Speaker 1: What do you call two guys were there when this happened?
Speaker 1: Back to return at Spurlock Michael Spurlock at the chin,
Speaker 1: and he's still the twenty. He still the twenty five
Speaker 1: thirty top forty yardline history, fifty forty thirty yards. Michael Rot,
Speaker 1: Michael Rock, Michael Rod stop tap, here you go, and
Speaker 1: then sixty two yard for your goal attempts. It is God, God, God,
Speaker 1: God box Eagles. Who can forget again? I'm looking again already.
Speaker 1: Derek Bucks, diredy touchdown tamp a day, Derek Bucks, spariable player.
Speaker 1: You're the national football like third is Tuck Daggers in
Speaker 1: where are you gonna win the Super Bowl? We call
Speaker 1: them the salty Dogs? He done there? Jeff, are you
Speaker 1: doing today? Awesome? Awesome? You're ready to do a little
Speaker 1: podcast for the fans here I am. I am pumped up.
Speaker 1: I don't know what day it is, but I'm ready
Speaker 1: to go. It is hard to keep tray. It is crazy.
Speaker 1: It's Wednesday. It is. Yeah, Well it could be a
Speaker 1: Monday because I watched football last night, so I know
Speaker 1: that's I'm just saying it could be Tuesday since you
Speaker 1: watched last night. It could be Friday, crazy time. We're
Speaker 1: not gonna stop until the NFL's on every night. Uh,
Speaker 1: that was weird football being on last night. It was
Speaker 1: a good game, though, Yeah, I can't say I saw
Speaker 1: a ton of it because I was pretty interested in
Speaker 1: the Rays as well. I was doing both. I was
Speaker 1: flipping back and forth. How about those Rays? Well, actually,
Speaker 1: I have to confess I was not doing the flipping.
Speaker 1: The Dodgers are on, so I had to deal with
Speaker 1: that last night. Jeff wife is a big Goddress fan. Therefore,
Speaker 1: she's feeling the pain once again once again as it
Speaker 1: looks like they could squander yet another opportunity when it
Speaker 1: looks like they have the best right and and and
Speaker 1: she wouldn't say this to you, but I will. At
Speaker 1: least her team's in it. I was taking a sip
Speaker 1: when you said that nearly had a spit tach. My
Speaker 1: team was in it. So both teams either playoffs but
Speaker 1: not very far well made the playoffs and neither one. Well,
Speaker 1: the Dodger are still a shot. We can't write them all.
Speaker 1: And congrats to the Rays. They could wrap it up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: amazing you they're just throwing like one nineties six and
Speaker 1: nasty think you think Houston would have Steve Sacks playing
Speaker 1: second and then they're they're playing phenomenal defense, Joey Windle
Speaker 1: over their thirds like a vacuum and then uh, and
Speaker 1: then they just wait for the Astros to make a mistake.
Speaker 1: And this is a nice part about the Salty Dogs.
Speaker 1: We're all about football and Buccaneers stuff, but we're also
Speaker 1: sports film. Well, it's kind of an incredible it's kind
Speaker 1: of an incredible time for this area after the lightning
Speaker 1: one Stanley Cup and now the Rays could win their
Speaker 1: first championship and and I still have a lot of
Speaker 1: faith that the Bucks are going to be on prime contender.
Speaker 1: When it's all a sudden Yeah, no pressure, Tom. You know,
Speaker 1: I was just talking about the Salty Dogs defense. Let
Speaker 1: me get your salty dog can't come in here very
Speaker 1: quick and fast, get out of here. Um the raised defense.
Speaker 1: Did you see the catch by Manuel Margot when he
Speaker 1: went flying over the sideline? I have long held and
Speaker 1: I want to see how you feel about this, that
Speaker 1: if you cannot stay in the field of play while
Speaker 1: making a catch, it should not count as a catch.
Speaker 1: You did not keep that ball in the field of
Speaker 1: play when you're trying to rob a homer or Rob's
Speaker 1: going in a foul territory. You're trying to keep it
Speaker 1: from landing out of play. And if you fall over
Speaker 1: the wall into into the out of play, then you
Speaker 1: didn't succeed, No, because you're out of bounce. Yeah, if
Speaker 1: you if you jump over the center, now, if you
Speaker 1: stick your arm over there, that's the whole idea. That
Speaker 1: means the ball never landed on the ground. Right, Well,
Speaker 1: the ball never land on the ground just one either,
Speaker 1: although you could say, but yeah, if you were if
Speaker 1: there was a fence short enough for a guy in
Speaker 1: the outfield to jump and he makes an incredible catch
Speaker 1: but then flips over it, which I'm sure has happened
Speaker 1: at some point in baseball history. He lands out there,
Speaker 1: that shouldn't kind. If he can't stand out there and
Speaker 1: wait for Homer and catch it, that wouldn't be an out.
Speaker 1: So why isn't it out if you fall out there
Speaker 1: while catching it? I just don't agree. I I love
Speaker 1: baseball and I like most of the rules, but I
Speaker 1: think that that's the beauty about sports. You don't have
Speaker 1: to agree. Um, all right, do you want to talk
Speaker 1: about some I do? I had about a million roster
Speaker 1: moves yesterday. Holy smokes it, it is crazy. Well, the first,
Speaker 1: the first Domino and all that, of course, was Vida
Speaker 1: Vella's injury, which was I'm still not over that. Sorry.
Speaker 1: I know, I woke up the next day in such
Speaker 1: a bad mood. And it's not like it's affecting me
Speaker 1: more than his teammates or he was really off to
Speaker 1: a good stuf. I don't know if some people realize
Speaker 1: just how good he was playing and just how big
Speaker 1: of a loss that is. And it's sad because it
Speaker 1: was all coming together for him. We'll see what one
Speaker 1: loss means by the end of the year. But I
Speaker 1: think it's possible that the on that Thursday night, the
Speaker 1: loss of Vita Vea was worse for us than the
Speaker 1: loss of the game. Oh, I agree, because it's never
Speaker 1: I mean, you can forget the Chicago game. It's done,
Speaker 1: it's over, a move on. But uh, having Via Vega
Speaker 1: gone is going to be every single game well every yeah,
Speaker 1: but every win and every lost counts, and when we
Speaker 1: count them up at the end of the year, if
Speaker 1: you if you find out you're you missed by one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Well I don't envision that in a but but if
Speaker 1: as I look at that Chicago game, it was bad
Speaker 1: enough that that we lost for you to vea But
Speaker 1: I just what I felt, really, I just really just
Speaker 1: didn't understand all the penalties. And I know I couldn't
Speaker 1: be careful because if you have a team that played
Speaker 1: so well the week before, you have the offensive player
Speaker 1: of the week, and then this week you're having all
Speaker 1: these issues. And Bruce Arian said, it's you know, we
Speaker 1: got to coach them up better. But I don't know
Speaker 1: how in three days they forgot Okay, I thought you
Speaker 1: were going a different No, no, no, I'm not No,
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about Zebras at all, not at all. No,
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the fact that I think that's just
Speaker 1: a game that got away from them, and I think
Speaker 1: that hurts more. I I really believe that that that
Speaker 1: loss bothered me more than the last time we were
Speaker 1: in Chicago. And law well, that one was you were
Speaker 1: kind of over it by midway through the second you're
Speaker 1: getting spanked and it's overwhe with it. That was about
Speaker 1: Mitch Robiskie's career production in that game alone. But yeah,
Speaker 1: of course, a tougher loss that you think you're gonna
Speaker 1: win is a harder one to swallow. Uh. As far
Speaker 1: as penalty, as far as the the referees, let's just
Speaker 1: say that Bruce arians was just asked in a zoom
Speaker 1: call if the Buccaneers had submitted the play where Shack
Speaker 1: Barrett was called for rough in the pass her and
Speaker 1: if there had been any response, and his answer was no,
Speaker 1: common brother. Yeah, So that's about as far as we
Speaker 1: can go with that. No, I agree. Yeah, I concur
Speaker 1: with Bruce Sians on now, uh that you concur with
Speaker 1: no common in me keeping your wallet there? Uh yeah. Um,
Speaker 1: there there have been a penalty There have been penalty problems. Um.
