Speaker 1: You're tuned into The Gangster Chronicles. Well, James McDonald, REXI,
Speaker 1: Rei Jr. And Allen Tomanso on the Digital soap Uch
Speaker 1: Network material witness on an aggregated battery, I was a
Speaker 1: hang gun and um, they believe this might be in
Speaker 1: retaliation to our testimony. Okay, welcome to another episode of
Speaker 1: The Gangster Chronicles. My name is Alex Alonso. You meet
Speaker 1: may be aware of my platform, Street TV, previously known
Speaker 1: as Street Gangs, and I'm here with and James, and
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Speaker 1: you enjoyed about our show so far. But before I
Speaker 1: start with our fact checks from last episode, James, you
Speaker 1: got a few words, Yeah, I got a few words.
Speaker 1: I wanna. I want to shout out to a lot
Speaker 1: of people that supporting us. I said at the beginning
Speaker 1: of this whole or a deal that I ain't gonna
Speaker 1: forget nobody, and I appreciate everybody. First, I want to
Speaker 1: start off. I want to say, man, thank you Jesus,
Speaker 1: my grandson. We went to court yesterday. He's out of
Speaker 1: the system. He's with his granddaddy. We don't have to
Speaker 1: go no courts, no lawyers, no nothing. My grand baby
Speaker 1: is is free. We straight and we can move on
Speaker 1: with our life. Thank you, Thank you. And these people
Speaker 1: I want to mention, you know a lot of them
Speaker 1: hitting me on message, jer and and you know, sending
Speaker 1: me a lot of good ship and I appreciate it. Uh,
Speaker 1: Mike Craikberg, Craig Big, uh Cohatten, Ed Potts, Curtis Snow,
Speaker 1: Walter Adams, Nick Noonan, Greg Kadine, Vincent Moss, Cornelius Woods,
Speaker 1: Sam Right, Brandon Lee, Robert Hatcher, My Dog, My Club brothers, Uh,
Speaker 1: Joe Alvarren, Joe Alvarez, and my boy Reggie sitting next
Speaker 1: to me, and Tony, Tony Wright, Brian Calvin, uh D, Will,
Speaker 1: Jacob Martinez and the Mogul Giant. I appreciate you people.
Speaker 1: It's a whole lot, but um, I can't name more
Speaker 1: than one. When one show gains, that will be the
Speaker 1: whole show. But I appreciate all your brothers for the
Speaker 1: the comments. Just get our show started, alright, cool, cool, Hey,
Speaker 1: let me just say something right quick. I need y'all
Speaker 1: tune in the Bomb First tomorrow because all of you
Speaker 1: people out there to keep acting about this cast thing.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go ahead and release the police report and
Speaker 1: show you an expose his brother how much of a
Speaker 1: big Larry is. So I got a cop of the
Speaker 1: police reporter to b off of you tomorrow on tomorrow
Speaker 1: morning on Bomb First and you can view it and
Speaker 1: and um let's see what really really really happened. That's
Speaker 1: the police report of what the incident with the big
Speaker 1: Cash trying to thank you want to take credit for
Speaker 1: with the damon Tomas in the Big Poppy and all
Speaker 1: of that. Okay, And how do they find that channel?
Speaker 1: Reggie Bomb First YouTube channel that's b NB one st
Speaker 1: correct Bomb first YouTube channel posted up tomorrow and maybe
Speaker 1: we'll talk about that on another episode. We kind of
Speaker 1: went into that thoroughly a couple of episodes ago, So
Speaker 1: if you guys haven't heard that episode, uh, I believe
Speaker 1: that was the episode called the g Code, which is
Speaker 1: a two part episode, part one and two. And last
Speaker 1: week I said we were gonna talk about more about
Speaker 1: the Central Park five, but we kind of already went
Speaker 1: into into detail with that last week much. I don't
Speaker 1: know if there's anything else we can say on that. Um,
Speaker 1: if you guys haven't heard that episode, go check that
Speaker 1: one out. That's called When They See Us And that's
Speaker 1: also a two part episode from last week, part one
Speaker 1: and two. That would have been episode um, episode ten. Now,
Speaker 1: I did learn a lot from actually watching it and
Speaker 1: going through those interviews, though, but please y'all try to
Speaker 1: listen to the the the people in themselves, the documentary
Speaker 1: parts or the things on YouTube, and not just the
Speaker 1: movie along uh that's on Netflix, because there's a lot
Speaker 1: of holes getting mixed. Yeah, I mean, it is Hollywood
Speaker 1: and it's not always exactly accurate. But um, I think
Speaker 1: Eva Devorne here name, I think I think she captured
Speaker 1: the stortion, and I've seen a few other big Robert
Speaker 1: de Niro was an ettecutive producer on that. Alright, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was actually married to a black chick name took. Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, let me just go over a few fact
Speaker 1: checked from last week's episode, episode number ten. Um Omar
Speaker 1: Bradley was convicted in July to two thousand seventeen and
Speaker 1: was sentenced to three years probation. We talked a little
Speaker 1: bit about him last week. His first conviction was in
Speaker 1: two thousand four and they overturned that in two thousand
Speaker 1: twelve and then decided to re triumph and he was
Speaker 1: found guilty in two thousand seventeen. He's not serving any time.
Speaker 1: He got three years probation, and they followed appeal on
Speaker 1: that conviction, and that was what I was referring to,
Speaker 1: had just got uphill. Yeah, that his conviction was just
Speaker 1: upheld this year two thousand nineteen, and um he was
Speaker 1: actually found guilty of two felonies. One was misappropriation of
Speaker 1: public funds by a public officer and the second charge
Speaker 1: was misuse of public funds by a public officer for
Speaker 1: personal gain, and he was convicted of spending a total
Speaker 1: a grand total of six thousand, five hundred dollars over
Speaker 1: the course of eight years. That comes out to, um
Speaker 1: what does that come out to per year if you
Speaker 1: average that out. But but like I said, the city
Speaker 1: manager took most of the fall because they were doing
Speaker 1: something with uh doing because they were they had so
Speaker 1: many transactions where they did it for four thousand nine
Speaker 1: uh that that was crazy. Hey, but let me just
Speaker 1: say this about the city, um Man, they just had
Speaker 1: the election last week, and do you know the people
Speaker 1: that want to councils. It's a hundred thousand people in
Speaker 1: that city. I guess how many people how many votes
Speaker 1: to turnout? The Okay, the turnouts are the votes to
Speaker 1: us in the city of Confdence for to a two
Speaker 1: man race. And I've been gender you know, because they
Speaker 1: were females involved. But for a two person race, let
Speaker 1: me say it that way. Votes is what one city
Speaker 1: council in that city city of Kunta. It's crazy. Jane Jane,
Speaker 1: the lady that's you're seen on YouTube the ones have
Speaker 1: been following it. That's related to old more she lost,
Speaker 1: which is um it's a good, bad thing. She was
Speaker 1: starting to be a little bit too cocky because she
Speaker 1: you know, was the one that's on YouTube that are
Speaker 1: that y'all saw on Facebook and stuff that was bragging
Speaker 1: about how she controlled the councils because she has three votes. Well,
Speaker 1: so you won't have no more of that. And um,
Speaker 1: let's see what Asia Brown do. We're gonna try to
Speaker 1: get Cheeko on the show next week or in the
Speaker 1: upcoming the weeks. Who's which with Asia that I've been
Speaker 1: doing a lot of stuff and that's the gentleman that
Speaker 1: you you spoke on James that uh yeah, he was
Speaker 1: a freeway Rick Cross co defendant back in the day
Speaker 1: and so I've been in communication with him and he's
Speaker 1: been trying to do a lot of positive things to
Speaker 1: get back to the city of Campta. Definitely, he's been
Speaker 1: working on on this anti gang and in adventure prevention
Speaker 1: for years. He used to work for a place called
Speaker 1: a place called Home. That's what brought my attention the
Speaker 1: five dollars down. Yeah, you know it's some more people.
Speaker 1: You know, you talked to Jane and their people, they'll
Speaker 1: tell you that that he's lying on that and that's
Speaker 1: not well, you know, something that had happened or so
Speaker 1: we were very both sides in I'll try to get
Speaker 1: a uh Bishop Guillory and Chico to come here and
Speaker 1: talk conversation with Chico. Last week I said Ray Nagan
Speaker 1: was sentenced to twelve years. He was actually sentenced to
Speaker 1: ten years, and his sentence started believe in two thousand
Speaker 1: and eighteen. He was convicted of filing a false income
Speaker 1: tax return and bribery which was fifty dollars. He was
Speaker 1: trying to get some people to work for his son's
Speaker 1: granted company, and I guess technically that's illegal when you're
Speaker 1: holding a public office, and he forgot he wasn't CEO
Speaker 1: of a private industry anymore. He was a mayor and
Speaker 1: also Home Depot was involved in that scam to get
Speaker 1: this granite contract to his sons, but home Depot was
Speaker 1: never charged. His sons were never charged, only Ray Nagan,
Speaker 1: and he started a ten year sentence and in the
Speaker 1: FED you gotta do so he's gonna do eight and
Speaker 1: a half years of that ten year sentence. UM really interesting.
Speaker 1: Eric Parrott and we talked about in briefly last week.
Speaker 1: He has an interesting resume. Graduated from cal State University
Speaker 1: of Domingus Hills in eight two, Long Beach, Well Okay.
Speaker 1: Then he um did twelve years as Compton p D.
Speaker 1: Then he was putting himself through school while he was
Speaker 1: a p D. And then he got hired in to
Speaker 1: be the Deputy d A for Los Angeles County and
Speaker 1: then he became mayor in two thousand one. And he's
Speaker 1: the only then mayor elected three times. And he lost
Speaker 1: to Asia Brown in two thousand thirteen. So that's his
Speaker 1: very interesting resume. Of Eric Parrittin still around. What's he doing? Still?
Speaker 1: Good friend of mine? Uh Man, Why do you treat
Speaker 1: me like that? They say he's the longest um mayor
Speaker 1: in Compton history, which would be so there's no term
Speaker 1: limits in Compton. You can just keep running and keep
Speaker 1: so when he lost to Asia Brown, that would have
Speaker 1: been his fourth term if he would have won three years.
Speaker 1: Now you can do as many as you like, you said.
Speaker 1: I don't think they have termed them now, but at
Speaker 1: the time they didn't remember Mayor Tucker. Walter Tucker was
Speaker 1: there for a while, but I think he died while
Speaker 1: he was in office, which was not the son Tucker Jr.
Speaker 1: Got indicted while the mayor. No, actually he became a congressman.
