton courthouse. That 0:32:28.920 --> 0:32:31.040 was a killer that was from tree Top, her rule, 0:32:31.840 --> 0:32:35.920 big old dude and he escaped from the jail. Um 0:32:35.920 --> 0:32:39.160 from the courthouse when he came. Yeah, he from We 0:32:39.240 --> 0:32:41.120 got all of the fish tank they call it the 0:32:41.160 --> 0:32:48.280 fish tech and guy any limehoods Bryan mcgart Yeah, Um, 0:32:48.480 --> 0:32:51.600 it's it's it's a few livehoods over there. That's that's 0:32:51.600 --> 0:32:57.080 with it. But um, you got a bait and we 0:32:57.200 --> 0:32:59.040 forgot time to go, you know, because you can go 0:32:59.120 --> 0:33:01.000 both ways. Well, you got to put Marcus now on 0:33:01.080 --> 0:33:04.960 the top of the list of Compton. You gotta put 0:33:05.040 --> 0:33:07.680 him on the top. A lot of people don't understand 0:33:08.160 --> 0:33:12.320 Marcus paved the way for a lot of brothers in 0:33:12.360 --> 0:33:16.640 the neighborhood. Um, and he he stopped a lot of 0:33:16.720 --> 0:33:20.160 ship that would a lot of cats wouldn't have been 0:33:20.160 --> 0:33:24.160 here over b as and people thinking now this is 0:33:24.200 --> 0:33:27.480 me speaking from being in the hood and and being 0:33:27.520 --> 0:33:31.200 over there would have been seeing him seeing us get down. Uh, 0:33:31.400 --> 0:33:34.240 stopped a lot of ship from happening. You know, niggas 0:33:34.440 --> 0:33:38.040 do stupid ship, especially when they get drunk. And Marcus 0:33:38.120 --> 0:33:41.920 was more, let me talk to you first. If I 0:33:41.960 --> 0:33:45.760 can't talk to you, didn't fuck it. And and most 0:33:45.760 --> 0:33:48.040 of the times it was fucking and and and ship 0:33:48.160 --> 0:33:52.000 happened where it happened. And you can't blame it because 0:33:52.040 --> 0:33:55.480 you've been for you've been told fool. I don't think 0:33:55.480 --> 0:33:58.480 I'm playing with your type of ship. So you gotta 0:33:58.480 --> 0:34:01.560 put you gotta put Marcus none the chocolate list, you know, 0:34:01.760 --> 0:34:05.120 even just with that, because a lot of motherfucker's got 0:34:05.120 --> 0:34:08.600 power out there. Yea. And in the Mexicans. I want 0:34:08.600 --> 0:34:10.080 to go with uh. And I know he's out of 0:34:10.080 --> 0:34:14.080 the game now. But Lefty from CCGs compl Chicago Games. 0:34:15.160 --> 0:34:20.759 Yeah CCG that's small. Yeah Lefty and his little brother 0:34:22.680 --> 0:34:27.080 no CCGs okay, c VCG. Uh, Yeah, what was up 0:34:27.080 --> 0:34:30.760 with Lefty? He was a writer with him and his brothers, 0:34:31.520 --> 0:34:35.480 Junior and Agar. They stayed right next to to my 0:34:35.520 --> 0:34:38.759 grandmother house on Harrow Street, and man, it was just 0:34:38.840 --> 0:34:41.640 them in that little game and Penguin and all of them. 0:34:41.680 --> 0:34:43.759 And they used to give the else a gundules and 0:34:43.840 --> 0:34:47.160 the and the Seven Olds. Uh, that's on that side. 0:34:47.280 --> 0:34:49.120 I think the Chico seven Olds, they used to get 0:34:49.160 --> 0:34:51.640 them to run for their money. Uh. And there's some 0:34:51.760 --> 0:34:54.080 seven Olds, the guy we talked about on the last 0:34:54.120 --> 0:34:57.279 episode from Seven Olds the Twins from the one five 0:34:57.320 --> 0:35:01.080 five one of the oldest games in Compton, Mexican Games 0:35:01.080 --> 0:35:03.719 on I forget them because I don't you know, I 0:35:04.360 --> 0:35:07.120 don't forgot them. But though t flax they used to 0:35:07.160 --> 0:35:10.000 get here. But t flax was no joke, you know, 0:35:10.640 --> 0:35:12.640 to be honest, A lot of the youngsters for the 0:35:12.680 --> 0:35:15.880 Mexican Games did a lot of the work, and you know, 0:35:16.120 --> 0:35:19.239 they just had um guys that sent back to kind 0:35:19.239 --> 0:35:22.400 of sick amonia. So you know that they pretty much 0:35:22.440 --> 0:35:25.520 had some juice, but they didn't really do do much 0:35:25.560 --> 0:35:28.680 once they got to a certain status. But you could 0:35:28.760 --> 0:35:32.640 never slight the Mexican Games in competent um when it 0:35:32.719 --> 0:35:38.560 comes with Largo the Largos, you know, they were mainly 0:35:38.600 --> 0:35:42.040 in the county area north and so they were mainly 0:35:42.080 --> 0:35:45.120 but the Largos was you know, they were the ship 0:35:45.160 --> 0:35:49.520 the Great Streets of the Mexican side of the Great Streets. Uh. 0:35:50.239 --> 0:35:52.279 They you know people don't know this too. They got 0:35:52.560 --> 0:35:55.479 they called the south Side of the south Side. Yeah, 0:35:56.200 --> 0:36:02.239 I mean so and any names um for or let's say, well, 0:36:02.280 --> 0:36:08.799 we didn't mention HollyHood part us. Well, but you know 0:36:08.880 --> 0:36:12.600 everybody knows. Uh, everybody knows. It's too many people in 0:36:12.600 --> 0:36:17.520 the name. But I'm gonna do it like this. And 0:36:16.840 --> 0:36:21.360 from but every for every hood in Comton you had, 0:36:22.680 --> 0:36:25.840 you you had a reputable from there. You have to. 0:36:26.640 --> 0:36:28.680 And you had a lot of cats that was with 0:36:28.800 --> 0:36:34.680 the business from HollyHood that just wasn't really like getting down. 0:36:35.040 --> 0:36:37.200 But when it was time to get out, they was 0:36:37.200 --> 0:36:45.040 out there. Uh. Robert Reagans was one. Uh when he 0:36:45.160 --> 0:36:49.680 died eighty two, he was he was. He was a 0:36:49.719 --> 0:36:54.359 real cat. He was a real cat. And uh, it's 0:36:54.520 --> 0:36:57.400 it's it's at a lot of them. But my neighborhood, 0:36:58.520 --> 0:37:00.480 I mean where I used to live. I mean, you 0:37:00.520 --> 0:37:09.160 know neckbone uh uh. Wayne Bradford Loni Blood he was 0:37:09.160 --> 0:37:15.400 was was rest in peace. George Markham rest in peace country. 0:37:17.040 --> 0:37:20.600 Did I say neckbone? He didn't, but we talked about 0:37:21.320 --> 0:37:24.520 neck bone, Boomer. I mean we had we had so 0:37:24.600 --> 0:37:31.680 many uh shady Grady Juju uh c J. We said 0:37:31.760 --> 0:37:34.520 the majority of the hood was was with the business. 0:37:35.120 --> 0:37:37.879 You know what I'm saying. Uh, Pierre wrest In PIEC 0:37:38.080 --> 0:37:41.920 played this part, but wasn't so daddy. Yeah, he was 0:37:41.960 --> 0:37:47.640 more Hollywood have run JP. JP was a fool in 0:37:47.719 --> 0:37:52.600 his days. You know, everybody had that. Everybody had their spotlight. James, 0:37:52.600 --> 0:37:58.120 did you ever run across Bartender and O g ot Bartender? 0:37:58.440 --> 0:38:01.680 He got killed in seventy five. He when Bartender got killed, 0:38:01.719 --> 0:38:04.319 that's when everybody was starting to come out. Yeah, you 0:38:04.360 --> 0:38:07.120 know they when Bartender was out, that's when they had 0:38:07.160 --> 0:38:09.600 the headquarters and them dudes was doing their own thing, 0:38:09.960 --> 0:38:14.839 the older guys, and then I don't want to tell 0:38:14.840 --> 0:38:20.080 the story, but when he passed, I knew of his situation, 0:38:21.040 --> 0:38:24.680 you know what I'm saying, And uh, it was crazy 0:38:24.920 --> 0:38:26.960 and that that's one of the reasons why I say, 0:38:27.280 --> 0:38:29.239 you know, all of this ship that's happened in the 0:38:29.360 --> 0:38:32.720 day was happening back then in them days. Homies killing 0:38:32.760 --> 0:38:37.960 homies uh, homies setting up homies, homies working with homie girlfriends. 0:38:38.719 --> 0:38:42.000 And the Bartender was like a legend with us growing up. 0:38:42.040 --> 0:38:46.680 Bartender was with them. Yeah he was, yeah him and uh, 0:38:46.680 --> 0:38:50.160 what's the name in the wheelchair? This go Danny. Uh 0:38:50.320 --> 0:38:56.040 that's how Danny got got well, he got he got 0:38:56.120 --> 0:38:59.440 shot with He was always at the gas station on 0:39:01.200 --> 0:39:04.439 that's his name from from Los. I mean, if you'll 0:39:04.440 --> 0:39:07.680 ever been in at that list, which old Dog was 0:39:07.719 --> 0:39:10.520 one honey, and you know he was one of those 0:39:10.520 --> 0:39:14.680 slicks them talking his brothers. I think he's still over there. 0:39:14.719 --> 0:39:17.719 I don't know where. I think. I think because I 0:39:17.840 --> 0:39:21.360 know Danny, Danny. Danny was killed. Yeah, I got killed. 