Speaker 1: And I think our offensive line is playing very well
Speaker 1: for the most part, and I think they have some
Speaker 1: games that are great. The Chargers game, the offensive line
Speaker 1: was great. Could have been the m V p uh
Speaker 1: the Chicagogy and they weren't great, although the pressure still
Speaker 1: wasn't terrible and the running and they did open some
Speaker 1: good holes for Ronald Jones. There are penalty problems. We've
Speaker 1: had nine holding calls. That's not the most. Kansas City
Speaker 1: actually has more. It's funny because you look at it,
Speaker 1: the teams with the most holding calls are US, Kansas City, Buffalo,
Speaker 1: they're all doing pretty well. Seattle has some of the
Speaker 1: most false starts. They've always been a highly penalized team,
Speaker 1: and they keep winning. So a high number of penalties
Speaker 1: in and of itself has not been correlated with winning
Speaker 1: and losing teams. Like I said, Seattle has been a
Speaker 1: highly penalized team for a long time. Raiders used to
Speaker 1: be great and they didn't care about the penalties they got, right, Um,
Speaker 1: So it's not really the number, it's it's the situations,
Speaker 1: and it's too many of them are putting the Bucks
Speaker 1: in bad down and distant situations. So nine holding calls,
Speaker 1: one of those was on the receiver. So eight holding
Speaker 1: calls on our offensive lineman and eight false starts, five
Speaker 1: of which were on offensive linemen. So, uh, that's probably
Speaker 1: the only thing that they need to clean up. And
Speaker 1: then and then you could say it's already above average
Speaker 1: line according to the stats. Yeah, And and it's something
Speaker 1: that you can clean up really quickly. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: not it's not like you gotta figure out how to
Speaker 1: run faster, you know, I mean, it's it's it's a
Speaker 1: mental it's a mental approach. Well, some of it is Yeah.
Speaker 1: Some of it though, is attention to detail. Cruiserans are
Speaker 1: just saying if you're you know, it's techniques. Sometimes on
Speaker 1: these holding calls, you get your feet beat as as
Speaker 1: the way you put it, and then the guy beats
Speaker 1: you because your footwork was wrong. And then he's like,
Speaker 1: if he beats you and his head to the quarterback,
Speaker 1: I want you to hold him. I don't want their quarterback. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he staid, he'll take the fifteen yard penalty rather than
Speaker 1: having his quarterback kids whatever. Well, if it's a personal foul,
Speaker 1: but whatever, yes, so and that is a problem, and
Speaker 1: I'll throw another number at you. Um. The Bucks are
Speaker 1: pretty good. They're about mill of the pack in third
Speaker 1: down conversions this year at forty one point five percent,
Speaker 1: which is amazing to me that the middle of the
Speaker 1: pack in the NFL right now is conversion rate ten
Speaker 1: fifteen years ago, that would have been one of the
Speaker 1: best teams in the league. Now that there's three teams
Speaker 1: over fift the Packers are coming here at fifty one
Speaker 1: percent and they're not even number one in the league. Uh.
Speaker 1: The Buccaneers are pretty good. They're very good. If they
Speaker 1: can keep it short. They're one of the best teams
Speaker 1: in the league third and third and one, third and six,
Speaker 1: and so when we've been able to do well on
Speaker 1: first and second down and crucially avoid penalties that put
Speaker 1: you in behind the eight ball and done in distance,
Speaker 1: the offense moves along just fine once you go from
Speaker 1: third and seven and back. We're three of thirty so
Speaker 1: far this year, and um so as soon as you
Speaker 1: hurt yourself a little bit, you kill your drive. Third
Speaker 1: and third and lung is always hard. But I think
Speaker 1: we probably could do a little better. We did convert
Speaker 1: one in that game on a pass too camp break.
Speaker 1: By the way, I went to point out the very
Speaker 1: top of this that we are fun. We're sailing solo
Speaker 1: again for another week. And last week that was on
Speaker 1: on purpose because the schedule was so compressed. This week
Speaker 1: we just got caught up a little bit. The schedule
Speaker 1: changed because of testing changes. Players now get tested on
Speaker 1: game day, which means they can come back in the
Speaker 1: building on Monday, so they're so the Bucks are going
Speaker 1: back to the normal NFL routine of getting their players
Speaker 1: in on Monday, giving them treatment, breaking down the film,
Speaker 1: then giving them Tuesday off, then coming back on Wednesday
Speaker 1: to start the new week. This week is a little
Speaker 1: bit different because we got a bonus practice song Tuesday.
Speaker 1: But anyway, the whole schedule got mixed around, and then
Speaker 1: today got mixed around a little bit. We thought we
Speaker 1: had a guest lined up. It didn't work out, and
Speaker 1: rather than ask somebody at short notice, we're like, okay,
Speaker 1: well we'll just get We'll just we'll just have to
Speaker 1: be better at our jobs, very obtaining. We have to
Speaker 1: be on our a game. So did you have something
Speaker 1: more to say about the third downs? Those sounds like
Speaker 1: you're about no. I just it was just frustrating. I
Speaker 1: just thought it was very, very frustrating in game. You know,
Speaker 1: it was there for the taking, as they say, and
Speaker 1: and you know what, Chicago deserves credit because they did
Speaker 1: what they needed to do to get to to get
Speaker 1: it done, you know. And so but it's like you said,
Speaker 1: you're gonna go back, and you look at it, and
Speaker 1: as time goes on, you look at the games that
Speaker 1: you think you should have capitalized on and you and
Speaker 1: you didn't and that and it's not just us saying, um,
Speaker 1: the team kind of hurt themselves more than than the
Speaker 1: Bears did. I mean, nationally, Yeah, everybody's been talking about
Speaker 1: the players are saying it, but also other people viewing
Speaker 1: it or like, but I will say Chicago. Um, I
Speaker 1: don't know who it was, but someone what do they
Speaker 1: four and one? Now someone's I don't know, they're the
Speaker 1: worst four and one team in the league. You always
Speaker 1: hear that, but you go, you know what, you know,
Speaker 1: you know, give them credit. E they're getting it. They
Speaker 1: made a quarterback change. It seemed to be the right
Speaker 1: thing to do. When they needed to make the play,
Speaker 1: they made the play. Um, when they need to make
Speaker 1: a defensive stop, they made the defensive stop. So it's
Speaker 1: their win, it's their w I guess it's I don't
Speaker 1: know if it's on the same level. But last year
Speaker 1: the Packers win thirteen three and people were calling them
Speaker 1: the worst thirteen and three team ever. They made it
Speaker 1: to the NFC Championship, and now there are four or oh,
Speaker 1: and they look fantastic, Like maybe they were actually good
Speaker 1: and it's hard to get to thirteen and three without
Speaker 1: being really good. Yeah, there's some teams you just like
Speaker 1: to hate on, you know. I mean, I don't like
Speaker 1: the Bears. Well it's just say perfect example. Well, I'm
Speaker 1: from St. Louis, so um there there is that and
Speaker 1: soldier field and we all both know people who are
Speaker 1: rooting for the Bears. Who happened keep reminding you do?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, actually you know all right then and there
Speaker 1: and so you just kind of you know, Grin and
Speaker 1: Barrett no pun intended. Yeah, okay, I'm glad that's over.
Speaker 1: So back to yes, how do you respond? How do
Speaker 1: you fill that void? You can't. You don't have another view,
Speaker 1: Joe Man, So you just you can you get a
Speaker 1: variety of guys to step up. I don't think it's
Speaker 1: gonna be one guy and he and if you don't know,
Speaker 1: Nacho refers to over Keim Newonias roaches and I also
Speaker 1: think it. I think other guys you know you, you say,
Speaker 1: the guy you know not you has to come in.
Speaker 1: He has to step up. But I also I also
Speaker 1: think the guys around him have to. You know, they're
Speaker 1: playing a certain game with vitav in there. Now their
Speaker 1: game kind of changes a little bit. Yeah, it depends
Speaker 1: on how well. I don't think that the Bucks approach
Speaker 1: on defense will change the last Nacho to try to
Speaker 1: do the same stuff that Vida was doing as much
Speaker 1: as possible. But if he can't keep blockers multiple blockers
Speaker 1: off as well as Vita does, because hardly anybody can.