Speaker 1: But they in that track that trash company Merkell boy,
Speaker 1: get you in trouble boy, that's what they all got
Speaker 1: indicted behind. Yeah and else. People were planning it to
Speaker 1: not recently, but we did. Your brother, Butchery went with
Speaker 1: me to uh give him the check at this at
Speaker 1: this my house for when we put him in office.
Speaker 1: But was a cop from eighty tow to ninety four,
Speaker 1: so he's seen all the drama on the streets of Compton.
Speaker 1: He's seen a lot of ship. My father's training because
Speaker 1: he was there, like I said, worked in the city.
Speaker 1: His brother worked in the city for a while. He's
Speaker 1: a Compton raised. I mean they've been on Central. He's
Speaker 1: a Nutty blocker. He grew up in Nutty Block right
Speaker 1: on Central, right across from the graveyard the cemetery, so Central,
Speaker 1: and I forget the street across, but just just the
Speaker 1: south of Alandro. Full of ship. All right. Last week
Speaker 1: we were talking about all the corrupt You mentioned the
Speaker 1: corrupt mayors of Chicago, and I said Rod, Rod Blogoyevic
Speaker 1: was one of them. But Rod Blagoyevich was actually a governor.
Speaker 1: Governor and in fact, four of the last seven governors
Speaker 1: of Illinois were sent to prison rob rob Bogoyevich, George
Speaker 1: Ryan sentence, the six point five what the deal for
Speaker 1: the Obama the Obama Dan Walker was sentenced to seven
Speaker 1: years and Otto Kerner back in the seventies were sentenced
Speaker 1: to three years. But yeah, Rodd Blogoevic tried to sell
Speaker 1: Barack Obama Senate seat after he became president. So you
Speaker 1: got this vacant Senate se and you know there's only
Speaker 1: there's two senators per state. Yeah, obviously the show with
Speaker 1: uh Kelsey Grammer The Boss, they try to show you
Speaker 1: how corrup Chicago was. If you don't get chance watched
Speaker 1: up The Boss. Can you believe that the four of
Speaker 1: their last seven governors were sent to prison? Then what
Speaker 1: did that chell you that they believe in corruption in Chicago.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of Illinois, a lot of the corrupt politicians.
Speaker 1: If you look at the history of Chicago, Illinois would
Speaker 1: never charge or indicted. So we're talking about more of
Speaker 1: a modern period here where they're starting to get indicted.
Speaker 1: Was about what was the big the one that back
Speaker 1: in the day that we used to always just I'll
Speaker 1: write corrupt George I forget his name. But the one
Speaker 1: thing I like about Chicago, one of those governors on
Speaker 1: the way out. You remember when he partnered everybody on
Speaker 1: thatfth row, one of them partnering let everybody going there,
Speaker 1: all right. And also when we were talking about the
Speaker 1: Central so you ain't gonna die, commuter, when we're talking
Speaker 1: about the Central Park. Five. Last week, I brought up
Speaker 1: the Guantanamobey detainees and looked it up. The US government
Speaker 1: had detained seven hundred and seventy five Muslims in Guantanamo Bay.
Speaker 1: Today there's forty one still in custody. They released over
Speaker 1: seven hundred of them and they only charged seven. So
Speaker 1: because most of the dudes didn't do anything like I
Speaker 1: was trying to say last week that we're in Guantanamo Bay.
Speaker 1: But there's forty one currently sitting in Guantanamo Bay right
Speaker 1: now of the original seven hundred and seventy five. And um,
Speaker 1: it took it took a Freedom of Information Act for
Speaker 1: the government to even release the list of those guys
Speaker 1: in Guantanamo Bay. But yes, seven of seven hundred of
Speaker 1: them have been released. In fact, Barack Obama released five
Speaker 1: or six of them, um and traded. It was a trade.
Speaker 1: He released some of them and then they got back.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was a soldier or someone
Speaker 1: that was an American kidnapped, but uh, they end up
Speaker 1: just using them as little tools and little pawns for negotiations.
Speaker 1: Some of them are CIA operator operatives now and then
Speaker 1: sometimes some of them gave up information on things that
Speaker 1: was going on. Hey, where was that war? When you're
Speaker 1: at war? Y'all watched Hogan's Hogans here ros, I'll see
Speaker 1: how they hold him? Where was that warm man? They remember? Zero?
Speaker 1: When they had all the all of them held in prison.
Speaker 1: I don't yell remember. I didn't really watch it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was I was young. Though they was able to
Speaker 1: come and go when they wanted to. They had little escape. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And the last fact check that I have is, um,
Speaker 1: we talked about waterboarding briefly. Uh. Bush actually banned water boarding.
Speaker 1: George Bush President UM, well not, he's not really junior.
Speaker 1: He's George Herbert Walker Bush. He banned water boarder in
Speaker 1: two thousand and six, but only for the military. He
Speaker 1: said the c i A can still use it. But
Speaker 1: then in two thousand and fourteen, UH Senate Select Committee
Speaker 1: on Intelligence issue to five page reports saying that they
Speaker 1: weren't gonna do waterboarding anymore, and that it didn't yield
Speaker 1: any um information on terrorism. Sure they wouldn't get none
Speaker 1: out of it. So I guess it's actually there's mixed
Speaker 1: reviews on whether or not waterboarding was ever effective effect.
Speaker 1: Some CIA agents will still say, hey, it helped me out,
Speaker 1: but others will say it took us on a wild
Speaker 1: goose chase. So it's it's inconclusive. I would say whether
Speaker 1: or not what they call enhanced interrogation techniques are even effective.
Speaker 1: The government called it chatter. I call it CI CIA informants,
Speaker 1: but they say, we got chatter. No, you got an
Speaker 1: informant they called yours. Yeah, oh we got chatter. Chatter
Speaker 1: told us this is about to happen. Now you had
Speaker 1: an informant called you this is about to happen. Well,
Speaker 1: in this report, it said the CIA's use of enhanced
Speaker 1: interrogation techniques was not effective for acquiring intelligence or gaining
Speaker 1: cooperation from the detainees. All right, so let's move on
Speaker 1: to our first effect. That glad Uh, my boy, my boy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's funny. But anyway, what's that nickname um sa si
Speaker 1: ke d D called me? Is that right? Yeah? Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: he called me. He's willing to come up on the show.
Speaker 1: I gotta see see how my people react to that.
Speaker 1: But anyone I need to bring Keife on Street TV.
Speaker 1: Told him. I told him that we're gonna set it up.
Speaker 1: He knows you are. He said, next week we're gonna talk.
Speaker 1: He's coming to town. So we're gonna talk, all right,
Speaker 1: So we're gonna let you do it, and you can
Speaker 1: do the interview because my people don't like him. But
Speaker 1: he was disappointed that I put out that Think was
Speaker 1: over him in terms of being a trafficker. Yeah, ain't
Speaker 1: that crazy? Yeah? Okay, So this is an interview that
Speaker 1: you did for Flag where he asked you, and he's
Speaker 1: always asking these to me ridiculous questions. But who was
Speaker 1: the biggest drug dealer in in Compton at the time.
Speaker 1: You said Fink was about He said, Think work for him.
Speaker 1: So he wanted me to clear that up. And so
Speaker 1: I'm clearing that up. Alright, So Fink actually worked for KPD.
Speaker 1: Fink had money though, Man, if he was working for him,
Speaker 1: I mean he had to really happen. Maybe Fink was
Speaker 1: working for him, but then also working for other people
Speaker 1: that made his money. More than with paper. Think was
Speaker 1: doing this thing, and he kept, he kept and he
Speaker 1: kept think he was only crimp over there. They had
Speaker 1: a blood sidekick. Where's think at Now he's still on
Speaker 1: the street, He's still around. I bet he's got a
Speaker 1: hell of a story. He wouldn't one of those loudcats,
Speaker 1: think win one of those. Now. He's real quiet, Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: he was. He was. He was cool right down to day.
Speaker 1: Still yeah cool cool. How often you guys see the
Speaker 1: same And I don't know how long, but I know
Speaker 1: Zeke still deal with him. Zeke, Zeke is still good.
Speaker 1: Zeke telled me he had an heart attack. Zeke told
Speaker 1: me he out there doing railroad. Yeah, on the valley.
Speaker 1: Z he working for the rail road. He's messing up
Speaker 1: no more. You know. I just watched this interview that
Speaker 1: Freeway Ricky Ross gave the other day. He's done a
Speaker 1: He's done a bunch of interviews. But one thing that
Speaker 1: you never really hear about are the guys that kind
Speaker 1: of laid the foundation for Freeway, Ricky Ross and and
Speaker 1: these guys never get mentioned. And I'm talking about like
Speaker 1: Whitey Enterprises, the drug traffickers. He talked about the Island
Speaker 1: and all of them. Well, you got whitey enterprises, you
Speaker 1: got um who else you got? You have a third world?
Speaker 1: Out of the four trays you're talking about the guys
Speaker 1: up under the ones that he was serving, well, some
Speaker 1: of these guys weren't even serving cocaine. They were doing
Speaker 1: they were serving water. They were doing that. Some of
Speaker 1: these guys like Ray Ray from Pasadena, Ray Browning, You
Speaker 1: don't really hear about these guys like that's why he
Speaker 1: didn't really tell that's his that's why he gets this
Speaker 1: his street car. They did. He he'd be like I
Speaker 1: told of people above me that the Colombians that, uh
Speaker 1: the what's the Salvadorians not a Salvadorians nag? And the
Speaker 1: United States government. Yeah, but through a Ricky Ross eighty six,
Speaker 1: we had we had drug dealers in l a and
Speaker 1: eight seventy nine, two eighty three before Ricky Ross. But
Speaker 1: was it Rock, It was Potter, and PC was PCP
Speaker 1: shern water. But these dudes was pulling up in rolls.
Speaker 1: And this for you white guys to know that um
Speaker 1: serm is about the only drug of trade that the
Speaker 1: blacks control. They knew the mix, they knew the formula
Speaker 1: for the PCP and the SWAT. Yeah, and guess what,
Speaker 1: that's automatically a license hate that how they do us,
Speaker 1: that's automatically. Wasn't your boy from New York coming to
Speaker 1: l A and taking it to New York the one
Speaker 1: that got into it with all of them? You know
Speaker 1: you're talking about zip and yeah, they said, but those
Speaker 1: they my boys. I'll be kidding. Yeah, that's why I said,
Speaker 1: yo boy, Because I don't know how popular Sherm and
Speaker 1: Water got in New York, but if it did, it
Speaker 1: was through von Zi. Yeah. Know, when I was a
Speaker 1: kid in New York, the drug of choice was heroin. Heroin.