0:39:22.040 --> 0:39:24.440 But Old Dog was when you when you had your 0:39:24.440 --> 0:39:28.160 interview with Cynthia or whatever happening, Old Dog straight up 0:39:28.200 --> 0:39:32.160 solid like he got he got you doing it coming 0:39:32.200 --> 0:39:40.319 from his wheelchair. Yeah taking Yeah, Brad feeling rose. They 0:39:40.320 --> 0:39:45.320 to that down. So there's a story behind Bartender that 0:39:45.400 --> 0:39:47.759 I guess we're not gonna go into. No, No, I 0:39:48.239 --> 0:39:51.760 know this was forty something, I mean, but still people, 0:39:53.000 --> 0:39:55.879 this this is why people talk about me because I'm 0:39:56.040 --> 0:39:58.080 quick to say whatever the funk I need to say, 0:39:58.640 --> 0:40:01.839 and I'm saying this to say, okay, something that would 0:40:01.840 --> 0:40:06.799 be spoke on something it's not. Uh. I learned back 0:40:06.880 --> 0:40:11.799 then not to speak on his situation, the situation that 0:40:11.840 --> 0:40:15.600 he was in involved in. And you know, I don't 0:40:15.719 --> 0:40:17.640 will bring some gang experts. I don't let them talk 0:40:17.640 --> 0:40:20.879 about it. Yeah, Rick Baker, he'd been Rick Baker being 0:40:20.920 --> 0:40:24.040 on there. I thought talking on on on channel that 0:40:24.120 --> 0:40:26.719 I had pulled up Bartender's address and I thought it 0:40:26.760 --> 0:40:30.640 was weird where he lived where it's Santana blockhood. Now 0:40:31.200 --> 0:40:35.040 he didn't live in with Looters Park or what east 0:40:35.080 --> 0:40:38.680 side Parroue. He lived in what became Crip neighborhood. No, well, 0:40:39.040 --> 0:40:44.320 actually it was MS Street. He give the M Street, 0:40:44.600 --> 0:40:52.279 which is like us. Well rock Chism used to live 0:40:53.239 --> 0:40:55.640 from you. But then when they moved over there in alms, 0:40:56.080 --> 0:41:01.440 like George Markham's backyard was Santana, And I know there 0:41:01.480 --> 0:41:03.439 had to be a bunch of Campanella's that was making 0:41:03.440 --> 0:41:06.800 noise back in then the west side. That's county area, 0:41:07.120 --> 0:41:10.320 I mean, that's Campanella's County. Yeah. You know what's interesting, 0:41:10.360 --> 0:41:12.240 A lot of people don't know a lot of people 0:41:12.360 --> 0:41:17.080 a lot of these sets claimed Compton aren't incomprem Yeah 0:41:19.320 --> 0:41:22.600 Dr Dre but you know he was over there, calla 0:41:22.840 --> 0:41:28.440 Campanella's county. Campanella's county. The park. Compton is really l 0:41:28.520 --> 0:41:32.319 a wat Well willow Brook. I think it's county. It's 0:41:32.360 --> 0:41:34.399 great before you go to the pier court of problem. Yeah, 0:41:35.040 --> 0:41:37.800 what's so what's that little land between Compton and the 0:41:38.000 --> 0:41:41.600 project and the project and watch yeah that No, but 0:41:41.600 --> 0:41:45.200 it isn't that called like willow Brook. That's what Martin 0:41:45.280 --> 0:41:46.880 Luther Keene and all of that is. So all the 0:41:46.880 --> 0:41:53.080 hoods and willow Brook claim Compton. The dudes, uh remember 0:41:53.120 --> 0:41:57.439 else god a hundred seven? What's the boys over there? 0:41:57.600 --> 0:42:02.440 Um not under You got Carver Carver? I think is 0:42:02.600 --> 0:42:08.680 um county? Awesome Carver. But they say Compton. Yea, everything 0:42:08.719 --> 0:42:11.480 about Centennial High School all the way till you get 0:42:11.520 --> 0:42:16.319 across the street from Elsa Gondo Compton and they and 0:42:16.360 --> 0:42:18.839 all those guys from back all the way to Rose 0:42:18.920 --> 0:42:24.000 class past, Uh, going into Carson, it's Compton. They claimed 0:42:24.040 --> 0:42:26.840 Compton Lantana which is de run right in the Compon, 0:42:26.960 --> 0:42:29.919 I mean the Corson and then there's ever the six 0:42:30.000 --> 0:42:34.640 hood six Hood. That's what I thought. They just really 0:42:34.719 --> 0:42:40.560 saying sell Weed. They're not in Compton, but I always 0:42:40.560 --> 0:42:42.399 find it interesting about I don't know, this is about 0:42:42.440 --> 0:42:46.600 six or seven different sets, but you know, Carver is 0:42:46.640 --> 0:42:48.759 an old hood. It goes back even though it's not 0:42:48.840 --> 0:42:52.560 in Compton, it uh goes back to about nineteen seventies 0:42:52.600 --> 0:42:59.800 seventy one. They've been around Long Corner Parker. Um. We 0:43:00.480 --> 0:43:03.160 really didn't have too many internactions what they're over there. 0:43:05.280 --> 0:43:07.640 And there's also I was just thinking of all the 0:43:07.640 --> 0:43:11.279 different Compton sets that are not in Compton, but they 0:43:11.320 --> 0:43:14.560 all have some gangsters in them. Oh yeah, definitely, they 0:43:14.600 --> 0:43:17.480 all definitely do. You won't survive if you don't have 0:43:17.600 --> 0:43:20.319 none nowhere, and especially in your hood. If your hood 0:43:20.360 --> 0:43:24.359 ain't got nobody with the business, it won't survive. How 0:43:24.360 --> 0:43:27.560 come Willowbrook don't got a representation like well you got 0:43:27.560 --> 0:43:30.600 to your Spook Towns Occasion block. It was really Occasion 0:43:30.640 --> 0:43:32.400 which is right right behind it. Yeah, but they all 0:43:32.440 --> 0:43:39.360 everyone claims Compton crip. Nobody claims, but I ain't. Some 0:43:39.440 --> 0:43:42.560 railroad tracks and now in the Metro rail, but you 0:43:42.680 --> 0:43:45.960 got neighborhoods in that area. They split them because on 0:43:45.960 --> 0:43:49.000 one side of the track you got one gang and 0:43:49.040 --> 0:43:51.960 then you know, it's like you got Sentana on one 0:43:52.000 --> 0:43:55.440 side of the railroad track and then in treetop on 0:43:55.480 --> 0:44:00.600 the other side. Alright, you know Willowbrook where we Someone 0:44:00.640 --> 0:44:02.880 asked me, Uh, I guess this question was like, what 0:44:02.920 --> 0:44:06.719 are some of the most reputables that I've interviewed? Um, 0:44:06.760 --> 0:44:09.520 you know, he did have the biggest game in Compton 0:44:09.640 --> 0:44:20.560 on which and I trying to think of some of 0:44:20.600 --> 0:44:23.480 the most reputable guys that I've interviewed. It's harder for 0:44:23.520 --> 0:44:26.600 me to think, Oh, I've interviewed Bear from eight nineties Coasts. 0:44:26.760 --> 0:44:31.200 He was a well known eight nine actually interviewed uh 0:44:31.360 --> 0:44:36.600 a Mexican mafia um Earnest Roy bou Kill Roy from 0:44:36.600 --> 0:44:41.480 White Fence. He was seventy five years old too. Oh yeah, 0:44:41.520 --> 0:44:43.680 that's right. Actually, you know what, Craig Munson is probably 0:44:43.680 --> 0:44:47.839 the most reputable reputable street gangster that a boy white 0:44:47.880 --> 0:44:54.400 boy from Yah as a juvenile. Remember he was a 0:44:54.440 --> 0:44:57.600 fool at fourteen. A lot of guys wouldn't deal with 0:44:57.800 --> 0:45:01.520 the Munson's back then. They were at him. Seven brothers, man, 0:45:03.320 --> 0:45:06.640 the one you gotta worried about it is is uh 0:45:07.160 --> 0:45:11.480 Craig and Teddy Teddy Teddy like I said he to 0:45:11.600 --> 0:45:13.560 be do his pimp thing, but he was with the 0:45:13.600 --> 0:45:16.239 business like mother, You're knock your head though. But then 0:45:16.280 --> 0:45:20.799 the younger one, runt rest in peace. He was yeah, monster, yeah, 0:45:21.560 --> 0:45:23.400 And I was just surprised to find out you actually 0:45:23.400 --> 0:45:28.200 had a relationship with Yeah, my best friend Street uh No, 0:45:28.360 --> 0:45:32.600 brothers del Dog and his his brother Mike and Mike Mike, 0:45:32.960 --> 0:45:36.680 Mike Yeah, Mike Preacher, Yeah, he ap preach once the 0:45:36.760 --> 0:45:40.359 year my pastor, and then got a good relationship Ice. 0:45:40.440 --> 0:45:42.680 Mike is a good brother. Man. Now, I'm gonna say 0:45:42.719 --> 0:45:45.600 that the Munson family is probably the most reputable street 0:45:45.640 --> 0:45:49.040 guys in the history of Los Angeles, for real. And 0:45:49.160 --> 0:45:51.759 right in that same alley where if you're going the 0:45:51.760 --> 0:45:55.040 alley over there, Buddy House, right when you crossed the 0:45:55.040 --> 0:45:57.160 alley to come into the other part there is eighty one. 0:45:58.080 --> 0:46:01.240 You had a guy over there name Bubble. My uncle 0:46:01.320 --> 0:46:03.640 was in town. Now, Man, you got a meeting one 0:46:03.680 --> 0:46:09.440 that we're talking about a couple of weeks ago, Saturday. 0:46:09.800 --> 0:46:11.239 But I'm gonna give you his number so you can 0:46:11.280 --> 0:46:13.279 talk to him. You get a lot from you. But 0:46:13.400 --> 0:46:16.319 Bubba was one of the coldest cats I ever knew. 0:46:17.239 --> 0:46:21.880 He was uh, what's up? Holy smile at you and 0:46:21.960 --> 0:46:26.359 that night he's gonna take yours. George ain't got nothing 0:46:26.360 --> 0:46:29.560 on him. Bub we're doing life right now. But it 0:46:29.719 --> 0:46:31.360 was a lot of guys over there. Man that was 0:46:31.400 --> 0:46:36.799 really with the with the business. Um uh. It was 0:46:36.840 --> 0:46:40.960 the swan cat over there named Baby too cool was 0:46:41.000 --> 0:46:44.799 with the business. And I was a youngster growing up 0:46:45.360 --> 0:46:48.479 being over there, and he used to get him cast 0:46:48.560 --> 0:46:53.480 the blues. I'm talking about hit niggers with shovels. He was. Yeah, 0:46:53.600 --> 0:46:58.600 he was with the business from love b over there. 