Speaker 1: That's why he's nat was having a fantastic training camp.
Speaker 1: One of the he was one of the biggest buzzes
Speaker 1: of all the camp, and some of the defenders are clearly,
Speaker 1: even though they hate how it happened, clearly decided he's
Speaker 1: gonna get a chance to show what he can do.
Speaker 1: So we'll see, uh, and maybe everything will be just
Speaker 1: as good as close to it. But let's just say
Speaker 1: there's some more blockers and a free because they don't
Speaker 1: have a Vita be in there to hold up one
Speaker 1: guy with one arm and one with the other arm. Uh. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I could change it, could change the game for the
Speaker 1: linebackers a little bit, and they may have to work
Speaker 1: their way off blocks a little bit more. I don't know,
Speaker 1: we'll see. Yeah, well, it's definitely a great test. I mean,
Speaker 1: you're gonna find out real quick how good, how good
Speaker 1: it is. I think last week I asked you did
Speaker 1: you know who? And this is true anymore, but at
Speaker 1: the time who led led the team in receiving arts
Speaker 1: and you surprise me by knowing it Scotty Miller because
Speaker 1: I thought that was a little bit of a tricky question.
Speaker 1: Do you know who leads the team in quarterback hits
Speaker 1: right now? No? No, I was wondering if you could
Speaker 1: go for two for two. Will Goldston, who you do
Speaker 1: not tend to think of as a pass rusher, he's
Speaker 1: got seven. That's the most of anybody on the team,
Speaker 1: more than j PP. He's been quietly making a lot
Speaker 1: of impact in the backfield. And that's in that's even
Speaker 1: though his role really isn't that's not really his role.
Speaker 1: It wasn't. Maybe we'll be more now because you go
Speaker 1: into your sub packages. You know, in our base you
Speaker 1: have three down linemen Vita b In and in Tomming, Gun,
Speaker 1: Sue and well Ghoston. You go into a sub package
Speaker 1: with five defensive backs and it's a lot more like
Speaker 1: a four or three front, and you only have two
Speaker 1: down linemen in the middle, and it's more often been
Speaker 1: Sue and Ya. But maybe we'll will play a little
Speaker 1: bit more in there now, uh and get more chances
Speaker 1: to rush the pastor and uh. That will be interesting
Speaker 1: to see. Yeah, it'll be fun to see too what
Speaker 1: what Todd Bowles does with um with the defense if
Speaker 1: he changes it up a little bit like you just said, no,
Speaker 1: you didn't think, I don't think. I don't think it'll
Speaker 1: be drastically unless unless, unless you're not getting the results.
Speaker 1: I think you try to do the same thing. I
Speaker 1: gotta turn them loose, and if you get the results, great.
Speaker 1: If you're not, then you have to make adjustments. Maybe
Speaker 1: you have to blitz more. Although he already is one
Speaker 1: of the most aggressive blitzers out there, I don't know
Speaker 1: how much more you can blitz. But been on a
Speaker 1: game to game basis. To be honest with you, here's
Speaker 1: another thing I found interesting in that UM Chicago game,
Speaker 1: and it was actually a good moment um. I think
Speaker 1: it was the second quarter, fourth and one at our
Speaker 1: own nineteen, and Bruce went for it. I liked it. Oh,
Speaker 1: I loved it. I need it. But we we had
Speaker 1: another fourth and short and we didn't go for it.
Speaker 1: Correct or I don't actually recall that this was fourth
Speaker 1: and inches and you have Tom Brady, who's proven throughout
Speaker 1: his career quarter he can make that play work. So
Speaker 1: I understand it's such. It's just something you don't see.
Speaker 1: And I want to tell you how rare this is
Speaker 1: because I looked it up uh on a site that
Speaker 1: the Pro Football Reference. Unfortunately, their database only goes back
Speaker 1: to still since all across the NFL, there have only
Speaker 1: been twenty times that teams have gone for it on
Speaker 1: fourth and one from inside their own twenty yard line.
Speaker 1: Twenty times and then what's that six years quarter of
Speaker 1: a century, so less than one time a year. Really, yes,
Speaker 1: but it gets better because most of the there's more Okay,
Speaker 1: if you're losing, if you're losing, if you're a fourth
Speaker 1: of one at your own nineteen in the fourth quarter
Speaker 1: with three minutes left and you're losing, it's not a
Speaker 1: crazy thing to go for it there because it's like,
Speaker 1: if we don't go for it, we don't get the
Speaker 1: ball back. That's not a crazy decision going for it
Speaker 1: when you have the lead in the first half. How
Speaker 1: many times does that happen? Three? This is the third
Speaker 1: time since that a coach has gone for it in
Speaker 1: the first half with his team winning, and they all worked.
Speaker 1: By the way they all worked well fourth and inches,
Speaker 1: you would think you should be able to get there.
Speaker 1: It worked. Out of twenty times that teams have done
Speaker 1: this since then, it's worked twelve times. But really it's
Speaker 1: told on eighteen because one of those was one where
Speaker 1: the punter on took the ball and they just took
Speaker 1: it a safety on purpose so that they could free
Speaker 1: kick with hardly any time left. And another one was
Speaker 1: when the quarterback kneeled in a tie game with one
Speaker 1: second left, so instead of punting and risking getting getting
Speaker 1: a block. So really, twelve out of eighteen times it's
Speaker 1: worked all three times when the coach has done it
Speaker 1: when leading in the first half. And that's what I
Speaker 1: found crazy about it, that that makes a much more
Speaker 1: bold decision because we've already got the lead. He really
Speaker 1: wanted dead biscuit. No, we're just getting no biscuit. So
Speaker 1: he um. I think that's what the analytics would tell
Speaker 1: you to do, but coaches still aren't doing it in
Speaker 1: that drastic of a situation because one of the one
Speaker 1: argument against it, Jeff is yeah, if you go for
Speaker 1: it and fourth and one, I see you did bring
Speaker 1: your phone in this time. If you go for it
Speaker 1: now I'm looking I'm actually looking at the re quarter
Speaker 1: of my phones over here, remember, and it's and it's dark.
Speaker 1: You did remember the recording? Yeah, that's what I was
Speaker 1: looking at to see if it was clicking because I
Speaker 1: was gonna go, how am I gonna tell Scott? Movie
Speaker 1: are good? I lost my tryan thought, oh okay, so
Speaker 1: you go for it and fourth and one and you
Speaker 1: make it. Okay, So now you're at like the twenty one.
Speaker 1: You're still a long way away. The drive could still
Speaker 1: three plays later and then you then you might look
Speaker 1: back and goal. Is that Gambell really worth it? But
Speaker 1: I think it is because I think what the analyts
Speaker 1: say is you're trying to steal as many possessions as possible,
Speaker 1: and by not punting it away there, you're basically stealing
Speaker 1: a possession. And if you can do that, maybe it
Speaker 1: wouldn't have worked this time. It did. We got a
Speaker 1: field goal. Maybe it wouldn't have worked this time. But
Speaker 1: if you do it all the times you should do it,
Speaker 1: it will work overall. Even I mean, it did work
Speaker 1: in terms of getting not getting stuck down there, but
Speaker 1: it could have not worked in terms of leading to
Speaker 1: a scoring drive. But in this case it did, so
Speaker 1: good stuff. I did a little research, did a little research.
Speaker 1: That's as far back as it went. I would have
Speaker 1: gone further. Well, that's still pretty far back. You know,
Speaker 1: it doesn't sound like it, but when you start adding up,
Speaker 1: you go twenty six years away smoked. So all those
Speaker 1: roster moves that we made, Um, we're sitting here right
Speaker 1: now on a Wednesday with a game on Sunday, and
Speaker 1: we have fifty two players on our fifty three man
Speaker 1: roster and fifteen of sixteen on the practice squad, which
Speaker 1: in previous years, leaving spots open in the middle of practice.