Speaker 1: Everybody's doing heroin and all the blacks are doing here,
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the needles in the arm heroin. But
Speaker 1: they was doing though. And we're talking about early seven
Speaker 1: he got put in. You'll be talking. I keep telling
Speaker 1: you, you you gotta put date the seven seventies. I don't
Speaker 1: recall Sherman the seventies and New Yeah, like you said,
Speaker 1: it was seventies seven and seventy eight, seventy nine when
Speaker 1: the Sharon was hot. I mean when it was on
Speaker 1: the streets because cocaine they really hit our community. I
Speaker 1: don't remember to eighty two they were smoking Sherman before
Speaker 1: they started with the shooting ship. There's only one side
Speaker 1: with shooting was doing like the seven days and then
Speaker 1: yeah seven PCP was before and motherfucker's putting the PCP
Speaker 1: down and started doing doing the So I got a
Speaker 1: ton the way I got the Heroin for dog Fools
Speaker 1: from and then old school. Yeah, so the old school
Speaker 1: they always was into that. That the needle. But our
Speaker 1: guy like like yo yo, yeah, most of the most
Speaker 1: of the homies, that's what they were hooked on. So
Speaker 1: many mothers on she get used to be so bad
Speaker 1: and you knew it as a cop when a bad
Speaker 1: batch was out, everybody was running up down the street streaking.
Speaker 1: But right pitch uh Stanley, Yeah, okay, but I love
Speaker 1: that part because I don't want to put nobody out there.
Speaker 1: One in the loud park up under the headquarters and
Speaker 1: some chick came over there and said the wrong ship
Speaker 1: and she was attacked and gotta gotta rest remove removing
Speaker 1: like in the park like yeah that Shermon's Sherton was
Speaker 1: back then, and you were strong as ox strong man.
Speaker 1: I don't remember. We always got a cop hurt when
Speaker 1: you had to find. That's when they came out with
Speaker 1: the nets. They stopped telling them that y'all just circle
Speaker 1: them and throw the net on him and tie them
Speaker 1: up like down there a dog. You can just you know,
Speaker 1: when somebody was shutting up because he running down the
Speaker 1: street and you know it was a bad backstand. But
Speaker 1: when they did that. But you know now the Shermans
Speaker 1: still out there the way, Daddy's still out there. But
Speaker 1: guess who's on him now? Everyone around the Mexican Yeah,
Speaker 1: but they like that met that fetamine too. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: you know some blacks are starting that too. Remember no
Speaker 1: blacks was doing man that it's so bad that you said,
Speaker 1: like on the motorcycle set. A lot of them are
Speaker 1: using it. A lot of them doing that, blowing the
Speaker 1: methic ship and it's it's a new crap. It's sucking
Speaker 1: everything up. It's cheaper. It's cheaper. So if you can
Speaker 1: get it cheaper than going to buy fody and and
Speaker 1: get everybody in the house loaded, you can go by
Speaker 1: a ganging that ship and just be fucked up. But
Speaker 1: it's it's taking its toll on you. They don't do
Speaker 1: like cocaine like you gotta smoke that ship. For years,
Speaker 1: we look at cocaine so bad as a black race
Speaker 1: because we don't see so many of our people messed
Speaker 1: up behind that ship. But cocaine is actually a natural
Speaker 1: drug where methand fetomin is all chemicals, all chemicals, and
Speaker 1: it shows. It's not to say that boys and girls
Speaker 1: go out there and do some cocaine or hair that's
Speaker 1: rugs ship. But see, you know that's unfortunately, that's why
Speaker 1: people have to need that hot power for weed in
Speaker 1: them because most of our guys, their mamma's was on
Speaker 1: that ship in the eighties and it was in the system. Well,
Speaker 1: that's why most of the dudes need that weed and
Speaker 1: them they're still trying to get that that high because
Speaker 1: they when they were babies and ship and their mama's
Speaker 1: system they were getting it. It just seems there's something
Speaker 1: more dangerous about the manufactured chemical drugs like spice, math
Speaker 1: as opposed to your natural hardcore drugs cocaine, heroin. Not
Speaker 1: to say that any of this stuff is good, but
Speaker 1: that drugs, man, it just seems like it just takes
Speaker 1: people to a whole another level physically. Mentally. I didn't
Speaker 1: see them all. I don't see them all that's good.
Speaker 1: That that's the one good thing about marijuana. I think,
Speaker 1: let's keeping because you hear very few kids getting hooked
Speaker 1: on the cocaine, the rock cocaine and the myth and
Speaker 1: all of that. Well, it's very few out there using
Speaker 1: marijuana and using another drug. And and it's that and
Speaker 1: it goes with that cahol, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So somebody just catch behind the motherfucker and you don't
Speaker 1: even you can't even talk to nobody, because I mean,
Speaker 1: I ain't never smoked weed in my life, so I know.
Speaker 1: I mean, well, the first time I tried it, I
Speaker 1: flipped the funk out. I talked about everybody that was
Speaker 1: on the on the bleachers and wind up getting into
Speaker 1: a fight. My jaws swoll up, and I didn't like
Speaker 1: the feeling change that you did that all the time,
Speaker 1: you know what. I voted thish ocasions. But I'm just
Speaker 1: telling him my only experience that marijuana that was at
Speaker 1: one time, and I didn't like the feeling. And it
Speaker 1: was over, you know what I'm saying, over and done with.
Speaker 1: I didn't take polutar reports with James, I shot home.
Speaker 1: He's I mean, James, yea y'all. Just y'all know that
Speaker 1: y'all know the nice James. Well, this this is the
Speaker 1: James that's totally different. You know what I'm saying. That's older.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, I'm not looking at game
Speaker 1: banging and none of that other ship ouncing ouncing situation
Speaker 1: gave me a whole differ perspective. She'll taught me a lot,
Speaker 1: whether people believe it or not, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: One conversation I had with my Mom's taught me a lot.
Speaker 1: She said, none of the motherfucker's is your friends. I
Speaker 1: took the hood, my mama, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, she was right.
Speaker 1: But it took my brother to look to get killed
Speaker 1: for me to really like see that ship. Now, I'm like,
Speaker 1: damn all of this ship. I put my mom's through
Speaker 1: and look what the hood did, Look what Sug did.
Speaker 1: Everybody iron trust. So I'm giving in. I'm giving myself
Speaker 1: one hunt and I'm getting back thirty five. I'm getting
Speaker 1: back this shicty ass motherfucker. You can't do me like
Speaker 1: that no more. I'm on some if the next motherfucking
Speaker 1: this real ship and it's like cross me like that
Speaker 1: and I give my all two and I had to
Speaker 1: kill him. Yeah. I'm just saying I've just got a
Speaker 1: poor uh since the judgment when it comes to people,
Speaker 1: and I'm thinking that I can just really read people.
Speaker 1: And you say, man, this guy is cool. This got
Speaker 1: one honey. Now let me see how it worked. All right, Well,
Speaker 1: let's get into our first question. Let's go of the episode. Um,
Speaker 1: first interesting question here. This is this question is pppost
Speaker 1: for all of us, whether it's in law enforcement, for Reggie,
Speaker 1: whether it's me for interviewing, or for you James, just
Speaker 1: in the streets. But who are some of the most
Speaker 1: reputable street gang guys, street guys that you ran ran
Speaker 1: across over your careers? Well me growing up, like I said,
Speaker 1: I know all the the uh Robert and Craig, the
Speaker 1: Munson's I'm reading across. Oh man, big Pokey, all those lows,
Speaker 1: some boys, the older ones. Um Man, I I ran
Speaker 1: it to some. I know a lot of reportable guys.
Speaker 1: I know. I know who a lot of them. Um,
Speaker 1: it's just just knowing that we just ran into I'm
Speaker 1: ran into it quite a few. I know, Reggie, you
Speaker 1: ran into a whole lot on the on the street here.
Speaker 1: I can name the names, and you know I call names.
Speaker 1: I don't mind calling names. It's gonna depend and maybe
Speaker 1: the female boy James on one of them, um blow
Speaker 1: as you don't say tray Vine was one of your
Speaker 1: reportables and were good Traylon Lane. Why do y'all say
Speaker 1: that there's so many trade Vons out there? That's what
Speaker 1: I wanted to be there so they can say, Now,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take that back. Trayvond ain't said nothing and
Speaker 1: uh two weeks about me, so I'm cool on him. Well,
Speaker 1: I've never met Trayvon. In fact, I love to interview
Speaker 1: tray Von everybody, but a thinking about Go ahead, Reggie,
Speaker 1: who are some of the guys that you've crossed path
Speaker 1: stay on the red and blue side, And I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna mainly speak on confident because I don't know too
Speaker 1: many of the l A G l A guys only
Speaker 1: by reputation, but that I ran into personally. M George
Speaker 1: Wims was one. I mean, that's the one. I said. Well,
Speaker 1: maybe uh offend from from looters. Um James would be
Speaker 1: one from the mall in his era. Um Stanley Pitts
Speaker 1: uh doing his song yea from em Lane. I will
Speaker 1: go with with rock chisehlm um uh from Um from Santana.
Speaker 1: I would go a gangster or one of the twins
Speaker 1: for real. Uh Um, you wouldn't put Turtle on the
Speaker 1: Turtle was mainly a drug dealer. He was with thee
Speaker 1: TO but he was with but he was mainly known
Speaker 1: for making it happen, no making the sack. Let me say,
Speaker 1: I know, dude, he's a shooter. He's with it. He
Speaker 1: ain't gotta shoot you. I give credit with credit is
Speaker 1: due man, and and to leave him out, you might
Speaker 1: as well leave out gangster. But that's your's Marcel Marcetills
Speaker 1: from Nantana. Marcellus Um, you know he had this time.
Speaker 1: I remember they'm running forty eight under him and gangster
Speaker 1: running forty eight hunder for the locals. Um which was
Speaker 1: a jail module in l A County jail. Um big
Speaker 1: Duck from Fruit Town, him and his brother Um Dave
Speaker 1: Um trying to go by by street gangs is where
Speaker 1: I'm trying to go. I can't think of anyone off
Speaker 1: hand from Kelly Park right now. Uh from Santana block
Speaker 1: was younger Tony Lane Tony Lane played a big factor
Speaker 1: in all kind of ways in the hood. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: won't give him for getting in the car. I can go,
Speaker 1: so you go, and I can go to Momo, just
Speaker 1: like a one hundred solid rest in peace money, you know. Yeah, Momo.