0:46:58.680 --> 0:47:01.480 He had a brother, both him and killed tweet Tweetie 0:47:01.520 --> 0:47:05.759 tweet tweeter and b l oh my god. They they 0:47:05.760 --> 0:47:11.719 put stuff on bo Now. I interviewed Teddy Munson. It's 0:47:11.760 --> 0:47:13.359 an interview that no one's ever seen because I never 0:47:13.360 --> 0:47:15.919 posted it. But in the interview, he tells me that 0:47:16.480 --> 0:47:21.720 my older brother Craig was a monster that had sense. 0:47:22.680 --> 0:47:25.920 But he said, my little brother Run he was a monster. 0:47:26.000 --> 0:47:28.520 But sometimes his stuff just does not make sense and 0:47:29.200 --> 0:47:33.120 I couldn't control him anymore. I can tell you about run. 0:47:34.280 --> 0:47:38.439 Rug was like this, if we're friends, we're friends. If 0:47:38.440 --> 0:47:41.719 we ain't and I hear you feel otherwise, I'm gonna 0:47:41.760 --> 0:47:43.920 stand right next to you and I'm gonna knock you 0:47:44.000 --> 0:47:47.279 the funk out and run I got a reputation in 0:47:47.440 --> 0:47:52.080 kitchen cripp hood knocking niggers out. Just one here to quitter. 0:47:52.600 --> 0:47:55.840 He was a big guy. I say, Run was about 0:47:56.360 --> 0:48:02.759 six five straight. I'm talking about athlete. Didn't do no athletics, 0:48:02.760 --> 0:48:05.680 ship whatsoever, but had the body of it. You couldn't 0:48:05.840 --> 0:48:11.960 You couldn't touch him. He was solid and and good people. 0:48:12.280 --> 0:48:15.200 But if you didn't wrong he was, he would It 0:48:15.200 --> 0:48:18.520 didn't matter. You can't talking about the ship. You couldn't 0:48:18.560 --> 0:48:21.600 tell him know that ain't cool. You couldn't talking about 0:48:21.600 --> 0:48:25.760 the ship. Man. He's the only brother that was murdered. Yeah, exactly. 0:48:25.760 --> 0:48:29.759 He was killed by the Swans. So and I don't 0:48:29.760 --> 0:48:32.160 want to forget my boy Ray mcgowand and then from 0:48:32.200 --> 0:48:38.520 the Bunny Hunters and r name McGowan. Yeah, I was 0:48:38.560 --> 0:48:44.239 just thinking of people that that Bonny Hunt rat. You 0:48:44.239 --> 0:48:50.200 know my relative to meet you boys. Man. I got 0:48:51.280 --> 0:48:54.880 man well, you know outside His first learning of Bounty 0:48:54.960 --> 0:48:57.680 Hunter is a death row video for the people who 0:48:57.680 --> 0:49:01.920 aren't from kell FTV. Yeah, I heard in that video 0:49:02.040 --> 0:49:04.840 that uh that they dragged sugar into the bathroom and 0:49:04.880 --> 0:49:07.160 had some words for him. But I was at there. 0:49:07.400 --> 0:49:10.719 You was actually there. I was there standing next me 0:49:10.800 --> 0:49:14.680 and my og hummy waltsing big walk. And what happened 0:49:14.760 --> 0:49:17.080 was Bunny had a rat and green Eyes walked up 0:49:17.120 --> 0:49:21.000 to it. But when I seen green Eyes walking toward him, 0:49:21.000 --> 0:49:25.239 I already know, hold of homie, I can't let you 0:49:25.320 --> 0:49:27.480 do that. He said. No, No, I ain't what you think. 0:49:27.640 --> 0:49:31.680 I said, Bunny rats and Bunny? How the hi? No? 0:49:31.760 --> 0:49:33.600 I got him? What I need to holidight? This came 0:49:34.280 --> 0:49:39.800 just business. Where's Bunny right now? Yeah? So you shouldn't 0:49:39.800 --> 0:49:44.560 even did that. You shouldn't even did that, man, that dude, 0:49:44.560 --> 0:49:49.399 what boy like that? Should So anyway, when Bett said 0:49:49.400 --> 0:49:52.560 I want to highlight him, should already know I got him. 0:49:52.600 --> 0:49:55.399 I got two pisces on me. Bunny had the rat, 0:49:55.400 --> 0:49:58.799 got thirteen fourteen year old, catch all of them pistoled up. 0:50:00.080 --> 0:50:02.920 So when him in, green Eyes saying, we gotta we 0:50:02.960 --> 0:50:06.759 gotta get at it because already money is being took 0:50:06.840 --> 0:50:10.040 it from him to give it to Harryoll. He'd been 0:50:10.080 --> 0:50:13.640 paying his debt or what the old or whatever HARRYO wanted. 0:50:14.239 --> 0:50:17.520 This is my goons, nigger they here, so he knew 0:50:17.560 --> 0:50:20.799 what was going on. So I'm not gonna let y'all 0:50:20.800 --> 0:50:25.239 take him in his bathroom. So walks that hold up Homie, Bunnie, Huda, 0:50:25.320 --> 0:50:27.879 Rat don't know walk. So he looked at what like, 0:50:29.120 --> 0:50:33.840 we can do something. Now hold up Rat. So shocks 0:50:33.880 --> 0:50:36.399 and no, no to me, I got it. I'm going there. 0:50:37.200 --> 0:50:41.319 Are you serious? Are you? Are you sure? And he 0:50:41.360 --> 0:50:44.320 said yeah, I'll be on the minute. So I backed 0:50:44.400 --> 0:50:48.280 up and said, told Rat, just them two in the bathroom. 0:50:49.000 --> 0:50:53.200 Shoot Bunnie, Honna, Rat and greenout three them three. So 0:50:53.480 --> 0:50:57.600 me and walk stood right there. No, Bob got he 0:50:57.719 --> 0:51:02.960 didn't go in there. Okay, I was there and when 0:51:03.000 --> 0:51:05.880 when that happened, wasn't there? No, I didn't say he 0:51:05.920 --> 0:51:08.360 went that the shoot. He wouldn't in that room in 0:51:08.400 --> 0:51:11.480 the bathroom. This for sure, I know that act walking, 0:51:11.680 --> 0:51:15.279 But wasn't it wasn't a little upset that that the 0:51:15.320 --> 0:51:17.799 homies is pressing sugar and they're trying to get their 0:51:17.800 --> 0:51:20.719 career and explained something. The little homies came funk with 0:51:20.760 --> 0:51:23.400 the big homies. They came funk with the big homies. 0:51:23.600 --> 0:51:27.439 Bonnie Hunda Rat was a big homie. I mean they 0:51:27.560 --> 0:51:30.279 was they had to press her on as if if 0:51:30.320 --> 0:51:32.600 you don't you already know what I'm talking about. It's 0:51:32.640 --> 0:51:35.640 been times where rating them come to the goddamn office 0:51:36.440 --> 0:51:39.200 and motherfucker's just slide that ship in no conversation that 0:51:39.360 --> 0:51:42.319 they should get their package off the table and leave 0:51:42.719 --> 0:51:47.480 package of money, no conversation whatsoever. So don't run man, 0:51:47.480 --> 0:51:49.680 my niggarressing peage. Don't y'all don't do him like that. 0:51:50.360 --> 0:51:52.880 He was with the business, and sul knew he was 0:51:52.920 --> 0:51:56.080 a soldier, and he when he saw a Bonnie Hanna 0:51:56.160 --> 0:52:00.279 rat straighten that shut up, and he did what you 0:52:00.320 --> 0:52:02.560 have to do. I ain't gonna sugar coach for sugar. 0:52:03.239 --> 0:52:06.719 He paid his way, and he knew he had to pay. 0:52:07.160 --> 0:52:09.319 He knew he owed those guys, So when he saw 0:52:09.360 --> 0:52:13.000 those faces, he already knew what the situation was. So 0:52:13.080 --> 0:52:15.480 doing that video and there I thought they was finning 0:52:15.560 --> 0:52:19.080 doing like on some real ship. And and that was 0:52:19.120 --> 0:52:23.320 the atmosphere. That was the whole feeling act walk I 0:52:23.800 --> 0:52:28.040 ain't got it felt fucked up. And that's why one 0:52:28.080 --> 0:52:30.919 of my reasons for not wanting Shill to go in there. 0:52:32.120 --> 0:52:34.160 You know what I'm saying, now, Thank you we're in 0:52:34.160 --> 0:52:39.480 the projects. It's folteing. It's all the little boys out there, 0:52:39.520 --> 0:52:42.239 got guns, babies, and if you look at that video, 0:52:42.280 --> 0:52:44.799 there's at least a hundred bloods out and and and 0:52:44.840 --> 0:52:52.880 they was all packing. We just got killed because close together. 0:52:53.320 --> 0:52:56.959 But man, but that wouldn't have been worth it. That 0:52:56.960 --> 0:52:58.920 that was the bief that that has nothing to do 0:52:59.000 --> 0:53:02.040 with us, you know what I'm saying. That's a money 0:53:02.080 --> 0:53:05.239 proposition that that man made with another person. And and 0:53:05.280 --> 0:53:08.040 now you don't want to, you know, do what you 0:53:08.160 --> 0:53:10.680 have to do. That ain't our business. That ain't our fight. 0:53:11.360 --> 0:53:13.960 So that was one fight should have had to deal with, 0:53:14.920 --> 0:53:16.719 you know what I'm saying, Like with the with the 0:53:16.760 --> 0:53:19.879 goddamn rams, this is the fight you gotta deal with. 0:53:20.520 --> 0:53:23.319 Why are we fighting for? For your Bluis ship? So 0:53:23.360 --> 0:53:25.600 it was ratting green Eyes there on behalf of Harry. 0:53:25.680 --> 0:53:29.799 Oh kind of on their own thing. Always suspect that 0:53:30.320 --> 0:53:33.600 their own thing or they was there for. They was there, 0:53:34.760 --> 0:53:37.120 uh for Harry. I didn't want to say that ship, 0:53:37.640 --> 0:53:41.279 but yeah, I mean, what other reason why they be there? 