Speaker 1: You would just never do gonna break a story here
Speaker 1: or something. No, not at all. I would just say
Speaker 1: that it's just a sign of the times because with
Speaker 1: the sixteen man practice squads and a lot of movement
Speaker 1: up and down. Um, you're already we've got sixty eight
Speaker 1: players here, so we could go up to I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: sixty seven. We could go all the way up to
Speaker 1: sixty nine, but we're only gonna have fifty eight of
Speaker 1: them active on game day anyway. I mean, you don't
Speaker 1: really have to make sure that your fifty third spot.
Speaker 1: And it's hard to bring players in. That's true too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're in the process of doing something because it takes
Speaker 1: seventy two hours to get a player to come in
Speaker 1: because you have to test negative for three straight days.
Speaker 1: That's a very good point. It also could be that
Speaker 1: we are contemplating um promoting somebody from the practice squad
Speaker 1: to the active roster before the game. But we're thinking, man,
Speaker 1: we're not sure yet if we're gonna need another receiver
Speaker 1: or another running back or another defensive lineman, because we're
Speaker 1: not sure where Chris Godwin is right now, and we
Speaker 1: should find out more tomorrow. This is this We're recording
Speaker 1: this on Wednesday, and Bruce arians said at the beginning
Speaker 1: of the week that he felt there was a good
Speaker 1: chance that all those guys will be back on the
Speaker 1: practice field. I think they all have a shot. Maybe
Speaker 1: Lashawn might be the farthest away, but Leonard for Nette
Speaker 1: could be back, which would that would help, sure would
Speaker 1: would would free it up a little bit from what
Speaker 1: Rod Joe, who's playing well, but different type of different
Speaker 1: style of running. Mix it up. Roach is doing a
Speaker 1: good job. He's getting some options to he's making some
Speaker 1: nice moves in the open field. He's getting some opportunities
Speaker 1: to be in the open field because like I said,
Speaker 1: I think the offensive line is doing a pretty good
Speaker 1: job and he's seeing the hole. He is but he's
Speaker 1: doing better then the stats suggest he should you know
Speaker 1: what next gin stats are, okay, And so all those
Speaker 1: players are wearing trackers, so they the data they produce
Speaker 1: out of that is incredible. So every single player, every
Speaker 1: movement makes how fast he's going, where he's on the field,
Speaker 1: what direction he's headed in his track at all times,
Speaker 1: and then these stat services can compile that data in
Speaker 1: any number of ways. And one is to look at
Speaker 1: where all the defenders are and where all the other
Speaker 1: ten offensive players are other than the running back, and
Speaker 1: how fast they're moving in what direction they're moving at
Speaker 1: the point where they were running back gets the ball
Speaker 1: and from that get a picture of what they think
Speaker 1: the running backs should be able to get out of it,
Speaker 1: and that would be the expected yards on that play.
Speaker 1: If you get more than that, then you're at plus
Speaker 1: of expected yards and that means you did something good.
Speaker 1: Ronald Jones was plus forty one in that game, and
Speaker 1: he's plus ninety seven on the season, which is the
Speaker 1: third best of all running backs in the league. So
Speaker 1: it's a little hard to understand everything that goes into that,
Speaker 1: but if you just take it at face value, it
Speaker 1: means he's he's good playing well, yes, he's he's improved
Speaker 1: from last year. Running back of of average caliber would
Speaker 1: not have gotten as many yards as Ronald Jones did
Speaker 1: basically what that stat says. So that's pretty cool. Yeah,
Speaker 1: stats are fun if anything else. Ah yeah, the elephant
Speaker 1: in the room, the all the games moving around and
Speaker 1: actual fourth down or was it third down? Was it
Speaker 1: third down? It was a fourth down? That is the elephant,
Speaker 1: and you need I was trying really hard to ignore that. Well,
Speaker 1: I I I thought about it, and I went no
Speaker 1: where the salty dogs? You do you? I think I
Speaker 1: think he thought it was you know, this is just
Speaker 1: my opinion seeing the game, watching the game, looking at it.
Speaker 1: I think he thought it was third down for whatever reason,
Speaker 1: and it just happened. And if it had been third down,
Speaker 1: he would have chosen a well, I think no, if
Speaker 1: it was third down, he because he was thinking it
Speaker 1: was third down. That's why he took the chance on
Speaker 1: the passing through. If yes, if he thought it was
Speaker 1: fourth if he was going to fourth down, then he
Speaker 1: probably would have taken the check down. You know, But
Speaker 1: was there an there was supposed supposedly there was an
Speaker 1: open um um for the first down. He should have
Speaker 1: gone for the first down rather than for the field
Speaker 1: goal um yardage because where Cam was, if Cam was
Speaker 1: able to catch that ball, they would have been in
Speaker 1: field goal range right there. So but no guarantee he
Speaker 1: would have made that decision any way, even if he
Speaker 1: knew it was the Wow, that's true. That's that's very true.
Speaker 1: That's very true. And um, I I will say this,
Speaker 1: I like Tom Brady's uh sense of humor or, at
Speaker 1: least his um his ability to look at himself and say, hey,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm human when uh, the Lakers one, he
Speaker 1: did the uh the photo he photo shopped Lebron You
Speaker 1: didn't see it. He photoshopped Lebron James's head on his
Speaker 1: body with four and said, congratulations on your fourth championship,
Speaker 1: old man. You didn't see that. Has he really only
Speaker 1: won four? I think that's something? Yeah, fo, yeah he
Speaker 1: won one in Cleveland. Did they win too in Miami? Okay?
Speaker 1: Did they? I know that at least went one they
Speaker 1: won in Cleveland, and that so either or But anyways, UM,
Speaker 1: it was pretty funny. You need to you need to
Speaker 1: google it and look at I don't follow the NBA
Speaker 1: quite enough to know I don't either. I just have
Speaker 1: touse to see it because it was Tom Brady, and
Speaker 1: Tom Brady tweetered, you don't follow Tom Brady? Yes I do,
Speaker 1: but do you have him on notifications? Because I don't
Speaker 1: have enough game. There are times when I don't pay
Speaker 1: him attention to a period. Yeah, well there's that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: plus all the other things I'm not And they're on
Speaker 1: Twitter nine stuff. They know everything as soon as it happens.
Speaker 1: It's part of their communication, which is fine. But sure
Speaker 1: we're past that, Jeff, I guess a couple of times.
Speaker 1: But I did appreciate that, and I and I that
Speaker 1: is not the reason why that game was was lost. However,
Speaker 1: at a minute and thirteen seconds left on the clock
Speaker 1: and you give the ball to Tom Brady and all
Speaker 1: you need is a field goal, I thought, for sure
Speaker 1: this is this is this is gonna be this is
Speaker 1: gonna be awesome, which brings up an interesting point in
Speaker 1: that he's the all time leader and come back winning
Speaker 1: guys marching John, which is why you believed it, and
Speaker 1: so did I remember at that moment, I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is why we have Tom Brady, but surely this
Speaker 1: is I know it isn't the first time he's he's
Speaker 1: been in a situation and not won the game. He
Speaker 1: just wins them at a higher rate than most people
Speaker 1: would and it and and the thing was and and
Speaker 1: this is it. If for whatever reason, if he never
Speaker 1: held his hand up with four, you know, if he
Speaker 1: just said and it didn't say yeah. But but it's
Speaker 1: immediate now. Whether he knew it was third or fourth down,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just know that it was fourth down.
Speaker 1: Whether what his thought process, I have no idea. I
Speaker 1: did too, because I remember the feeling suzes over. I
Speaker 1: just got up and took my computer. Yes you did,
Speaker 1: you did leave very quickly, yes, But um, but that
Speaker 1: being said, we barnched forward. I was just talking about
Speaker 1: how I got up where I was working for the
Speaker 1: road game. Because if anybody's listening to this podcast, I
Speaker 1: know that you and I are not traveling this year
Speaker 1: for obvious reasons, and um, which breaks very very long
Speaker 1: strings for both of us. But it is what it is.
Speaker 1: And you are directing the radio broadcast from the control
Speaker 1: booth at Raymond James Stadium when we're on the road,
Speaker 1: and because you have extra feeds, and and just it's
Speaker 1: nice to be around some people I've chosen to work
Speaker 1: there as well on road games, and I just want
Speaker 1: to say, pull them back the curtain a little bit.