Speaker 1: He was one hundred and and and a lot of
Speaker 1: people was hate no Momo because he was pretty much
Speaker 1: the whole package. It was a dude from tree Top
Speaker 1: that I don't remember escaped from the Compton courthouse. That
Speaker 1: was a killer that was from tree Top, her rule,
Speaker 1: big old dude and he escaped from the jail. Um
Speaker 1: from the courthouse when he came. Yeah, he from We
Speaker 1: got all of the fish tank they call it the
Speaker 1: fish tech and guy any limehoods Bryan mcgart Yeah, Um,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's a few livehoods over there. That's that's
Speaker 1: with it. But um, you got a bait and we
Speaker 1: forgot time to go, you know, because you can go
Speaker 1: both ways. Well, you got to put Marcus now on
Speaker 1: the top of the list of Compton. You gotta put
Speaker 1: him on the top. A lot of people don't understand
Speaker 1: Marcus paved the way for a lot of brothers in
Speaker 1: the neighborhood. Um, and he he stopped a lot of
Speaker 1: ship that would a lot of cats wouldn't have been
Speaker 1: here over b as and people thinking now this is
Speaker 1: me speaking from being in the hood and and being
Speaker 1: over there would have been seeing him seeing us get down. Uh,
Speaker 1: stopped a lot of ship from happening. You know, niggas
Speaker 1: do stupid ship, especially when they get drunk. And Marcus
Speaker 1: was more, let me talk to you first. If I
Speaker 1: can't talk to you, didn't fuck it. And and most
Speaker 1: of the times it was fucking and and and ship
Speaker 1: happened where it happened. And you can't blame it because
Speaker 1: you've been for you've been told fool. I don't think
Speaker 1: I'm playing with your type of ship. So you gotta
Speaker 1: put you gotta put Marcus none the chocolate list, you know,
Speaker 1: even just with that, because a lot of motherfucker's got
Speaker 1: power out there. Yea. And in the Mexicans. I want
Speaker 1: to go with uh. And I know he's out of
Speaker 1: the game now. But Lefty from CCGs compl Chicago Games.
Speaker 1: Yeah CCG that's small. Yeah Lefty and his little brother
Speaker 1: no CCGs okay, c VCG. Uh, Yeah, what was up
Speaker 1: with Lefty? He was a writer with him and his brothers,
Speaker 1: Junior and Agar. They stayed right next to to my
Speaker 1: grandmother house on Harrow Street, and man, it was just
Speaker 1: them in that little game and Penguin and all of them.
Speaker 1: And they used to give the else a gundules and
Speaker 1: the and the Seven Olds. Uh, that's on that side.
Speaker 1: I think the Chico seven Olds, they used to get
Speaker 1: them to run for their money. Uh. And there's some
Speaker 1: seven Olds, the guy we talked about on the last
Speaker 1: episode from Seven Olds the Twins from the one five
Speaker 1: five one of the oldest games in Compton, Mexican Games
Speaker 1: on I forget them because I don't you know, I
Speaker 1: don't forgot them. But though t flax they used to
Speaker 1: get here. But t flax was no joke, you know,
Speaker 1: to be honest, A lot of the youngsters for the
Speaker 1: Mexican Games did a lot of the work, and you know,
Speaker 1: they just had um guys that sent back to kind
Speaker 1: of sick amonia. So you know that they pretty much
Speaker 1: had some juice, but they didn't really do do much
Speaker 1: once they got to a certain status. But you could
Speaker 1: never slight the Mexican Games in competent um when it
Speaker 1: comes with Largo the Largos, you know, they were mainly
Speaker 1: in the county area north and so they were mainly
Speaker 1: but the Largos was you know, they were the ship
Speaker 1: the Great Streets of the Mexican side of the Great Streets. Uh.
Speaker 1: They you know people don't know this too. They got
Speaker 1: they called the south Side of the south Side. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean so and any names um for or let's say, well,
Speaker 1: we didn't mention HollyHood part us. Well, but you know
Speaker 1: everybody knows. Uh, everybody knows. It's too many people in
Speaker 1: the name. But I'm gonna do it like this. And
Speaker 1: from but every for every hood in Comton you had,
Speaker 1: you you had a reputable from there. You have to.
Speaker 1: And you had a lot of cats that was with
Speaker 1: the business from HollyHood that just wasn't really like getting down.
Speaker 1: But when it was time to get out, they was
Speaker 1: out there. Uh. Robert Reagans was one. Uh when he
Speaker 1: died eighty two, he was he was. He was a
Speaker 1: real cat. He was a real cat. And uh, it's
Speaker 1: it's it's at a lot of them. But my neighborhood,
Speaker 1: I mean where I used to live. I mean, you
Speaker 1: know neckbone uh uh. Wayne Bradford Loni Blood he was
Speaker 1: was was rest in peace. George Markham rest in peace country.
Speaker 1: Did I say neckbone? He didn't, but we talked about
Speaker 1: neck bone, Boomer. I mean we had we had so
Speaker 1: many uh shady Grady Juju uh c J. We said
Speaker 1: the majority of the hood was was with the business.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Uh, Pierre wrest In PIEC
Speaker 1: played this part, but wasn't so daddy. Yeah, he was
Speaker 1: more Hollywood have run JP. JP was a fool in
Speaker 1: his days. You know, everybody had that. Everybody had their spotlight. James,
Speaker 1: did you ever run across Bartender and O g ot Bartender?
Speaker 1: He got killed in seventy five. He when Bartender got killed,
Speaker 1: that's when everybody was starting to come out. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: know they when Bartender was out, that's when they had
Speaker 1: the headquarters and them dudes was doing their own thing,
Speaker 1: the older guys, and then I don't want to tell
Speaker 1: the story, but when he passed, I knew of his situation,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And uh, it was crazy
Speaker 1: and that that's one of the reasons why I say,
Speaker 1: you know, all of this ship that's happened in the
Speaker 1: day was happening back then in them days. Homies killing
Speaker 1: homies uh, homies setting up homies, homies working with homie girlfriends.
Speaker 1: And the Bartender was like a legend with us growing up.
Speaker 1: Bartender was with them. Yeah he was, yeah him and uh,
Speaker 1: what's the name in the wheelchair? This go Danny. Uh
Speaker 1: that's how Danny got got well, he got he got
Speaker 1: shot with He was always at the gas station on
Speaker 1: that's his name from from Los. I mean, if you'll
Speaker 1: ever been in at that list, which old Dog was
Speaker 1: one honey, and you know he was one of those
Speaker 1: slicks them talking his brothers. I think he's still over there.
Speaker 1: I don't know where. I think. I think because I
Speaker 1: know Danny, Danny. Danny was killed. Yeah, I got killed.
Speaker 1: But Old Dog was when you when you had your
Speaker 1: interview with Cynthia or whatever happening, Old Dog straight up
Speaker 1: solid like he got he got you doing it coming
Speaker 1: from his wheelchair. Yeah taking Yeah, Brad feeling rose. They
Speaker 1: to that down. So there's a story behind Bartender that
Speaker 1: I guess we're not gonna go into. No, No, I
Speaker 1: know this was forty something, I mean, but still people,
Speaker 1: this this is why people talk about me because I'm
Speaker 1: quick to say whatever the funk I need to say,
Speaker 1: and I'm saying this to say, okay, something that would
Speaker 1: be spoke on something it's not. Uh. I learned back
Speaker 1: then not to speak on his situation, the situation that
Speaker 1: he was in involved in. And you know, I don't
Speaker 1: will bring some gang experts. I don't let them talk
Speaker 1: about it. Yeah, Rick Baker, he'd been Rick Baker being
Speaker 1: on there. I thought talking on on on channel that
Speaker 1: I had pulled up Bartender's address and I thought it
Speaker 1: was weird where he lived where it's Santana blockhood. Now
Speaker 1: he didn't live in with Looters Park or what east
Speaker 1: side Parroue. He lived in what became Crip neighborhood. No, well,
Speaker 1: actually it was MS Street. He give the M Street,
Speaker 1: which is like us. Well rock Chism used to live
Speaker 1: from you. But then when they moved over there in alms,
Speaker 1: like George Markham's backyard was Santana, And I know there
Speaker 1: had to be a bunch of Campanella's that was making
Speaker 1: noise back in then the west side. That's county area,
Speaker 1: I mean, that's Campanella's County. Yeah. You know what's interesting,
Speaker 1: A lot of people don't know a lot of people
Speaker 1: a lot of these sets claimed Compton aren't incomprem Yeah
Speaker 1: Dr Dre but you know he was over there, calla
Speaker 1: Campanella's county. Campanella's county. The park. Compton is really l
Speaker 1: a wat Well willow Brook. I think it's county. It's
Speaker 1: great before you go to the pier court of problem. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what's so what's that little land between Compton and the
Speaker 1: project and the project and watch yeah that No, but
Speaker 1: it isn't that called like willow Brook. That's what Martin
Speaker 1: Luther Keene and all of that is. So all the
Speaker 1: hoods and willow Brook claim Compton. The dudes, uh remember
Speaker 1: else god a hundred seven? What's the boys over there?
Speaker 1: Um not under You got Carver Carver? I think is
Speaker 1: um county? Awesome Carver. But they say Compton. Yea, everything
Speaker 1: about Centennial High School all the way till you get
Speaker 1: across the street from Elsa Gondo Compton and they and
Speaker 1: all those guys from back all the way to Rose
Speaker 1: class past, Uh, going into Carson, it's Compton. They claimed
Speaker 1: Compton Lantana which is de run right in the Compon,
Speaker 1: I mean the Corson and then there's ever the six
Speaker 1: hood six Hood. That's what I thought. They just really
Speaker 1: saying sell Weed. They're not in Compton, but I always
Speaker 1: find it interesting about I don't know, this is about
Speaker 1: six or seven different sets, but you know, Carver is
Speaker 1: an old hood. It goes back even though it's not
Speaker 1: in Compton, it uh goes back to about nineteen seventies
Speaker 1: seventy one. They've been around Long Corner Parker. Um. We
Speaker 1: really didn't have too many internactions what they're over there.
Speaker 1: And there's also I was just thinking of all the
Speaker 1: different Compton sets that are not in Compton, but they
Speaker 1: all have some gangsters in them. Oh yeah, definitely, they
Speaker 1: all definitely do. You won't survive if you don't have
Speaker 1: none nowhere, and especially in your hood. If your hood
Speaker 1: ain't got nobody with the business, it won't survive. How
Speaker 1: come Willowbrook don't got a representation like well you got
Speaker 1: to your Spook Towns Occasion block. It was really Occasion
Speaker 1: which is right right behind it. Yeah, but they all
Speaker 1: everyone claims Compton crip. Nobody claims, but I ain't. Some
Speaker 1: railroad tracks and now in the Metro rail, but you
Speaker 1: got neighborhoods in that area. They split them because on
Speaker 1: one side of the track you got one gang and
Speaker 1: then you know, it's like you got Sentana on one
Speaker 1: side of the railroad track and then in treetop on
Speaker 1: the other side. Alright, you know Willowbrook where we Someone
Speaker 1: asked me, Uh, I guess this question was like, what
Speaker 1: are some of the most reputables that I've interviewed? Um,
Speaker 1: you know, he did have the biggest game in Compton
Speaker 1: on which and I trying to think of some of
Speaker 1: the most reputable guys that I've interviewed. It's harder for
Speaker 1: me to think, Oh, I've interviewed Bear from eight nineties Coasts.