0:53:41.520 --> 0:53:44.080 What they be there? They're not just extorting money from 0:53:44.160 --> 0:53:48.799 should First it started off, boys said come holl let 0:53:48.840 --> 0:53:53.320 you it manly. Was David Kenner too. David. We was 0:53:53.360 --> 0:53:56.560 at the office one day and they came up to 0:53:56.600 --> 0:53:58.439 the office and for those who don't know, we're talking 0:53:58.480 --> 0:54:01.919 about the video call track them by O. F. TB. 0:54:03.800 --> 0:54:06.320 It's one of the hardest videos that you know, shows 0:54:06.400 --> 0:54:09.879 the gang culture and shot in the Nicholson Gardens housing 0:54:09.920 --> 0:54:12.000 projects back in the early nineties. But go ahead, Reggie, 0:54:13.120 --> 0:54:16.359 and they came and they got on the uh they 0:54:16.480 --> 0:54:19.719 was kipt napping David Kinner off the elevator and they 0:54:19.760 --> 0:54:23.080 all about five of them, and we were just so 0:54:23.239 --> 0:54:28.080 happened getting in the elevator coming off the elevator and 0:54:29.040 --> 0:54:34.759 they had David Kinner on the elevators, about seven or 0:54:34.760 --> 0:54:36.480 eight of us coming and we got on the elevator 0:54:37.800 --> 0:54:40.759 and they just walked and they just kept walking. David 0:54:40.800 --> 0:54:43.960 Kinner state on the elevator and David Kinner was like, 0:54:44.640 --> 0:54:48.080 thank you guys, thank you guys. Y'all just save my life. 0:54:48.920 --> 0:54:50.520 But that was that was just one of the moves 0:54:50.600 --> 0:54:53.759 that he made. That was a move by him now 0:54:54.000 --> 0:54:57.080 thinking that Okay, I can't be touched by this cat. 0:54:57.520 --> 0:55:00.359 That's any one of us. I got you, What can 0:55:00.400 --> 0:55:03.120 you do? To me from where you stand, you know, 0:55:03.120 --> 0:55:05.280 and that's being in prison for the rest of your life. 0:55:05.560 --> 0:55:09.279 So you feel you good? Now you bring everybody else 0:55:09.320 --> 0:55:16.080 into your bullshit because this person has friends, goons. I 0:55:16.160 --> 0:55:20.879 get it. If you're paying me good, I'm we we're going, 0:55:21.560 --> 0:55:24.080 and that's with anybody in the hood, big homie. The 0:55:24.160 --> 0:55:27.880 homies got a problem, and it's it's concerning money. Let's roll. 0:55:28.719 --> 0:55:40.600 But I'm suretb Upset was loan, know what I'm saying. 0:55:40.600 --> 0:55:43.919 That was the situation that they could not even get 0:55:43.920 --> 0:55:48.840 involved in unless it turned into something that day, you 0:55:48.880 --> 0:55:51.759 know what I'm saying, Just like me personally. The only 0:55:51.760 --> 0:55:54.440 reason why I spoke on it is because I didn't 0:55:54.440 --> 0:55:57.560 want them to do ship and I wouldn't feel let 0:55:57.560 --> 0:56:00.680 it happen like that, you know what I'm saying. But 0:56:01.000 --> 0:56:04.000 I was as sure Schuk said, I got it, I'm 0:56:04.239 --> 0:56:06.560 going here and let me talk to him real quick, 0:56:06.840 --> 0:56:10.120 but looking at me like, you know what I'm saying. 0:56:10.360 --> 0:56:13.880 So when he said that, okay, I'm already knowing what 0:56:13.920 --> 0:56:16.920 you're going in their fault. I know what they're talking about. 0:56:17.120 --> 0:56:20.720 You've been dodging the phone calls, you ain't been sitting 0:56:20.719 --> 0:56:24.560 at that package like it's supposed to be. Nigger was adding, 0:56:27.640 --> 0:56:30.799 so now we gotta come see you type of ship. 0:56:30.920 --> 0:56:32.400 So then why would he even show up at that 0:56:32.480 --> 0:56:34.400 video shoot if he knew he was gonna get pressed 0:56:34.600 --> 0:56:38.520 because everybody else is there and at that time he 0:56:38.680 --> 0:56:41.759 just got caught slipping. I mean, if I'm sure, I'm 0:56:41.760 --> 0:56:43.959 saying to myself, I know green Eyes and rat gonna 0:56:43.960 --> 0:56:46.239 be there, me I really want to show up. The 0:56:46.239 --> 0:56:50.240 Shio doesn't have to be there. Ask this question. SiO 0:56:50.280 --> 0:56:53.600 can took his way out of a motherfucking if it's 0:56:53.600 --> 0:56:55.719 a tornado finner hit. If he had pointed his hands 0:56:55.760 --> 0:56:58.280 and tell you to get in front of the motherfucker 0:56:58.320 --> 0:57:01.120 posting him. Him and rat had they working relationship, but 0:57:01.360 --> 0:57:03.719 that way basically he was giving the money. He had 0:57:03.760 --> 0:57:07.880 a working relationship, They had a working relationship. They had 0:57:07.880 --> 0:57:11.720 a working relationship, and I guess he figured that everything 0:57:11.719 --> 0:57:15.960 would be all good. So what actually happened in the 0:57:15.960 --> 0:57:17.880 bathroom they put hands on him and was just conversation. 0:57:19.680 --> 0:57:23.440 They worked it out and Ratnam came to the office 0:57:23.480 --> 0:57:27.200 after after that, and and she continued to be what 0:57:27.280 --> 0:57:32.400 it was and then um Rad was Rad got killed 0:57:33.520 --> 0:57:35.960 and then after that. Yeah, after that, So the rumors 0:57:36.000 --> 0:57:38.040 that should got beat up in the bathroom not true. 0:57:38.360 --> 0:57:43.200 He didn't give me the know, No, he came close, 0:57:43.880 --> 0:57:47.000 didn't get dragged into the bathroom. They all walked in 0:57:47.040 --> 0:57:50.360 there together. Na, she didn't had niggas with him that 0:57:50.520 --> 0:57:54.040 was ready to do whatever. They wasn't gonna kill because 0:57:54.080 --> 0:57:57.640 we didn't have to. Wen't have we had deep how 0:57:57.720 --> 0:58:01.920 deep with the parrous that day? Y'all aren't deeper than 0:58:01.920 --> 0:58:07.400 the bounty hunters us. But everybody would spread it out, 0:58:07.880 --> 0:58:10.240 you know what I'm saying. And uh, you know, motherfucker's 0:58:10.280 --> 0:58:12.520 walking around smoking their weed and doing all of this, 0:58:12.600 --> 0:58:15.160 and that that was the day of not drinking. That 0:58:15.280 --> 0:58:17.640 was the day of no smoking weed. To to mind 0:58:17.800 --> 0:58:21.880 what I think. Because ship, we don't have previous party 0:58:22.000 --> 0:58:26.280 nights over there and the projects and and one body 0:58:26.280 --> 0:58:29.280 had walked up to my home boy. Well, well this 0:58:29.400 --> 0:58:32.720 nicker name Drew and just said can I get uh 0:58:32.880 --> 0:58:35.360 sip of that eight ball? And he gave him a 0:58:35.400 --> 0:58:37.840 simple ship and he's like, damn this ship good and 0:58:37.920 --> 0:58:40.640 walked away with the bottle. Now do I kill us 0:58:40.720 --> 0:58:45.120 nigga for taking my for the house or do I 0:58:45.200 --> 0:58:48.360 just let him have the motherfucking let him have it. 0:58:48.440 --> 0:58:53.480 Let him have it, because they're ready here in the projects. 0:58:53.840 --> 0:58:56.760 So that's one neighborhood you don't want to go mingling 0:58:56.840 --> 0:59:01.120 because they ain't got no it's no who's board and 0:59:01.120 --> 0:59:03.320 you start running around in no projects, I don't know 0:59:03.360 --> 0:59:08.840 where if you feel like killing somebody in the projects 0:59:09.480 --> 0:59:13.560 about I think l APD actually has um. Yeah they 0:59:13.640 --> 0:59:15.840 have a pass to shoot anyone they want in there. 0:59:16.880 --> 0:59:19.960 Oh yeah, they have the most officer involved. There's more. 0:59:21.240 --> 0:59:26.240 And maybe the police make them crazy. It's a it's 0:59:26.240 --> 0:59:28.600 a two way relationship. I know one thing. The police 0:59:28.640 --> 0:59:31.040 just don't go in there beating yours. They go in there, 0:59:31.080 --> 0:59:33.080 they ain't watching that, they ain't let go. What would 0:59:33.160 --> 0:59:35.240 make what would make people get on the roots of 0:59:35.280 --> 0:59:37.480 the projects and start shooting black and white while their 0:59:37.480 --> 0:59:40.439 crews through there just because they're crazy or that there's 0:59:40.440 --> 0:59:44.120 a relationship in that area that has made them crazy. 0:59:44.280 --> 0:59:46.560 I know the police go on their cracking heads, and 0:59:46.640 --> 0:59:48.120 that's one of the reasons why they do with that. 0:59:48.320 --> 0:59:53.720 When they go they go right, let them go. They 0:59:56.240 --> 0:59:59.520 gotta shoot first policy in the Nickolson Gardens and it 0:59:59.600 --> 1:00:04.480 goes back the stand first A long time. You know what, 1:00:04.960 --> 1:00:08.080 someone should actually do a documentary on how many unarmed 1:00:08.080 --> 1:00:10.920 people been shot and killed in the Nickerson Garden housing projects. 1:00:10.960 --> 1:00:13.280 I chased some guys in the Nickerson from Compton one time. 1:00:13.360 --> 1:00:16.439 All the way in there. The guy that killed one 1:00:16.480 --> 1:00:21.880 of my good friends Compton cops named Kevin Barrell, REJ Thomas. 1:00:21.920 --> 1:00:27.080 He killed two cops traffic stop boom boom and Kevin Barrell. 