Speaker 1: It's kind of it's kind of fun watching you direct
Speaker 1: a radio broadcast. I mean, I didn't think you were
Speaker 1: good at anything with you, and you were really good
Speaker 1: at directing that broadcast. I'm impressed waying all the balls
Speaker 1: you have in the air at once, and and just
Speaker 1: how you keep it moving. Okay, we're gonna be back
Speaker 1: at thirty seconds. Make sure you get this in, make
Speaker 1: sure you get this in, and blah blah blah. It's
Speaker 1: pretty cool. And the other good thing about it is
Speaker 1: you have the mic situated some way and that you
Speaker 1: can't pick up whatever. Well, it's funny because you always say, gosh,
Speaker 1: you know, can you hear us? Know? We're very their
Speaker 1: Their microphones are like what we have on right now,
Speaker 1: very very directional. You're not picking up you're not picking
Speaker 1: up that other stuff. It's a good thing because my
Speaker 1: language got a little salty. Well yeah, sometimes my language
Speaker 1: gets a little salty too, And I appreciate you not
Speaker 1: mentioning that, but yes, uh it is. Um it's it's
Speaker 1: a different. Um, it's a different It can't be. It
Speaker 1: can't be easy to do. It can't be easy, period,
Speaker 1: but to do it from where you're doing it, and
Speaker 1: it seems like, well, it has gone really really well,
Speaker 1: and I'm really proud of their team, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: really proud of the guys and and and the girls
Speaker 1: that are working and getting it done. And and um,
Speaker 1: I will say, uh, it's weird because like we're gonna
Speaker 1: be home this week, and there is an adjustment when
Speaker 1: all of a sudden it's live. And that's when I
Speaker 1: noticed the difference, because there's just so much more you
Speaker 1: see when you're live at a game, You're you're looking
Speaker 1: at the bench more, You're just there's just so many things.
Speaker 1: And when you're doing it the way we're doing it,
Speaker 1: even though we're getting more feeds than anybody else, and
Speaker 1: I say, thanks to the NFL and the Competition Committee
Speaker 1: for allowing us to have some feeds that that aren't
Speaker 1: going anywhere else. UM has made it, has made it
Speaker 1: so that we can pull it off. Most people can't
Speaker 1: tell the difference whether we're there or not. So yeah,
Speaker 1: but you're being transparent about it. I'm not trying to
Speaker 1: fool Oh no, no, we're not trying to fool anybody,
Speaker 1: not at all, not at all, but um, it is
Speaker 1: it is going to be um kind of fun. I
Speaker 1: mean we had a night game and um we're falling
Speaker 1: into that. Jeez, you know we you know, yeah, and
Speaker 1: we're talking about previously that the schedule kept. You know,
Speaker 1: how the football schedule changes on US football is gonna
Speaker 1: schedule change again because night game week is different? Well yeah,
Speaker 1: but I mean, how's he treating Vegas? They go to Vegas,
Speaker 1: they play a game, you know, players, so the players
Speaker 1: coming in on Monday and then Tuesday off or how's
Speaker 1: he gonna work that because you have the Monday so
Speaker 1: you know, again, we're gonna have a schedule weeks m
Speaker 1: hmm and even four games you know. That's that's uh,
Speaker 1: that's still a late game. We don't have another one.
Speaker 1: Oclock came until what November? No, Yeah, Carolina in Carolina. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's it's it's a Carolina game, which which I
Speaker 1: don't know whether we'll go or not because it's close.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just kind of like just going
Speaker 1: with it. I asked every week, Hey are we traveling? No, Okay,
Speaker 1: I gotta ask. I think I think the party has
Speaker 1: become more restricted, not less. Well, that's that's it, you know.
Speaker 1: And and you know a lot of people think I
Speaker 1: kid when I say wear a mask, But if you
Speaker 1: like football and you like sports, just wear a mask.
Speaker 1: I mean, well, well, hey, you know a perfect example.
Speaker 1: We're in the state of Florida and you know, um,
Speaker 1: the Gators were all excited. They wanted to put tons
Speaker 1: of people in their in their stadium. And guess what
Speaker 1: that Gator L s U game just got moved, which
Speaker 1: are postponed. Yeah, I location, no, they moved date, they
Speaker 1: moved the data, which is sad. Which is sad. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of people looking forward to that game. I've listen.
Speaker 1: I enjoy sports just like anybody else, and I wanted
Speaker 1: to keep it going. Speaking of which, the Saints thinking
Speaker 1: about playing at L s U. Yeah, we've been there.
Speaker 1: And and if you don't know, the reason for that
Speaker 1: is that there's no national um policy of how to
Speaker 1: deal with COVID nineteen. So each state, municipality, city county
Speaker 1: all have their own rules. And the City of New
Speaker 1: Orleans is not allowing large gatherings. So that's kind of
Speaker 1: thinking about so they can have some fans. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think they were allowed to have. Yeah, well that's probably
Speaker 1: a really big stadium. Well yeah, now it's like a
Speaker 1: ten whatever. When we remember we were there, they were
Speaker 1: like under construction after Katrina, and that's why we were there.
Speaker 1: Barbara at three picksh gosh, those guys used to terrorize
Speaker 1: Aaron Brooks remember that. Yes, Simeon Rice used sack Aaron
Speaker 1: Brooks three times a game. Rodney Barber picked him off
Speaker 1: a tounch of time. It's crazy. Since then, did Bucks
Speaker 1: haven't had much luck coming up against non great quarterbacks
Speaker 1: in this division. I mean, the Saints have had Drew
Speaker 1: Brees ever since the next year. The Falcons have had
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan forever. The Panthers had Cam Newton for a
Speaker 1: long time. Not to mention Jake to Alone, who used
Speaker 1: to have our numbers? Oh Jake? Yeah uh. And he
Speaker 1: played for Carolina to which which was crazy. Played for
Speaker 1: his Saints and Carolin. Yeah, he barely played for the Saints.
Speaker 1: He completed one pass against us on a third down
Speaker 1: after somebody got hurt. There has a quarterback um in Minnesota.
Speaker 1: He was a backup and we made him a superstar.
Speaker 1: Every co Wade Wilson, Yes, yes, you remember that. I
Speaker 1: was some of that was even before my time. But
Speaker 1: I could see in the record books his name keeps
Speaker 1: popping up and like Wade Wilson, Yeah, I've always killed us. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And it was like we were in like we're any
Speaker 1: time we played Chicago. I think a Tom Waddle a
Speaker 1: tight end. He was a buck killer too. I thought
Speaker 1: he was a receiver. I think he's a tight end.
Speaker 1: I mean the name sounds like no, no, I got it.
Speaker 1: I know he's in radio now. The name sounds more
Speaker 1: like a tight end than the receiver. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: I remember that that there was a time Waddle I
Speaker 1: thought he was a receiver. Well, let's find out the
Speaker 1: the modern day Wade Wilson is case Keenum. Whenever we
Speaker 1: run into case yeah are yeah, yeah, yep. They for
Speaker 1: the Bears attended Cain's been his entire season with the Bears,
Speaker 1: but they didn''t know. I'm sorry. You were right. He
Speaker 1: was a wide receiver. I thought he was a tight end.
Speaker 1: Was that I was? I was correct? Again? You finally
Speaker 1: were right? You finally you and a broken clock? All right,
Speaker 1: so you covered your elephant in the room. Are you
Speaker 1: satisfied now then? Yeah? But I'm surprised you didn't bring
Speaker 1: it up. I mean, you know, I didn't want to
Speaker 1: talk about it. I understand, but I want to talk.
Speaker 1: I want everyone to know. I'm like the teenager who
Speaker 1: doesn't want to talk about the topic that his parents
Speaker 1: want to talk about, which just pretty much every topic.
Speaker 1: Did Alex do something wrong at home? No, Alex never
Speaker 1: does anything wrong. I mean he's he's a good kid. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's Hey, did he pitch at all anymore? They they haven't,
Speaker 1: so they're just practicing. Okay, but he's applying to some
Speaker 1: pretty impressive school. Yes, I know. I'm excited about that.