Speaker 1: He was a well known eight nine actually interviewed uh
Speaker 1: a Mexican mafia um Earnest Roy bou Kill Roy from
Speaker 1: White Fence. He was seventy five years old too. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right. Actually, you know what, Craig Munson is probably
Speaker 1: the most reputable reputable street gangster that a boy white
Speaker 1: boy from Yah as a juvenile. Remember he was a
Speaker 1: fool at fourteen. A lot of guys wouldn't deal with
Speaker 1: the Munson's back then. They were at him. Seven brothers, man,
Speaker 1: the one you gotta worried about it is is uh
Speaker 1: Craig and Teddy Teddy Teddy like I said he to
Speaker 1: be do his pimp thing, but he was with the
Speaker 1: business like mother, You're knock your head though. But then
Speaker 1: the younger one, runt rest in peace. He was yeah, monster, yeah,
Speaker 1: And I was just surprised to find out you actually
Speaker 1: had a relationship with Yeah, my best friend Street uh No,
Speaker 1: brothers del Dog and his his brother Mike and Mike Mike,
Speaker 1: Mike Yeah, Mike Preacher, Yeah, he ap preach once the
Speaker 1: year my pastor, and then got a good relationship Ice.
Speaker 1: Mike is a good brother. Man. Now, I'm gonna say
Speaker 1: that the Munson family is probably the most reputable street
Speaker 1: guys in the history of Los Angeles, for real. And
Speaker 1: right in that same alley where if you're going the
Speaker 1: alley over there, Buddy House, right when you crossed the
Speaker 1: alley to come into the other part there is eighty one.
Speaker 1: You had a guy over there name Bubble. My uncle
Speaker 1: was in town. Now, Man, you got a meeting one
Speaker 1: that we're talking about a couple of weeks ago, Saturday.
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna give you his number so you can
Speaker 1: talk to him. You get a lot from you. But
Speaker 1: Bubba was one of the coldest cats I ever knew.
Speaker 1: He was uh, what's up? Holy smile at you and
Speaker 1: that night he's gonna take yours. George ain't got nothing
Speaker 1: on him. Bub we're doing life right now. But it
Speaker 1: was a lot of guys over there. Man that was
Speaker 1: really with the with the business. Um uh. It was
Speaker 1: the swan cat over there named Baby too cool was
Speaker 1: with the business. And I was a youngster growing up
Speaker 1: being over there, and he used to get him cast
Speaker 1: the blues. I'm talking about hit niggers with shovels. He was. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was with the business from love b over there.
Speaker 1: He had a brother, both him and killed tweet Tweetie
Speaker 1: tweet tweeter and b l oh my god. They they
Speaker 1: put stuff on bo Now. I interviewed Teddy Munson. It's
Speaker 1: an interview that no one's ever seen because I never
Speaker 1: posted it. But in the interview, he tells me that
Speaker 1: my older brother Craig was a monster that had sense.
Speaker 1: But he said, my little brother Run he was a monster.
Speaker 1: But sometimes his stuff just does not make sense and
Speaker 1: I couldn't control him anymore. I can tell you about run.
Speaker 1: Rug was like this, if we're friends, we're friends. If
Speaker 1: we ain't and I hear you feel otherwise, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: stand right next to you and I'm gonna knock you
Speaker 1: the funk out and run I got a reputation in
Speaker 1: kitchen cripp hood knocking niggers out. Just one here to quitter.
Speaker 1: He was a big guy. I say, Run was about
Speaker 1: six five straight. I'm talking about athlete. Didn't do no athletics,
Speaker 1: ship whatsoever, but had the body of it. You couldn't
Speaker 1: You couldn't touch him. He was solid and and good people.
Speaker 1: But if you didn't wrong he was, he would It
Speaker 1: didn't matter. You can't talking about the ship. You couldn't
Speaker 1: tell him know that ain't cool. You couldn't talking about
Speaker 1: the ship. Man. He's the only brother that was murdered. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: He was killed by the Swans. So and I don't
Speaker 1: want to forget my boy Ray mcgowand and then from
Speaker 1: the Bunny Hunters and r name McGowan. Yeah, I was
Speaker 1: just thinking of people that that Bonny Hunt rat. You
Speaker 1: know my relative to meet you boys. Man. I got
Speaker 1: man well, you know outside His first learning of Bounty
Speaker 1: Hunter is a death row video for the people who
Speaker 1: aren't from kell FTV. Yeah, I heard in that video
Speaker 1: that uh that they dragged sugar into the bathroom and
Speaker 1: had some words for him. But I was at there.
Speaker 1: You was actually there. I was there standing next me
Speaker 1: and my og hummy waltsing big walk. And what happened
Speaker 1: was Bunny had a rat and green Eyes walked up
Speaker 1: to it. But when I seen green Eyes walking toward him,
Speaker 1: I already know, hold of homie, I can't let you
Speaker 1: do that. He said. No, No, I ain't what you think.
Speaker 1: I said, Bunny rats and Bunny? How the hi? No?
Speaker 1: I got him? What I need to holidight? This came
Speaker 1: just business. Where's Bunny right now? Yeah? So you shouldn't
Speaker 1: even did that. You shouldn't even did that, man, that dude,
Speaker 1: what boy like that? Should So anyway, when Bett said
Speaker 1: I want to highlight him, should already know I got him.
Speaker 1: I got two pisces on me. Bunny had the rat,
Speaker 1: got thirteen fourteen year old, catch all of them pistoled up.
Speaker 1: So when him in, green Eyes saying, we gotta we
Speaker 1: gotta get at it because already money is being took
Speaker 1: it from him to give it to Harryoll. He'd been
Speaker 1: paying his debt or what the old or whatever HARRYO wanted.
Speaker 1: This is my goons, nigger they here, so he knew
Speaker 1: what was going on. So I'm not gonna let y'all
Speaker 1: take him in his bathroom. So walks that hold up Homie, Bunnie, Huda,
Speaker 1: Rat don't know walk. So he looked at what like,
Speaker 1: we can do something. Now hold up Rat. So shocks
Speaker 1: and no, no to me, I got it. I'm going there.
Speaker 1: Are you serious? Are you? Are you sure? And he
Speaker 1: said yeah, I'll be on the minute. So I backed
Speaker 1: up and said, told Rat, just them two in the bathroom.
Speaker 1: Shoot Bunnie, Honna, Rat and greenout three them three. So
Speaker 1: me and walk stood right there. No, Bob got he
Speaker 1: didn't go in there. Okay, I was there and when
Speaker 1: when that happened, wasn't there? No, I didn't say he
Speaker 1: went that the shoot. He wouldn't in that room in
Speaker 1: the bathroom. This for sure, I know that act walking,
Speaker 1: But wasn't it wasn't a little upset that that the
Speaker 1: homies is pressing sugar and they're trying to get their
Speaker 1: career and explained something. The little homies came funk with
Speaker 1: the big homies. They came funk with the big homies.
Speaker 1: Bonnie Hunda Rat was a big homie. I mean they
Speaker 1: was they had to press her on as if if
Speaker 1: you don't you already know what I'm talking about. It's
Speaker 1: been times where rating them come to the goddamn office
Speaker 1: and motherfucker's just slide that ship in no conversation that
Speaker 1: they should get their package off the table and leave
Speaker 1: package of money, no conversation whatsoever. So don't run man,
Speaker 1: my niggarressing peage. Don't y'all don't do him like that.
Speaker 1: He was with the business, and sul knew he was
Speaker 1: a soldier, and he when he saw a Bonnie Hanna
Speaker 1: rat straighten that shut up, and he did what you
Speaker 1: have to do. I ain't gonna sugar coach for sugar.
Speaker 1: He paid his way, and he knew he had to pay.
Speaker 1: He knew he owed those guys, So when he saw
Speaker 1: those faces, he already knew what the situation was. So
Speaker 1: doing that video and there I thought they was finning
Speaker 1: doing like on some real ship. And and that was
Speaker 1: the atmosphere. That was the whole feeling act walk I
Speaker 1: ain't got it felt fucked up. And that's why one
Speaker 1: of my reasons for not wanting Shill to go in there.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, now, Thank you we're in
Speaker 1: the projects. It's folteing. It's all the little boys out there,
Speaker 1: got guns, babies, and if you look at that video,
Speaker 1: there's at least a hundred bloods out and and and
Speaker 1: they was all packing. We just got killed because close together.
Speaker 1: But man, but that wouldn't have been worth it. That
Speaker 1: that was the bief that that has nothing to do
Speaker 1: with us, you know what I'm saying. That's a money
Speaker 1: proposition that that man made with another person. And and
Speaker 1: now you don't want to, you know, do what you
Speaker 1: have to do. That ain't our business. That ain't our fight.
Speaker 1: So that was one fight should have had to deal with,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like with the with the
Speaker 1: goddamn rams, this is the fight you gotta deal with.
Speaker 1: Why are we fighting for? For your Bluis ship? So
Speaker 1: it was ratting green Eyes there on behalf of Harry.
Speaker 1: Oh kind of on their own thing. Always suspect that
Speaker 1: their own thing or they was there for. They was there,
Speaker 1: uh for Harry. I didn't want to say that ship,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean, what other reason why they be there?
Speaker 1: What they be there? They're not just extorting money from
Speaker 1: should First it started off, boys said come holl let
Speaker 1: you it manly. Was David Kenner too. David. We was
Speaker 1: at the office one day and they came up to
Speaker 1: the office and for those who don't know, we're talking
Speaker 1: about the video call track them by O. F. TB.
Speaker 1: It's one of the hardest videos that you know, shows
Speaker 1: the gang culture and shot in the Nicholson Gardens housing
Speaker 1: projects back in the early nineties. But go ahead, Reggie,
Speaker 1: and they came and they got on the uh they
Speaker 1: was kipt napping David Kinner off the elevator and they
Speaker 1: all about five of them, and we were just so
Speaker 1: happened getting in the elevator coming off the elevator and
Speaker 1: they had David Kinner on the elevators, about seven or
Speaker 1: eight of us coming and we got on the elevator
Speaker 1: and they just walked and they just kept walking. David
Speaker 1: Kinner state on the elevator and David Kinner was like,
Speaker 1: thank you guys, thank you guys. Y'all just save my life.