1:00:27.680 --> 1:00:30.000 How does the one guy gun down two cops in 1:00:30.000 --> 1:00:37.320 the traffic stop because cops, some cops are scared now. 1:00:37.360 --> 1:00:39.920 He had him, he had him on, he had him 1:00:39.920 --> 1:00:45.280 on the on the car and Kevin mr gun well 1:00:45.320 --> 1:00:49.040 with the searching he pushed got Kevin real quick. The 1:00:49.080 --> 1:00:51.920 other cop, I believe. Let me just say this from 1:00:51.920 --> 1:00:54.400 a cop field. Don't get mad. What's going to retreat? 1:00:55.040 --> 1:00:57.960 Froze up any card? You know. He was a reserve. 1:00:58.160 --> 1:01:02.800 He was his actually his last day of working for 1:01:02.920 --> 1:01:04.760 Confident as a reserve. He was on his way to 1:01:04.880 --> 1:01:10.600 the San Jose Police Department as a regular last day. 1:01:11.000 --> 1:01:14.520 Red Just Thomas, that's just houmas. And he was convicted 1:01:14.560 --> 1:01:20.840 of killing both officer Kevin Burrell and James McDonald's that's 1:01:20.880 --> 1:01:26.600 what shock meet. But James McDonald was the big white boy, right. Yeah, 1:01:26.640 --> 1:01:35.040 he was a big old Kevin Police station. He was 1:01:35.080 --> 1:01:38.600 one of the kids who grew up and play basketball 1:01:38.600 --> 1:01:41.800 with Gilly Davis. And then I'm not coming comfortable. My 1:01:41.880 --> 1:01:45.880 last question on this is o FTB never put out 1:01:45.880 --> 1:01:49.040 an album under Death Row. They always appeared on soundtracks 1:01:49.080 --> 1:01:53.520 after soundtrack after soundtrack. One soundtrack, I think was it 1:01:53.600 --> 1:01:56.280 just one? I think they didn't. They didn't even make 1:01:56.280 --> 1:01:59.320 the Well, I think they on the cassette. They made 1:01:59.360 --> 1:02:03.320 the Murder the Case, So why didn't they get pushed harder? 1:02:03.400 --> 1:02:06.640 Whatever happened to their career as a group. That was 1:02:06.640 --> 1:02:09.400 probably the realist gangsters that ever signed the Death Row. 1:02:10.480 --> 1:02:12.160 Come on, tell me who did get put out on 1:02:12.200 --> 1:02:18.120 Death Roll. Just a handful of folks exactly. Orb was 1:02:18.160 --> 1:02:23.000 actually one of buntry manager. He managed them they're gonna 1:02:23.000 --> 1:02:24.320 be put out. If if they got put out, it 1:02:24.400 --> 1:02:26.480 was gonna be on ghetto records. Most people don't know 1:02:26.520 --> 1:02:33.400 the Sugar created a secondary label for for for the Homies. 1:02:33.440 --> 1:02:35.960 But I'm sure if TB thought were we got an 1:02:35.960 --> 1:02:39.480 album coming out? So yeah, were only that's why they're here. 1:02:39.760 --> 1:02:41.840 An album they never got. They never put it out, 1:02:42.440 --> 1:02:45.040 never to put out? Who did you know? Lady and 1:02:45.160 --> 1:02:48.480 Rage eventually got something put out? But other than Rage, 1:02:48.480 --> 1:02:51.320 who did other than the ass you know, the dog 1:02:51.400 --> 1:02:56.160 pound Snoop bor or pop? Did Danny Boy put it 1:02:56.240 --> 1:02:59.480 on out? Never? Never? Danny Boy was pretty much on 1:02:59.600 --> 1:03:04.240 everybody ship, but he didn't even get paid for that. 1:03:04.560 --> 1:03:08.160 Oh my god, Oh my god, the middle back. Hold on, 1:03:08.320 --> 1:03:11.760 hold on, let me go back to interview. Okay, that's 1:03:13.840 --> 1:03:17.640 shop an album out. This man will had a living 1:03:17.680 --> 1:03:20.760 in Britain, wood in a condo, had a personal assistant. 1:03:21.240 --> 1:03:23.600 Uh is that the kind of music career you want 1:03:23.640 --> 1:03:25.680 to have just being on the bunchtually guy put out? 1:03:25.840 --> 1:03:28.040 Did you hear all type of artists telling YouTube took 1:03:28.080 --> 1:03:30.080 me ten years, five years to get an album out. 1:03:30.840 --> 1:03:33.640 That was a step. Death Row went to went to 1:03:33.680 --> 1:03:39.280 president and then everything had to get re everything. It 1:03:39.320 --> 1:03:44.439 didn't stop. It didn't stop but stuff and he because 1:03:44.560 --> 1:03:47.600 people didn't have the patience and they started acting on 1:03:48.600 --> 1:03:51.160 acting funny and all right, since we're talking about death Row, 1:03:51.800 --> 1:03:54.440 we got another question. Who on death Row was the 1:03:54.480 --> 1:03:58.360 most opposite of what they portrayed. And let's say, regardless 1:03:58.360 --> 1:04:00.320 of they put an album out or not just one 1:04:01.000 --> 1:04:03.280 who was signed a death Row who was doing music 1:04:03.320 --> 1:04:06.080 with death Row, who goes who was opposite of the 1:04:06.120 --> 1:04:10.520 image that they portrayed the most? Well, what kind of 1:04:10.560 --> 1:04:13.520 image did he portray that he was? He wasn't that 1:04:13.640 --> 1:04:19.960 he was had what is it sexual? Oh well, I 1:04:20.000 --> 1:04:26.160 don't think that's with you know what. You know he 1:04:26.200 --> 1:04:29.320 was writing, he was writing love song. You know, this 1:04:29.360 --> 1:04:35.280 show was nothing to be about talking about my god. 1:04:35.360 --> 1:04:37.320 That man, that's some ship you just go around. I 1:04:37.360 --> 1:04:42.040 think the question had to do it more about the image. 1:04:42.120 --> 1:04:46.000 It's a st a street image, a non street image, 1:04:46.040 --> 1:04:50.720 you know. You like, Well, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna 1:04:50.720 --> 1:04:53.920 say Snoop and and and and I don't want abody 1:04:53.920 --> 1:04:57.680 to take this role. I just think Schnoop wasn't like 1:04:58.760 --> 1:05:02.000 really affiliated, like really into the gang's deep like he 1:05:02.120 --> 1:05:04.840 said he was, or how he patrolled like you just 1:05:05.360 --> 1:05:08.720 you know this, Yeah, you know what I'm saying. I 1:05:08.760 --> 1:05:10.959 don't I don't believe he was like that. I think 1:05:10.960 --> 1:05:14.240 he got more of a soft design than that that. 1:05:15.520 --> 1:05:18.000 I gotta be this tough crip kind of kind of do. 1:05:18.560 --> 1:05:20.760 Whether it was crip or blood, it don't matter. I 1:05:20.800 --> 1:05:24.920 don't think he had it any It was him like 1:05:24.920 --> 1:05:28.080 like he said, he like he said he is and 1:05:28.080 --> 1:05:31.800 and you know, I think trying to try to play 1:05:31.880 --> 1:05:35.160 both parts and trying to be this type of person 1:05:35.760 --> 1:05:38.680 got him in trouble a little bit, you know, because 1:05:38.720 --> 1:05:42.280 you can't you run around all day trying to be 1:05:42.360 --> 1:05:45.200 this tough as cat. At the end of the day, 1:05:45.280 --> 1:05:49.240 somebody gonna test that ass. When that ass get tested you, 1:05:49.720 --> 1:05:52.520 it's a must that you be ready for it. If not, 1:05:53.200 --> 1:05:57.280 your asses out, just like going to penitentiary. If you 1:05:57.360 --> 1:06:00.960 get funk one time and and seem c and wind 1:06:01.000 --> 1:06:03.920 up and FoST him, motherfucker's gonna know you've been fucked. 1:06:04.800 --> 1:06:07.960 It gets there that quick. And just imagine this bullshit 1:06:08.080 --> 1:06:10.760 and all the little ship that he didn't his encounters. 1:06:11.240 --> 1:06:14.400 He didn't ran into certain cash I'm hearing he didn't 1:06:14.600 --> 1:06:18.520 got hit or he ran from Trayvon, Uh some other bullshit. 1:06:18.600 --> 1:06:21.200 Come on, man, that ain't no that ain't no gamester man, 1:06:21.680 --> 1:06:24.280 that ain't no gagster. He told me about when Trayvon 1:06:24.360 --> 1:06:27.080 got socked him at the Universal amples what you're talking about. 1:06:27.640 --> 1:06:31.320 But ship like that, that type of roll straight to 1:06:31.360 --> 1:06:37.800 the police with marijuana and pocket. Yeah, you basically he 1:06:37.840 --> 1:06:40.800 was about to snitch on Trayvon. It was about your 1:06:41.440 --> 1:06:44.960 saying he was about to snitch an well he did, 1:06:45.320 --> 1:06:49.280 actually did. He told the cop acting and saying who killed? 1:06:50.080 --> 1:06:53.760 Who killed? Um Tupac? This is what the cop acting 1:06:53.880 --> 1:06:57.640 And he said, oh, the person sitting next to him, 1:06:57.760 --> 1:07:02.600 who's your that Snoop? Oh maybe that's lying because that's 1:07:02.600 --> 1:07:06.800 not true. Well, who was he lying on? Trayvon? He 1:07:06.920 --> 1:07:09.840 was saying, is that next doing? Well, you know that's 1:07:09.880 --> 1:07:15.640 because he was not. He wasn't lying. His money paid 1:07:15.680 --> 1:07:19.640 for us for two pucks to get killed? No, not you? 1:07:20.360 --> 1:07:26.120 Thank you everybody up. I basically, what are they gonna 1:07:26.120 --> 1:07:32.000 put that? Hell, you're gonna be all on the jay mob? 1:07:32.080 --> 1:07:36.000 James say, super paid for two to get killed? No plea. 1:07:36.160 --> 1:07:38.520 He didn't say that, y'all. I didn't say that, all right. 1:07:38.560 --> 1:07:40.960 So so Snoop was one of those guys that represented 1:07:41.000 --> 1:07:44.160 an image that that that wasn't that really wasn't happy. 