Speaker 1: We'll update once he gets enough about. His name, by
Speaker 1: the way, is Alex Smith. So uh, he's probably the
Speaker 1: third most famous Alex Smith. He could become in around
Speaker 1: the NFL. He could become the most famous Alex Smith
Speaker 1: before this is over with. Okay, Um, we're obviously, like
Speaker 1: we said, we don't have a guest, so we're gonna go.
Speaker 1: We don't we need to need a break, right, No,
Speaker 1: we'll just go straight into the now. Were already roll
Speaker 1: thirty three minutes. Okay, Well, I got some pretty good questions.
Speaker 1: I'm I feel good about this. Uh, here's the first one. Hey,
Speaker 1: salty Dogs, tough loss to the Bears. I live in
Speaker 1: Indiana and here all the trash talk from old Bear fans.
Speaker 1: That sounds terrible. Yeah. I have two questions for you.
Speaker 1: What is Aaron Rodgers record against the Bucks in Tampa? Mhm, Okay,
Speaker 1: let's do that one. Um, he's two and two overall,
Speaker 1: So I think it's oh and two in Tampa, because, Uh,
Speaker 1: I don't believe we beat him in Green Bay. I
Speaker 1: don't think we've won in Green Bay since two thousand
Speaker 1: and five. Uh, And he didn't wasn't starting until two
Speaker 1: thousand and eight. We beat him in two thousand and nine,
Speaker 1: Jeff in the UM that was the game in which
Speaker 1: um was that Josh Freeman's first start. Yeah, in the throwbacks.
Speaker 1: I think we had to pick six in that game. Uh.
Speaker 1: And then we beat him again maybe the very next year. Um,
Speaker 1: but they've won the last two. No, it wouldn't have
Speaker 1: been the next year. I don't know it's two, and
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's two and oh against
Speaker 1: Rogers here in Tampa. But that means nothing. No, that
Speaker 1: means nothing whatsoever. But it's a good question. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: this one might take a little longer. Who would be
Speaker 1: your bucks mount Rushmore of players? Picking just four would
Speaker 1: be tough. So maybe Mountain rush four of offense and
Speaker 1: defense of all time? You get this thing. You've seen
Speaker 1: this thing for right, somebody'll do amount rushmore of this
Speaker 1: or that which means your four best. I've actually done
Speaker 1: this before. It was quite some years ago and I
Speaker 1: was tasked with that, and you can it's hard not
Speaker 1: to make it all defense. That's the problem. And I
Speaker 1: don't know how you cannot start if you're doing the
Speaker 1: full team, how can you not start? You have three
Speaker 1: guys on the Hall of Fame, so they have to
Speaker 1: be there, right, Orn sapp Leroy Selman, Derek Brooks. So
Speaker 1: who's your fourth by most stats by a thing called
Speaker 1: um A V which is sort of an all encompassing
Speaker 1: stat of how much they contributed to the franchise. It's
Speaker 1: probably Rande Barber. He's probably the fourth best player in
Speaker 1: team Street. John Lynch, you probably think of as a
Speaker 1: possibility there, right, I think that's where you would start.
Speaker 1: But when I happened to do this article, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I know I could say that, but I think that
Speaker 1: the mount Rushmore of an entire team should have at
Speaker 1: least one one offensive player on it. I would say
Speaker 1: just like that. I would say, because he's one of
Speaker 1: the most popular offensive players, and that would Michael's who
Speaker 1: I chose. I mean, he's got accomplishments to six Pro Bowls,
Speaker 1: and he's the all time touchdown leader, which is probably
Speaker 1: the most important thing. He's I think, our third leading rusher.
Speaker 1: He's up there in receptions and as you said, everybody
Speaker 1: loved him and still does so I think that would
Speaker 1: be the choice I would have to I I would
Speaker 1: have to agree with that because, like Evans is working
Speaker 1: his way there though. But there is something, there is
Speaker 1: something Um when you think about that, It's not only Um.
Speaker 1: There was just there was just a connection with the
Speaker 1: fans and Mike. I. I don't know if it's because
Speaker 1: the fans felt like he was one of them, you know,
Speaker 1: hard working, unch of blue collar you know, no airs,
Speaker 1: just a guy that you know, went and did his job.
Speaker 1: Um had some pretty fantastic runs. It's just you know,
Speaker 1: when you needed it, uh, you know, a part of
Speaker 1: the greatest call that Jane has up the gut, you know,
Speaker 1: with up the gut, I mean he just I mean,
Speaker 1: I I just sitting here, I'm thinking about when we
Speaker 1: were in Minnesota at the Metrodome where, um, you know,
Speaker 1: Mike bounced off like three or four people into the
Speaker 1: ends and went down the line. Yeah, he went down
Speaker 1: the line. He ended up going in backwards on that one.
Speaker 1: Was it against Cleveland that he like blew away eight
Speaker 1: players or something like it was? It was the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl year, Um, it was in It was here in Tampa. Uh.
Speaker 1: One of the big storylines of the early part of
Speaker 1: that season. Bucks were playing well here was something like
Speaker 1: four and one or five and one. But Mike All
Speaker 1: said Gruden wasn't using Mike also very much and that
Speaker 1: was a big So I think Gruden was a big
Speaker 1: Oh here you go, because he threw he ran him
Speaker 1: a ton in that game and he had like a
Speaker 1: hundred forty yards um. But yeah, on one play it
Speaker 1: was it was about a twenty yard run and he's
Speaker 1: just bouncing off one guy afternoon and I think he
Speaker 1: made contact with nine different defenders. And they played the
Speaker 1: replay on the board and you know, it's a slow
Speaker 1: download bit and you see and the crowd starts going
Speaker 1: like making the hudding noises every time he runs into
Speaker 1: a guy. And uh that one thing I like about
Speaker 1: that highlight is it highlights as highlights do. Um. One
Speaker 1: thing that I think you have to understand about what
Speaker 1: made Michael Staid so good was that he had incredible
Speaker 1: balance for his size, and so there were there was
Speaker 1: a spot, there was a time and it's not the
Speaker 1: only time it happened in his career where he was
Speaker 1: actually going look like he was going down and he
Speaker 1: got hit by a guy and he kind of used
Speaker 1: it to get back on his feet, like A yeah,
Speaker 1: pretty impressive. Is it pretty very very much so, but
Speaker 1: I think that was part of it. And and so
Speaker 1: I like your Mount rushmore. I like it. If you
Speaker 1: had to do we just do real quickly. If you
Speaker 1: had to do one on offense and one on defense,
Speaker 1: I think we already said the defense one. You'd have
Speaker 1: to choose between Ronde and John Lynch for the fourth spot.
Speaker 1: I think I'd probably choose Ronde. And that's no offense
Speaker 1: to John Lynch. But Rande was here a lot longer, um,
Speaker 1: and it's hard not to include the guy who's your
Speaker 1: all time leader in games play games started in interceptions
Speaker 1: and he played his whole career here, So you know
Speaker 1: that you gotta give credit for that. All time offense
Speaker 1: is a lot tougher. Obviously, we'll start with I think
Speaker 1: Mike Evans is there already. Yeah, Mike could be there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's our all time leader in virtually every receiving category.
Speaker 1: I think I think Mike Evans will be there once
Speaker 1: this team gets into the playoffs. Oh man, he's already there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's your all time leader easily in every receiving category.
Speaker 1: And before you know it, probably within the next two seasons,
Speaker 1: he's gonna Do you think most people know that? Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: it's just curious. I wrote about it in mailbag for tomorrow. Okay, well,
Speaker 1: then they will know about it. He's he's at fifty
Speaker 1: five touchdowns now, that's only sixteen behind Mike, So you
Speaker 1: got a long way to go. He's gonna get there,
Speaker 1: and then they'll be your all time touchdown leader too.
Speaker 1: He's he's definitely. I think i'd put Paul Gruber in there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a good one. That's a very good one. And
Speaker 1: then it's getting lunch. The other lunch pal guy, well,
Speaker 1: a guy that really never got the he did he
Speaker 1: never went to a Pro Bowl. You didn't get the
Speaker 1: recognition last getting the last game of the last game
Speaker 1: he ever played was in Chicago where his leg was broken.