Speaker 1: But that was that was just one of the moves
Speaker 1: that he made. That was a move by him now
Speaker 1: thinking that Okay, I can't be touched by this cat.
Speaker 1: That's any one of us. I got you, What can
Speaker 1: you do? To me from where you stand, you know,
Speaker 1: and that's being in prison for the rest of your life.
Speaker 1: So you feel you good? Now you bring everybody else
Speaker 1: into your bullshit because this person has friends, goons. I
Speaker 1: get it. If you're paying me good, I'm we we're going,
Speaker 1: and that's with anybody in the hood, big homie. The
Speaker 1: homies got a problem, and it's it's concerning money. Let's roll.
Speaker 1: But I'm suretb Upset was loan, know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: That was the situation that they could not even get
Speaker 1: involved in unless it turned into something that day, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Just like me personally. The only
Speaker 1: reason why I spoke on it is because I didn't
Speaker 1: want them to do ship and I wouldn't feel let
Speaker 1: it happen like that, you know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 1: I was as sure Schuk said, I got it, I'm
Speaker 1: going here and let me talk to him real quick,
Speaker 1: but looking at me like, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So when he said that, okay, I'm already knowing what
Speaker 1: you're going in their fault. I know what they're talking about.
Speaker 1: You've been dodging the phone calls, you ain't been sitting
Speaker 1: at that package like it's supposed to be. Nigger was adding,
Speaker 1: so now we gotta come see you type of ship.
Speaker 1: So then why would he even show up at that
Speaker 1: video shoot if he knew he was gonna get pressed
Speaker 1: because everybody else is there and at that time he
Speaker 1: just got caught slipping. I mean, if I'm sure, I'm
Speaker 1: saying to myself, I know green Eyes and rat gonna
Speaker 1: be there, me I really want to show up. The
Speaker 1: Shio doesn't have to be there. Ask this question. SiO
Speaker 1: can took his way out of a motherfucking if it's
Speaker 1: a tornado finner hit. If he had pointed his hands
Speaker 1: and tell you to get in front of the motherfucker
Speaker 1: posting him. Him and rat had they working relationship, but
Speaker 1: that way basically he was giving the money. He had
Speaker 1: a working relationship, They had a working relationship. They had
Speaker 1: a working relationship, and I guess he figured that everything
Speaker 1: would be all good. So what actually happened in the
Speaker 1: bathroom they put hands on him and was just conversation.
Speaker 1: They worked it out and Ratnam came to the office
Speaker 1: after after that, and and she continued to be what
Speaker 1: it was and then um Rad was Rad got killed
Speaker 1: and then after that. Yeah, after that, So the rumors
Speaker 1: that should got beat up in the bathroom not true.
Speaker 1: He didn't give me the know, No, he came close,
Speaker 1: didn't get dragged into the bathroom. They all walked in
Speaker 1: there together. Na, she didn't had niggas with him that
Speaker 1: was ready to do whatever. They wasn't gonna kill because
Speaker 1: we didn't have to. Wen't have we had deep how
Speaker 1: deep with the parrous that day? Y'all aren't deeper than
Speaker 1: the bounty hunters us. But everybody would spread it out,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And uh, you know, motherfucker's
Speaker 1: walking around smoking their weed and doing all of this,
Speaker 1: and that that was the day of not drinking. That
Speaker 1: was the day of no smoking weed. To to mind
Speaker 1: what I think. Because ship, we don't have previous party
Speaker 1: nights over there and the projects and and one body
Speaker 1: had walked up to my home boy. Well, well this
Speaker 1: nicker name Drew and just said can I get uh
Speaker 1: sip of that eight ball? And he gave him a
Speaker 1: simple ship and he's like, damn this ship good and
Speaker 1: walked away with the bottle. Now do I kill us
Speaker 1: nigga for taking my for the house or do I
Speaker 1: just let him have the motherfucking let him have it.
Speaker 1: Let him have it, because they're ready here in the projects.
Speaker 1: So that's one neighborhood you don't want to go mingling
Speaker 1: because they ain't got no it's no who's board and
Speaker 1: you start running around in no projects, I don't know
Speaker 1: where if you feel like killing somebody in the projects
Speaker 1: about I think l APD actually has um. Yeah they
Speaker 1: have a pass to shoot anyone they want in there.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they have the most officer involved. There's more.
Speaker 1: And maybe the police make them crazy. It's a it's
Speaker 1: a two way relationship. I know one thing. The police
Speaker 1: just don't go in there beating yours. They go in there,
Speaker 1: they ain't watching that, they ain't let go. What would
Speaker 1: make what would make people get on the roots of
Speaker 1: the projects and start shooting black and white while their
Speaker 1: crews through there just because they're crazy or that there's
Speaker 1: a relationship in that area that has made them crazy.
Speaker 1: I know the police go on their cracking heads, and
Speaker 1: that's one of the reasons why they do with that.
Speaker 1: When they go they go right, let them go. They
Speaker 1: gotta shoot first policy in the Nickolson Gardens and it
Speaker 1: goes back the stand first A long time. You know what,
Speaker 1: someone should actually do a documentary on how many unarmed
Speaker 1: people been shot and killed in the Nickerson Garden housing projects.
Speaker 1: I chased some guys in the Nickerson from Compton one time.
Speaker 1: All the way in there. The guy that killed one
Speaker 1: of my good friends Compton cops named Kevin Barrell, REJ Thomas.
Speaker 1: He killed two cops traffic stop boom boom and Kevin Barrell.
Speaker 1: How does the one guy gun down two cops in
Speaker 1: the traffic stop because cops, some cops are scared now.
Speaker 1: He had him, he had him on, he had him
Speaker 1: on the on the car and Kevin mr gun well
Speaker 1: with the searching he pushed got Kevin real quick. The
Speaker 1: other cop, I believe. Let me just say this from
Speaker 1: a cop field. Don't get mad. What's going to retreat?
Speaker 1: Froze up any card? You know. He was a reserve.
Speaker 1: He was his actually his last day of working for
Speaker 1: Confident as a reserve. He was on his way to
Speaker 1: the San Jose Police Department as a regular last day.
Speaker 1: Red Just Thomas, that's just houmas. And he was convicted
Speaker 1: of killing both officer Kevin Burrell and James McDonald's that's
Speaker 1: what shock meet. But James McDonald was the big white boy, right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was a big old Kevin Police station. He was
Speaker 1: one of the kids who grew up and play basketball
Speaker 1: with Gilly Davis. And then I'm not coming comfortable. My
Speaker 1: last question on this is o FTB never put out
Speaker 1: an album under Death Row. They always appeared on soundtracks
Speaker 1: after soundtrack after soundtrack. One soundtrack, I think was it
Speaker 1: just one? I think they didn't. They didn't even make
Speaker 1: the Well, I think they on the cassette. They made
Speaker 1: the Murder the Case, So why didn't they get pushed harder?
Speaker 1: Whatever happened to their career as a group. That was
Speaker 1: probably the realist gangsters that ever signed the Death Row.
Speaker 1: Come on, tell me who did get put out on
Speaker 1: Death Roll. Just a handful of folks exactly. Orb was
Speaker 1: actually one of buntry manager. He managed them they're gonna
Speaker 1: be put out. If if they got put out, it
Speaker 1: was gonna be on ghetto records. Most people don't know
Speaker 1: the Sugar created a secondary label for for for the Homies.
Speaker 1: But I'm sure if TB thought were we got an
Speaker 1: album coming out? So yeah, were only that's why they're here.
Speaker 1: An album they never got. They never put it out,
Speaker 1: never to put out? Who did you know? Lady and
Speaker 1: Rage eventually got something put out? But other than Rage,
Speaker 1: who did other than the ass you know, the dog
Speaker 1: pound Snoop bor or pop? Did Danny Boy put it
Speaker 1: on out? Never? Never? Danny Boy was pretty much on
Speaker 1: everybody ship, but he didn't even get paid for that.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Oh my god, the middle back. Hold on,
Speaker 1: hold on, let me go back to interview. Okay, that's
Speaker 1: shop an album out. This man will had a living
Speaker 1: in Britain, wood in a condo, had a personal assistant.
Speaker 1: Uh is that the kind of music career you want
Speaker 1: to have just being on the bunchtually guy put out?
Speaker 1: Did you hear all type of artists telling YouTube took
Speaker 1: me ten years, five years to get an album out.
Speaker 1: That was a step. Death Row went to went to
Speaker 1: president and then everything had to get re everything. It
Speaker 1: didn't stop. It didn't stop but stuff and he because
Speaker 1: people didn't have the patience and they started acting on
Speaker 1: acting funny and all right, since we're talking about death Row,
Speaker 1: we got another question. Who on death Row was the
Speaker 1: most opposite of what they portrayed. And let's say, regardless
Speaker 1: of they put an album out or not just one
Speaker 1: who was signed a death Row who was doing music
Speaker 1: with death Row, who goes who was opposite of the
Speaker 1: image that they portrayed the most? Well, what kind of
Speaker 1: image did he portray that he was? He wasn't that
Speaker 1: he was had what is it sexual? Oh well, I
Speaker 1: don't think that's with you know what. You know he
Speaker 1: was writing, he was writing love song. You know, this
Speaker 1: show was nothing to be about talking about my god.
Speaker 1: That man, that's some ship you just go around. I
Speaker 1: think the question had to do it more about the image.
Speaker 1: It's a st a street image, a non street image,
Speaker 1: you know. You like, Well, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: say Snoop and and and and I don't want abody
Speaker 1: to take this role. I just think Schnoop wasn't like
Speaker 1: really affiliated, like really into the gang's deep like he
Speaker 1: said he was, or how he patrolled like you just
Speaker 1: you know this, Yeah, you know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: don't I don't believe he was like that. I think
Speaker 1: he got more of a soft design than that that.
Speaker 1: I gotta be this tough crip kind of kind of do.
Speaker 1: Whether it was crip or blood, it don't matter. I
Speaker 1: don't think he had it any It was him like
Speaker 1: like he said, he like he said he is and
Speaker 1: and you know, I think trying to try to play
Speaker 1: both parts and trying to be this type of person
Speaker 1: got him in trouble a little bit, you know, because
Speaker 1: you can't you run around all day trying to be
Speaker 1: this tough as cat. At the end of the day,
Speaker 1: somebody gonna test that ass. When that ass get tested you,
Speaker 1: it's a must that you be ready for it. If not,
Speaker 1: your asses out, just like going to penitentiary. If you
Speaker 1: get funk one time and and seem c and wind
Speaker 1: up and FoST him, motherfucker's gonna know you've been fucked.