1:07:44.560 --> 1:07:46.280 Let me let me ask the reverse of this question. 1:07:46.280 --> 1:07:50.680 Who was the realist street cats that were artists at 1:07:50.720 --> 1:07:54.760 Death Throw? I think I think Corrupt was was more 1:07:54.840 --> 1:08:00.160 solid than all of them. I don't Corrupt was more 1:08:00.200 --> 1:08:04.200 stand up to me when I seen't corrupt than uh 1:08:04.520 --> 1:08:07.439 those other guys there when the niggas was crying for 1:08:07.440 --> 1:08:10.520 for protection and help after the niggas, after that stuff 1:08:10.560 --> 1:08:13.720 happened that they al ray, So I would say that trade. 1:08:13.760 --> 1:08:15.480 He is probably one of the real street cats that 1:08:15.560 --> 1:08:17.519 I know. He wasn't signed to death Row, right, but 1:08:17.600 --> 1:08:20.360 he worked with cats up there. We sat were cool, 1:08:20.439 --> 1:08:22.599 they were solid. I never ran into him, Yeah, but 1:08:22.640 --> 1:08:26.960 they were solid. They're not like they portrayed. They're not 1:08:27.040 --> 1:08:29.400 like I d end up having to do some time 1:08:29.400 --> 1:08:32.720 in prison for shooting it. But yeah, actingly what he 1:08:32.760 --> 1:08:34.920 was on when he did that, What do you mean 1:08:36.560 --> 1:08:39.640 You're talking about under the influence, So that don't make 1:08:39.680 --> 1:08:43.720 it for games. I mean most people, well ever since 1:08:43.760 --> 1:08:45.559 the sixties, people used to take red devils before they 1:08:45.600 --> 1:08:47.760 putting their work. Now it's uh, well most dudes get 1:08:47.840 --> 1:08:49.640 drunk and not. But I'm just saying he was and 1:08:49.680 --> 1:08:52.360 he shot that knew who just explained to me what's 1:08:52.680 --> 1:08:55.200 was about. He knew what he was used to pushing 1:08:55.320 --> 1:08:57.160 up on. He didn't think that he would go to 1:08:57.200 --> 1:08:59.719 Diamond Bar police or the l County shars and follow 1:09:00.040 --> 1:09:01.960 report against me. Now I'm interest didn't know. Why do 1:09:02.000 --> 1:09:04.519 you think James, Why don't think corrupt was solid? What 1:09:04.560 --> 1:09:08.559 did you see? Just just the way he walked this way, 1:09:08.760 --> 1:09:11.920 I thought by him he was more to himself. He 1:09:11.960 --> 1:09:16.760 wouldn't really like trying to be improved to all these 1:09:16.760 --> 1:09:19.280 bloods that he was with it. He didn't know extras on. No, 1:09:19.400 --> 1:09:21.679 he didn't have to do that, you know what I'm saying. 1:09:22.400 --> 1:09:27.479 Sometimes Snoop was always the to one guy. You know 1:09:27.520 --> 1:09:29.880 what I'm saying. Just because you're a crimp, just because 1:09:29.920 --> 1:09:33.200 you're blood, don't mean you have to say blood before 1:09:33.280 --> 1:09:37.519 you finish your sentence. Yeah, cousin and you know cousin, Yeah, 1:09:37.600 --> 1:09:41.320 cousin and and we which caling like that. Cuse what 1:09:41.400 --> 1:09:43.200 are you talking about? None of the artists was like 1:09:43.880 --> 1:09:46.799 or built the way they were. Even Shoo Shoot Shoot 1:09:47.200 --> 1:09:50.120 Ship was an actor. He perpetrated. I don't be honest. 1:09:51.640 --> 1:09:54.720 You know he learned he had to do with him. 1:09:54.920 --> 1:09:57.960 That was his backup. He started claiming mob when he 1:09:58.200 --> 1:10:01.680 got back from college when he was three years old. 1:10:01.840 --> 1:10:04.840 And I really do say I take the blame for it. 1:10:04.920 --> 1:10:08.040 It is my fault. It's my fault for bringing sugar. 1:10:09.400 --> 1:10:12.000 Now should living in the hood and everybody getting twisted. 1:10:12.120 --> 1:10:13.840 When Shoard came to me when I got out of 1:10:13.920 --> 1:10:19.920 prison and I introduced shoot people, he didn't know. And 1:10:19.960 --> 1:10:22.760 that's what God should should took it up on the 1:10:22.880 --> 1:10:26.720 shelf to start mingling and and and dealing with other 1:10:26.760 --> 1:10:29.160 people and saying what he can do and what are 1:10:29.160 --> 1:10:31.760 he's gonna do? But you knew shook from before then, 1:10:32.280 --> 1:10:34.439 but your brother didn't know shook from before then. No, 1:10:34.960 --> 1:10:40.360 no sho. That's how storycles and school Linwood. But let 1:10:40.360 --> 1:10:43.840 me just say this about you should who had Ronald 1:10:43.920 --> 1:10:48.000 Donald his cousins, the twins with thes and so they 1:10:48.040 --> 1:10:52.080 were big who at Lynwood, which was kind of a 1:10:52.280 --> 1:10:54.800 nice school. And that's why we didn't go to the mingus. 1:10:54.920 --> 1:10:57.799 We went to the nicer school and was playing football 1:10:57.840 --> 1:11:01.880 and stuff like that. But they weren't no punks on 1:11:01.880 --> 1:11:06.680 that campus. The Knights did have to start at Lanwood, 1:11:06.800 --> 1:11:09.160 and and Ronald and Donald used to fix that ship. 1:11:09.840 --> 1:11:14.280 Ron and don we gotta You got the Knights and 1:11:14.320 --> 1:11:17.759 then you got the Jackson's. Remember the twins and Donald 1:11:17.800 --> 1:11:22.160 Donald johns all was with the business. But even even 1:11:22.240 --> 1:11:26.320 should so by introducing shig all these bloods, he was 1:11:26.360 --> 1:11:29.759 just like what the fuck? You know what I'm saying, 1:11:29.800 --> 1:11:34.000 he was blown away. Should wasn't wearing red suits and 1:11:34.000 --> 1:11:36.559 and and all his other ship. He wasn't doing that. 1:11:36.560 --> 1:11:39.120 He was more and so mom saying he wasn't on 1:11:39.160 --> 1:11:41.600 the game bang and expect. But he still had a 1:11:41.600 --> 1:11:43.880 little size on him and he would he would be 1:11:43.920 --> 1:11:46.160 the mouth Era one and but he did have his 1:11:46.280 --> 1:11:49.240 back up with his cousins and then took advantage of 1:11:49.240 --> 1:11:52.240 the situation. Okay, I got all these motherfucker's. Now I 1:11:52.280 --> 1:11:55.920 can recruit other motherfucker's, but you got the best of 1:11:56.000 --> 1:12:00.320 the best. When when Juju and Buntry and and neck 1:12:00.400 --> 1:12:04.280 Bone and the weakest link is Traybone, when you got 1:12:04.360 --> 1:12:07.200 all these motherfucking hitters and all these kinds coming that 1:12:07.200 --> 1:12:08.960 I ain't gonna say Trayvon ain't gonna do what you 1:12:08.960 --> 1:12:13.760 have to do. But now should feel like, okay, I 1:12:13.800 --> 1:12:17.120 can be this person. So they turned into a goddamn 1:12:17.920 --> 1:12:20.240 You had the crew and and and and and then 1:12:20.240 --> 1:12:22.680 he got exposed once he lost his crew and no 1:12:22.880 --> 1:12:25.160 district never lanes and all of them. But that's who 1:12:25.200 --> 1:12:27.759 he started hanging with, and he was promising that stuff, 1:12:27.760 --> 1:12:29.600 and they were thinking, Okay, he's gonna make us this 1:12:29.720 --> 1:12:31.240 or he's gonna put this album out for us, and 1:12:31.240 --> 1:12:34.280 he's gonna do this. And then they started falling off, 1:12:34.320 --> 1:12:36.680 and you know, and he'll go. And that's why at 1:12:36.680 --> 1:12:39.640 the end he was running around with different but the 1:12:39.720 --> 1:12:43.040 pyrou members and not anybody from the hood should got 1:12:43.040 --> 1:12:46.040 caught up in at the And that's why he got 1:12:46.080 --> 1:12:48.479 knocked out by the barber, or that's why he got 1:12:48.520 --> 1:12:54.400 knocked out by uh that boy, uh the guy at 1:12:54.600 --> 1:12:59.400 in Super Bowl. Um, goddamn, Like I said, if you 1:12:59.439 --> 1:13:02.559 don't have a playing B. If you if you're gonna 1:13:02.600 --> 1:13:06.200 be a fucking thug and you're talking all this ship 1:13:07.520 --> 1:13:10.760 talking all this ship and and and people tire of 1:13:10.840 --> 1:13:12.960 that ship. Now, now you gotta prove yourself to me, 1:13:13.479 --> 1:13:17.000 which what it should be now, playing B. If you 1:13:17.040 --> 1:13:19.439 don't got playing B, you're gonna get your ass whooped. 1:13:19.760 --> 1:13:22.040 Now you ain't number of ship talking, you're running your mouth. 