Speaker 1: Line didn't get to play in that ye nine, Yeah,
Speaker 1: then did didn't get to play there? Then? Yep? Uh
Speaker 1: what else? I mean Jimmy Giles for the time, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and and the way tight ends were that weren't utilized
Speaker 1: as much, you know, that was That's that Fred Johnson
Speaker 1: and which quarterback do you put a quarterback on there?
Speaker 1: I mean it's hard to play well, you know, it's
Speaker 1: it's it's yeah, because he's the only guy that has
Speaker 1: won a Super Bowl for this team. Doug Williams well,
Speaker 1: and then there's that too. But I think I think,
Speaker 1: you know, Doug played really well when he was with us,
Speaker 1: but I think, what, uh, you know, when you look
Speaker 1: at that that period of time and then you know,
Speaker 1: he goes to the USFL and does really well and
Speaker 1: then he goes to Washington and you know, people forget
Speaker 1: he was the backup in Washington and when he won
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. So um, but uh, yeah, you would
Speaker 1: have to kind of think about that that, you know,
Speaker 1: I think all stud Evans, Gruber and Giles is where
Speaker 1: I'd probably got with that. M h I've got others
Speaker 1: that I like more. Maybe work done. I'm a big
Speaker 1: fan of Joey Galloway, Vincent Jackson. Numbers are really good. Um,
Speaker 1: there's some really good players that have passed through here.
Speaker 1: You forget about it. It's just that it's hard. It's
Speaker 1: not like four separated. I mean, if you were doing
Speaker 1: this for the Cowboys, you know a lot. Troy Eigman's
Speaker 1: a lot, Michael Irvin. You know what I'm saying. Some
Speaker 1: teams this will be a lot EASU. But yeah, all right,
Speaker 1: but that's good. I like. Okay, next question, Hey, s Dogs,
Speaker 1: Rojoe had another great game. He's starting to remind me
Speaker 1: of another awesome Buck who wore twenty seven. Legarrett Blunt.
Speaker 1: He's big, he's tough, and he's a downhill runner. Keep
Speaker 1: up the good podcasts. Phil Squadron, longtime Bucks fan, Orange County, California.
Speaker 1: I actually know I know who this is. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: has a huge Bucks fan. I actually didn't know or
Speaker 1: remember that he's in California. He's actually he's actually fun
Speaker 1: to follow on Twitter. Um. I think he's a writer
Speaker 1: and a teacher. Uh uh yeah, I don't know. La
Speaker 1: Garrett Blunt and he's not that big. No, no, but
Speaker 1: I mean I was trying to figure out how he
Speaker 1: was getting the La Garrett blunt part. They both wore
Speaker 1: number twenty seven. Yeah, yeah, but La Garrett, I don't
Speaker 1: I don't see this. I don't see their styles the same.
Speaker 1: La Garrett was more of a break a tackle break,
Speaker 1: run you over and just keep going or jump over you, sorry,
Speaker 1: jump over you. Arizona game. Yes, I remember that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he does have he he had some pretty spectacular plays.
Speaker 1: I think Bron Jones might be a little shift here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but yeah, but yeah, okay, interesting and it actually wasn't
Speaker 1: a question as I look at it now. Sure it's
Speaker 1: fire a statement, but I appreciate you listening and taking
Speaker 1: the time to shoot us an email. All right, right, hey,
Speaker 1: Jeff Dogg and Scott Dogg, that's all right. I think
Speaker 1: he's trying. I liked and wanted you just be salty.
Speaker 1: Obviously we're all seen you know what. I didn't say
Speaker 1: the name of the first guy. The first question was
Speaker 1: from a Justin Whittaker. Uh, this one is obviously we're
Speaker 1: all seeing these games being shuffle. I'll shovel around on
Speaker 1: the NFL schedule because of COVID. I get that they're
Speaker 1: doing their best to get all the games in, but
Speaker 1: that can't be easy on the teams that have to
Speaker 1: suddenly change their game dates, especially the ones that don't
Speaker 1: have any positive cases but just have to move because
Speaker 1: other games were moved. My question just how hard is
Speaker 1: this for a team and who has it? Who is
Speaker 1: it hardest on, players, coaches, or somebody else. Thanks for
Speaker 1: your time, Trent Davidson, it's hardest on me. I actually
Speaker 1: have an answer to this. I think it's hardest on
Speaker 1: Trim Tim GEROCKI yeah, the team. Well, it's hard to
Speaker 1: on any travel guy. Because what people don't understand is
Speaker 1: when you move a game. If even if you take
Speaker 1: a game on a let's say you're supposed to play
Speaker 1: at one o'clock on Sunday and your game gets pushed
Speaker 1: to eate something, you now have to get that hotel
Speaker 1: to let you stay. That's a minor thing comparatively plu Us.
Speaker 1: You have to now um have different food service. Plus
Speaker 1: you've got to hope that the airline has that aircraft
Speaker 1: in the window, because usually what they do is they
Speaker 1: give you an aircraft. If you have a window of
Speaker 1: so many hours that the aircraft is yours. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it's a lot. That's and that's minor compared
Speaker 1: to what these teams are being. Oh, it's the team
Speaker 1: that's really catching It is the Chargers. And they didn't
Speaker 1: do anything wrong. Do you see how many games got
Speaker 1: moved on then because of who they played? Miami had
Speaker 1: game move jacksonell a game Movie, Denver, New England none
Speaker 1: of those teams, well in New England has cases. Um,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean Buffalo last night and the Titans.
Speaker 1: The Titans didn't play for the Titans only played four games.
Speaker 1: Everybody else played five because of it. Yeah, but that
Speaker 1: was a legit by that wasn't a well that's another thing.
Speaker 1: So this team, and you can't feel sorry for the Titans.
Speaker 1: I feel sorry more sorry for the Bills. Um. You're
Speaker 1: expecting to have a bye weekend like week eight, and
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden you find out on Friday, like, hey,
Speaker 1: that that week you just had, that was your bye week.
Speaker 1: It's hard to get them. You were probably probably practicing
Speaker 1: if you were allowed to. Um, you know, you can't
Speaker 1: get the value out of the bye week when that happens.
Speaker 1: So but even more so, you you take a game, uh,
Speaker 1: and change it by a couple of weeks. Now, these
Speaker 1: poor travel guys, you know, when they start working on
Speaker 1: on setting up you do when they start saying up
Speaker 1: hotels pretty much ten seconds after the schedule comes out April. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and they get it all lined up well ahead, and
Speaker 1: then they got to fly in and check it out.
Speaker 1: That's right, you know, even though even though there are
Speaker 1: certain hotels that teams go to those they know. But
Speaker 1: you know, as we say, pull the curtain back. But
Speaker 1: it changes with each head coach because each head coach
Speaker 1: has a different criteria what they're looking for. Some coaches
Speaker 1: like the best hotel that's closest to the stadium. Others
Speaker 1: want to be a little further out. Some don't like
Speaker 1: to be in the city, something like to be and
Speaker 1: some of them will go, we'll go and name like
Speaker 1: to stay as close to the hotel as possible in
Speaker 1: the airport right right, stay at the airport, you know,
Speaker 1: no matter how the quality of the hotel. Right, stay
Speaker 1: and stay at the San Francisco airport when you're playing
Speaker 1: in Oakland. Not that I remember that at all, not
Speaker 1: at all. No, So man, and have everybody go to
Speaker 1: bed at eight o'clock because that would be a little
Speaker 1: bit of clock Eastern time. But I digress. See you
Speaker 1: give me all cranked up speaking of old coaches or
Speaker 1: or yes, congratulations to Raheem Morse. He's the interim coach
Speaker 1: for the UH Atlanta Falcons. For him, I wish him
Speaker 1: success all except two games against us, and only because
Speaker 1: he's a good guy and we know him and and
Speaker 1: we don't you know we we we have rivalry, yes
Speaker 1: and uh and if we beat them twice then we're
Speaker 1: gonna be in great shape against them, so no matter
Speaker 1: what they do. So yeah, but that's good. I mean,
Speaker 1: m Raheem gets another crack, even on an interim basis,
Speaker 1: and it'll it'll be interesting to see how that goes. Um, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's cool. But on this back, on this issue of
Speaker 1: moving games, on the flip side of that is, somebody
Speaker 1: pointed out was, yeah, you have to find a hotel
Speaker 1: and very short notice. But there's a lot of hotels
Speaker 1: that are hurting for business right now. That's true. But
Speaker 1: what you have to understand is that a hotel just
Speaker 1: can't take you to take you because there are so
Speaker 1: many requirements and a lot of times the teams are
Speaker 1: pretty much taking that whole hotel. It's not like as
Speaker 1: much as they can uh number of floors, uh, meeting areas. Um.