Speaker 1: It gets there that quick. And just imagine this bullshit
Speaker 1: and all the little ship that he didn't his encounters.
Speaker 1: He didn't ran into certain cash I'm hearing he didn't
Speaker 1: got hit or he ran from Trayvon, Uh some other bullshit.
Speaker 1: Come on, man, that ain't no that ain't no gamester man,
Speaker 1: that ain't no gagster. He told me about when Trayvon
Speaker 1: got socked him at the Universal amples what you're talking about.
Speaker 1: But ship like that, that type of roll straight to
Speaker 1: the police with marijuana and pocket. Yeah, you basically he
Speaker 1: was about to snitch on Trayvon. It was about your
Speaker 1: saying he was about to snitch an well he did,
Speaker 1: actually did. He told the cop acting and saying who killed?
Speaker 1: Who killed? Um Tupac? This is what the cop acting
Speaker 1: And he said, oh, the person sitting next to him,
Speaker 1: who's your that Snoop? Oh maybe that's lying because that's
Speaker 1: not true. Well, who was he lying on? Trayvon? He
Speaker 1: was saying, is that next doing? Well, you know that's
Speaker 1: because he was not. He wasn't lying. His money paid
Speaker 1: for us for two pucks to get killed? No, not you?
Speaker 1: Thank you everybody up. I basically, what are they gonna
Speaker 1: put that? Hell, you're gonna be all on the jay mob?
Speaker 1: James say, super paid for two to get killed? No plea.
Speaker 1: He didn't say that, y'all. I didn't say that, all right.
Speaker 1: So so Snoop was one of those guys that represented
Speaker 1: an image that that that wasn't that really wasn't happy.
Speaker 1: Let me let me ask the reverse of this question.
Speaker 1: Who was the realist street cats that were artists at
Speaker 1: Death Throw? I think I think Corrupt was was more
Speaker 1: solid than all of them. I don't Corrupt was more
Speaker 1: stand up to me when I seen't corrupt than uh
Speaker 1: those other guys there when the niggas was crying for
Speaker 1: for protection and help after the niggas, after that stuff
Speaker 1: happened that they al ray, So I would say that trade.
Speaker 1: He is probably one of the real street cats that
Speaker 1: I know. He wasn't signed to death Row, right, but
Speaker 1: he worked with cats up there. We sat were cool,
Speaker 1: they were solid. I never ran into him, Yeah, but
Speaker 1: they were solid. They're not like they portrayed. They're not
Speaker 1: like I d end up having to do some time
Speaker 1: in prison for shooting it. But yeah, actingly what he
Speaker 1: was on when he did that, What do you mean
Speaker 1: You're talking about under the influence, So that don't make
Speaker 1: it for games. I mean most people, well ever since
Speaker 1: the sixties, people used to take red devils before they
Speaker 1: putting their work. Now it's uh, well most dudes get
Speaker 1: drunk and not. But I'm just saying he was and
Speaker 1: he shot that knew who just explained to me what's
Speaker 1: was about. He knew what he was used to pushing
Speaker 1: up on. He didn't think that he would go to
Speaker 1: Diamond Bar police or the l County shars and follow
Speaker 1: report against me. Now I'm interest didn't know. Why do
Speaker 1: you think James, Why don't think corrupt was solid? What
Speaker 1: did you see? Just just the way he walked this way,
Speaker 1: I thought by him he was more to himself. He
Speaker 1: wouldn't really like trying to be improved to all these
Speaker 1: bloods that he was with it. He didn't know extras on. No,
Speaker 1: he didn't have to do that, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Sometimes Snoop was always the to one guy. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Just because you're a crimp, just because
Speaker 1: you're blood, don't mean you have to say blood before
Speaker 1: you finish your sentence. Yeah, cousin and you know cousin, Yeah,
Speaker 1: cousin and and we which caling like that. Cuse what
Speaker 1: are you talking about? None of the artists was like
Speaker 1: or built the way they were. Even Shoo Shoot Shoot
Speaker 1: Ship was an actor. He perpetrated. I don't be honest.
Speaker 1: You know he learned he had to do with him.
Speaker 1: That was his backup. He started claiming mob when he
Speaker 1: got back from college when he was three years old.
Speaker 1: And I really do say I take the blame for it.
Speaker 1: It is my fault. It's my fault for bringing sugar.
Speaker 1: Now should living in the hood and everybody getting twisted.
Speaker 1: When Shoard came to me when I got out of
Speaker 1: prison and I introduced shoot people, he didn't know. And
Speaker 1: that's what God should should took it up on the
Speaker 1: shelf to start mingling and and and dealing with other
Speaker 1: people and saying what he can do and what are
Speaker 1: he's gonna do? But you knew shook from before then,
Speaker 1: but your brother didn't know shook from before then. No,
Speaker 1: no sho. That's how storycles and school Linwood. But let
Speaker 1: me just say this about you should who had Ronald
Speaker 1: Donald his cousins, the twins with thes and so they
Speaker 1: were big who at Lynwood, which was kind of a
Speaker 1: nice school. And that's why we didn't go to the mingus.
Speaker 1: We went to the nicer school and was playing football
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. But they weren't no punks on
Speaker 1: that campus. The Knights did have to start at Lanwood,
Speaker 1: and and Ronald and Donald used to fix that ship.
Speaker 1: Ron and don we gotta You got the Knights and
Speaker 1: then you got the Jackson's. Remember the twins and Donald
Speaker 1: Donald johns all was with the business. But even even
Speaker 1: should so by introducing shig all these bloods, he was
Speaker 1: just like what the fuck? You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: he was blown away. Should wasn't wearing red suits and
Speaker 1: and and all his other ship. He wasn't doing that.
Speaker 1: He was more and so mom saying he wasn't on
Speaker 1: the game bang and expect. But he still had a
Speaker 1: little size on him and he would he would be
Speaker 1: the mouth Era one and but he did have his
Speaker 1: back up with his cousins and then took advantage of
Speaker 1: the situation. Okay, I got all these motherfucker's. Now I
Speaker 1: can recruit other motherfucker's, but you got the best of
Speaker 1: the best. When when Juju and Buntry and and neck
Speaker 1: Bone and the weakest link is Traybone, when you got
Speaker 1: all these motherfucking hitters and all these kinds coming that
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna say Trayvon ain't gonna do what you
Speaker 1: have to do. But now should feel like, okay, I
Speaker 1: can be this person. So they turned into a goddamn
Speaker 1: You had the crew and and and and and then
Speaker 1: he got exposed once he lost his crew and no
Speaker 1: district never lanes and all of them. But that's who
Speaker 1: he started hanging with, and he was promising that stuff,
Speaker 1: and they were thinking, Okay, he's gonna make us this
Speaker 1: or he's gonna put this album out for us, and
Speaker 1: he's gonna do this. And then they started falling off,
Speaker 1: and you know, and he'll go. And that's why at
Speaker 1: the end he was running around with different but the
Speaker 1: pyrou members and not anybody from the hood should got
Speaker 1: caught up in at the And that's why he got
Speaker 1: knocked out by the barber, or that's why he got
Speaker 1: knocked out by uh that boy, uh the guy at
Speaker 1: in Super Bowl. Um, goddamn, Like I said, if you
Speaker 1: don't have a playing B. If you if you're gonna
Speaker 1: be a fucking thug and you're talking all this ship
Speaker 1: talking all this ship and and and people tire of
Speaker 1: that ship. Now, now you gotta prove yourself to me,
Speaker 1: which what it should be now, playing B. If you
Speaker 1: don't got playing B, you're gonna get your ass whooped.
Speaker 1: Now you ain't number of ship talking, you're running your mouth.
Speaker 1: Fuck you, you you ain't gonna do nothing. So that's what
Speaker 1: happened to Shig. At the end of the day, your
Speaker 1: your your status is gone, all these guys is gone.
Speaker 1: All you have to do is look to your side.
Speaker 1: And motherfucker's just taking off on people. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, you don't have to fight. You're not gonna
Speaker 1: never lose the fight. When you got fifteen niggas beating
Speaker 1: the ship out of one nigga and you jump in,
Speaker 1: you're not gonna lose. But should has sucks motherfucker's But goddamn,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna fight you back all these motherfucker's but
Speaker 1: motherfucker's in Vegas. I wonder if took a fair faith
Speaker 1: one on one head up somebody we had to fight
Speaker 1: with the Rams, and sheild came all the way inside
Speaker 1: the goddamn clubhouse, Roxberry who was at and got everybody called,
Speaker 1: everybody told everybody it was on. And there was one
Speaker 1: guy from the RAMS that he didn't like when he
Speaker 1: was trying out for the Rams, and dude was out
Speaker 1: there talking ship to him. That's why you didn't make
Speaker 1: the team to cut the wood the woof and then
Speaker 1: stretched his Uh was that a band's the Pink One
Speaker 1: Future stretched that motherfucker with his key and she didn't
Speaker 1: do ship. Why are you coming to get us? And
Speaker 1: this dude did this to you in your face right there.
Speaker 1: I just took off on his motherfucking ass. He ran
Speaker 1: in there and got all of us. Now we come
Speaker 1: all these other motherfuckers start getting out their car, standing
Speaker 1: up like I'm looking like, what the funk look at
Speaker 1: this dude neck. I mean, they were some big bump
Speaker 1: so he was actually a play. You're on the rams. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all of them was tea or whatever. They at Roxbury
Speaker 1: and uh and uh, after it was all over because
Speaker 1: we was whooping their ass. We was whooping their ass.
Speaker 1: They did. I betually they don't want to fight no
Speaker 1: more because we whipped their ass. And uh, we were
Speaker 1: standing on cars kicking them upside the head and ship.
Speaker 1: They were just so tall, big motherfuckers sucking them up
Speaker 1: and h. After it was all over, we asked you
Speaker 1: what the fund was going on and he said, this
Speaker 1: motherfucker stretched my car and the broad that was standing
Speaker 1: there with the Rams was like, no. He called you
Speaker 1: whoo the woo whoo motherfucker and stretched your car and
Speaker 1: your face and asked you what the funk you want
Speaker 1: to do? And you left pretty much ran from the
Speaker 1: situation and came and got us. But fucking that the
Speaker 1: at the dude then got out of the car and
Speaker 1: stood over there by the whole boy. Okay, now that's on.