1:13:22.360 --> 1:13:24.960 Fuck you, you you ain't gonna do nothing. So that's what 1:13:25.080 --> 1:13:27.400 happened to Shig. At the end of the day, your 1:13:27.479 --> 1:13:30.320 your your status is gone, all these guys is gone. 1:13:31.360 --> 1:13:33.240 All you have to do is look to your side. 1:13:33.240 --> 1:13:36.120 And motherfucker's just taking off on people. You know what 1:13:36.160 --> 1:13:40.240 I'm saying, you don't have to fight. You're not gonna 1:13:40.280 --> 1:13:42.800 never lose the fight. When you got fifteen niggas beating 1:13:42.800 --> 1:13:44.880 the ship out of one nigga and you jump in, 1:13:45.560 --> 1:13:51.920 you're not gonna lose. But should has sucks motherfucker's But goddamn, 1:13:51.920 --> 1:13:55.439 I'm not gonna fight you back all these motherfucker's but 1:13:55.520 --> 1:13:58.719 motherfucker's in Vegas. I wonder if took a fair faith 1:13:58.880 --> 1:14:03.800 one on one head up somebody we had to fight 1:14:03.840 --> 1:14:06.759 with the Rams, and sheild came all the way inside 1:14:06.760 --> 1:14:11.920 the goddamn clubhouse, Roxberry who was at and got everybody called, 1:14:12.000 --> 1:14:15.320 everybody told everybody it was on. And there was one 1:14:15.520 --> 1:14:18.400 guy from the RAMS that he didn't like when he 1:14:18.479 --> 1:14:21.160 was trying out for the Rams, and dude was out 1:14:21.200 --> 1:14:24.240 there talking ship to him. That's why you didn't make 1:14:24.280 --> 1:14:26.760 the team to cut the wood the woof and then 1:14:26.960 --> 1:14:30.599 stretched his Uh was that a band's the Pink One 1:14:31.080 --> 1:14:37.360 Future stretched that motherfucker with his key and she didn't 1:14:37.360 --> 1:14:40.200 do ship. Why are you coming to get us? And 1:14:40.240 --> 1:14:43.800 this dude did this to you in your face right there. 1:14:43.960 --> 1:14:47.680 I just took off on his motherfucking ass. He ran 1:14:47.760 --> 1:14:50.240 in there and got all of us. Now we come 1:14:50.920 --> 1:14:53.439 all these other motherfuckers start getting out their car, standing 1:14:53.520 --> 1:14:56.160 up like I'm looking like, what the funk look at 1:14:56.160 --> 1:14:59.000 this dude neck. I mean, they were some big bump 1:14:59.080 --> 1:15:01.280 so he was actually a play. You're on the rams. Yeah, 1:15:01.280 --> 1:15:05.879 all of them was tea or whatever. They at Roxbury 1:15:06.600 --> 1:15:10.320 and uh and uh, after it was all over because 1:15:10.320 --> 1:15:12.760 we was whooping their ass. We was whooping their ass. 1:15:12.840 --> 1:15:14.640 They did. I betually they don't want to fight no 1:15:14.760 --> 1:15:18.920 more because we whipped their ass. And uh, we were 1:15:18.960 --> 1:15:21.559 standing on cars kicking them upside the head and ship. 1:15:21.640 --> 1:15:24.680 They were just so tall, big motherfuckers sucking them up 1:15:25.000 --> 1:15:29.479 and h. After it was all over, we asked you 1:15:29.600 --> 1:15:31.760 what the fund was going on and he said, this 1:15:31.880 --> 1:15:35.799 motherfucker stretched my car and the broad that was standing 1:15:35.840 --> 1:15:38.680 there with the Rams was like, no. He called you 1:15:38.720 --> 1:15:41.479 whoo the woo whoo motherfucker and stretched your car and 1:15:41.600 --> 1:15:44.320 your face and asked you what the funk you want 1:15:44.360 --> 1:15:47.479 to do? And you left pretty much ran from the 1:15:47.560 --> 1:15:50.880 situation and came and got us. But fucking that the 1:15:51.040 --> 1:15:52.920 at the dude then got out of the car and 1:15:52.960 --> 1:15:55.600 stood over there by the whole boy. Okay, now that's on. 1:15:56.520 --> 1:15:59.400 This is the This is the gesture, y'all. Just this 1:15:59.439 --> 1:16:03.479 is saying like, fuck you nikas, let's go and ship 1:16:03.560 --> 1:16:05.320 we took off to you guys basically had like a 1:16:05.320 --> 1:16:09.960 little rumble. We beat the ship out the rams. So 1:16:10.000 --> 1:16:11.680 that's something that Shou should have just handled one on 1:16:11.680 --> 1:16:13.840 one with that was a situation. So you guys came 1:16:13.880 --> 1:16:17.400 in with misinformation. Yeah, well he never told us what 1:16:17.479 --> 1:16:21.479 was going on. But these motherfucker's out here tripping. So 1:16:21.560 --> 1:16:24.760 after the whole thing was over, because one of the 1:16:24.800 --> 1:16:27.000 twins that was the only one that went to jail, 1:16:27.400 --> 1:16:29.120 and he only went to jail because he was still 1:16:29.200 --> 1:16:31.920 beating the ship out to motherfucker in the street, kicking 1:16:32.000 --> 1:16:34.960 him up on the goddamn car and the police rolled up. 1:16:36.400 --> 1:16:41.559 But Ship, he was at the goddamn uh office before 1:16:41.600 --> 1:16:44.599 we made it fast. He was out that fast. So 1:16:46.000 --> 1:16:48.559 by Shook doing what he what what what he did, 1:16:48.600 --> 1:16:51.360 should should have handled his motherucking business as a man. 1:16:51.600 --> 1:16:55.360 But he couldn't do that because everything else was fake titious. 1:16:55.439 --> 1:16:58.639 His whole getting down was a joke. But now you've 1:16:58.640 --> 1:17:02.599 been exposed at that point by this one dude. So 1:17:02.640 --> 1:17:05.200 that's what I say, everybody ain't built for that ship. 1:17:05.680 --> 1:17:08.519 You can play it, but everybody ain't built for it, 1:17:08.720 --> 1:17:12.800 and don't nobody. Everybody don't have a player b So 1:17:12.880 --> 1:17:18.240 any other characters at Death Row that portrayed themselves one 1:17:18.280 --> 1:17:22.439 way but we're really another way. We mentioned Snoop Sugar, 1:17:29.600 --> 1:17:32.600 You're I didn't deal with and they don't have to 1:17:32.600 --> 1:17:35.960 be no street stuff because for example, we all know 1:17:36.240 --> 1:17:39.000 Michelle A story. But when I was young listening to 1:17:39.040 --> 1:17:42.759 Michelle A, she came off as the most innocent, nice, 1:17:43.560 --> 1:17:47.120 friendly singer. And then when you know, as we learned stuff, 1:17:47.160 --> 1:17:51.280 I'm like, wow, you know that she got caught up 1:17:51.320 --> 1:17:55.400 in but she was a drunk um, but she you know, 1:17:56.640 --> 1:17:58.639 she was just like everybody else doing what they're doing 1:17:58.640 --> 1:18:00.799 to try to get a check. And so that's all 1:18:01.080 --> 1:18:04.160 I mean. Later um, as far as I mean, because 1:18:04.200 --> 1:18:08.720 she slept with with everybody, are are the guys that 1:18:08.760 --> 1:18:13.240 she did sleep with? Jillian Sugar, I mean everybody who 1:18:13.320 --> 1:18:20.519 they ain't with us who goes down as the realist artist, 1:18:20.560 --> 1:18:24.559 the real the most solid, the most realist, the most sincere, 1:18:24.840 --> 1:18:29.200 honest person that ever came associated themselves with the label. 1:18:31.080 --> 1:18:33.360 I don't know that that was associated with the label, 1:18:33.360 --> 1:18:36.360 but was cool. It was it was it was what 1:18:36.520 --> 1:18:42.040 it for a minute, Um, I'm not gonna say none 1:18:42.040 --> 1:18:50.200 of and and eight the super Fest, that was the 1:18:50.200 --> 1:18:53.240 coolest dude I ever met. And and the reason why 1:18:53.240 --> 1:18:57.679 I say that is he was performing, had to perform, 1:18:58.240 --> 1:19:01.920 and it was a situation between the New York Cats 1:19:01.920 --> 1:19:06.000 out there and the police, and he came out. I 1:19:06.080 --> 1:19:08.920 had my Homeboys show both working at the time. It 1:19:09.040 --> 1:19:11.880 was guys in the in the concert snatch and chains 1:19:11.920 --> 1:19:14.400 and doing all his other ship, but the police was 1:19:14.439 --> 1:19:17.400 about to beat the ship out these guys my boys 1:19:17.400 --> 1:19:19.920 show bol picked the motherfucker up on his neck and 1:19:20.080 --> 1:19:23.120 was walking his dude all the way down the stairs, 1:19:23.800 --> 1:19:27.160 just took him from the police and just motherfucking woo 1:19:27.200 --> 1:19:30.639 woof hold of him and uh Komo d came over. 1:19:30.640 --> 1:19:33.400 There was like, damn, what the fund is going on here? 1:19:34.120 --> 1:19:38.840 That was the coolest cat and just having the small conversations. 1:19:39.840 --> 1:19:42.400 You can see he was with it. He was with it, 1:19:42.479 --> 1:19:46.160 but he was and his brother was there and he 1:19:46.280 --> 1:19:49.439 was just a cool motherfucker. I the most the other 1:19:49.479 --> 1:19:51.559 ones I've been. He didn't funk. And then talk you 1:19:51.600 --> 1:19:54.479 know of late as an artist. I just want to 1:19:54.520 --> 1:19:56.880 go back to the artist of late who seems to 1:19:56.960 --> 1:19:59.519 be like that, and people are gonna be shocked at 1:19:59.520 --> 1:20:03.559 I said it was that dash of late, not when 1:20:03.640 --> 1:20:07.439 he was younger, but of late. Daths been. Um, he's 1:20:07.439 --> 1:20:09.599 been out there doing whatever he needs to be doing. 1:20:10.920 --> 1:20:14.760 I will say, da pure. Even though he told he 1:20:14.840 --> 1:20:19.040 told a fake story about masters, Yeah, that's just that. 1:20:19.200 --> 1:20:22.479 But I'm saying that's I'm saying yeah, yeah, I mean 1:20:22.560 --> 1:20:25.559 he don't know the Latin Masters or all of that. 1:20:25.640 --> 1:20:27.400 I mean, I don't know what he had, but we 1:20:27.439 --> 1:20:29.439 took it back from his wife. But you know that 1:20:29.479 --> 1:20:32.360 ask me out there. You know, I like I like 1:20:32.560 --> 1:20:35.559 Das even though Dad's always talking about me still like that. 1:20:37.200 --> 1:20:40.280 I can't think of an artist that was that was 1:20:40.320 --> 1:20:42.479 about about it, because that's the second part of the 1:20:42.560 --> 1:20:45.719 question you asked, right, I can't think of an artist. 