Speaker 1: The biggest thing too, is on a short note, is
Speaker 1: the food. You know, you think, oh, how hard is it?
Speaker 1: But you gotta order, you know, if you've got all
Speaker 1: of a sudden order, you know, fifty tons of red beef,
Speaker 1: I mean, it makes it all. I think the team's
Speaker 1: travel guys I probably feel the worse for right now
Speaker 1: are the ones whose games got moved up. Like if
Speaker 1: their game was supposed to be it's in week six.
Speaker 1: If it's moved back, you can probably talk to the
Speaker 1: same hotel and can work on it a little four
Speaker 1: weeks from now. Can we still have the same deal.
Speaker 1: But if if to move up four or five weeks
Speaker 1: and you have very little time, that will tell me
Speaker 1: like maybe, like we can't do it. And now you're
Speaker 1: searching around. I don't know how hard it's been on
Speaker 1: any particular team. Well, we haven't seen Tim, so we
Speaker 1: don't know. He's our travel guy. Unfortunately none of our
Speaker 1: games have been moved. No, but yeah he's tier too,
Speaker 1: so we can't go We're not over there. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: is weird. It is weird not seeing people you know
Speaker 1: all this time. Yeah. In fact, I saw a couple
Speaker 1: of people come in for the first time, uh this
Speaker 1: week that haven't been and it was kind of weird
Speaker 1: seeing them. You know. Sometimes you see people in Tier two,
Speaker 1: like by the downstairs, yes, where it almost overlaps, and
Speaker 1: you go, yeah, yeah, over there. I'll just say, you know,
Speaker 1: there's a there's a um. There are stanchions to keep
Speaker 1: it that you can't cross, but there is a table
Speaker 1: that everybody uses that If I need to get something
Speaker 1: to a tier tuper person, you text them and you
Speaker 1: put it on the table. Yeah, you go, you go
Speaker 1: by there. You see all these little notes for different
Speaker 1: people to to grab. You know we need is we
Speaker 1: need to have some dumb waiters installed. Most people don't
Speaker 1: know what a dumb waiter is. It's not someone who's
Speaker 1: not the brightest ball, but the Christmas tree. A dumb
Speaker 1: waiter is a shaft where you have it. It's like
Speaker 1: a little elevators and food and stuff up and down
Speaker 1: in a multi building back in the turn of the
Speaker 1: century in your castle. I do remember, I don't think
Speaker 1: dumb waiters are You don't see him many of them anymore.
Speaker 1: I'm a little surprised. Well, I don't know if you've
Speaker 1: gone out to eat, I've seen something, but that's a
Speaker 1: whole other story. Yeah, hey, that guy's bring us for
Speaker 1: food and not wearing a mask. Yeah, what's he's a
Speaker 1: dumb waiter. All right, that's the last question, Jeff, that's good.
Speaker 1: That was a good question though. That's a good question. Yeah, hopefully, hopefully. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, we didn't even mention. It's hard on the
Speaker 1: players and coaches too. It's very hard because it changes
Speaker 1: your whole game plan, it changes your it changes your training.
Speaker 1: Teams love to be on the same schedule as much
Speaker 1: as possible. If a coach could have his way, every
Speaker 1: game would be one o'clock on Sunday and every every
Speaker 1: week's schedule would be exactly the same. That's what they want. Well,
Speaker 1: if you look at Buffalo and Tennessee, they played on Tuesday.
Speaker 1: Now they gotta play on Sunday. Okay, so it doesn't
Speaker 1: sound like it's a big turnaround, but it's similar. It's
Speaker 1: similar like Thursday. Right, Well, we all know how that plays.
Speaker 1: It does, and it's hard on everybody. It's it's everybody
Speaker 1: just likes to know what the week is going to
Speaker 1: be like, and you get into that habit and you know,
Speaker 1: it's interesting enough that you walk in this building and
Speaker 1: you can see a schedule if you if you have
Speaker 1: a TV, you can flip it over to a channel
Speaker 1: and it shows you the schedule, and everybody just likes
Speaker 1: that and say, you know, it's Monday, this is what
Speaker 1: we're gonna do. It's Tuesday. This is and um but
Speaker 1: it is so you know, you just gotta you know,
Speaker 1: everything changes a lot. Yeah, I mean it, it is
Speaker 1: a I'm just hoping that it it corrals a little
Speaker 1: bit too. Um. Well, the real test is going to
Speaker 1: be when a team they have to they can't play
Speaker 1: a game because of COVID for a team that's already passed,
Speaker 1: it's by week because then there's no want to move it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well they they they're there. You know, there is that
Speaker 1: the conversation they do have, h you know, they hoping
Speaker 1: they don't have to, but they could have a Week
Speaker 1: eight team. I think it's gonna end up happening. They
Speaker 1: don't want to, you think it will. Yeah, only five
Speaker 1: weeks in Jeff and there's been like ten games moved. Yeah,
Speaker 1: why is it going to get better. Well, that's true,
Speaker 1: so true again once you get past the team, it's
Speaker 1: if green Bay has a problem now and by the way,
Speaker 1: Wisconsin is a massive hot spot right now, the city
Speaker 1: of green Bay one point or something. I was reading that.
Speaker 1: I was like, holy smokes. So if green Bay has
Speaker 1: to have a game moved, they're already passed there by.
Speaker 1: So what do you do. The only thing to do
Speaker 1: is put on the end, right. You cannot play two
Speaker 1: games in a week. You can't, no, you know, I
Speaker 1: mean there's not even a question because it would really
Speaker 1: be three games in a week because if you've had
Speaker 1: to put them on Sunday and Thursday, then they still
Speaker 1: another game the next Sunday. Yeah, and then you got
Speaker 1: to take in the health factor. You've got to take
Speaker 1: in all of that. Yeah, that is uh. I mean,
Speaker 1: I guess the only way that would be to get
Speaker 1: ultra creative and be like, Okay, they played a Thursday game,
Speaker 1: We'll move their next Sunday game to Tuesday and then
Speaker 1: move the next game, you know, to like space it
Speaker 1: out as as possible. But that would be really hard. Well,
Speaker 1: and the other thing too, is dead it. It certainly
Speaker 1: hurts when you move those games like that. Uh, it
Speaker 1: hurts TV ratings, It hurts the dollar because, uh, like
Speaker 1: last night or Tuesday, you had two baseball games and yeah,
Speaker 1: but those baseball games are getting terrible ratings. Really yeah,
Speaker 1: that's because no one knows where they're at. Well that's
Speaker 1: they move around. You never know where they're being played.
Speaker 1: But all right, I didn't realize that. Yeah, they're really
Speaker 1: getting bad ratings, which I'm not happy to say, because
Speaker 1: I was reading. You know, it's funny. I was reading
Speaker 1: an article about sports being down, and a lot of
Speaker 1: it is because they believe it's because it's a little
Speaker 1: year and peboard looking around trying to figure out what's
Speaker 1: going on next. So but you know, it is all right, Jeff,
Speaker 1: you've done well. We really know. We almost nailed an
Speaker 1: hour or three minutes. That's good. Yes, we will be
Speaker 1: back with the guest next week. Yes. In fact, I
Speaker 1: already have somebody I've talked to, so I think we
Speaker 1: got a really good shot. All right, very good. You
Speaker 1: want to see who it is? Are you want? You're
Speaker 1: just in case, you know, because things change even you
Speaker 1: know why, you know, I think thank you since you
Speaker 1: didn't Thanks for listening.