Speaker 1: This is the This is the gesture, y'all. Just this
Speaker 1: is saying like, fuck you nikas, let's go and ship
Speaker 1: we took off to you guys basically had like a
Speaker 1: little rumble. We beat the ship out the rams. So
Speaker 1: that's something that Shou should have just handled one on
Speaker 1: one with that was a situation. So you guys came
Speaker 1: in with misinformation. Yeah, well he never told us what
Speaker 1: was going on. But these motherfucker's out here tripping. So
Speaker 1: after the whole thing was over, because one of the
Speaker 1: twins that was the only one that went to jail,
Speaker 1: and he only went to jail because he was still
Speaker 1: beating the ship out to motherfucker in the street, kicking
Speaker 1: him up on the goddamn car and the police rolled up.
Speaker 1: But Ship, he was at the goddamn uh office before
Speaker 1: we made it fast. He was out that fast. So
Speaker 1: by Shook doing what he what what what he did,
Speaker 1: should should have handled his motherucking business as a man.
Speaker 1: But he couldn't do that because everything else was fake titious.
Speaker 1: His whole getting down was a joke. But now you've
Speaker 1: been exposed at that point by this one dude. So
Speaker 1: that's what I say, everybody ain't built for that ship.
Speaker 1: You can play it, but everybody ain't built for it,
Speaker 1: and don't nobody. Everybody don't have a player b So
Speaker 1: any other characters at Death Row that portrayed themselves one
Speaker 1: way but we're really another way. We mentioned Snoop Sugar,
Speaker 1: You're I didn't deal with and they don't have to
Speaker 1: be no street stuff because for example, we all know
Speaker 1: Michelle A story. But when I was young listening to
Speaker 1: Michelle A, she came off as the most innocent, nice,
Speaker 1: friendly singer. And then when you know, as we learned stuff,
Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, you know that she got caught up
Speaker 1: in but she was a drunk um, but she you know,
Speaker 1: she was just like everybody else doing what they're doing
Speaker 1: to try to get a check. And so that's all
Speaker 1: I mean. Later um, as far as I mean, because
Speaker 1: she slept with with everybody, are are the guys that
Speaker 1: she did sleep with? Jillian Sugar, I mean everybody who
Speaker 1: they ain't with us who goes down as the realist artist,
Speaker 1: the real the most solid, the most realist, the most sincere,
Speaker 1: honest person that ever came associated themselves with the label.
Speaker 1: I don't know that that was associated with the label,
Speaker 1: but was cool. It was it was it was what
Speaker 1: it for a minute, Um, I'm not gonna say none
Speaker 1: of and and eight the super Fest, that was the
Speaker 1: coolest dude I ever met. And and the reason why
Speaker 1: I say that is he was performing, had to perform,
Speaker 1: and it was a situation between the New York Cats
Speaker 1: out there and the police, and he came out. I
Speaker 1: had my Homeboys show both working at the time. It
Speaker 1: was guys in the in the concert snatch and chains
Speaker 1: and doing all his other ship, but the police was
Speaker 1: about to beat the ship out these guys my boys
Speaker 1: show bol picked the motherfucker up on his neck and
Speaker 1: was walking his dude all the way down the stairs,
Speaker 1: just took him from the police and just motherfucking woo
Speaker 1: woof hold of him and uh Komo d came over.
Speaker 1: There was like, damn, what the fund is going on here?
Speaker 1: That was the coolest cat and just having the small conversations.
Speaker 1: You can see he was with it. He was with it,
Speaker 1: but he was and his brother was there and he
Speaker 1: was just a cool motherfucker. I the most the other
Speaker 1: ones I've been. He didn't funk. And then talk you
Speaker 1: know of late as an artist. I just want to
Speaker 1: go back to the artist of late who seems to
Speaker 1: be like that, and people are gonna be shocked at
Speaker 1: I said it was that dash of late, not when
Speaker 1: he was younger, but of late. Daths been. Um, he's
Speaker 1: been out there doing whatever he needs to be doing.
Speaker 1: I will say, da pure. Even though he told he
Speaker 1: told a fake story about masters, Yeah, that's just that.
Speaker 1: But I'm saying that's I'm saying yeah, yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: he don't know the Latin Masters or all of that.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what he had, but we
Speaker 1: took it back from his wife. But you know that
Speaker 1: ask me out there. You know, I like I like
Speaker 1: Das even though Dad's always talking about me still like that.
Speaker 1: I can't think of an artist that was that was
Speaker 1: about about it, because that's the second part of the
Speaker 1: question you asked, right, I can't think of an artist.
Speaker 1: Quick was definitely fake. Um, Quick was fake. Now I'm
Speaker 1: gonna defend Quick Man. We went to quick house three
Speaker 1: in the morning. He was scared shaking. I mean, he's
Speaker 1: a knocked under. Me and tray Bone the two softest
Speaker 1: ones on the It don't matter, man, You're you're drilling
Speaker 1: in when you're about to feel like you're in the occucation. Man.
Speaker 1: You're gonna start shaking anyway when you because you're you.
Speaker 1: You pumped up now and you feel the butterflies and
Speaker 1: all that ship because you know something that happened. Now
Speaker 1: He did bounce up and came up with at the
Speaker 1: office the next day. When I said, I've never known
Speaker 1: him for being in this shood to be no bitch
Speaker 1: asking me personally, actually me and mass around you should
Speaker 1: hang over that way. He didn't. He want him and
Speaker 1: Dred didn't like the drama. That's one thing I can
Speaker 1: say about him. They didn't like. They didn't like that.
Speaker 1: They didn't like that, and trying to be a bully
Speaker 1: with everything and everybody. Now he slapped his bodyguard because
Speaker 1: she still told him, you need to discipline anymore. I
Speaker 1: won't do it for bringing a gun on on the road.
Speaker 1: Let me slap this niggah. I got so yeah, So
Speaker 1: he did that. Ain't not wrong with that. He fired
Speaker 1: on Zelli for from HollyHood. Remember Zell, because because they
Speaker 1: found out that he took All Eyes on the album
Speaker 1: up to Uh to the Car. Washington was up there
Speaker 1: selling it to Melvin And now and untouchable sounds. I
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know. That's that's that's a hard questions.
Speaker 1: Where's a lot of guys out there that portrayed which
Speaker 1: is cool. I mean these guys trying to make money,
Speaker 1: they really are artists really yeah, yeah, it's entertainment. Yeah
Speaker 1: and me artists have different talents. Okay, But but but
Speaker 1: when you do that, when you do that and you
Speaker 1: have there rapping and you you're portraying this gangs, motherfucker,
Speaker 1: you gotta think people are looking at that, kids are
Speaker 1: looking at that, and they believe in this ship, so
Speaker 1: they started acting that way. Don't portray nothing that you're
Speaker 1: not because at the end of the day, your ass
Speaker 1: gonna be in the real world and you're gonna get
Speaker 1: your songs. You know, most of America thought or thinks
Speaker 1: that Ice Cube was the biggest gangster in Los Angeles
Speaker 1: to the music. I don't think he gang bang a
Speaker 1: day in his life. I heard Cast say, you ain't
Speaker 1: from You ain't from neighborhood sixties. You never was. I
Speaker 1: heard Cast say that about ice Q. She grew up
Speaker 1: in one eleven. Now, when I heard you and you
Speaker 1: told him you ain't from sixties from neighborhood. Probably don't
Speaker 1: want to be I'm just saying, I guess ice iced
Speaker 1: t was closed, That's what. I don't know where I
Speaker 1: c Yeah, no, I don't know if he's from one eleven,
Speaker 1: but he historically you could say he's the biggest most
Speaker 1: successful gangster rapper, one of the most successful for someone
Speaker 1: that never gang bang. Okay, you made money once again,
Speaker 1: these guys made money off of being Would you say
Speaker 1: Ice Cube glorified gangs or was he just trying to
Speaker 1: tell us a story and and educate us? Once they
Speaker 1: realized game banging, ship sale, Compton sales, and then and
Speaker 1: and and they start making money off of it. Why not?
Speaker 1: Why not do it? But they were doing it when
Speaker 1: it wasn't popular. They started off THEYD be popular. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but they didn't know that it was gonna make them
Speaker 1: millions of dollars. You think easy, We're about to make
Speaker 1: and start saying fun the police and then ship started happening.
Speaker 1: They had a vision. I think they became more successful
Speaker 1: than they ever envisioned. I probably show but come on,
Speaker 1: we ain't. And they were doing something that no one
Speaker 1: else had had been doing. Come on, we ain't thugs.
Speaker 1: We ain't game bangers. We're not game bangers. We can't
Speaker 1: get in here and say, yeah, I culled, this is
Speaker 1: a game banger. I killed for my hood, I robbed
Speaker 1: for my hood. I beat nicks up from my hood.
Speaker 1: These dudes at out there saying that they did that ship.
Speaker 1: They did that ship. If you, if you, and then
Speaker 1: I don't know why they ain't. Oh man, this is
Speaker 1: this is crazy. Those are not game bankers. Man, those
Speaker 1: are guys. Just just call it studio games. But when
Speaker 1: you think about it, there's not one successful what successful
Speaker 1: rapper was a real gang member. Yeah it's not. I
Speaker 1: don't think you can name. Then somebody from the left
Speaker 1: boll go to jail for killing somebody or something. I
Speaker 1: don't know. Most of the most of your commercially successful
Speaker 1: rappers were never in a gang or gang bang. I mean,
Speaker 1: Trade d is probably one of the realist one, but
Speaker 1: he was not nowhere nearly successful Snoop and ice Cube,
Speaker 1: just like he was saying will Smith, So it works.
Speaker 1: Not being a game banker, his rap works. So why
Speaker 1: don't them dudes opposed to sitting out here for trying
Speaker 1: to goddamn c before Hendrick Lamar and j Cole. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Steph playing the c before the game and ship you know,
Speaker 1: motherfucker you can put on a wig, Jerry curl glasses,
Speaker 1: the cups of hats and going out there and stoke.
Speaker 1: I think the more real gangster you are, the harder
Speaker 1: it is gonna be for you to be successful as
Speaker 1: a rapper, because look at the ones that have made
Speaker 1: have achieved commercial success. No, the reason why they don't
Speaker 1: make it is because they overdo it. It just took
Speaker 1: Sugar a little more time to fall off, because I
Speaker 1: got your point. Like ce Bowl, who I think is
Speaker 1: real maybe realm from up there and he wrapped the
Speaker 1: realist dependent level. But I I think you have to
Speaker 1: be somebody else who we thought was tight and he's
Speaker 1: running for city council now, so he showed that he's not. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I get your point. I don't know, I get
Speaker 1: both of your point right, all right, guys. I want
Speaker 1: to thank the two people who submitted those questions. Uh,
Speaker 1: that would be Season Mug and Jordan's And I want
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