1:20:45.920 --> 1:20:50.760 Quick was definitely fake. Um, Quick was fake. Now I'm 1:20:50.760 --> 1:20:53.720 gonna defend Quick Man. We went to quick house three 1:20:53.720 --> 1:20:57.400 in the morning. He was scared shaking. I mean, he's 1:20:57.400 --> 1:21:02.640 a knocked under. Me and tray Bone the two softest 1:21:02.640 --> 1:21:07.559 ones on the It don't matter, man, You're you're drilling 1:21:07.640 --> 1:21:10.439 in when you're about to feel like you're in the occucation. Man. 1:21:10.479 --> 1:21:13.559 You're gonna start shaking anyway when you because you're you. 1:21:13.560 --> 1:21:15.640 You pumped up now and you feel the butterflies and 1:21:15.680 --> 1:21:19.760 all that ship because you know something that happened. Now 1:21:19.800 --> 1:21:22.280 He did bounce up and came up with at the 1:21:22.320 --> 1:21:25.639 office the next day. When I said, I've never known 1:21:25.680 --> 1:21:27.400 him for being in this shood to be no bitch 1:21:27.439 --> 1:21:33.120 asking me personally, actually me and mass around you should 1:21:33.160 --> 1:21:34.880 hang over that way. He didn't. He want him and 1:21:34.920 --> 1:21:37.120 Dred didn't like the drama. That's one thing I can 1:21:37.120 --> 1:21:39.960 say about him. They didn't like. They didn't like that. 1:21:41.479 --> 1:21:43.880 They didn't like that, and trying to be a bully 1:21:43.920 --> 1:21:47.880 with everything and everybody. Now he slapped his bodyguard because 1:21:48.080 --> 1:21:51.600 she still told him, you need to discipline anymore. I 1:21:51.640 --> 1:21:54.320 won't do it for bringing a gun on on the road. 1:21:55.120 --> 1:21:59.280 Let me slap this niggah. I got so yeah, So 1:21:59.400 --> 1:22:02.160 he did that. Ain't not wrong with that. He fired 1:22:02.240 --> 1:22:07.439 on Zelli for from HollyHood. Remember Zell, because because they 1:22:07.479 --> 1:22:10.799 found out that he took All Eyes on the album 1:22:10.920 --> 1:22:13.840 up to Uh to the Car. Washington was up there 1:22:13.840 --> 1:22:17.439 selling it to Melvin And now and untouchable sounds. I 1:22:17.479 --> 1:22:20.800 don't know, I don't know. That's that's that's a hard questions. 1:22:21.560 --> 1:22:24.200 Where's a lot of guys out there that portrayed which 1:22:24.200 --> 1:22:26.120 is cool. I mean these guys trying to make money, 1:22:26.120 --> 1:22:31.360 they really are artists really yeah, yeah, it's entertainment. Yeah 1:22:31.439 --> 1:22:34.519 and me artists have different talents. Okay, But but but 1:22:34.720 --> 1:22:37.000 when you do that, when you do that and you 1:22:37.080 --> 1:22:39.919 have there rapping and you you're portraying this gangs, motherfucker, 1:22:40.360 --> 1:22:43.040 you gotta think people are looking at that, kids are 1:22:43.120 --> 1:22:46.160 looking at that, and they believe in this ship, so 1:22:46.280 --> 1:22:50.040 they started acting that way. Don't portray nothing that you're 1:22:50.080 --> 1:22:51.960 not because at the end of the day, your ass 1:22:52.040 --> 1:22:54.840 gonna be in the real world and you're gonna get 1:22:54.840 --> 1:23:01.120 your songs. You know, most of America thought or thinks 1:23:01.160 --> 1:23:03.879 that Ice Cube was the biggest gangster in Los Angeles 1:23:03.880 --> 1:23:05.720 to the music. I don't think he gang bang a 1:23:05.800 --> 1:23:09.800 day in his life. I heard Cast say, you ain't 1:23:09.840 --> 1:23:13.519 from You ain't from neighborhood sixties. You never was. I 1:23:13.560 --> 1:23:17.439 heard Cast say that about ice Q. She grew up 1:23:17.439 --> 1:23:20.720 in one eleven. Now, when I heard you and you 1:23:20.800 --> 1:23:25.439 told him you ain't from sixties from neighborhood. Probably don't 1:23:25.439 --> 1:23:28.439 want to be I'm just saying, I guess ice iced 1:23:28.479 --> 1:23:34.360 t was closed, That's what. I don't know where I 1:23:34.600 --> 1:23:38.639 c Yeah, no, I don't know if he's from one eleven, 1:23:38.680 --> 1:23:42.760 but he historically you could say he's the biggest most 1:23:42.760 --> 1:23:46.160 successful gangster rapper, one of the most successful for someone 1:23:46.200 --> 1:23:49.960 that never gang bang. Okay, you made money once again, 1:23:50.120 --> 1:23:56.479 these guys made money off of being Would you say 1:23:56.479 --> 1:23:58.840 Ice Cube glorified gangs or was he just trying to 1:23:58.840 --> 1:24:02.680 tell us a story and and educate us? Once they 1:24:02.720 --> 1:24:06.439 realized game banging, ship sale, Compton sales, and then and 1:24:06.439 --> 1:24:08.920 and and they start making money off of it. Why not? 1:24:10.120 --> 1:24:11.960 Why not do it? But they were doing it when 1:24:11.960 --> 1:24:15.519 it wasn't popular. They started off THEYD be popular. Yeah, 1:24:15.520 --> 1:24:16.920 but they didn't know that it was gonna make them 1:24:16.960 --> 1:24:21.640 millions of dollars. You think easy, We're about to make 1:24:22.720 --> 1:24:26.040 and start saying fun the police and then ship started happening. 1:24:27.479 --> 1:24:30.960 They had a vision. I think they became more successful 1:24:30.960 --> 1:24:36.000 than they ever envisioned. I probably show but come on, 1:24:36.920 --> 1:24:38.639 we ain't. And they were doing something that no one 1:24:38.640 --> 1:24:41.240 else had had been doing. Come on, we ain't thugs. 1:24:42.600 --> 1:24:46.960 We ain't game bangers. We're not game bangers. We can't 1:24:47.000 --> 1:24:49.560 get in here and say, yeah, I culled, this is 1:24:49.600 --> 1:24:55.120 a game banger. I killed for my hood, I robbed 1:24:55.160 --> 1:24:58.639 for my hood. I beat nicks up from my hood. 1:24:58.880 --> 1:25:02.200 These dudes at out there saying that they did that ship. 1:25:03.240 --> 1:25:05.760 They did that ship. If you, if you, and then 1:25:05.800 --> 1:25:08.479 I don't know why they ain't. Oh man, this is 1:25:08.560 --> 1:25:12.240 this is crazy. Those are not game bankers. Man, those 1:25:12.280 --> 1:25:15.040 are guys. Just just call it studio games. But when 1:25:15.040 --> 1:25:18.520 you think about it, there's not one successful what successful 1:25:18.680 --> 1:25:22.560 rapper was a real gang member. Yeah it's not. I 1:25:22.640 --> 1:25:25.000 don't think you can name. Then somebody from the left 1:25:25.040 --> 1:25:28.240 boll go to jail for killing somebody or something. I 1:25:28.280 --> 1:25:31.400 don't know. Most of the most of your commercially successful 1:25:31.479 --> 1:25:35.040 rappers were never in a gang or gang bang. I mean, 1:25:35.080 --> 1:25:36.800 Trade d is probably one of the realist one, but 1:25:36.840 --> 1:25:40.760 he was not nowhere nearly successful Snoop and ice Cube, 1:25:40.960 --> 1:25:44.439 just like he was saying will Smith, So it works. 1:25:44.840 --> 1:25:49.040 Not being a game banker, his rap works. So why 1:25:49.040 --> 1:25:52.840 don't them dudes opposed to sitting out here for trying 1:25:52.840 --> 1:25:57.000 to goddamn c before Hendrick Lamar and j Cole. Yeah, 1:25:57.000 --> 1:25:59.439 Steph playing the c before the game and ship you know, 1:25:59.600 --> 1:26:02.000 motherfucker you can put on a wig, Jerry curl glasses, 1:26:02.040 --> 1:26:04.320 the cups of hats and going out there and stoke. 1:26:04.560 --> 1:26:07.920 I think the more real gangster you are, the harder 1:26:07.960 --> 1:26:10.200 it is gonna be for you to be successful as 1:26:10.240 --> 1:26:13.679 a rapper, because look at the ones that have made 1:26:14.160 --> 1:26:18.439 have achieved commercial success. No, the reason why they don't 1:26:18.439 --> 1:26:21.800 make it is because they overdo it. It just took 1:26:21.840 --> 1:26:23.960 Sugar a little more time to fall off, because I 1:26:23.960 --> 1:26:26.519 got your point. Like ce Bowl, who I think is 1:26:26.600 --> 1:26:29.519 real maybe realm from up there and he wrapped the 1:26:29.560 --> 1:26:38.040 realist dependent level. But I I think you have to 1:26:38.080 --> 1:26:40.479 be somebody else who we thought was tight and he's 1:26:40.520 --> 1:26:44.080 running for city council now, so he showed that he's not. Yeah, 1:26:44.120 --> 1:26:46.400 so I get your point. I don't know, I get 1:26:46.400 --> 1:26:49.439 both of your point right, all right, guys. I want 1:26:49.439 --> 1:26:52.960 to thank the two people who submitted those questions. Uh, 1:26:53.200 --> 1:26:56.200 that would be Season Mug and Jordan's And I want 1:26:56.200 --> 1:26:58.519 to thank everyone for listening to another edition of The 1:26:58.560 --> 1:27:03.040 Gangster Chronicles. Please make sure you rate and review if 1:27:03.080 --> 1:27:07.280 you're listening on iTunes, and thanks for joining us again, 1:27:08.000 --> 1:27:13.040 pace Out. This has been a digital soapbuts network production.